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Greencore
09-04-2022, 04:53 PM
What now.
Spineless second half.
Midfield clueless
Defense even worse.
Nothing to offer upfront.

Does SM even know we have a semi final next week ?

Northernhibee
09-04-2022, 04:54 PM
Sack the prick. Kensell too for actively going after him when there were good options available.

Get our Hibs back.

Hiber-nation
09-04-2022, 04:55 PM
Sack the prick. Kensell too for actively going after him when there were good options available.

Get our Hibs back.

Classy.

S4uzee
09-04-2022, 04:56 PM
CHANGE THE FORMATION ……It’s been 5 months, it doesn’t work Shaun

LunasBoots
09-04-2022, 04:58 PM
Midfeilds been clueless all season, the lack of forward thinking midfielders has been obvious for so long now something should have been don't in January same with replacing our best player who carried us for long enough which we didn't do. Striker wise we just don't have a striker with something about him, threadbare aswell.

Nicho87
09-04-2022, 05:00 PM
Ron Gordon master plan too be scrutinised

All this guff of Seville and athletico

Get a grip

Big screens the highlight of the season says it all

madhatter
09-04-2022, 05:02 PM
I'll watch the game next week but this season has been a write off for a long long time. We've been living in hope since before Jack Ross departed.

This squad should never have been allowed to happen. Signing players with injury records, having senior pros unable to play football anymore, signing loans from England (we have bad history on this).

I'm definitely starting to think we've been sold a dream, verging on a lie now.

Club have hired good talkers more than anything.

Stevie Reid
09-04-2022, 05:03 PM
Decision to rip everything up and start all over again in November seemed a strange one at the time, and looks an absolutely disastrous one now.

New manager required, along with a massive clear out in the summer.

Fergos
09-04-2022, 05:03 PM
Midfeilds been clueless all season, the lack of forward thinking midfielders has been obvious for so long now something should have been don't in January same with replacing our best player who carried us for long enough which we didn't do. Striker wise we just don't have a striker with something about him, threadbare aswell.

The midfield has been an issue since the cup winning side, we were never going to replace a McGinn type but we have made an absolute hash of getting anywhere near it. This, together with our over reliance on Boyle, and that goes back to NLs time here points to consecutive, shambolic transfer windows. The top brass at the club have a lot to answer for at the moment.

wookie70
09-04-2022, 05:04 PM
What now.
Spineless second half.
Midfield clueless
Defence even worse.
Nothing to offer upfront.

Does SM even know we have a semi final next week ?

It has all the Hallmarks of our relegation season. Maloney might congratulate the players down rather than shout at them but there is enough similarities. The team look completely clueless as to what they are meant to be doing, we have very little fight about us and look the least fit team in the league and it is difficult to see where our next point comes from. We could easily lose all five post split games and be in real trouble and it doesn't make it easier that defeat next week would see Hearts guarantee a group place in Europe moving them even further ahead financially.

We appear a bit of a shambles from top to bottom with key positions filled by people that don't look like they know what they are doing.

I hope we can get an early win in the bottom six as it could get far too interesting if we get beat off St Johnstone or Dundee in the first game or they both win and we get beat. I could see us crumbling under any pressure and SM will be in the crosshairs if we capitulate so easily next week

Unseen work
09-04-2022, 05:04 PM
What now?

Stay in the league.

The quicker the players realise we’re in a relegation battle the better, I’ve got the real fear that they dismiss it thinking they’re too good similar to the butcher era and then we find ourselves down.

Every team in the bottom 6 will be looking at us and thinking that’s where we get points.

Northernhibee
09-04-2022, 05:04 PM
Classy.

Tell me I’m wrong.

Carheenlea
09-04-2022, 05:06 PM
Classy.

Hard to argue against such a strong worded post though. Many will share that view in the immediate aftermath while tempers are still frayed.

SHODAN
09-04-2022, 05:07 PM
Score's 0-0 at 12:15 on Saturday. Win that and today never happened.

Hibernian Verse
09-04-2022, 05:10 PM
What now? We go again and try to improve on today.

BH Hibs
09-04-2022, 05:12 PM
Win next week by any means possible. The players and staff have got to grow a set and show us something whether that means booting anything that moves and scrapping the playing out from the back we have got to be up for a battle.

Sudds_1
09-04-2022, 05:14 PM
Score's 0-0 at 12:15 on Saturday. Win that and today never happened.

Worst sticking plaster if we do win....its happened before. And we suffered more and more sh$t after i good result. The rot is there...semi win wont reverse it.

wookie70
09-04-2022, 05:17 PM
Score's 0-0 at 12:15 on Saturday. Win that and today never happened.

We are bottom six and have relegation to worry about. Today and the last few months won't be forgotten until we are clear of that. a cup final would be great and would give us something to look forward to particularly as it could deny Hearts a group stage in Europe at our expense but I can't see us beating Hearts and one of the Uglies so the league is my main concern and we are not guaranteed to be in it next year with Maloney in the hot seat.

Glory Lurker
09-04-2022, 05:29 PM
Score's 0-0 at 12:15 on Saturday. Win that and today never happened.

I'm with you 100%. Losing the play off to Falkirk was one of my worst Hibs experiences. At the time. Stopped bothering me in the slightest eight days later.

Hiber-nation
09-04-2022, 05:35 PM
Tell me I’m wrong.

Prick? Really?

The Modfather
09-04-2022, 05:38 PM
Try to avoid a heavy defeat next week, get the U18s promoted and playing and rejoice when we can see the back of this season.

Mathematically we could end up in the playoffs but it’s highly unlikely given each team is playing each other.

Scorrie
09-04-2022, 05:41 PM
What now?

Stay in the league.

The quicker the players realise we’re in a relegation battle the better, I’ve got the real fear that they dismiss it thinking they’re too good similar to the butcher era and then we find ourselves down.

Every team in the bottom 6 will be looking at us and thinking that’s where we get points.

That’s my fear. This has got Butcher written all over it

Northernhibee
09-04-2022, 05:50 PM
Prick? Really?

Yes. I don’t want to hear from him, I don’t want to see his face or hear his “vision”. Not after that hat he’s done to our club in something like four months. He’s an impostor and must know that he’s out of his depth yet collects a pay packet. Games where we’ve barely mustered a shot on target and he’s wittering on about how well we did. I’d say go back to punditry but he’s ****ing murder at that too.

I can’t ****ing stand to even look at him.

mcfly
09-04-2022, 05:59 PM
Score's 0-0 at 12:15 on Saturday. Win that and today never happened.

What a load of rubbish

You really believe we will win next week after that second half??

Today was important for top 6 and a chance for Europe.

Losing today puts us in a fight to avoid a relegation playoff. Who are we going to beat? These players don’t care.

They are bottlers end off and a big clear out is needed.

players on good money are just not good enough.

Fans moan about not selling out hampden. Today is why. These players should be embarrassed eating their dinner tonight.

Rondon
09-04-2022, 06:02 PM
What now.
Spineless second half.
Midfield clueless
Defense even worse.
Nothing to offer upfront.

Does SM even know we have a semi final next week ?

What now? Nothing. He’ll put a team out next week I hope will win but prob won’t.

Nothing will change with us between now and the last game.

Bottom 6 is going to be terrible, and we prob won’t even fin 7th

Rondon
09-04-2022, 06:04 PM
CHANGE THE FORMATION ……It’s been 5 months, it doesn’t work Shaun

What’s clear is melkerson needs a proper strike partner up with him

Real Emerald
09-04-2022, 06:08 PM
What’s clear is melkerson needs a proper strike partner up with him
Trouble is we don’t have any strikers and have been short since last summer. There is no one else, what an absolute shambles of a club we’ve become.

Tambo
09-04-2022, 06:21 PM
If the players can't see how unacceptable the second half performance was then I don't know what will get them motivated for 90 mins next week.

As a few others have said it's times for a formation and different approach as I really have no hope for next season if he persists with it.

S4uzee
09-04-2022, 06:24 PM
If the players can't see how unacceptable the second half performance was then I don't know what will get them motivated for 90 mins next week.

As a few others have said it's times for a formation and different approach as I really have no hope for next season if he persists with it.

I said last season that this group of players will continually let us down. Some squads have something about them and this squad has nothing, manager included

truehibernian
09-04-2022, 06:33 PM
What now ? We stick by the manager and allow him to cull the squad of the utter mediocrity and imbalance created by Ross. Also - time to be ruthless next season and release players who are quite simply not good enough, unreliable through injury, and been at the club too long. Sentiment doesn’t win football games.

Today was predictable when I saw the line up and more importantly the subs bench. Hearts had impact players they could bring on, and bearing in mind they’re under strength, that speaks volumes about their good recruitment this year.

We need experience in the middle and up top, creativity centrally and wide, and to lose this sentimental streak of keeping players like Hanlon, Lewis and Darren ‘just because’ and they ‘know the club’. John McGinn and Grant Holt weren’t lifelong Hibs fans but bust a gut and fought as if they were.

For me - the following should go next season:

Scott
Wright
Paul McGinn
Hanlon
Daz
Lewis
Bushiri
Campbell
Allan

Blank canvas, huge recruitment drive, start blooding young players from a good U18 side. Get an experienced leader in the middle area, experienced striker to compliment what we have, and look at really building an attacking side. It’ll cost money and Ron has to cough up - simple as that - that’s what owning a football club means.

I’m not in the Shaun out camp, I think he’s inherited a very bland, uninspiring squad of players with no character or real minerals. That’s Jack Ross and Heckingbottom’s fault in my opinion. Some of the contract lengths handed out are ridiculous too.

We were third last season due to a poor league, no fans, and no derbies. No real pressure. This season the character of players has been found out. They buckle.

The squad needs real investment and that’ll have to come from the owner, who has himself withdrawn into his shell of late.

Build an experienced spine and fill around it with youth, creativity, and character.

Rondon
09-04-2022, 06:35 PM
Trouble is we don’t have any strikers and have been short since last summer. There is no one else, what an absolute shambles of a club we’ve become.

Yeah I never understood why maloney never signed more.

Even with melkerson when he first came in he talked about his as more one for the future so just say he’d ended up in development I’m really not sure what maloney was going to do.

Is doidge injured btw? I’d b more likely to play whim with melkerson next sat If he’s available

Carheenlea
09-04-2022, 07:41 PM
Yeah I never understood why maloney never signed more.

Even with melkerson when he first came in he talked about his as more one for the future so just say he’d ended up in development I’m really not sure what maloney was going to do.

Is doidge injured btw? I’d b more likely to play whim with melkerson next sat If he’s available

I’d be tempted to bring in Leigh Griffiths.

bigwheel
09-04-2022, 07:53 PM
I’d be tempted to bring in Leigh Griffiths.

For what ?? Driving the bus ?? He can’t play for us this season ..and tbh is struggling to shine for league One Falkirk - so there is no suggestion he’ll ever be good enough again …

madhatter
09-04-2022, 07:57 PM
What now ? We stick by the manager and allow him to cull the squad of the utter mediocrity and imbalance created by Ross. Also - time to be ruthless next season and release players who are quite simply not good enough, unreliable through injury, and been at the club too long. Sentiment doesn’t win football games.

Today was predictable when I saw the line up and more importantly the subs bench. Hearts had impact players they could bring on, and bearing in mind they’re under strength, that speaks volumes about their good recruitment this year.

We need experience in the middle and up top, creativity centrally and wide, and to lose this sentimental streak of keeping players like Hanlon, Lewis and Darren ‘just because’ and they ‘know the club’. John McGinn and Grant Holt weren’t lifelong Hibs fans but bust a gut and fought as if they were.

For me - the following should go next season:

Scott
Wright
Paul McGinn
Hanlon
Daz
Lewis
Bushiri
Campbell
Allan

Blank canvas, huge recruitment drive, start blooding young players from a good U18 side. Get an experienced leader in the middle area, experienced striker to compliment what we have, and look at really building an attacking side. It’ll cost money and Ron has to cough up - simple as that - that’s what owning a football club means.

I’m not in the Shaun out camp, I think he’s inherited a very bland, uninspiring squad of players with no character or real minerals. That’s Jack Ross and Heckingbottom’s fault in my opinion. Some of the contract lengths handed out are ridiculous too.

We were third last season due to a poor league, no fans, and no derbies. No real pressure. This season the character of players has been found out. They buckle.

The squad needs real investment and that’ll have to come from the owner, who has himself withdrawn into his shell of late.

Build an experienced spine and fill around it with youth, creativity, and character.

Agree completely with character.

Look back at who we had at the club when we won the cup. Fontaine hosting Fontaine of Knowledge and signing songs about Hibs, McGregor and Gray battling for everything, McGinn doing virtually everything (being a joker off the pitch), Cummings (being arrogant and the joker). List could go on.

Character is vitally important. Especially if Ron Gordon wants us to become like Atletico Madrid or Sevilla (in culture). Atleti have shown the desire and passion of their manager for years now. That's borne out of culture and strong characters in the dressing room who make sure new players buy into the philosophy etc.

Haymaker
09-04-2022, 08:17 PM
Get on the blower to Cummings agent, see if we can get him back from Oz. Luckily we can get Griffiths for free this summer. We'd have won easily with those two up front

Not In The Know
09-04-2022, 08:21 PM
Score's 0-0 at 12:15 on Saturday. Win that and today never happened.

For us to be in the bottom six is a disgrace.

Jones28
09-04-2022, 08:40 PM
CHANGE THE FORMATION ……It’s been 5 months, it doesn’t work Shaun

Yepp.

Fuzzywuzzy
09-04-2022, 08:45 PM
Yes. I don’t want to hear from him, I don’t want to see his face or hear his “vision”. Not after that hat he’s done to our club in something like four months. He’s an impostor and must know that he’s out of his depth yet collects a pay packet. Games where we’ve barely mustered a shot on target and he’s wittering on about how well we did. I’d say go back to punditry but he’s ****ing murder at that too.

I can’t ****ing stand to even look at him.


🤯🤯🤯

hibsbollah
09-04-2022, 08:49 PM
What now ? We stick by the manager and allow him to cull the squad of the utter mediocrity and imbalance created by Ross. Also - time to be ruthless next season and release players who are quite simply not good enough, unreliable through injury, and been at the club too long. Sentiment doesn’t win football games.

Today was predictable when I saw the line up and more importantly the subs bench. Hearts had impact players they could bring on, and bearing in mind they’re under strength, that speaks volumes about their good recruitment this year.

We need experience in the middle and up top, creativity centrally and wide, and to lose this sentimental streak of keeping players like Hanlon, Lewis and Darren ‘just because’ and they ‘know the club’. John McGinn and Grant Holt weren’t lifelong Hibs fans but bust a gut and fought as if they were.

For me - the following should go next season:

Scott
Wright
Paul McGinn
Hanlon
Daz
Lewis
Bushiri
Campbell
Allan

Blank canvas, huge recruitment drive, start blooding young players from a good U18 side. Get an experienced leader in the middle area, experienced striker to compliment what we have, and look at really building an attacking side. It’ll cost money and Ron has to cough up - simple as that - that’s what owning a football club means.

I’m not in the Shaun out camp, I think he’s inherited a very bland, uninspiring squad of players with no character or real minerals. That’s Jack Ross and Heckingbottom’s fault in my opinion. Some of the contract lengths handed out are ridiculous too.

We were third last season due to a poor league, no fans, and no derbies. No real pressure. This season the character of players has been found out. They buckle.

The squad needs real investment and that’ll have to come from the owner, who has himself withdrawn into his shell of late.

Build an experienced spine and fill around it with youth, creativity, and character.

Very good post. I would personally keep Lewis if he wants to stay but that doesn’t detract from everything else which I agree with 100%.

Hibee Mac
09-04-2022, 08:56 PM
Start by binning Ron Gordon's son and hire an experienced head of player recruitment.

No one likes nepotism and this was a red flag at the time. Zero experience and he just walks into head of recruitment? Surprise more hasn't been made of this but it's a disgrace.

GreenCastle
09-04-2022, 08:59 PM
Agree completely with character.

Look back at who we had at the club when we won the cup. Fontaine hosting Fontaine of Knowledge and signing songs about Hibs, McGregor and Gray battling for everything, McGinn doing virtually everything (being a joker off the pitch), Cummings (being arrogant and the joker). List could go on.

Character is vitally important. Especially if Ron Gordon wants us to become like Atletico Madrid or Sevilla (in culture). Atleti have shown the desire and passion of their manager for years now. That's borne out of culture and strong characters in the dressing room who make sure new players buy into the philosophy etc.

We seriously lack characters and leaders.

Getting rid of players like Bartley etc we just haven’t replaced them.

Should be top of the recruitment drive but ideally a new manager who also shows some sort of passion to unite the crowd without being a complete nutter.

Callum_62
09-04-2022, 09:12 PM
Start by binning Ron Gordon's son and hire an experienced head of player recruitment.

No one likes nepotism and this was a red flag at the time. Zero experience and he just walks into head of recruitment? Surprise more hasn't been made of this but it's a disgrace.What is his remit? Any idea?

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Paulie Walnuts
09-04-2022, 09:22 PM
What now ? We stick by the manager and allow him to cull the squad of the utter mediocrity and imbalance created by Ross. Also - time to be ruthless next season and release players who are quite simply not good enough, unreliable through injury, and been at the club too long. Sentiment doesn’t win football games.

Today was predictable when I saw the line up and more importantly the subs bench. Hearts had impact players they could bring on, and bearing in mind they’re under strength, that speaks volumes about their good recruitment this year.

We need experience in the middle and up top, creativity centrally and wide, and to lose this sentimental streak of keeping players like Hanlon, Lewis and Darren ‘just because’ and they ‘know the club’. John McGinn and Grant Holt weren’t lifelong Hibs fans but bust a gut and fought as if they were.

For me - the following should go next season:

Scott
Wright
Paul McGinn
Hanlon
Daz
Lewis
Bushiri
Campbell
Allan

Blank canvas, huge recruitment drive, start blooding young players from a good U18 side. Get an experienced leader in the middle area, experienced striker to compliment what we have, and look at really building an attacking side. It’ll cost money and Ron has to cough up - simple as that - that’s what owning a football club means.

I’m not in the Shaun out camp, I think he’s inherited a very bland, uninspiring squad of players with no character or real minerals. That’s Jack Ross and Heckingbottom’s fault in my opinion. Some of the contract lengths handed out are ridiculous too.

We were third last season due to a poor league, no fans, and no derbies. No real pressure. This season the character of players has been found out. They buckle.

The squad needs real investment and that’ll have to come from the owner, who has himself withdrawn into his shell of late.

Build an experienced spine and fill around it with youth, creativity, and character.

I would agree but I’d also throw:

Macey
Henderson
Rocky
Jasper
JDH

Into the mix. I’m aware we can’t get rid of them all but they’re all dragging us down imo.

The lack of character in this squad is making it impossible to get results and impossible to engage with them. Two things which make good season ticket uptake also impossible.

NAE NOOKIE
09-04-2022, 09:25 PM
Worst sticking plaster if we do win....its happened before. And we suffered more and more sh$t after i good result. The rot is there...semi win wont reverse it.

No it wont reverse it, but it will buy us time. Lose that game and all we have left is a battle to avoid a play off spot and even if we do that it will not spare us from 5 year low ST sales and an inability to bring in new players of any quality.

Win that semi final and we at least keep the season going until the end of May with the proceeds from a cup final in the coffers, not to mention that such a positive semi final result might just keep a few ST holders on board. Lose it and we have a 3 to 4 year rebuilding job on our hands with questions to be asked about a new management team as well.

Believe me if winning next Saturday fools the owners of this club into thinking they don't have a massive rebuilding job on their hands then they have no business being anywhere near it, win or lose it's staring them in the face. Even so, losing it will magnify every ill we have just now a hundred fold, we need to win this game.

Sir David Gray
09-04-2022, 09:26 PM
I'd personally play the big guns next week and then also in our first post-split match and if we win it I'd be playing the youth team in the last four matches.

madhatter
09-04-2022, 09:30 PM
It has been said that summer targets have been spoken to, The rebuild has started with Shaun at the centre.
So, maybe anything this season, with the current group of players is a bonus.
The real Hibs, the planned Hibs, the planned team, set up and style we’re never going to be here this season.
Next season though!

Pity most of the loan to buy option players we got in January look average then. Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence over any rebuild.

chasitup
09-04-2022, 09:33 PM
I'd personally play the big guns next week and then also in our first post-split match and if we win it I'd be playing the youth team in the last four matches.
What big guns do we have?

loanheadhibby
09-04-2022, 10:04 PM
I'd personally play the big guns next week and then also in our first post-split match and if we win it I'd be playing the youth team in the last four matches.
Big guns?

Sir David Gray
09-04-2022, 10:07 PM
What big guns do we have?

Yes our first XI (so basically today's team) and then if we win our first game I'd be playing Josh O'Connor etc for the last four games.

Col2
09-04-2022, 10:14 PM
Limited choices but:-

Change formation.

Porteous and Stevenson in back four with Cadden and Hanlon.

Midfield must change. I would put Clarke in beside Newell to give us some strength. I would have Henderson is for some energy and to support Melkerson and Jasper.

If Doidge fit I would even consider starting to try and hold up ball and Melkerson off him.

We have limited hope but we need to change it big time.

Rondon
10-04-2022, 08:43 AM
Limited choices but:-

Change formation.

Porteous and Stevenson in back four with Cadden and Hanlon.

Midfield must change. I would put Clarke in beside Newell to give us some strength. I would have Henderson is for some energy and to support Melkerson and Jasper.

If Doidge fit I would even consider starting to try and hold up ball and Melkerson off him.

We have limited hope but we need to change it big time.

Would defo like to see him try doidge and melkerson

Joe6-2
10-04-2022, 08:51 AM
What now? We go again and try to improve on today.

Problem with that is there is absolutely no sign whatsoever that we can improve

Paulie Walnuts
10-04-2022, 08:59 AM
Yes our first XI (so basically today's team) and then if we win our first game I'd be playing Josh O'Connor etc for the last four games.

I know you said etc but Josh O’Connor is - you guessed it - injured. Out for the season.

Rondon
10-04-2022, 09:02 AM
I know you said etc but Josh O’Connor is - you guessed it - injured. Out for the season.

Wouldn’t really want him playing in this team anyway. I’d have brought him in next season.

Didn’t half make me feel old when he came on the other week though. Feels like yesterday I used to watch his dad every week

Sir David Gray
10-04-2022, 09:07 AM
I know you said etc but Josh O’Connor is - you guessed it - injured. Out for the season.

Ahh ok must have missed that.

Is Sunshine the Leith Lynx still kicking about? If so give him/her a game.

wookie70
10-04-2022, 09:12 AM
Limited choices but:-

Change formation.

Porteous and Stevenson in back four with Cadden and Hanlon.

Midfield must change. I would put Clarke in beside Newell to give us some strength. I would have Henderson is for some energy and to support Melkerson and Jasper.

If Doidge fit I would even consider starting to try and hold up ball and Melkerson off him.

We have limited hope but we need to change it big time.

Henderson in for some energy was a surprise to me. He shows very little movement and is ineffective when we don't have the ball. Doubt he will ever be a regular starter. Doidge is done for at least this season and I don't think Clarke is a player for centre midfield but possibly worth a try. I'd have him in front of Cadden with Doig and Jasper on the other side. Lewis would go in beside Newell for me and it seems crazy he was dropped after being our best player for a few games.

CentreLine
10-04-2022, 09:46 AM
How about we play some of the young team. Give them a chance to mature and play for their place in the squad next season. We may as well because this season is finished for us. At least getting a chance to see the youngsters up against premiership (albeit bottom half) opposition might enthuse a decent support. Right now I for one am suffering a huge dose of apathy.

I will not be buying a ticket for the semi-final. Up to now I have been consistent about renewing my ST but that view is slipping rapidly. I probably will but it will likely be a donation rather than a commitment to come watch crap. In over fifty five years of ups and downs, this one may finally do for me.

Rondon
10-04-2022, 09:47 AM
[QUOTE=CentreLine;6917079]How about we play some of the young team. Give them a chance to mature and play for their place in the squad next season. We may as well because this season is finished for us. At least getting a chance to see the youngsters up against premiership (albeit bottom half) opposition might enthuse a decent support. Right now I for one am suffering a huge dose of apathy.[/QUO

Not while we can still end up 11th

HendoDelivered
10-04-2022, 09:52 AM
Yes. I don’t want to hear from him, I don’t want to see his face or hear his “vision”. Not after that hat he’s done to our club in something like four months. He’s an impostor and must know that he’s out of his depth yet collects a pay packet. Games where we’ve barely mustered a shot on target and he’s wittering on about how well we did. I’d say go back to punditry but he’s ****ing murder at that too.

I can’t ****ing stand to even look at him.


It’s as if he’s pumped your Mrs…

CentreLine
10-04-2022, 09:52 AM
[QUOTE=CentreLine;6917079]How about we play some of the young team. Give them a chance to mature and play for their place in the squad next season. We may as well because this season is finished for us. At least getting a chance to see the youngsters up against premiership (albeit bottom half) opposition might enthuse a decent support. Right now I for one am suffering a huge dose of apathy.[/QUO

Not while we can still end up 11th

Does it really matter when we are not being offered the slightest bit if entertainment? There is a reason the fans came flooding back when Tony Mowbray cut his teeth in management. Entertainment was guaranteed. Maybe not consistent results but we knew we were going to see a show. Similarly under McLeish and Lennon (mostly).

WestStandWillie
10-04-2022, 10:02 AM
Square pegs into round holes.

This squad are not suited to his Belgian blueprint. So either Ron backs him 100% (which would mean a complete squad overhaul) or SM needs to adjust his style or face the consequences.

I don’t think he’ll be at ER come end of October.

B.H.F.C
10-04-2022, 10:04 AM
Square pegs into round holes.

This squad are not suited to his Belgian blueprint. So either Ron backs him 100% (which would mean a complete squad overhaul) or SM needs to adjust his style or face the consequences.

I don’t think he’ll be at ER come end of October.

If next week goes as I expect it will, I don’t think he’ll be here come the end of April.

Coco Bryce
10-04-2022, 10:04 AM
Square pegs into round holes.

This squad are not suited to his Belgian blueprint. So either Ron backs him 100% (which would mean a complete squad overhaul) or SM needs to adjust his style or face the consequences.

I don’t think he’ll be at ER come end of October.

October? Let's hope not.

Northernhibee
10-04-2022, 10:05 AM
It’s as if he’s pumped your Mrs…

It’s as if he’s decimated our football club in five horrific months and avoided looking in the mirror as of who is to fault.

LewysGot2
10-04-2022, 12:23 PM
Yes our first XI (so basically today's team) and then if we win our first game I'd be playing Josh O'Connor etc for the last four games.

OConnor out for the rest of the season. Sure the kids would like to try and win their league too

JohnM1875
10-04-2022, 12:43 PM
If next week goes as I expect it will, I don’t think he’ll be here come the end of April.

If it does there's not a chance he keeps his job.

Scorrie
10-04-2022, 01:30 PM
Play the B team. It got strengthened more than the first team in January!

Bertie Wooster
10-04-2022, 03:48 PM
First posting , so bear with me.

Being a season ticjet holder it would be easy to be angry at what is on display on the field just now , but I am trying to look at this as a step towards the bigger picture.

Comparing Hibs with clubs like Brentford who do something different , I think you have to go "all in" and give it time. This means having transition seasons (plural) but with that there has to be signs of progress. I can see why Jack Ross was sacked , even if the timing seemed odd , and I thnk there will be some more bumps in the road , but the club needs patience to stick with what we are doing. Unfortunately , this is something a number of fans are not willing to give. Yes its a bad season , but last seasons 3,4,5 & 6th place (including one team who one both cup trophies) are in the bottom six.

The club is also learning a lot about itself , through the structure and recruitment , and probably Ron Gordon is understanding that you cant get success quickly with Scottish football. But I dont think the strategy will change because they have invested so much, the new regime understand business and realise this will take a few years before they start to see the results they want.

Yes , I think there will be high tunover of players in the summer and if Maloney goes , there will be a search for a manager to play similar style of football. There has been too much invested to give up so quickly.

Nicho87
10-04-2022, 03:49 PM
Try a different approach, different style

It’s not worked for 3 months