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Victor
11-04-2022, 12:06 AM
He’s ………..
Couldn’t see a thread for him, so thought it best to create one so he doesn’t feel left out.
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LunasBoots
11-04-2022, 02:30 AM
Just come back from injury, possibly not upto match sharpness yet....
Tully
11-04-2022, 06:54 AM
Cost us goals in his 2 games back and is still easily bullied of the ball
Northernhibee
11-04-2022, 07:07 AM
got over 500 appearances for us, an international cap recently, a cup under his belt and is an excellent defender at this level finding his feet after a long term injury.
Brightside
11-04-2022, 07:12 AM
Was our best player until he got outmuscled for their first goal. He was still the only player that followed it up after JDH didn’t put a tackle in.
I’d replace him if we have better. But we don’t.
I’d replace the whole team if we had better.
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 07:30 AM
Was our best player until he got outmuscled for their first goal. He was still the only player that followed it up after JDH didn’t put a tackle in.
I’d replace him if we have better. But we don’t.
I’d replace the whole team if we had better.
Your first sentence is pretty much a snapshot of Hanlon's career.
Brightside
11-04-2022, 07:59 AM
Your first sentence is pretty much a snapshot of Hanlon's career.
Pretty good career then eh. Not a defender in the league who doesn’t get out muscled. It’s part of the game.
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 08:12 AM
Pretty good career then eh. Not a defender in the league who doesn’t get out muscled. It’s part of the game.
Yeah he's had a good career. I think Hanlon's issue , and it always has been, is that he is often out muscled and loses the physical battle with big centre forwards. I don't remember McGregor for instance losing many physical battles over the years and if he did they were few and far between.
If you could have merged McGregor's aggression and physicality with Hanlon's touch and technique you'd have a top drawer player. The reason they both never played at a higher level than Hibs (although Darren obviously played for a much bigger club) is they both have fairly obvious weaknesses to their game.
angus hibby
11-04-2022, 08:21 AM
Very good ball playing defender and a Hibs legend.
The abuse he’s been getting is embarrassing to be honest. Simms is a big unit and we just have to accept was stronger than Paul in the build up to the first goal. It happens. He’d get outmuscled by Akinfenwa, Ikpeazu as well - does that make him a bad defender and deserving of this abuse - no!
Blaster
11-04-2022, 08:22 AM
To be fair he was having to do 2 jobs covering for Rocky all the time. Definitely should have done better with the first goal though
greenpaper55
11-04-2022, 08:31 AM
To be fair he was having to do 2 jobs covering for Rocky all the time. Definitely should have done better with the first goal though
Been at the club far to long and is long past his sell by date, him and Stevenson need to go.
Victor
11-04-2022, 08:42 AM
Very good ball playing defender and a Hibs legend.
The abuse he’s been getting is embarrassing to be honest. Simms is a big unit and we just have to accept was stronger than Paul in the build up to the first goal. It happens. He’d get outmuscled by Akinfenwa, Ikpeazu as well - does that make him a bad defender and deserving of this abuse - no!
I appreciate everything that Paul Hanlon has done for the Club, but I do not have confidence in him. On his day he can perform well and have an impact on the game, but recently those occasions have become rarer. I don’t think he is a commanding presence in defence and as such comes up short as Team Captain. For all his recklessness and failings Porteous is the better candidate for Captain and should lead the defence. When he plays (which due to disciplinary reasons is too infrequent) the opposition know he is there and he is a commanding presence, something that Hanlon lacks.
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superfurryhibby
11-04-2022, 08:45 AM
Very good ball playing defender and a Hibs legend.
The abuse he’s been getting is embarrassing to be honest. Simms is a big unit and we just have to accept was stronger than Paul in the build up to the first goal. It happens. He’d get outmuscled by Akinfenwa, Ikpeazu as well - does that make him a bad defender and deserving of this abuse - no!
Of course it doesn’t. Hanlon is just under 6ft, Simms is a very big man. As you say Paul has many qualities, but these things happen.
Have to laugh and the post about getting Hanlon and Stevenson out, as if that would help this side.
The team is chock full of sub standard mince and the answer for some is to get rid of two guys who give everything they have when they are playing.
cammy1969
11-04-2022, 08:56 AM
Gona be interesting how we line up at the back on sat with Porto back, will we just swap Porto for rocky there’s a few options that we could use
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Nicho87
11-04-2022, 09:00 AM
……never a captain
SlickShoes
11-04-2022, 09:01 AM
Hanlon is a legend and always will be, league defeats to Hearts certainly won't be the thing that defines his career when it's over.
chrisski33
11-04-2022, 09:06 AM
He’s ………..
Couldn’t see a thread for him, so thought it best to create one so he doesn’t feel left out.
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Should not be captain. Especially after his post match comments on sunday.
Bostonhibby
11-04-2022, 09:12 AM
Of course it doesn’t. Hanlon is just under 6ft, Simms is a very big man. As you say Paul has many qualities, but these things happen.
Have to laugh and the post about getting Hanlon and Stevenson out, as if that would help this side.
The team is chock full of sub standard mince and the answer for some is to get rid of two guys who give everything they have when they are playing.Least of our worries, very good all round defender and servant to the club, a number of factors culminated in us not playing our best defence and we have a manager who needs to properly adapt to the opposition we are playing.
Porto is back and for this one swap Bushiri for McGregor and we have a more solid looking defence with what's available. Stevenson must start too.
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FFS.
He's not without fault but it doesn't take long to stick the boot in.
ronaldo7
11-04-2022, 09:30 AM
FFS.
He's not without fault but it doesn't take long to stick the boot in.
He got bullied for the first goal which happens. He'll dust himself down and get on with it. Just like the professional he is.
Northernhibee
11-04-2022, 09:31 AM
The person who has let the defence down is Ryan Porteous for constantly getting himself suspended and the recruitment team for thinking Rocky Bushiri was the answer.
Porteous and Hanlon are a very good pairing - the technical and passing ability of Hanlon with the strength and energy of Porteous (who is also very good on the ball). He’s not supplying those attributes in the stand however and with him being back this weekend I’m expecting both to be better as a result.
Bushiri is absolute murder and leaves the other defenders to do the job of two men.
As excellent a defender as he’s become, we need badly to stop picking up stupid suspensions. Injuries can’t be avoided, suspensions largely can.
B.H.F.C
11-04-2022, 09:32 AM
FFS.
He's not without fault but it doesn't take long to stick the boot in.
He’s came back in and was culpable for a goal last week, culpable for a goal on Saturday and the leader of a team that absolutely capitulated in a really important game for the club. He was always going to get criticised.
The same debates will still be ongoing about him in a couple of years.
mcfly
11-04-2022, 09:43 AM
Easily out muscled for first goal. Not strong enough
We need better if we are to improve its that simple.
the manager has to have a big clear out as bottom 6 won’t sell season tickets. Sadly lost fans won’t go back to watch this at the high prices we charge.
overdrive
11-04-2022, 09:47 AM
Gona be interesting how we line up at the back on sat with Porto back, will we just swap Porto for rocky there’s a few options that we could use
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I have a very bad feeling Rocky will still be in the team. He’s clearly Maloney’s guy and given Maloney’s stubbornness and inability to learn, I think he’ll play a back three of Rocky, Porteous and Hanlon.
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 09:50 AM
I have a very bad feeling Rocky will still be in the team. He’s clearly Maloney’s guy and given Maloney’s stubbornness and inability to learn, I think he’ll play a back three of Rocky, Porteous and Hanlon.
Rocky is hopeless. The guy can barely control a ball and regularly just punts it as high and as far as he can without thought of picking out a teammate at all.
Given that Maloney has been saying he wants to play a possession based game, it baffles me that he thinks Rocky is the answer.
SlickShoes
11-04-2022, 09:52 AM
Rocky is hopeless. The guy can barely control a ball and regularly just punts it as high and as far as he can without thought of picking out a teammate at all.
Given that Maloney has been saying he wants to play a possession based game, it baffles me that he thinks Rocky is the answer.
Who should get picked instead of Rocky in previous weeks? McGregor who can't last more than 20 minutes? Hanlon who was injured? Porteous who spends 20% of every season suspended? Clarke who was injured?
B.H.F.C
11-04-2022, 09:54 AM
I have a very bad feeling Rocky will still be in the team. He’s clearly Maloney’s guy and given Maloney’s stubbornness and inability to learn, I think he’ll play a back three of Rocky, Porteous and Hanlon.
Porteous and Hanlon will definitely both play.
So if Rocky plays as well that means Doig back out to LWB which would be a positive.
Then you’d have the question of where to play Clarke because he won’t drop Cadden. He could leave Doig out and keep Clarke at LWB but, all that considered I think Rocky is more likely to miss out (which would improve us).
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 09:55 AM
Who should get picked instead of Rocky in previous weeks? McGregor who can't last more than 20 minutes? Hanlon who was injured? Porteous who spends 20% of every season suspended? Clarke who was injured?
My point was more the fact Maloney brought him in as he likely worked with him at Belgium. The fact he's seen him up close and thinks he's a ball playing center half just boggles the mind. The guys technique is horrendous.
wookie70
11-04-2022, 10:02 AM
The person who has let the defence down is Ryan Porteous for constantly getting himself suspended and the recruitment team for thinking Rocky Bushiri was the answer.
Porteous and Hanlon are a very good pairing - the technical and passing ability of Hanlon with the strength and energy of Porteous (who is also very good on the ball). He’s not supplying those attributes in the stand however and with him being back this weekend I’m expecting both to be better as a result.
Bushiri is absolute murder and leaves the other defenders to do the job of two men.
As excellent a defender as he’s become, we need badly to stop picking up stupid suspensions. Injuries can’t be avoided, suspensions largely can.
That I where I am too. Both Porteous and Hanlon as very good at this level in terms of defending and better than that when we have the ball. Hanlon got shoved off the ball for the goal, arguably it was a foul. However he had held his man up, allowed other players to get back and help and it wasn't his man that scored. JDH was more at fault and Rocky, Cadden and Doig also had a lesser part to play. Rocky had about 5 pieces of worse defending than that first goal during the game that never resulted in goal. He is by far our biggest problem in that defence with Doig not far behind when played in the centre. Porteous really has to stop the silly reds as they are costing the team.
SlickShoes
11-04-2022, 10:04 AM
My point was more the fact Maloney brought him in as he likely worked with him at Belgium. The fact he's seen him up close and thinks he's a ball playing center half just boggles the mind. The guys technique is horrendous.
I thought he done pretty well for a period, he's not come in as the finished product and we were desperate for cover in that area which he has provided. His defensive partner has changed constantly which doesn't help. He's had some mistakes and some less than good games, but if porteous gets the benefit of the doubt for still being young surely rocky gets that too? He's played more games for Hibs than anyone he's played for since 2019.
Since he came in and was signed our defensive changes consist of: Mitchell injured, Clarke injured, Hanlon injured, Porteous suspended 4 games, McGinn injured.
I think people are now throwing out our injuries and suspensions as being factors in what is happening at the club and its all down to Maloney. We need stability to build upon and the team has to change every week, so its not surprising there is no consistency.
Alfred E Newman
11-04-2022, 10:05 AM
He’s ………..
Couldn’t see a thread for him, so thought it best to create one so he doesn’t feel left out.
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Just what we need.
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 10:21 AM
I thought he done pretty well for a period, he's not come in as the finished product and we were desperate for cover in that area which he has provided. His defensive partner has changed constantly which doesn't help. He's had some mistakes and some less than good games, but if porteous gets the benefit of the doubt for still being young surely rocky gets that too? He's played more games for Hibs than anyone he's played for since 2019.
Since he came in and was signed our defensive changes consist of: Mitchell injured, Clarke injured, Hanlon injured, Porteous suspended 4 games, McGinn injured.
I think people are now throwing out our injuries and suspensions as being factors in what is happening at the club and its all down to Maloney. We need stability to build upon and the team has to change every week, so its not surprising there is no consistency.
I get the point about his defensive partner not helping but I'm not sure that explains a complete lack of technical ability and being able to do basic things like trap a ball and play a simple pass. He regularly has huge swipes at the ball and where it ends up is anybody's guess, rather than aiming to maintain possession which is supposedly Maloney's philosophy.
OstKurve Hibs
11-04-2022, 10:47 AM
I'm not gonna single anyone out for criticism, I'm just sick of the team collectively having off days and **** bagging it almost every single time there is something at stake.
We need players who can handle pressure, this lot cant.
No one steps up when the going gets tough, team full of saps.
SlickShoes
11-04-2022, 10:52 AM
I get the point about his defensive partner not helping but I'm not sure that explains a complete lack of technical ability and being able to do basic things like trap a ball and play a simple pass. He regularly has huge swipes at the ball and where it ends up is anybody's guess, rather than aiming to maintain possession which is supposedly Maloney's philosophy.
You could say the same about most of the team though, 3rd goal on Saturday comes from Cadden just passing the ball to a Hearts player. Even in the Jack Ross part of the season so many of our issues came from players just giving the ball away with little effort from the opposition to even win it, just gifts.
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 11:14 AM
I'm not gonna single anyone out for criticism, I'm just sick of the team collectively having off days and **** bagging it almost every single time there is something at stake.
We need players who can handle pressure, this lot cant.
No one steps up when the going gets tough, team full of saps.
I think Porteous does to be fair. Said it on another thread that if he was playing Saturday I'm certain we'd have put up more of a fight, we'd have lost the game anyway, but he'd atleast have made it a battle.
Victor
11-04-2022, 11:17 AM
I think Porteous does to be fair. Said it on another thread that if he was playing Saturday I'm certain we'd have put up more of a fight, we'd have lost the game anyway, but he'd atleast have made it a battle.
Agree. Probably would have got sent off, but he would have been an inspiration to the other players, particularly the younger/newer ones, whilst he was on the park!
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scoopyboy
11-04-2022, 11:30 AM
Rocky won't play on Saturday.
Hanlon will, Porteous will and McGregor just might.
Pick the bones out of that.
Hibernian Verse
11-04-2022, 11:31 AM
Rocky won't play on Saturday.
Hanlon will, Porteous will and McGregor just might.
Pick the bones out of that.
I love big Daz but I'd prefer Stevenson with Doig on his left, or Clarke with Cadden on his right.
Northernhibee
11-04-2022, 11:37 AM
Rocky won't play on Saturday.
Hanlon will, Porteous will and McGregor just might.
Pick the bones out of that.
I’d have Clarke, Porto and Hanlon as the back three, Cadden out right and probably Doig out left. Newell, Stevenson and Hendo in the centre, Melkersen and Jasper up front with the instruction to actually try to pass the ****ing ball.
No square pegs in round holes (arguably Stevenson but he’s played there a few times before).
NC1875
11-04-2022, 11:47 AM
Should not be captain. Especially after his post match comments on sunday.
What did he say ? I haven’t seen anything.
Paul Hanlon should not be starting for Hibs next season if we have any real ambition.
Sioux
11-04-2022, 12:34 PM
In the Record piece, he blames everyone else, but not once does he mention his own hopeless intervention on their first goal and his pathetic cowardly attempt to block the shot for the third.
Callum_62
11-04-2022, 12:38 PM
I’d have Clarke, Porto and Hanlon as the back three, Cadden out right and probably Doig out left. Newell, Stevenson and Hendo in the centre, Melkersen and Jasper up front with the instruction to actually try to pass the ****ing ball.
No square pegs in round holes (arguably Stevenson but he’s played there a few times before).I think we need Clarke attacking threat
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JimBHibees
11-04-2022, 01:17 PM
I think we need Clarke attacking threat
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Tend to agree would play him as either a centre mid or more likely an attacking mid. Seems like the sort of guy who could play anywhere. Porto Hanlon Lewy back 3. Cads Josh d wide of probably same centre mids with Clarke in front with either Henderson or Jasper off Elias. Think we would be stronger defensively but have possibly more attacking threat.
JimBHibees
11-04-2022, 01:20 PM
You could say the same about most of the team though, 3rd goal on Saturday comes from Cadden just passing the ball to a Hearts player. Even in the Jack Ross part of the season so many of our issues came from players just giving the ball away with little effort from the opposition to even win it, just gifts.
That was strange probably our best bit of play and they end up scoring. Assume he was expecting one of our centre mids to be there but noone was with 20 yards of it think the nearest Hearts player slipped as well.
TheHibernator
11-04-2022, 02:12 PM
I’d have Clarke, Porto and Hanlon as the back three, Cadden out right and probably Doig out left. Newell, Stevenson and Hendo in the centre, Melkersen and Jasper up front with the instruction to actually try to pass the ****ing ball.
No square pegs in round holes (arguably Stevenson but he’s played there a few times before).
This would be my team, I’d be tempted to start doidge over Melkersen if fit, good debut but not ready for these games yet imo, far too lightweight and inexperienced.
Smartie
11-04-2022, 02:17 PM
That was strange probably our best bit of play and they end up scoring. Assume he was expecting one of our centre mids to be there but noone was with 20 yards of it think the nearest Hearts player slipped as well.
This isn't necessarily relevant to your point, but I quite often feel like our central midfielders are nowhere near where I'd expect them to be, particularly when we have the ball out wide.
JimBHibees
11-04-2022, 02:26 PM
This isn't necessarily relevant to your point, but I quite often feel like our central midfielders are nowhere near where I'd expect them to be, particularly when we have the ball out wide.
Agree assume one of the two should be attempting to get to the edge of the box. Think Newell struggled second half with the knock he had first half hopefully available for Saturday.
B.H.F.C
11-04-2022, 02:33 PM
This isn't necessarily relevant to your point, but I quite often feel like our central midfielders are nowhere near where I'd expect them to be, particularly when we have the ball out wide.
Halliday’s two goals the other day typified what we lack in midfield. Following something up in the box then going and getting a shot away from 25 yards. Particularly at his second goal, either of our two would have been looking for a pass.
cabbageandribs1875
11-04-2022, 02:39 PM
horrible reading on at least one hibs fans facebook page, the abuse he's taking is quite unpleasant
JimBHibees
11-04-2022, 02:56 PM
horrible reading on at least one hibs fans facebook page, the abuse he's taking is quite unpleasant
Players really shouldnt engage on social media faceless cowards given a platform to abuse people they don't know. Disgusting there is no apparent control of the cess pit. You do have to laugh all the chat about people's mental health and this sort of behaviour is allowed to continue on a daily basis in plain sight.
cabbageandribs1875
11-04-2022, 03:23 PM
Players really shouldnt engage on social media faceless cowards given a platform to abuse people they don't know. Disgusting there is no apparent control of the cess pit. You do have to laugh all the chat about people's mental health and this sort of behaviour is allowed to continue on a daily basis in plain sight.
nah their names/profiles are there to be seen :greengrin they can vent their true feelings about the guy on fb :agree:
wookie70
11-04-2022, 03:30 PM
In the Record piece, he blames everyone else, but not once does he mention his own hopeless intervention on their first goal and his pathetic cowardly attempt to block the shot for the third.
Maloney reminds me quite a bit of Lennon. Never their fault and flapping about with players in and out looking for a mix that works.
JimBHibees
11-04-2022, 03:33 PM
Maloney reminds me quite a bit of Lennon. Never their fault and flapping about with players in and out looking for a mix that works.
Think he is taking about Hanlon. I listened to his interview afterwards and couldn't really disagree with it. Good start two pathetic goals then unacceptable
JimBHibees
11-04-2022, 03:35 PM
nah their names/profiles are there to be seen :greengrin they can vent their true feelings about the guy on fb :agree:
Only if they use their photo and name of course :greengrin
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 03:37 PM
Maloney reminds me quite a bit of Lennon. Never their fault and flapping about with players in and out looking for a mix that works.
Maloney is nothing like Lennon. Infact I can't think of any two managers we've had who are less alike.
mokie
11-04-2022, 04:44 PM
Of course it doesn’t. Hanlon is just under 6ft, Simms is a very big man. As you say Paul has many qualities, but these things happen.
Have to laugh and the post about getting Hanlon and Stevenson out, as if that would help this side.
The team is chock full of sub standard mince and the answer for some is to get rid of two guys who give everything they have when they are playing.
It would from the point of freeing up a large amount of wages for better and younger plsyers wouldn't you agree ???
JohnM1875
11-04-2022, 04:46 PM
It would from the point of freeing up a large amount of wages for better and younger plsyers wouldn't you agree ???
Ah, more young players. Exactly what we're needing right now.
NC1875
11-04-2022, 04:47 PM
Think he is taking about Hanlon. I listened to his interview afterwards and couldn't really disagree with it. Good start two pathetic goals then unacceptable
And how many times has it happened ? Yet he’s our captain ? It’s laughable. The guy has been a part of so many gutless spineless hibs performances over the years and guys on here thinks he Virgil van Dijk.
We’re lucky to have him ? He’s lucky to be here.
bigwheel
11-04-2022, 04:48 PM
Of course it doesn’t. Hanlon is just under 6ft, Simms is a very big man. As you say Paul has many qualities, but these things happen.
Have to laugh and the post about getting Hanlon and Stevenson out, as if that would help this side.
The team is chock full of sub standard mince and the answer for some is to get rid of two guys who give everything they have when they are playing.
Exactly. , some mad views on this (Hanlon and Stevenson out being an example) - thankfully it’s a message board - and has no relation to our football strategy .
OstKurve Hibs
11-04-2022, 04:48 PM
I think Porteous does to be fair. Said it on another thread that if he was playing Saturday I'm certain we'd have put up more of a fight, we'd have lost the game anyway, but he'd atleast have made it a battle.
Aye true, porto n daz prob the only players in the squad that are willing to get stuck in.
As much as I love daz I'm not keen on him playing anymore. Hes to slow.
NC1875
11-04-2022, 04:53 PM
Of course it doesn’t. Hanlon is just under 6ft, Simms is a very big man. As you say Paul has many qualities, but these things happen.
Have to laugh and the post about getting Hanlon and Stevenson out, as if that would help this side.
The team is chock full of sub standard mince and the answer for some is to get rid of two guys who give everything they have when they are playing.
I’d give everything if I got the chance to play for hibs, but it wouldn’t be good enough. Much like Hanlon and Stevenson, been here on merit far too long and part of the soft as ****, accepting of defeat culture at the club.
1875Sean
11-04-2022, 04:56 PM
I love big Daz but I'd prefer Stevenson with Doig on his left, or Clarke with Cadden on his right.
Doig needs to be played where he is best which is not in a back 3
mokie
11-04-2022, 04:57 PM
I’d give everything if I got the chance to play for hibs, but it wouldn’t be good enough. Much like Hanlon and Stevenson, been here on merit far too long and part of the soft as ****, accepting of defeat culture at the club.
Exactly. A culture of failure with those two being the ever presents.
Hanlin said in the pre match press conference against Hertz during covid that that match was '' just another game '' That there shows the mentality issue that lies within the club. If your captain is saying stuff like that, then what is the actual point of turning up and what message does it send out ??
JohnM1875
11-04-2022, 04:58 PM
Doig needs to be played where he is best which is not in a back 3
Couldn't agree more. Nowhere near good enough defensively yet to be playing there.
Hermit Crab
11-04-2022, 06:03 PM
A 21 year old bullied Paul Hanlon, a seasoned pro, and made him look like a fanny that cost us the equaliser. He's also at fault for the 3rd goal, far too slow in closing down Haliday and turns his back on the shot. Not good enough.
Callum_62
11-04-2022, 06:07 PM
A 21 year old bullied Paul Hanlon, a seasoned pro, and made him look like a fanny that cost us the equaliser. He's also at fault for the 3rd goal, far too slow in closing down Haliday and turns his back on the shot. Not good enough.Didn't realise age was directly related to strength
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Hermit Crab
11-04-2022, 06:11 PM
Didn't realise age was directly related to strength
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A 21 year old rookie from Oldham. Hanlon has 20+ years experience playing football and was made to look like a schoolboy at the first goal.
Callum_62
11-04-2022, 06:13 PM
A 21 year old rookie from Oldham. Hanlon has 20+ years experience playing football and was made to look like a schoolboy at the first goal.Are folk from Oldham inherently weak?
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Hermit Crab
11-04-2022, 06:16 PM
Are folk from Oldham inherently weak?
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Naw, Hanlon is just *****. Take off your green tinted specs. Come into the real world.
the_ginger_hibee
11-04-2022, 06:18 PM
Are folk from Oldham inherently weak?
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You being a smart arse doesn't change the fact Paul Hanlon is not good enough and has caused us huge consequential points in 2 consecutive games.
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 06:19 PM
Naw, Hanlon is just *****. Take off your green tinted specs. Come into the real world.
See this is the issue with this board. Hanlon is not *****. That's just ridiculous, it's as ridiculous as some previous claims over the years he is top drawer and should be in Scotland squads ect.
He's decent, has patches of form when he's very good and others when he's below par. He is what he is, but these polarising extreme views on either end of the scale are just not helpful at all.
Hermit Crab
11-04-2022, 06:21 PM
You being a smart arse doesn't change the fact Paul Hanlon is not good enough and has caused us huge consequential points in 2 consecutive games.
Spot on, being a dafty for the sake of it. No defending Hanlon after the last two games. Cost us 3 goals and 5 points.
the_ginger_hibee
11-04-2022, 06:23 PM
See this is the issue with this board. Hanlon is not *****. That's just ridiculous, it's as ridiculous as some previous claims the over the years he is top drawer and should be in Scotland squads ect.
He's decent, has patches of form when he's very good and others when he's below par. He is what he is, but these polarising extreme views on either end of the scale are just not helpful at all.
At what point does a player become ***** though? Take last two games in isolation PH unfortunately fits that description. Does he need a season worth of those performances to be deemed *****? A lot of people on the board will happily defend poor players/performances and live in denial that they are infact poor, shouting down fair (and unfair) criticism and shouting 'Yam' in response.
Callum_62
11-04-2022, 06:28 PM
You being a smart arse doesn't change the fact Paul Hanlon is not good enough and has caused us huge consequential points in 2 consecutive games.I just don't see what difference him being 21or even less so from Oldham makes
He's an adult - who's taller than Hanlon - he will out muscle a few defenders during his career
Being 21 and from Oldham doenst change that
Coming from Man City academy and being rated at Everton are more important indicators than being from Oldham
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Sioux
11-04-2022, 06:31 PM
A 21 year old bullied Paul Hanlon, a seasoned pro, and made him look like a fanny that cost us the equaliser. He's also at fault for the 3rd goal, far too slow in closing down Haliday and turns his back on the shot. Not good enough.
Correct. He very rarely gets first contact on any ball into the box. For a centre half that's inexcusable.
blackpoolhibs
11-04-2022, 06:36 PM
Doig needs to be played where he is best which is not in a back 3
Couldn't agree more. Nowhere near good enough defensively yet to be playing there.
For the life of me i cant understand why Maloney persists in doing this, Stevenson is a much better defender and less of a threat going forward than Doig, a simple swap would make is better on that side.
MWHIBBIES
11-04-2022, 06:40 PM
A 21 year old rookie from Oldham. Hanlon has 20+ years experience playing football and was made to look like a schoolboy at the first goal.
20 years, you sure?
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 06:42 PM
20 years, you sure?
That's probably about right, no? He probably started playing football at about 11/12 in a competitive sense anyway.
Hermit Crab
11-04-2022, 06:43 PM
20 years, you sure?
Yes, he will have started playing football before he was 12.
MWHIBBIES
11-04-2022, 06:43 PM
That's probably about right, no? He probably started playing football at about 11/12 in a competitive sense anyway.
Well the other lad will have 10 years then?
MWHIBBIES
11-04-2022, 06:44 PM
Yes, he will have started playing football before he was 12.
Excellent career he's had to.
Since90+2
11-04-2022, 06:44 PM
Well the other lad will have 10 years then?
I'd assume so?
SHODAN
11-04-2022, 07:34 PM
A 21 year old bullied Paul Hanlon, a seasoned pro, and made him look like a fanny that cost us the equaliser. He's also at fault for the 3rd goal, far too slow in closing down Haliday and turns his back on the shot. Not good enough.
Jason Cummings had four derby goals by the time he was 21.
Simms was the best player on the park.
Daily Hibs
11-04-2022, 07:38 PM
Big game failure after big game failure over the last 10 years. What's the common denominator? ... Hanlon and Lewy alongvwith the fans for accepting it.They are not good enough and should have been released after 2014.
Oh but 2016... Hanlon scored a fortunate goal at Tyne castle and we beat a Championship side in the last minute in the final. The club should have kicked on since then but hasn't, the club is slowly sliding into a mid table oblivion. Why is that? We still have Captain Hanlon. When will the support get real and stop accepting this culture of failure????
Callum_62
11-04-2022, 07:50 PM
Big game failure after big game failure over the last 10 years. What's the common denominator? ... Hanlon and Lewy alongvwith the fans for accepting it.They are not good enough and should have been released after 2014.
Oh but 2016... Hanlon scored a fortunate goal at Tyne castle and we beat a Championship side in the last minute in the final. The club should have kicked on since then but hasn't, the club is slowly sliding into a mid table oblivion. Why is that? We still have Captain Hanlon. When will the support get real and stop accepting this culture of failure????A championship side in the final
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All do with with luck of the draw likes
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Brightside
11-04-2022, 07:51 PM
Big game failure after big game failure over the last 10 years. What's the common denominator? ... Hanlon and Lewy alongvwith the fans for accepting it.They are not good enough and should have been released after 2014.
Oh but 2016... Hanlon scored a fortunate goal at Tyne castle and we beat a Championship side in the last minute in the final. The club should have kicked on since then but hasn't, the club is slowly sliding into a mid table oblivion. Why is that? We still have Captain Hanlon. When will the support get real and stop accepting this culture of failure????
Slaver.
mokie
11-04-2022, 07:53 PM
Slaver.
Out of curiosity , why do you imply that he's a slaver ???
Reading what's been posted , there is quite a lot of substance in there...
the_ginger_hibee
11-04-2022, 07:56 PM
Slaver.
High level of debate here, you should go on Question Time.
Daily Hibs
11-04-2022, 08:06 PM
A championship side in the final
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How many good draws have we had in both cups recently with nothing to show for it?
Big game failure after big game failure. Saturday was all to typical. Hearts clinch 3rd and put us in bottom 6. Severe lack of leadership.
Callum_62
11-04-2022, 08:20 PM
How many good draws have we had in both cups recently with nothing to show for it?
Big game failure after big game failure. Saturday was all to typical. Hearts clinch 3rd and put us in bottom 6. Severe lack of leadership.What's that got to do with 2016?
You have some points but your extremely biased view is laughable
Lucky goal at tynie
Only managed to beat a championship team in the final in the last minute!
Its points put like that will have folk labelling you things like a slaver imho
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mokie
11-04-2022, 08:27 PM
What's that got to do with 2016?
You have some points but your extremely biased view is laughable
Lucky goal at tynie
Only managed to beat a championship team in the final in the last minute!
Its points put like that will have folk labelling you things like a slaver imho
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The last minute goal was lucky. you have to admit.. Went through a fair amount of players.. Defenders should've done a lot better,,,,
Rangers were playing in the championship along side us that season so he is right on both points...
Bostonhibby
11-04-2022, 08:28 PM
What's that got to do with 2016?
You have some points but your extremely biased view is laughable
Lucky goal at tynie
Only managed to beat a championship team in the final in the last minute!
Its points put like that will have folk labelling you things like a slaver imho
Sent from my VOG-L29 using TapatalkShould be grateful, Paul set up that all important money spinning replay for the last Edinburgh team to win the cup.
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WeeRussell
11-04-2022, 08:29 PM
Spot on, being a dafty for the sake of it. No defending Hanlon after the last two games. Cost us 3 goals and 5 points.
I actually thought it was a fair point. Similarly, you get 21 year olds that are really good footballers.
I’m not saying this boy is the Oldham Halaand, or even that Hanlon wasn’t at fault, but just because he’s 21 doesn’t give a defender the right to get the better of him all game.
Daily Hibs
11-04-2022, 08:36 PM
What's that got to do with 2016?
You have some points but your extremely biased view is laughable
Lucky goal at tynie
Only managed to beat a championship team in the final in the last minute!
Its points put like that will have folk labelling you things like a slaver imho
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Let's be honest not many fans went into the 2016 final expecting much, fans went out of habit as we were just on the back of another big game failure against Falkirk.
With these guys getting loyalty contract after loyalty contract, don't expect different outcomes in games that matter.
mokie
11-04-2022, 08:37 PM
Should be grateful, Paul set up that all important money spinning replay for the last Edinburgh team to win the cup.
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BE quiet.. Grateful ??
Paul is lucky he scored that goal or he'd be playing for Dunfermline right now...........
Bostonhibby
11-04-2022, 08:39 PM
BE quiet.. Grateful ??
Paul is lucky he scored that goal or he'd be playing for Dunfermline right now...........Thanks for your interpretation.
I'm still thinking someone was grateful, even went on record citing the money spinning replay.....
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Callum_62
11-04-2022, 08:41 PM
The last minute goal was lucky. you have to admit.. Went through a fair amount of players.. Defenders should've done a lot better,,,,
Rangers were playing in the championship along side us that season so he is right on both points...
Was hearts first goal at the weekend lucky?
Right, so we were also a championship team at the time and playing against another 'championship' team with probably ten times our budget - to only beat them with a last minute winner was almost embaressing!
Ofcourse knocking out Premiership Hearts was all because of that lucky Paul Hanlon goal
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Broken Gnome
11-04-2022, 08:45 PM
Let's be honest not many fans went into the 2016 final expecting much, fans went out of habit as we were just on the back of another big game failure against Falkirk.
If very few were expecting us to win, we did incredibly well to beat a team that were favourites then? Therefore not really the sort of cup win you can just cast aside as 'beating a Championship team in the last minute'?
This is getting ridiculous now. You can all debate a player's worth, but if we're at the stage where we're now talking two of the most memorable moments in our history down then it's gone too far and such arguments have no merit.
bigwheel
11-04-2022, 08:47 PM
BE quiet.. Grateful ??
Paul is lucky he scored that goal or he'd be playing for Dunfermline right now...........
Grappling for decent analysis, so you come out with this mind numbing claptrap…. Hanlon is far from perfect (no player is) but at over 400 first team games and a Scotland cap, he is more than capable of performing in our first team. He will go on to appear many more times….And until we get someone deserving of taking his place, rightly so.
Revel away though…you’re much more active after horror results…so enjoy your little run of posts…it’ll end at some point…
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WeeRussell
11-04-2022, 08:48 PM
If very few were expecting us to win, we did incredibly well to beat a team that were favourites then? Therefore not really the sort of cup win you can just cast aside as 'beating a Championship team in the last minute'?
This is getting ridiculous now. You can all debate a player's worth, but if we're at the stage where we're now talking two of the most memorable moments in our history down then it's gone too far and such arguments have no merit.
Starting to miss folk wanting the corners filled-in, arguing about flags, and blaming everything on Petrie.
Daily Hibs
11-04-2022, 08:49 PM
If very few were expecting us to win, we did incredibly well to beat a team that we're favourites then? Therefore not really the sort of cup win you can just cast aside as 'beating a Championship team in the last minute'?
This is getting ridiculous now. You can all debate a player's worth, but if we're at the stage where we're now talking two of the most memorable moments in our history down then it's gone too far and such arguments have no merit.
The point is they were very fortunate events, which, when you look back has allowed average players to live on the back of it to the detriment of the playing side being as competitive as it should be. We keep expecting to win big games with these guys. Maybe we just need better players in these positions.
loanheadhibby
11-04-2022, 09:20 PM
See this is the issue with this board. Hanlon is not *****. That's just ridiculous, it's as ridiculous as some previous claims over the years he is top drawer and should be in Scotland squads ect.
He's decent, has patches of form when he's very good and others when he's below par. He is what he is, but these polarising extreme views on either end of the scale are just not helpful at all.
Good post Paul is it seems a good lad and probably somewhere in the middle of the extreme opinions.
A bit of a softie in my opinion and been at ER too long.
angus hibby
11-04-2022, 09:24 PM
I get everyone entitled to their opinion but people honestly believe we could sign better than Hanlon?
Has been an excellent player for Hibs over the years and will continue to have another good few years in him too, hopefully all at Hibs.
Stubbs, Lennon, Heckingbottom, Ross and now Maloney all rightly had him as first choice centre back - guess they were all wrong though 🙄
loanheadhibby
11-04-2022, 09:33 PM
Big game failure after big game failure over the last 10 years. What's the common denominator? ... Hanlon and Lewy alongvwith the fans for accepting it.They are not good enough and should have been released after 2014.
Oh but 2016... Hanlon scored a fortunate goal at Tyne castle and we beat a Championship side in the last minute in the final. The club should have kicked on since then but hasn't, the club is slowly sliding into a mid table oblivion. Why is that? We still have Captain Hanlon. When will the support get real and stop accepting this culture of failure????
You know when I left ER after the Hamilton debacle in 2014 my mate mentioned that perhaps we've seen the end of Paul and Lewis.
Eight years on you could argue both are first picks in our squad which is ridiculous.
Great lads but we must move them on or we're going nowhere fast and will fall miles behind our city neighbours.
loanheadhibby
11-04-2022, 09:37 PM
Slaver.
Daily Hibs is spot on.
JimBHibees
11-04-2022, 09:42 PM
This place is hotching
the_ginger_hibee
11-04-2022, 10:19 PM
I get everyone entitled to their opinion but people honestly believe we could sign better than Hanlon?
Has been an excellent player for Hibs over the years and will continue to have another good few years in him too, hopefully all at Hibs.
Stubbs, Lennon, Heckingbottom, Ross and now Maloney all rightly had him as first choice centre back - guess they were all wrong though 🙄
What is the relevance of season 2011, for example, on Paul Hanlon in 2022?
Paul Hanlon could have been the best player in the league for the last 10 years - does that mean he's got a lifetime spot in the first 11?
Look at our performances since he came back, he hasn't even been as good as average.
MWHIBBIES
12-04-2022, 01:23 AM
Big game failure after big game failure over the last 10 years. What's the common denominator? ... Hanlon and Lewy alongvwith the fans for accepting it.They are not good enough and should have been released after 2014.
Oh but 2016... Hanlon scored a fortunate goal at Tyne castle and we beat a Championship side in the last minute in the final. The club should have kicked on since then but hasn't, the club is slowly sliding into a mid table oblivion. Why is that? We still have Captain Hanlon. When will the support get real and stop accepting this culture of failure????
I don't just accept Lewis and Paul, I'm privileged to watch 2 absolute club legends play for us. Lewis is anything but a failure, he is one of the most successful Hibs players ever.
What about the literal dozens of big games they've both won?
The club kicked on significantly since 2016, finishing 3rd, 4th and 5th in the top flight with both being key players.
Daily Hibs
12-04-2022, 02:05 AM
What is the relevance of season 2011, for example, on Paul Hanlon in 2022?
Paul Hanlon could have been the best player in the league for the last 10 years - does that mean he's got a lifetime spot in the first 11?
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Look at our performances since he came back, he hasn't even been as good as average.
Under rated point you make re 2011. If back in 2011 we were told Hanlon and Lewy were untouchable in a bottom 6 Hibs team in 2022 you'd think WTF has gone wrong.
Daily Hibs
12-04-2022, 02:10 AM
I don't just accept Lewis and Paul, I'm privileged to watch 2 absolute club legends play for us. Lewis is anything but a failure, he is one of the most successful Hibs players ever.
What about the literal dozens of big games they've both won?
The club kicked on significantly since 2016, finishing 3rd, 4th and 5th in the top flight with both being key players.
Right now they are bottom 6 failures. Any intelligent Hibs fan will realise if by some miracle we get through on Saturday it is simply papering over some fairly big cracks - something the cup runs of last two years has done in my opinion.
The club hasn't kicked on since 2016 as we are trophy less with nothing to show for these cup runs where we have had an unbelievable run of getting the best draw every time over a two year period.
MWHIBBIES
12-04-2022, 02:25 AM
Under rated point you make re 2011. If back in 2011 we were told Hanlon and Lewy were untouchable in a bottom 6 Hibs team in 2022 you'd think WTF has gone wrong.Yes, dumb statements like that with no context might indeed confuse people.
If you were told that in 2021 they were core players in a Hibs side finishing 3rd and getting regularly to Hampden, you'd have been delighted.
Right now they are bottom 6 failures. Any intelligent Hibs fan will realise if by some miracle we get through on Saturday it is simply papering over some fairly big cracks - something the cup runs of last two years has done in my opinion.
The club hasn't kicked on since 2016 as we are trophy less with nothing to show for these cup runs where we have had an unbelievable run of getting the best draw every time over a two year period.
Yes, they were bottom six in 2020 as well. Hanlon especially was brilliant in bouncing back and finishing 3rd last season.
Did you actually expect Hibs to start regularly winning things after 2016?
Daily Hibs
12-04-2022, 02:39 AM
Yes, dumb statements like that with no context might indeed confuse people.
If you were told that in 2021 they were core players in a Hibs side finishing 3rd and getting regularly to Hampden, you'd have been delighted.
Yes, they were bottom six in 2020 as well. Hanlon especially was brilliant in bouncing back and finishing 3rd last season.
Did you actually expect Hibs to start regularly winning things after 2016?
With the Scottish Cup monkey off our back and the rate at which we have been getting to Hampden, YES I have expected us to be winning things. But as has been mentioned on this thread, we have seen big game after big game failure with Captain Hanlon leading the side. We will look back on the 5/6 years after 2016 and rue the fact we didn't win more trophies with the chances we had.
MWHIBBIES
12-04-2022, 03:07 AM
With the Scottish Cup monkey off our back and the rate at which we have been getting to Hampden, YES I have expected us to be winning things. But as has been mentioned on this thread, we have seen big game after big game failure with Captain Hanlon leading the side. We will look back on the 5/6 years after 2016 and rue the fact we didn't win more trophies with the chances we had.
We seen plenty of big game failures with Gray, Jones and Stanton leading the side too.
We probably will rue the fact we didn't win more trophies, yes. It wasn't Paul Hanlons fault that we didn't.
Daily Hibs
12-04-2022, 03:18 AM
We probably will rue the fact we didn't win more trophies, yes. It wasn't Paul Hanlons fault that we didn't.
2021 Premier Sports Cup Final.
To concede straight away was diabolical, Hanlon a yard off it claiming offside. 2nd goal, he was absolutely sleeping and miles off it, in fact he had switched off with his back turned to a free kick we were facing which Celtic took quickly.
On Saturday, how many of us were saying Hearts weren't up to much when we were ahead and then we concede right before half time and the momentum changes through another defensive lapse from our captain.
Game management is not his strong point it appears, something that is crucial in big games with something on the line.
HoboHarry
12-04-2022, 03:46 AM
With the Scottish Cup monkey off our back and the rate at which we have been getting to Hampden, YES I have expected us to be winning things. But as has been mentioned on this thread, we have seen big game after big game failure with Captain Hanlon leading the side. We will look back on the 5/6 years after 2016 and rue the fact we didn't win more trophies with the chances we had.
You're drunk aren't ye?
MWHIBBIES
12-04-2022, 03:46 AM
2021 Premier Sports Cup Final.
To concede straight away was diabolical, Hanlon a yard off it claiming offside. 2nd goal, he was absolutely sleeping and miles off it, in fact he had switched off with his back turned to a free kick we were facing which Celtic took quickly.
On Saturday, how many of us were saying Hearts weren't up to much when we were ahead and then we concede right before half time and the momentum changes through another defensive lapse from our captain.
Game management is not his strong point it appears, something that is crucial in big games with something on the line.
Yes, he made a mistake. He also scored our goal. Both central defenders and probably the goalie could've done better with both goals.
What about all of the big games he has managed well? Why do you not mention those and present a balanced argument, rather than a clear, biased agenda?
Callum_62
12-04-2022, 06:24 AM
Yes, he made a mistake. He also scored our goal. Both central defenders and probably the goalie could've done better with both goals.
What about all of the big games he has managed well? Why do you not mention those and present a balanced argument, rather than a clear, biased agenda?Correction - lucky goal
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JimBHibees
12-04-2022, 06:35 AM
Right now they are bottom 6 failures. Any intelligent Hibs fan will realise if by some miracle we get through on Saturday it is simply papering over some fairly big cracks - something the cup runs of last two years has done in my opinion.
The club hasn't kicked on since 2016 as we are trophy less with nothing to show for these cup runs where we have had an unbelievable run of getting the best draw every time over a two year period.
Ltyf
OldEast
12-04-2022, 06:47 AM
What does ltyf mean?
scoopyboy
12-04-2022, 06:52 AM
A 21 year old rookie from Oldham. Hanlon has 20+ years experience playing football and was made to look like a schoolboy at the first goal.
I remember a 20yo Mike Tyson knocking out older heavyweights for fun.
Physical strength in sport isn't necessarily age related
truehibernian
12-04-2022, 06:59 AM
I remember a 20yo Mike Tyson knocking out older heavyweights for fun.
Physical strength in sport isn't necessarily age related
Paul’s problem (for me) is when he’s having to defend on his weak side (right) and he invariably does get outmuscled. Porteous will be a boost on Saturday so he can play his natural left side of the two.
I still think we need a change next season and a new central pairing.
scoopyboy
12-04-2022, 07:01 AM
Spot on, being a dafty for the sake of it. No defending Hanlon after the last two games. Cost us 3 goals and 5 points.
So it's all down to Paul Hanlon that we didn't win our last two games?
If he had been on the subs bench we would have won these two games and been comfortably sitting in fourth, is that right?
Maloney should have known this, oh wait the games we didn't have Paul Hanlon when he wasn't injured we didn't win either.
He certainly didn't cover himself in glory against Dundee Utd at their goal or at the first on Saturday but to suggest everything is simply down to him is simply stupid. I guess it was his fault that Hoff missed a sitter that would have beat Dundee Utd.
I'm not expecting you to ever say a good word about him and that is your right but try and be a bit more sensible.
scoopyboy
12-04-2022, 07:03 AM
Paul’s problem (for me) is when he’s having to defend on his weak side (right) and he invariably does get outmuscled. Porteous will be a boost on Saturday so he can play his natural left side of the two.
I still think we need a change next season and a new central pairing.
Paul is definitely coming towards the end of his career but that happens to all players.
When he comes back from injury or suspension it does take him a few games to settle back down, hopefully he's now had these few games.
truehibernian
12-04-2022, 07:08 AM
Paul is definitely coming towards the end of his career but that happens to all players.
When he comes back from injury or suspension it does take him a few games to settle back down, hopefully he's now had these few games.
I reckon Porteous will see more balance and maybe focus Paul a bit more given he’ll be in a more natural left side. Just need Ryan to play the game not the occasion and not be reckless.
bigwheel
12-04-2022, 07:08 AM
Paul is definitely coming towards the end of his career but that happens to all players.
When he comes back from injury or suspension it does take him a few games to settle back down, hopefully he's now had these few games.
I’d bet that Paul has been rushed back early from his long lay off. Due to injuries and suspensions He has been forced to play again earlier than he should have. No doubt not fully fit or match ready - and he’s been caught out a few times. That’s the context of a professional footballer - and fans don’t give two flying hoots about it - simply
Slaughter what they see …he’s got plenty miles left in him though - still expect him to be an important player next season .
scoopyboy
12-04-2022, 07:17 AM
I’d bet that Paul has been rushed back early from his long lay off. Due to injuries and suspensions He has been forced to play again earlier than he should have. No doubt not fully fit or match ready - and he’s been caught out a few times. That’s the context of a professional footballer - and fans don’t give two flying hoots about it - simply
Slaughter what they see …he’s got plenty miles left in him though - still expect him to be an important player next season .
Throughout their careers both Paul and Lewis have played for Hibs when they shouldn't have because of injuries, Darren McGregor is the same albeit on a fewer number of games.
Others in comparison want off the park if they sneeze, but I will save that topic for another day however.
easty
12-04-2022, 07:39 AM
Big game failure after big game failure over the last 10 years. What's the common denominator? ... Hanlon and Lewy alongvwith the fans for accepting it.They are not good enough and should have been released after 2014.
Oh but 2016... Hanlon scored a fortunate goal at Tyne castle and we beat a Championship side in the last minute in the final. The club should have kicked on since then but hasn't, the club is slowly sliding into a mid table oblivion. Why is that? We still have Captain Hanlon. When will the support get real and stop accepting this culture of failure????
This post is absolutely boggin. Reeking of *****.
Heisenberg
12-04-2022, 07:48 AM
This post is absolutely boggin. Reeking of *****.
It must be an undercover Jambo. No chance any actual Hibs fan talks about 2016 like that.
Crunchie
12-04-2022, 08:04 AM
Throughout their careers both Paul and Lewis have played for Hibs when they shouldn't have because of injuries, Darren McGregor is the same albeit on a fewer number of games.
Others in comparison want off the park if they sneeze, but I will save that topic for another day however.
With the greatest of respect that's rubbish mate, why did Hanlon go off in the cup final? the likes of Lewy and Daz would never have went off at that point.
He can't have been injured that badly when he was jumping about with the rest of the players after the game.
He divides opinion that's for sure and he's neither as good or as bad as some make out but I agree with a few on here that he's cost us big time in the last 2 games and it's been a trait of his during his time with us.
KeithTheHibby
12-04-2022, 08:05 AM
I’d bet that Paul has been rushed back early from his long lay off. Due to injuries and suspensions He has been forced to play again earlier than he should have. No doubt not fully fit or match ready - and he’s been caught out a few times. That’s the context of a professional footballer - and fans don’t give two flying hoots about it - simply
Slaughter what they see …he’s got plenty miles left in him though - still expect him to be an important player next season .
Don’t buy that at all. Stevenson was performing perfectly well in Hanlons absence so there was no need to rush him back. We also had Clarke coming back so that’s no excuse as it’s simply not true.
scoopyboy
12-04-2022, 08:12 AM
With the greatest of respect that's rubbish mate, why did Hanlon go off in the cup final? the likes of Lewy and Daz would never have went off at that point.
He can't have been injured that badly when he was jumping about with the rest of the players after the game.
He divides opinion that's for sure and he's neither as good or as bad as some make out but I agree with a few on here that he's cost us big time in the last 2 games and it's been a trait of his during his time with us.
That's your opinion but I know in a lot of occasions he has been asked to play when not fit and agreed, same with Lewis and Darren.
Regarding your comment re the cup final, simply wow. He couldn't run due to his injury which could have affected the team, jumping up and down at full time is completely different as opposed to playing with an injury.
One of our biggest players.
Made a key mistake but he wasn’t the only one.
We need our biggest players for Saturday. Would anyone be surprised if Hanlon has a top performance on Saturday? Porto and Hanlon two centre halves for Saturday hoping we go with back four.
NC1875
12-04-2022, 08:19 AM
Excuses excuses to defend him constantly.
Its Porteous fault Hanlon was defending on his weak side 😂 he’s a professional football player who consistently fails in his job to simply defend. Weak side or not.
Its Maloney fault he’s been rushed back early from injury 😂
How about it being Hanlons fault for being bullied AGAIN. The common denominator in several big game failures in even just the last 3 years. Never mind him being a part of so many terrible sides before that.
He’s untouchable on here with some folk.
If we get beat on Saturday and lose yet another big game, a derby at that. The same people will be on here telling us Captain Paul should be 1st pick next season. We’re lucky to have him etc
oldbutdim
12-04-2022, 08:20 AM
That's your opinion but I know in a lot of occasions he has been asked to play when not fit and agreed, same with Lewis and Darren.
Regarding your comment re the cup final, simply wow. He couldn't run due to his injury which could have affected the team, jumping up and down at full time is completely different as opposed to playing with an injury.
Three top players who would run through a brick wall for Hibs.
Crunchie
12-04-2022, 08:20 AM
That's your opinion but I know in a lot of occasions he has been asked to play when not fit and agreed, same with Lewis and Darren.
Regarding your comment re the cup final, simply wow. He couldn't run due to his injury which could have affected the team, jumping up and down at full time is completely different as opposed to playing with an injury.
He was running about daft after the game, anyway it didn't look that great an injury to me. I don't think there's any way Daz or Lewy or SDG would have went off at that point, all 3 would have played through the pain barrier which I actually think they did. Lewy and SDG were toiling but played on, we all thought it was SDG going off as he was down at the time and looked spent, but nope, off jogged Captain Courageous.
It all worked out in the end in that game so all was rosy, had we lost that game there would have been a lot to say about individual performances his included, he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Halliday's goal.
JimBHibees
12-04-2022, 08:24 AM
This post is absolutely boggin. Reeking of *****.
Absolutely rancid
scoopyboy
12-04-2022, 08:26 AM
He was running about daft after the game, anyway it didn't look that great an injury to me. I don't think there's any way Daz or Lewy or SDG would have went off at that point, all 3 would have played through the pain barrier which I actually think they did. Lewy and SDG were toiling but played on, we all thought it was SDG going off as he was down at the time and looked spent, but nope, off jogged Captain Courageous.
It all worked out in the end in that game so all was rosy, had we lost that game there would have been a lot to say about individual performances his included, he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Halliday's goal.
Whatever.
You've just sunk to a new low, trying to blame a player if we had lost a cup final we had won.
You obviously have an agenda against the player which is your right.
However do me a favour and don't bother replying to any of my posts.
JimBHibees
12-04-2022, 08:26 AM
With the greatest of respect that's rubbish mate, why did Hanlon go off in the cup final? the likes of Lewy and Daz would never have went off at that point.
He can't have been injured that badly when he was jumping about with the rest of the players after the game.
He divides opinion that's for sure and he's neither as good or as bad as some make out but I agree with a few on here that he's cost us big time in the last 2 games and it's been a trait of his during his time with us.
Of course he was injured a huge difference playing top level sport to jumping when we win the cup. Folk just making stuff up to bash players and the club. Genuinely think some fans get the team they deserve with the constant negative nonsense
bigwheel
12-04-2022, 08:29 AM
Don’t buy that at all. Stevenson was performing perfectly well in Hanlons absence so there was no need to rush him back. We also had Clarke coming back so that’s no excuse as it’s simply not true.
Doig was playing LCH before Hanlon came back , and still retained that position on his return . Hanlon went in to the Porto slot of central defender . Clarke is a wing back ..not a central CH…so I’d think again if I were you ……with Daz out injured and Porto suspended, I’d say it was nigh on a certainty that they needed Hanlon to play the last two games …
Crunchie
12-04-2022, 08:32 AM
Of course he was injured a huge difference playing top level sport to jumping when we win the cup. Folk just making stuff up to bash players and the club. Genuinely think some fans get the team they deserve with the constant negative nonsense
Well we've got the team we deserve now and you can thank the JR haters for that. He ran onto the pitch like everyone else and I'm not bashing him. Just putting some facts out there, Jim.
Crunchie
12-04-2022, 08:33 AM
Whatever.
You've just sunk to a new low, trying to blame a player if we had lost a cup final we had won.
You obviously have an agenda against the player which is your right.
However do me a favour and don't bother replying to any of my posts.
I've no agenda mate, I'm a member of the HSF.
Since90+2
12-04-2022, 08:34 AM
Well we've got the team we deserve now and you can thank the JR haters for that. He ran onto the pitch like everyone else and I'm not bashing him. Just putting some facts out there, Jim.
Why the hell would Hanlon come off injured in the biggest game of his career if he genuinely couldn't continue? That just makes absolutely no sense at all.
Alfred E Newman
12-04-2022, 08:34 AM
He was running about daft after the game, anyway it didn't look that great an injury to me. I don't think there's any way Daz or Lewy or SDG would have went off at that point, all 3 would have played through the pain barrier which I actually think they did. Lewy and SDG were toiling but played on, we all thought it was SDG going off as he was down at the time and looked spent, but nope, off jogged Captain Courageous.
It all worked out in the end in that game so all was rosy, had we lost that game there would have been a lot to say about individual performances his included, he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Halliday's goal.
Just when you think this site cant get any worse you read this twisted nonsense.
Hiber-nation
12-04-2022, 08:35 AM
He was running about daft after the game, anyway it didn't look that great an injury to me. I don't think there's any way Daz or Lewy or SDG would have went off at that point, all 3 would have played through the pain barrier which I actually think they did. Lewy and SDG were toiling but played on, we all thought it was SDG going off as he was down at the time and looked spent, but nope, off jogged Captain Courageous.
It all worked out in the end in that game so all was rosy, had we lost that game there would have been a lot to say about individual performances his included, he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Halliday's goal.
You've obviously never played football in your life. What a dreadful post but unsurprising.
Smartie
12-04-2022, 08:35 AM
Right now they are bottom 6 failures. Any intelligent Hibs fan will realise if by some miracle we get through on Saturday it is simply papering over some fairly big cracks - something the cup runs of last two years has done in my opinion.
The club hasn't kicked on since 2016 as we are trophy less with nothing to show for these cup runs where we have had an unbelievable run of getting the best draw every time over a two year period.
Any intelligent Hibs fan will realise that if we’re to miraculously win on Saturday, we’ll need both Hanlon and Stevenson to play a significant part, and somehow find solutions to the far greater problems that exist elsewhere in our team.
Spike Mandela
12-04-2022, 08:36 AM
Just back from a long lay off and will no doubt be rusty. However, he is our captain and he has been over the course and knows how to step up. He will be an invaluable player for us on Saturday should we manage to pull this off.
Hiber-nation
12-04-2022, 08:36 AM
Any intelligent Hibs fan will realise that if we’re to miraculously win on Saturday, we’ll need both Hanlon and Stevenson to play a significant part, and somehow find solutions to the far greater problems that exist elsewhere in our team.
Daily Hibs is neither intelligent nor a Hibs fan though.
bigwheel
12-04-2022, 08:37 AM
Daily Hibs is neither intelligent nor a Hibs fan though.
I’m guessing he is a Hibs fan tbh - but likely 12 years old …..and lacks much depth of understanding
Daily Hibs
12-04-2022, 09:06 AM
Daily Hibs is neither intelligent nor a Hibs fan though.
STH, been at both Motherwell away games this year both league and cup, was at Tyne castle and will be at Hampden but aye I'm not a Hibs fan. Will take it as a compliment I've gotten the old your not a Hibs fan reply on here, must mean I'm talking sense.
the_ginger_hibee
12-04-2022, 09:07 AM
I’m guessing he is a Hibs fan tbh - but likely 12 years old …..and lacks much depth of understanding
Age has nothing to do with anything, have you no been reading this thread? 🤣
bigwheel
12-04-2022, 09:09 AM
Age has nothing to do with anything, have you no been reading this thread? [emoji1787]
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Heisenberg
12-04-2022, 09:09 AM
STH, been at both Motherwell away games this year both league and cup, was at Tyne castle and will be at Hampden but aye I'm not a Hibs fan. Will take it as a compliment I've gotten the old your not a Hibs fan reply on here, must mean I'm talking sense.
Trying to talk down the achievement of winning the cup in 2016 is not the behaviour of a normal Hibernian fan.
the_ginger_hibee
12-04-2022, 09:09 AM
Any intelligent Hibs fan will realise that if we’re to miraculously win on Saturday, we’ll need both Hanlon and Stevenson to play a significant part, and somehow find solutions to the far greater problems that exist elsewhere in our team.
I don't think you can use our horrendous transfer activity two windows in a row as a defence for Hanlon / Lewy.
These guys should be 3rd/4th choice at this stage of their career. The fact Lewy is one of our best midfielders this year is an embarrassing statement of our transfer policy. Hanlon is done, he cannot play at the level needed for this club.
Daily Hibs
12-04-2022, 09:10 AM
It must be an undercover Jambo. No chance any actual Hibs fan talks about 2016 like that.
I just did, and it looks like I'm not the only one.
For as good as 2016 was for the club it's actually held us back, as we are starting to see now with the untouchables.
the_ginger_hibee
12-04-2022, 09:14 AM
Trying to talk down the achievement of winning the cup in 2016 is not the behaviour of a normal Hibernian fan.
I read it as lack of progress on back of the cup. That is a fair criticism that I see a lot on here - both on and off the pitch. Some of the Lennon period was great, but for us to be back in the bottom 6 two years out of 3 so soon, when the league is very poor, is not kicking on and using 2016 as a springboard at all.
We used to rip Hearts for using that final as a comfort blanket when they were falling apart, to not even consider we may be doing the same is quite negligent in my opinion.
Heisenberg
12-04-2022, 09:18 AM
I read it as lack of progress on back of the cup. That is a fair criticism that I see a lot on here - both on and off the pitch. Some of the Lennon period was great, but for us to be back in the bottom 6 two years out of 3 so soon, when the league is very poor, is not kicking on and using 2016 as a springboard at all.
We used to rip Hearts for using that final as a comfort blanket when they were falling apart, to not even consider we may be doing the same is quite negligent in my opinion.
I’m talking about the poster referring to us being “fortunate” at Tynecastle and that it was just a championship club we beat in the final (fails to mention that club had the second biggest budget in the country). Honking patter.
MWHIBBIES
12-04-2022, 09:28 AM
He was running about daft after the game, anyway it didn't look that great an injury to me. I don't think there's any way Daz or Lewy or SDG would have went off at that point, all 3 would have played through the pain barrier which I actually think they did. Lewy and SDG were toiling but played on, we all thought it was SDG going off as he was down at the time and looked spent, but nope, off jogged Captain Courageous.
It all worked out in the end in that game so all was rosy, had we lost that game there would have been a lot to say about individual performances his included, he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Halliday's goal.
And mcgregor did for miller's?
Smartie
12-04-2022, 09:33 AM
I don't think you can use our horrendous transfer activity two windows in a row as a defence for Hanlon / Lewy.
These guys should be 3rd/4th choice at this stage of their career. The fact Lewy is one of our best midfielders this year is an embarrassing statement of our transfer policy. Hanlon is done, he cannot play at the level needed for this club.
I'd have been perfectly happy if we'd managed to find better than Hanlon or Stevenson at some point over the past few years.
The fact is, we've not. And even now, we'd be better off addressing other parts of the team than the ones where they play.
Hanlon didn't have a good game on Saturday, it happens. There are a few more in his 500 or so games, it happens.
There's much more positive than negative in there, including semi finals and including derbies.
We need this pair on Saturday, and we'll miss them when they're gone.
IAmLee
12-04-2022, 09:39 AM
With the greatest of respect that's rubbish mate, why did Hanlon go off in the cup final? the likes of Lewy and Daz would never have went off at that point.
He can't have been injured that badly when he was jumping about with the rest of the players after the game.
He divides opinion that's for sure and he's neither as good or as bad as some make out but I agree with a few on here that he's cost us big time in the last 2 games and it's been a trait of his during his time with us.
Iirc Hanlon missed the start of the next season from that injury, but yeah, couldn’t have been that serious…..you should have seen him at the sponsors event the next day, he had to be helped down the stairs when leaving! Adrenaline would have gotten him through celebrating ffs!
sleeping giant
12-04-2022, 09:39 AM
This post is absolutely boggin. Reeking of *****.
Absolutely.
Since452
12-04-2022, 09:45 AM
Hanlon will do better with Porteous beside him on Saturday im sure of it. But that kind of tells its own story. A 23 year old is by far our best centre back despite Hanlons 500 games or whatever it is.
MWHIBBIES
12-04-2022, 09:47 AM
Hanlon will do better with Porteous beside him on Saturday im sure of it. But that kind of tells his own story. A 23 year old is by far our best centre back despite Hanlons 500 games or whatever it is.
And for years Hanlon was our best centre back. Porteous has only really surpassed him this year. Hanlon was as good or better last season.
It says nothing really. Messi was the best player in the world at 23. Did that make xavi hopeless? Or Ronaldo?
JimBHibees
12-04-2022, 11:13 AM
Well we've got the team we deserve now and you can thank the JR haters for that. He ran onto the pitch like everyone else and I'm not bashing him. Just putting some facts out there, Jim.
Not facts at all your wrong opinion world of difference being able to play and celebrating a cup win. Dear oh dear
WeeRussell
12-04-2022, 12:02 PM
I was pretty sore and not moving too great as a spectator (not even walking normally) during the cup final, due to playing in a game the night before. In fact, I wouldn't have trusted myself to be playing anywhere near my best if I had a game that day, and may have let my teammates down. Due to what the cup win meant to me, I bolted on the pitch and celebrated with everyone else feeling no pain at all.
I hope this doesn't mean that I was feigning not being 100%, or that it calls into question my loyalty to Hibs somehow.
Iggy Pope
12-04-2022, 12:12 PM
He was running about daft after the game, anyway it didn't look that great an injury to me. I don't think there's any way Daz or Lewy or SDG would have went off at that point, all 3 would have played through the pain barrier which I actually think they did. Lewy and SDG were toiling but played on, we all thought it was SDG going off as he was down at the time and looked spent, but nope, off jogged Captain Courageous.
It all worked out in the end in that game so all was rosy, had we lost that game there would have been a lot to say about individual performances his included, he didn't exactly cover himself in glory at Halliday's goal.
Dreadful stuff. We wouldn’t have been at the final at all were it not for Paul Hanlon. Time for someone to say something rash and personal and get this absolute wreck of a thread closed.
I’ll maybe reply to MWHibbies about something, that usually triggers it.
WeeRussell
12-04-2022, 12:12 PM
And for years Hanlon was our best centre back. Porteous has only really surpassed him this year. Hanlon was as good or better last season.
It says nothing really. Messi was the best player in the world at 23. Did that make xavi hopeless? Or Ronaldo?
Agree with every word of this. I'd add that nobody is a boy at 23. Also bizarre that posters are lambasted when constructively suggesting that Porteous makes some rash and daft challenges, or dare to say that any of his red cards were deserved - while pretty much all agreeing he is a really good footballer.
Yet it's perfectly normal to make sarcastic comments about "captain courageous," attribute all his good moments over a long Hibs career to luck, and blame him for losing a cup final, which we won.
Debate about whether Hanlon and Stevenson are still at the standard we need going forward is all very well. But the comments by some, so desperate to make their point (or get a reaction), about two club legends and the greatest game in our history are shameful... if being made by hibs fans.
Iggy Pope
12-04-2022, 12:14 PM
I just did, and it looks like I'm not the only one.
For as good as 2016 was for the club it's actually held us back, as we are starting to see now with the untouchables.
You’re off your nut then.
Brightside
12-04-2022, 12:22 PM
Some of the stuff on here from grown adults is hard to fathom, and not one of them would say it to his face.
Paul Hanlon is dedicated to Hibernian Football Club. A hibee through and through. Which is something that cannot be said for a lot of the contributors to this thread and increasingly this forum.
Iggy Pope
12-04-2022, 12:27 PM
Happy for you to call me a pr1ck, Iggy, if that'll get the job done :greengrin
I've been due one for a while now.
Only if you also make unwarranted reference to me being sympathetic to Celtic, but be sure to leave the female members of my family out of it or I’ll have to start wiring up the parcels now :greengrin.
the_ginger_hibee
12-04-2022, 12:27 PM
Yet Debate about whether Hanlon and Stevenson are still at the standard we need going forward is all very well. But the comments by some, so desperate to make their point (or get a reaction), about two club legends and the greatest game in our history are shameful... if being made by hibs fans.
But there is very little discussion here on if they are both at the standard needed, without '500 games' or '2016' being used as a defence or justification for them playing. It is irrelevant and blinding most people on here.
There is years and years of Hibs fans and anyone basking in that if they want to - but it should have no relevance on whether these players are good enough for 2022.
Iggy Pope
12-04-2022, 12:28 PM
Some of the stuff on here from grown adults is hard to fathom, and not one of them would say it to his face.
Paul Hanlon is dedicated to Hibernian Football Club. A hibee through and through. Which is something that cannot be said for a lot of the contributors to this thread and increasingly this forum.
Prevalent on many threads my old adversary.
WeeRussell
12-04-2022, 12:34 PM
Only if you also make unwarranted reference to me being sympathetic to Celtic, but be sure to leave the female members of my family out of it or I’ll have to start wiring up the parcels now :greengrin.
FTIP and LTCF :greengrin
*edit - for clarity, I definitely wouldn't say either of the above to your face :greengrin
Sioux
12-04-2022, 12:40 PM
Some of the stuff on here from grown adults is hard to fathom, and not one of them would say it to his face.
Paul Hanlon is dedicated to Hibernian Football Club. A hibee through and through. Which is something that cannot be said for a lot of the contributors to this thread and increasingly this forum.
What's has that got to do with it? He's either god* enough or not god* enough.
The last two games suggest he's not. At fault for three out of the four goals we lost.
*:wink:
Iggy Pope
12-04-2022, 12:43 PM
FTIP and LTCF :greengrin
*edit - for clarity, I definitely wouldn't say either of the above to your face :greengrin
FTIP. I can see a graffiti campaign. Might even start it myself :greengrin
Brightside
12-04-2022, 12:47 PM
What's has that got to do with it? He's either god* enough or not god* enough.
The last two games suggest he's not. At fault for three out of the four goals we lost.
*:wink:
Some clowns on here are saying he faked an injury. It a bit more than if he was culpable for a goal. As others have said the new god Ryan makes plenty of mistakes and you never get this level of "outrage".
Paul Hanlon will be replaced as soon as we find someone better. We dont have someone better right now, and we havent had for many years. He will continue to give his all for his club until a manager eventually says thats enough.
Crunchie
12-04-2022, 01:07 PM
Dreadful stuff. We wouldn’t have been at the final at all were it not for Paul Hanlon. Time for someone to say something rash and personal and get this absolute wreck of a thread closed.
I’ll maybe reply to MWHibbies about something, that usually triggers it.
If you remember the semi final he was like Bambi on ice, he was all over the place.
Conrad was the reason we got to penalties and Hanlon played his part with a cracker.
I'll bow out of this thread now as it seems some people are a bit sensitive to criticising certain players. As I've said I'm a member of HSL and I've no axe to grind against him personally, I just don't happen to think he's anywhere near as good as some people are making him out to be.
sleeping giant
12-04-2022, 01:11 PM
Some of the stuff on here from grown adults is hard to fathom, and not one of them would say it to his face.
Paul Hanlon is dedicated to Hibernian Football Club. A hibee through and through. Which is something that cannot be said for a lot of the contributors to this thread and increasingly this forum.
Agreed.
Some of the stuff on here is pathetic.
Iggy Pope
12-04-2022, 01:11 PM
If you remember the semi final he was like Bambi on ice, he was all over the place.
Conrad was the reason we got to penalties and Hanlon played his part with a cracker.
I'll bow out of this thread now as it seems some people are a bit sensitive to criticising certain players. As I've said I'm a member of HSL and I've no axe to grind against him personally, I just don't happen to think he's anywhere near as good as some people are making him out to be.
Said nobody, ever.
Iggy Pope
12-04-2022, 01:13 PM
If you remember the semi final he was like Bambi on ice, he was all over the place.
Conrad was the reason we got to penalties and Hanlon played his part with a cracker.
I'll bow out of this thread now as it seems some people are a bit sensitive to criticising certain players. As I've said I'm a member of HSL and I've no axe to grind against him personally, I just don't happen to think he's anywhere near as good as some people are making him out to be.
And that means nowt either. There’s loads of us.
pacoluna
12-04-2022, 01:25 PM
Put McGregor in with porteous..one thing for sure is that he won't get bullied of the ball.
Since90+2
12-04-2022, 01:29 PM
Put McGregor in with porteous..one thing for sure is that he won't get bullied of the ball.
Darren's hardly played all season and is a few months off his 37th birthday. Simms would run him ragged these days.
I personally think McGregor was the best centre half at the club for 3-4 years when he was younger and fresher, but Hanlon is a far better option at this stage in their careers.
mokie
12-04-2022, 01:38 PM
Was hearts first goal at the weekend lucky?
Right, so we were also a championship team at the time and playing against another 'championship' team with probably ten times our budget - to only beat them with a last minute winner was almost embaressing!
Ofcourse knocking out Premiership Hearts was all because of that lucky Paul Hanlon goal
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NO it was far too easy for them...
mokie
12-04-2022, 01:39 PM
Was hearts first goal at the weekend lucky?
Right, so we were also a championship team at the time and playing against another 'championship' team with probably ten times our budget - to only beat them with a last minute winner was almost embaressing!
Ofcourse knocking out Premiership Hearts was all because of that lucky Paul Hanlon goal
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I think all that did was get Hibs a draw. The goal from Jason Cummings knocked them out.. :aok::aok::aok:
mokie
12-04-2022, 04:38 PM
I'd have been perfectly happy if we'd managed to find better than Hanlon or Stevenson at some point over the past few years.
The fact is, we've not. And even now, we'd be better off addressing other parts of the team than the ones where they play.
Hanlon didn't have a good game on Saturday, it happens. There are a few more in his 500 or so games, it happens.
There's much more positive than negative in there, including semi finals and including derbies.
We need this pair on Saturday, and we'll miss them when they're gone.
Hanlon was out for 12 games earlier in the season , in that time we had 6 clean sheets.. Don't think we will miss him all that much......
MWHIBBIES
12-04-2022, 06:17 PM
Hanlon was out for 12 games earlier in the season , in that time we had 6 clean sheets.. Don't think we will miss him all that much......
Maybe we'd have had 7, or 8, if we'd had him in there?
Callum_62
12-04-2022, 06:55 PM
I think all that did was get Hibs a draw. The goal from Jason Cummings knocked them out.. :aok::aok::aok:But without the lucky Hanlon goal.... Which surley can't be any luckier than Hearts first.....
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mokie
12-04-2022, 07:05 PM
Maybe we'd have had 7, or 8, if we'd had him in there?
Talk about missing the point. Jesus.
Stokesy's on fire
12-04-2022, 08:11 PM
Paul Hanlon is a quality player and he is key to the team. Without him we are much weaker. The captain status seems to have put him first in line for player bashing.
Coco Bryce
12-04-2022, 08:36 PM
Paul Hanlon is a quality player and he is key to the team. Without him we are much weaker. The captain status seems to have put him first in line for player bashing.
Hanlon plays so much better alongside Porto.
WeeRussell
12-04-2022, 08:54 PM
Talk about missing the point. Jesus.
Wasn’t your point that Hanlon must be sh*t because we kept a few clean sheets without him? The reply suggests maybe we’d have done even better with him.
You obviously don’t agree but not sure any points have been missed.
Unless of course I’ve totally missed it too.
mokie
12-04-2022, 09:02 PM
Paul Hanlon is a quality player and he is key to the team. Without him we are much weaker. The captain status seems to have put him first in line for player bashing.
spot on. Have a look at his performances over the last 2 games. :aok::aok::aok:
mokie
12-04-2022, 09:06 PM
Wasn’t your point that Hanlon must be sh*t because we kept a few clean sheets without him? The reply suggests maybe we’d have done even better with him.
You obviously don’t agree but not sure any points have been missed.
Unless of course I’ve totally missed it too.
The point is , you have missed the point.
When he wasn’t playing , we looked so much tighter at the back and stopped the opposing side creating so many chances. Hence the 6 shut outs. :aok::aok::aok:
xyz23jc
12-04-2022, 09:07 PM
Hanlon plays so much better alongside Porto.
Not his biggest fan, but just back from injury and will know how bad we are feeling about recent things!.C'mon Paul earn that iconic status and shut the mutants up, please! :thumbsup::agree:
WeeRussell
12-04-2022, 09:09 PM
The point is , you have missed the point.
When he wasn’t playing , we looked so much tighter at the back and stopped the opposing side creating so many chances. Hence the 6 shut outs. :aok::aok::aok:
I see. I’ll admit I don’t think I’m on your wavelength so will argue no further 👍
Daily Hibs
15-04-2022, 10:43 AM
Hope Hanlon has them fired up for tomorrow and hope he was watching Athletico against Man City. Felipe and Savic examples of how to go about a big game getting stuck in and trying to find any way to win. A derby semi final requires that kind of a aggression, not "its just another game"mentality.
BoomtownHibees
15-04-2022, 11:19 AM
Hope Hanlon has them fired up for tomorrow and hope he was watching Athletico against Man City. Felipe and Savic examples of how to go about a big game getting stuck in and trying to find any way to win. A derby semi final requires that kind of a aggression, not "its just another game"mentality.
Did they win?
easty
15-04-2022, 11:25 AM
Hope Hanlon has them fired up for tomorrow and hope he was watching Athletico against Man City. Felipe and Savic examples of how to go about a big game getting stuck in and trying to find any way to win. A derby semi final requires that kind of a aggression, not "its just another game"mentality.
Aye a red card and getting knocked out. That’s the way to go.
MWHIBBIES
15-04-2022, 11:49 AM
Hope Hanlon has them fired up for tomorrow and hope he was watching Athletico against Man City. Felipe and Savic examples of how to go about a big game getting stuck in and trying to find any way to win. A derby semi final requires that kind of a aggression, not "its just another game"mentality.
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mokie
15-04-2022, 11:51 AM
Aye a red card and getting knocked out. That’s the way to go.
The point of the post is , that they go into every game with the attitide to do everything they can not to lose. No Mr nice guy or being soft as ****.. That's the attitude Hanlon has to adopt..........
B.H.F.C
15-04-2022, 11:55 AM
The point of the post is , that they go into every game with the attitide to do everything they can not to lose. No Mr nice guy or being soft as ****.. That's the attitude Hanlon has to adopt..........
Using them is a terrible example. They booted folk about and forgot all about the football. That’s no leadership or will to win.
If you’re looking at that game, Phil Foden is an example of what you want from your players.
BoomtownHibees
15-04-2022, 12:01 PM
The point of the post is , that they go into every game with the attitide to do everything they can not to lose. No Mr nice guy or being soft as ****.. That's the attitude Hanlon has to adopt..........
And still got beat. Maybe they should have focussed a wee bit more on the football part
mokie
15-04-2022, 01:02 PM
And still got beat. Maybe they should have focussed a wee bit more on the football part
They never actually.. Drawing 0-0 is not losing the last time I checked.........
BoomtownHibees
15-04-2022, 01:19 PM
They never actually.. Drawing 0-0 is not losing the last time I checked.........
Lost the tie though smart arse
Northernhibee
15-04-2022, 01:31 PM
Put McGregor in with porteous..one thing for sure is that he won't get bullied of the ball.
He did just that in Europe and immediately got himself sent off.
CLASS OF 72 -73
15-04-2022, 02:23 PM
Shocked how long this thread has dragged on and the general lack of respect for Paul Hanlon. The lad is our captain, a deserved legend and he is leading us out tomorrow in a critical game we can still win. Hibs class?. show a bit.
GGTTH
basehibby
15-04-2022, 02:29 PM
Absolute stinker of a thread - OP is clueless as are the other laptop managers writing Hanlon off. He may not be Maldini but is without doubt an asset to the team.
B.H.F.C
15-04-2022, 02:38 PM
Absolute stinker of a thread - OP is clueless as are the other laptop managers writing Hanlon off. He may not be Maldini but is without doubt an asset to the team.
He’s getting criticised because he’s come back and been culpable for goals in both games he’s played. That’s not what we need from our captain in our position.
I don’t think Hanlon is the worst we’ve had and I don’t think he’s the best. He’s a pretty average SPFL player who has been a mainstay in a couple of good teams but also some average (at best) teams.
Every time a player is getting a bit stick the folk giving out the stick are deemed to be clueless. Seen it all season with various players. Newell and Nisbet the most obvious ones. If these players were all as good as some on the other side of the argument seem to think, we’d be some team.
mokie
15-04-2022, 06:10 PM
Lost the tie though smart arse
Never lost the game though did they smart arse ???
0-0 is a draw and not a defeat.. Basic knowledge of the game thanks.....
A Hi-Bee
15-04-2022, 06:14 PM
More slavers you see on here than you would see on a rabid dug. How many games has he played. How many games have the rest on here played in top class fitba.
FFS
:greengrin
Bostonhibby
15-04-2022, 06:15 PM
Maroon balloons don't like Paul Hanlon.
That equaliser before their benchmark moneyspinning replay has to grate. Killed their limited song book.
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Shocked how long this thread has dragged on and the general lack of respect for Paul Hanlon. The lad is our captain, a deserved legend and he is leading us out tomorrow in a critical game we can still win. Hibs class?. show a bit.
GGTTH
Agree, general lack of respect for Paul and all things Hibs at the moment.
mokie
15-04-2022, 06:22 PM
Agree, general lack of respect for Paul and all things Hibs at the moment.
What do you expect ?? He's been back for 2 games inwhich we've lost 4 goals and he's been at fault for three of them........
As for the club , well we are going backwards , bottom 6 football , pumped from that lot last week , potentially another one coming tomorrow.
Off the field , it looks like the owner doesn't have a clue. The CEO is questionable and the managerial experiment at the minute is failing drastically.. Apart from all of the above , it's all going well so please excuse the fans who aren't very happy about how things are going down Easter Road way at the minute..........
Iggy Pope
15-04-2022, 06:26 PM
Never lost the game though did they smart arse ???
0-0 is a draw and not a defeat.. Basic knowledge of the game thanks.....
****s sake
mokie
15-04-2022, 06:30 PM
****s sake
:na na::na na::na na::na na::na na::na na:
Bostonhibby
15-04-2022, 06:31 PM
Poppy thieves type patter on a thread about a guy who gives to charities rather than thieving from them. WTF?
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WeeRussell
15-04-2022, 06:36 PM
What do you expect ?? He's been back for 2 games inwhich we've lost 4 goals and he's been at fault for three of them........
As for the club , well we are going backwards , bottom 6 football , pumped from that lot last week , potentially another one coming tomorrow.
Off the field , it looks like the owner doesn't have a clue. The CEO is questionable and the managerial experiment at the minute is failing drastically.. Apart from all of the above , it's all going well so please excuse the fans who aren't very happy about how things are going down Easter Road way at the minute..........
You must surely be boring yourself now?
mokie
15-04-2022, 06:38 PM
You must surely be boring yourself now?
In what context ??? Tell me what errors I have made in what I've said.......
Allant1981
15-04-2022, 06:39 PM
You must surely be boring yourself now?
Best sticking him/her on mute, only downside is you still see when folk reply but at least you dont need to read the constant drivel
WeeRussell
15-04-2022, 06:39 PM
Hope Hanlon has them fired up for tomorrow and hope he was watching Athletico against Man City. Felipe and Savic examples of how to go about a big game getting stuck in and trying to find any way to win. A derby semi final requires that kind of a aggression, not "its just another game"mentality.
Worst example all season of a team losing their heads and behaving like a shower of welts instead of playing football is not the mindset I want Hanlon or any other players taking into tomorrow.
mokie
15-04-2022, 06:40 PM
Best sticking him/her on mute, only downside is you still see when folk reply but at least you dont need to read the constant drivel
It's her thank you very much..
Weren't you ignoring me a few weeks back ??
WeeRussell
15-04-2022, 06:42 PM
In what context ??? Tell me what errors I have made in what I've said.......
In the context that you’ve bored the rest of hibs.net to death and must surely be doing the same to yourself now.
WeeRussell
15-04-2022, 06:43 PM
Best sticking him/her on mute, only downside is you still see when folk reply but at least you dont need to read the constant drivel
First time for every button I suppose 😁
I fancy they won’t be around for much longer in any case.
mokie
15-04-2022, 06:43 PM
In the context that you’ve bored the rest of hibs.net to death and must surely be doing the same to yourself now.
:na na::na na::na na::na na::na na:
sunshinejim
15-04-2022, 06:45 PM
Paul Hanlon will forever be a Legend and here's hoping he puts in a captains shift tomorrow culminating with a winning performance against the bad guys. We are overwhelming underdogs but its not a foregone conclusion by any means. if we win it is a magnificent achievement however if we lose it was more or less expected. Its time for heroes.
Iggy Pope
15-04-2022, 06:56 PM
We closing this ****ing thread yet!?
MWHIBBIES
15-04-2022, 07:05 PM
Hey, this one wasn't even my fault.
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