If you became Hibs new manager..

[CJHibby]

Who are you keeping and who are you moving on??

[HibsGW]

Who are you keeping and who are you moving on??

Keep - Stevenson, Hanlon, Porteous, Cadden, Clarke, Melkerson, Hauge, Doig, Nisbet, Mueller, Newell

Don’t think I’d be fussed about keeping any of the others and there’s a couple in the keep section that I wouldn’t be too fussed about either way.

[WhileTheChief..]

First ones to go would be Hanlon and Stevenson. Nothing against them but I want a fresh start. We're stale and they've been with us way too long.

I'd keep Cadden, he's come on to a game.

Not fussed for anyone else. Pretty depressing how many of them we have on longish term contracts. None of them are worth it.

[Since452]

I'd make it a prioroty to get Porto tied down and i'd immediatley make him captian. The guys on loan would be gone. Maybe sign Jasper permanantly as he does have something about him. Wright has improved but i'd move him on if i could to free a wage up. Same with Hanlon sadly. I still think we have a nucleous of a strong squad so i wouldn't rip up and start again.

[Sir David Gray]

Based on what I've seen so far and nothing else;

Clarke
Porteous
Hanlon
Stevenson
Cadden
Melkersen
McGregor - Keep him on as a coach if he's interested

I honestly wouldn't be fussed if any of the rest were to leave.

There's an argument which could be made for a few others but I wouldn't lose any sleep if any of them left.

[Northernhibee]

Keep:

Dabrowski
Cadden
McGinn
Hanlon
Clarke
Doig
Stevenson
Mitchell
Newell
Gogic
Doyle Hayes
Tait
Henderson
Mueller
Mackay
Doidge
Melkersen
Hauge

May have forgotten some people but I’d cash in on Porteous as he’s simply suspended too often, Nisbet I’m undecided on.I’d put Campbell out on loan to a Championship side challenging for promotion as I think there is still a player in there that should have been better protected by Maloney.

[Pretty Boy]

352:

New GK

New CB
Portoeus (new contract)
Hanlon

Clarke/Cadden
New DM
Newell
New midfielder
Doig/Clarke

Nisbet
New Striker

433:

New Gk

Clarke
Hanlon/new CB
Porteous
Doig

Newell
New midfielder
New midfielder

Cadden
New Target man type
New wide man/Mueller/Jasper

[Paulie Walnuts]

If contracts etc didn’t have to be considered I’d keep:

Hanlon
Porteous
Stevenson
Doig
Cadden
Clarke
Newell
Melkersen
Nisbet

I think that would be it

[jacomo]

First ones to go would be Hanlon and Stevenson. Nothing against them but I want a fresh start. We're stale and they've been with us way too long.

I'd keep Cadden, he's come on to a game.

Not fussed for anyone else. Pretty depressing how many of them we have on longish term contracts. None of them are worth it.


I’m pleased it won’t be you.

[the_ginger_hibee]

Jasper
Elias
Mueller
Cadden
Mitchell
Clarke

Rest can go. Especially those who have been around forever, leading us to constant derby & cup disappointment 9/10 times.

[JohnM1875]

Keep;

Macey
Dabrowski
Doig
Stevenson
Hanlon
Porto
Cadden
Clarke
Newell
Magennis
Henderson
Mueller
Melkersen
Hauge
Mitchell
Nisbet

Not sure I'd be too bothered if any of the rest left.

[CJHibby]

NorthernHibee-Gogic is gone 🤭. Fwiw, I think it would be better for Hanlon and Lewie to move on. I'd be delighted for Mr.S to go local and have a great couple of years swansong for the Rovers. He still has a lot to offer.

[Unseen work]

Macey*
Dabrowski*

McGinn*
Clarke - Try for permanent
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Stevenson

Newell
JDH
Henderson
Mitchell
Magennis

Melkersen
Mueller*
Nisbet
Doidge - * only if he doesn’t seem to recover. If he does keep.
Jasper - Very important we get him permanent imo

So in essence from the current squad I’d allow Mitchell (GK), McGregor, Allan, Wright, Campbell and Scott to leave without any concern. The players with the * id allow to leave if a suitable replacement brought in who improved the team.

Keep in mind we also have Tait and Mackay to return from loan and also an option to recall Bradley.

[superfurryhibby]

Keep

Hanlon
Stevenson
Nisbet
Doidge
Jasper
Melkerson
Cadden
Porteous
Newell
Doig
Mitchell
Henderson
Dabrowski
Clarke


That's the basis for a decent squad, with the shrewd addition of a clutch of good SPL players.

[Cropley10]

First ones to go would be Hanlon and Stevenson. Nothing against them but I want a fresh start. We're stale and they've been with us way too long.

I'd keep Cadden, he's come on to a game.

Not fussed for anyone else. Pretty depressing how many of them we have on longish term contracts. None of them are worth it.

We’ll be signing the next manager on a ‘longish term’ contract. But don’t worry we can sack him too if he doesn’t ‘hit the ground running’ and/or play ‘attacking football’.

[LEaston87]

Keep:

Porteous
Clark
Doig
Cadden
Mitchell
Stevenson
Hanlon
JDH
Magennis
Henderson
Hauge
Mueller
Melkersen
Nisbet


-------------------New GK

-------Clark----Porteous-----Doig

Cadden---------------------------------Mitchell

--------JDH--------------Magennis

---------Henderson/Mueller


-----------Nisbet Melkerson



Get rid of everyone else, sign Liam Kelly (GK) from Motherwell and Ryan Edwards (CB) from Dundee Utd as well as a holding midfielder, box to box midfielder, target man and fast striker.

[Dashing Bob S]

I’d get rid of them all. Just to put my own stamp on things.

[Northernhibee]

We’ll be signing the next manager on a ‘longish term’ contract. But don’t worry we can sack him too if he doesn’t ‘hit the ground running’ and/or play ‘attacking football’.

Or has a win rate of 19%.

[Since90+2]

First ones to go would be Hanlon and Stevenson. Nothing against them but I want a fresh start. We're stale and they've been with us way too long.

I'd keep Cadden, he's come on to a game.

Not fussed for anyone else. Pretty depressing how many of them we have on longish term contracts. None of them are worth it.

Hanlon is nowhere near our worst player so I'm.not sure why he'd be the first to go. Porteous will be away in the summer and Bushiri is hopeless. Hanlon will be here next season, whether he should start or not is another debate.

Stevenson was our best player on Saturday.

[Unseen work]

Getting Jasper signed on a permanent is an absolute must for me, lad has bags of potential.

Need players like him with the confidence and ability to create. He would be a nightmare to play against.

[Daily Hibs]

First ones to go would be Hanlon and Stevenson. Nothing against them but I want a fresh start. We're stale and they've been with us way too long.

I'd keep Cadden, he's come on to a game.

Not fussed for anyone else. Pretty depressing how many of them we have on longish term contracts. None of them are worth it.
That is 100% the first move a new manager should make. Been with us far too long. We need to build again, quite literally from scratch.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Or has a win rate of 19%.

Maloney won 6 games out of 19 so it was 32%.

I also can see you’ve come to the figure of 19% by only including league games (3 wins from 15 - 20%) and cup ties where we lost (so 0 wins from 1 for the sake of the win percentage calculation) whilst deciding to omit cup ties that we won (3 from a further 3). Gives you 18.75%, rounded up gives up 19%.

Good effort and actually quite impressive. Without a doubt the most selective thing I’ve seen on here :faf:

[Jones28]

Keep

All the January signings
Macey
Dabrowski
Cadden
Porteous
Hanlon
Doig
Stevenson

Don't give much of a **** about the rest.

[superfurryhibby]

That is 100% the first move a new manager should make. Been with us far too long. We need to build again, quite literally from scratch.

Quite literally not from scratch. You're such a drama queen.

[Jones28]

That is 100% the first move a new manager should make. Been with us far too long. We need to build again, quite literally from scratch.

So you get rid of one of our best players on saturday who seems to relish playing in midfield, and the club captain whos returning from an injury lay off?

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

That is 100% the first move a new manager should make. Been with us far too long. We need to build again, quite literally from scratch.

Take a day off eh


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[MyJo]

No need to change any of the keepers unless there is a significantly better player available that would improve the squad. Other areas need more focus.

Porteous in in the last year of his contract so either a new deal is signed or we accept offers for him

Doig & Nisbet only moving on if we get top-value offers

McGregor will retire, Allan, Wright, Gogic, Mackie & Murphy all out of contract and move on. Scott & Bushiri's loans end.

Henderson & Jasper become permanent players and would try and do the same for Clarke.

Big question marks over the players that have been out on loan and returning:

Mackie - Liked the look of him at ICT and excited when we signed him but not looking good that he hasn't been able to step up and isn't even getting a game while at Killie. has a lot to prove this summer.
Tait - Don't know much about him if im being honest, is he going to be good enough to get in ahead of Newell, Doyle-Hayes or Magennis (if he can stay uninjured)
Bradley - Youth player but is actually ages with a few of the guys we have been going out and signing like Melkerson & Jasper so needs to be staking a claim for the first team alongside those guys IMO

Campbell might benefit from a loan to a top championship club to get regular games at that level under his belt. Don't think he's made the step up from playing for Edinburgh City to the level we need just yet. Other like Hauge & Johnson also out on loan i think.

Leaves us with a potential squad of

Macey, Dabrowski, Mitchell

Hanlon, McGinn, Clarke, Stevenson, Doig, Cadden, Delferriere

Newell, Magennis, Doyle-Hayes, Henderson, Mitchell, Jasper, Mackay, Tait, Bradley

Doidge, Nisbet, Mueller, Melkerson


We will need to sign at least two centre backs & a defensive midfielder to add to that. Another winger/forward if Mackay & Bradley dont make the cut and replacements for Doig & Nisbet if they are sold.

[WhileTheChief..]

I’m pleased it won’t be you.

Sheeesh. Maloney got 4 months and you won’t even give me a shot at it?

Ridiculous.

[ancient hibee]

Keep not sure

Move on a few Hibs.net posters.

[jacomo]

Getting Jasper signed on a permanent is an absolute must for me, lad has bags of potential.

Need players like him with the confidence and ability to create. He would be a nightmare to play against.


:agree:

Some mumbling in the press about Shaun ‘not being able to replace Boyle’ but Jasper absolutely fits the profile… more technically gifted than Boyle at a similar age too.

Hibs don’t replace £3m players by going out and buying £3m players. Jasper has the potential to be our new squirrel though.

[J-C]

Keep Stevenson and Hanlon, both have the club at heart and will go into the coaching set up like Gray and soon Daz. Keep Cadden, Henderson, Mueller, Melkerson, Hauge, Mitchell and Clarke. Doig, Porteous and Nisbet will depend if we get good offers for. Keep as squad players Newell, JDH and Magennis would have to be evaluated before I decided.

In other words a big re build in the summer.

[Paulie Walnuts]

:agree:

Some mumbling in the press about Shaun ‘not being able to replace Boyle’ but Jasper absolutely fits the profile… more technically gifted than Boyle at a similar age too.

Hibs don’t replace £3m players by going out and buying £3m players. Jasper has the potential to be our new squirrel though.

We could have went out and signed someone more proven and ready made to replace him though. Jaspers a 20 year old laddie replacing a £3m superstar.

Signing Jasper was fair enough, but it should have been in addition to someone like Jordan Jones who was available, has experience of the Scottish league, European and international football.

[The dalmeny]

Need to watch Mike Bassett England manager a few times before making any decisions

[Nicho87]

Keep

Dabrowski
Clarke
Porteous
Stevenson
Doig
Cadden
Jasper
Mitchell
JDH
Melkerson
Allan

I’d appoint Doolan as assistant

I’d also insist on the singing section moving to the famous five lower and cheaper walk up prices and lower season ticket pricing

[Daily Hibs]

So you get rid of one of our best players on saturday who seems to relish playing in midfield, and the club captain whos returning from an injury lay off?
Yes I would. We keep losing games at Hampden & Tynecastle and we are now a bottom six club. Those two are the only constants in each Hampden debacle 2012 onwards which tells me they aren't good enough. How many seasons have those two finished in the top six in their careers?

[Daily Hibs]

Take a day off eh




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Why should I 'take a day off'? When I am posting my opinion on what I think is best for Hibs as a football club. We are now bottom six and should be past sentiment after another season of failure.

[LewysGot2]

Yes I would. We keep losing games at Hampden & Tynecastle and we are now a bottom six club. Those two are the only constants in each Hampden debacle 2012 onwards which tells me they aren't good enough. How many seasons have those two finished in the top six in their careers?

That was our first defeat at the bus shelter for 4 years?

I really wish Hibs would stop getting to Hampden so much. It was so much better getting pumped out in the 3rd round. Damn Stevenson and Hanlon for getting there so often. I want my Hampden free childhood back.

[B.H.F.C]

Porteous (although probably unlikely).
Doig, if we settle the team down he’ll be better.
Clarke, played in his actual position.
Melkersen, he’ll be a player in time.
Nisbet, criticised him but there is something there when fit again.

Not really fussed about anyone else.

[Daily Hibs]

That was our first defeat at the bus shelter for 4 years?

I really wish Hibs would stop getting to Hampden so much. It was so much better getting pumped out in the 3rd round. Damn Stevenson and Hanlon for getting there so often. I want my Hampden free childhood back.
Have you not seen the draws we've had in last two seasons? Easiest draw every time. The point is with the number of times we have been to Hampden we have a very poor return in trophies with the chances we've had. That needs to change, and to change that we need to move this pair on, that's a fact.

[ElginHibbie]

Have you not seen the draws we've had in last two seasons? Easiest draw every time. The point is with the number of times we have been to Hampden we have a very poor return in trophies with the chances we've had. That needs to change, and to change that we need to move this pair on, that's a fact.

No, it's an opinion.

[Daily Hibs]

No, it's an opinion.
Let's keep the same players that have played in so many big game failures and expect different results. That's been the problem we've had for years. They need moved on and hopefully the new manager will do that straight away if he has any sense and create a winning culture at the club.

[jacomo]

Let's keep the same players that have played in so many big game failures and expect different results. That's been the problem we've had for years. They need moved on and hopefully the new manager will do that straight away if he has any sense and create a winning culture at the club.


This is your opinion. Every manager we’ve had over the past 15 years disagrees with you.

[MWHIBBIES]

To create winning mentality, the club must bin only player ever to win both domestic cups. This place honestly...

[SteveHFC]

Need to watch Mike Bassett England manager a few times before making any decisions

Just drop the 4-4-2 formation.

[h1bs4life]

To create winning mentality, the club must bin only player ever to win both domestic cups. This place honestly...

14 years ago and 6 years ago ? You forgot to mention being part of squads that got umpteen managers sacked . 2 relegations , 4 years in lower leagues , part of the team in 2012 cup final , part of the team our worst result ever in Europe .
One thing you could guarantee that if 2012 score was reversed that there managerial team and all the players involved would have been emptied ASAP they certainly wouldn’t still have 2 players still playing , one being captain 10 years later and still getting beat .
Owners have come and gone , managers have come and gone yet if someone mention’s moving on these two some people take it as a personal insult and if they were moved on a few posters would need counselling.
This place honestly.

[Jones28]

Yes I would. We keep losing games at Hampden & Tynecastle and we are now a bottom six club. Those two are the only constants in each Hampden debacle 2012 onwards which tells me they aren't good enough. How many seasons have those two finished in the top six in their careers?

They also played major roles in what was I think for the majority of us the high point in our Hibs supporting lives. Stevenson in 2 of them.

How many times have Hibs finished top 6? Finishing third is a rarity for us in modern times, but they managed once, the same way that other players like the whole of the golden generation team did and the same way frank sauzee and mixu and latapy did.

[MWHIBBIES]

14 years ago and 6 years ago ? You forgot to mention being part of squads that got umpteen managers sacked . 2 relegations , 4 years in lower leagues , part of the team in 2012 cup final , part of the team our worst result ever in Europe .
One thing you could guarantee that if 2012 score was reversed that there managerial team and all the players involved would have been emptied ASAP they certainly wouldn’t still have 2 players still playing , one being captain 10 years later and still getting beat .
Owners have come and gone , managers have come and gone yet if someone mention’s moving on these two some people take it as a personal insult and if they were moved on a few posters would need counselling.
This place honestly.

I'd love for you to name me any player that has been at a club for 15 years and not had loads of failures. Any club anywhere in the world. That what happens over time.

Lewis Stevenson, Hibs ****ing LEGEND

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Who are you keeping and who are you moving on??

keeping me hopefully for 18 months - 2 years :)

[Jones28]

14 years ago and 6 years ago ? You forgot to mention being part of squads that got umpteen managers sacked . 2 relegations , 4 years in lower leagues , part of the team in 2012 cup final , part of the team our worst result ever in Europe .
One thing you could guarantee that if 2012 score was reversed that there managerial team and all the players involved would have been emptied ASAP they certainly wouldn’t still have 2 players still playing , one being captain 10 years later and still getting beat .
Owners have come and gone , managers have come and gone yet if someone mention’s moving on these two some people take it as a personal insult and if they were moved on a few posters would need counselling.
This place honestly.

So one defeat - a bad one right enough - but one defeat, and you'd have emptied everyone that played in a game?

While comparing Hibs and Hearts - did they empty everyone that got dumped out the cup by Brora a couple of years ago?

[Jones28]

Just drop the 4-4-2 formation.

Get Lambert and Butler in the team an all.

[spike220]

If I became Hibs Manager I know we would be in real trouble

[heretoday]

If I were Hibs manager we'd soon be visiting places like Montrose and Elgin on a regular basis.
Nice days out though. No?

[Smartie]

I’ve just had a look through my WhatsApp to see what was shared during lockdown and I think it’s in everybody’s interests that I resign before I’m even offered the job.

[Since452]

We're on our way we're on our way. We're off to Elgin we're on our way.

[McGruber]

Keep:

Dabrowski
Cadden
McGinn
Hanlon
Clarke
Doig
Stevenson
Mitchell
Newell
Gogic
Doyle Hayes
Tait
Henderson
Mueller
Mackay
Doidge
Melkersen
Hauge

May have forgotten some people but I’d cash in on Porteous as he’s simply suspended too often, Nisbet I’m undecided on.I’d put Campbell out on loan to a Championship side challenging for promotion as I think there is still a player in there that should have been better protected by Maloney.

That's quite a large keep list and I kind of agree. Player wise we aren't as bad as the results we've been getting, hence the manager losing his job. Last season we just needed to add one or 2 bits of quality in certain positions and not a rebuild. I think we are still largely in the same boat. A good manager would get a lot more out of individuals here and need to add 4 or 5 with real quality - 2 strikers, centre mid, centre back & ideally keeper.

Got to get some good experience in the team too .

Obviously still players needing moved on - Wright, Scott, McGregor seems finished with his playing career - there's easily 7 or 8 can leave without causing us any bother

[wandering_hibee]

I would keep all of the players in contract, including Bradley who has been missed from a few lists and seems to be doing well at Dundalk. I would let the loanees leave, with the exception of Clark and perhaps Jasper and let all the out of contract players go.
I would add at least 1 strong ball winning midfielder and at least one strong attacker and build my team around them.
Ryan is the one that I would have most sleepless nights over, do I try and get him to stay, make him captain and hope he changes his ways or let him leave and buy a strong central defender as well as the new midfielder and striker.

[WeeRussell]

So you get rid of one of our best players on saturday who seems to relish playing in midfield, and the club captain whos returning from an injury lay off?

Yep, and simply because ‘they’ve been with us too long’.

[Daily Hibs]

I'd love for you to name me any player that has been at a club for 15 years and not had loads of failures. Any club anywhere in the world. That what happens over time.

Lewis Stevenson, Hibs ****ing LEGEND
As Ron said, we have been average for too long now. Time to get a better standard of player in.

[Daily Hibs]

14 years ago and 6 years ago ? You forgot to mention being part of squads that got umpteen managers sacked . 2 relegations , 4 years in lower leagues , part of the team in 2012 cup final , part of the team our worst result ever in Europe .
One thing you could guarantee that if 2012 score was reversed that there managerial team and all the players involved would have been emptied ASAP they certainly wouldn’t still have 2 players still playing , one being captain 10 years later and still getting beat .
Owners have come and gone , managers have come and gone yet if someone mention’s moving on these two some people take it as a personal insult and if they were moved on a few posters would need counselling.
This place honestly.
Excellent post :top marks

[Green_one]

I would try to balance the squad

Too many players in some positions and similar types. Gaps in other areas. Certainly short up front and creatively in midfield.

Make a decision on some of the loanees in and out. Sell one of the valued players E.g. Doig to generate funding if the money is right. Spend some of the Boyle money. Probably on a forward.

Rob a couple of players from the likes of Motherwell. Have a ‘must dump, and ‘would dump if replaced’ list. Big list.

Expose some of the younger players to the first squad. League cup subs .

[Northernhibee]

I’m utilising the strengths of that dressing room.

Daz, SDG, Lewis and Paul have massive experience, knowledge, leadership and character amongst the squad. First thing I do is let them know that they’re a part of my vision and I want them to help guide the club forward and play a part in developing some younger players and letting them know the minimum standard and ethics required at the club. I want to hear their thoughts and opinions and schedule catch ups with them.

I speak with Porto and Doig to see where their heads are at in regards wanting to move to another club or if Ryan can learn from getting suspended and develop. Make a decision at their future at the club this summer - if they want to stay then a new contract for Ryan has to be signed. If not then cash in.

Get through to the end of the season before making big changes but let players know the vision, style and most importantly attitude required. If they can’t or won’t then the club will do whatever they can to help them find a good move and thank for their time.

Get started on recruitment right now.

[Smartie]

I’m utilising the strengths of that dressing room.

Daz, SDG, Lewis and Paul have massive experience, knowledge, leadership and character amongst the squad. First thing I do is let them know that they’re a part of my vision and I want them to help guide the club forward and play a part in developing some younger players and letting them know the minimum standard and ethics required at the club. I want to hear their thoughts and opinions and schedule catch ups with them.

I speak with Porto and Doig to see where their heads are at in regards wanting to move to another club or if Ryan can learn from getting suspended and develop. Make a decision at their future at the club this summer - if they want to stay then a new contract for Ryan has to be signed. If not then cash in.

Get through to the end of the season before making big changes but let players know the vision, style and most importantly attitude required. If they can’t or won’t then the club will do whatever they can to help them find a good move and thank for their time.

Get started on recruitment right now.

:top marks

The right answer.

[Northernhibee]

:top marks

The right answer.

I’m available Ron and my achievements on Football Manager are outstanding, let’s talk cash.

[h1bs4life]

I'd love for you to name me any player that has been at a club for 15 years and not had loads of failures. Any club anywhere in the world. That what happens over time.

Lewis Stevenson, Hibs ****ing LEGEND

Doubt you will find any clubs with the amount of failures they have had .
Cup winning legend , Hibs legend nowhere near .

[Zambernardi1875]

I’m utilising the strengths of that dressing room.

Daz, SDG, Lewis and Paul have massive experience, knowledge, leadership and character amongst the squad. First thing I do is let them know that they’re a part of my vision and I want them to help guide the club forward and play a part in developing some younger players and letting them know the minimum standard and ethics required at the club. I want to hear their thoughts and opinions and schedule catch ups with them.

I speak with Porto and Doig to see where their heads are at in regards wanting to move to another club or if Ryan can learn from getting suspended and develop. Make a decision at their future at the club this summer - if they want to stay then a new contract for Ryan has to be signed. If not then cash in.

Get through to the end of the season before making big changes but let players know the vision, style and most importantly attitude required. If they can’t or won’t then the club will do whatever they can to help them find a good move and thank for their time.

Get started on recruitment right now.

Sounds exactly like Shaun maloney

[h1bs4life]

So one defeat - a bad one right enough - but one defeat, and you'd have emptied everyone that played in a game?

While comparing Hibs and Hearts - did they empty everyone that got dumped out the cup by Brora a couple of years ago?

Most clubs would have , we let Fenton and his players carry on that worked out great especially in Europe .
Comparing a Brora defeat with a cup final defeat , European hammering , relegations . Good one .
Said after last years cup final it was time for them to move on and hear we are year later another cup semi final defeat and a further 2 managers down .
This season was the ideal opportunity to say to both thanks for your service and let there contracts run down.
No doubt thanks to Ross both got further contract renewals in November, no idea what the rush was

[Smartie]

Sounds exactly like Shaun maloney

Maloney still had a lot of the 2021/2022 still to play though, lots to play for. Part of his remit would have been to get a tune out of the current squad and achieve something this season (European qualification as a minimum, I'd expect). He didn't show anything like enough from his time with us to be trusted with the next part.

With (hopefully) nothing to play for this season, I think NH's response makes for a perfectly reasonable answer and there should be no reason to make any real mention of this season. That wouldn't have been the case if taking over in December.

[The Spaceman]

Do think there are players in the likes of Mueller, JDH and Newell who will greatly benefit from a change in system/tactics. Same with Nisbet.

[Smartie]

Do think there are players in the likes of Mueller, JDH and Newell who will greatly benefit from a change in system/tactics. Same with Nisbet.

Yes yes yes yes yes.

Jasper as well.

Probably Clarke.

And Doig.

Maybe Stevenson.

Melkerson for sure.




Cadden's possibly the only one who has suited the 343, even then we struggled to ever get onto the end of his crosses.

[DH1875]

Doubt you will find any clubs with the amount of failures they have had .
Cup winning legend , Hibs legend nowhere near .

I'm confused. Are you saying that Stevenson isn't a legend?

[bigwheel]

Doubt you will find any clubs with the amount of failures they have had .
Cup winning legend , Hibs legend nowhere near .

Ffs. Most players never get a sniff of a final or a semi final ..they’ve had more successes than most scottish premier players get anywhere near

[WeeRussell]

Doubt you will find any clubs with the amount of failures they have had .
Cup winning legend , Hibs legend nowhere near .

How can he be a cup winning legend, for hibs, without being a Hibs legend?

[DH1875]

I'd keep Doig, Ryan, Clarke, Stevenson, Cadden, Melkerson and Jasper. Keep Hanlon bur only as a squad player, not a starter.

GK: New

LB: Doig
CB: Ryan
CB: New
RB: Clarke

CDM: Stevenson
CDM: New

LACM: Cadden
CAM: New
RACM: Jasper

CF: Melkerson.

And that's only if Melkerson comes good which fingers crossed he will.

[Steve20]

Do think there are players in the likes of Mueller, JDH and Newell who will greatly benefit from a change in system/tactics. Same with Nisbet.

Newell offers nothing. How he's convinced so many fans he's anything other than bang average is a mystery.

JDH might be an ok backup player, but if this winning team that Ron Gordon spoke about is to happen, he can't be a first choice.

Mueller has been bad, but maybe he needs time to settle more than anything.

[Smartie]

Newell offers nothing. How he's convinced so many fans he's anything other than bang average is a mystery.

JDH might be an ok backup player, but if this winning team that Ron Gordon spoke about is to happen, he can't be a first choice.

Mueller has been bad, but maybe he needs time to settle more than anything.

Newell and JDH looked excellent when they had Magennis in beside them earlier this season. Since Magennis has been out they've only shown form in flashes, Newell slightly more than JDH.

They both deserve a chance to see whether they can get back to their best in the right formation, with the right players in the team with them.

I fully accept that by and large, in the middle of the 343 preferred by Maloney, the pair of them haven't been good enough.

Mueller hasn't looked good enough either but I think it can be a bit weird coming from America to the UK and picking up halfway through a season. He needs a break, a pre-season and I think he could be decent out wide in a more conventional formation.

i'm not ruling any of these players out at this stage but if they aren't showing much more come Christmas then I'm not wedded to the idea that any of these players should be automatic picks as they've not shown enough up to now to suggest that that should be the case. Newell especially has had a long time now and lots of opportunities and too often fallen short of what is expected.

[SteveHFC]

Get Lambert and Butler in the team an all.

Their 3rd division players and one of them is 46.

[Jones28]

Most clubs would have , we let Fenton and his players carry on that worked out great especially in Europe .
Comparing a Brora defeat with a cup final defeat , European hammering , relegations . Good one .
Said after last years cup final it was time for them to move on and hear we are year later another cup semi final defeat and a further 2 managers down .
This season was the ideal opportunity to say to both thanks for your service and let there contracts run down.
No doubt thanks to Ross both got further contract renewals in November, no idea what the rush was

Whats your evidence for that claim? You've got nothing whatsoever to back up a claim like that. Players have a shelf life - Darren McGregor and David Gray as 2 cup winner examples - but these 2 have got more to give, as evidenced by Stevensons performance on saturday. A defeat, yes, but a defeat where we scrapped till the last and they were let down by a team mate getting sent off.

Come on, losing to Brora is a stinker, and if other teams are as ruthless as you claim they are why didn't the empty all players from that defeat?

2 players that have outlasted how many managers now? You're not suggesting that these managers have all been wrong?

If they still have something to offer, even if its experience, why not keep tem around? Look at Stevenson, 34 and fit as a butchers dug. A perfect example of someone good to have around the place.

[Jones28]

Their 3rd division players and one of them is 46.

I said there'd be a few surprises

[Zambernardi1875]

Newell and JDH looked excellent when they had Magennis in beside them earlier this season. Since Magennis has been out they've only shown form in flashes, Newell slightly more than JDH.

They both deserve a chance to see whether they can get back to their best in the right formation, with the right players in the team with them.

I fully accept that by and large, in the middle of the 343 preferred by Maloney, the pair of them haven't been good enough.

Mueller hasn't looked good enough either but I think it can be a bit weird coming from America to the UK and picking up halfway through a season. He needs a break, a pre-season and I think he could be decent out wide in a more conventional formation.

i'm not ruling any of these players out at this stage but if they aren't showing much more come Christmas then I'm not wedded to the idea that any of these players should be automatic picks as they've not shown enough up to now to suggest that that should be the case. Newell especially has had a long time now and lots of opportunities and too often fallen short of what is expected.

So JDH and newell have been at the club longer than maloney but get till Xmas to prove they are anything better than average and muller has been given the excuse of finding it hard to settle from America 😂. But maloney get hung drawn n quartered after 20 games. Deary me

[MWHIBBIES]

As Ron said, we have been average for too long now. Time to get a better standard of player in.

Great. I'll wait while we look for a better back up left back than Lewis.

I wont be holding my breath.

[Smartie]

So JDH and newell have been at the club longer than maloney but get till Xmas to prove they are anything better than average and muller has been given the excuse of finding it hard to settle from America 😂. But maloney get hung drawn n quartered after 20 games. Deary me

They get a chance to show what they can do in a team playing a sensible formation with the right players around them. They both did well when that happened before.

Neither should be written off just because (like everyone else) they couldn't play the way Maloney wanted them to play.

And if they don't cut it this time they can be sent packing as well.

[SteveHFC]

I said there'd be a few surprises

Lambert and Butler deserve their chance.

[Zambernardi1875]

They get a chance to show what they can do in a team playing a sensible formation with the right players around them. They both did well when that happened before.

Neither should be written off just because (like everyone else) they couldn't play the way Maloney wanted them to play.

And if they don't cut it this time they can be sent packing as well.

In the same token Maloney should get the chance to get players in to play the system he wants. If JDH and newell can’t be flexible and be a good midfielder in a slightly different system it shows they we’ll just bang average. Can’t have it both ways

[Smartie]

In the same token Maloney should get the chance to get players in to play the system he wants. If JDH and newell can’t be flexible and be a good midfielder in a slightly different system it shows they we’ll just bang average. Can’t have it both ways

I accept the argument that Maloney was given a raw deal.

It’s just that, in my opinion, he has shown nothing and allowing him to continue was a bigger risk than allowing any of these contracted players another chance.

Newell especially is in the last chance saloon. And you could reasonably argue that Mueller hasn’t shown anything more than Maloney did in his time at the club.

But are we comparing apples and oranges? Do we have the same expectations f players as we do of managers?

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

First ones to go would be Hanlon and Stevenson. Nothing against them but I want a fresh start. We're stale and they've been with us way too long.

I'd keep Cadden, he's come on to a game.

Not fussed for anyone else. Pretty depressing how many of them we have on longish term contracts. None of them are worth it.Lewy gives his heart and soul.

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[WhileTheChief..]

Lewy gives his heart and soul.

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He does, and I love the guy.

Still want change though. We've been boring for ages.

[Tha Cabbage Kid]

He does, and I love the guy.

Still want change though. We've been boring for ages.A complete shake up but go the opposite way too though

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[Hibs90]

Doig
Porteous (Captain)
Stevenson
McGregor (coach/motivator)
Nisbet
Melkersen
Cadden

[LewysGot2]

Good faith question- how important to us is having local players in the team or boyhood Hibees pulling on the jersey? Would we relate to a squad of players with no connection whatsoever to the club as long as they win?

Why do we sing about players being one of our own if it's not important or special?

I'm torn. I want us to be competing for everything but I also want to think the jersey means something to people.

[Jones28]

Good faith question- how important to us is having local players in the team or boyhood Hibees pulling on the jersey? Would we relate to a squad of players with no connection whatsoever to the club as long as they win?

Why do we sing about players being one of our own if it's not important or special?

I'm torn. I want us to be competing for everything but I also want to think the jersey means something to people.

I think it's important.

Just look at the club from January 2012, loanees and players came in with no idea what it meant to play for the club.

[Northernhibee]

Their 3rd division players and one of them is 46.

No need to worry, Dundee will have them :greengrin

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it's important.

Just look at the club from January 2012, loanees and players came in with no idea what it meant to play for the club.

Agree. I think a lot of people downplay how important it is.

[LewysGot2]

Agree. I think a lot of people downplay how important it is.

And why you wonder where we are once Hanlon, Porto move on.

[heretoday]

I'd try and get a few characters in if that's possible. Guys like Cummings and Stokes were great at noising up the opposition. At the moment I can only think of Porteous in that regard.