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houstonhibbee
02-04-2022, 07:54 PM
If we could only beat Hearts once from the two games which would you pick? No draws allowed.

Frazerbob
02-04-2022, 07:58 PM
Semi all the way. I'd be shocked if anyone sys different.

lugz
02-04-2022, 07:59 PM
Cup final 100%.

WeeRussell
02-04-2022, 07:59 PM
Semi all the way. I'd be shocked if anyone sys different.

Snap.

In fact no, I’ll be shocked if at least one poster doesn’t say different 😁

Libby Hibby
02-04-2022, 08:02 PM
Semi

Mr. Wonderful
02-04-2022, 08:04 PM
Top 6. Because we'll officially be safe from the playoff spot

B.H.F.C
02-04-2022, 08:05 PM
Semi, no question about it.

Scotty Leither
02-04-2022, 08:07 PM
Semi final, all day long.

IberianHibernian
02-04-2022, 08:11 PM
Semi final though a win in league and win in penalties would be fine too .
Financial consideration though - win in league then 4th or 5th guarantees Europe , probably 2 big gates post split and would boost confidence for Hampden .
I hope we`re only concentrating on league game as it`s a huge game for us even if semi is a bit more important . Win next week and we have something to play for till mid May at least .

Sir David Gray
02-04-2022, 08:12 PM
I'd go for the semi final but it's not quite as cut and dried for me as it seems to be for others.

If we win the league game and make the top 6 we would have a decent chance of making Europe next season and although we would be one game from making Europe if we win the semi final it is unlikely that we would beat Celtic or Rangers in the final.

Having said that I don't want Hearts getting into a cup final at our expense and having a chance of winning a trophy. I also really want to beat them at Hampden.

I would definitely prefer to win the semi final though.

wookie70
02-04-2022, 08:13 PM
Top 6. Because we'll officially be safe from the playoff spot

I'd say semi is more important but I know exactly where you are coming from. St Js are picking up points and they may well escape. This season has more than some familiarity with the Butcher season

B.H.F.C
02-04-2022, 08:25 PM
I'd say semi is more important but I know exactly where you are coming from. St Js are picking up points and they may well escape. This season has more than some familiarity with the Butcher season

St Johnstone at Parkhead next week so, worst case scenario, we should be 8 points in front of them going in to the split IF we finish in the bottom six.

What a bloody shambles of a season that we’re even discussing this. I could quite conceivably see us drawing every post split game if we finish bottom six.

Sir David Gray
02-04-2022, 08:48 PM
I'd say semi is more important but I know exactly where you are coming from. St Js are picking up points and they may well escape. This season has more than some familiarity with the Butcher season

I'd still say we're in no danger of being dragged into the play off spot.

Barring an unlikely result for St Johnstone at Parkhead next season they'll go into the last 5 games 8 points behind us.

St Johnstone would probably need to win their last five games for us to be in danger.

Jones28
02-04-2022, 08:56 PM
Cup every time.

ErinGoBraghHFC
02-04-2022, 09:03 PM
A club of our size shouldn't need to choose between a cup final and finishing top six, both should be prerequisites.

Real Emerald
02-04-2022, 09:03 PM
Top six surely, just think the bender of a weekend we would have if we managed to qualify for the top six. It’s like waiting for Christmas 🤣

wookie70
02-04-2022, 09:04 PM
I'd still say we're in no danger of being dragged into the play off spot.

Barring an unlikely result for St Johnstone at Parkhead next season they'll go into the last 5 games 8 points behind us.

St Johnstone would probably need to win their last five games for us to be in danger.

Lots said that with the Butcher team. I don't think it is likely but St Johnstone could easily win 4 or 5 games post split and if they beat us the difference would only be 5. They have a bit of form and I can see them avoiding 2nd bottom.

IberianHibernian
02-04-2022, 09:08 PM
A club of our size shouldn't need to choose between a cup final and finishing top six, both should be prerequisites.Top 6 is only a target this year because we`re guaranteed European football if we finish 5th . If we win at Tynecastle , we `ll be in a great position to finish 4th or 5th .

ErinGoBraghHFC
02-04-2022, 09:11 PM
Top 6 is only a target this year because we`re guaranteed European football if we finish 5th . If we win at Tynecastle , we `ll be in a great position to finish 4th or 5th .

There's absolutely no excuse for Hibs to finish any lower than 4th, maybe 5th every now and again. Ever.

IberianHibernian
02-04-2022, 09:20 PM
There's absolutely no excuse for Hibs to finish any lower than 4th, maybe 5th every now and again. Ever.How many times have we finished in top 4 in last 50 years ? Or last 10 years ? " No excuse " ? This year , having half the squad injured after winter break might be an excuse .

Glory Lurker
02-04-2022, 09:22 PM
I'd choose Cup Final, but as we're going to achieve both I'm no sweating it.

ErinGoBraghHFC
02-04-2022, 09:29 PM
How many times have we finished in top 4 in last 50 years ? Or last 10 years ? " No excuse " ? This year , having half the squad injured after winter break might be an excuse .

We're perennial underachievers, no excuse imo. Understand injuries etc have affected Hibs this season so I'll cut Maloney some slack on that, but a club of our size should have enough strength in depth to deal with that.

Sir David Gray
02-04-2022, 09:30 PM
Lots said that with the Butcher team. I don't think it is likely but St Johnstone could easily win 4 or 5 games post split and if they beat us the difference would only be 5. They have a bit of form and I can see them avoiding 2nd bottom.

We were only 4 points above the play off spot going into the split in 13/14 - this year it is almost certainly going to be a minimum of 8 points so that's an extra two games worth of points that St Johnstone would need to find from their final five matches.

St Johnstone have only won 7 out of their 32 league games so far, I personally think it's a bit of a stretch to think they could easily win 4 or 5 of their last 5 games.

I think they may bring St Mirren into it but I'd be shocked if we are in danger of the play off spot this year.

It is absolutely ridiculous that it's even needing to be discussed though.

Ray Donovan
02-04-2022, 09:42 PM
Cup final everytime.

MrRobot
02-04-2022, 09:46 PM
final

wookie70
02-04-2022, 09:58 PM
We were only 4 points above the play off spot going into the split in 13/14 - this year it is almost certainly going to be a minimum of 8 points so that's an extra two games worth of points that St Johnstone would need to find from their final five matches.

St Johnstone have only won 7 out of their 32 league games so far, I personally think it's a bit of a stretch to think they could easily win 4 or 5 of their last 5 games.

I think they may bring St Mirren into it but I'd be shocked if we are in danger of the play off spot this year.

It is absolutely ridiculous that it's even needing to be discussed though.

I don't really disagree too much but they have managed to gain 5 points on us in the last 2 games, add one win against us and you get the 8 points. Momentum is really important and they have some. We will draw enough games to not be in the bottom two. Again I agree it is ridiculous we aren't already in the top 6 already. Not having a forward to bring on today for Melkerson was ridiculous considering we knew Doidge would struggle and Boyle was likely to be away. Considering Melkerson isn't even meant to be in the first team squad yet. Recruitment is a total shambles and it seems we identify players and don't seem to worry if they fit into our shape or where we are short on cover.

Sir David Gray
02-04-2022, 10:00 PM
I don't really disagree too much but they have managed to gain 5 points on us in the last 2 games, add one win against us and you get the 8 points. Momentum is really important and they have some. We will draw enough games to not be in the bottom two. Again I agree it is ridiculous we aren't already in the top 6 already. Not having a forward to bring on today for Melkerson was ridiculous considering we knew Doidge would struggle and Boyle was likely to be away. Considering Melkerson isn't even meant to be in the first team squad yet. Recruitment is a total shambles and it seems we identify players and don't seem to worry if they fit into our shape or where we are short on cover.

Agreed.

Eyrie
02-04-2022, 10:21 PM
Has to be winning the semi.

The only way that Hearts can miss out on the Europa League and guaranteed group stage football in Europe is if we win the Cup.

LaMotta
02-04-2022, 10:22 PM
Pointless question we don't have to do one or the other. We can do both.

Glory Lurker
02-04-2022, 10:27 PM
Pointless question we don't have to do one or the other. We can do both.

Amen, although would swap "can" for "will".

WeeRussell
02-04-2022, 11:04 PM
Pointless question we don't have to do one or the other. We can do both.

I don’t think anyone’s suggesting we can’t? (Well, some will be suggesting we can’t win either.. obviously 🙄)

It’s just as pointless as most other things we discuss on here though? Might as well never debate about who our best player is, as we can just play him and our second best at the same time anyway.

If you don’t like hypothetical harmless questions you could always just not bother with the clearly titled thread 😉

Rondon
02-04-2022, 11:04 PM
If we could only beat Hearts once from the two games which would you pick? No draws allowed.

Semi

LaMotta
02-04-2022, 11:08 PM
I don’t think anyone’s suggesting we can’t? (Well, some will be suggesting we can’t win either.. obviously 🙄)

It’s just as pointless as most other things we discuss on here though? Might as well never debate about who our best player is, as we can just play him and our second best at the same time anyway.

If you don’t like hypothetical harmless questions you could always just not bother with the clearly titled thread 😉

Yes I know fair points mate, you are right :greengrin but these questions always pop up and end in furious debates and it really doesnt matter - because we don't have to choose one or the other. I'm not a fan of hypotethitcal questions like these so I probably should have ignored the thread.:greengrin

007
02-04-2022, 11:12 PM
Semi all the way. I'd be shocked if anyone sys different.

It's not that clear cut. If we get 5th we're in Europe but whichever of us wins the semi could well lose in the final. If we get top 6 it probably means a win at Tynecastle.

bringbackbenny
02-04-2022, 11:14 PM
It's the Cup Fina be all and end all. a game changer financially. Both would be nice.

houstonhibbee
03-04-2022, 12:25 AM
Yes I know fair points mate, you are right :greengrin but these questions always pop up and end in furious debates and it really doesnt matter - because we don't have to choose one or the other. I'm not a fan of hypotethitcal questions like these so I probably should have ignored the thread.:greengrin


I started it because I wanted to know what fellow fans thought particularly when the two opportunities infrequently arise and probably have never against Hearts on both counts all within a week
If that doesn't interest you then that's your perogative
I think winning the semi is more important because it probably gives us the better chance to get into Europe and you never know - another Scottish Cup win.

NAE NOOKIE
03-04-2022, 01:05 AM
I'm 62 years old .... in that time Hibs have won three league cups and one Scottish cup, that's a trophy every 15.5 years. I have yet to attend an open topped bus parade for finishing 3rd in the league or qualifying for Europe.

If it's not about winning stuff then what's the point? We have absolutely no chance of winning a European trophy so it simply has to be the semi final, with a chance of winning the cup, which would take us into Europe anyway.

Semi.

Jones28
03-04-2022, 07:13 AM
Is two cup finals and a top six finish a good season, all things considered?


Cup final for me, I’ll take the chance at silverware over the chance to get horsed by the old firm as they slug it out for the title any day. Though the chance to deny either one of them the title is always fun.

Scooter
03-04-2022, 07:57 AM
This is why for me yesterday was the biggest game of the 3. Win the Dundee Utd game and we are now 3 points clear and your not too concerned about next week.

For me now I would take next week over the semi cause we can't buy a win in the league and St Johnston have now won 2 in a row and it really wouldn't take much to get dragged into a play off fight

Brightside
03-04-2022, 07:59 AM
Our aim should always be top4.

Mcbizz1998
03-04-2022, 08:13 AM
Obviously rather win the semi final but I would be genuinely worried if we are in the bottom 6. We are only 8 points off the play off spot.

McHibby
03-04-2022, 08:28 AM
Oh the cup,100%

Killiehibbie
03-04-2022, 08:30 AM
Cup final. Our only realistic chance of glory is the cups every season.

flash
03-04-2022, 08:32 AM
The Cups are my favourite games every season and we are a magnificent Cup team these days.
We will be in the final.

Hibby Kay-Yay
03-04-2022, 08:37 AM
Our aim should always be top4.

I’m sure it is, along with getting to at least the semis in the cups. We won’t always make it though.

We have this season in the cups but fell short, or likely to fall short in the league…although 4th is still achievable (unbelievably)

OldEast
03-04-2022, 08:38 AM
Cup

Pretty Boy
03-04-2022, 09:05 AM
I'd honestly accept finishing 11th and having to go through the play offs if the trade off was reaching the cup final.

Finishing 3rd or 4th is nice but we seem to then be in a perennial cycle of not being ready for Europe, getting papped out early, people saying the league is the priority anyway to only repeat the cycle the next time we make Europe. I know the argument is that consistency will make us better prepared next time but that consistency seems as far away as ever.

Cup wins are remembered forever. In 50 or 60 years time I'll still talk about 2007 and 2016, a defeat on penalties in Denmark or a win in Greece, not so much.

WeeRussell
03-04-2022, 10:42 AM
Yes I know fair points mate, you are right :greengrin but these questions always pop up and end in furious debates and it really doesnt matter - because we don't have to choose one or the other. I'm not a fan of hypotethitcal questions like these so I probably should have ignored the thread.:greengrin

Aye but hypothetically - which would you prefer?! 😁

Key West
03-04-2022, 10:50 AM
Cup Final

JXM73
03-04-2022, 11:20 AM
Want...both...currently heading for neither...

LaMotta
03-04-2022, 12:24 PM
Aye but hypothetically - which would you prefer?! 😁

both:wink:

Coco Bryce
03-04-2022, 12:25 PM
Whatever option we make the most money from.

Iggy Pope
03-04-2022, 12:33 PM
Yes I know fair points mate, you are right :greengrin but these questions always pop up and end in furious debates and it really doesnt matter - because we don't have to choose one or the other. I'm not a fan of hypotethitcal questions like these so I probably should have ignored the thread.:greengrin

I find that thinking applies to an awful lot of threads these days.

MWHIBBIES
03-04-2022, 01:57 PM
Win the cup. Nothing else really matters as we won't go down.

Callum_62
03-04-2022, 02:15 PM
I'm going to wait to see if we lose one

Then claim that one was the most important

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