Nisbet out for 9 months!

[timewilltell]

As it says.

[Scottie]

As it says.
FFS that’s all we need. Where you seeing that bud ?

[Billy Whizz]

FFS that’s all we need. Where you seeing that bud ?

Hibs twitter. Shame for the lad and Hibs

Do we know exactly what his injury is?

[timewilltell]

Hibs striker Kevin Nisbet will
be out for seven to nine months following knee surgery

Anthony Joseph Sky Sports .

[Stevie Reid]

No really a surprise given the nature of the injury. Massive blow, though.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Hibs twitter. Shame for the lad and Hibs

Do we know exactly what his injury is?

It's usually 6-9 months for a ACL tear so probably that, not seen the article though so could be wrong

Edit confirmed as ACL

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/nisbets-message-to-hibs-fans-after-undergoing-surgery-3607755

[Sir David Gray]

Hibs twitter. Shame for the lad and Hibs

Do we know exactly what his injury is?

Have Hibs deleted the tweet? I can't see that information on there just now.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

That's brutal. Particularly for Kevin who would be hoping to go to the WC in December!

And for us, a good performance there would add value

[A Hi-Bee]

That's brutal. Particularly for Kevin who would be hoping to go to the WC in December!

And for us, a good performance there would add value

Yes real bad luck for Kev, and not a peep in public from the celic **** who crocked him, everyone agrees it was a real bad tackle and all he got was booked, ffs.

[hibbysam]

Brutal luck for the boy in what could’ve been the biggest year of his life. Many top players have recovered and went on to do well after this so hopefully he sticks to the plan, works his arse off and comes back even better.

[SteveHFC]

Oh ffs.

We need to spend big in the summer.

[Billy Whizz]

Have Hibs deleted the tweet? I can't see that information on there just now.

Still on
https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1502286884101410819?s=21

[flash]

Yes real bad luck for Kev, and not a peep in public from the celic **** who crocked him, everyone agrees it was a real bad tackle and all he got was booked, ffs.

It wasn't really that bad a tackle.

[B.H.F.C]

It wasn't really that bad a tackle.

Agree, was just bad luck. Been worse tackles in the two games that followed that should have been red cards and the players got up absolutely fine.

[Stevie Reid]

Agreed. Was a cynical foul to break up the game. Don't believe it was malicious.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Nae world cup for Kev then, if it goes ahead that is (and we qualify)

[JimBHibees]

Agreed. Was a cynical foul to break up the game. Don't believe it was malicious.

While undoubtedly the case the referee certainly didn't help with allowing similar cynical fouls go unpunished beforehand. Hopefully comes back better than ever. Bad blow for the player and us as thought he was doing well in more recent games highlighted with his excellent goal in the last cup tie at a vital time in the game.

[brog]

Agree, was just bad luck. Been worse tackles in the two games that followed that should have been red cards and the players got up absolutely fine.

Agreed but Carter Vickers should have been booked earlier for a worse foul and for a deliberate pull back just outside the box. Clancy's leniency gave Starfelt the licence to make that challenge and we and Kevin have suffered as a result.

[Sir David Gray]

Still on
https://twitter.com/hibernianfc/status/1502286884101410819?s=21

Thanks I saw that tweet, apologies for possibly being a bit thick but I can't see any confirmation in the tweet that he'll be out for 9 months?

[MWHIBBIES]

Brutal. Injuries from this season already hurting next season. Good luck with the recovery Kevin. Come back firing.

On a side note, 9 month injury and he was walking off. What is the strecher actually for? Seriously...

[Billy Whizz]

Thanks I saw that tweet, apologies for possibly being a bit thick but I can't see any confirmation in the tweet that he'll be out for 9 months?

I agree re the time out, but it was the OP who put this timescale on

[JamesHFC]

At least two new strikers needed in the summer then.

[Sir David Gray]

I agree re the time out, but it was the OP who put this timescale on

OK thanks it was just when you replied saying Hibs had put it on Twitter to someone who had asked the OP where they had seen the news about him being out for 9 months, I was looking for a tweet from Hibs regarding timescales hence my confusion.

Thanks for clearing it up.

[MWHIBBIES]

At least two new strikers needed in the summer then.

We play with 1 striker. We currently have 2, and a 3rd injured. We aren't going to go 5 strikers for 1 spot.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

That's a real shame. Hopefully he comes back fitter and stronger.

[Paulie Walnuts]

We play with 1 striker. We currently have 2, and a 3rd injured. We aren't going to go 5 strikers for 1 spot.

Is Doidge not out of contract in the summer?

If so that leaves us with Melkersen. I’d say that leaves us still needing two in the summer.

[Billy Whizz]

Is Doidge not out of contract in the summer?

If so that leaves us with Melkersen. I’d say that leaves us still needing two in the summer.

Doidge signed a new contract this season
Wonder if Hibs will offer Kevin a new one too

[Booked4Being-Ugly]

Is Doidge not out of contract in the summer?

If so that leaves us with Melkersen. I’d say that leaves us still needing two in the summer.

No, Doidge signed an extension.

[JamesHFC]

We play with 1 striker. We currently have 2, and a 3rd injured. We aren't going to go 5 strikers for 1 spot.

I think Doidge be away.

[hibbysam]

We play with 1 striker. We currently have 2, and a 3rd injured. We aren't going to go 5 strikers for 1 spot.

Unless Doidge turns a corner, which is unlikely, then he won’t be included. Maloney already said he needs a massive improvement in this department.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Really bad news, given how badly we are struggling for goals. A huge blow for the player, too.

[A Hi-Bee]

It wasn't really that bad a tackle.

Will agree to disagree on that one, was just quoting our manager.

[MWHIBBIES]

Unless Doidge turns a corner, which is unlikely, then he won’t be included. Maloney already said he needs a massive improvement in this department.


Why is it unlikely? I wouldn't say its any less likely than Melkerson suddenly being a star. Doidge is far more proven than he is.

Doidge could score sunday and go on a good run. He isn't suddenly a bad player.

[CapitalGreen]

Why is it unlikely? I wouldn't say its any less likely than Melkerson suddenly being a star. Doidge is far more proven than he is.

Doidge could score sunday and go on a good run. He isn't suddenly a bad player.

Been waiting for nearly 4 months for him to score and suddenly go on a good run.

[Sir David Gray]

Maloney expects Nisbet to make the World Cup if Scotland qualify so we're looking at him being out for less than nine months by the sounds of things which would be a positive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60711521

[MWHIBBIES]

Been waiting for nearly 4 months for him to score and suddenly go on a good run.

And yet, all I've said is still true.

[WeeRussell]

And yet, all I've said is still true.

Nah. Right now it’s definitely more likely that Melkerson will be a good striker for us than Doidge. In my opinion.

[Lago]

I think Doidge be away.
So do i

[Ronniekirk]

It’s a blow for the player and the club
If Doidge doesn’t regain his pre injury form it means we go into next season minus our top three goal scorers from last season ( think it was 33 goals between them )
Merkelson is still young but by the end of this season we should have an idea how he is shaping up for next season
But Maloney needs three scoring forward players starting the season
Our current wide players don’t chip in with many goals and Niether do the midfield .Mcgennis will need to get back playing this season but can we rely on him staying fit ?
It’s all making the next window a crucial one to how we start the season


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[hibbysam]

Why is it unlikely? I wouldn't say its any less likely than Melkerson suddenly being a star. Doidge is far more proven than he is.

Doidge could score sunday and go on a good run. He isn't suddenly a bad player.

Because he’s never played in this type of system, he’s not that type of player. He looked like he was towing the proverbial caravan last week. He couldn’t look further away from scoring just now. Even if he goes on a run of scoring, he’s not going to be high up Maloneys thinking when he’s already confirmed he needs investment in this area.

[MWHIBBIES]

Because he’s never played in this type of system, he’s not that type of player. He looked like he was towing the proverbial caravan last week. He couldn’t look further away from scoring just now. Even if he goes on a run of scoring, he’s not going to be high up Maloneys thinking when he’s already confirmed he needs investment in this area.

What system? We currently play endless amounts of crosses, we aren't some quick passing side around the box. We get it wide and cross it constantly. Doidge will score goals in this system.

[MWHIBBIES]

Nah. Right now it’s definitely more likely that Melkerson will be a good striker for us than Doidge. In my opinion.

Doidge has already been a good striker for us for 2 years.

Sadly, Melkerson has hardly kicked a ball so far so we'll see how he goes. Right now, I'd wish we'd spent 400k on someone who could offer something this season...

[Centre Hawf]

Doidge has already been a good striker for us for 2 years.

Sadly, Melkerson has hardly kicked a ball so far so we'll see how he goes. Right now, I'd wish we'd spent 400k on someone who could offer something this season...

Doidge has been a patchy forward for us for 2 years. He has spells of good games and goals and far longer spells without one. I fear his injury has put him firmly in the camp of probably having seen his best days behind him, which being honest wasn't exactly amazing anyway. So anything less certainly doesn't fill me with confidence of him leading the line for 9 months.

[angus hibby]

He knew straight away it was serious. Michael Stewart had a wee dig on radio about him signalling straight away he wanted physio, then walking off! Radio guys more or less suggesting it wasn’t as bad as Nisbet had thought.

[MWHIBBIES]

Doidge has been a patchy forward for us for 2 years. He has spells of good games and goals and far longer spells without one. I fear his injury has put him firmly in the camp of probably having seen his best days behind him, which being honest wasn't exactly amazing anyway. So anything less certainly doesn't fill me with confidence of him leading the line for 9 months.

Doidge at his best was certainly amazing. Short memories on here.

[WeeRussell]

Doidge has been a patchy forward for us for 2 years. He has spells of good games and goals and far longer spells without one. I fear his injury has put him firmly in the camp of probably having seen his best days behind him, which being honest wasn't exactly amazing anyway. So anything less certainly doesn't fill me with confidence of him leading the line for 9 months.

I think his is fairly close to reality. My opinion is that one or two posters had an inflated opinion of Christian when he was in better form for us, and now don’t fancy conceding that he wasn’t actually as good as they made out, or that right now he is showing nothing. And I totally get it.

I think we’d all love to see the big man start banging them in. But if the best arguments in his favour are that he’s a good guy and celebrates his teammates goals, then he’s not currently good enough to start, for me.

If we persist with him on Sunday then I really, really hope he turns it on and proves us totally wrong. But I don’t think he should be starting Sunday.

[WeeRussell]

Doidge at his best was certainly amazing. Short memories on here.

My memory is of you being the only one on here that described him as “amazing”.

Decent player for us in spells. Nothing to do with short memories.

[Hibiza]

Nah. Right now it’s definitely more likely that Melkerson will be a good striker for us than Doidge. In my opinion.

👍

[MWHIBBIES]

My memory is of you being the only one on here that described him as “amazing”.

Decent player for us in spells. Nothing to do with short memories.

Na, plenty on here could see what a good player he was.

[A Hi-Bee]

I think his is fairly close to reality. My opinion is that one or two posters had an inflated opinion of Christian when he was in better form for us, and now don’t fancy conceding that he wasn’t actually as good as they made out, or that right now he is showing nothing. And I totally get it.

I think we’d all love to see the big man start banging them in. But if the best arguments in his favour are that he’s a good guy and celebrates his teammates goals, then he’s not currently good enough to start, for me.

If we persist with him on Sunday then I really, really hope he turns it on and proves us totally wrong. But I don’t think he should be starting Sunday.

Maloney has already said he will be looking for a proven goalscorer, if you listen to any of his interview you will hear. I dont think Doige is going to be part of that plan, he could turn it around by banging in lots of goals between now and the end of the season, make it difficult for Hibs to offload him, but I dont think this will happen, he will be off.
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[Lago]

Doidge at his best was certainly amazing. Short memories on here.
" amazing" bit of hyperbole on your part.

[MWHIBBIES]

" amazing" bit of hyperbole on your part.

His run between his first goals and the covid shutdown was excellent. As good a run as any Hibs striker, especially of his type.

[Lago]

His run between his first goals and the covid shutdown was excellent. As good a run as any Hibs striker, especially of his type.
What is his type, I've never worked that out, certainly not deadly in one on one with keeper situations 🤷*♂️

[Centre Hawf]

His run between his first goals and the covid shutdown was excellent. As good a run as any Hibs striker, especially of his type.

I'll concede when Doidge was on it and was scoring he was great to have. I think even in Jack Ross' system he was a very good defender at set pieces for us (probably helped contribute to us not conceding from one all year last season I believe?)

But let's not pretend he has always shown himself to be a massive asset to the club that we couldn't do without. In fact for majority of his Hibs career I can remember as many sitters and 1v1's he's missed as he has scored. That's not to say that makes him a bad player, but the flip side is I don't think the odd purple patch makes him a great player either.

I liked the guy and he provided us something a bit different from Boyle and Nisbet especially for a period, but since he's came back he's looked really out of his depth and hasn't shown any of the qualities he showed previously to warrant him playing over Melkersen if he isn't scoring goals.

[Callum_62]

Right before his injury there were some folk saying he should play instead of nisbet as he's a better player

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[WeeRussell]

Right before his injury there were some folk saying he should play instead of nisbet as he's a better player

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Yep, some also claimed he was a better striker than Shankland. They were equally as completely wrong too (in my humble opinion)

[LunasBoots]

We play with 1 striker. We currently have 2, and a 3rd injured. We aren't going to go 5 strikers for 1 spot.

We need two minimum in the summer, no pussy footing about

[MWHIBBIES]

Yep, some also claimed he was a better striker than Shankland. They were equally as completely wrong too (in my humble opinion)

Doidge leagues ahead, saw that in the games between us and united. Shankland couldn't lace his boots. Goal in the semi,winner in the league, Cup hattrick. Shankland MIA

[brog]

Doidge leagues ahead, saw that in the games between us and united. Shankland couldn't lace his boots. Goal in the semi,winner in the league, Cup hattrick. Shankland MIA

Now I really, really don't like ever criticising a Hibs player but I find your love affair with Christian baffling. I like him because he always gives 100% but jve always thought he was a fairly limited footballer. The question is, is the real CD the guy who had a brief halcyon period a year ago or is it the guy who right now looks absolutely lost. Unfortunately I suspect it's the latter though I desperately hope I'm wrong. If Scott is available on Sunday I expect him to start.

[WeeRussell]

Doidge leagues ahead, saw that in the games between us and united. Shankland couldn't lace his boots. Goal in the semi,winner in the league, Cup hattrick. Shankland MIA

I’ll concede he was missing in the league game - he wasn’t playing. Doidge had a couple of really good games against them for sure.

I won’t waste either of our energy pointing out that it’s not only goals hibs v Dundee United games that determine the quality of our strikers, as I think I recall you maintaining that Slivka was our best midfielder and there was no way Boyle was leaving hibs… and you were still right even after they were both away!

Quite happy to disagree and you can think you’re right that Christian Doidge is amazing and it’s worth us waiting for him to find form, and I’ll think I’m right in hoping we’ve got a striker with the scoring class of Shankland in Melkerson.

Either would be a result for Hibs.

[B.H.F.C]

Now I really, really don't like ever criticising a Hibs player but I find your love affair with Christian baffling. I like him because he always gives 100% but jve always thought he was a fairly limited footballer. The question is, is the real CD the guy who had a brief halcyon period a year ago or is it the guy who right now looks absolutely lost. Unfortunately I suspect it's the latter though I desperately hope I'm wrong. If Scott is available on Sunday I expect him to start.

Can’t see Scott starting but think Melkerson will, whether it’s in the same team as Doidge or instead of him.

Agree with your general point on Doidge though. Had a very good spell in his first season after a poor start. Read a lot about him being good last season but I don’t think he was for a lot of it. This season hampered by injury but there has to come a point where we look beyond that, he’s been back for long enough.

[MWHIBBIES]

Now I really, really don't like ever criticising a Hibs player but I find your love affair with Christian baffling. I like him because he always gives 100% but jve always thought he was a fairly limited footballer. The question is, is the real CD the guy who had a brief halcyon period a year ago or is it the guy who right now looks absolutely lost. Unfortunately I suspect it's the latter though I desperately hope I'm wrong. If Scott is available on Sunday I expect him to start.

No love affair. Good player. Nothing brief about it. Was quality that season and vital in us being 3rd last season.

[MWHIBBIES]

I’ll concede he was missing in the league game - he wasn’t playing. Doidge had a couple of really good games against them for sure.

I won’t waste either of our energy pointing out that it’s not only goals hibs v Dundee United games that determine the quality of our strikers, as I think I recall you maintaining that Slivka was our best midfielder and there was no way Boyle was leaving hibs… and you were still right even after they were both away!

Quite happy to disagree and you can think you’re right that Christian Doidge is amazing and it’s worth us waiting for him to find form, and I’ll think I’m right in hoping we’ve got a striker with the scoring class of Shankland in Melkerson.

Either would be a result for Hibs.

I wish I could call you out for things you posted years ago but I'm not that tragic.

Scoring class of shankland :faf: a rich man's Jason Cummings, nothing more. His spl record is abysmal.

You should really re-read my posts about Slivka and Boyle instead of posting rubbish. It was mainly the Celtic link I laughed at, as it was total rubbish. Can't say I saw a bid from a random Saudi mob. Slivka was a good player. His best games for Hibs were well above the likes of milligan, Mallan and Hyndman reached.

[WeeRussell]

I wish I could call you out for things you posted years ago but I'm not that tragic.

Scoring class of shankland :faf: a rich man's Jason Cummings, nothing more. His spl record is abysmal.

You should really re-read my posts about Slivka and Boyle instead of posting rubbish. It was mainly the Celtic link I laughed at, as it was total rubbish. Can't say I saw a bid from a random Saudi mob. Slivka was a good player. His best games for Hibs were well above the likes of milligan, Mallan and Hyndman reached.

Nothing tragic about it (especially when you want me to reread them). When a username is in block capitals and the posting style is more often than not uncompromising and often condescending, it’s easy for many to remember their favourite topics. And like I said, you’re still not wrong.. “mainly the Celtic link” 😂

By the way, I’m not complaining, I generally find it quite entertaining when simply spectating, as it were. I’m just not sure I’ve the stamina to be the latest to go a full page in a pointless argument where nobody wins, hence I agree to disagree - you think Doidge is amazing when in form, and has been in form most of his time at Hibs. I (and, as far as I can make out, the vast majority) don’t 👍 so, over to you to have the last word.

[hibbysam]

What system? We currently play endless amounts of crosses, we aren't some quick passing side around the box. We get it wide and cross it constantly. Doidge will score goals in this system.

The system where we need mobility in the centre forward, to drop in and link play, to run in behind at times. If you couldn’t see that he was miles off it last week and looked like a fish out of water fair play. Fine if we change to a two and he finds form, but even on form he’s nowhere near mobile enough for the current system that we play.

We put crosses on a plate for him last week and he never even made contact with his head.

[Keith_M]

Doidge did indeed have a fantastic spell at Hibs. The problem is he's played 24 games this season and scored a grand total of 2 goals.

Even if he hasn't actually started in all those games, surely nobody can argue that 1 goal every 12 games is good enough for a centre forward.

He either has to improve or we have to replace him with somebody more reliable.

[GreenCastle]

Doidge did indeed have a fantastic spell at Hibs. The problem is he's played 24 games this season and scored a grand total of 2 goals.

Even if he hasn't actually started in all those games, surely nobody can argue that 1 goal every 12 games is good enough for a centre forward.

He either has to improve or we have to replace him with somebody more reliable.

Has he really played 24 games ?

He hasn’t played 90 mins once as far as I’m aware.

78 mins against Hearts. The last 3 games he’s played the most regularly and we haven’t lost..but we also haven’t scored…created much.

We failed to bring in a striker in summer so Nisbet hardly had a rest = injured.

We brought in a striker in January but wasn’t ready - so now Doidge is having ti play more.

It’s the same with midfield - lack of recruitment mean certain players playing lots of games.

Summer recruitment we need more depth all over the pitch and robust players who can play games and also a striker (2 I would say minimum if Doidge stays) and central midfielder (2 minimum) who adds goals.

[Dmas]

The system where we need mobility in the centre forward, to drop in and link play, to run in behind at times. If you couldn’t see that he was miles off it last week and looked like a fish out of water fair play. Fine if we change to a two and he finds form, but even on form he’s nowhere near mobile enough for the current system that we play.

We put crosses on a plate for him last week and he never even made contact with his head.

I agree, it’s unfortunate but he’s no longer suited to what’s going on if he where to stay he’d be bit part coming off then bench when we’re chasing it and that’s no use as he’s a man that needs games and runs not 10-15mins here and there.

We’ll need to get someone in certainly can’t rely solely on Melkerson till nisbets back,big blow as the money that will cost could have been better served elsewhere especially midfield

[ekhibee]

I wish I could call you out for things you posted years ago but I'm not that tragic.

Scoring class of shankland :faf: a rich man's Jason Cummings, nothing more. His spl record is abysmal.

You should really re-read my posts about Slivka and Boyle instead of posting rubbish. It was mainly the Celtic link I laughed at, as it was total rubbish. Can't say I saw a bid from a random Saudi mob. Slivka was a good player. His best games for Hibs were well above the likes of milligan, Mallan and Hyndman reached.

Sorry, but Slivka was pretty average, no more than that. He had plenty of opportunities too, it wasn't like he never got a chance. Not a bad player, just not a particularly good one either. I'd agree with you re. the others though.

[MWHIBBIES]

Sorry, but Slivka was pretty average, no more than that. He had plenty of opportunities too, it wasn't like he never got a chance. Not a bad player, just not a particularly good one either. I'd agree with you re. the others though.

Slivkas best performances were better than those around him at the time, he did struggle with injury whenever he seemed to get a decent bit of form going.

Good player in my view, but probably not the right fit for us.

[A Hi-Bee]

Slivkas best performances were better than those around him at the time, he did struggle with injury whenever he seemed to get a decent bit of form going.

Good player in my view, but probably not the right fit for us.

I thought this thread was about our team losing a very good forward for up to nine months, yet you turn it into something else, like some school playground contest.
Good luck to Kev as it will be a long fight back for him.
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[MWHIBBIES]

I thought this thread was about our team losing a very good forward for up to nine months, yet you turn it into something else, like some school playground contest.
Good luck to Kev as it will be a long fight back for him.
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Yep, I'm the first one that mentioned Slivka right enough. Oh wait, that was someone else having a go at me. Like you've just done, further derailing the thread.

Bore off pal.

[Spudster]

Has he really played 24 games ?

He hasn’t played 90 mins once as far as I’m aware.

78 mins against Hearts. The last 3 games he’s played the most regularly and we haven’t lost..but we also haven’t scored…created much.

We failed to bring in a striker in summer so Nisbet hardly had a rest = injured.

We brought in a striker in January but wasn’t ready - so now Doidge is having ti play more.

It’s the same with midfield - lack of recruitment mean certain players playing lots of games.

Summer recruitment we need more depth all over the pitch and robust players who can play games and also a striker (2 I would say minimum if Doidge stays) and central midfielder (2 minimum) who adds goals.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/christian-doidge/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/255353/wettbewerb/SC1/saison/2021
Lots of games with 7 or 8 minutes . His total (in the league) is 712mins so you could argue he's played under 8 games and 2 goals suddenly seems respectable!

[A Hi-Bee]

Yep, I'm the first one that mentioned Slivka right enough. Oh wait, that was someone else having a go at me. Like you've just done, further derailing the thread.

Bore off pal.
:greengrin:faf:

[CapitalGreen]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/christian-doidge/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/255353/wettbewerb/SC1/saison/2021
Lots of games with 7 or 8 minutes . His total (in the league) is 712mins so you could argue he's played under 8 games and 2 goals suddenly seems respectable!

Sure if you think 1 goal every 6 hours of football is respectable 👍

[Keith_M]

Sure if you think 1 goal every 6 hours of football is respectable 👍



Actually, one goal every four games doesn't sound quite as bad as my earlier comment, TBF.


We have no choice now but to give the guy an extended spell actually starting games, so I suppose we'll see what he can do.

[Eyrie]

Sure if you think 1 goal every 6 hours of football is respectable 👍

A goal every two games would be every three hours, whilst a goal every three games would be every four and a half hours.

So a goal every four games isn't as bad as it sounds, providing the rest of the team are chipping in.

[Callum_62]

Sure if you think 1 goal every 6 hours of football is respectable [emoji106]1 in 4 for a player who's been bitsy through injury this year actually isn't that bad

Funnily enough about the same record as van veen at well



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