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gbhibby
20-04-2022, 09:37 AM
As a business you need to get a manager in as soon as possible. The clubs main revenue stream is season tickets so an appointment needs to be made ASAP as the season ticket sales will be shocking this year. A new manager needs to see his players in action in games and training and make their assessment on what they have,an also plan for next season. I Know that there is only a few weeks left of this season but the people in charge need to act now as we as a support need something to get us enthusiastic for next season. Do not want this recruitment to drift into the summer,so Ron and Ben get the finger out and act now.

Centre Hawf
20-04-2022, 09:38 AM
As a business you need to get a manager in as soon as possible. The clubs main revenue stream is season tickets so an appointment needs to be made ASAP as the season ticket sales will be shocking this year. A new manager needs to see his players in action in games and training and make their assessment on what they have,an also plan for next season. I Know that there is only a few weeks left of this season but the people in charge need to act now as we as a support need something to get us enthusiastic for next season. Do not want this recruitment to drift into the summer,so Ron and Ben get the finger our and act now.

I'd rather make sure we got the right manager in.

Paulie Walnuts
20-04-2022, 09:40 AM
Wait for me.

No point giving the new man a team with no strikers and watching him struggle for 5 games.

Maloney was already being slaughtered after 5, what’s the point in potentially putting the new man in the same situation?

MWHIBBIES
20-04-2022, 09:41 AM
Quite happy to wait and get it right.

gbhibby
20-04-2022, 09:41 AM
I'd rather make sure we got the right manager in.
Agree but need to act quickly clearly club has no sucession plan the right manager may get another job if we let it drift.

Coco Bryce
20-04-2022, 09:49 AM
The manager we want is probably still under contract with a club.

Since452
20-04-2022, 09:50 AM
I'm quite content to wait. This needs to be the right appointment.

marinello59
20-04-2022, 09:51 AM
I wouldn't be appointing anybody until we are safe in this league.

Mcbizz1998
20-04-2022, 09:52 AM
Wouldn’t be against us naming the manager relatively soon but he shouldn’t take the reigns until the end of the season.

madhatter
20-04-2022, 09:53 AM
Get an identity first and then find an experienced manager (likely to be foreign because we want to qualify and reach group stages) to take us there.

Starts with an identity though. Liverpool chose the way they wanted to go and got Klopp to implement it with excellent recruitment. We are honestly doing a Man Utd, scrambling around in all departments.

CentreLine
20-04-2022, 10:01 AM
What’re the chances we’ll get some American coaching team in that are used to accepting instruction from above without questioning the sense of it?

HH81
20-04-2022, 10:03 AM
As a business you need to get a manager in as soon as possible. The clubs main revenue stream is season tickets so an appointment needs to be made ASAP as the season ticket sales will be shocking this year. A new manager needs to see his players in action in games and training and make their assessment on what they have,an also plan for next season. I Know that there is only a few weeks left of this season but the people in charge need to act now as we as a support need something to get us enthusiastic for next season. Do not want this recruitment to drift into the summer,so Ron and Ben get the finger out and act now.

You can agree it in the back ground, they can watch the last five games from a far and make decisions on new players etc.

Leak nothing to the press and let them keep guessing.

gbhibby
20-04-2022, 10:20 AM
You can agree it in the back ground, they can watch the last five games from a far and make decisions on new players etc.

Leak nothing to the press and let them keep guessing.

As long as the manager is not currently employed. My fear is this whole process drifting into the summer and no appointment made therefore playing staff recruitment is not handled well and playing catch up.

JohnM1875
20-04-2022, 10:59 AM
I'd be looking to get someone in now. We're not 100% safe yet. We also have a host of players out of contract in the summer and it would give the new manager a chance to assess them.

I do think it's a bizarre time for a new manager to come in though, so I can see why the club will wait til the end of the season and take it from there.

Win on Saturday should all but see us safe.

B.H.F.C
20-04-2022, 11:04 AM
Not fussed about it happening before the end of the season but it can’t go to the other end of the scale where we’re flapping about in to June or something silly like that.

NAE NOOKIE
20-04-2022, 11:12 AM
I'd be looking to get someone in now. We're not 100% safe yet. We also have a host of players out of contract in the summer and it would give the new manager a chance to assess them.

I do think it's a bizarre time for a new manager to come in though, so I can see why the club will wait til the end of the season and take it from there.

Win on Saturday should all but see us safe.

Where have I heard this before :confused:

Juniper Greens
20-04-2022, 11:16 AM
I'd like us to get a deal done ASAP, but for the caretakers to go until the end of season. That way, new boss can assess the squad, without being unfairly judged on results. You know a couple of defeats, and sportsound would be all over it

tonyrougier123
20-04-2022, 11:21 AM
Whilst content to wait for the right appointment,I do begin to wonder if this will be another excuse tactic for a poor summer transfer window.

Hibs fans constantly strung along.😡

Hibernian Verse
20-04-2022, 11:27 AM
What’re the chances we’ll get some American coaching team in that are used to accepting instruction from above without questioning the sense of it?

0%.

Since452
20-04-2022, 11:49 AM
You can agree it in the back ground, they can watch the last five games from a far and make decisions on new players etc.

Leak nothing to the press and let them keep guessing.

I think this is what will probably happen.

superfurryhibby
20-04-2022, 11:53 AM
Whilst content to wait for the right appointment,I do begin to wonder if this will be another excuse tactic for a poor summer transfer window.

Hibs fans constantly strung along.😡

You'd have to laugh at this kind of nonsense, if it wasn't such tragic patter. What possible reason could our owner have for wishing to do this?

tonyrougier123
20-04-2022, 11:58 AM
You'd have to laugh at this kind of nonsense, if it wasn't such tragic patter. What possible reason could our owner have for wishing to do this?

What’s tragic is the transfer business we have done over last 3 seasons.

Quite happy to cycle through managers our owner it seems,not so happy to back them.

HoboHarry
20-04-2022, 12:04 PM
What’re the chances we’ll get some American coaching team in that are used to accepting instruction from above without questioning the sense of it?
As opposed to a Scottish coaching team that landed us in the bottom 6?

Lago
20-04-2022, 12:59 PM
As opposed to a Scottish coaching team that landed us in the bottom 6?
Leeds seem to be doing OK under American coach. I always like the saying by an American coach, name escapes me,
"show me a good loser who is not loser, or words to that effect.

Real Emerald
20-04-2022, 01:15 PM
Whilst content to wait for the right appointment,I do begin to wonder if this will be another excuse tactic for a poor summer transfer window.

Hibs fans constantly strung along.😡

This is my worry. Waiting to assess the squad, too late to get the right players, January is then a difficult transfer window and we’re waiting until next summer to rebuild. And repeat.

We need the right man absolutely but we also need him to be ready to recruit a squad ASAP.

superfurryhibby
20-04-2022, 01:19 PM
What’s tragic is the transfer business we have done over last 3 seasons.

Quite happy to cycle through managers our owner it seems,not so happy to back them.

There's no discussion to be had with this level of debate. You win.

Turkish Green
20-04-2022, 01:29 PM
As long as the manager is not currently employed. My fear is this whole process drifting into the summer and no appointment made therefore playing staff recruitment is not handled well and playing catch up.

So the question for me is: was the sacking a spur of the moment decision by RG or was it made before Tynecastle and names already approached.

I have a feeling that this decision was rash and not thought through properly. Thankfully, I believe we have enough points gathered to avoid playoff.

Hibernia&Alba
20-04-2022, 01:34 PM
Would any target be available with only a few weeks of the season left?
If available, is it a good idea to appoint a new manager at this stage?


I think at this point it will have to be a temporary manager to finish the season then a fresh start.

WhileTheChief..
20-04-2022, 01:36 PM
The club statement said SDG would be in charge until the end of the season.

Stonewall
20-04-2022, 03:43 PM
Whilst content to wait for the right appointment,I do begin to wonder if this will be another excuse tactic for a poor summer transfer window.

Hibs fans constantly strung along.😡

Do you really honestly think that?

What have they got to gain by doing this?

wookie70
20-04-2022, 04:17 PM
As a business you need to get a manager in as soon as possible. The clubs main revenue stream is season tickets so an appointment needs to be made ASAP as the season ticket sales will be shocking this year. A new manager needs to see his players in action in games and training and make their assessment on what they have,an also plan for next season. I Know that there is only a few weeks left of this season but the people in charge need to act now as we as a support need something to get us enthusiastic for next season. Do not want this recruitment to drift into the summer,so Ron and Ben get the finger out and act now.

I think I disagree with all of that. No need to rush as there will be more available at the end of the season. SDG has shown he can be a good short term fix as has Eddie May. Get a new boss in like Thomson that splits the support and lose a few games and it could have a detrimental effect on ST sales. I would however want to get the process started. The first part of that process is establishing what went so wrong last tie where we never had an application process. Then we need to make sure that any manager hired knows what is expected and knows the timeframe they have to achieve that and the markers and milestones needed along the way if this is to be a long term plan for real change. All of that appeared to be what we were doing with Maloney but we obviously have very poor communicators at the top of the club as they say one thing and do another meaning no-one knows what is going on. That seems to be very common traits for managers in my experience from work to Westminster

gbhibby
20-04-2022, 06:24 PM
How do you know there will be more available at the end of the season making assumptions there. A new manager will want to know how much money is available but poor season ticket sales will mean operating at a different level. Its a short break before the start of the new season so time is of the essence. Does not take long to work out what went wrong with the process. In your opinion if SDG and Eddie are a good short term fix why not give them the jobs,I would be fine with that, sometimes the best man for the job is already in the building.

JamesHFC
20-04-2022, 06:38 PM
This season is over we will finish 7th or 8th probably. We will have a new manager way before pre season starts.

Hibernia&Alba
20-04-2022, 06:38 PM
This season is over we will finish 7th or 8th probably. We will have a new manager way before pre season starts.

That would also be my bet.

Dazzjw1875
21-04-2022, 05:03 AM
My only issue is how is the new manager going to assess the squad without actually being able to watch them in game environment instead of going by video if he is brought in pre-season, next issue is teams are already making moves for new players to join in summer if we bring in guy pre season how will that work and we will be left behind again picking up the players noone wats or last min loans. For the above reasond I'm 100% certain that they will have someone already in mind regardless of what's been mentioned who will be watching our final few games..

MWHIBBIES
21-04-2022, 05:05 AM
Who was the last Hibs manager who came in with a full pre season and had a bad first season?
It helps a lot to have a full pre season to sort things out and make mistakes. Nice clean slate.

Greenworld
21-04-2022, 05:21 AM
My only issue is how is the new manager going to assess the squad without actually being able to watch them in game environment instead of going by video if he is brought in pre-season, next issue is teams are already making moves for new players to join in summer if we bring in guy pre season how will that work and we will be left behind again picking up the players noone wats or last min loans. For the above reasond I'm 100% certain that they will have someone already in mind regardless of what's been mentioned who will be watching our final few games..Maybe the chosen one already knows all all about Hibs players if it is a current spfl manager he will

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jakeshibs
21-04-2022, 06:54 AM
As a business you need to get a manager in as soon as possible. The clubs main revenue stream is season tickets so an appointment needs to be made ASAP as the season ticket sales will be shocking this year. A new manager needs to see his players in action in games and training and make their assessment on what they have,an also plan for next season. I Know that there is only a few weeks left of this season but the people in charge need to act now as we as a support need something to get us enthusiastic for next season. Do not want this recruitment to drift into the summer,so Ron and Ben get the finger out and act now.


I think getting the right manager is the most important task at the moment, we don't need to rush and make any hasty decisions like we have done previously, learn from our mistakes.

Tyler Durden
21-04-2022, 07:26 AM
The only thing that worried me slightly from Ron’s Q&A yesterday was mentioning we had “2 months” to find the right manager. Hopefully we shouldn’t read too much into that as ideally we need someone by the end of May IMO.

JimBHibees
21-04-2022, 07:40 AM
What’re the chances we’ll get some American coaching team in that are used to accepting instruction from above without questioning the sense of it?

None

wookie70
21-04-2022, 10:39 PM
How do you know there will be more available at the end of the season making assumptions there. A new manager will want to know how much money is available but poor season ticket sales will mean operating at a different level. Its a short break before the start of the new season so time is of the essence. Does not take long to work out what went wrong with the process. In your opinion if SDG and Eddie are a good short term fix why not give them the jobs,I would be fine with that, sometimes the best man for the job is already in the building.

Contracts end in the summer so that is why I think there may be more managers available. I'm not suggesting leaving it until the last moment just saying there isn't a mad rush.

Who knows, SDG, could be the perfect fit but he is rightly in charge short term and he could, if he thinks he is ready apply for the job permanently. That would put him against the other candidates and if he comes out on top great. I wouldn't want to just give him the job permanently without a full recruitment process though. When Ross left I would have kept SDG in the job just to see how it went and did a really full recruitment campaign with no rush. SDG may have done really well and we could have given him until the end of the season and taken it from there. The mad rush cost us dearly with SM.

Not sure about the point regarding ST sales. That money will be the same regardless of getting someone in next week or at the end of next month. It may be a short break but the transfer window doesn't open until June and is open for about 3 months. We want a good start but we also want to make sure we get the right boss and right players in.

NC1875
22-04-2022, 06:32 AM
I think the first thing we need is to win some games after the split. No manager is going to agree to come here until they know we’ll be in the premiership for certain.

Since452
22-04-2022, 06:36 AM
I think the first thing we need is to win some games after the split. No manager is going to agree to come here until they know we’ll be in the premiership for certain.

That's an important point actually. Starting with tomorrow.

Forza Fred
22-04-2022, 06:45 AM
What’re the chances we’ll get some American coaching team in that are used to accepting instruction from above without questioning the sense of it?

Could be worse.

I mean it could be an Australian one.

jakeshibs
22-04-2022, 06:50 AM
Whilst content to wait for the right appointment,I do begin to wonder if this will be another excuse tactic for a poor summer transfer window.

Hibs fans constantly strung along.😡


What a load of nonsense as no business sense what so ever

CentreLine
22-04-2022, 06:56 AM
Could be worse.

I mean it could be an Australian one.

Now that hasn’t gone so badly elsewhere. A good manger is just that, wherever they may come from. My point, however, was about accepting interference from above in terms of team selection. With an American owner, perhaps an American manager would be more used to that style of accountability.
On the up side, SDG has all the metal it needs to steer us through to the end of the season.

Greenbeard
22-04-2022, 06:56 AM
If Killie win tonight to seal the Championship title then McInnes is basically free. God forbid.

Since452
22-04-2022, 07:08 AM
If Killie win tonight to seal the Championship title then McInnes is basically free. God forbid.

These pesky successful managers. Best avoided.

Forza Fred
22-04-2022, 07:19 AM
Now that hasn’t gone so badly elsewhere. A good manger is just that, wherever they may come from. My point, however, was about accepting interference from above in terms of team selection. With an American owner, perhaps an American manager would be more used to that style of accountability.
On the up side, SDG has all the metal it needs to steer us through to the end of the season.

Perhaps he wouldn’t