Jdh

[Steve88]

Move on.

Both him and JN are similar, I rate the latter more

All season, and perhaps even much of the prior season we've lacked any creativity/drive in central midfield and unfortunately it's because these two and/or the dynamics of them don't work together - hence why we've become a 1 dimensional team that plays down the wings

I find both of them far too safe and that in itself - the similarities in their style - is what I think has been stifling our central midfield

Nice guy, but not going to take this club to the next level

[madhatter]

JDH, Newell and Campbell are all pretty much the same when you look at their impact on matches.

Drop deep and play easy 5 yard passes almost all match.

Pointless possession is their speciality.

[GreenArmy1875]

This is part of the problem that Maloney went on about. Squad is poor and needs overhaul. We signed and kept players who are all the same.

[LaMotta]

JDH, Newell and Campbell are all pretty much the same when you look at their impact on matches.

Drop deep and play easy 5 yard passes almost all match.

Pointless possession is their speciality.

Although Campbell is by far the least effective of the three.

Campbell should go out on loan and we should only start with one of JDH or Newell. The other can be a useful squad player.

[truehibernian]

Although Campbell is by far the least effective of the three.

Campbell should go out on loan and we should only start with one of JDH or Newell. The other can be a useful squad player.

I’d happily shift all three and build afresh. Might get a fee for Newell too.

[Scottie]

I’d happily shift all three and build afresh. Might get a fee for Newell too.
:agree: Tom Kite the 3 of them. Offer nothing at all imo.

[LaMotta]

I’d happily shift all three and build afresh. Might get a fee for Newell too.


:agree: Tom Kite the 3 of them. Offer nothing at all imo.

Remember we do need a squad, we can't just get shot of everyone :greengrin

[LunasBoots]

Too many similar players in the squad in the midfield, loaning out a couple maybe a option

[Zambernardi1875]

This is part of the problem that Maloney went on about. Squad is poor and needs overhaul. We signed and kept players who are all the same.

Yip, Ron brings in someone willing to completely change the attitude and standards at the club, get rid of all the ***** and he’s chased out after 1 winter transfer. With no Boyle or maggenis and hardly ever doidge nisbet Porto and the rest.

[Heisenberg]

This is part of the problem that Maloney went on about. Squad is poor and needs overhaul. We signed and kept players who are all the same.

Not sure why he didn’t go for a midfielder in January. Baffling decision.

[LaMotta]

Yip, Ron brings in someone willing to completely change the attitude and standards at the club, get rid of all the ***** and he’s chased out after 1 winter transfer. With no Boyle or maggenis and hardly ever doidge nisbet Porto and the rest.

Maloney chased himself out.

[Not In The Know]

Move on.

Both him and JN are similar, I rate the latter more

All season, and perhaps even much of the prior season we've lacked any creativity/drive in central midfield and unfortunately it's because these two and/or the dynamics of them don't work together - hence why we've become a 1 dimensional team that plays down the wings

I find both of them far too safe and that in itself - the similarities in their style - is what I think has been stifling our central midfield

Nice guy, but not going to take this club to the next level

he is the antithesis of an attacking footballer.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Campbell should go to the Championship on a season loan to a team where he would be a first start and then see if he can consistently deserve the shirt. There might be a player in there.

[Coco Bryce]

Campbell should go to the Championship on a season loan to a team where he would be a first start and then see if he can consistently deserve the shirt. There might be a player in there.

Wouldn't get a game for Edina Hibs.

[A Hi-Bee]

The quality and level of midfield player we need at Hibs is just not at Easter Rd with the possible exception of McGinnes if he ever plays for us again.
Clear them out and bring in the quality we need and start to build a team.

[RIP]

Don’t ya just love all this ‘throw everyone out and bring lots of new players in’ nonsense.

When is the last time we did that and it brought about an improvement?

It’s the era of the XBOX Football Manager fantasists

[A Hi-Bee]

Don’t ya just love all this ‘throw everyone out and bring lots of new players in’ nonsense.

When is the last time we did that and it brought about an improvement?

It’s the era of the XBOX Football Manager fantasists

I would throw out the XBox thingy as well, Hibs need better than what is on the playing staff just now.
Any new manager will struggle to get much out of them, without some real investment.

[Smartie]

Campbell should go to the Championship on a season loan to a team where he would be a first start and then see if he can consistently deserve the shirt. There might be a player in there.

Did he not go to Arbroath a year or two back, and after a decent start struggled a bit to get a game?

I agree we've got too many similar players. Stevenson adds something to the midfield when he plays, then I think there's room for either JDH or Newell, then AN Other. Wouldn't rule out Henderson as the AN Other.

Midfield needs work though, doesn't work as a unit.

You could argue that it worked today. Kept tight enough, didn't give anything away. And then it was a run beyond the strikers from Henderson that led to the goal. I think Gray should be happy that he managed to fashion a win from what he had to work with.

Lots of work needed from middle to front with this squad.

[Rumble de Thump]

Don’t ya just love all this ‘throw everyone out and bring lots of new players in’ nonsense.

When is the last time we did that and it brought about an improvement?

It’s the era of the XBOX Football Manager fantasists

I think the idea is that better players should be brought in. It seems sensible.

[Roxyhibee]

Don’t ya just love all this ‘throw everyone out and bring lots of new players in’ nonsense.

When is the last time we did that and it brought about an improvement?

It’s the era of the XBOX Football Manager fantasists

Generally agree but it worked spectacularly when McLeish took over. That was some transformation in a season or two. From Tosh and Power to Latapy and Sauzee. Mind you, he was given a fair bit of cash..

[JohnM1875]

Thought he was really good first few games but he's not for me. I get players have roles and jobs to do in a midfield, but right now he doesn't do anything at all well.

Can't see us being able to offload him, but wouldn't be disappointed if we did.

Seems like a lovely boy, but unfortunately not good enough.

[Smartie]

Thought he was really good first few games but he's not for me. I get players have roles and jobs to do in a midfield, but right now he doesn't do anything at all well.

Can't see us being able to offload him, but wouldn't be disappointed if we did.

Seems like a lovely boy, but unfortunately not good enough.

He looked really good beside Newell at the start of the season - with Magennis ahead of them.

Since then, he did well at the Easter Road derby beside Newell and had the good game when he scored a couple.

Other than that, it's been pretty forgettable from him since about the start of October.

Not sure whether we try to recreate what we had at the start of the season or make more cutting changes.

It hasn't worked for much of the season but I don't think I can go as far as to say I don't rate him as I think he's got something.

[bod]

Campbell should go to the Championship on a season loan to a team where he would be a first start and then see if he can consistently deserve the shirt. There might be a player in there.

I think we’ll be the biggest club he plays for.
Done nothing this season to convince me otherwise

[JohnM1875]

He looked really good beside Newell at the start of the season - with Magennis ahead of them.

Since then, he did well at the Easter Road derby beside Newell and had the good game when he scored a couple.

Other than that, it's been pretty forgettable from him since about the start of October.

Not sure whether we try to recreate what we had at the start of the season or make more cutting changes.

It hasn't worked for much of the season but I don't think I can go as far as to say I don't rate him as I think he's got something.

He did. Him Newell and Magennis looked brilliant. But that's for what eight or so games before it all got broken up with injuries/covid.

I want him to do well, just as I want any player who plays for Hibs to do well, whether it's JDH, Wright, Scott, Campbell anyone! I just don't see how he can go from the level of performances he's putting in to being an integral part of the first team.

[Mikey_1875]

He is our worst performer who is a regular starter imo. The goals vs County possibly got the critics off his back for a while but he doesn’t add anything to our team. Not a good tackler, passer or runner. Invisible.

[LaMotta]

As so often happens with new players after a few games when we are winning, some people completely overestimated JDH's performances at the start of his Hibs career, OTT claims of him being a "baller" etc. Then as the team's performances dipped, some people started to unfairly claim he was terrible.

Barring his low point ( error at home to St Mirren) and his high point ( 2 worldies against Ross County) I think he's largely been fine, putting in solid if unspectacular performances most weeks.

He is the type of guy, a bit like Stevenson, that will rarely let the team down - If he has decent players around him he can be a fairly important part of a good team IMO. If he doesn't have quality around them then he isn't good enough on his own to make things happen.

[The Modfather]

He is our worst performer who is a regular starter imo. The goals vs County possibly got the critics off his back for a while but he doesn’t add anything to our team. Not a good tackler, passer or runner. Invisible.

Yet, as I posted on the Newell thread. The stats show JDH has more goals, averages more tackles per game, averages more points per game and as a team our goals scored minus goals conceded is better under JDH than Newell. Maybe it’s JDH who is a actually more important than Newell.

I’d look to upgrade all 3 of JDH, Newell & Campbell, with a different blend of midfielders, and have all 3 as back up. Wouldn’t lose any sleep if any of them moved on though.

[dmc1875]

Gogic is better. Got a really harsh time of it but he was consistently part of teams that were winning last season even coming up with goals. St Mirren also missed him big time today.

[Helensburghhibs]

Campbell should go to the Championship on a season loan to a team where he would be a first start and then see if he can consistently deserve the shirt. There might be a player in there.

He didn't exactly set the Heather alight at Edinburgh City so doubt he would do it in the championship

[Mikey_1875]

Yet, as I posted on the Newell thread. The stats show JDH has more goals, averages more tackles per game, averages more points per game and as a team our goals scored minus goals conceded is better under JDH than Newell. Maybe it’s JDH who is a actually more important than Newell.

I’d look to upgrade all 3 of JDH, Newell & Campbell, with a different blend of midfielders, and have all 3 as back up. Wouldn’t lose any sleep if any of them moved on though.

You could counter that by saying Newell has more assists and interceptions. I agree with your last point though that all three could be up for the chop. To my eye Newell affects games a lot more than Doyle Hayes and could keep his place with better players around him but appreciate its not an opinion shared by all.

[LaMotta]

Gogic is better. Got a really harsh time of it but he was consistently part of teams that were winning last season even coming up with goals. St Mirren also missed him big time today.

I think Gogic was underappreciated by some - but JDH has twice as many goals this season as Gogic did last :greengrin

[dmc1875]

I think Gogic was underappreciated by some - but JDH has twice as many goals this season as Gogic did last :greengrin

He does that is a fair point! He’s scored for St Mirren as well I think this season?

[LaMotta]

He does that is a fair point! He’s scored for St Mirren as well I think this season?

Haha he does - a debut goal for them I think....

[The Modfather]

You could counter that by saying Newell has more assists and interceptions. I agree with your last point though that all three could be up for the chop. To my eye Newell affects games a lot more than Doyle Hayes and could keep his place with better players around him but appreciate its not an opinion shared by all.

I think the argument is like two bald men fighting over a comb and neither JDH or Newel particularly influence games. I just feel Newell has better “PR” than the other two. When actually Newell averages the lowest points per game out of him, JDH & Campbell. Newell looks the most cultured out of the 3 when on form but arguably influences games the least out of the 3 and the points per game averages seems to back that up.

[RIP]

I think the idea is that better players should be brought in. It seems sensible.

It’s always been sensible. It’s just that in 60 years of supporting Hibs the number of seasons this has actually happened are not easy to recall.

[andrew70]

Henderson should play slightly deeper alongside JDH or Newell. Henderson been our best player last two games. He’s a terrific footballer and one who is a game changer. The rest, as already discussed, are far too similar.

[Tyler Durden]

I think the argument is like two bald men fighting over a comb and neither JDH or Newel particularly influence games. I just feel Newell has better “PR” than the other two. When actually Newell averages the lowest points per game out of him, JDH & Campbell. Newell looks the most cultured out of the 3 when on form but arguably influences games the least out of the 3 and the points per game averages seems to back that up.

Your points per game is not really an effective measure.

Newell is streets ahead of JDH even during this disaster of a season, when basically they’ve all been poor.

I would absolve them to some extent as I think the post Xmas stuff comes down to an awful set up by Maloney where he didn’t actually seem to demand much from the 2 centre midfielders.

I’d loan out Campbell, keep the others for the squad and hope to sign a new number 6 or 8 who comes in as one of our top players immediately. Break the bank basically.

[The Modfather]

Your points per game is not really an effective measure.

Newell is streets ahead of JDH even during this disaster of a season, when basically they’ve all been poor.

I would absolve them to some extent as I think the post Xmas stuff comes down to an awful set up by Maloney where he didn’t actually seem to demand much from the 2 centre midfielders.

I’d loan out Campbell, keep the others for the squad and hope to sign a new number 6 or 8 who comes in as one of our top players immediately. Break the bank basically.

Out of curiosity what’s not effective about PPG? Like all stats it doesn’t tell the full story and not to be used in isolation. However is it not quite common for it to be used. Usually when showing the importance of a player to a team and the difference between PPG with and without said player for example.

[MWHIBBIES]

Henderson should play slightly deeper alongside JDH or Newell. Henderson been our best player last two games. He’s a terrific footballer and one who is a game changer. The rest, as already discussed, are far too similar.

Henderson is not good deeper. His talent is breaking forward and getting into goalscoring positions. He isn't better than jdh or Newell in central midfield

[andrew70]

Henderson is not good deeper. His talent is breaking forward and getting into goalscoring positions. He isn't better than jdh or Newell in central midfield

He can easily play as an 8. Can play passes neither JDH or Newell can play. We need someone in there who can get us up the park and Henderson does that. Would also open up a slot for Jasper in behind the front two thus ensuring more creativity in the team.

You are 100% underestimating Hendo. He’s done it before and hopefully the reins can be relinquished in the final four games. Just to give us a bit more excitement if nothing else.

[angus hibby]

Gogic is better. Got a really harsh time of it but he was consistently part of teams that were winning last season even coming up with goals. St Mirren also missed him big time today.

Would have JDH over Gogic every day of the week. With regard to them missing Gogic today, they’ve hardly been setting the world on fire when he’s been in the team.

[JohnM1875]

Would have JDH over Gogic every day of the week. With regard to them missing Gogic today, they’ve hardly been setting the world on fire when he’s been in the team.

Why? For the area they play on the pitch Gogic is quicker, a better tackler and better in the air. JDH is a better passer, I'll give you that, but when 90% of those are back to Hanlon or another defender what's he offering?

[angus hibby]

Why? For the area they play on the pitch Gogic is quicker, a better tackler and better in the air. JDH is a better passer, I'll give you that, but when 90% of those are back to Hanlon or another defender what's he offering?

He’s a better player. 90% of JDH’s passing is not to a defender and he’s made many more forward passes than Gogic ever did. Jack Ross and Shaun Maloney agree with me.

[judas]

Although Campbell is by far the least effective of the three.

Campbell should go out on loan and we should only start with one of JDH or Newell. The other can be a useful squad player.

This.

Josh needs to go somewhere that’s not Hibs. Even if it’s a loan.

He’s nowhere near good enough.

[Tyler Durden]

Out of curiosity what’s not effective about PPG? Like all stats it doesn’t tell the full story and not to be used in isolation. However is it not quite common for it to be used. Usually when showing the importance of a player to a team and the difference between PPG with and without said player for example.

Yes it’s effective if for example you looked at PPG with say Nisbet in the team compared to PPG when he doesn’t play.

Not so much comparing PPG of 2 team mates. The following would present issues….

* What’s the sample size for each player?
* How many games did they both start together?
* What was the opposition?

Not really a valuable means of comparing these 2 players IMO.

[JohnM1875]

He’s a better player. 90% of JDH’s passing is not to a defender and he’s made many more forward passes than Gogic ever did. Jack Ross and Shaun Maloney agree with me.

Aye, who are they managing right now?

90% might have been an exaggeration 7 out of 10 of his passes are sideways or backwards.

[bigwheel]

He’s a better player. 90% of JDH’s passing is not to a defender and he’s made many more forward passes than Gogic ever did. Jack Ross and Shaun Maloney agree with me.

Yes. Much better player …agreed

[J-C]

We have 2 deep sitting midfielders in JDH and Newell, both sit just in front of the defence, then there's a massive gap to the forwards and attack minded players , Their problem is when one sits deep so does the other, instead of one going further ahead to link up. If you watch top players, they always work together in the middle, 1 stays and the other goes forward and vice versa, our 2 both sit and do very little to influence the game, Newell when he wants is very good at going forward but only when he can be arsed and that's not very often.

[Borderhibbie76]

Yip, Ron brings in someone willing to completely change the attitude and standards at the club, get rid of all the ***** and he’s chased out after 1 winter transfer. With no Boyle or maggenis and hardly ever doidge nisbet Porto and the rest.

Maloney chased himself with the dreadful results and his stubbornness to persist with a style we don't have the players for

[inglisavhibs]

Wouldn't get a game for Edina Hibs.
Quite a personal attack on a young player in his first full season who has played in every game we’ve won this year, a couple as a substitute. He’s also been capped at under 21 level. Playing in midfield this season has been tough for any player given the lack of good forwards on our books but even more so for a youngster. All our players who are kept on next season will have to up their game and Josh is no different. A bit support from the terraces would do no harm.

[MWHIBBIES]

Quite a personal attack on a young player in his first full season who has played in every game we’ve won this year, a couple as a substitute. He’s also been capped at under 21 level. Playing in midfield this season has been tough for any player given the lack of good forwards on our books but even more so for a youngster. All our players who are kept on next season will have to up their game and Josh is no different. A bit support from the terraces would do no harm.

He really is dreadful, though. Had the easiest pass to put muller through and puts it out for a goal kick. And an absolute golden chance missed. Not even or target from 12 yards with goalie to beat.

I fully support him when he's playing, but he has been awful.

[bigwheel]

He really is dreadful, though. Had the easiest pass to put muller through and puts it out for a goal kick. And an absolute golden chance missed. Not even or target from 12 yards with goalie to beat.

I fully support him when he's playing, but he has been awful.

He’s not been dreadful at all ..does work often unseen - off the ball he has been one of our best midfielders. Sure that pass was poor , but name me a player that hasn’t done that . Good player , will have more good games than poor ..

[hibee1875]

He’s not been dreadful at all ..does work often unseen - off the ball he has been one of our best midfielders. Sure that pass was poor , but name me a player that hasn’t done that . Good player , will have more good games than poor ..

He has been dreadful. Hides from passes, loses possession. But it’s fine because he runs about a lot?

He’s not good enough technically to play further forward, or in that number 8 role in the middle of the park. So what is his role? Defensive mid? Would you play him as your only holding midfielder? No chance.

Not good enough and should never have been given that contract after one good game at hampden.

[Brightside]

Don’t ya just love all this ‘throw everyone out and bring lots of new players in’ nonsense.

When is the last time we did that and it brought about an improvement?

It’s the era of the XBOX Football Manager fantasists

Yep a ridiculous thread.

[loanheadhibby]

:agree: Tom Kite the 3 of them. Offer nothing at all imo.
I tend to agree but am amazed at the number of fans that rate Joe Newell.
I watch all the games and feel he contributes very little.
We definitely need better than these three come August but it's easier said than done I suppose.

[hibee1875]

I tend to agree but am amazed at the number of fans that rate Joe Newell.
I watch all the games and feel he contributes very little.
We definitely need better than these three come August but it's easier said than done I suppose.

For me Newell offers more than Campbell and JDH but still not enough. He’ll take the ball in tight situations, can beat a man, attempts passes that are more than 5 yards.

However his assist and goal contributions are awful. Even his secondary assists are non existent

[Springbank]

One way of looking at it, we are lucky to be sitting as high as 7th in the league, when our midfield looks to be the 11th best in the league (12th if Charlie Adam was fit more often for Dundee)

We offer no threat from there

[JimBHibees]

Personally would happily sell Newell does it one game in 5 slow loses the ball slot and gives away numerous silly fouls.

[Tully]

There will be x amount of decent players available on frees who would massively improve hibs, get the correct manager and they could transform the team bringing in the correct players who being available for free would mean we could pay a bit more in wages, it can be done and doesn't need to be costly if done correctly

[Bronson]

I think theres a cracking player in JDH but we just haven’t seen it enough. Started the season on fire and his performance away at dundee utd was as good a midfield performance as I’ve seen since john mcginn.

Lets not forget he’s only what, 22? The right manager will make him into a top player.

I rate newell as well and would keep both even if they don’t start every week.

[MWHIBBIES]

He’s not been dreadful at all ..does work often unseen - off the ball he has been one of our best midfielders. Sure that pass was poor , but name me a player that hasn’t done that . Good player , will have more good games than poor ..

He has been dreadful. Very very poor. Newell is levels above in all aspects.

[inglisavhibs]

He really is dreadful, though. Had the easiest pass to put muller through and puts it out for a goal kick. And an absolute golden chance missed. Not even or target from 12 yards with goalie to beat.

I fully support him when he's playing, but he has been awful.
He made a 50 yard run and took his shot first time on the run and missed narrowly. How many Hibs midfielders have you seen this season making a forward run like this and having an effort on goal? Only around 33% of one on ones in any football are converted but you fire ahead and criticise. The passing on a very difficult windy day was generally poor by most players on both sides but again you pick up on one from Campbell. If he has been so awful, why does he keep getting picked?

[hibee1875]

If he has been so awful, why does he keep getting picked?

Because we didn’t bring in any CMs in January and let halberg and gogic go

[ahibby]

This.

Josh needs to go somewhere that’s not Hibs. Even if it’s a loan.

He’s nowhere near good enough.

I agree but with one reservation and that is all players seem to have regressed this year. If that is the case then that needs to be addressed so we dont get rid of what should be kept.

[truehibernian]

Look how deep Scott and Melkerson had to come yesterday to get any kind of possession, and look at the fact it was Harry Clarke that (fortunately) was the most forward player in the lead up to our goal - all season our midfield have been slow to engage the opposition defence, rather, they sit deep and play very safe conservative football. That's a coaching issue for me, and neither Ross or Maloney drove the message home that the midfield have to press higher up the pitch to give our attackers a chance.

Someone like Newell, a player who in his career has played wide and in a 10, seems to prefer not getting involved in attacks and driving forward. He could learn from the way SJM plays and getting beyond his marker and beating the first man and taking the game forward. He plays far too square, and JDH is happy to play the same way, neither taking real responsibility in midfield. JDH is the more natural sitting midfielder. Newell has talent, he's simply not brave enough or confident enough to use that skill to drive the midfield forward. Takes too many safe options.

Unless a coach comes in and gets Newell to play more to his ability and strengths, I'm afraid neither player will be missed if they were to leave Hibs.

Huge season for both players next season - additions in midfield and attack are a must. Campbell just won't make it at Hibs, sorry, he won't. His game is error strewn and despite watching him closely I don't see one characteristic that gives me hope for development in his game. He's Championship level at best.

[MWHIBBIES]

He made a 50 yard run and took his shot first time on the run and missed narrowly. How many Hibs midfielders have you seen this season making a forward run like this and having an effort on goal? Only around 33% of one on ones in any football are converted but you fire ahead and criticise. The passing on a very difficult windy day was generally poor by most players on both sides but again you pick up on one from Campbell. If he has been so awful, why does he keep getting picked?

A good player doesn't take it first time.

He gets picked because we have 3 centre mids and play 2 of them

[marinello59]

Can we do this without the petty bickering and personal insults?
Thanks.

[Hibiza]

JDH, Newell and Campbell are all pretty much the same when you look at their impact on matches.

Drop deep and play easy 5 yard passes almost all match.

Pointless possession is their speciality.

:top marks , Madhatter

[MWHIBBIES]

:top marks , Madhatter

Thats totally untrue, you know that right?

Doyle Hayes and Newell are similar sure, but Campbell is nothing like them. He goes 30 minutes without touching the ball sometimes. He isn't sitting deep and moving it around at all, he never has.

[Tambo]

Can we just all agree that all 3 are not good enough if Hibs want a serious challenge to 3rd every season.

[Callum_62]

Can we just all agree that all 3 are not good enough if Hibs want a serious challenge to 3rd every season.Nope, we cannot

Newell is easily good enough

JDH I'm not convinced by but he has something

Campbell at the moment isn't good enough

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[MWHIBBIES]

Can we just all agree that all 3 are not good enough if Hibs want a serious challenge to 3rd every season.

I agree. Except the one who played every week the last time we finished 3rd. He is good enough.

[Tambo]

Joe Newell is good for keeping the ball moving 5 yards. He does not drive with the ball and look for forward passes as much as he should.

He don't score and don't assist, we should be looking at better quality next season.

[The Modfather]

I agree. Except the one who played every week the last time we finished 3rd. He is good enough.

Gogic?

[Since90+2]

Thats totally untrue, you know that right?

Doyle Hayes and Newell are similar sure, but Campbell is nothing like them. He goes 30 minutes without touching the ball sometimes. He isn't sitting deep and moving it around at all, he never has.

Completely agree.

JDH especially and Campbell are nothing alike whatsoever. JDH basically plays in front of the defence and tries to play the same role McGeough did (without be close to his level). Campbell plays more advanced, infact I've ever seen him play infront of the back 4.

I'm actually surprised that anyone who's watched Hibs this season would compare those 2. Chalk and cheese.

FWIW Newell is the best of the 3 of them, and in Campbell's case he's miles better.

[Unseen work]

Personally I think he’s a very good young player, think people often forget his age.

But he all of a sudden looks worse when none of the team creates anything and we have no one further forward creating.

If we had some quality attacking players and play with a bit of tempo and intensity we’ll see a much better player.

[JimBHibees]

Personally I think he’s a very good young player, think people often forget his age.

But he all of a sudden looks worse when none of the team creates anything and we have no one further forward creating.

If we had some quality attacking players and play with a bit of tempo and intensity we’ll see a much better player.

Agree think he is very good and will get better

[AgentDaleCooper]

I think all of the younger players need our judgement suspended until they have a competent coach helping to bring them on. Campbell is a case in point - looked lime a prospect under Ross, suddenly became 'not good enough' when maloney came in.

[offshorehibby]

I am not saying he's good, bad or indifferent but when JDH first started playing for Hibs he was playing well and a few on here reckoned we had found a player. What's went wrong?
Just a thought but he was out for a while with Covid, could it be he's still not got his full fitness back but with our injuries we are having to play him.

[LaMotta]

I am not saying he's good, bad or indifferent but when JDH first started playing for Hibs he was playing well and a few on here reckoned we had found a player. What's went wrong?
Just a thought but he was out for a while with Covid, could it be he's still not got his full fitness back but with our injuries we are having to play him.

Cos he was overhyped early doors. He's gone from that to being under appreciated IMO.

[flash]

There's a decent player in there.

Dundee United wanted him, we wanted him and St Mirren wanted him to stay.

He looked really good in his first few games and it might just be he needs the right balance of players around him.

[Brightside]

There's a decent player in there.

Dundee United wanted him, we wanted him and St Mirren wanted him to stay.

He looked really good in his first few games and it might just be he needs the right balance of players around him.

I think the discussion moved on to Campbell. I think most fans think JDH is a decent enough player for our level. And before anyone says it Yes I’d love to replace him with better BUT we won’t be high up the list of those moving on.

[J-C]

JDH and Newell both sit too deep so they're always miles away from the front attacking players. We need another attacking midfielder, which was Magennis but he cant be relied upon, Allan seems so far down the line I wonder why he's actually on the bench. There is no guile or drive come from midfield and that has to be the new managers priority.

[LaMotta]

I think the discussion moved on to Campbell. I think most fans think JDH is a decent enough player for our level. And before anyone says it Yes I’d love to replace him with better BUT we won’t be high up the list of those moving on.

5 out of the 6 previous posts to Flash were about JDH, so think the conversation is squarely back on JDH.:greengrin

[Brightside]

5 out of the 6 previous posts to Flash were about JDH, so think the conversation is squarely back on JDH.:greengrin

Good. 😂

[Hibiza]

One thing they do all have in common though. : They are simply not good enough for us .

[loanheadhibby]

I agree. Except the one who played every week the last time we finished 3rd. He is good enough.
Nowhere near third this season.
Newell the best of the three but still not good enough.
Hopefully the new manager will clear out the dead wood.
Charlie Nicholas pretty much spot on with his recent comments.

[MWHIBBIES]

Nowhere near third this season.
Newell the best of the three but still not good enough.
Hopefully the new manager will clear out the dead wood.
Charlie Nicholas pretty much spot on with his recent comments.

Says it all if you listen to Charlie Nicholas tbh. What in the hell does he know about Hibs?

[Brightside]

Says it all if you listen to Charlie Nicholas tbh. What in the hell does he know about Hibs?

Zero. Zilch. Nada.