Why did we get rid of Jamie Murphy?

[California-Hibs]

This isn't just to suit because of current circumstances, I genuinely at the time was very surprised that we got rid of him in January. Sure he missed some chances and could blow hot and cold, but he also scored a few for us and at times when he drove at players and cut inside he was a real threat. He was also an older head that would have been a good example to the younger ones and had big experience about him.

I liked him and still can't understand why we got rid of him.

Anyone else ever think this since January?

I know id have much rather seen Jamie Murphy coming on at the weekend than James Bloody Scott..

[Hibs90]

Cos he's dugmeat

[Billy Whizz]

This isn't just to suit because of current circumstances, I genuinely at the time was very surprised that we got rid of him in January. Sure he missed some chances and could blow hot and cold, but he also scored a few for us and at times when he drove at players and cut inside he was a real threat. He was also an older head that would have been a good example to the younger ones and had big experience about him.

I liked him and still can't understand why we got rid of him.

Anyone else ever think this since January?

I know id have much rather seen Jamie Murphy coming on at the weekend than James Bloody Scott..

Think Jamie’s family are still down south, and maybe he pushed to be nearer them

[mokie]

In all fairness , he was a cracking player but you just have to take a look at his injury record.

[flash]

Pretty sure he is out injured just now.

[Heisenberg]

He was absolutely rotten. Certainly not as bad as James Scott right enough but nowhere near the level we needed. Just a shame we’ve replaced him with players that are just as ineffectual. His performance in the league cup final was shameful.

Hallberg being let go was a bigger issue I’d say. Not a world beater but a different/better option than Josh Campbell.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Past his best by the time he joined us and rarely turned it on. Good decision to get rid

[Mr. Wonderful]

Cos he's dugmeat

Still has one of our best minutes to goals/assists this season. Along with another creative player that we have sitting on the bench every week watching players less able than him run around a lot.

[Mcbizz1998]

An ancient, permanently injured, Hun, huddy!

[BoomtownHibees]

Felt like the right decision at the time. In hindsight I reckon he would have offered more than what we are getting from the current lot

[MWHIBBIES]

Far better option than Scott.

[Hibs90]

Still has one of our best minutes to goals/assists this season. Along with another creative player that we have sitting on the bench every week watching players less able than him run around a lot.

Says it all that really.

[BILLYHIBS]

Gash

[The Modfather]

Still has one of our best minutes to goals/assists this season. Along with another creative player that we have sitting on the bench every week watching players less able than him run around a lot.

I don’t mean to pick on you specifically, and the goals to minutes stat has its place but it can also paper over the cracks of the overall record. If Wikipedia and BBC site are correct those goals/assists to minutes this season are 1 assist and 3 goals. One of which was against that team from Andora. To add to the 2 goals he scored last season.

An output of 5 goals in a season and a half from one of our, presumably, top earners and experienced players is abysmal. He was a poor signing and terrible value for money IMO. He’s as accountable as anyone for our struggles this season. Despite the failings of January I’m still happy to have moved him on.

[madhatter]

Signings like Murphy are exactly the reason we are where we are.


Injury prone
No real career desire/drive
Not really a character to inspire


Hibs signing policy looks to be based on 2 categories


Down in the dumps through injury or other circumstance
Young prospect

[JXM73]

Because he's pish

[Allant1981]

Cos he's dugmeat

He really wasnt

[BILLYHIBS]

Can’t help but think of his performance in the second half of the Scottish League Cup Final

Dearie me !

A waste of a jersey

[Bostonhibby]

We didn't have enough treatment tables at east mains so something had to give?

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[Hibernia&Alba]

Cos he's dugmeat


Gash


Because he's pish

That will be that then :greengrin

[Broken Gnome]

He really wasn't as pish as some people make out, was a least a bit unpredictable and could be difficult to defend against.

But.

The final and his general form around that time was pish, he was probably the source of ever diminishing returns, and letting him go was perfectly fine if we replaced him properly.

[MWHIBBIES]

Signings like Murphy are exactly the reason we are where we are.


Injury prone
No real career desire/drive
Not really a character to inspire


Hibs signing policy looks to be based on 2 categories


Down in the dumps through injury or other circumstance
Young prospect


Jamie Murphy was fit and playing every week for over a decade. The idea we should've seen his injuries coming is rubbish. He had one bad injury.

[Hermit Crab]

He's a sick note.

[ShinyFantastic]

Cause he was dreadful

[percy veer]

Heart of a mouse who couldn't kick a ball with any anger to get it over the line .

[hibbyfraelibby]

Murphy, Gogic and Hallberg would have been better than what we've rnded up with.

[Since90+2]

Going even further back getting rid of Horgan in hindsight was the wrong decision. He'd walk into the side now.

[blackpoolhibs]

We let him go so we could replace him with better.

[madhatter]

Jamie Murphy was fit and playing every week for over a decade. The idea we should've seen his injuries coming is rubbish. He had one bad injury.

One bad injury before we signed him.

Much like Magennis.

We're taking a risk in the hope these bad injuries to good players can be fixed.

[Smartie]

In no particular order…

1. Because he was often injured and didn’t make it onto the pitch often enough.
2. When he made it onto the pitch, he was generally not good enough.
3. He was one of our higher earners and losing him should have freed up a decent wage for someone else.
4. He didn’t really fit into Maloneyball anywhere.
5. He was very keen to leave.

[PolmontHibby]

Still has one of our best minutes to goals/assists this season. Along with another creative player that we have sitting on the bench every week watching players less able than him run around a lot.

Correct - I like facts more than opinions, and he had more impact per minutes played than most of the squad,


Unfortunately he was injury prone, out again with hamstring at Mansfield.

[hibee1875]

Missed an unreal amount of sitters that would have been game winners.

Always injured.

[Hibees1973]

The League Cup Final against Celtic finished him for me at Hibs.

He had numerous opportunities one on one against the Celtic full back, particularly in the second half, and every time he stopped then passed the ball sideways or backwards.

A flat footed, slow winger who offered nothing. Glad he is gone.

[SHODAN]

The same reason we got rid of Hallberg?

[JamesHFC]

I thought his quality and experience was evident to see for large parts of his time here, particularly last season. I don’t really understand why we let him go with Boyle to then only bring in one replacement for the both. Particularly with Scott offering next to nothing.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I don’t mean to pick on you specifically, and the goals to minutes stat has its place but it can also paper over the cracks of the overall record. If Wikipedia and BBC site are correct those goals/assists to minutes this season are 1 assist and 3 goals. One of which was against that team from Andora. To add to the 2 goals he scored last season.

An output of 5 goals in a season and a half from one of our, presumably, top earners and experienced players is abysmal. He was a poor signing and terrible value for money IMO. He’s as accountable as anyone for our struggles this season. Despite the failings of January I’m still happy to have moved him on.

His goals and assists to minutes on the pitch is among our highest this season, to this day. He left in January.

Perfect player? Hell no. Did we need better? Probably. Would he be an improvement on what we have now? Absolutely.

The decision to let him go and keep James Scott is baffling.

[at last 61]

James Scott was a 1 year loan obviously hibs are paying part of his Wages, and to be brutally honest he is playing pish so his club would not want him back early, really don't see why maloney puts him on as a sub

[Spike Mandela]

He was finished.

[LaMotta]

He was finished.

But still more effective than some of the options we have now.

[Tambo]

He was with injured or played poor. He did have the odd good game but from his background and wage we expected more.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Because he isnt very good

[JimBHibees]

Felt like the right decision at the time. In hindsight I reckon he would have offered more than what we are getting from the current lot

Agree thought he was a decent goal threat however no getting way from his injury record. Personally would have kept him to the end of the season given how young the players coming in are.

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

We’d have been better off with Eddie Murphy.

[Cat Stanton]

The League Cup Final against Celtic finished him for me at Hibs.

He had numerous opportunities one on one against the Celtic full back, particularly in the second half, and every time he stopped then passed the ball sideways or backwards.

A flat footed, slow winger who offered nothing. Glad he is gone.

Me too. Awful, awful player for us.

[Bobby's Cinema]

Me too. Awful, awful player for us.
He was hit and miss certainly but far from awful. If he was on our bench right now he'd instantly become our best sub. It was just another recent deal that didn't seem to make alot of sense with an already thin squad.

[BILLYHIBS]

Only had the one trick and if it worked he didn’t have the pace to get away from his man

Great player in his day Hibs probably signed him 10 years too late but probably could not afford him then

As already mentioned in the Cup Final with twenty minutes to go Celtic were praying on the final whistle and were happy for him to have the ball as he slowed down our attacks and momentum

[Col L]

Coming next: why did we get rid of Josh Vela?!

For me, Murphy was exactly the type of sub-standard, chicken-hearted player that has become the norm in recent years. His performance in the final underlined that.


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[jacomo]

We let him go so we could replace him with better.


It was so we could get to where we want to be.

[scoopyboy]

It was the correct decision to let him go.

The unacceptable part is we haven't succeeded in bring in anybody who has improved us to any great extent.

Same with Hallberg and Gogic.

You can't just keep players indefinitely, the question has to be can we bring in players that are better than them.

All three players were ok but we should have better players at the club to replace them, that is where the club has failed.

[Mcbizz1998]

Going even further back getting rid of Horgan in hindsight was the wrong decision. He'd walk into the side now.

Agreed. I never got that at the time tbh. He has his limitations but was a decent option for us.

[J-C]

Constantly injured who only showed in very small glimpses what he could do, also the heart of a mouse when it came to a tackle and never tracked back or pressed the ball.

[Unseen work]

Slow, weak, always injured, offered nothing defensively and I imagine one of our higher earners.

Jasper an upgrade imo and a very good bit of business.

[erin go bragh]

How many goals did he score or create . Jamie Murphy leaving us is not why we find ourselves in the bottom six .
Cost us 2pts at Dens with his sitter .

[JimBHibees]

It was the correct decision to let him go.

The unacceptable part is we haven't succeeded in bring in anybody who has improved us to any great extent.

Same with Hallberg and Gogic.

You can't just keep players indefinitely, the question has to be can we bring in players that are better than them.

All three players were ok but we should have better players at the club to replace them, that is where the club has failed.

Spot on

[LaMotta]

It was the correct decision to let him go.

The unacceptable part is we haven't succeeded in bring in anybody who has improved us to any great extent.

Same with Hallberg and Gogic.

You can't just keep players indefinitely, the question has to be can we bring in players that are better than them.

All three players were ok but we should have better players at the club to replace them, that is where the club has failed.

So actually it wasn't the correct decision to let them go, because by doing so we have weakened our squad for the second half of the season.

[Stokesy's on fire]

How many goals did he score or create . Jamie Murphy leaving us is not why we find ourselves in the bottom six .
Cost us 2pts at Dens with his sitter .

He missed some big sitters in other BIG games he wss hopeless

[Since452]

I think he would have been useful. Especially with Boyle leaving. We have absolutley no out ball without them. He did miss plenty big chances in big games though. Semi finals last season spring to mind. If he had a better footballing brain he'd be a superb player as there is obvious ability there but his decision making was pretty poor.

[Hibernian Verse]

A lot of people citing the Cup Final in December, but I remember him missing that sitter against St Johnstone in the semi the previous season...all down hill from there.

[Greenbeard]

Egg-shell, feartie, and was brilliant at playing hide and seek. Would have been as well in the wardrobe under a pile of coats for all he contributed at times.
Shows how weak we are now when folk are pining for someone like him.

[SHODAN]

A lot of people citing the Cup Final in December, but I remember him missing that sitter against St Johnstone in the semi the previous season...all down hill from there.

And against Hearts in the other semi.

[matty_f]

Murphy was brutal with the expression of a couple of good moments. occasionally looked class but nowhere near often enough.

We brought Mitchell in for that position, it’s incredibly bad luck that he got injured almost immediately.

[Smartie]

Murphy was brutal with the expression of a couple of good moments. occasionally looked class but nowhere near often enough.

We brought Mitchell in for that position, it’s incredibly bad luck that he got injured almost immediately.

Bad luck yes, but he’s another one who has missed large chunks of recent seasons due to injury.

At some point it becomes something other than bad luck.

[Johnny Clash]

This isn't just to suit because of current circumstances, I genuinely at the time was very surprised that we got rid of him in January. Sure he missed some chances and could blow hot and cold, but he also scored a few for us and at times when he drove at players and cut inside he was a real threat. He was also an older head that would have been a good example to the younger ones and had big experience about him.

I liked him and still can't understand why we got rid of him.

Anyone else ever think this since January?

I know id have much rather seen Jamie Murphy coming on at the weekend than James Bloody Scott..

Is he not out on loan at Mansfield? Not sure how long his contract at Hibs has to go?

[JimBHibees]

Is he not out on loan at Mansfield? Not sure how long his contract at Hibs has to go?

Runs out this summer I think

[Nicho87]

Time it took him to run the length of the pitch I’d already been served and back to my seat in the east stand

Sick note.

[BoomtownHibees]

Murphy was brutal with the expression of a couple of good moments. occasionally looked class but nowhere near often enough.

We brought Mitchell in for that position, it’s incredibly bad luck that he got injured almost immediately.

Talking of Mitchell, has anything been said about when he’s due back? I remember after the injury them telling us it wasn’t as bad as first feared but haven’t seen him since

[Paulie Walnuts]

Talking of Mitchell, has anything been said about when he’s due back? I remember after the injury them telling us it wasn’t as bad as first feared but haven’t seen him since

I’ve always had it in my head he’s out for the season?

[Since452]

Talking of Mitchell, has anything been said about when he’s due back? I remember after the injury them telling us it wasn’t as bad as first feared but haven’t seen him since

Was wondering the same. All gone very quiet.

[sauzeelegod]

Saw in flashes what he could do but just wasn’t consistent enough.
Off topic, but I really think Stevie Mallan would have flourished in the 343 we’re playing.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Saw in flashes what he could do but just wasn’t consistent enough.
Off topic, but I really think Stevie Mallan would have flourished in the 343 we’re playing.

Agree on Mallan.

We don’t play with any pace really anyway so as a number 10 I think he’d have done really well in this team.

[SlickShoes]

Bad luck yes, but he’s another one who has missed large chunks of recent seasons due to injury.

At some point it becomes something other than bad luck.

Mitchell went in to a 50/50 tackle and came out injured, not sure what you can call it other than bad luck, it was maybe a bad judgement call for him to even go into that tackle, but we certainly cannot blame hibs or our signing policy here.

[MWHIBBIES]

Saw in flashes what he could do but just wasn’t consistent enough.
Off topic, but I really think Stevie Mallan would have flourished in the 343 we’re playing.

What position would Mallan play in this formation?

[Mr. Wonderful]

How many goals did he score or create . Jamie Murphy leaving us is not why we find ourselves in the bottom six .
Cost us 2pts at Dens with his sitter .

Also won us 3 points with his goal at St Johnstone. He missed chances, yes, but he was in the right place to miss them or make them.

I can't remember flavour of the month, 'all tricks and nae outcome' jasper being involved in any chances - missed or otherwise - recently. He's spent much more time running into defenders.

[Northernhibee]

His performance in the league cup final summed him up. Got the ball in space, could have driven towards goal and for some reason ran into the corner. Attack stifled completely of his own making.

[Smartie]

Mitchell went in to a 50/50 tackle and came out injured, not sure what you can call it other than bad luck, it was maybe a bad judgement call for him to even go into that tackle, but we certainly cannot blame hibs or our signing policy here.

Fair enough on this occasion.

I’m just a bit hacked off that every single transfer window we seem to sign players with a poor injury record who very quickly find themselves missing a lot of games through injury.

Even if on this occasion it was more to do with bad luck.

[LaMotta]

Also won us 3 points with his goal at St Johnstone. He missed chances, yes, but he was in the right place to miss them or make them.

I can't remember flavour of the month, 'all tricks and nae outcome' jasper being involved in any chances - missed or otherwise - recently. He's spent much more time running into defenders.

There's always been too much focus from some people on what players do wrong whilst ignoring that they also were capable of doing very good things. Think its the Scottish way to focus on negatives and ignore positives.

We've seen it with Doidge - misses too many chances: Mallan - doesnt run about enough, couldn't tackle a fish supper; Marciano- doesn't command his box enough; Allan - oooh he blows out his arse; Horgan - he also blows out his arse. It's not quite the same with Murphy but there is an element of it.

The thing is these guys have all actually done some really good things in a Hibs jersey. We've now got guys that don't actually do too much wrong but rarely if ever do anything noteworthy. Like score or create goals or pull off point winning saves. :cb

[Saint Hibee]

Also won us 3 points with his goal at St Johnstone. He missed chances, yes, but he was in the right place to miss them or make them.

I can't remember flavour of the month, 'all tricks and nae outcome' jasper being involved in any chances - missed or otherwise - recently. He's spent much more time running into defenders.

Melkerson’s goals against Motherwell?

[sauzeelegod]

What position would Mallan play in this formation?

I think he could play as a 6 or a 10.

[john rossi]

Chocolate man waste of a jersey no pace soft as jelly, but replaced with similar crap

[Mr. Wonderful]

Melkerson’s goals against Motherwell?

OK, yeah. Those were decent against 10 men. Other than that though I think the very fact that he signed in January and those assists are the only things you can think of, speaks volumes.

[The Modfather]

Saw Jamie Murphy at the Paul Weller gig tonight. I didn’t tell him I thought he “was a poor signing and terrible value for money”. At least he has good taste in music though.

[LaMotta]

Saw Jamie Murphy at the Paul Weller gig tonight. I didn’t tell him I thought he “was a poor signing and terrible value for money”. At least he has good taste in music though.

How many Wellends did you see? :greengrin

[JamesHFC]

Saw in flashes what he could do but just wasn’t consistent enough.
Off topic, but I really think Stevie Mallan would have flourished in the 343 we’re playing.

Should have kept him. His ability to score from outside the box is enough since our strikers aren’t really producing anything.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I think he could play as a 6 or a 10.

He could probably strip up as either but flourish? In this Hibs team? As our number 6?

[SlickShoes]

OK, yeah. Those were decent against 10 men. Other than that though I think the very fact that he signed in January and those assists are the only things you can think of, speaks volumes.

Like when Murphy scored against 10 man St Johnstone, conveniently left out that the only time he done something useful was also against 10 men.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Like when Murphy scored against 10 man St Johnstone, conveniently left out that the only time he done something useful was also against 10 men.

Fair enough. What about against Dundee Utd then?

[basehibby]

Also won us 3 points with his goal at St Johnstone. He missed chances, yes, but he was in the right place to miss them or make them.

I can't remember flavour of the month, 'all tricks and nae outcome' jasper being involved in any chances - missed or otherwise - recently. He's spent much more time running into defenders.
He only set up the two goals that got us to Hampden!
Give him a break ffs - he's been among the brightest sparks from all the Jan signings!

Re Murphy - obviously had some class but didnt show it nearly often enough and nearly always injured. No arguments from me re letting him go.

[LaMotta]

He only set up the two goals that got us to Hampden!
Give him a break ffs - he's been among the brightest sparks from all the Jan signings!

Re Murphy - obviously had some class but didnt show it nearly often enough and nearly always injured. No arguments from me re letting him go.

If it wasnt for Murphy coming off the bench and doing the donkey work for Nisbet's goal v Cove, there is a good chance we wouldn't even have got to that stage of the cup.

[SlickShoes]

Fair enough. What about against Dundee Utd then?

The point in the game where he was told to keep the ball, but went storming into the box, lost it and won it back via lucky deflection and scored.

It was a good goal, but was the only thing he had produced for ages. The game was essentially dead at the point he scored.

I don't personally think his contribution here should be wiped out because of the opposition or the time in the game or a deflection, but if you are discounting Jaspers contribution we can do the same for anyone.

[Shrekko]

Fair enough. What about against Dundee Utd then?

They were actually down to 10 men as well....

[SlickShoes]

They were actually down to 10 men as well....

I was convinced of that too and went looking for the red card but then remembered it was Mulgrew injured after they used their subs when i saw your post!

[Mr. Wonderful]

The point in the game where he was told to keep the ball, but went storming into the box, lost it and won it back via lucky deflection and scored.

It was a good goal, but was the only thing he had produced for ages. The game was essentially dead at the point he scored.

I don't personally think his contribution here should be wiped out because of the opposition or the time in the game or a deflection, but if you are discounting Jaspers contribution we can do the same for anyone.

What about when he made the goal against Cove to help get us to Saturday..

[Mr. Wonderful]

They were actually down to 10 men as well....

😂 Fair. My point, though, is that Jasper hasn't registered a single league goal or assist whilst having people fall down and worship his feet, meanwhile those same people are castigating (an agreeably flawed) player who actually has contributed goals, assists and "2nd assists" in that league.

I guess Jasper didn't play for rangers though..

[SlickShoes]

What about when he made the goal against Cove to help get us to Saturday..

I am not the one ruling out players contributions based on nebulous circumstances, so you arent getting an answer.

[SlickShoes]

😂 Fair. My point, though, is that Jasper hasn't registered a single league goal or assist whilst having people fall down and worship his feet, meanwhile those same people are castigating (an agreeably flawed) player who actually has contributed goals, assists and "2nd assists" in that league.

I guess Jasper didn't play for rangers though..

No one is worshipping him, hes a 19 year old laddie that looks like he could be a good player, surely we should get behind him rather than sit and nit pick that he's not contributed enough when he's the least of our problems.

You would rather have Murphy than him and that's fine, but at least Jasper can become a better player than he is now, those days are long gone for Murphy.

[Iggy Pope]

4 pages on Jamie Murphy.
That’s 3 pages total more than we had on the *****r when he actually played for us.

A nonentity as far as his Hibs career went, less than memorable.

[McD]

He only set up the two goals that got us to Hampden!
Give him a break ffs - he's been among the brightest sparks from all the Jan signings!

Re Murphy - obviously had some class but didnt show it nearly often enough and nearly always injured. No arguments from me re letting him go.


one is also a young lad finding his way in the game, been here on loan for 2 and a bit months, coming into a struggling team with little support or direction from more experienced team mates. The other was feted as a big signing, international, signed from rangers after he’d done well down south, and likely one of the highest earners, and played his part in the side jasper came into being in such a struggle.

[JoeT]

I guess we gambled on giving his wage to Mitchell and Jasper. Probably the right thing to do at the time

[JoeT]

I guess we gambled on giving his wage to Mitchell and Jasper. Probably the right thing to do at the time

Doubled our chances of having someone fit and available.....

[Key West]

Because he didn’t turn up when it mattered against Celtic in the league cup final and is well past his best.

[superfurryhibby]

Can’t believe this is even a question.

[Mr. Wonderful]

No one is worshipping him, hes a 19 year old laddie that looks like he could be a good player, surely we should get behind him rather than sit and nit pick that he's not contributed enough when he's the least of our problems.

You would rather have Murphy than him and that's fine, but at least Jasper can become a better player than he is now, those days are long gone for Murphy.

I wouldn't rather have Murphy. Quite like Jasper, think he has potential and would benefit from the teachings of an experienced head in his position. But sending Murphy out on loan when we struggle to create chances was very stupid

[SlickShoes]

I wouldn't rather have Murphy. Quite like Jasper, think he has potential and would benefit from the teachings of an experienced head in his position. But sending Murphy out on loan when we struggle to create chances was very stupid

It wasn't, it free'd up wages to bring others in. Maloney can give Jasper advice on being a winger, he's probably got much better experience in that field than Jamie Murphy.

[LaMotta]

Because he didn’t turn up when it mattered against Celtic in the league cup final and is well past his best.

Playing poorly against a multi million pound Celtic side, and not being as good as he used to are not really valid reasons for getting rid of a player.

[Key West]

Playing poorly against a multi million pound Celtic side, and not being as good as he used to are not really valid reasons for getting rid of a player.

It does seem a bit hash but in the wide open spaces of Hampden I think a younger version of Murphy would have been more productive and positive.
He is/was a player of obvious talent but we haven't seen enough of it, maybe with hindsight and given the players that are out injured we should have kept him a bit longer.

[Is It On....]

4 pages on Jamie Murphy.
That’s 3 pages total more than we had on the *****r when he actually played for us.

A nonentity as far as his Hibs career went, less than memorable.

Still our 4th top scorer this season though 😬

[Iggy Pope]

Still our 4th top scorer this season though 😬

Changed my mind, he’s a legend.