Refugees and the home office deportation

[Moulin Yarns]

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/protesters-take-to-edinburghs-nicholson-street-to-stop-home-office-deportation


Well done Edinburgh.

[Ozyhibby]

https://news.stv.tv/east-central/protesters-take-to-edinburghs-nicholson-street-to-stop-home-office-deportation


Well done Edinburgh.

We’ll done indeed. [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]


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[Glory Lurker]

What does "no peace for Police Scotland" mean? Is that rent a mob?

[Moulin Yarns]

What does "no peace for Police Scotland" mean? Is that rent a mob?

I saw something on twitter, I think it's the group 'refuweegie'

[hibsbollah]

Outside my aunties house, she was busy taking photos. Great stuff Southsiders :aok:

[Ozyhibby]

Becomes a bit of an issue for the union if the Home Office doesn’t have effective jurisdiction in Scotland.[emoji106]


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[heretoday]

What's the background to this story? My newspaper focusses on the emotions as usual but no explanation as to why the police turned up and what the charges are.

[speedy_gonzales]

What's the background to this story? My newspaper focusses on the emotions as usual but no explanation as to why the police turned up and what the charges are.
It'll either be random checks on the legal status of restaurant employees, or, more likely a sting after a tip-off/intel.
The news this morning said the Home Office "enforcement" staff left without taking anybody away.
Unsure if that means the were no "illegals" or there are but they didn't want to start a riot.

[ronaldo7]

It'll either be random checks on the legal status of restaurant employees, or, more likely a sting after a tip-off/intel.
The news this morning said the Home Office "enforcement" staff left without taking anybody away.
Unsure if that means the were no "illegals" or there are but they didn't want to start a riot.

Two people placed on bail according to the news.

[Moulin Yarns]

It'll either be random checks on the legal status of restaurant employees, or, more likely a sting after a tip-off/intel.
The news this morning said the Home Office "enforcement" staff left without taking anybody away.
Unsure if that means the were no "illegals" or there are but they didn't want to start a riot.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/edinburgh-immigration-raid-home-office-brands-action-of-people-power-protesters-unacceptable-3683298

Looks like the home office team acted on intel and served notice to a couple of staff at the restaurant.

[PaulSmith]

The Police must be politically neutral and act without fear nor favour.

Therefore if the Home Office or anyone else had the legal authority to detain, arrest or serve any notice whilst conducting their business then Police Scotland should be duty bound to uphold the law.

Without knowing the individual circumstances of the case it’s difficult for to comment on the rights and wrongs but fundamentally a black market of labour (with no tax paid, insurance or workers protection) cannot be allowed to thrive and I’ve no concerns with removing people who have no legal right to work in the UK.


Cue a barrage of comments using the words “racist” “gammon” “brexit” for even daring to say what a significant number of citizens think.

[Moulin Yarns]

The Police must be politically neutral and act without fear nor favour.

Therefore if the Home Office or anyone else had the legal authority to detain, arrest or serve any notice whilst conducting their business then Police Scotland should be duty bound to uphold the law.

Without knowing the individual circumstances of the case it’s difficult for to comment on the rights and wrongs but fundamentally a black market of labour (with no tax paid, insurance or workers protection) cannot be allowed to thrive and I’ve no concerns with removing people who have no legal right to work in the UK.


Cue a barrage of comments using the words “racist” “gammon” “brexit” for even daring to say what a significant number of citizens think.

As far as I know, from the reports I've seen, the police only turned up to 'keep the peace' and not assist the home office bigots. 😉

[beensaidbefore]

When I was in oz, we were restricted to how long we could stay, an Irish guy we knew overstayed his visa but nobody knew where to find him. His sister was due to get married to an Aussie, so to encourage him to do the right thing and leave the country they advised his sister she wouldn't be able to get citizenship or whatever whist her brother was still illegally in the country.

Needless to say he left promptly and everyone got on with their lives. Not sure what would stop us adopting something similar if we have people who have genuinely no right to be here.

[heretoday]

The Police must be politically neutral and act without fear nor favour.

Therefore if the Home Office or anyone else had the legal authority to detain, arrest or serve any notice whilst conducting their business then Police Scotland should be duty bound to uphold the law.

Without knowing the individual circumstances of the case it’s difficult for to comment on the rights and wrongs but fundamentally a black market of labour (with no tax paid, insurance or workers protection) cannot be allowed to thrive and I’ve no concerns with removing people who have no legal right to work in the UK.


Cue a barrage of comments using the words “racist” “gammon” “brexit” for even daring to say what a significant number of citizens think.

No argument from me on that.

[Jamesie]

The Police must be politically neutral and act without fear nor favour.

Therefore if the Home Office or anyone else had the legal authority to detain, arrest or serve any notice whilst conducting their business then Police Scotland should be duty bound to uphold the law.

Without knowing the individual circumstances of the case it’s difficult for to comment on the rights and wrongs but fundamentally a black market of labour (with no tax paid, insurance or workers protection) cannot be allowed to thrive and I’ve no concerns with removing people who have no legal right to work in the UK.


Cue a barrage of comments using the words “racist” “gammon” “brexit” for even daring to say what a significant number of citizens think.

10/10. Undocumented people, most likely working for less than the minimum wage (if indeed paid at all), and potentially here against their will. Yet people are protesting to maintain this. We live in interesting times.

[Jamesie]

A certain irony in the protestors chanting about the virtues of democracy. Last time I checked, any democratic state tends to respect the rule of law.

[hibsbollah]

A certain irony in the protestors chanting about the virtues of democracy. Last time I checked, any democratic state tends to respect the rule of law.

Are you Alannis Morissette?

[Glory Lurker]

10/10. Undocumented people, most likely working for less than the minimum wage (if indeed paid at all), and potentially here against their will. Yet people are protesting to maintain this. We live in interesting times.

And have a pop at the polis too.

[Hibrandenburg]

A certain irony in the protestors chanting about the virtues of democracy. Last time I checked, any democratic state tends to respect the rule of law.Think you might find you have that back to front, any democratic state should respect the will of the people.

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[Stairway 2 7]

Think you might find you have that back to front, any democratic state should respect the will of the people.

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Not with everything. I'd hate to think what the majority of the masses would want. Hanging, far less immigration, less benefits to those not working I'd bet.

Although that's separate to this case. The shame with these situations it's the poor people who are being exploited that get done and are treated like criminals. The gangs and workplaces should get hammered, but the people are just trying to make a life for themselves

[ronaldo7]

A certain irony in the protestors chanting about the virtues of democracy. Last time I checked, any democratic state tends to respect the rule of law.

Democracy eh. Only when it doesn't suit their agenda, and international law is openly broken in a Limited and specific way. UK Gov.

[Jamesie]

Think you might find you have that back to front, any democratic state should respect the will of the people.

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The will of the people rather than the will of the minority mob of the people.

[hibsbollah]

The will of the people rather than the will of the minority mob of the people.

That’s a very Hegelian take on it Jamesie.

[Hibrandenburg]

The will of the people rather than the will of the minority mob of the people.You mean the will of the people that don't live there over the people that actually do.

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[Moulin Yarns]

The will of the people rather than the will of the minority mob of the people.

How do you know that the will of the people isn't the same as the will of those who turned out to stop the removal of the refugees?

Should we have a referendum every time a refugee is taken into home office custody?

[degenerated]

How do you know that the will of the people isn't the same as the will of those who turned out to stop the removal of the refugees?

Should we have a referendum every time a refugee is taken into home office custody?Be a lengthy process if we have to wait a generation every time

[Stairway 2 7]

There's a few polls and all a wee bit up and down. But in all of them hardly anyone thinks immigration should increase, I'm in the minority of Scots. That's why we shouldn't have the will of the people, as Scotland needs young immigrants

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/poll-reveals-sharp-rise-in-opposition-to-immigration-bwqsxj8tj

A YouGov survey for The Times has found that 45 per cent of interviewees think too many people are entering the UK, an increase of six percentage points on June last year

6% too low, 37% about right, rest don't know

[Moulin Yarns]

Now, I don't know what his background is, but the next Doctor Who was born in Rwanda, but raised in Dunfermline. It is possible that his father, a journalist and a PhD in Theology might have had to flee the country.

I imagine that they were able to come to the UK legally, but not everyone who is persecuted is as fortunate.

[hibby rae]

When I was in oz, we were restricted to how long we could stay, an Irish guy we knew overstayed his visa but nobody knew where to find him. His sister was due to get married to an Aussie, so to encourage him to do the right thing and leave the country they advised his sister she wouldn't be able to get citizenship or whatever whist her brother was still illegally in the country.

Needless to say he left promptly and everyone got on with their lives. Not sure what would stop us adopting something similar if we have people who have genuinely no right to be here.

Well I don't see how you can penalise one person for the crime fo another. Doesn't matter if they are related or not