Hibernian suffer more cards per foul

[CockneyRebel]

Scotsman article quoting that stats show that Hibernian get more cards (red and yellow) per foul than any other club. Celtic get the least (gasp). I can't delve inside the article as I am not a subscriber but can't find it anywhere else just now.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Doesn’t hugely surprise me.

Some of the stuff teams get away with against us is incredible.

[brog]

Scotsman article quoting that stats show that Hibernian get more cards (red and yellow) per foul than any other club. Celtic get the least (gasp). I can't delve inside the article as I am not a subscriber but can't find it anywhere else just now.

I think it was us and St J who were top of the league. Amazingly, Celtc were bottom followed by guess who! Our recent game against them was a perfect illustration where they committed 9 fouls (to zero) before Starfelt was booked for the foul on Nisbet.

[Paulie Walnuts]

I think it was us and St J who were top of the league. Amazingly, Celtc were bottom followed by guess who! Our recent game against them was a perfect illustration where they committed 9 fouls (to zero) before Starfelt was booked for the foul on Nisbet.

That game was ridiculous.

I’ve never seen an OF team foul quite like it.

[CockneyRebel]

Most supporters feel that their team is unfairly treated by officials but stats like this show the refs up for the cheats/buffoons/incompetents (take your pick) that they really are.

[Heisenberg]

Looks like the McGinn thing after the cup final and Kensell moaning at Crawford Allan has really had an impact.

[The dalmeny]

Pie and bovril do these stats most weeks on Twitter

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[Danderhall Hibs]

Looks like the McGinn thing after the cup final and Kensell moaning at Crawford Allan has really had an impact.

Plays a massive part in it - the refs all meet up and have chats about it. No doubt that’s why we’re getting penalised more or booked quicker than everyone else.

[PatHead]

The thing is that these figures don't even take into account the number of times that a foul isn't given. Plenty of times I have seen fouls not given against the Old Firm.

[Keith_M]

Maybe our players only ever commit brutal fouls.



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[Carheenlea]

The top 5 on that list are basically Scotland’s favoured clubs. Just listen to sportsound on any given Saturday and those are the clubs that are championed every week.

[theonlywayisup]

Maybe our players only ever commit brutal fouls.



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That's the thing though! I can't recall many really bad challenges. Probably more likely that ours are for the sneaky wee disrupt play type of bookings.

[Since90+2]

The top 5 on that list are basically Scotland’s favoured clubs. Just listen to sportsound on any given Saturday and those are the clubs that are championed every week.

Motherwell?

[basehibby]

Maybe our players only ever commit brutal fouls.

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:faf::faf::faf: - Hardly!

Hibs are hardly a team of hammer throwers - the opposite if anything. I can't remember refs ever being kind to us over the years and it seems that calling the problem out has only made it worse. It does not help that the Weedgia have decided on a mud slinging campaign against one of our most important defenders.

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[MartinfaePorty]

I'll try and temper my language here, but Crawford Allan is, and always has been, 'not a very nice' person, with a gigantic ego. I first heard this from work colleagues of his when he started as a lineman, back in the early 1990s. Later on I had evidence of this myself. He will never admit he, or the SFA, are ever in the wrong.

[wookie70]

Plays a massive part in it - the refs all meet up and have chats about it. No doubt that’s why we’re getting penalised more or booked quicker than everyone else. Gerrard never stopped moaning about refs. I have never seen a team get away with as many red card fouls as The Rangers do. If it wasn't obvious before the game in Scotland is rigged and it is never a surprise to see Hibs at the bottom of every table where stats are shown to demonstrate where ref may be penalising some teams more than others. We pretty much get a red for every debatable challenge. Porteous is treated differently to every other player in teh league, just look at some of the nonsense Morelos has got away with to see how bent the refs are.

[JimBHibees]

I'll try and temper my language here, but Crawford Allan is, and always has been, 'not a very nice' person, with a gigantic ego. I first heard this from work colleagues of his when he started as a lineman, back in the early 1990s. Later on I had evidence of this myself. He will never admit he, or the SFA, are ever in the wrong.

Terrible referee and probably a yam.

[A Hi-Bee]

Maybe our players only ever commit brutal fouls.



/s

Nope we only ever commit frivolous fouls, it is now offyshiall from the GFA.
:greengrin

[Johnny_Leith]

I don't think we were anywhere near the bottom (or top?) Of this league until the last few weeks. Midtable until Paul McGinn rightly called out the cup final bull****. Makes you wonder.

[loanheadhibby]

The top 5 on that list are basically Scotland’s favoured clubs. Just listen to sportsound on any given Saturday and those are the clubs that are championed every week.
Come on are you serious, that's pretty pathetic if you are.

[oldbutdim]

Come on are you serious, that's pretty pathetic if you are.

Four out of five isn’t too bad.

[Lago]

Doesn’t hugely surprise me.

Some of the stuff teams get away with against us is incredible.
It will never change, it's always been this way since I stated going to games 50+ years ago.

[PatHead]

It will never change, it's always been this way since I stated going to games 50+ years ago.

When you read the history of Hibs books we have always had a raw deal from the establishment.

[WeeRussell]

Most supporters feel that their team is unfairly treated by officials but stats like this show the refs up for the cheats/buffoons/incompetents (take your pick) that they really are.

It doesn’t really show anything of the sort though does it? Not the stats on their own anyway. (Not that I’m saying I disagree with your conclusion 😁)

There’s always going to be one team in the position we are. It’s never going to be an equal stat for every team as not all fouls are bookings.

[Kato]

Come on are you serious, that's pretty pathetic if you are.It's true.

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[Pagan Hibernia]

When you read the history of Hibs books we have always had a raw deal from the establishment.

historically, and I’m talking ancient history here, that was certainly the case. They didn’t want an Irish team near the place.

but today? What possible threat do Hibernian FC pose to the establishment? We can’t even pose a threat to an opposing defence ffs.

[Pagan Hibernia]

The thing is that these figures don't even take into account the number of times that a foul isn't given. Plenty of times I have seen fouls not given against the Old Firm.

not only that, an old firm foul against one of our players in our own box often results in a penalty for them.

[Kato]

historically, and I’m talking ancient history here, that was certainly the case. They didn’t want an Irish team near the place.

but today? What possible threat do Hibernian FC pose to the establishment? We can’t even pose a threat to an opposing defence ffs.What does a supposed threat mean when you have mean spirited bigots in charge of every aspect of senior refereeing.

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[CockneyRebel]

It doesn’t really show anything of the sort though does it? Not the stats on their own anyway. (Not that I’m saying I disagree with your conclusion 😁)

There’s always going to be one team in the position we are. It’s never going to be an equal stat for every team as not all fouls are bookings.


Especially if you play for the OF.

[Victor]

I believe that it is only human nature that if you perceive someone holds a grudge against you, you are going to treat them differently. All Scottish referees will know that Hibs (quite rightly, in my opinion) complained to their governing body about their performances. Therefore, it should not be a surprise that they will be more likely to book a Hibs player for a foul, that would see a player from another club warned.


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[Carheenlea]

Motherwell?

Yes, they receive a lot of goodwill.

[brog]

There was a season, in the early 70s possibly, when the uglies went through the whole domestic season without conceding a penalty. They both played a few games in Europe and conceded 5 or 6 in total. I believe there's a similar disparity with The Rangers this season domestically/Europe re cards and penalties. There's only one thing to remember, no Scottish referee will ever face a sanction for making an incorrect decision in favour of the OF versus a non OF team. Conscious or not, that is corruption.

[A Hi-Bee]

There was a season, in the early 70s possibly, when the uglies went through the whole domestic season without conceding a penalty. They both played a few games in Europe and conceded 5 or 6 in total. I believe there's a similar disparity with The Rangers this season domestically/Europe re cards and penalties. There's only one thing to remember, no Scottish referee will ever face a sanction for making an incorrect decision in favour of the OF versus a non OF team. Conscious or not, that is corruption.

:top marks:top marks and adding VAR will just give them twice the opportunity to load the dice even more, as if they really need it with the financial advantage the already hold.

[worcesterhibby]

To be honest it's the standard of refereeing in this country that is most likely to drive me away from football. So often I come away from games feeling like we have been cheated and it just begins to make the experience really unpleasant. I can cope with Hibs playing crap much better, there's always hope we will get better players, Managers ideas will begin to click etc..but the raw deal we get from Refs just makes me want to go fishing and chill out, rather than spend a fortune on travel getting to Edinburgh only to see us cheated and feel bitter.

[Waxy]

It would be good to see the stats for this over several seasons.

[CentreLine]

:top marks:top marks and adding VAR will just give them twice the opportunity to load the dice even more, as if they really need it with the financial advantage the already hold.

VAR, when it comes in, needs to be reviewed by an independent referee from
Outside of Scotland.

[blackpoolhibs]

Four out of five isn’t too bad.

I wonder if Meatloaf would agree?

[Alfred E Newman]

Motherwell?

Tam Cowan and his slavering sidekick Cosgrove. He could could be fool you into thinking St Johnstone were Scotland’s answer to Real Madrid.

[Keith_M]

:faf::faf::faf: - Hardly!

Hibs are hardly a team of hammer throwers - the opposite if anything. I can't remember refs ever being kind to us over the years and it seems that calling the problem out has only made it worse. It does not help that the Weedgia have decided on a mud slinging campaign against one of our most important defenders.



It was sarcasm

[Argylehibby]

Rangers have a grievance against a referees performance over several games and go public with it and authorities do nothing including publicly supporting the ref. Hibs player says a referees performance in one game was inept and gets banned.

If your a ref what does that tell you and how does that influence your performance in the future? Don't upset the Rangers or your on your own to face the criticism but if its a club outside the uglies we'll make sure they learn a lesson not to criticise you. Who are you going to give 50/50 or in reality 75/25 decisions to?

[brog]

Rangers have a grievance against a referees performance over several games and go public with it and authorities do nothing including publicly supporting the ref. Hibs player says a referees performance in one game was inept and gets banned.

If your a ref what does that tell you and how does that influence your performance in the future? Don't upset the Rangers or your on your own to face the criticism but if its a club outside the uglies we'll make sure they learn a lesson not to criticise you. Who are you going to give 50/50 or in reality 75/25 decisions to?

100% correct.

[Alfred E Newman]

Rangers have a grievance against a referees performance over several games and go public with it and authorities do nothing including publicly supporting the ref. Hibs player says a referees performance in one game was inept and gets banned.

If your a ref what does that tell you and how does that influence your performance in the future? Don't upset the Rangers or your on your own to face the criticism but if its a club outside the uglies we'll make sure they learn a lesson not to criticise you. Who are you going to give 50/50 or in reality 75/25 decisions to?

That’s it in a nutshell.