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Jonnyboy
02-04-2022, 06:14 PM
A much changed Hibs side faced in form Dundee United at Easter Road with both clubs desperate for the three points that would strengthen their bid for a top six finish. Porteous (suspended), Campbell, Stevenson and Wright dropped out and were replaced by Hanlon, Doyle-Hayes, Mueller and debutant Harry Clarke. I confess I was excited about the starting eleven as I envisaged Dundee United struggling to contain Mueller, Melkersen and Jasper with all three being extremely mobile but that excitement, at least in the first half was misplaced.

Hibs started brightly enough, and Joe Newell had the first effort at goal, but his shot was blocked and United were soon creating chances for themselves. One such chance arrived in the tenth minute when the old failing of struggling to defend crosses properly allowed United to take the lead. Tony Watt was wide right, and Clarke couldn’t prevent his cross to the back post where Ryan Edwards rose to head the ball back across goal and Ross Graham beat his marker in the jump to head home past a helpless Dabrowski. It was a really poor goal to lose but seemed to give Hibs the incentive to strike back quickly. Clarke fed Jasper whose effort was blocked but reached Newell who struck the ball cleanly enough but was thwarted by the diving block of Charlie Mulgrew.

Next to try his luck was Niskanen who hit the side netting before Clarke looked to have broken clear in chasing a Hanlon pass, but he was flagged offside. The game was very stop start with passes going astray or fouls being committed to break the play. I was growing sick of the sound of Don Robertson’s whistle and frustrated that a number of clear fouls, for both sides in fairness, were not awarded whilst silly wee pushes or nudges saw the game grind to a halt.

Five minutes from the break, Clarke struck a fierce drive from around twenty yards and though it looked like the effort might clear the crossbar, Siegrist took no chances and tipped the ball over for a corner. I could sense the mood in the stands as Hibs huffed and puffed but any thoughts of booing were hushed by the striking of a fine equaliser. A Cadden cross from the right flew over the head of Liam Smith and arrived at Harry Clarke who took one touch to control the ball before firing a fierce left footed daisy cutter beyond Siegrist and into the net. Moments later, Melkerson wriggled free and got his shot away but there were too many bodies in the way for it to reach the target.

Sylvester Jasper, who had looked to be struggling, was replaced at half time by Ewan Henderson and Hibs started the half much better than they had played to that point. A couple of corners saw Bushiri and Mueller striking shots at goal but neither really troubled Siegrist. For their part, United seemed content to try and keep the ball without making any attempt to put Dabrowski under pressure and Hibs took advantage of their possession by pretty much camping in the United half. Joe Newell was pushing his luck a bit as he had committed a number of fouls but so too had Tony Watt who should have been booked for the most obvious simulation you are ever likely to see but referee Robertson clearly thought otherwise.

Just after the hour mark, Don Robertson finally found his yellow card and booked Liam Smith for a crude challenge on Ewan Henderson and soon after a Joe Newell corner resulted in a good old fashioned stramash in the United penalty area as the ball reached Melkersen who had a pop at goal but that was blocked with the ball falling to Henderson and then Mueller with those shots being blocked on route to the goal. Then, Melkersen and Cadden were each unsuccessful with efforts before Shaun Maloney replaced Bushiri with Drey Wright who, moments later, cut in from the left and looked ready to shoot but opted instead to lay the ball into the path of Doyle-Hayes who was quickly closed down and the chance was gone.

Dabrowski was largely untroubled at that point but was pleased to see Sporle shoot high over the bar from distance. With ten minutes left and surprisingly to me at least, Joe Newell was replaced by James Scott who quickly won his side a corner. Henderson’s delivery found Clarke, but the Hibs man couldn’t keep his header on target.

United started to up their attacking game at that point and Sporle had another go but with the same outcome as his last and then with two minutes of normal time to go, Chris Mueller went down in the box. From my vantage point it looked a foul, but Don Robertson deemed it simulation and booked Mueller. I’d like to see it again before criticising the referee for his decision as obviously he was a lot closer to the incident than me.

There had been a number of substitutions and a couple of lengthy delays for treatment to players, but I was surprised to see that the referee added six minutes of time to the game. United substitute Cudjoe had a chance but wasted it and then Tony Watt was (finally) booked for a bad foul on Josh Doig before Melkersen missed an absolute sitter to seal the win in the fifth of the added minutes. Mueller picked him out and with the whole goal to aim at, Melkersen blasted the ball over the bar.

A huge disappointment to only draw and now it looks like we’ll have to win at Tynecastle next week to get be in the top six at the split.

The players

Dabrowski – I’m pretty sure Kev only had one save of note to make. I was too far away to see whether he might have claimed the header back across goal that led to the United opener.

Bushiri – As a central defender he may have been jointly culpable for the goal but otherwise I thought he did ok.

Hanlon – His first full match back and it showed at times, and I think it might have been him that Ross Graham outjumped for the goal.

Doig – Playing in the position I like to see him play and got forward many times to contribute to attacking moves.

Cadden – Another good display from Chris who got the assist for the goal.

Doyle-Hayes – Still doesn’t push us forward often enough for me.

Newell – I thought Joe was having a good game and was puzzled when he got hooked.

Clarke – I’ll be honest as I thought he’d be replaced at the interval but then he scored that cracking goal! Went on to grow into the game and was involved plenty in the second half. Gets my man of the match award.

Jasper – Looked off it almost from the start and blunted a couple of good attacking moves by trying to go himself when he had team mates in good positions around him.

Mueller – Worked hard but little came off for him. Not sure about the booking, I’d like to see the challenge again.

Melkersen – Largely anonymous in the first half and more involved in the second but that late miss was a scunner.

Henderson – Ewan needs to work on his core strength as he’s too easily bumped off the ball in my view.

Wright – There was an instance today when he played a fine pass to Scott, but the ball was intercepted because Scott was on his heels. Groans towards Wright were unfair in my opinion.

Scott – On the pitch for fifteen minutes all told and made not the blindest difference to our attacking play.

Shaun Maloney – Folk near me were calling for his head after United scored. Harsh in the extreme but unless we play as we did in the second half for the whole game at Tynecastle, those calls will just grow louder.

Referee – Don Robertson booked Mueller for simulation but totally ignored the fact that he’d waved play on when Tony Watt dived.

DaveF
02-04-2022, 06:19 PM
I'm glad you pointed out that Robertson ignored the Watt dive yet booked Mueller for diving. Inconsistent crap like this does everyones head in.

Hiber-nation
02-04-2022, 06:37 PM
Re the Wright ball to Scott, you were totally correct, that was Scott's fault and it was him that was getting all the flak from folk around me, not Wright. No idea why Maloney brought either of them on.

Jonnyboy
02-04-2022, 06:39 PM
Re the Wright ball to Scott, you were totally correct, that was Scott's fault and it was him that was getting all the flak from folk around me, not Wright. No idea why Maloney brought either of them on.

And rightly so :greengrin Some folk around me were calling out Drey Wright for it :agree:

Golden Bear
02-04-2022, 06:46 PM
Jasper took a loud one after 20 minutes. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find he's the latest addition to the injury list.

BILLYHIBS
02-04-2022, 06:49 PM
Good report as always Jonnyboy

I thought the Hoff should have won it for us at the death

We move on

Bring on the Jambo’s !

007
02-04-2022, 06:52 PM
Thanks JB.

Looking forward to seeing the highlights (if it makes it) of Tony Watt kicking Doig's leg(s) away to get the ball. Seemed to me much like the one Porteous's got a red for v Aberdeen yet Watt's wasn't even deemed a foul by that effin clown Don Robertson.

B.H.F.C
02-04-2022, 06:52 PM
Jasper took a loud one after 20 minutes. I wouldn't at all be surprised to find he's the latest addition to the injury list.

He was a doubt for the game so when he went off I thought it was maybe down to that.

Smartie
02-04-2022, 07:03 PM
Re the Wright ball to Scott, you were totally correct, that was Scott's fault and it was him that was getting all the flak from folk around me, not Wright. No idea why Maloney brought either of them on.

The reason I think Wright was taking abuse there was because he had a fairly easy ball forward to a man in space on the left - who he didn’t see. Instead he went right, where it was more congested. It wasn’t a bad ball and he was let down by Scott, but I think folk were mostly frustrated that he hadn’t spotted the opportunity the other way.

thebakerboy
02-04-2022, 07:14 PM
From the FF upper it looked like Mueller exagerated his fall if he had just gone straight down probably would have got pen because he was fouled

Paulie Walnuts
02-04-2022, 07:19 PM
Thanks JB.

Looking forward to seeing the highlights (if it makes it) of Tony Watt kicking Doig's leg(s) away to get the ball. Seemed to me much like the one Porteous's got a red for v Aberdeen yet Watt's wasn't even deemed a foul by that effin clown Don Robertson.

If it was the one infront of the dugouts I didn’t think it was a foul from my seat in the west.

Paulie Walnuts
02-04-2022, 07:20 PM
The reason I think Wright was taking abuse there was because he had a fairly easy ball forward to a man in space on the left - who he didn’t see. Instead he went right, where it was more congested. It wasn’t a bad ball and he was let down by Scott, but I think folk were mostly frustrated that he hadn’t spotted the opportunity the other way.

Yeah, the ball had to go to Mueller out left. Really poor decision making or awareness if he didn’t see him.

Tarrahib
02-04-2022, 07:53 PM
I'm glad you pointed out that Robertson ignored the Watt dive yet booked Mueller for diving. Inconsistent crap like this does everyones head in.
I counted out that Watt had committed 8 fouls before he finally got booked. Pathetic refereeing,

O'Rourke3
02-04-2022, 08:42 PM
Good stuff JB. Kevin had no chance with the header. Watt should have been booked for applauding the ref long before diving. He was winding everyone up on the pitch. Clear pen but Mueller's fall didnt help the cause. There had been two long stoppages second half and loads of subs so 6 mins was about right

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IberianHibernian
02-04-2022, 09:03 PM
Thanks for report . Jasper may have had a knock before today . He went off in Bulgaria Under 21 game midweek and didn`t seem to be at his best today . Mueller would have been my MOM but Clarke showed what we`ve been missing the last few months and what he can add to team till summer .

Tyler Durden
02-04-2022, 10:04 PM
At Utds goal the initial free kick should be headed clear by Rocky but he misses the header. It's fine margins but he can't win a header and he's just not particularly good. Not someone I have any faith in for a derby unfortunately.

Coco Bryce
02-04-2022, 10:15 PM
James Scott - Utter *****.

Corrected that for you.

The Harp Awakes
02-04-2022, 10:30 PM
Re the Wright ball to Scott, you were totally correct, that was Scott's fault and it was him that was getting all the flak from folk around me, not Wright. No idea why Maloney brought either of them on.

Me neither. If Maloney thinks either of these 2 are going to come on and change the game it's worrying. Bringing on a couple of lads from the 18s would be a better option.

Paulie Walnuts
02-04-2022, 10:44 PM
At Utds goal the initial free kick should be headed clear by Rocky but he misses the header. It's fine margins but he can't win a header and he's just not particularly good. Not someone I have any faith in for a derby unfortunately.

I also thought Doig should have done better with the goal. Thought Watt got the cross in far too easy. Hanlon also got caught under the ball.

A disappointing 20 second period of play with a good few players who should have done better.

007
02-04-2022, 11:03 PM
I counted out that Watt had committed 8 fouls before he finally got booked. Pathetic refereeing,

Yeah, a booking in the 90th minute is meaningless. Hardly walking a tightrope when it is almost full time.

NAE NOOKIE
02-04-2022, 11:16 PM
A real game of two halves ... in the first Hibs were absolutely terrible and only Clarke's equaliser stopped the team getting booed off IMO ... in the second we were far better, though it's hard to see how we could have been worse.

Nobody really stood out, but overall the players get some credit for taking control of the game for most of the second half and actually putting United under some sustained pressure, it doesn't matter how many times Melkerson will replay that chance in his head, it simply wont get any better and he'll just have to forget it and move on.

Cant comment on the penalty, but I can on James Scott ... it wasn't a brilliant pass by Wright, but it was clear the ball was slightly under hit and Scott just stood looking at it, he wasn't on his heels, he just made no attempt to move towards the ball, bloody schoolboy stuff, how anybody paid near on a million quid for this guy is baffling, why he even makes our bench when we have two promising kids at East Mains is even more baffling.

ozhibs
02-04-2022, 11:34 PM
Me neither. If Maloney thinks either of these 2 are going to come on and change the game it's worrying. Bringing on a couple of lads from the 18s would be a better option.

My thoughts exactly, it seems like playing 2players down, really surprised Joe Newell was subbed

GGTTH

JammyDoidger
03-04-2022, 12:19 AM
Tripe. Just tripe. Same story every week. Pass, pass, going nowhere, eventually get the ball in the box. Where it's cleared because we have about 2 in there if your lucky. Or it misses everyone, and that's our attacking threat. We have no one capable of shooting from distance, and please no one say Doyle-Hayes he's done it in one game. Corners, we don't look threatening, I don't see the point in Jasper or whoever else is playing on the other side, they don't do enough for me. I'd sacrifice they two 10's if you like and just go doidge and melkersen, the Wing backs are out threat anyway. At least if they cross the ball they'll have 2 strikers to aim for. This is rank atm.

Jonnyboy
03-04-2022, 09:17 AM
I also thought Doig should have done better with the goal. Thought Watt got the cross in far too easy. Hanlon also got caught under the ball.

A disappointing 20 second period of play with a good few players who should have done better.

I think it was Clarke and not Doig that failed to stop the cross coming in

OldEast
03-04-2022, 09:19 AM
I think it was Clarke and not Doig that failed to stop the cross coming in

It was Clarke. Oh for a defender who can stop a cross.

CockneyRebel
03-04-2022, 12:52 PM
At Utds goal the initial free kick should be headed clear by Rocky but he misses the header. It's fine margins but he can't win a header and he's just not particularly good. Not someone I have any faith in for a derby unfortunately.


This was stated on here quite a few times lately so I watched him yesterday and thought he won plenty headers against some stiff challenges. Not to say he's the bees knees though.

JohnM1875
03-04-2022, 01:51 PM
I think it was Clarke and not Doig that failed to stop the cross coming in

It was indeed. Guys I sit with spent most of the game slating Doig for not stopping the ball. Only found out when they watched the highlights that it was Clarke! Have to say, I thought it was Doig as well.

Jonnyboy
03-04-2022, 02:41 PM
I said I wasn’t sure about the Mueller incident but I’ve seen it now and reckon there was enough contact for a penalty.

mokie
03-04-2022, 02:49 PM
I said I wasn’t sure about the Mueller incident but I’ve seen it now and reckon there was enough contact for a penalty.


I think that also but don’t you think on reflection, that mueller exaggerated the fall hence why the penalty wasn’t given ??

JohnM1875
03-04-2022, 02:52 PM
I think that also but don’t you think on reflection, that mueller exaggerated the fall hence why the penalty wasn’t given ??

Few folk have said this so not having a go at you but I just don't understand it. Be as theatrical as you want, if there's contact then it's a foul.

mokie
03-04-2022, 02:55 PM
Few folk have said this so not having a go at you but I just don't understand it. Be as theatrical as you want, if there's contact then it's a foul.


my point being , if mueller hadn’t been as theatrical then there’s more chance of getting the decision rather than the official thinking that’s it’s a dive.

Jonnyboy
03-04-2022, 02:57 PM
I think that also but don’t you think on reflection, that mueller exaggerated the fall hence why the penalty wasn’t given ??

Some may think that, aye but a foul is a foul regardless of how a player might react

scoopyboy
03-04-2022, 03:40 PM
Maloney baffles me with his substitutions.

At the end of the games the team loses all shape and nobody seems to know where they should be playing.

JohnM1875
03-04-2022, 03:51 PM
Maloney baffles me with his substitutions.

At the end of the games the team loses all shape and nobody seems to know where they should be playing.

There was a notible lull after we took off Newell late on. Players didn't really seem to know where they were playing. I get it was an attacking sub (opinions on James Scott aside). But we were doing well and creating chances so don't think it was really needed.

B.H.F.C
03-04-2022, 03:55 PM
There was a notible lull after we took off Newell late on. Players didn't really seem to know where they were playing. I get it was an attacking sub (opinions on James Scott aside). But we were doing well and creating chances so don't think it was really needed.

I never really got the feeling we were disorganised after those subs yesterday (has been the case before when we’ve made five of them or whatever). Thought yesterday the lull was just a result of bringing two players on who contribute zero.

JohnM1875
03-04-2022, 03:59 PM
I never really got the feeling we were disorganised after those subs yesterday (has been the case before when we’ve made five of them or whatever). Thought yesterday the lull was just a result of bringing two players on who contribute zero.

I actually thought Wright was decent when he came on but he's never going to be a game changer.

Maybe not disorganised but for about 10 minutes or so we were noticibely flatter. Probably just the ebb and flow of a football game more than anything else I guess.

B.H.F.C
03-04-2022, 04:06 PM
I actually thought Wright was decent when he came on but he's never going to be a game changer.

Maybe not disorganised but for about 10 minutes or so we were noticibely flatter. Probably just the ebb and flow of a football game more than anything else I guess.

We were definitely flat towards the end. We don’t have it in us to really go for it. We rarely sustain any pressure on the opposition.

Blaster
03-04-2022, 04:34 PM
Newell was taking the ball and driving us forward, but we lost that when he went off. Nobody else able to do that

Smartie
03-04-2022, 04:41 PM
Newell was taking the ball and driving us forward, but we lost that when he went off. Nobody else able to do that

You’d have thought that putting Lewis Stevenson on for him in a like for like move would have made more sense if we were looking for more of the same?

JimBHibees
03-04-2022, 04:55 PM
Maloney baffles me with his substitutions.

At the end of the games the team loses all shape and nobody seems to know where they should be playing.

Some strange ones yesterday. Personally would have brought Lewis on instead of Wright . No way would Newell have been coming off for Scott as he was our best midfielder. That move brought Henderson deeper also who I thought brought a bit of quality to our attacking play second half the weight of his passing is superb but he needs to kick on and claim a starting space imo. To be honest some players should be getting game time if we are short not being seen as game changers and weakening the team when they come on.

ancient hibee
03-04-2022, 05:34 PM
It was indeed. Guys I sit with spent most of the game slating Doig for not stopping the ball. Only found out when they watched the highlights that it was Clarke! Have to say, I thought it was Doig as well.


If you and your pals can't tell Doig from Clarke Specsavers have got a good deal on:greengrin

JohnM1875
03-04-2022, 05:37 PM
If you and your pals can't tell Doig from Clarke Specsavers have got a good deal on:greengrin

Haha! I'm only 33 as well so can't even blame age for it.

Cat Stanton
03-04-2022, 07:13 PM
The usual thanks for the usual great, helpful, report.

I couldn't make the game yesterday (for reasons too dull to go into) but what really struck me reading this report, the match thread and then watching the Hibs TV highlights, is how **** the sportscene highlights were. They miss out quite a lot..

Highwayman
04-04-2022, 06:31 PM
Walking away from ER on Saturday after the match,I overheard a member of the knee jerker brigade declare “see that Melkerson,he’s a one hit wonder.Another dud.

Ah well Just Another Saturday.

Smartie
04-04-2022, 07:58 PM
Walking away from ER on Saturday after the match,I overheard a member of the knee jerker brigade declare “see that Melkerson,he’s a one hit wonder.Another dud.

Ah well Just Another Saturday.

It was my first proper look at Melkerson on Saturday.

Very raw, at times I didn’t think he looked like he knew what he was doing.

Once or twice though he had a lovely wee feint/ shimmy thing to take a man on and create space for the shot. Reminded me of Benji in some ways.

He needs games and he needs to learn by playing football regularly. Obviously the miss at the end was a bit of a shocker but I thought it looked like there was a player in there.

Billy Whizz
04-04-2022, 08:05 PM
It was my first proper look at Melkerson on Saturday.

Very raw, at times I didn’t think he looked like he knew what he was doing.

Once or twice though he had a lovely wee feint/ shimmy thing to take a man on and create space for the shot. Reminded me of Benji in some ways.

He needs games and he needs to learn by playing football regularly. Obviously the miss at the end was a bit of a shocker but I thought it looked like there was a player in there.

There’s definitely a player in him

Tambo
04-04-2022, 08:42 PM
Walking away from ER on Saturday after the match,I overheard a member of the knee jerker brigade declare “see that Melkerson,he’s a one hit wonder.Another dud.

Ah well Just Another Saturday.

Definitely should of had a goal Saturday, he has good movement and a eye for goal which some will go in the back of the net and some won't. Did he have about 3 chances from what I remember? The miss at the end, a good effort after going past his player and one tame effort?

I thought Mueller was much better than he has been but overall I'm a bit disappointed at some of his performances so far this season but will give him the beneft of a new environment and not being up to speed when he arrived.

Clarke has some pressure on him to perform like that in the next two games but he looks a good player. Could we use Cadden in the middle with his engine? And play Clarke on the Right?

First half was pathetic but credit for the second half performance but again we are lacking that cutting edge in the final third and no one can say we never created much.

Smartie
04-04-2022, 09:00 PM
Definitely should of had a goal Saturday, he has good movement and a eye for goal which some will go in the back of the net and some won't. Did he have about 3 chances from what I remember? The miss at the end, a good effort after going past his player and one tame effort?

I thought Mueller was much better than he has been but overall I'm a bit disappointed at some of his performances so far this season but will give him the beneft of a new environment and not being up to speed when he arrived.

Clarke has some pressure on him to perform like that in the next two games but he looks a good player. Could we use Cadden in the middle with his engine? And play Clarke on the Right?

First half was pathetic but credit for the second half performance but again we are lacking that cutting edge in the final third and no one can say we never created much.


I thought Mueller was little better than abysmal over the 90 minutes.

He made an excellent tackle in his own box and did well to set up Melkerson’s sitter but they were both within the last 5 minutes which probably leave us thinking he played better than he did.

For the first 85 minutes I thought he was all over the shop. Touch was off, decision making poor, struggled to beat a man, didn’t look like he knew how to play the position.

We need much, much better from him.