Message to Ron Gordon

[Wellbankhibby]

Please appoint a Manager with Experience who likes to play attacking football. For what it's worth I Would like Michael O'NEIL as my first choice but Gordon Strachan would also fit the Bill.

[bingo70]

Please appoint a Manager with Experience who likes to play attacking football. For what it's worth I Would like Michael O'NEIL as my first choice but Gordon Strachan would also fit the Bill.

Michael O’Neill doesn’t play attacking football?

His norn iron team was renowned for being defensively excellent but nicking a goal I thought? Stoke aren’t exactly Brazil 70 from what I’ve seen of them either.

Gordon Strachan is already at 2 clubs.

[Unseen work]

Michael O’Neill doesn’t play attacking football?

His norn iron team was renowned for being defensively excellent but nicking a goal I thought? Stoke aren’t exactly Brazil 70 from what I’ve seen of them either.

Gordon Strachan is already at 2 clubs.

Was away to say the same about O’Neill.

Him and attacking football isn’t something I’ve heard before.

[Smartie]

Message to you, Ron G...

"Stop your messing around..."

[Wellbankhibby]

Michael O’Neill doesn’t play attacking football?

His norn iron team was renowned for being defensively excellent but nicking a goal I thought? Stoke aren’t exactly Brazil 70 from what I’ve seen of them either.

Gordon Strachan is already at 2 clubs.

Stoke used to be a very attractive team to watch. As For Norther Ireland you cant expect the Manager to play attacking football they like Scotland would be played off the Park.

[Hibernian-]

Message to Ron should simply be piss off with his inept son Ian, who is better equipped playing football manager than being a head of recruitment for a football club, both are out their depths

[H18 SFR]

Please appoint a Manager with Experience who likes to play attacking football. For what it's worth I Would like Michael O'NEIL as my first choice but Gordon Strachan would also fit the Bill.

I don’t think you’ve researched Micheal O’Neill and attacking football mate.

[jacomo]

Message to Ron should simply be piss off with his inept son Ian, who is better equipped playing football manager than being a head of recruitment for a football club, both are out their depths


Er, nah.

[ancient hibee]

Message to Ron should simply be piss off with his inept son Ian, who is better equipped playing football manager than being a head of recruitment for a football club, both are out their depths

Gosh second post in 10 years.

[broondog]

Don’t think he’s going to read your message pal but yes you’re right

[IberianHibernian]

What managers ( good or bad , forgetting club allegiances etc ) have their teams playing attacking football ? I remember St Mirren were good to watch wihen Danny Lennon was manager and they won the LC but he seemed to disappear from scene . Who else ?

[Steven79]

What managers ( good or bad , forgetting club allegiances etc ) have their teams playing attacking football ? I remember St Mirren were good to watch wihen Danny Lennon was manager and they won the LC but he seemed to disappear from scene . Who else ?He's now at Clyde.

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[Danderhall Hibs]

Don’t think he’s going to read your message pal but yes you’re right

I’m not so sure - I think he either scrolls through her and twitter etc or someone do it for him to keep his finger on the pulse.

[Ringothedog]

Message to Ron should simply be piss off with his inept son Ian, who is better equipped playing football manager than being a head of recruitment for a football club, both are out their depths

Behave yourself

[CentreLine]

Mark Venus or John Doolan?
Both got the club and were arguably the engine behind two successful mangers.

[Cropley10]

My message to Ron is simple 'you don't know what you're doing' and stop imagining that the so-called 'fanbase' is represented by the pernicious, vocal minority on here. Whoever you do appoint as manager has a helluva job to do, and if he doesn't 'hit the ground running' and/or play 'attacking football' will simply get the sack anyway.

[HH81]

My message to Ron is simple 'you don't know what you're doing' and stop imagining that the so-called 'fanbase' is represented by the pernicious, vocal minority on here. Whoever you do appoint as manager has a helluva job to do, and if he doesn't 'hit the ground running' and/or play 'attacking football' will simply get the sack anyway.

What would you have done differently?

[BS44]

Ron - get your act together.

[OldEast]

Like your vision for the club Ron. Pity Maloney and available squad didn't click, but now you have a new appointment and the summer window to show us just how good you can make our club.

[Cropley10]

What would you have done differently?

You and I know both know more about Scottish football - in general - and Hibernian, specifically, than Ron, Ian or Ben do. Nevertheless they set the 'strategy' for the direction of the Club and appear to have completely overlooked how young and inexperienced this squad is, how many injuries we had to key, senior players, since SM joined, the suspensions we suffered and how much support a young manager - in his first role - would need. To give anyone 120 days in a job is ridiculous, which points to a complete absence of any real plan, which then simply compounds the challenge of appointing the next fall-guy. Perhaps Ron missed the team being applauded off the park on Saturday. We're a shambles off the park, morale is on the floor (not just the playing squad) and this is on him and his 'management team'. I'd have shown patience and had more belief in the plan and strategy, not panicked.

[hibbydog]

Message to you, Ron G...

"Stop your messing around..."

I see what you did there 😎

[Since452]

My message to Ron would be get someone in to the club that recognises what it's all about. I don't mean the manager either. A John Doolan, a John Hughes, a Scott Brown. Get them in to the club in some capacity. We've lost our identity a bit and need that fixed from within. Guys like Ron and Ben are great but you need people who really get us and have some sort of connection to glue it together. I want people at the club who let it be known that you fight for the badge like your life depended on it and then the good stuff Ron is trying to do will fall in to place.

[Helensburghhibs]

I know people are going to disagree and think it's because he's an ex player but airdrie have been playing some cracking stuff under Ian Murray

[SlickShoes]

My message to Ron would be get someone in to the club that recognises what it's all about. I don't mean the manager either. A John Doolan, a John Hughes, a Scott Brown. Get them in to the club in some capacity. We've lost our identity a bit and need that fixed from within. Guys like Ron and Ben are great but you need people who really get us and have some sort of connection to glue it together. I want people at the club who let it be known that you fight for the badge like your life depended on it and then the good stuff Ron is trying to do will fall in to place.

So David Gray? Lewis Stevenson? Darren McGregor?

People already at the club that know hibs inside out, it’s not as simple as just wanting it, or do they not count?

[ancient hibee]

So David Gray? Lewis Stevenson? Darren McGregor?

People already at the club that know hibs inside out, it’s not as simple as just wanting it, or do they not count?

Plus Eddie May and Gareth Evans.

[Smartie]

I know people are going to disagree and think it's because he's an ex player but airdrie have been playing some cracking stuff under Ian Murray

I don't think he's a bad shout at all either.

[PolmontHibby]

My message to Ron Gordon at the moment would be to tell us, the supporters, when he is going to provide us with some transparency on what has just occurred and what is now planned (assuming some planning was put in place).

The BBC seem to be saying he will update them....but as far as I can tell we as supporters have had no information since initial short announcement......unless I have missed it on one of the many social media platforms I do not use.

[SlickShoes]

My message to Ron Gordon at the moment would be to tell us, the supporters, when he is going to provide us with some transparency on what has just occurred and what is now planned (assuming some planning was put in place).

The BBC seem to be saying he will update them....but as far as I can tell we as supporters have had no information since initial short announcement......unless I have missed it on one of the many social media platforms I do not use.

Sacked yesterday, Ron talking to the media today, not sure how you want it to happen even quicker than it has?

[Unseen work]

Since Gordon are Kensell are getting alot of stick I thought it would be worth looking at it from there point of view


19 games played and 6 wins


Aberdeen - 1-0
Dundee Utd - 3-1 - Two goals when they went down to 10 men due to Mulgrew going off injured
Cove - 1-0 with an extra time goal
Arbroath - 4-1
St Mirren 2-0 - Two JDH screamers
Motherwell 2-1 - With Motherwell down to 10 men the majority of the game


First two games started off well with a clear difference in style of play but after the international break we struggled scoring and creating chances.


1 league win this calendar year with us failing to score in 8 of the 13 games.


Failed to get top 6 despite having our final 5 games of the season against the 3 teams at the bottom of the league, Dundee United and Hearts. From those 5 games we got a total of 3 points.


Back to back defeats against Hearts and creating very few chances in both games.


Now don’t get me wrong he had injuries but so has every other team, Hearts have had a lot since the turn of the year too and were missing key players against us.


Now 4 months to turn a team into an amazing free flowing team is difficult, but I don’t think it’s out of the realms of reality to think we would be a more creative and attacking team. Some games we failed to create any chance at all of note. You also need to show glimpses and get enough points on the table for people to trust you to give you more time/money.


There was also the comments in the sun about Maloney not speaking well to staff, have him and Caldwell not came across the best behind the scenes and not got he full support of the players and trusted staff? Other managers never liked him and thought he was disrespectful and there was also interviews he done saying we should have won 5-0 etc then the digs at Jack Ross and there always seemed to be an excuse.


We got rid of Boyle which was also going to be impossible to replace and brought in Clarke, Melkersen, Jasper, Rocky, Henderson and Mueller also joined the squad.


There is also the issue of poor attendances, lack of season tickets being sold and then you look at the lack of Hibs fans there on Saturday, that’s a clear sign of something being up.


My point is whether it may seem harsh, his spell has been very poor. Ron is getting alot of stick but maybe he’s held his hands up and knows he’s got it badly wrong and now understands it’s not as easy as he maybe thought.


Let’s see what he says later today and who gets the job.

[PolmontHibby]

Sacked yesterday, Ron talking to the media today, not sure how you want it to happen even quicker than it has?

My point is we are hearing about speaking to the media from BBC and not from the club we support - unless I have missed some communication.

Personally I would like to know when it is taking place and if can listen in...again unless I have missed some actual announcement.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Simply, do better next time, most new owners make mistakes and that's natural because for the most part practically none of them are steeped in football, being a fan of the game notwithstanding, before they become owners. The trick of being an owner is to get the right people in place to run the club day to day .... a lesson in that is, nobody likes nepotism, and if it's failed nepotism they like it even less. Eventually Ron the buck stops with you and if the people you have hired to assist you fail, especially relatives, its you that gets the blame ... not them.

But there's an underlying problem that is starting to become more and more evident in your tenure ( not ownership ) tenure at this 140 odd year old football club. That problem is that you more and more seem to be misjudging the demographic of people who support this club.

All clubs will say their supporter base is mostly working class, but in the case of this club it's probably truer than most, it draws a large slice of it's support from traditional working class areas like the north and east of Edinburgh .... not Morningside, Bruntsfield or the New Town, but the likes of Restalrig, Lochend and what's left of the non yuppiefied areas of Leith .... Next time you are in Edinburgh don't scan the castle and then pop into the Balmoral for a nice spot of lunch before heading to the stadium, take a drive through Lochend, Craigmillar, Niddrie and the like to see where many of your club's supporters live.

After doing that ask yourself if £32 for a game of Scottish premiership football is 'disposable income' to the people who mostly support this club. Ask yourself how many of them will be able to afford the huge ( if the rumour I heard is true ) hike in prices for the soon to be newly refurbished hospitality facilities in the west stand. Ask yourself if a lack of commitment to a refurbishment of the supporters bar in the FF stand where 'ordinary' fans could enjoy a drink in the stadium their team calls home make them feel more or less welcome, not as ''customers'' but as fans loyal to this club.

Look at a massive failure to sell all the club's tickets for Hampden last weekend, yes the main factor was the clubs poor form, but a lot of these missing fans also had to ask themselves if they could justify the cost of going to that game to support a team with little chance of winning ... if money hadn't been a factor most of them would probably still have gone.

That's the reality of the fanbase of this club and it will be a huge mistake to think you can squeeze us until the pips squeak financially because it's already showing in empty seats at Easter Road and last Saturday at Hampden that a combination of a poor team and a nationwide cost of living crisis will ensure these seats remain empty and increase in number next season.

[FilipinoHibs]

Well done Ron for getting rid of that boy that was leading us to relegation.

[jacomo]

Like your vision for the club Ron. Pity Maloney and available squad didn't click, but now you have a new appointment and the summer window to show us just how good you can make our club.


This is about all I can agree with.

The rest of these ‘messages’ and open letters… it’s like our support has turned into a bunch of pompous Jambos.

I’m gonna tune out for a bit because I don’t like the way things have gone over the past 6 months.

To those who clamoured to get Jack Ross sacked or enjoy slagging off players who have served us for over a decade *in particular* - please do us all a favour and can it.

[HH81]

You and I know both know more about Scottish football - in general - and Hibernian, specifically, than Ron, Ian or Ben do. Nevertheless they set the 'strategy' for the direction of the Club and appear to have completely overlooked how young and inexperienced this squad is, how many injuries we had to key, senior players, since SM joined, the suspensions we suffered and how much support a young manager - in his first role - would need. To give anyone 120 days in a job is ridiculous, which points to a complete absence of any real plan, which then simply compounds the challenge of appointing the next fall-guy. Perhaps Ron missed the team being applauded off the park on Saturday. We're a shambles off the park, morale is on the floor (not just the playing squad) and this is on him and his 'management team'. I'd have shown patience and had more belief in the plan and strategy, not panicked.

Good balanced post, cheers.

I think they expected him to come in and challenge for 3rd straight away and it wasn't realistic due to the points you made.

No loyalty in football these days though.

[happiehibbie]

You and I know both know more about Scottish football - in general - and Hibernian, specifically, than Ron, Ian or Ben do. Nevertheless they set the 'strategy' for the direction of the Club and appear to have completely overlooked how young and inexperienced this squad is, how many injuries we had to key, senior players, since SM joined, the suspensions we suffered and how much support a young manager - in his first role - would need. To give anyone 120 days in a job is ridiculous, which points to a complete absence of any real plan, which then simply compounds the challenge of appointing the next fall-guy. Perhaps Ron missed the team being applauded off the park on Saturday. We're a shambles off the park, morale is on the floor (not just the playing squad) and this is on him and his 'management team'. I'd have shown patience and had more belief in the plan and strategy, not panicked.


I disagree lets say you employ a guy to do a job he does the job you ask him 19 times but on 3 of them are any good would you continue to employ him.

For me from the First game you could see it was not working. I wanted him to succeed I really did but was out of his depth. IMO I would have played a system to suit the players available then in the summer work on the change of style he wanted to play. it was obvious that the players could not play the way he wanted. On Saturday w lost the first goal because we tried to play it short and from just outside or box.

Wee SM will learn from this

[K-Zazu]

Since Gordon are Kensell are getting alot of stick I thought it would be worth looking at it from there point of view


19 games played and 6 wins


Aberdeen - 1-0
Dundee Utd - 3-1 - Two goals when they went down to 10 men due to Mulgrew going off injured
Cove - 1-0 with an extra time goal
Arbroath - 4-1
St Mirren 2-0 - Two JDH screamers
Motherwell 2-1 - With Motherwell down to 10 men the majority of the game


First two games started off well with a clear difference in style of play but after the international break we struggled scoring and creating chances.


1 league win this calendar year with us failing to score in 8 of the 13 games.


Failed to get top 6 despite having our final 5 games of the season against the 3 teams at the bottom of the league, Dundee United and Hearts. From those 5 games we got a total of 3 points.


Back to back defeats against Hearts and creating very few chances in both games.


Now don’t get me wrong he had injuries but so has every other team, Hearts have had a lot since the turn of the year too and were missing key players against us.


Now 4 months to turn a team into an amazing free flowing team is difficult, but I don’t think it’s out of the realms of reality to think we would be a more creative and attacking team. Some games we failed to create any chance at all of note. You also need to show glimpses and get enough points on the table for people to trust you to give you more time/money.


There was also the comments in the sun about Maloney not speaking well to staff, have him and Caldwell not came across the best behind the scenes and not got he full support of the players and trusted staff? Other managers never liked him and thought he was disrespectful and there was also interviews he done saying we should have won 5-0 etc then the digs at Jack Ross and there always seemed to be an excuse.


We got rid of Boyle which was also going to be impossible to replace and brought in Clarke, Melkersen, Jasper, Rocky, Henderson and Mueller also joined the squad.


There is also the issue of poor attendances, lack of season tickets being sold and then you look at the lack of Hibs fans there on Saturday, that’s a clear sign of something being up.


My point is whether it may seem harsh, his spell has been very poor. Ron is getting alot of stick but maybe he’s held his hands up and knows he’s got it badly wrong and now understands it’s not as easy as he maybe thought.


Let’s see what he says later today and who gets the job.


We only scored 3 against Arbroath

[RMQ1967]

You and I know both know more about Scottish football - in general - and Hibernian, specifically, than Ron, Ian or Ben do. Nevertheless they set the 'strategy' for the direction of the Club and appear to have completely overlooked how young and inexperienced this squad is, how many injuries we had to key, senior players, since SM joined, the suspensions we suffered and how much support a young manager - in his first role - would need. To give anyone 120 days in a job is ridiculous, which points to a complete absence of any real plan, which then simply compounds the challenge of appointing the next fall-guy. Perhaps Ron missed the team being applauded off the park on Saturday. We're a shambles off the park, morale is on the floor (not just the playing squad) and this is on him and his 'management team'. I'd have shown patience and had more belief in the plan and strategy, not panicked.

I'm certain the main purpose of bringing in SM and his relatively experienced backroom team would have been to push for 3rd place given the Euro rewards associated this season. I'm also certain SM and his team would have given commitments that they could achieve the goals of euro football and an entertaining style of play.

SM and his team, failed, in spectacular style, to achieve any of those goals and we now find ourselves in a relegation battle while still playing terrible uninspiring football for the most part.

I don't have any sympathy for SM - he's a professional who has contributed to his own failure and will have been very well rewarded for 4 months of mediocrity.

I applaud Ron for ploughing his money into Hibs and for quickly recognising when something isn't working - I wouldn't be hanging around to let someone go through a learning curve at my expense either. Either they can do the job they're paid for or they can't.

To me it seems Ron knows exactly what he wants for Hibs and he's not prepared to accept mediocrity or outright failure. Far from being a shambles - we're being driven by someone who has very high aspirations for our club and I'm all for that.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Since Gordon are Kensell are getting alot of stick I thought it would be worth looking at it from there point of view


19 games played and 6 wins


Aberdeen - 1-0
Dundee Utd - 3-1 - Two goals when they went down to 10 men due to Mulgrew going off injured
Cove - 1-0 with an extra time goal
Arbroath - 4-1
St Mirren 2-0 - Two JDH screamers
Motherwell 2-1 - With Motherwell down to 10 men the majority of the game


First two games started off well with a clear difference in style of play but after the international break we struggled scoring and creating chances.


1 league win this calendar year with us failing to score in 8 of the 13 games.


Failed to get top 6 despite having our final 5 games of the season against the 3 teams at the bottom of the league, Dundee United and Hearts. From those 5 games we got a total of 3 points.


Back to back defeats against Hearts and creating very few chances in both games.


Now don’t get me wrong he had injuries but so has every other team, Hearts have had a lot since the turn of the year too and were missing key players against us.


Now 4 months to turn a team into an amazing free flowing team is difficult, but I don’t think it’s out of the realms of reality to think we would be a more creative and attacking team. Some games we failed to create any chance at all of note. You also need to show glimpses and get enough points on the table for people to trust you to give you more time/money.


There was also the comments in the sun about Maloney not speaking well to staff, have him and Caldwell not came across the best behind the scenes and not got he full support of the players and trusted staff? Other managers never liked him and thought he was disrespectful and there was also interviews he done saying we should have won 5-0 etc then the digs at Jack Ross and there always seemed to be an excuse.


We got rid of Boyle which was also going to be impossible to replace and brought in Clarke, Melkersen, Jasper, Rocky, Henderson and Mueller also joined the squad.


There is also the issue of poor attendances, lack of season tickets being sold and then you look at the lack of Hibs fans there on Saturday, that’s a clear sign of something being up.


My point is whether it may seem harsh, his spell has been very poor. Ron is getting alot of stick but maybe he’s held his hands up and knows he’s got it badly wrong and now understands it’s not as easy as he maybe thought.


Let’s see what he says later today and who gets the job.

:top marks

[et_hibby]

Message to you, Ron G...

"Stop your messing around..."

100%! He'd better think of the future ..

[A Hi-Bee]

Ron,
If you are visiting Scotland, just carry on to Cyprus, bring back Neil Lennon then both of you can meet up wi Scott Brown, then do the press conference and blow everyone away.
GGTTH

:flag::flag::flag:

[leith lynx]

Simply, do better next time, most new owners make mistakes and that's natural because for the most part practically none of them are steeped in football, being a fan of the game notwithstanding, before they become owners. The trick of being an owner is to get the right people in place to run the club day to day .... a lesson in that is, nobody likes nepotism, and if it's failed nepotism they like it even less. Eventually Ron the buck stops with you and if the people you have hired to assist you fail, especially relatives, its you that gets the blame ... not them.

But there's an underlying problem that is starting to become more and more evident in your tenure ( not ownership ) tenure at this 140 odd year old football club. That problem is that you more and more seem to be misjudging the demographic of people who support this club.

All clubs will say their supporter base is mostly working class, but in the case of this club it's probably truer than most, it draws a large slice of it's support from traditional working class areas like the north and east of Edinburgh .... not Morningside, Bruntsfield or the New Town, but the likes of Restalrig, Lochend and what's left of the non yuppiefied areas of Leith .... Next time you are in Edinburgh don't scan the castle and then pop into the Balmoral for a nice spot of lunch before heading to the stadium, take a drive through Lochend, Craigmillar, Niddrie and the like to see where many of your club's supporters live.

After doing that ask yourself if £32 for a game of Scottish premiership football is 'disposable income' to the people who mostly support this club. Ask yourself how many of them will be able to afford the huge ( if the rumour I heard is true ) hike in prices for the soon to be newly refurbished hospitality facilities in the west stand. Ask yourself if a lack of commitment to a refurbishment of the supporters bar in the FF stand where 'ordinary' fans could enjoy a drink in the stadium their team calls home make them feel more or less welcome, not as ''customers'' but as fans loyal to this club.

Look at a massive failure to sell all the club's tickets for Hampden last weekend, yes the main factor was the clubs poor form, but a lot of these missing fans also had to ask themselves if they could justify the cost of going to that game to support a team with little chance of winning ... if money hadn't been a factor most of them would probably still have gone.

That's the reality of the fanbase of this club and it will be a huge mistake to think you can squeeze us until the pips squeak financially because it's already showing in empty seats at Easter Road and last Saturday at Hampden that a combination of a poor team and a nationwide cost of living crisis will ensure these seats remain empty and increase in number next season.

Lot's of great points above, Ron & Ben take note.

[.Sean.]

What time is his big announcement?

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

What time is his big announcement?

Scott Burns tweeted at 3pm

"Say what you want about Ron Gordon and Hibs but at least he has faced up to the media after sacking Shaun Maloney. He could easily have taken some softball questions via club tv"

So has it already taken place!??

[Hibernian Verse]

Scott Burns tweeted at 3pm

"Say what you want about Ron Gordon and Hibs but at least he has faced up to the media after sacking Shaun Maloney. He could easily have taken some softball questions via club tv"

So has it already taken place!??

He's having a go at Dave Cormack

[JamesHFC]

Scott Burns tweeted at 3pm

"Say what you want about Ron Gordon and Hibs but at least he has faced up to the media after sacking Shaun Maloney. He could easily have taken some softball questions via club tv"

So has it already taken place!??

Seems like a dig towards the Aberdeen chairman.

[LewysGot2]

He's having a go at Dave Cormack

Yup, who has also banned Burns from Pittodrie

[madhatter]

As fans are we actually going to get to see the full interview or is it only going to be snippets and summaries given by media?

[Hibernian Verse]

As fans are we actually going to get to see the full interview or is it only going to be snippets and summaries given by media?

Someone said Hibs podcasts are on the call and I've got faith in Matty to give us the hard facts of the day.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

RG Media briefing has defo taken place, more reporters now picking up on it and sharing soon apparently

[HH81]

Surely Hibs TV are going to release the full briefing?

[madhatter]

Surely Hibs TV are going to release the full briefing?

I agree, would be madness not to communicate this in full to the fans.

[Hibernian Verse]

There's been a bit on Forth One

[LaMotta]

Clips appearing on Twitter.

In summary - Results werent good enough for a club like Hibs and "some other things" too. Rushed the decision last time.

https://twitter.com/ClydeSSB/status/1516795333887598600?t=N3EySAE3xwGBCrUA89Edwg&s=19

[Irish_Steve]

Yup, who has also banned Burns from Pittodrie

Montgomery? Ray? Jake?

[madhatter]

Clips appearing on Twitter.

In summary - Results werent good enough for a club like Hibs and "some other things" too. Rushed the decision last time.

https://twitter.com/ClydeSSB/status/1516795333887598600?t=N3EySAE3xwGBCrUA89Edwg&s=19

These clips do not do Ron Gordon any favours. Allowed media to chop it up to make a scandal.

Already had the chat about "what manager would want to take the job when players are picked by other people and they just have to make them play?". I doubt people speak so poorly of Brentford when it comes to transfers etc., if a committee is how they operate.

Henderson, Bushiri and Mitchell all look like having some Maloney involvement but these stirers in the media jump over it. Likewise, with Ross - McGinn, coaching staff and kit man. The idea that players just get thrown in front of the coach one day is ludicrous.

[Since452]

Clips appearing on Twitter.

In summary - Results werent good enough for a club like Hibs and "some other things" too. Rushed the decision last time.

https://twitter.com/ClydeSSB/status/1516795333887598600?t=N3EySAE3xwGBCrUA89Edwg&s=19

Celtic fans seem very triggered by this. Weirdos.

[SlickShoes]

These clips do not do Ron Gordon any favours. Allowed media to chop it up to make a scandal.

Already had the chat about "what manager would want to take the job when players are picked by other people and they just have to make them play?". I doubt people speak so poorly of Brentford when it comes to transfers etc., if a committee is how they operate.

Henderson, Bushiri and Mitchell all look like having some Maloney involvement but these stirers in the media jump over it. Likewise, with Ross - McGinn, coaching staff and kit man. The idea that players just get thrown in front of the coach one day is ludicrous.

What scandal?

[LaMotta]

Celtic fans seem very triggered by this. Weirdos.

Absolutely. The way they come to the defense of their wee Maloney is strange. They have quite clearly paid no attention to goings on at Hibs since January. Just like Chris Sutton, McGeady and Commons as well.

[madhatter]

What scandal?

No one would want to take the Hibs job as they won't have any say in recruitment is the current theme of the day. Some awful "journalists" and "pundits" in Scottish football that do not know what a "committee" means and decide to stretch it to "has no say in transfers".

[Nicho87]

Gordon said maloney decision was rushed and they knew it was a risk

[truehibernian]

Watched the full Longbangers interview, well done to those taking part - good questions :aok:

I'm now very worried about Ron's outlook and direction. He mentions disliking the term 'persevere' as it means you never get there - no Ron, it means as a club through thick and thin you strive to achieve by perseverance and faith in what you are doing - to be so dismissive of part of the club's cultural definition was crass and frankly poor. You also were at pains to stress the off field finances being in a much better place - that's good to hear, but your initial interviews on taking over were markedly different when you said it was the first team product that would be of paramount importance - you listed players who you said added quality, well I'm afraid that is not true based on league table and recent showings. They have not added quality. Yes, a coach may bring out those qualities quicker, but Shaun never and none of his backroom team did either.

Your main mantra was excellence across the club in every department - again, that's not happened in key areas. The social media has been really poor after a promising start. The recruitment has been haphazard and out of sequence to what the team needed in January. You defended your son, and I don't doubt he works hard - but that should be a given in any job at the club. I'm still not convinced in his abilities and qualifications to be in that role.

There has to be a balance between commercial activities and retaining the clubs roots and identity as a community, family club. You are leaning heavily towards the former which is a dangerous ploy especially when season tickets and attendances are down and there is supporter apathy.

All in all, a very poor defence of the club's current plight - but as said, well done to the podcasters and fans taking part, they asked the questions we have all wanted asked and answered.

[blackpoolhibs]

Gordon looks quite gaunt. :eek:

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Listening to longbangers podcast now. Great listen

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ZXcy0SieYmIB190Ris649?si=RwCJpZIKRPKXD11ivuoNKw&utm_source=copy-link

[Unseen work]

Just finished listening to his interview with the guys from various podcasts.

Still comes across well to me and that he has our best interests at heart. They’re doing alot off the pitch to make us as good as we can possibly be but unfortunately the football side of things isn’t matching it.

Ian Gordon is part of a team of 6 who highlights players we are likely to be interested in and how much they would cost etc, final decision is down to manager.

Maloney was a risk and this time they’ll take a bit longer to find the right man although want him in ready for pre season so we can get our signings done.

[LewysGot2]

Celtic fans seem very triggered by this. Weirdos.

They patronised us over Lennon - didn't we understand he was bigger than our club? Silly soup taking Hibees...

It's been rinse, repeat since then. Cheer leaders in the media like Sutton, Hartson, Commons, McGeady all looking for a new reason to have a go now another one if their mates has
come unstuck...

[HH81]

https://youtu.be/eOOEFlhvuXY

YouTube link

[Brightside]

I think the guy is totally deluded. His barometer of success will be Web Stats and impressions. Losing your identity will mean we wont be average anymore? He doesnt like Persevere? Very concerned. But there is nothing we can do now. It's his club and he can do what he wants which by the sounds of it will be promoting his boy to CEO after the masterclass in recruitment is done.

[Unseen work]

Watched the full Longbangers interview, well done to those taking part - good questions :aok:

I'm now very worried about Ron's outlook and direction. He mentions disliking the term 'persevere' as it means you never get there - no Ron, it means as a club through thick and thin you strive to achieve by perseverance and faith in what you are doing - to be so dismissive of part of the club's cultural definition was crass and frankly poor. You also were at pains to stress the off field finances being in a much better place - that's good to hear, but your initial interviews on taking over were markedly different when you said it was the first team product that would be of paramount importance - you listed players who you said added quality, well I'm afraid that is not true based on league table and recent showings. They have not added quality. Yes, a coach may bring out those qualities quicker, but Shaun never and none of his backroom team did either.

Your main mantra was excellence across the club in every department - again, that's not happened in key areas. The social media has been really poor after a promising start. The recruitment has been haphazard and out of sequence to what the team needed in January. You defended your son, and I don't doubt he works hard - but that should be a given in any job at the club. I'm still not convinced in his abilities and qualifications to be in that role.

There has to be a balance between commercial activities and retaining the clubs roots and identity as a community, family club. You are leaning heavily towards the former which is a dangerous ploy especially when season tickets and attendances are down and there is supporter apathy.

All in all, a very poor defence of the club's current plight - but as said, well done to the podcasters and fans taking part, they asked the questions we have all wanted asked and answered.

I get what he means about persevere, he doesn’t want to be a club that struggles and struggles he wants to make us one that gets regular success, I don’t see the issue with that.

The definition of persevere is “continue in a course of action even in the face of difficulty or with little or no indication of success.
"his family persevered with his treatment"”

Thats surely not what you want your business or football club to be described as

[bigwheel]

I get what he means about persevere, he doesn’t want to be a club that struggles and struggles he wants to make us one that gets regular success, I don’t see the issue with that.

The definition of persevere is “continue in a course of action even in the face of difficulty or with little or no indication of success.
"his family persevered with his treatment"”

Thats surely not what you want your business or football club to be described as


It completely misses the heart of the perseverance tagline and it’s links to Leith..he should gtf with that. Our cup victory was well connected with that slogan …

[truehibernian]

I get what he means about persevere, he doesn’t want to be a club that struggles and struggles he wants to make us one that gets regular success, I don’t see the issue with that.

The definition of persevere is “continue in a course of action even in the face of difficulty or with little or no indication of success.
"his family persevered with his treatment"”

Thats surely not what you want your business or football club to be described as


It's a term that is part of Hibernian's identity through history - it also means "continued effort to do or achieve something despite difficulties, failure or opposition" - admittedly I may be being a little sensitive, but I don't want someone being so dismissive of a very important ethos that's carried the club forward for years.

[madhatter]

It completely misses the heart of the perseverance tagline and it’s links to Leith..he should gtf with that. Our cup victory was well connected with that slogan …

He did have a point though. Perservere almost acts as an excuse for tough times supporting Hibs.

Also, in fairness, he seemed to be more annoyed by Hibs'd it. Even though he said it wrong. Again, can have no complaints - very difficult building a successful club on top of Hibs'd it and Perservere. The two do not go together very well and are very damaging to the club - discourage new fan uptake in the Edinburgh area etc.

[Billy Whizz]

Gordon said maloney decision was rushed and they knew it was a risk

Not really what they said back then
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/shaun-maloney-appointed-hibs-manager

[huggie1875]

Mark Venus or John Doolan?
Both got the club and were arguably the engine behind two successful mangers.

FFS can we please stop with the “they get the club “ garbage
Every clubs aim is the same win as many games as possible if they have to GET that then they’re never going to a decent manager also you just sound weird

[Sir David Gray]

Not really what they said back then
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/shaun-maloney-appointed-hibs-manager

I was just about to say that, saying it was rushed is completely at odds with what was said 4 months ago when the search for Maloney had apparently been thorough.

Very odd goings on at Hibs right now and I don't like it one bit.

[madhatter]

Not really what they said back then
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/shaun-maloney-appointed-hibs-manager

They are hardly going to announce a manager and say "we've rushed to get him". Would put them under extreme pressure, as if they aren't already...

Narratives always change after outcomes.

[huggie1875]

Not really what they said back then
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/shaun-maloney-appointed-hibs-manager

So you thought he’d say this is a rushed appointment he’s a huge risk but hey it’s ok we’ll sack him if it goes pear shaped 🙄

[blackpoolhibs]

I think what he said is good, we do need more revenue and a 50% increase in revenue is huge for a club our size.

Obviously raising more money increases the chance of us getting better players if we can pay them more, but of course it's getting the right man in to target the right players.

He cant afford another season like this.

[the_ginger_hibee]

Maybe they've just realised in hindsight it was rushed? Maybe they've since researched other clubs processes?

I think credit to Ron for the honesty & concession of making a mistake, especially 1 day after we sack a manager.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Just checked out longbangers youtube (with other podcasts in Hibs.net, DownTheSlope and StrongViews) good Q&A with Ron.

https://youtu.be/eOOEFlhvuXY

[Billy Whizz]

I was just about to say that, saying it was rushed is completely at odds with what was said 4 months ago when the search for Maloney had apparently been thorough.

Very odd goings on at Hibs right now and I don't like it one bit.

The words Ben used was “robust process”

[madhatter]

The words Ben used was “robust process”

What do you want them to put in a managerial appointment announcement, "after a shambolic, sporadic, unorganised process we are pleased to introduce our new manager..."?

[superfurryhibby]

He did have a point though. Perservere almost acts as an excuse for tough times supporting Hibs.

Also, in fairness, he seemed to be more annoyed by Hibs'd it. Even though he said it wrong. Again, can have no complaints - very difficult building a successful club on top of Hibs'd it and Perservere. The two do not go together very well and are very damaging to the club - discourage new fan uptake in the Edinburgh area etc.

Sorry, but the use of Persevere does not act as an excuse for anything and is in no way damaging to the club. How can it influence building Hibs as a successful club?

I find it a bit odd that our owner is talking about crap like this whilst he is presiding over a serious downward spiral at Hibs. Were there any questions about his hirings and firings? Or the transfer strategy? I would strongly suggest these actual realities have created way more barriers to Hibs growing than an unofficial motto.

[Clarence]

The problem is that I don’t think Ron and Ben are really fitba folk and so I’m not sure they know whits gaun oan.

[Unseen work]

He was asked about people like Colin, Kenny and Sue leaving and losing the identity of the club and it was more commercial and he said two of them it was their choice.


He said that they’re trying to professionalise the club and compete at a certain level we need excellence and a winning culture to the club.


If we want average, which is what our history has mainly been about. “Things like persevere to me don’t really inspire me, it means you never get there, you’re always trying but never get there. Or Hibs’d it, that to me has got to disappear……we’ve got to win, compete and be excellent and what we do”


“To do that we need top professionals, too performers in everything.”

I don’t think people should be that offended about the persevere comments as it’s just an owner more or less saying he doesn’t want us to be average anymore and when you look at the last however many years it’s been average at best for a club our size.

I like having someone with a bit of ambition

[Billy Whizz]

What do you want them to put in a managerial appointment announcement, "after a shambolic, sporadic, unorganised process we are pleased to introduce our new manager..."?

That’s what really happened though😀

[bigwheel]

What do you want them to put in a managerial appointment announcement, "after a shambolic, sporadic, unorganised process we are pleased to introduce our new manager..."?

Don’t care what they say, but it’s spooked me that they didn’t take enough time a) before they bulleted Ross and b) before they bet the future on a Rookie . Many of us on here were calling it out …

There’s a lack of humility in the way Gordon speaks . He comes over as “I’m right, and understand this stuff more than you guys “…what a disappointing value set to have running our club .

The commercial focus is better . I agree with this . But his tone makes me wonder “what’s his overall goal?” Feels like it is to drive revenue and value up in the league and with us , and sell out for a decent profit ..Farmer was about being custodian of the club for the community - I much preferred that ethos ..

[Ozyhibby]

I actually agree with RG. In every respect apart from the most important one the club is improving. And they have now taken steps to improve that. If we really want the first team to improve then we need money for that and the club is making more money now than before he took over.
Get the right appointment now and we’ll se genuine improvement.


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[SlickShoes]

Don’t care what they say, but it’s spooked me that they didn’t take enough time a) before they bulleted Ross and b) before they bet the future on a Rookie . Many of us on here were calling it out …

There’s a lack of humility in the way Gordon speaks . He comes over as “I’m right, and understand this stuff more than you guys “…what a disappointing value set to have running our club .

The commercial focus is better . I agree with this . But his tone makes me wonder “what’s his overall goal?” Feels like it is to drive revenue and value up in the league and with us , and sell out for a decent profit ..Farmer was about being custodian of the club for the community - I much preferred that ethos ..

For that to happen we'd have to be a good team, don't really see what the issue is with his ambitions, if he drives revenue up with us getting even worse it will be some sort of financial miracle.

[madhatter]

Sorry, but the use of Persevere does not act as an excuse for anything and is in no way damaging to the club. How can it influence building Hibs as a successful club?

I find it a bit odd that our owner is talking about crap like this whilst he is presiding over a serious downward spiral at Hibs. Were there any questions about his hirings and firings? Or the transfer strategy? I would strongly suggest these actual realities have created way more barriers to Hibs growing than an unofficial motto.

Regarding first point - perserverance being the motto is not damaging on it's own. Of course it isn't, however, when you combine it with our derby record, our history of being unable to sustain success then it does do some damage. If you are born or move to Edinburgh, who do you support (without any family ties), Hearts who are more consistent and win more derbies, or Hibs the club that lose derbies and are less consistent? Sadly, young people are probably swayed by big names/personalities and/or watching a winning team. Long-standing fans do not want to perservere with their football team, they do it out of a sense of duty/love. New fans just do not have that, especially if they haven't grown up in Hibs families. Routinely failing and having perservere as your club motto is not great for new fan uptake, it just isn't.

Ron has sat down with media and fan podcasts the day after sacking a manager. I'm pretty sure he doesn't think this unofficial motto is the biggest problem. I think what he was trying to say was they are trying to create a club that is consistently doing things well. Not having massive downturns (perservere) and then short upturns.

[madhatter]

That’s what really happened though😀

Possibly was, no club in the world would put that out to the masses though, unless their website/social media had been hacked.

[blackpoolhibs]

Don’t care what they say, but it’s spooked me that they didn’t take enough time a) before they bulleted Ross and b) before they bet the future on a Rookie . Many of us on here were calling it out …

There’s a lack of humility in the way Gordon speaks . He comes over as “I’m right, and understand this stuff more than you guys “…what a disappointing value set to have running our club .

The commercial focus is better . I agree with this . But his tone makes me wonder “what’s his overall goal?” Feels like it is to drive revenue and value up in the league and with us , and sell out for a decent profit ..Farmer was about being custodian of the club for the community - I much preferred that ethos ..

I dont think he's in it to make a lot of money, i just dont see it. Although if he is and he does, it will mean he's been successful.

On the subject of finance, i was shocked to learn it had gone up by 50% if i heard him right, those big screens must be making their projected incomes. :greengrin

If thats right, then having more money to spend should be good, and we hopefully get more of our first choice selections in. Going after Kerr then McCart only to end up with Wood is shocking.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Message to you, Ron G...

"Stop your messing around..."

:top marks


:agree:


Oh, and Ron, a manager you don't sack after a few months would be welcome.

[bigwheel]

For that to happen we'd have to be a good team, don't really see what the issue is with his ambitions, if he drives revenue up with us getting even worse it will be some sort of financial miracle.

Think he believes with better commercial focus (underway) and his media background , he can help do better deals for our club and the league …not sure how much of it is about team performance tbh. He is what he is , a businessman , taking a business focus to running a football club . For me , he doesn’t get, or care about the role this club plays in the heart of the community . How much it means to people . Honestly , if he could make more
Money by lifting it up and putting it somewhere else, I think he would ..

[bigwheel]

I dont think he's in it to make a lot of money, i just dont see it. Although if he is and he does, it will mean he's been successful.

On the subject of finance, i was shocked to learn it had gone up by 50% if i heard him right, those big screens must be making their projected incomes. :greengrin

If thats right, then having more money to spend should be good, and we hopefully get more of our first choice selections in. Going after Kerr then McCart only to end up with Wood is shocking.

I think that’s almost all he is in it for ….

[Centre Hawf]

Press Conference with the media is on Hibs Youtube page.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fzK7HfKaFQs

[blackpoolhibs]

I think that’s almost all he is in it for ….

He'd better get a winning manager in then. :greengrin

[SlickShoes]

Think he believes with better commercial focus (underway) and his media background , he can help do better deals for our club and the league …not sure how much of it is about team performance tbh. He is what he is , a businessman , taking a business focus to running a football club . For me , he doesn’t get, or care about the role this club plays in the heart of the community . How much it means to people . Honestly , if he could make more
Money by lifting it up and putting it somewhere else, I think he would ..

I think you are seeing what you want to see here

[bigwheel]

I think you are seeing what you want to see here

Not my intent , just reading into his approach and priorities and what he has talked about in the past ….hope I’m Proved wrong , but don’t get any footballing ambition that’s not at its heart driven by revenue growth desire . And don’t get any place recognising the role our club has in our community ..

[madhatter]

Don’t care what they say, but it’s spooked me that they didn’t take enough time a) before they bulleted Ross and b) before they bet the future on a Rookie . Many of us on here were calling it out …

There’s a lack of humility in the way Gordon speaks . He comes over as “I’m right, and understand this stuff more than you guys “…what a disappointing value set to have running our club .

The commercial focus is better . I agree with this . But his tone makes me wonder “what’s his overall goal?” Feels like it is to drive revenue and value up in the league and with us , and sell out for a decent profit ..Farmer was about being custodian of the club for the community - I much preferred that ethos ..

I think you are misrepresenting Gordon a little here. He is clearly going to be on the defensive, he's just sacked another manager and has had an interview with Scottish media (who are completely hammering just about everything he does) followed by a tricky session with Hibs fan podcast groups. He was questioned on the legitimacy of his son. He was questioned on the credentials of the people making player and managerial appointments in general - which in a sense is questioning him, Ben and board members (as well as his son). He remained professional whilst clearing knowing the pitchforks are out. He knows they are under extreme pressure and is putting up a defence between now and getting the new manager in.

Who cares if Ron Gordon sells us at a profit? Surely it means we are likely a better club. He could've sold us at a profit already - he got us for a cheap price.

Farmer was a custodian at the club but ultimately delivered us some seriously grueling years supporting Hibs. Some horrendous times. Ethos or not, Hibs need more money - being closer to Motherwell in terms of revenue when he came in is quite ridiculous, shows previous custodians might have done a better job.

[LewysGot2]

The usual suspects on PLZ going on about details of what they are "hearing about" and having a pop at the club.
Saying Maloney took massive pay drop to come to us on the basis he would be given 18 months minimum to implement his plans.
Saying the committee style approach to recruitment is an issue.
Saying they think there has been an exchange of views between club and Maloney.
Saying Maloneys deal to go is not finalised.

[superfurryhibby]

Regarding first point - perserverance being the motto is not damaging on it's own. Of course it isn't, however, when you combine it with our derby record, our history of being unable to sustain success then it does do some damage. If you are born or move to Edinburgh, who do you support (without any family ties), Hearts who are more consistent and win more derbies, or Hibs the club that lose derbies and are less consistent. Sadly, young people are probably swayed by big names/personalities and/or watching a winning team. Long-standing fans do not want to perservere with their football team, they do it out of a sense of duty/love. New fans just do not have that, especially if they haven't grown up in Hibs families. Routinely failing and having perservere as your club motto is not great for new fan uptake, it just isn't.

Ron has sat down with media and fan podcasts the day after sacking a manager. I'm pretty sure he doesn't think this unofficial motto is the biggest problem. I think what he was trying to say was they are trying to create a club that is consistently doing things well. Not having massive downturns (perservere) and then short upturns.

The term persevere has only really been associated with Hibs in recent times and has no impact on our historical derby record, lack of sustained success or whatever.

Winners also persevere, ask Robert the Bruce or the Hibs 2016 Scottish Cup team. We persevered, as in didn’t give up, and we achieved our goal.

The reality is that as fans of a club like Hibs in the context of Scottish football, we will always need to persevere. The presence of the Old Firm and all that goes with it have dictated that for all clubs, but particularly these past 30 years.

I don’t suppose he did mention poor stewardship, transfer strategy etc, etc then?

[bigwheel]

I think you are misrepresenting Gordon a little here. He is clearly going to be on the defensive, he's just sacked another manager and has had an interview with Scottish media (who are completely hammering just about everything he does) followed by a tricky session with Hibs fan podcast groups. He was questioned on the legitimacy of his son. He was questioned on the credentials of the people making player and managerial appointments in general - which in a sense is questioning him, Ben and board members (as well as his son). He remained professional whilst clearing knowing the pitchforks are out. He knows they are under extreme pressure and is putting up a defence between now and getting the new manager in.

Who cares if Ron Gordon sells us at a profit? Surely it means we are likely a better club. He could've sold us at a profit already - he got us for a cheap price.

Farmer was a custodian at the club but ultimately delivered us some seriously grueling years supporting Hibs. Some horrendous times. Ethos or not, Hibs need more money - being closer to Motherwell in terms of revenue when he came in is quite ridiculous, shows previous custodians might have done a better job.

It’s not just on this occasion . It’s also when I’ve heard him speak before too . He has a dismissive tone to media and fans …I like his commercial focus . Said that in the post. But his focus is so strong that it comes at a cost - don’t think he really cares about the heritage of the club ..I trusted Farmer and Co more , even in those gruelling years . Because at their core, they respected the club . I don’t get that from Gordon . Hope his excellence ethos pays off ..and he drives us forward . Just don’t think he cares about the club in the way I want an owner to .

[huggie1875]

Mark Venus or John Doolan?
Both got the club and were arguably the engine behind two successful mangers.

FFS can we please stop with the “the get the club “ garbage
Every clubs aim is the same win as many games as possible if they have to GET that then they’re never going to a decent manager also you just sound weird

[Since452]

Press Conference with the media is on Hibs Youtube page.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fzK7HfKaFQs

Is that that melt Brian McLaughlin asking the questions? Asking him about selling the club? Jesus wept.

[madhatter]

The term persevere has only really been associated with Hibs in recent times and has no impact on our historical derby record, lack of sustained success or whatever.

Winners also persevere, ask Robert the Bruce or the Hibs 2016 Scottish Cup team. We persevered, as in didn’t give up, and we achieved our goal.

The reality is that as fans of a club like Hibs in the context of Scottish football, we will always need to persevere. The presence of the Old Firm and all that goes with it have dictated that for all clubs, but particularly these past 30 years.

I don’t suppose he did mention poor stewardship, transfer strategy etc, etc then?

Not sure what you are trying to say here. Of course fans will need to perservere.

Ron Gordon was clearly trying to say he doesn't want Hibs to be known about perservering through common bad times because we cannot sustain success and he doesn't like Hibs'd it as a phrase. I agree with both, I'm more than happy to stick with my club through pretty much everything but new fans just don't. Let's be realistic here, Hearts are in a better position than us regarding fans partially due to the Romanov years. They got to briefly enjoy success that seemed like a pipedream. This pulls fans back and also entices new fans. Having constant or frequent perserverance is not a good thing for a football club. Ask Man Utd fans how they feel about their club at the moment. I'm fairly certain Man City fan uptake in the Manchester area has likely went up and will likely go up again if they get Haaland. Perserverance is something to be proud of but it's not something to get a badge for. You want to minimise the need for perseverance when it comes to a football club.

You want him to say "the club is a shamles, top to bottom" the day after sacking a manager? You want him to criticise players brought in at January even though we have relegation concerns (slim as they are)?

[madhatter]

It’s not just on this occasion . It’s also when I’ve heard him speak before too . He has a dismissive tone to media and fans …I like his commercial focus . Said that in the post. But his focus is so strong that it comes at a cost - don’t think he really cares about the heritage of the club ..I trusted Farmer and Co more , even in those gruelling years . Because at their core, they respected the club . I don’t get that from Gordon . Hope his excellence ethos pays off ..and he drives us forward . Just don’t think he cares about the club in the way I want an owner to .

His vocabulary might be different but he sounds a lot like Budge to me. She uses a lot of business speech as well. She might use "club" rather than "organisation" at times but the rest is pretty much the same.

He wants to drive revenue so we can close the gap on Hearts and have us competing for European football and attempting to qualify for group stages. If he can achieve that, and we have that on a semi-sustainable basis, then he will likely have pushed the football club up many levels.

Barely heard from Farmer when he was in-charge and "Petrie Out" was a common call so I personally see an owner who cares more about Hibs - he did an interview with media and fans podcast groups the day after sacking the manager. There is zero chance that would've happened previously. Potentially with Leeann but lets be honest that regime let certain parts of the ground descend into tatters. They all make their mistakes.

[Stuart93]

Is that that melt Brian McLaughlin asking the questions? Asking him about selling the club? Jesus wept.

He was trying to push that as much as possible. Tosser.

“I’ve spoke to a few hibs fans who perhaps feel it’s time for you to move on”

Well they hibs fan, if they exist, don’t really understand how owning a football club works then

[LewysGot2]

He was trying to push that as much as possible. Tosser.

“I’ve spoke to a few hibs fans who perhaps feel it’s time for you to move on”

Well they hibs fan, if they exist, don’t really understand how owning a football club works then

Shameful attempt to provoke him and invite further chaos. Cannot hide his colours. He's a fan with a typewriter

[hibee-boys]

Enjoyed the interviews, fair play to Ron for making himself available for direct questions from the media and fans.

Got to say I pretty much agreed with every word he said. I roll my eyes every time I read about how we need to have people at Hibs who ‘get the club’ or we need to find someone who will get us to play ‘the hibs way’. For how long have we as a club under achieved, not fulfilled our potential, far too long….decade’s even. Bottom line, whether we like it or not, is that there is a clear correlation in football between the revenue of a club and its success. I’m glad we’ve got someone at the helm who recognises that, produce on the pitch and all the flowery community engagement will naturally follow. If there are people at the club who aren’t supporting in that objective and can be improved then I for one, as a Hibs fan who only cares about the success of the team, agree that action should be taken.

[Since452]

He was trying to push that as much as possible. Tosser.

“I’ve spoke to a few hibs fans who perhaps feel it’s time for you to move on”

Well they hibs fan, if they exist, don’t really understand how owning a football club works then

Trying to create controversy. Absolute bellend.

[Hibiza]

Ron , just heard you saying if there is anyone out there , that has the same committed to the club, bring him on. ( Re - selling ) . Why don't you find them . Sir Tom Farmer may be a good starting point.

[Ozyhibby]

FFS can we please stop with the “the get the club “ garbage
Every clubs aim is the same win as many games as possible if they have to GET that then they’re never going to a decent manager also you just sound weird

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[Alex Trager]

Ron , just heard you saying if there is anyone out there , that has the same committed to the club, bring him on. ( Re - selling ) . Why don't you find them . Sir Tom Farmer may be a good starting point.

I don’t suppose you’ve heard the full interviews?

[Chorley Hibee]

He was asked about people like Colin, Kenny and Sue leaving and losing the identity of the club and it was more commercial and he said two of them it was their choice.


He said that they’re trying to professionalise the club and compete at a certain level we need excellence and a winning culture to the club.


If we want average, which is what our history has mainly been about. “Things like persevere to me don’t really inspire me, it means you never get there, you’re always trying but never get there. Or Hibs’d it, that to me has got to disappear……we’ve got to win, compete and be excellent and what we do”


“To do that we need top professionals, too performers in everything.”

I don’t think people should be that offended about the persevere comments as it’s just an owner more or less saying he doesn’t want us to be average anymore and when you look at the last however many years it’s been average at best for a club our size.

I like having someone with a bit of ambition

I don't know what to make of him.

He speaks well on a lot of things I agree with (commercial aspects, culture of winning, ambition etc) but that isn't matched by what is happening on the field, our recruitment, or the appointment of his inexperienced son to a vital role within the club.

What I do know is that it's the only show in town currently and we need him to get it right, and soon.

[ahibby]

Behave yourself

Second that.

[Mikey]

Were there any questions about his hirings and firings? Or the transfer strategy?

Yes there were. Why don't you try listening to both interviews?

[Lago]

:top marks
His vocabulary might be different but he sounds a lot like Budge to me. She uses a lot of business speech as well. She might use "club" rather than "organisation" at times but the rest is pretty much the same.

He wants to drive revenue so we can close the gap on Hearts and have us competing for European football and attempting to qualify for group stages. If he can achieve that, and we have that on a semi-sustainable basis, then he will likely have pushed the football club up many levels.

Barely heard from Farmer when he was in-charge and "Petrie Out" was a common call so I personally see an owner who cares more about Hibs - he did an interview with media and fans podcast groups the day after sacking the manager. There is zero chance that would've happened previously. Potentially with Leeann but lets be honest that regime let certain parts of the ground descend into tatters. They all make their mistakes.

[Lago]

Ron , just heard you saying if there is anyone out there , that has the same committed to the club, bring him on. ( Re - selling ) . Why don't you find them . Sir Tom Farmer may be a good starting point.
Poor from you

[LewysGot2]

Tom English having a mare on Twitter. Hadn’t listened to the interview with RG, fell for Fat Brian’s click bait trolling. Calls the interview alarming. Gets called out and told to listen to the actual interview. Deletes original Tweet based on Fat Brian’s lies. Still argues things are alarming…

some wag tells him even Budge must make mistakes sometimes