Scotty Allan

[keep the faith]

In a bizarre season, the disappearance of Scott Allan is sometimes forgotten. It's actually really sad that no-one even questions where he is nowadays. 5 subs were put on ahead of him regularly when we couldn't buy a pass or a shot. Crazy.

Looked like he was away in Jan, then Maloney comes out to say he was hopeful we could keep him. He stays then even the sub appearances stop.

I would argue his turn and pass against St Johnstone and his 1st half performance against Dundee United were prob the two best individual moments of the season. Surely he was worth more time on the pitch compared to the personel we were playing with??
There is clearly more to it, but personally I hope we give him the chance to have a last moment in a Hibs Jersey.
One of the most gifted players I have ever seen and deserves a send off from those of us who enjoyed watching him.

[hibeejeebies]

In a bizarre season, the disappearance of Scott Allan is sometimes forgotten. It's actually really sad that no-one even questions where he is nowadays. 5 subs were put on ahead of him regularly when we couldn't buy a pass or a shot. Crazy.

Looked like he was away in Jan, then Maloney comes out to say he was hopeful we could keep him. He stays then even the sub appearances stop.

I would argue his turn and pass against St Johnstone and his 1st half performance against Dundee United were prob the two best individual moments of the season. Surely he was worth more time on the pitch compared to the personel we were playing with??
There is clearly more to it, but personally I hope we give him the chance to have a last moment in a Hibs Jersey.
One of the most gifted players I have ever seen and deserves a send off from those of us who enjoyed watching him.

Agree mate, great servant and deserves a warm send off on Sunday 👍🏻

[FilipinoHibs]

Great in the championship and the half season on loan. Been disappointing in his last spell. Obviously his health issues played a large part. Telling that 3 managers including SDG have not played him.

[CL0762]

Great in the championship and the half season on loan. Been disappointing in his last spell. Obviously his health issues played a large part. Telling that 3 managers including SDG have not played him.

I don’t understand why he’s even been in the squad.

Surely a 10-15 minute cameo when we can make 5 subs is doable for Scott, especially when we’ve been crying out for something different.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Great in the championship and the half season on loan. Been disappointing in his last spell. Obviously his health issues played a large part. Telling that 3 managers including SDG have not played him.

He was very good before his health issue in the 19/20 season.

[B.H.F.C]

Great in the championship and the half season on loan. Been disappointing in his last spell. Obviously his health issues played a large part. Telling that 3 managers including SDG have not played him.

He was really good in his first season back of his current spell before the season got stopped early, double figures for goals and assists by that point.

Even this season, he probably has more assists than the rest of our midfielders.

[Shrekko]

There is clearly more to it


I'm surprised people are still trotting this out - there is clearly nothing more to it except 3 managers have been happy enough to have him on the bench but rarely feel it is the right move to put him on. Whatever your opinion on Ross, Maloney and Gray as managers, they know a heck of a lot more than any of us.

He has been a good player for us at times and I like him but jeezo the amount of people who've been claiming he's been our potential saviour this season is nuts. A few good moments early in the season but also a few of his cameos where he offered zero.

[GreenCastle]

I hope we can hear more this week about his situation.

I really hope the club do the decent thing and give him some minutes on Sunday and he can get a good send off.

Both Allan and Doidge haven’t featured since the Motherwell cup win.

[keep the faith]

I'm surprised people are still trotting this out - there is clearly nothing more to it except 3 managers have been happy enough to have him on the bench but rarely feel it is the right move to put him on. Whatever your opinion on Ross, Maloney and Gray as managers, they know a heck of a lot more than any of us.

He has been a good player for us at times and I like him but jeezo the amount of people who've been claiming he's been our potential saviour this season is nuts. A few good moments early in the season but also a few of his cameos where he offered zero.

Pretty certain there is more to it. Did Maloney not say at a Q&A that he couldn't really talk about it?

You think our midfielders offer more than him? More chance of JDH or Campbell influencing the game? You think Henderson is better and more rounded at no 10??

Like I said, be great to see him again and even hear what's been up.

[Mainstandman]

I'd like both him and McGregor to get some time on Sunday. McGregor up front!

[scottish_sleepy]

Great in the championship and the half season on loan. Been disappointing in his last spell. Obviously his health issues played a large part. Telling that 3 managers including SDG have not played him.

True although you could add that its three of the most defensive minded managers we've had.
Playing a terrible Aberdeen team at home in a pointless game and still going with three defensive midfielders and one up front is maybe one of the reasons he's not even getting cameo roles.
We set up not to lose rather than trying to win games.
That's the main reason we're all sitting bored out our skulls on match days now.

[MWHIBBIES]

He was very good before his health issue in the 19/20 season.

Yep

[Since452]

Hopefully gets a good send off at the weekend. Wish him well.

[RIP]

Head coaches at Hibs lead every training session with the first team squad. Every time they or a player are interviewed pre-match, they focus on how well the lads have trained.

The strong suggestion being that the best performers in training are the first picks in the matchday team.

Given Scotty’s diabetes condition and heart risks I would expect that the criteria Hibs use for selection will place him at a disadvantage.

[Shrekko]

Pretty certain there is more to it. Did Maloney not say at a Q&A that he couldn't really talk about it?

You think our midfielders offer more than him? More chance of JDH or Campbell influencing the game? You think Henderson is better and more rounded at no 10??

Like I said, be great to see him again and even hear what's been up.

Maloney had him on the bench - if a player is being frozen out for any mystery reason they won't sit on the bench.

Pointless comparing him to JDH or Campbell as it's not like for like but I'd rather Henderson played as much as possible as he may (or may not) be the answer in the seasons ahead.

I do hope Scott gets a wee game next week though.

[WeeRussell]

Maloney had him on the bench - if a player is being frozen out for any mystery reason they won't sit on the bench.

Pointless comparing him to JDH or Campbell as it's not like for like but I'd rather Henderson played as much as possible as he may (or may not) be the answer in the seasons ahead.

I do hope Scott gets a wee game next week though.

I took “more to it” simply meaning that his health issues have a lot to answer for.

[Carheenlea]

For a team so bereft of craft and guile in the final third it’s been frustrating to not have utilised Scott Allan more than we did this season.

Despite his fitness/health concerns, he’s still made some valued contribution and as another poster highlighted above, some of his assists have been the season highlights. The rest of the midfield should feel a bit ashamed at that fact.

[munchar]

True although you could add that its three of the most defensive minded managers we've had.
Playing a terrible Aberdeen team at home in a pointless game and still going with three defensive midfielders and one up front is maybe one of the reasons he's not even getting cameo roles.
We set up not to lose rather than trying to win games.
That's the main reason we're all sitting bored out our skulls on match days now.

The frustration on Saturday was similar. Financially there’s places to play for which have financial rewards. Has Gray been told to see the season out playing the same way? There’s absolutely no shape to our midfield. Players dwelling on the ball as there’s no options. It’s like a team of strangers at times.

[LaMotta]

In a bizarre season, the disappearance of Scott Allan is sometimes forgotten. It's actually really sad that no-one even questions where he is nowadays. 5 subs were put on ahead of him regularly when we couldn't buy a pass or a shot. Crazy.

Looked like he was away in Jan, then Maloney comes out to say he was hopeful we could keep him. He stays then even the sub appearances stop.

I would argue his turn and pass against St Johnstone and his 1st half performance against Dundee United were prob the two best individual moments of the season. Surely he was worth more time on the pitch compared to the personel we were playing with??
There is clearly more to it, but personally I hope we give him the chance to have a last moment in a Hibs Jersey.
One of the most gifted players I have ever seen and deserves a send off from those of us who enjoyed watching him.

100% spot on. I trotted out the stat a few months ago when Nisbet got injured that Allan was our most proflific direct contributor to goals (6) this season left in the squad.

A few months later and its still Allan who has the most goal contributions, despite him getting barely any minutes on the pitch. If he'd helped us get one extra goal pre split we could have been fighting for a Euro spot this season.

People also need to stop saying previous managers didn't play him - they did.

[LaMotta]

For a team so bereft of craft and guile in the final third it’s been frustrating to not have utilised Scott Allan more than we did this season.

Despite his fitness/health concerns, he’s still made some valued contribution and as another poster highlighted above, some of his assists have been the season highlights. The rest of the midfield should feel a bit ashamed at that fact.

Exactly - I fully believe that if we'd used him more then we would be in a better position right now.

[LaMotta]

Head coaches at Hibs lead every training session with the first team squad. Every time they or a player are interviewed pre-match, they focus on how well the lads have trained.

The strong suggestion being that the best performers in training are the first picks in the matchday team.

Given Scotty’s diabetes condition and heart risks I would expect that the criteria Hibs use for selection will place him at a disadvantage.

That would be a terrible thing if true.

Some of the best players ever have been dreadful trainers - Romario, Lineker, Ronaldinho , Michael Owen. Its far more important to look at what a player does on matchday than how well they train.

[Mainstandman]

Head coaches at Hibs lead every training session with the first team squad. Every time they or a player are interviewed pre-match, they focus on how well the lads have trained.

The strong suggestion being that the best performers in training are the first picks in the matchday team.

Given Scotty’s diabetes condition and heart risks I would expect that the criteria Hibs use for selection will place him at a disadvantage.


That would be a terrible thing if true.

Some of the best players ever have been dreadful trainers - Romario, Lineker, Ronaldinho , Michael Owen. Its far more important to look at what a player does on matchday than how well they train.


I wonder if they are focusing on more aerobic ability then, i do wonder in games when someone is taken off who appears to be playing well is it because their aerobic performance has dropped off as per the tracker. this prob leads to the turgid stuff we get now as not looking at the football contribution so much. I've seen this with other clubs players are taken off as they've gone under the 'running about threshold' even though they are goal threat. Gogic this season was a great example of someone running around too much to the detriment of this impact, perhaps he had to cover ground or get hooked!

I understand that Aguero was not that great in training either.

[GreenCastle]

Looking at the picture of the team training.

No sign of Allan or Doidge it seems ?

[LaMotta]

I wonder if they are focusing on more aerobic ability then, i do wonder in games when someone is taken off who appears to be playing well is it because their aerobic performance has dropped off as per the tracker. this prob leads to the turgid stuff we get now as not looking at the football contribution so much. I've seen this with other clubs players are taken off as they've gone under the 'running about threshold' even though they are goal threat. Gogic this season was a great example of someone running around too much to the detriment of this impact, perhaps he had to cover ground or get hooked!

I understand that Aguero was not that great in training either.

You could be right mate. There are some players who can do very little in a game but you have to persist with them sometimes cause they are capable of a piece of magic out of nothing.

[JohnM1875]

Looking at the picture of the team training.

No sign of Allan or Doidge it seems ?

Allan was in the west upper with Wright on Saturday for the Aberdeen game so I'm guessing he's injured as well.

[The_Exile]

The game hasn't half changed in such a short amount of time. Can you imagine players like Le Tissier and Gazza getting a fair crack at it these days? Seems that regardless of natural talent you have to hit certain metrics in order to even be conisdered. I'm all for moving the game forward but I think there's a wee bit of magic been lost from the game.

I'm sure we will all have stories of pals when we were younger, or even our own kids being told they're too wee to play for X, Y or Z and you see much less talented players playing for good teams because of their strength or height. It's no wonder we struggle internationally when attitudes seem to be purely focussed on atheltic ability rather than technical ability.

[LaMotta]

The game hasn't half changed in such a short amount of time. Can you imagine players like Le Tissier and Gazza getting a fair crack at it these days? Seems that regardless of natural talent you have to hit certain metrics in order to even be conisdered. I'm all for moving the game forward but I think there's a wee bit of magic been lost from the game.

I'm sure we will all have stories of pals when we were younger, or even our own kids being told they're too wee to play for X, Y or Z and you see much less talented players playing for good teams because of their strength or height. It's no wonder we struggle internationally when attitudes seem to be purely focussed on atheltic ability rather than technical ability.

:agree::agree::agree:

[Sioux]

You could be right mate. There are some players who can do very little in a game but you have to persist with them sometimes cause they are capable of a piece of magic out of nothing.

So you want a player on the park who might, just might, play the ball in the right direction only once, but may not do it at all?

How many of those players would you play in a game?

If you're going to persist with them sometimes, what would your 'sometime' moment be?

[LaMotta]

So you want a player on the park who might, just might, play the ball in the right direction only once, but may not do it at all?

How many of those players would you play in a game?

If you're going to persist with them sometimes, what would your 'sometime' moment be?

No that's not even close to what I'm trying to suggest.

What I'm saying is you can have guys like Allan getting reasonable amounts of game time who might not always be brilliant in fact they can have poor games, but they can also help you win a game in a flash. And they will have proved it numerous times ( even this season). Inconsistent but capable of real quality.

Or you can just play consistent players like James Scott or Josh Campbell who run about a lot but unfortunately consistently do nothing of any note.

When do you play someone like Allan ? Probably when you have a bunch of other players incapable of breaking down Cove, St Mirren and St Johnstone at Easter Road and we are desperate for a goal.

[ancient hibee]

The game hasn't half changed in such a short amount of time. Can you imagine players like Le Tissier and Gazza getting a fair crack at it these days? Seems that regardless of natural talent you have to hit certain metrics in order to even be conisdered. I'm all for moving the game forward but I think there's a wee bit of magic been lost from the game.

I'm sure we will all have stories of pals when we were younger, or even our own kids being told they're too wee to play for X, Y or Z and you see much less talented players playing for good teams because of their strength or height. It's no wonder we struggle internationally when attitudes seem to be purely focussed on atheltic ability rather than technical ability.
Yeh. We should ask Laura Muir or young Mccolgan if they’re free.

[SlickShoes]

No that's not even close to what I'm trying to suggest.

What I'm saying is you can have guys like Allan getting reasonable amounts of game time who might not always be brilliant in fact they can have poor games, but they can also help you win a game in a flash. And they will have proved it numerous times ( even this season). Inconsistent but capable of real quality.

Or you can just play consistent players like James Scott or Josh Campbell who run about a lot but unfortunately consistently do nothing of any note.

It's not really one or the other though there is nuance to everything.

For some reason 3 managers now do not think Allan is capable, the health condition he has is extremely serious, and maybe just throwing him out there isn't an option any more.

Unless we hear from Scott that he's been treated badly or unfairly, we can't assume that the fans all see something a bunch of professionals don't. Granted 2 of those are no longer in a job, but it feels like there is something more than just not being the type of player 3 managers like.

[Shrekko]

The game hasn't half changed in such a short amount of time. Can you imagine players like Le Tissier and Gazza getting a fair crack at it these days? Seems that regardless of natural talent you have to hit certain metrics in order to even be conisdered. I'm all for moving the game forward but I think there's a wee bit of magic been lost from the game.

I'm sure we will all have stories of pals when we were younger, or even our own kids being told they're too wee to play for X, Y or Z and you see much less talented players playing for good teams because of their strength or height. It's no wonder we struggle internationally when attitudes seem to be purely focussed on atheltic ability rather than technical ability.

We're not "purely focussed" on athletic ability over skill and you must know that's true?

If a good technical player works as hard as one less talented... or even one that's taller (!) then he'll be just fine.

We seem to be saying that it's ok for skillful players to have glaring deficiencies in their game and not work as hard as others just because they've been born with a talent. Talent without hard work and a spot on attitude is a waste.

If a player like Gazza or Le Tissier didn't make it they would have themselves and nobody else to blame.

[LaMotta]

We're not "purely focussed" on athletic ability over skill and you must know that's true?

If a good technical player works as hard as one less talented... or even one that's taller (!) then he'll be just fine.

We seem to be saying that it's ok for skillful players to have glaring deficiencies in their game and not work as hard as others just because they've been born with a talent. Talent without hard work and a spot on attitude is a waste.

If a player like Gazza or Le Tissier didn't make it they would have themselves and nobody else to blame.

It is ok if they help you win games though.

On the other side whats even less acceptable is saying it's ok for limited players to be playing week in week out just cause they are working hard.

Ideally you get someone with both talent and dedication like John McGinn, but in the absence of that you probably need a balance of the 2 scenarios above.

[LaMotta]

It's not really one or the other though there is nuance to everything.

For some reason 3 managers now do not think Allan is capable, the health condition he has is extremely serious, and maybe just throwing him out there isn't an option any more.

Unless we hear from Scott that he's been treated badly or unfairly, we can't assume that the fans all see something a bunch of professionals don't. Granted 2 of those are no longer in a job, but it feels like there is something more than just not being the type of player 3 managers like.

Yeah I would say there maybe has to be more to it - but the fact he was in the squad on the bench most weeks suggests maybe not. If I had to guess then he maybe threw toys out of pram early doors in Maloney's reign and then that cemented Maloney's belief not to use him.

Also Ross did use Allan regularly, even this season. He certainly liked him more than Maloney.

[Shrekko]

Yeah I would say there maybe has to be more to it - but the fact he was in the squad on the bench most weeks suggests maybe not. If I had to guess then he maybe threw toys out of pram early doors in Maloney's reign and then that cemented Maloney's belief not to use him.

Also Ross did use Allan regularly, even this season. He certainly liked him more than Maloney.

There is a list of managers as long as your arm that haven't played (or started) Scott regularly during his career- that's not a co-incidence.

[LaMotta]

There is a list of managers as long as your arm that haven't played (or started) Scott regularly during his career- that's not a co-incidence.

There isn't though. Maloney was the first at Hibs, and Gray hasn't over the last few weeks. Stubbs, Lennon, Hecky and Ross all used him regularly to very good effect.

Celtic yes - but then he was part of a multi million pound squad. West Brom likewise.

[Shrekko]

There isn't though. Maloney was the first, and Gray hasn't over the last few weeks.

Throughout his whole career?

[LaMotta]

Throughout his whole career?

See my edited post :greengrin

[Shrekko]

See my edited post :greengrin

Hibs are really the only team where he's been anything like a stick on starter. Dundee, Rotherham, Birmingham, MK, Celtic, WBA and Pompey are all places he's been and not really been a regular.

I've enjoyed him at Hibs but I really do think people are romanticising about him a lot particularly this season. I'd have liked to have seen more of him too but don't think he'd have had the influence many are suggesting- i also found it quite hard to watch at times how easily he was being dispossessed and some of those crazy bookings he was getting.

[LaMotta]

Hibs are really the only team where he's been anything like a stick on starter. Dundee, Rotherham, Birmingham, MK, Celtic, WBA and Pompey are all places he's been and not really been a regular.

I've enjoyed him at Hibs but I really do think people are romanticising about him a lot particularly this season. I'd have liked to have seen more of him too but don't think he'd have had the influence many are suggesting- i also found it quite hard to watch at times how easily he was being dispossessed and some of those crazy bookings he was getting.

You are right, there are clearly issues that have been there throughout his career.

I just think we were so bad in an attacking sense from xmas onwards that we really should have used our most creative remaining player (based on statistical evidence this season) a wee bit more.

It wont have done us any harm.

[CL0762]

It's not really one or the other though there is nuance to everything.

For some reason 3 managers now do not think Allan is capable, the health condition he has is extremely serious, and maybe just throwing him out there isn't an option any more.

Unless we hear from Scott that he's been treated badly or unfairly, we can't assume that the fans all see something a bunch of professionals don't. Granted 2 of those are no longer in a job, but it feels like there is something more than just not being the type of player 3 managers like.

I wouldn’t even class it as 3 managers.

Gray just seems to have copied what Ross done, then what Maloney has done.

Despite absolutely neither of them working prior to his appointment as caretaker.

[Billy Whizz]

I wouldn’t even class it as 3 managers.

Gray just seems to have copied what Ross done, then what Maloney has done.

Despite absolutely neither of them working prior to his appointment as caretaker.

I’m pretty sure this is down to a lack of options though

[Ronniekirk]

He is currently injured and then out of contract in the summer So doubt we will see him again with us


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[erin go bragh]

Some players are not great at training but turn it on when it’s match day
Josh Campbell is obviously brilliant at training
A half fit Scott Allan would improve our midfield at the moment

[wookie70]

I've never been his greatest fan and even when he was at his best he lost the ball incredibly often and was really poor in working back when he made an error. That being said it has amazed me how he hasn't seen some more game time. Players like Mueller and Henderson and pretty poor off the ball too so giving Scotty the last 15 minutes when we are losing or need a goal doesn't seem much of a risk. It has been said in a number of threads though that the last few managers were just very cautious and that will be one of the reasons for lack of game time as he is a player short off the ball. I get the feeling there is something at play that we don't know about and his time is up at the club and possibly at a decent level of football.

[hibbyfraelibby]

I suspect Scotty may hang his boots up next Sunday...

[B.H.F.C]

I've never been his greatest fan and even when he was at his best he lost the ball incredibly often and was really poor in working back when he made an error. That being said it has amazed me how he hasn't seen some more game time. Players like Mueller and Henderson and pretty poor off the ball too so giving Scotty the last 15 minutes when we are losing or need a goal doesn't seem much of a risk. It has been said in a number of threads though that the last few managers were just very cautious and that will be one of the reasons for lack of game time as he is a player short off the ball. I get the feeling there is something at play that we don't know about and his time is up at the club and possibly at a decent level of football.

I’ve never though Allan was the player short that was spoken about when out of possession. Not that I’m saying he was the hardest worker in the team or anything like that, but there seemed to be a thought that the team would fall to bits if he was to play and I don’t think that’s ever really been the case. Even if you look at the one small run in the team he had this season we were playing well (Dundee Utd at home aside) and he was playing a big part.

I do agree that there is something more to his lack of minutes, I just don’t know why we continued to strip him and sit him on the bench every week though.

[shetlandhibee]

I’ve never though Allan was the player short that was spoken about when out of possession. Not that I’m saying he was the hardest worker in the team or anything like that, but there seemed to be a thought that the team would fall to bits if he was to play and I don’t think that’s ever really been the case. Even if you look at the one small run in the team he had this season we were playing well (Dundee Utd at home aside) and he was playing a big part.

I do agree that there is something more to his lack of minutes, I just don’t know why we continued to strip him and sit him on the bench every week though. i know even scotty allan with his leg in plaster could have created more chances n in ten fifteen mins here and there than a few of our midfielders have for the whole season! Bizzare? like you said why strip him then never use him? its not like we were playing really well and winning lots of games so nobody deserved to be dropped??

[munchar]

i know even scotty allan with his leg in plaster could have created more chances n in ten fifteen mins here and there than a few of our midfielders have for the whole season! Bizzare? like you said why strip him then never use him? its not like we were playing really well and winning lots of games so nobody deserved to be dropped??

I don’t get this doesn’t work hard argument regarding Scotty. A creative player like him, & he creates chances EVERY game, you let him play & have defensive midfielders behind him. It’s about finding a balance in the team. Surely even the fans who don’t rate him have to agree they’d rather have a creative player who doesn’t defend that well, over a defensive player who doesn’t create? Fans pay to see talent like him. There’s no way he can be getting zero minutes unless there’s a health issue, but why be on the bench then?

[Tambo]

Would be nice to see him start Sunday as I think he deserves it after it looked like he may never play football again.

Would make the Hibs fans happy I think after a rough season.

[HIBS NUTS]

You could be right mate. There are some players who can do very little in a game but you have to persist with them sometimes cause they are capable of a piece of magic out of nothing.
Scott Allen has been a brilliant player for hibs and very enjoyable to watch.
However it became quite obvious early on this season that for some reason he could not seem to cope with the rigours of the game anymore, he was slow and ponderous on the ball, he could still produce the odd moments of magic , but overall he was a hinderance in a bang average midfield.

[LaMotta]

Scott Allen has been a brilliant player for hibs and very enjoyable to watch.
However it became quite obvious early on this season that for some reason he could not seem to cope with the rigours of the game anymore, he was slow and ponderous on the ball, he could still produce the odd moments of magic , but overall he was a hinderance in a bang average midfield.

This is simply untrue.

[GreenCastle]

He is currently injured and then out of contract in the summer So doubt we will see him again with us


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Has this been confirmed any where about an injury?

I’m 100% convinced he’s gone this summer and he will know that.

Shame we won’t get to have a final farewell cameo.

[Scotty Leither]

So you want a player on the park who might, just might, play the ball in the right direction only once, but may not do it at all?

How many of those players would you play in a game?

If you're going to persist with them sometimes, what would your 'sometime' moment be?

We've had two permanent managers and one caretaker coach/manager thus far this season, and all of their approach to games seemed to be uber-cautious.

It's maybe a reflection of the game in general as quite a few teams in this league seem to set up fairly negatively too.

I would however have given Allan more minutes off the bench than he's had, but we'll never know now. I'd certainly had given him the last twenty minutes against the cardigan wearers at Hampden.

It's all conjecture now, but we certainly need some players with craft and guile signed in the summer though; any more workmanlike, steady-eddie types won't cut it, I'm afraid.

[Ronniekirk]

Has this been confirmed any where about an injury?

I’m 100% convinced he’s gone this summer and he will know that.

Shame we won’t get to have a final farewell cameo.

David Gray said so in his pre match video fir Dundee Game


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[JamesHFC]

I just came across an article about him and it got me thinking. It’s a real shame how things have turned out. Only 30 years old and should have still been one of our star players. Genuinely one of the best footballers I’ve seen at Hibs, he was a pure joy to watch play. I really hope we can get him on for the final minute or so of last game of the season even if injured to give him a decent farewell.

We have been incredibly unlucky with injuries at this football club over the last few years particularly.

[Keith_M]

The frustration on Saturday was similar. Financially there’s places to play for which have financial rewards. Has Gray been told to see the season out playing the same way? ...



It's weird because he seems to have adopted the same approach

[500miles]

It's weird because he seems to have adopted the same approach

It's not that weird. Our squad is very limited by injuries in forward areas , including guys playing through injuries either on the bench or - like hanlon did - until they pack in.

[LaMotta]

If ever there was a show-reel to confirm why even a half fit past his best Scott Allan should have got more minutes since xmas - then tonight at Dens was it.

Euan Henderson wading through treacle, Campbell continually giving the ball away and taking a shot that ended up at Gayfield, Newell clipping balls into the invisible man in the corner, Jasper falling over every couple of minutes and crossing the ball into the river Tay......

[Carheenlea]

Scott Allan doesn’t deserve to be stuck on a pitch surrounded by these Hibs players. Better off out the way of it all.

[LaMotta]

Scott Allan doesn’t deserve to be stuck on a pitch surrounded by these Hibs players. Better off out the way of it all.

True.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Scott Allan doesn’t deserve to be stuck on a pitch surrounded by these Hibs players. Better off out the way of it all.

:agree:

[munchar]

It's not that weird. Our squad is very limited by injuries in forward areas , including guys playing through injuries either on the bench or - like hanlon did - until they pack in.

Well play guys who aren’t injured then! What’s the point having squad/young players if they never get a chance to show if they’re good enough. Ideal time is in a meaningless game surely?