Bring back Stubbs

[Key West]

Inherited a mess when he became manager first time around, with a fit squad and a few additions he could turn us around quickly, knows the club and the league.

[SlickShoes]

Inherited a mess when he became manager first time around, with a fit squad and a few additions he could turn us around quickly, knows the club and the league.

I would like to just keep Alan Stubbs as a Hibs hero and leave it at that.

He has not managed for a long time and never succeeded at a level above the Scottish Championship.

[tonyrougier123]

He should’ve stayed when he put together a very decent side.
I actually thought he might’ve added something as a DOF behind the scenes to help find the right type of players with the attitudes and application he managed to get in the door.

[Vini1875]

Other than winning the Cup with us, what else has Alan Stubbs got on his CV?

[GloryGlory]

I would like to just keep Alan Stubbs as a Hibs hero and leave it at that.

He has not managed for a long time and never succeeded at a level above the Scottish Championship.

Agree. Never managed us in the top league.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

Left at the first opportunity and subsequently failed everywhere.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

If Stubbs was managing at League One or Two down South and doing ok , then he would be a viable candidate. His time as a Manager , for any club, has gone I think.

[green with envy]

Inherited a mess when he became manager first time around, with a fit squad and a few additions he could turn us around quickly, knows the club and the league.

Different personal/club since he left.

It's a no from me.

[bigwheel]

Wouldn’t trust Stubbs unless he had Doolan and Taff with him again - they were vital

[BroxburnHibee]

Rose tinted specs. Stubbs record near the end of his time (cup win apart) was dreadful and a poor start the following season would probably have seen him binned.

Best he remains a legend for the cup win than to have it tarnished

[A Hi-Bee]

Wouldn’t trust Stubbs unless he had Doolan and Taff with him again - they were vital

Correct, and who knows if these 2 guys would want to work with Stubbs again.

[easty]

No thanks. Stubbs is a legend today, I wouldn't want that to be tarnished. Stubbs hasn't done anything since leaving Hibs that would give me any great confidence he'd be a success this time.

[MWHIBBIES]

Wouldn’t trust Stubbs unless he had Doolan and Taff with him again - they were vital

Yep 100%. Needs his backroom guys.

[Stevie Reid]

Think the time has passed, will always love him though - and signs in 2016 were that we'd have thrived in the SPL under him.

[Brown Hibs]

Wouldn’t trust Stubbs unless he had Doolan and Taff with him again - they were vital

What does Taff bring?

[Northernhibee]

Rose tinted specs. Stubbs record near the end of his time (cup win apart) was dreadful and a poor start the following season would probably have seen him binned.

Best he remains a legend for the cup win than to have it tarnished

Our schedule at that time was absolutely crazy. We were competing on three fronts and suffered some misfortune in that respect and he dealt with it reasonably well with some pragmatism and signs that the corner was to be turned. We did pick up league form in the last few games of the season when it became a bit less relentless.

We would absolutely need to have Taff and Doolan with him too as the three complimented each other brilliantly and if it was the trio I'd have them back in a heartbeat. Excellent recruitment, good football, cup winner and a real feel good feeling around the club with him in charge. An excellent and classy ambassador for us too. Only once lost to top flight opposition and that included some big names too.

[Waxy]

We maybe best leave the legend as is.

[Hibernian Verse]

Other than winning the Cup with us, what else has Alan Stubbs got on his CV?

Been sacked at Doncaster & St Mirren.

Bring back Stubbs right enough.

[Since452]

I'd like to remember him as a cup winning manager.

[Bristolhibby]

Rose tinted specs. Stubbs record near the end of his time (cup win apart) was dreadful and a poor start the following season would probably have seen him binned.

Best he remains a legend for the cup win than to have it tarnished

Yip, remember not making the playoff final the year we won the cup. Inexcusable, especially with the advantage from the first leg. That was on Stubbs. All was forgotten with the Cup win, but we had an extra season in the Championship.

J

[Sioux]

I would like to just keep Alan Stubbs as a Hibs hero and leave it at that.

He has not managed for a long time and never succeeded at a level above the Scottish Championship.

Hi didn't succeed in the Scottish Championship.

[easty]

Been sacked at Doncaster & St Mirren.

Bring back Stubbs right enough.

Rotherham and St Mirren.

I think they were quite harsh at St Mirren to sack him. They lost 4 on the bounce, but 3 were away at Rangers, Aberdeen and Hearts. It's not as though he'd taken over a top club, or a club who'd invested in the squad either.

[Lago]

Inherited a mess when he became manager first time around, with a fit squad and a few additions he could turn us around quickly, knows the club and the league.
There is always someone 😒

[CapitalGreen]

Love him for winning us the cup but he came 3rd in a 2 horse race in the League. Made a mess of another 2 great opportunities to add silverware prior to the cup win too.

[Chorley Hibee]

The cup win clouds reality I'm afraid.

A list of defeats from the likes of Alloa, Dumbarton, Falkirk, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers and Morton had his coat on the proverbial shoogly peg prior to May 2016.

The defeats to Alloa, Dumbarton weren't one offs either!

Never to be forgotten in Hibs history, but that's where he needs to stay.

[JohnM1875]

Will forever love the guy for the cup win but wouldn't want him back now.

[Stevie Reid]

Yip, remember not making the playoff final the year we won the cup. Inexcusable, especially with the advantage from the first leg. That was on Stubbs. All was forgotten with the Cup win, but we had an extra season in the Championship.

J

What advantage from the first leg?

[The Spaceman]

Let sleeping dogs lie - he is a legendary manager and wouldn't want any sheen taken off his contribution to 21.05.16.

[LewysGot2]

Yip, remember not making the playoff final the year we won the cup. Inexcusable, especially with the advantage from the first leg. That was on Stubbs. All was forgotten with the Cup win, but we had an extra season in the Championship.

J

We drew the first leg?

[Nicho87]

Football attacking was good

Good eye for a player

We could hire worse

[EricM]

No, let’s not ruin the SC memories

The play off and league cup final defeats were a disaster that season

He was right to quit while he was ahead

[heretoday]

We maybe best leave the legend as is.

Hear hear. It would only end in tears and his glorious memory would be tarnished.
He wouldn't come back anyway. His family want him at home not up in Scotland.

[Stevie Reid]

No, let’s not ruin the SC memories

The play off and league cup final defeats were a disaster that season

He was right to quit while he was ahead

How was the League Cup Final defeat a disaster?

[cabbageandribs1875]

Naw




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[weecounty hibby]

Yesterday's man and by yesterday I mean 2016!! Has done nothing since leaving Hibs and hasn't been in the game for years now. Unlikely to see him manage any team again never mind a top flight club like Hibs. Let's leave his memory as 21/05/2016

[Baader]

Best left alone.

[ScottB]

God no.

The cup final, understandably, glosses right over his time here. Remember being knocked out the play offs by Falkirk? There’s every chance he’d have been sacked that summer if we hadn’t got to Hampden.

That he’s failed everywhere he’s been since supports the view that he’s just not that good. He had a great squad relative to our division and still made hard going of it at points, a position we aren’t likely to enjoy again any time soon.

Leave him as a happy memory and move on I say.

[we are hibs]

People on here just love rewriting history. Some utter guff written on this thread.

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[MWHIBBIES]

God no.

The cup final, understandably, glosses right over his time here. Remember being knocked out the play offs by Falkirk? There’s every chance he’d have been sacked that summer if we hadn’t got to Hampden.

That he’s failed everywhere he’s been since supports the view that he’s just not that good. He had a great squad relative to our division and still made hard going of it at points, a position we aren’t likely to enjoy again any time soon.

Leave him as a happy memory and move on I say.

Tbh, its the opposite. The cup win is making people forget the many, many other brilliant things the man done. Made us tough, hard to beat, won big games, made easter road a very hard place to come, signed brilliant players.

You cannot speak about the playoffs with Falkirk without speaking about the dreadful refereeing decisions than cost us in both legs. If you're going to condense his 2 years here down to 1 defeat, at least be reasonable about it. We win that tie with a decent referee.

I say this as someone who does not want him back as manager.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Tbh, its the opposite. The cup win is making people forget the many, many other brilliant things the man done. Made us tough, hard to beat, won big games, made easter road a very hard place to come, signed brilliant players.

You cannot speak about the playoffs with Falkirk without speaking about the dreadful refereeing decisions than cost us in both legs. If you're going to condense his 2 years here down to 1 defeat, at least be reasonable about it. We win that tie with a decent referee.

I say this as someone who does not want him back as manager.

Agree completely.

I don’t want him back but he gets a harder time than he deserves in here imo and that’s without even considering the cup win.

[J-C]

He's only allowed back if Doolan and Taff come with him and get George Craig out if semi retirement to head up recruitment again.

[SlickShoes]

Stubbs final run of league games that season was NOT GOOD. Have people lost their memories?

Our final 10 league games that season we WON 4 - DRAW 3 - LOSS 3, we also lost the 2 previous league games to those ten to Dumbarton and Morton. We also lost the league cup final in this period.

In the playoffs we played 4, WON 1 - DRAW 1 - LOSS 2

It was not a good period, we really struggled to break teams down and often would control the game then just lose 2 goals out of nothing.

[Stevie Reid]

Stubbs final run of league games that season was NOT GOOD. Have people lost their memories?

Our final 10 league games that season we WON 4 - DRAW 3 - LOSS 3, we also lost the 2 previous league games to those ten to Dumbarton and Morton. We also lost the league cup final in this period.

In the playoffs we played 4, WON 1 - DRAW 1 - LOSS 2

It was not a good period, we really struggled to break teams down and often would control the game then just lose 2 goals out of nothing.

I honestly never thought I'd see the time where we finally won the Scottish Cup after 114 years described as not a good period - it was a great period. We got to the two major cup finals when we were a Championship team, very unlucky not to win one and then went onto probably the most notable Scottish Cup win of all time. It was an incredibly exciting, high stakes time - and the fact that the SC win came after those disappointments made it even sweeter.

Yes, we had our struggles in the league with Stubbs, and yes the RC cup final and Falkirk playoff ultimately ended in disappointment - but Stubbs delivered on so many occasions. We knocked out SPL opposition in Ross County in the 2015 LC, and then only lost to a good Utd side on pens. In 2016 we knocked six SPL teams out of the two cup competitions. His record against both Hearts and Rangers was excellent as well.

Tbh this just shows how ridiculous the big game chat was with Ross. Stubbs (and Lennon too, actually) delivered lots of big game performances and wins - yet so many posters on here only want to focus on failures in the more mundane fixtures. So basically some folk just want a manager that will win every single match we play. Nae bother.

[jacomo]

Stubbs final run of league games that season was NOT GOOD. Have people lost their memories?

Our final 10 league games that season we WON 4 - DRAW 3 - LOSS 3, we also lost the 2 previous league games to those ten to Dumbarton and Morton. We also lost the league cup final in this period.

In the playoffs we played 4, WON 1 - DRAW 1 - LOSS 2

It was not a good period, we really struggled to break teams down and often would control the game then just lose 2 goals out of nothing.


You’ve lost all sense of perspective mate.

I feel sorry for you.

[Speedy]

No thanks

[Brightside]

It will never happen. Look to another nation guys.

[shetlandhibee]

I honestly never thought I'd see the time where we finally won the Scottish Cup after 114 years described as not a good period - it was a great period. We got to the two major cup finals when we were a Championship team, very unlucky not to win one and then went onto probably the most notable Scottish Cup win of all time. It was an incredibly exciting, high stakes time - and the fact that the SC win came after those disappointments made it even sweeter.

Yes, we had our struggles in the league with Stubbs, and yes the RC cup final and Falkirk playoff ultimately ended in disappointment - but Stubbs delivered on so many occasions. We knocked out SPL opposition in Ross County in the 2015 LC, and then only lost to a good Utd side on pens. In 2016 we knocked six SPL teams out of the two cup competitions. His record against both Hearts and Rangers was excellent as well.

Tbh this just shows how ridiculous the big game chat was with Ross. Stubbs (and Lennon too, actually) delivered lots of big game performances and wins - yet so many posters on here only want to focus on failures in the more mundane fixtures. So basically some folk just want a manager that will win every single match we play. Nae bother.:top marks:top markshere here most sensible post on this thread by a mile:agree:

[Since452]

I'm pretty sure Stubbs failed to get promoted with just one point less than Lennon got. Lennon didn't have Rangers or Hearts to contend with either. Stubbs time was a bit of a rollercoaster but enjoyed it far more than Lennons Championship season. Absolutely turgid stuff that was.

Don't want Stubbs back but thoroughly enjoyed his time at the club.

[Winston Ingram]

Rose tinted specs. Stubbs record near the end of his time (cup win apart) was dreadful and a poor start the following season would probably have seen him binned.

Best he remains a legend for the cup win than to have it tarnished

This. He was 10 minutes from being an unmitigated disaster.

[MKHIBEE]

This. He was 10 minutes from being an unmitigated disaster.

Was that in the 1st round of the cup or the final?

[Coco Bryce]

This. He was 10 minutes from being an unmitigated disaster.

That would be a massive step backwards.

No thanks.

[Stevie Reid]

This. He was 10 minutes from being an unmitigated disaster.

This is so OTT. We weren’t favourites to get the one guaranteed promotion position in either of our first two seasons - we finished 2nd and 3rd.

Yes, finishing behind Falkirk was disappointing, no doubt, but our excellence in the cup tournaments clearly had an adverse affect on that. Ultimately we finished in the playoffs both seasons, which was par for the course really.

However, most important of all, I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would focus on the fact that we were losing the cup final with ten minutes still to play. We won it, and we won it brilliantly.

A game lasts 90 minutes, there was still more than 10% of the game to go when we equalised. There are plenty of occasions to focus on where we blew great opportunities for success - if that’s your cup of tea. To take that attitude on possibly the greatest day in our history is just bizarre.

[bigwheel]

This. He was 10 minutes from being an unmitigated disaster.

I’ve told you a million times, don’t exaggerate

[Northernhibee]

This is so OTT. We weren’t favourites to get the one guaranteed promotion position in either of our first two seasons - we finished 2nd and 3rd.

Yes, finishing behind Falkirk was disappointing, no doubt, but our excellence in the cup tournaments clearly had an adverse affect on that. Ultimately we finished in the playoffs both seasons, which was par for the course really.

However, most important of all, I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would focus on the fact that we were losing the cup final with ten minutes still to play. We won it, and we won it brilliantly.

A game lasts 90 minutes, there was still more than 10% of the game to go when we equalised. There are plenty of occasions to focus on where we blew great opportunities for success - if that’s your cup of tea. To take that attitude on possibly the greatest day in our history is just bizarre.

Completely this. Stubbs, for the first time in years, gave us a team to be proud of then possibly the best day of my life on 21st of May.

That will be his legacy, not struggling to compete on all three fronts.

[Stevie Reid]

Completely this. Stubbs, for the first time in years, gave us a team to be proud of then possibly the best day of my life on 21st of May.

That will be his legacy, not struggling to compete on all three fronts.

100%. Arrived at a club that was completely broken, and left us a club reborn.

[Smartie]

Stubbs’ second season was a rollercoaster.

Choose focussing the highs, the lows or the whole journey depending on your outlook on life.

Personally I remember where we were in the aftermath of that defeat to Hamilton and where we ended up just 2 short years later, whilst bearing a few scars picked up during some of the painful experiences we had along the way.

[Chorley Hibee]

I'm pretty sure Stubbs failed to get promoted with just one point less than Lennon got. Lennon didn't have Rangers or Hearts to contend with either. Stubbs time was a bit of a rollercoaster but enjoyed it far more than Lennons Championship season. Absolutely turgid stuff that was.

Don't want Stubbs back but thoroughly enjoyed his time at the club.

I certainly didn't enjoy 4 defeats each to Falkirk and Raith, 3 each to Queen of the South and Dumbarton and 2 defeats to Alloa, all in the space of 2 seasons.

He'll always have a special place in Hibs folklore, bit the idea he's the man to succeed now is fantasy stuff.

[Key West]

100%. Arrived at a club that was completely broken, and left us a club reborn.

That's how it was and I think it is a reasonable suggestion to consider him, we over complicate things in this country the SPL us not The Premiership or La Liga, respect all the reies though. My choice would be Steve Clarke if we could get him.

[Key West]

That's how it was and I think it is a reasonable suggestion to consider him, we over complicate things in this country the SPL us not The Premiership or La Liga, respect all the reies though. My choice would be Steve Clarke if we could get him.

Apologies is not us and replies not reies!!!

[Winston Ingram]

This is so OTT. We weren’t favourites to get the one guaranteed promotion position in either of our first two seasons - we finished 2nd and 3rd.

Yes, finishing behind Falkirk was disappointing, no doubt, but our excellence in the cup tournaments clearly had an adverse affect on that. Ultimately we finished in the playoffs both seasons, which was par for the course really.

However, most important of all, I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would focus on the fact that we were losing the cup final with ten minutes still to play. We won it, and we won it brilliantly.

A game lasts 90 minutes, there was still more than 10% of the game to go when we equalised. There are plenty of occasions to focus on where we blew great opportunities for success - if that’s your cup of tea. To take that attitude on possibly the greatest day in our history is just bizarre.

I’m not focusing on the Cup Final. I’m focusing on his performance in the league over the 2 seasons and the fact he led us to our lowest ever league finish in over 50 years.

[Allant1981]

I would be against bringing him back, take away the cup win(hard i know) but he has been a failure at every club he has been at in the league. For that reason alone id be against it

[Johnny Clash]

We need a fresh approach. A manager with experience and proven ability. Ron will have to dig deep but if you get a great manager you’ll do the business on the pitch and fill the stands. We need something inspirational!

[Eaststand]

Completely this. Stubbs, for the first time in years, gave us a team to be proud of then possibly the best day of my life on 21st of May.

That will be his legacy, not struggling to compete on all three fronts.

Agreed, and your post in bang on 👍🏻

GGTTH