Ross County

[Irish_Steve]

No disrespect to County but given the player budget, to have them finish in the top six at our expense is simply unacceptable.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Yes, well done to County, they have done very well. So poor from Hibs and Aberdeen.

[Scottie]

Steve this season the table doesn’t lie. Ross County have been better than us. Just goes to show how togetherness and a bit of grit gets you to your destination.

[Unseen work]

They were in a relation battle not long ago.Poor Harry Clarke left them to join us. Our form since January has been a disgrace.I can see us finishing 10th at best.

[Jim44]

In footballing terms, we are bottom six because we are garbage. Mathematically, we are bottom six because another garbage team lost at home to Ross County.

[Pretty Boy]

Plenty were happy to put the boot into Malky McKay earlier in the season, myself included BTW, but dinosaur that he may be he has done some job there.

Looking at that top 6 Hibs and Aberdeen should be ashamed. There are a few similarities between the clubs and the dip in performance as well, something to consider.

[cappoquinboy]

They have a very good manager - that makes a massive difference

[DaveF]

Hibs and Aberdeen deserve all the stick coming their way for being bottom 6. Both absolutely garbage for supposedly 'bigger'clubs.

Laughable.

[Since452]

Malky MacKay has done a brilliant job. A proper manager.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Shameful to be finishing below village teams like Ross County.

[Logie Green]

Shameful to be finishing below village teams like Ross County.

Agree but if you have a look back at the seasons we’ve both played in the top division it’s not a kick in the arse of 50-50 in terms of which club has finished above the other.

[Unseen work]

Hibs and Aberdeen deserve all the stick coming their way for being bottom 6. Both absolutely garbage for supposedly 'bigger'clubs.

Laughable.

Both teams thought they’d be fancy and wanted to bring someone in who they thought would be modern and play good football.

Neither teams managed that.

I’m sick of hearing we’re an attacking team, we’re far from it. John Hughes would do better with the squad we have. We don’t make teams defend, we are so so easy to play against

Im also sick of us signing 20 year olds and trying to make out it’s a big coup for the club. Yes sign them by all means, but you also need experience and quality.

[Bostonhibby]

Plenty were happy to put the boot into Malky McKay earlier in the season, myself included BTW, but dinosaur that he may be he has done some job there.

Looking at that top 6 Hibs and Aberdeen should be ashamed. There are a few similarities between the clubs and the dip in performance as well, something to consider.He isn't my ideal type of person but he is one of a number of managers that realise what's needed to grind out results in Scottish football, the table doesn't lie and congratulations to Ross County, they are the size they are and located where they are so they must be a well organised club.

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[Rick Rude]

Helps when you have a guy that scores goals. The only player we had that knew how to do that has been in Saudi Arabia since January.

[wookie70]

Plenty were happy to put the boot into Malky McKay earlier in the season, myself included BTW, but dinosaur that he may be he has done some job there.


McKay may be a dinosaur but that works as he is playing in the Jurassic Premier League. Maloney has just seen his team eaten alive by a mediocre Hearts team but he still thinks pretty patterns will beat teeth and muscle. It might if we had faster, more agile players but we are possibly the slowest team in the league who move the least and don't fancy a fight that always comes because we sit an let it arrive. If Ron was a Billionaire SM may be the right appointment in time. As it is he is a shockingly naïve manager appointed by a naïve CEO and overseen by a naïve owner.

[Swedish hibee]

After the horrendous start to their season, it's incredible to see what they've now achieved. Not going to congratulate them, I'm far to bitter for all that!

[MWHIBBIES]

They are the worst team I've seen at ER this season. Worse than Cove were. Beaten twice without even threatening us whatsoever. Wouldn't touch their manager with a ****ty stick.

[Stevie Reid]

As I said on another thread, they had three points from their first ten games, and were bottom of the league.

In the 23 games since, they have won 14 more points than us.

[Callum_62]

As I said on another thread, they had three points from their first ten games, and were bottom of the league.

In the 23 games since, they have won 14 more points than us.3 points from 30 we would never stick by a manager with that form

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[Silky]

[QUOTE=Unseen work;6915531]Both teams thought they’d be fancy and wanted to bring someone in who they thought would be modern and play good football.

Maybe that's not the way to go. Maybe that kind of "modern" football doesn't work in Scotland.

[Callum_62]

[QUOTE=Unseen work;6915531]Both teams thought they’d be fancy and wanted to bring someone in who they thought would be modern and play good football.

Maybe that's not the way to go. Maybe that kind of "modern" football doesn't work in Scotland.Ange seems to be doing alright with it.

I remember pep being semi ridiculed after his first mediocre season in England

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[Ray Donovan]

As I said on another thread, they had three points from their first ten games, and were bottom of the league.

In the 23 games since, they have won 14 more points than us.

Unbelievable really. We are in a right mess.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Hibs and Aberdeen deserve all the stick coming their way for being bottom 6. Both absolutely garbage for supposedly 'bigger'clubs.

Laughable.

Aberdeen and Hibs have just one win apiece since Boxing Day (and of course their win was against us)

Combined its 2 wins in 26 for last seasons 3rd and 4th. Just ridiculously bad.

[Since452]

Aberdeen and Hibs have just one win apiece since Boxing Day (and of course their win was against us)

Combined its 2 wins in 26 for last seasons 3rd and 4th. Just ridiculously bad.

Using clubs the size of Hibs and Aberdeen as guinea pigs for managerial experiments is stupidity. At least Aberdeen got rid eventually.

[Silky]

[QUOTE=Silky;6916160]Ange seems to be doing alright with it.

I remember pep being semi ridiculed after his first mediocre season in England

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Is this what we are doing now to Maloney?

[Sir David Gray]

Fair play to them, Hibs (and Aberdeen) should be embarrassed.

[Callum_62]

[QUOTE=Callum_62;6916198]

Is this what we are doing now to Maloney?Maloneys in danger of having a really awful 1/2 a season

My point is though that even one of the best managers in the world with resources to buy near enough who he wanted took time to get the style implemented and working in England

So much so that the media were questioning if his style would work at all..... He obviosuly went on to prove the conviction in his methods

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[Onceinawhile]

Mad to think we're 5-1 up on them after 3 games!

[IberianHibernian]

Tiny margins this season when talking of top 6 . Am aware that top 6 is not considered to be success for most Hibs fans but in the end if ref had given penalty last week after challenge on Mueller and we score we`d have made top 6 . Talk of " embarrassment " etc is strange though . How many years have we made top 6 since split started ? I`m not accepting mediocrity ; I`m being realistic .

[Callum_62]

Tiny margins this season when talking of top 6 . Am aware that top 6 is not considered to be success for most Hibs fans but in the end if ref had given penalty last week after challenge on Mueller and we score we`d have made top 6 . Talk of " embarrassment " etc is strange though . How many years have we made top 6 since split started ? I`m not accepting mediocrity ; I`m being realistic .Latest years at the bottomhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20220410/40af2d1050ed4d3740c20aaab5465df7.jpg

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[the_ginger_hibee]

Tiny margins this season when talking of top 6 . Am aware that top 6 is not considered to be success for most Hibs fans but in the end if ref had given penalty last week after challenge on Mueller and we score we`d have made top 6 . Talk of " embarrassment " etc is strange though . How many years have we made top 6 since split started ? I`m not accepting mediocrity ; I`m being realistic .

Hibs should not be talking of what ifs when it comes to top 6. That is embarrassing. What exactly is your aim for Hibs? Just to be in-line with previous performance? No. Chance.

We pay 4th/5th highest wages and transfer fees to compete in the top half...not to scrap out of a playoff place. You want to accept mediocrity - don't ever complain about our performance again, you are part of the problem.

[Callum_62]

Hibs should not be talking of what ifs when it comes to top 6. That is embarrassing. What exactly is your aim for Hibs? Just to be in-line with previous performance? No. Chance.

We pay 4th/5th highest wages and transfer fees to compete in the top half...not to scrap out of a playoff place. You want to accept mediocrity - don't ever complain about our performance again, you are part of the problem.Hahah where to even start with this [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

#IberianHibernianOut
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[the_ginger_hibee]

Hahah where to even start with this [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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Great response mate. Very insightful.

[Zambernardi1875]

No disrespect to County but given the player budget, to have them finish in the top six at our expense is simply unacceptable.

Just goes to show ,roll up and buy a season ticket means **** all

[Callum_62]

Great response mate. Very insightful.Explain how a fan is 'part of the problem'

My reply was as insightful as needed to the drivel cliche you posted

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[the_ginger_hibee]

Explain how a fan is 'part of the problem'

My reply was as insightful as needed to the drivel cliche you posted

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Do you think Hearts as a club 'want it more' in derbies?

[Callum_62]

Do you think Hearts as a club 'want it more' in derbies?This goes back to 2016

I count 6 wins for Hibs
5 wins for a hearts (6 if I add in today)
The rest draws

Most games the odd goal in it

So based on the last 5/6 years of data that suggests no

What's that got to do with a fan though?



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[the_ginger_hibee]

This goes back to 2016

I count 6 wins for Hibs
5 wins for a hearts (6 if I add in today)
The rest draws

Most games the odd goal in it

So based on the last 5/6 years of data that suggests no

What's that got to do with a fan though?



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Nice cherry picking. I can do that.

In the last 1 derbies, Hearts have a 100% record. Easy eh?

It has everything to do with a fan. What club hounded out their manager, who finished 3rd, because of a derby defeat? (it wasn't Hibs).

What club drills it into every age group about not losing derbies? (Not Hibs).

What club punted their club captain, one of their most 'well respected' and loyal players when he was deemed not good enough anymore? (Berra, not at Hibs).

Now what team does almost the opposite of that (that's Hibs). We forgive mediocrity, give into sentimentality and are 'happy with a good performance' in derbies (Shaun Maloney).

You think culture and mindset of a club is not impacted by fans? We are sentimental, happy to be here, 2016 comfort-blanket, *****bags with one of the worst derby records going. It's that simple.

[Stuart93]

Nice cherry picking. I can do that.

In the last 1 derbies, Hearts have a 100% record. Easy eh?

It has everything to do with a fan. What club hounded out their manager, who finished 3rd, because of a derby defeat? (it wasn't Hibs).

What club drills it into every age group about not losing derbies? (Not Hibs).

What club punted their club captain, one of their most 'well respected' and loyal players when he was deemed not good enough anymore? (Berra, not at Hibs).

Now what team does almost the opposite of that (that's Hibs). We forgive mediocrity, give into sentimentality and are 'happy with a good performance' in derbies (Shaun Maloney).

You think culture and mindset of a club is not impacted by fans? We are sentimental, happy to be here, 2016 comfort-blanket, *****bags with one of the worst derby records going. It's that simple.

Just a crazy

[Callum_62]

Nice cherry picking. I can do that.

In the last 1 derbies, Hearts have a 100% record. Easy eh?

It has everything to do with a fan. What club hounded out their manager, who finished 3rd, because of a derby defeat? (it wasn't Hibs).

What club drills it into every age group about not losing derbies? (Not Hibs).

What club punted their club captain, one of their most 'well respected' and loyal players when he was deemed not good enough anymore? (Berra, not at Hibs).

Now what team does almost the opposite of that (that's Hibs). We forgive mediocrity, give into sentimentality and are 'happy with a good performance' in derbies (Shaun Maloney).

You think culture and mindset of a club is not impacted by fans? We are sentimental, happy to be here, 2016 comfort-blanket, *****bags with one of the worst derby records going. It's that simple."Cherry picking" stats from the previous 6 years

Eh.... [emoji23]

Its shows little between the clubs in head to heads. I know that's hard to accept as it's unemotional and we just lost but it's not cherry picking in the slightest - it's the facts from over half a decade of fixtures

Considering the whole ethos of hearts (according to you) is to not accept medocrity and one up hibs, they are doing a pretty poor job overall from 2016

Again though - IberianHibernian 'accepting medocrity' (whatever that means) has no bearing on our really pretty even recent Derby record




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[Pagan Hibernia]

This goes back to 2016

I count 6 wins for Hibs
5 wins for a hearts (6 if I add in today)
The rest draws

Most games the odd goal in it

So based on the last 5/6 years of data that suggests no

What's that got to do with a fan though?



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we had a purple patch in derbies from 2015-2019. Emboldened by our Scottish cup win, together with some terrible managerial appointments that hearts made. They were scared to come to Easter Road then, and we managed a couple of wins at Tynie too.

Since Boxing Day 2019 the derby stats make grim viewing and unfortunately it looks like it’s back to what we’ve endured for so long. We’re without a win in 5, have lost 3 of those, haven't beaten them at home for four years… etc etc

if the game next Saturday goes how most of us if we’re honest are expecting it to go then the winless run is up to 6. And we know from very painful experience how quickly those runs can gather momentum.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Tiny margins this season when talking of top 6 . Am aware that top 6 is not considered to be success for most Hibs fans but in the end if ref had given penalty last week after challenge on Mueller and we score we`d have made top 6 . Talk of " embarrassment " etc is strange though . How many years have we made top 6 since split started ? I`m not accepting mediocrity ; I`m being realistic .

The other years we didn’t manage top six was an embarrassment too tbh. Hibernian Football Club are easily in the top 5 biggest clubs in Scotland by whatever measurement you wish to use. History, stadium, wider support, ST sales, transfer budget, wage budget. You can argue about whether we should be 3rd, 4th or 5th (at risk of sounding a bit like ‘No Medals Levein’ I personally think 4th is probably our ‘natural’ position) but we should absolutely not be lower than 6th and missing out to teams that get crowds of 3000 at games