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dastardly8
16-04-2022, 01:57 PM
Thought it was a lot better than last week but a results driven business as it is says Maloney needs to go , it’s getting to can’t remember the last time we won time , any thoughts on who we could bring in as a manager?
Steve20
16-04-2022, 02:15 PM
People seem happy because we put ‘effort’ in.
Complete loser mentality and needs changed.
Allant1981
16-04-2022, 02:17 PM
Thought it was a lot better than last week but a results driven business as it is says Maloney needs to go , it’s getting to can’t remember the last time we won time , any thoughts on who we could bring in as a manager?
He wont be getting sacked so pointless discussion
SaulGoodman
16-04-2022, 02:17 PM
People seem happy because we put ‘effort’ in.
Complete loser mentality and needs changed.
Should we not put effort in?
Nutmegged
16-04-2022, 02:19 PM
Just a complete lack of belief throughout the whole club, miles away from where we want to be, shades of Butcher's team about the current squad, frightening.
NORTHERNHIBBY
16-04-2022, 02:22 PM
Second half showing was fantastic. The issue is that should be the standard performance.
Northernhibee
16-04-2022, 02:23 PM
Could have played for hours and we weren’t scoring a second.
Edited for those who can’t extrapolate the fairly obvious point.
California-Hibs
16-04-2022, 02:24 PM
Could have played for hours and we weren’t scoring.
Nonsense.
Paulie Walnuts
16-04-2022, 02:25 PM
Could have played for hours and we weren’t scoring.
We played for less than two and scored? :confused:
Iain G
16-04-2022, 02:25 PM
Just a complete lack of belief throughout the whole club, miles away from where we want to be, shades of Butcher's team about the current squad, frightening.
There are no shades of Butchers team here at all, what a load of nonsense that keeps getting trotted out as some kind of factual wisdom on here 🤣
Iain G
16-04-2022, 02:26 PM
We played for less than two and scored? :confused:
Aye, apart from that one though 🤣🤣🤣
B.H.F.C
16-04-2022, 02:26 PM
Nonsense.
Loads of the ball but didn’t do nearly enough. Other than the header from the corner, Gordon never had a proper save to make.
Callum_62
16-04-2022, 02:26 PM
Could have played for hours and we weren’t scoring.We scored after 22.minutes though
And were denied a 2nd with a simply world class save
I know you hate all things Shaun Maloney but your talking nonsense with that
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SChibs
16-04-2022, 02:27 PM
Loads of the ball but didn’t do nearly enough. Other than the header from the corner, Gordon never had a proper save to make.
Apart from the free kick he saved and the shot he put round the post
Northernhibee
16-04-2022, 02:28 PM
Nonsense.
We had seventy minutes including time added on after our goal to get the equaliser. I think we managed one or two shots on target after that and a few speculative long range efforts over the bar.
Lots of effort, very little quality. Scott did better than expected but it was clear that he was too slow for the ball over the top and we were losing out on those and he needed support earlier.
Taking Stevenson off lost us a lot of drive in midfield and our options for attacking were impacted by that.
ekhibee
16-04-2022, 04:15 PM
We had seventy minutes including time added on after our goal to get the equaliser. I think we managed one or two shots on target after that and a few speculative long range efforts over the bar.
Lots of effort, very little quality. Scott did better than expected but it was clear that he was too slow for the ball over the top and we were losing out on those and he needed support earlier.
Taking Stevenson off lost us a lot of drive in midfield and our options for attacking were impacted by that.
I thought we were the better team over the 90 minutes, but unfortunately that counts for nothing, we were still beat. You pointed out that we had 70 mins plus to equalize, but I don't remember Hearts doing much at all after they'd scored their 2 goals. In the 2nd half particularly they were diving all over the place and time wasting, including Craig Gordon. If they were that good they would have beaten us comfortably when we were down to 10 men, but still we were the better team. The ref was clearly on Hearts side, and for me the amount of injury time given was nowhere near enough, particularly in view of the Halkett injury etc. In 10 or 20 years time it'll just be another win for Hearts over Hibs, but we were there, we know the truth, no matter how all the Hearts sympathizers on BBC Sportsound try to disguise it.
WestEndHibee
16-04-2022, 04:20 PM
We were the better team but were rightly defeated due to 3 individual errors (McGinn, Clarke and Newell). That shows me that Maloney is not the main problem at the moment and he at least deserves the summer to have a proper crack at it. Hearts fans wanted neilson gone in the first six months of his return. He’s now got them at least 3 million pay off with that win. Can anyone calling for Maloney’s head give an example of a club being successful by continually sacking managers??
jakedance
16-04-2022, 04:24 PM
I thought the players tried their best and it’s not their fault they’re not good enough to play for us, that’s because of woeful recruitment. When it came down to it Hearts won the game because they had the quality to score two good goals and Gordon has the quality to make a great save. It also helped them that none of their players were as stupid as Newell. It’s irrelevant that we had loads of the ball when we’re simply not good enough to do anything with it.
Onion
16-04-2022, 04:32 PM
Lot of effort and commitment today which was good to see, but the bare minimum you should expect in a SC semifinal. Lack of any goal threat has been our main problem since Boyle left.
Still Smiling
16-04-2022, 04:36 PM
What save from Porteous!
IberianHibernian
16-04-2022, 04:37 PM
Loads of the ball but didn’t do nearly enough. Other than the header from the corner, Gordon never had a proper save to make.Henderson free kick ?
Haymaker
16-04-2022, 04:42 PM
Would have been better with Griffiths and Cummings up top
LunasBoots
16-04-2022, 04:43 PM
Could have played for hours and we weren’t scoring a second.
Edited for those who can’t extrapolate the fairly obvious point.
Exactly haven't looked like scoring more than 1 regularly for months
Chip shop Joe
16-04-2022, 04:46 PM
Gutted we lost but at 2-0 I was really fearing the worst and thought we might get absolutely battered.
Enough in that performance to grant Maloney a bit of time.
Winston Ingram
17-04-2022, 08:01 AM
I thought we played better but created very little and never really looked like scoring from open play.
loanheadhibby
17-04-2022, 08:08 AM
Second half showing was fantastic. The issue is that should be the standard performance.
Fantastic?
mcfly
17-04-2022, 08:09 AM
it’s all about winning..
I don’t care about the performance- as a support we seem pleased the players put in more effort. Sorry we lost again
As a club our mentality has to change. It’s a results driven business and we need players to know it’s not acceptable to lose to hearts.
mcfly
17-04-2022, 08:11 AM
Second half showing was fantastic. The issue is that should be the standard performance.
This comment to me is what is wrong with our support.
Fantastic performance and how many shots on goal did we have?
Winston Ingram
17-04-2022, 08:12 AM
Second half showing was fantastic. The issue is that should be the standard performance.
Jesus Christ🥴
Jones28
17-04-2022, 08:13 AM
Should we not put effort in?
It’s the minimum that should be expected week in week out.
bigwheel
17-04-2022, 08:14 AM
This comment to me is what is wrong with our support.
Fantastic performance and how many shots on goal did we have?
Eleven
flash
17-04-2022, 08:16 AM
Could have played for hours and we weren’t scoring a second.
Edited for those who can’t extrapolate the fairly obvious point.
Edited because you were talking pish.
franck sauzee
17-04-2022, 08:18 AM
Thought the players gave everything they had. In Newell's case he was too committed. This 3-4-3 just doesn't work for us. Everytime an advanced player gets the ball they're 30 yards from goal and isolated. We only looked like scoring from corners. He'll get until next season no doubt but I've got zero faith in Maloney. He's not a manager
wookie70
17-04-2022, 08:35 AM
Thought the players gave everything they had. In Newell's case he was too committed. This 3-4-3 just doesn't work for us. Everytime an advanced player gets the ball they're 30 yards from goal and isolated. We only looked like scoring from corners. He'll get until next season no doubt but I've got zero faith in Maloney. He's not a manager
Maloney said he had asked the players to play on the edge and be as physical as possible. Newell went over the line but to his credit Maloney rightly took some of the blame. We have been so timid in previous games not easy for players to change that style in one game. Perhaps the biggest positive is that Maloney had a new game plan and the players bought into it.
franck sauzee
17-04-2022, 08:38 AM
Maloney said he had asked the players to play on the edge and be as physical as possible. Newell went over the line but to his credit Maloney rightly took some of the blame. We have been so timid in previous games not easy for players to change that style in one game. Perhaps the biggest positive is that Maloney had a new game plan and the players bought into it.
In fairness he did chance the shape a little yesterday but all the play is so far from goal
Would have been better with Griffiths and Cummings up top
Well yes pretty much.
Hibs90
17-04-2022, 08:48 AM
Should we not put effort in?
Nobody said that.
But we lost against them at Hampden. Again.
Northernhibee
17-04-2022, 08:50 AM
20th minute - Hearts get a free kick. Well worked and rehearsed training ground piece, we fall asleep, ends up in the top corner.
97th minute we get one and Jasper puts a tame shot a mile away the corner and it’s an easy, easy save for their goalie.
It sums it up so well.
mcfly
17-04-2022, 08:51 AM
People seem happy because we put ‘effort’ in.
Complete loser mentality and needs changed.
Correct we just lost 2 derbies in a week and folk
Are happy we competed with some added effort.
That’s a minimum requirement for someone doing what is their job.
End of day we lost again in a big game. That has to change so new personnel are needed and the losers moved on.
B.H.F.C
17-04-2022, 08:53 AM
20th minute - Hearts get a free kick. Well worked and rehearsed training ground piece, we fall asleep, ends up in the top corner.
97th minute we get one and Jasper puts a tame shot a mile away the corner and it’s an easy, easy save for their goalie.
It sums it up so well.
Funnily, Kingsley said they’ve never practiced that free kick once. Just player showing a bit of imagination, no danger any of ours would do something like that.
blackpoolhibs
17-04-2022, 08:57 AM
Funnily, Kingsley said they’ve never practiced that free kick once. Just player showing a bit of imagination, no danger any of ours would do something like that.
Well im sure i watched him say on sky sports its something they worked on in training.
Should we not put effort in?
Now your just being difficult and provocative :greengrin
B.H.F.C
17-04-2022, 09:02 AM
Well im sure i watched him say on sky sports its something they worked on in training.
Kingsley said: “I have not practiced that free-kick, not once.
"It was actually planned for Barrie McKay if we got one on his side of the park.
“We felt confident about it working, but when we got it on my side and it was way too far out for me to hit, so we had a quick word and I worked it with Boycey.
Paulie Walnuts
17-04-2022, 09:03 AM
Kingsley said: “I have not practiced that free-kick, not once.
"It was actually planned for Barrie McKay if we got one on his side of the park.
“We felt confident about it working, but when we got it on my side and it was way too far out for me to hit, so we had a quick word and I worked it with Boycey.
So it wasn’t off the cuff then. It was planned, just not for him but everyone knew what they were doing with it.
Paulie Walnuts
17-04-2022, 09:04 AM
20th minute - Hearts get a free kick. Well worked and rehearsed training ground piece, we fall asleep, ends up in the top corner.
97th minute we get one and Jasper puts a tame shot a mile away the corner and it’s an easy, easy save for their goalie.
It sums it up so well.
Aye you’re right. Why did Jasper not think to score his one? What an idiot he is.
B.H.F.C
17-04-2022, 09:07 AM
So it wasn’t off the cuff then. It was planned, just not for him but everyone knew what they were doing with it.
Aye but the point is the players were able to work out what they needed to do at the time and adapt it a bit. We’ve nobody that would do anything like that. No flair, no imagination or whatever.
Northernhibee
17-04-2022, 09:19 AM
Aye you’re right. Why did Jasper not think to score his one? What an idiot he is.
It was a ****ing pathetic effort, and you know it. It was timid and into the arms of the goalie with no direction or pace. A twelve year old could have done better - quite literally.
We should have been coached and drilled for moments like that in the game. We meekly gave up a golden chance.
Northernhibee
17-04-2022, 09:21 AM
Kingsley said: “I have not practiced that free-kick, not once.
"It was actually planned for Barrie McKay if we got one on his side of the park.
“We felt confident about it working, but when we got it on my side and it was way too far out for me to hit, so we had a quick word and I worked it with Boycey.
So it was planned, just not for that player.
And that’s what we should be doing. Have plans in place for critical moments in the game and also a plan B, C, D, E and F.
We don’t even have a plan A under Maloney. One league win in 2022. An identical win, lose and draw record to Butcher.
Why on Earth can’t people see it? He’s quite literally up there in the debate for worst ever Hibs managers. Should have been gone weeks ago.
B.H.F.C
17-04-2022, 09:23 AM
It was a ****ing pathetic effort, and you know it. It was timid and into the arms of the goalie with no direction or pace. A twelve year old could have done better - quite literally.
We should have been coached and drilled for moments like that in the game. We meekly gave up a golden chance.
For all his faults, I don’t think Maloney can do much differently there. We just don’t have the players to execute it. I think the bench actually knew that as well because, despite the position, they were trying to tell them to put it in the box rather than shoot.
JimBHibees
17-04-2022, 09:25 AM
I thought we played better but created very little and never really looked like scoring from open play.
Apart from when we did.
B.H.F.C
17-04-2022, 09:26 AM
So it was planned, just not for that player.
And that’s what we should be doing. Have plans in place for critical moments in the game and also a plan B, C, D, E and F.
We don’t even have a plan A under Maloney. One league win in 2022. An identical win, lose and draw record to Butcher.
Why on Earth can’t people see it? He’s quite literally up there in the debate for worst ever Hibs managers. Should have been gone weeks ago.
Aye but it wasn’t anything to do with their coaching staff, just something the players worked out, adapted and executed. And it’s kind of handy when you have a player like Kingsley who can execute it, we just don’t.
MWHIBBIES
17-04-2022, 09:26 AM
Funnily, Kingsley said they’ve never practiced that free kick once. Just player showing a bit of imagination, no danger any of ours would do something like that.
Ours have done that regularly. Just didn't fly in top corner. That doesn't mean we didn't try.
Northernhibee
17-04-2022, 09:28 AM
Aye but it wasn’t anything to do with their coaching staff, just something the players worked out, adapted and executed. And it’s kind of handy when you have a player like Kingsley who can execute it, we just don’t.
For me that comes down to coaching though. Getting free kicks in a great position isn’t something that is to be unexpected and needs to be prepared for. Not just have your key player for that but a backup or two who have practised it over and over. Even keeping Hendo on with his set piece deliveries would have made sense seeing as how it was so close to the 90 and he’d likely have done better with it.
It shows a distinct lack of preparation for a key moment in the game.
B.H.F.C
17-04-2022, 09:44 AM
For me that comes down to coaching though. Getting free kicks in a great position isn’t something that is to be unexpected and needs to be prepared for. Not just have your key player for that but a backup or two who have practised it over and over. Even keeping Hendo on with his set piece deliveries would have made sense seeing as how it was so close to the 90 and he’d likely have done better with it.
It shows a distinct lack of preparation for a key moment in the game.
What we saw at the end came down to ability, not coaching. Hearts worked their free kick to get it in to shooting distance, we didn’t need to do that as it was already there. Kingsley has scored more free kicks this season than our whole squad probably have in their whole time at Hibs. We just don’t have a player with the ability to do what they did.
Paulie Walnuts
17-04-2022, 09:47 AM
It was a ****ing pathetic effort, and you know it. It was timid and into the arms of the goalie with no direction or pace. A twelve year old could have done better - quite literally.
We should have been coached and drilled for moments like that in the game. We meekly gave up a golden chance.
Yeah, a 12 year old could have literally done better.
They’d have probably stuck it in the top bin with Gordon rooted to the spot. Was such an easy chance.
Either you’ve went full Jamie Redknapp and don’t know the meaning of the word literally or you’re at it.
Sir David Gray
17-04-2022, 09:51 AM
Should we not put effort in?
I don't think that's what anyone is saying but putting effort in should be an absolute bare minimum and should go without saying in any match never mind a cup semi final derby.
Yes we put in a decent shift in the second half but the damage was done after 20 minutes and we never recovered from that.
When the dust settles all anyone will really care about is that Hearts beat Hibs at Hampden again and the wait for Hibs to win a derby at Hampden goes on. No-one will remember that we had a go for 45 minutes, put in a few challenges and had a few corners and chances but ultimately failed to get back into the game.
ahibby
17-04-2022, 10:28 AM
Loads of the ball but didn’t do nearly enough. Other than the header from the corner, Gordon never had a proper save to make.
Thats because although there was no lack of effort there is a lack of quality. Its either the players are nit good enough or the coaches / manager are not good enough.
Northernhibee
17-04-2022, 10:30 AM
Yeah, a 12 year old could have literally done better.
They’d have probably stuck it in the top bin with Gordon rooted to the spot. Was such an easy chance.
Either you’ve went full Jamie Redknapp and don’t know the meaning of the word literally or you’re at it.
I do know the meaning of it. There was no power, placement or chance of it going in and a twelve year old could have put it to either side of Gordon.
itslegaltender
17-04-2022, 10:41 AM
Thought Euan Henderson had his best game by far.
overdrive
17-04-2022, 10:47 AM
Thought Euan Henderson had his best game by far.
I agree. He still wasn’t good enough, though. He is pretty powderpuff in the final third and is nowhere near strong enough. A real shame we are obligated to sign him.
stantonhibby
17-04-2022, 10:59 AM
I do know the meaning of it. There was no power, placement or chance of it going in and a twelve year old could have put it to either side of Gordon.
Why didn't Gordon catch it then?
Northernhibee
17-04-2022, 11:07 AM
Why didn't Gordon catch it then?
He absolutely should have and you’d need to ask him that question. Possibly surprised by the timidness of it.
I know we’re in a bizarre land where people are claiming that it’s not Maloney’s fault we’re terrible because he’s not very tall, but please don’t tell me that anyone is claiming that free kick was anything other than abysma???
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