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Since452
10-05-2022, 09:03 PM
Tonight is all the proof you needed. Pony up and get these imposters out OUR club. We need a proper clear out not just the guys on loan. If you want to show us you mean business pay them off. Scraping about the English lower leagues for a manager to sort this lot out? You've got one hell of a job to do Mr Gordon.
CB Hibs 68
10-05-2022, 09:10 PM
Tonight is all the proof you needed. Pony up and get these imposters out OUR club. We need a proper clear out not just the guys on loan. If you want to show us you mean business pay them off. Scraping about the English lower leagues for a manager to sort this lot out? You've got one hell of a job to do Mr Gordon.
Yup but he is responsible for this omni shambles that is Hibs .Don’t imagine he has got a donkey up never mind a Pony Up.Hibs are a total shambles right now and when Ron sees the S T sales the colour will drain from his face.
chippy
10-05-2022, 09:25 PM
I think Ron will be soon offloading Hibs, He’s out his depth . Totally underestimated the task. Made 3 managerial blunders, 1 CEO and recruitment chief blunder . Doubt he can or wants to recover , He’ll sell us up pretty soon I think
Hibees1973
10-05-2022, 09:26 PM
Sadly, I honestly feel RG does understand the anger in our support.
How will he. He is a big bucks American owner, with no connection with the city and the club. He watches the occasional game, likes sound-bites and imposes his own pet projects on the club.
Sooner he goes the better.
Think we should forget about a new manager. It's a new owner we desperately need.
HendoDelivered
10-05-2022, 09:28 PM
I think Ron will be soon offloading Hibs, He’s out his depth . Totally underestimated the task. Made 3 managerial blunders, 1 CEO and recruitment chief blunder . Doubt he can or wants to recover , He’ll sell us up pretty soon I think
Hope so
GreenCastle
10-05-2022, 09:28 PM
I still don't think Ron is the issue.
Ben and the other staff are the real issue.
Ron is just trusting people below him and they are failing him.
Get some decent well respected staff in below him and the club improves.
They got rid of a load of staff and hired new people who don't seem to understand the club values.
Logie Green
10-05-2022, 09:28 PM
Yup but he is responsible for this omni shambles that is Hibs .Don’t imagine he has got a donkey up never mind a Pony Up.Hibs are a total shambles right now and when Ron sees the S T sales the colour will drain from his face.
The comparison with ST sales at the same point last year was possibly a factor in Maloney being sacked.
At the AGM the night after the last game at Dens Park the aim of the board was to have 12,500 ST holders. Given the poor football, people getting out of the habit of going and the cost of living shambles on the horizon it just goes to show how deluded RG and chums are.
The way things have been going on and off the park leads me to believe we’re going down a very rocky road with these clueless people in charge.
Paul1642
10-05-2022, 09:30 PM
Feel like this is very knee jerk. It wasn’t so long ago we had our highest finish in over a decade and a few cup finals + decent European performance.
Things have went rapidly downhill but I think a poor decision to Sack Ross followed by another poor decision to appoint Maloney does not mean Gordon is bad for us.
Let’s see where we go from here. I feel like we’re going to invest heavily on field this summer.
JamesHFC
10-05-2022, 09:30 PM
I think Ron will be soon offloading Hibs, He’s out his depth . Totally underestimated the task. Made 3 managerial blunders, 1 CEO and recruitment chief blunder . Doubt he can or wants to recover , He’ll sell us up pretty soon I think
I have no doubt that he wants the club to be successful but as you have said, he’s out of his depth.
He needs more ‘football people’ in key positions. Kensell is a commercial manager, shouldn’t be anywhere near the footballing side of things. His son as head of recruitment is the biggest problem though and that’s clear for everyone to see.
He’s got the wrong people in the wrong places.
truehibernian
10-05-2022, 09:33 PM
His pursuit of excellence has quickly produced a team excellent at being sh*** !
Pretty Boy
10-05-2022, 09:38 PM
I still don't think Ron is the issue.
Ben and the other staff are the realissue.
Ron is just trusting people below him and they are failing him.
Get some decent well respected staff in below him and the club improves.
It’s on Gordon to make that change though, it’s his baby.
He brought Kensell in, between them they dispensed with the role once held by Graeme Mathie and placed a lot more responsibility at the door of the recruitment team, the manager and the CEO and it’s been a total ****ing disaster.
I have no issue with trying new things if there is an admission of failure when they haven’t worked. Whatever successes there have been elsewhere in the business, the only bit most fans care about is the one that can win or lose 3 points on a Saturday and that is failing miserably. Time to make the changes, be that personnel, structure or both.
The current situation is untenable, only Gordon has the power to change it.
Nicho87
10-05-2022, 09:44 PM
More likely new contracts announced tomorrow to get the feel good factor back
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Whoever made these decisions on the board should be gone just as quick as the players
Jim44
10-05-2022, 09:44 PM
RG is well-intentioned but clueless with it. I think and hope he cuts his losses sooner rather than later.
Chorley Hibee
10-05-2022, 09:45 PM
More likely new contracts announced tomorrow to get the feel good factor back
Newell
JDH
Campbell
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Whoever made these decisions on the board should be gone just as quick as the players
Don't give them any ideas!
OstKurve Hibs
10-05-2022, 09:48 PM
Good to see that the transfer committee is working well.....
truehibernian
10-05-2022, 09:52 PM
More likely new contracts announced tomorrow to get the feel good factor back
Newell
JDH
Campbell
Extensions
Whoever made these decisions on the board should be gone just as quick as the players
The Josh Campbell one seriously defies logic. Incredible work by his agent, but what a really really poor footballer at this level. Not even a glimmer of hope he can improve (in my opinion).
The other two need to be told that a pitch has two halves and your allowed to look forward, pass forward, and venture into the other half - the one where you have to score goals. They are ‘cowardly’ players in the sense they take no responsibility and 80/90% of the time take a safe, square pass option - I hate midfielders like that and unfortunately we’ve had three managers who’ve let them away with it and don’t demand they drive forward.
SteveHFC
10-05-2022, 09:55 PM
More likely new contracts announced tomorrow to get the feel good factor back
Newell
JDH
Campbell
Extensions
Whoever made these decisions on the board should be gone just as quick as the players
Is it possible to pay the rest of these contracts off and let them go?
CL0762
10-05-2022, 09:56 PM
I still don't think Ron is the issue.
Ben and the other staff are the real issue.
Ron is just trusting people below him and they are failing him.
Get some decent well respected staff in below him and the club improves.
They got rid of a load of staff and hired new people who don't seem to understand the club values.
The last sentence was exactly why I asked the question I did at the presser with him. And the response was basically ‘those we got rid of weren’t professional enough’.
Certainly seems to have worked out then eh.
Keyser Sauzee
10-05-2022, 09:56 PM
Is it possible to pay the rest of these contracts off and let them go?
It is but it’s incredibly expensive
Coco Bryce
10-05-2022, 09:58 PM
The Josh Campbell one seriously defies logic. Incredible work by his agent, but what a really really poor footballer at this level. Not even a glimmer of hope he can improve (in my opinion).
The other two need to be told that a pitch has two halves and your allowed to look forward, pass forward, and venture into the other half - the one where you have to score goals. They are ‘cowardly’ players in the sense they take no responsibility and 80/90% of the time take a safe, square pass option - I hate midfielders like that and unfortunately we’ve had three managers who’ve let them away with it and don’t demand they drive forward.
You can laugh. His agent will soon be looking for improved terms on his contract due to having so many 1st team appearances 😂
truehibernian
10-05-2022, 09:59 PM
Is it possible to pay the rest of these contracts off and let them go?
Much better to transfer list them or get their agents earning their commissions 😊 I’d have all three told to find new clubs in summer if they can.
GreenCastle
10-05-2022, 10:00 PM
The last sentence was exactly why I asked the question I did at the presser with him. And the response was basically ‘those we got rid of weren’t professional enough’.
Certainly seems to have worked out then eh.
I've been told some staff were comfortable but that doesn't always mean bad at their job.
Ben has been ruthless with quite a few staff members.
If Ben stays he needs to concentrate on similar stuff he did at Norwich.
Like Budge did at Hearts just bring in a few members of staff who can sort the football and recruitment side and it will get easier for him.
FitbaFolkKen
10-05-2022, 10:05 PM
Kensell’s silence speaks volumes, club is spiralling and he is incredibly quiet. Go back to pre-Xmas and he was never out the news.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go.
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Unseen work
10-05-2022, 10:11 PM
Even with the players we have we should still be beating that Dundee team.
Nicho87
10-05-2022, 10:17 PM
Even with the players we have we should still be beating that Dundee team.
Hmmm we’ve been fairly Consistant in not beating them this season other than a 1-0 win which was an own goal
So quite a bold statement, sadly
Scotty Leither
10-05-2022, 10:17 PM
Was either Gordon at the match tonight?
Biggie
10-05-2022, 10:31 PM
Even with the players we have we should still be beating that Dundee team.
Not so sure mate....this is a team devoid of any heart, with the exception of stevenson and porteous.
There's nothing there....no presence up front, no steel/creativity in midfield....the other boys we brought in are dreadful. Bushiri, **** me....Henderson?!...was he signed because his brother was decent ?
Scott scored tonight, woohhoo.......another to get rid ASAP.
Dundee having a woeful season, yet pump us....its so hibs.
I could greet.
Kensell’s silence speaks volumes, club is spiralling and he is incredibly quiet. Go back to pre-Xmas and he was never out the news.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go.
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I’ve mentioned previously it’s crazy that he hasn’t been in the press talking about season tickets or our search for manager or even the sacking of the manager. He has been missing in action since maloney was sacked
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heid the baw
10-05-2022, 10:57 PM
Season ticket renewals will be a real awakening for the owner. The amount of people who have season tickets but stay away is significant. Covid restrictions limited recreation/leisure spending and many people had a bit more spare cash because of this. Supporting the team financially through lockdown was something that many of us opted to do.
It's a new world now and money is tight for many. If we had 4 guaranteed European games we would be throwing our hard earned at renewals but instead we have uncertainty and tonight's showing.
I think Gordon has no idea what he's got into. His best option would be to steer a steady course with a Mcinnes type appointment, decent CEO, head of recruitment who knows the Scottish game ect. I fear however he is doing things his way and it won't end well
AdidasHibernian
10-05-2022, 11:25 PM
As other have eluded too in here, Kensell's silence speaks volumes. He's been as quiet as a mouse for months, but before the quite period he was never out the limelight being upfront and happy to Express his feelings and actions.
Kendall is out his depth and for me is one of the main problems.
As for the squad...what can you actually say? Shambles from front to back.
Without Boyle's goals we would probably be relegated.
Said on match post earlier I feel more deflated right now than I did when we got relegated genuinely..we are embarrassing from top to bottom right now.
Do I have faith in Gordon?..very little, but for now hes the man who can call the shots and get this situation back on track with the fans pulling in the same direction providing he gets the right man in the hot seat and a team that actually wants to play for this football club.
Over to you Ron
No pressure
SlickShoes
10-05-2022, 11:27 PM
What are you expecting him to have changed since sacking maloney?
We need this season just to end, nothing can be done to rectify the situation right now and we all know it.
NAE NOOKIE
10-05-2022, 11:31 PM
The bottom line at any club is on pitch performance and results. Its not difficult to like Ron Gordon, he genuinely seems to feel for the club and there has never been any indication that he want's anything less than the best for it ..... but as they say 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions' and progressively Ron's good intentions seem to have taken the club on a downward spiral with regard to the only place it really matters, on the pitch.
The upshot is going to be a massive drop in season ticket uptake which is going to make fixing our problems even more problematical. The only way to arrest that before next season is for the club to appoint a manager that will enthuse the fans and to sign at least ... at least ... 4 decent players the fans know about and can be reasonably sure have the ability to significantly improve the team without ever having seen them in a Hibs shirt.
That is going to take a significant amount of money to achieve, but what is the alternative, trust to luck with the new manager and a load of cheap but unknown signings and hope we have a far better season next year that will win back the missing fans for 23/24? That is a hell of a risk and if it doesn't work what then? A club with even less money to spend, no returning fans and an even worse downward spiral leading to no chance of a trophy and maybe even relegation.
Page one chapter one in the book of football club ownership is that no matter how many managers you sack or backroom staff you empty on the back of poor results eventually the buck stops with you, Mr Gordon had better start learning that lesson quick smart, because if he doesn't the boos ringing around the near empty stands at Easter Road in the months to come wont be aimed at the manager or the players, they will be aimed at him.
What was that expression he used? ............ oh yes, "pony up"
Smartie
10-05-2022, 11:37 PM
What are you expecting him to have changed since sacking maloney?
We need this season just to end, nothing can be done to rectify the situation right now and we all know it.
Yeah, I feel that the current problems have their roots in stuff that was done some time ago - 2 transfer windows, sacking Jack Ross, appointing Maloney doling out the new contracts earlier this season.
It’s all led us to here and the problems we have right now aren’t so much as a result of anything we’ve done recently.
The sacking of Maloney was a step in the right direction, an appointment of a new manager will hopefully be another, then bringing in a decent number of much better players is what we need more than anything else.
sunshinejim
10-05-2022, 11:37 PM
Who Ron appoints next and the budget given, will I surmise, determine Ron's thinking of our club. I've looked at Appleton's record of management and have concluded he's the one that could lead us out of the mess that we are in. In saying that, I am also willing to back the board's choice if not Appleton and someone else that has impressed the board instead. What we have to do though as supporters is to back the club in buying season tickets. its our club after all and it would help the new manager in financial and vocal support. Get behind the club when we are suffering as we have done many many times in the past. GGTTH
Iain G
10-05-2022, 11:44 PM
Tonight is all the proof you needed. Pony up and get these imposters out OUR club. We need a proper clear out not just the guys on loan. If you want to show us you mean business pay them off. Scraping about the English lower leagues for a manager to sort this lot out? You've got one hell of a job to do Mr Gordon.
Mr Gordon? How yanmish of you!
sunshinejim
11-05-2022, 12:08 AM
Mr Gordon? How yanmish of you!
:faf:
Way too many maroon cardigan brogue wearing dwellers on here for my liking. All inventing ever out there narratives in which to spread negativity about our club. Its weirdo behaviour and as such can only be from the yams that are obsessed with us and our club. Mental.
Onion
11-05-2022, 12:25 AM
Feel like this is very knee jerk. It wasn’t so long ago we had our highest finish in over a decade and a few cup finals + decent European performance.
Things have went rapidly downhill but I think a poor decision to Sack Ross followed by another poor decision to appoint Maloney does not mean Gordon is bad for us.
Let’s see where we go from here. I feel like we’re going to invest heavily on field this summer.
Even the most successful business men make poor decisions. No shame in that. The essential thing is not to follow that up with another. Sacking Ross was understandable, but recruiting Maloney was horrendous. Poor player recruitment and terrible decisions around managers throws serious doubt over Ron Gordon's leadership of our club. ST sales is the only barometer he needs, if he want to know how fans feel about what's going on.
huggie1875
11-05-2022, 01:29 AM
He should try and get someone in with a decent record at his last club like four semi finals two finals and a third place finish all in in a couple of seasons….. but where would we ever find that kind of manager 🤔
Hibernia&Alba
11-05-2022, 01:30 AM
We need less of the American salesmanship and more positive action now. Gordon has talked a big game (Scotland's Atletico Madrid etc) but that patter looks insane just now. The fact is things are getting continually worse and it needs turning around quickly. The season has been shambolic and Hibs fans are going to start to drift away. It's his responsibility to ensure the people running the club day to day are delivering progress; in fact we are dropping like a stone. He can't keep sacking managers every few months, thus the next appointment is crucial. We need somebody who can sort out this mess, which will be difficult to rectify. Pressure on Gordon and the board now to make the right appointment and back the next manager.
I still don't think Ron is the issue.
Ben and the other staff are the real issue.
Ron is just trusting people below him and they are failing him.
Get some decent well respected staff in below him and the club improves.
They got rid of a load of staff and hired new people who don't seem to understand the club values.
Who appointed Ben? Who appointed Ian Gordon as Head of Recruitment? Who decided to get rid of a load of staff who understood the club and hire new people who don't? Ron might be trusting people below him who are failing him, but he appointed them. Ron is THE issue.
HoboHarry
11-05-2022, 02:25 AM
Petrie in......
Haymaker
11-05-2022, 02:52 AM
Petrie in......
This. :agree:
HUTCHYHIBBY
11-05-2022, 03:25 AM
:faf:
Way too many maroon cardigan brogue wearing dwellers on here for my liking. All inventing ever out there narratives in which to spread negativity about our club. Its weirdo behaviour and as such can only be from the yams that are obsessed with us and our club. Mental.
You seem quite obsessed with them to be fair.
Brizo
11-05-2022, 05:38 AM
Gordon's expectations were apparent from the outset when he met with HSA reps at the stadium and told us it was time for us to "pony up" and pay for additional infrastructure at East Mains. It was greeted with what can only be described as polite silence. He totally misread the room and has continued to misread the room through ticket pricing to not correctly clarifying his son's role, to the Sportemon fiasco. For someone who made his millions in communications Gordon's communications with the support have been extremely poor.
His CEO Kensell is not only anonymous but his business judgement must be in serious doubt as he left Norwich under a cloud after he signed up Asian betting firm, BK8 as sponsors who use soft porn marketing. The Norwich fans revolted and he left shortly after. How he got the job at Hibs after that disaster baffles me.
We were Gordons third choice Scottish football club and thats apparent to me. I dont think he gets us, has no real affinity for us, he wanted to buy a Scottish football club, tried to buy others and ended up with us. I doubt he'll be here for long.
Gordon and Kensell are driven by economics and they must know that an uninspiring managerial appointment will do nothing to halt the ST decline. Unfortunately I dont have any faith in them making the right appointment.
Coco Bryce
11-05-2022, 05:58 AM
Hibs just now are like one of they P&O Ferries where all the staff have been sacked/left/punted and completely replaced from top to bottom with people who really don't have a clue what they are doing.
We are a just a rudderless ship floating about the Scottish Premiership.
tonyrougier123
11-05-2022, 06:27 AM
In his interview Ron suggested the squad just needs a few tweaks an injection of quality,I hope after recent performances he is reviewing that statement.
I can’t believe we don’t have one football minded person at the club telling him how poor it actually is.
Recruitment has been poor for a while now,before Ron Gordon even I’d suggest,and possibly needs to find its feet the new set up.
But we need a real player spotter in and around Easter road as we don’t actually seem to be signing players with anything more than a good highlight reel that lasts 2mins.
A game of football is 90mins! We need players who can play a whole match as a team player fighting for the club and progressing themselves as people as well as growing with the club.
Too many hiding in this team.we now need a leader of football at the club,and the owner or his son or Ben kensall don’t fit the bill.
Own the club run the club work for the club by all means,but get a real football minded manager to run the team and recruit players ffs or we are in for a real dull maybe even sore couple of seasons.
GreenCastle
11-05-2022, 06:46 AM
Who appointed Ben? Who appointed Ian Gordon as Head of Recruitment? Who decided to get rid of a load of staff who understood the club and hire new people who don't? Ron might be trusting people below him who are failing him, but he appointed them. Ron is THE issue.
No - Ron appointed Ben and his son.
The other staff that was Ben having a clearout.
Of course Ron is top of the tree but day to day it’s Ben and he reports back to Ron.
James70
11-05-2022, 09:19 AM
What Ron Gordon has to ask himself is Ian Gordon really the best person for the job?
SlickShoes
11-05-2022, 09:22 AM
What Ron Gordon has to ask himself is Ian Gordon really the best person for the job?
Manager? I'd love to see it, this place would be insane.
Jones28
11-05-2022, 09:33 AM
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Way too many maroon cardigan brogue wearing dwellers on here for my liking. All inventing ever out there narratives in which to spread negativity about our club. Its weirdo behaviour and as such can only be from the yams that are obsessed with us and our club. Mental.
Are you going to be obnoxious on every thread?
James70
11-05-2022, 11:45 AM
Manager? I'd love to see it, this place would be insane.
No, not manager, the job he is in at present and which he doesn't appear to be doing very well at.
leith lynx
11-05-2022, 02:37 PM
Hibs just now are like one of they P&O Ferries where all the staff have been sacked/left/punted and completely replaced from top to bottom with people who really don't have a clue what they are doing.
We are a just a rudderless ship floating about the Scottish Premiership.
Very good 👍
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