Longbangers interview with Shaun Maloney.

[Brightside]

The boys have done it again. Get your listeners around this fantastic interview with the Gaffer.


https://twitter.com/longbangers/status/1501544340446973956?s=20&t=8cD7ZCjekGMAACEBmdaCAQ

[DaveF]

Good listen, though I'm not sure he got any of the short banger questions 🙂

[matty_f]

Good listen, though I'm not sure he got any of the short banger questions 🙂

We didn’t quite get as long as we’d liked but he was genuinely tickled by those questions!

[OldEast]

Excellent, can't help liking the guy.

Has to be a jammy dodger surely? A bit weighty, good fit in the hand, yea that's the answer.

[Radium]

Rice, in a pie!

Enjoyable listen.


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[G15 Hibs]

I find him very interesting to listen to - of course that could be down to the quality interviewers! But he's a bit different from the usual, clearly tries to keep away from repeating tired cliches and has very particular views on things. I hope he's given the chance to do well. If nothing else the rest of this season will give him a good grounding in crisis management.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Did he share his favourite joke about the elephant?

[haagsehibby]

First time listening to Longbangers and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Shaun came over as a decent honest guy.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

So for every person publicly berating Wright and Nisbet go metaphorically knock on Maloney’s door.

or perhaps claim superior insights over our manager?

[Steve20]

So for every person publicly berating Wright and Nisbet go metaphorically knock on Maloney’s door.

or perhaps claim superior insights over our manager?

So every decision a manager makes is always right because he's the manager and we're supporters?

Maloney comes across very well, but Wright and Nisbet have been woeful this season. Thinking otherwise is just sticking your head in the sand.

Managers make wrong calls all the time.

[Danderhall Hibs]

So every decision a manager makes is always right because he's the manager and we're supporters?

Maloney comes across very well, but Wright and Nisbet have been woeful this season. Thinking otherwise is just sticking your head in the sand.

Managers make wrong calls all the time.

Having listened to the interview Shaun didn’t suggest anything like what you’re spinning this into.

I thought he came across much better than how he’s portrayed in the media and hopefully our fans will give him a bit of a break with the “Cathro” crap that has been repeated.

[Brightside]

So every decision a manager makes is always right because he's the manager and we're supporters?

Maloney comes across very well, but Wright and Nisbet have been woeful this season. Thinking otherwise is just sticking your head in the sand.

Managers make wrong calls all the time.

Nisbet has been far from woeful. You are just fundamentally wrong in that opinion. He's the best striker we have by some distance. I'm not a huge fan of Wright but he's done a decent job on occasion.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

So every decision a manager makes is always right because he's the manager and we're supporters?

Maloney comes across very well, but Wright and Nisbet have been woeful this season. Thinking otherwise is just sticking your head in the sand.

Managers make wrong calls all the time.

so knock on the managers door.

[Alex Trager]

Brilliant episode.

Enjoyable to hear him coming out of his shell.

***** that Newell is the only one close and even then ‘close’ is not any time soon.

All that said, you should have asked the ma/da question

[matty_f]

Brilliant episode.

Enjoyable to hear him coming out of his shell.

***** that Newell is the only one close and even then ‘close’ is not any time soon.

All that said, you should have asked the ma/da question

:faf: we asked off air and he said he’d just wait until everyone was finished.*




* we didn’t ask.

[Lago]

So every decision a manager makes is always right because he's the manager and we're supporters?

Maloney comes across very well, but Wright and Nisbet have been woeful this season. Thinking otherwise is just sticking your head in the sand.

Managers make wrong calls all the time.
So do fans, more than managers in the main.

[bigwheel]

Brilliant interview guys ..comes over a deep thinker and lots of humanity in his views …loves football too. Came over really well. [emoji122][emoji122][emoji122]

[Dalianwanda]

I really think were onto something special with him...I don't know why just a gut feeling.

Im not sure how many people have remodeled the way a football team plays on the forum (and without the majority of players you would like to do that available) but I certainly trust his judgement more than anyones on here. Saying that we all have the same goal in mind. Very honest authentic interview, thanks for holding it :flag:

[Lago]

I really think were onto something special with him...I don't know why just a gut feeling.

Im not sure how many people have remodeled the way a football team plays on the forum (and without the majority of players you would like to do that available) but I certainly trust his judgement more than anyones on here. Saying that we all have the same goal in mind. Very honest authentic interview, thanks for holding it :flag:
:aok:

[Viva_Palmeiras]

I really think were onto something special with him...I don't know why just a gut feeling.

Im not sure how many people have remodeled the way a football team plays on the forum (and without the majority of players you would like to do that available) but I certainly trust his judgement more than anyones on here. Saying that we all have the same goal in mind. Very honest authentic interview, thanks for holding it :flag:

I suppose the question it left me with in this regard:

If as we all hope he successfully blazes a trail, taking a radically different approach, to what extend will it be sustainable ?

[Nicho87]

Brilliant

[Dalianwanda]

I suppose the question it left me with in this regard:

If as we all hope he successfully blazes a trail, taking a radically different approach, to what extend will it be sustainable ?

Sustainable in what way? Money, fitness, player movement, manager movement? To what extent is anything guaranteed to be sustainable. I see it at this moment we have chosen a path and everything is being done to support that.

[JamesHFC]

This year to save me from tears, I’ll give it to Shaun Maloney.

[JimBHibees]

Really enjoyed it. Well done guys.

[CallumHibs07]

I like that he's open about wanting to make us a top 3 team. Nice change from previous where the attitude around the club seemed to be top 6 was enough.

[Alex Trager]

I like that he's open about wanting to make us a top 3 team. Nice change from previous where the attitude around the club seemed to be top 6 was enough.

Kensell said the same in his recent podcast interview. Was hugely refreshing to hear him almost shoot the guys down and say that why should we not have they ambitions?

[flash]

Great to hear the manager relax and have a laugh so well done to the guys asking the questions.
Really want him to succeed and have a feeling he will if we are willing to give him a fair crack.

[Sioux]

I like that he's open about wanting to make us a top 3 team. Nice change from previous where the attitude around the club seemed to be top 6 was enough.

I'm not aware of anyone at the club who has suggested that top 6 is enough. To whom do you attribute those remarks and do you have evidence for this?

[CallumHibs07]

I'm not aware of anyone at the club who has suggested that top 6 is enough. To whom do you attribute those remarks and do you have evidence for this?

Which manager in the last, say, 15 years has openly said the target is top 3? Or previous owners/CEOs? Plenty have talked about top 6 finishes, top 4 at a push. Its clear from this as well as the increased investment recently that our ambitions are higher now than they have been under previous regimes.

[G15 Hibs]

I really think were onto something special with him...I don't know why just a gut feeling.




I know I should be old enough to be cynical and jaded, having seen enough new managers with bright ideas fail and false dawns fade over the years, but listening to this interview with Maloney and the one the Down the Slope guys did with the CEO a couple of weeks back, I'm becoming increasingly optimistic about the future of our club. Just need to get through this rocky patch with the injuries etc, hopefully make as good a fist of the rest of the season as possible and get a proper close season. I feel it's coming together.

[Sioux]

Which manager in the last, say, 15 years has openly said the target is top 3? Or previous owners/CEOs? Plenty have talked about top 6 finishes, top 4 at a push. Its clear from this as well as the increased investment recently that our ambitions are higher now than they have been under previous regimes.

Which manager has said a top 6 finish is the target?

[Brown Hibs]

I actually thought for long periods we were looking closer to what Shaun Maloney is trying to achieve on Saturday. Ironically, he came out for the first time and instead of being content and looking to the positives he demanded more and said we were poor. I must be watching a different game to him each week. Of course we need to be more of a threat going forward I just can't decide whether that's down to the players or the system. Either way, we need to get right behind SM and be patient as the whole thing is in it's infancy and will need time to come to fruition.

[CallumHibs07]

Which manager has said a top 6 finish is the target?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/9317145.stm

Anyway, my main point was about SM publically saying top 3 (and group stage Euro football) are targets which hasn't happened before to my memory. :aok:

[A Hi-Bee]

I like that he's open about wanting to make us a top 3 team. Nice change from previous where the attitude around the club seemed to be top 6 was enough.

He will do for me, calling out the anti Hibs bias is great to hear.
:thumbsup:

[Spike Mandela]

Maloney certainly talks a good job. I hope he acheives his ambitions for Hibernian.

[matty_f]

Maloney certainly talks a good job. I hope he acheives his ambitions for Hibernian.

He certainly comes across as very determined, and very clear on what he wanted to deliver.

[JimBHibees]

He will do for me, calling out the anti Hibs bias is great to hear.
:thumbsup:

Wonder what he was referring to there?

[matty_f]

Wonder what he was referring to there?

My take was that there are journalists who are happy to shine a light on what’s going wrong at Hibs but less likely to give credit where it’s due.

If you’ve heard him being interviewed post-match by Brian McLaughlin, for instance, he can be quite bristly with his responses (listen to the post-derby interview for an example).

[Paulie Walnuts]

My take was that there are journalists who are happy to shine a light on what’s going wrong at Hibs but less likely to give credit where it’s due.

If you’ve heard him being interviewed post-match by Brian McLaughlin, for instance, he can be quite bristly with his responses (listen to the post-derby interview for an example).

Brian McLaughlin is an utter twat and I’d go as far to say he’s downright disrespectful towards Maloney in the way he conducts his interviews. I’d absolutely back Maloney if he decided to refuse to give the guy an interview.

Alternatively, I’d back him even more if he came out and called McLaughlin a bellend live on air.

[matty_f]

Brian McLaughlin is an utter twat and I’d go as far to say he’s downright disrespectful towards Maloney in the way he conducts his interviews. I’d absolutely back Maloney if he decided to refuse to give the guy an interview.

Alternatively, I’d back him even more if he came out and called McLaughlin a bellend live on air.
:agree:

[Iain G]

Brian McLaughlin is an utter twat and I’d go as far to say he’s downright disrespectful towards Maloney in the way he conducts his interviews. I’d absolutely back Maloney if he decided to refuse to give the guy an interview.

Alternatively, I’d back him even more if he came out and called McLaughlin a bellend live on air.

He tries to be clever and pose leading questions to get a negative response, he did the same with Jack Ross as well, he isn't half as smart as he thinks he is...

[Coco Bryce]

Brian McLaughlin is an utter twat and I’d go as far to say he’s downright disrespectful towards Maloney in the way he conducts his interviews. I’d absolutely back Maloney if he decided to refuse to give the guy an interview.

Alternatively, I’d back him even more if he came out and called McLaughlin a bellend live on air.

Hertz prick.

[JimBHibees]

My take was that there are journalists who are happy to shine a light on what’s going wrong at Hibs but less likely to give credit where it’s due.

If you’ve heard him being interviewed post-match by Brian McLaughlin, for instance, he can be quite bristly with his responses (listen to the post-derby interview for an example).

Yep McLaughlin is horrific compare and contrast with his dribbling interviews with Budge. Can remember his first interview with Maloney and being astonished we were training on xmas day? His interviews with Ross were nippy as also. Can't stand him.

[007]

He tries to be clever and pose leading questions to get a negative response, he did the same with Jack Ross as well, he isn't half as smart as he thinks he is...

Yes, he was always trying to catch Jack Ross out. Never worked though. He also once spent an inordinate amount of time before a derby quizzing David Gray about his experiences of derby games growing up.

[Stevie Reid]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/h/hibernian/9317145.stm

Anyway, my main point was about SM publically saying top 3 (and group stage Euro football) are targets which hasn't happened before to my memory. :aok:

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12303772/hibernian-boss-ross-targets-third-spot

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/jack-ross-keen-for-hibernian-to-secure-third-place-1619795982000

Lennon targeted second in the SPL when we were in the Championship:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1019165/hibs-boss-neil-lennon-targets-second-place-as-he-prepares-side-for-premiership-return/

I’d understand your enthusiasm about a manager targeting third place if we hadn’t just finished there last season.

Anyway, I’ll have a listen to this, sounds like he speaks very well.

[J-C]

Really good listen that, good to hear his views and knows the media bias is there too.

[CallumHibs07]

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12303772/hibernian-boss-ross-targets-third-spot

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/jack-ross-keen-for-hibernian-to-secure-third-place-1619795982000

Lennon targeted second in the SPL when we were in the Championship:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1019165/hibs-boss-neil-lennon-targets-second-place-as-he-prepares-side-for-premiership-return/

I’d understand your enthusiasm about a manager targeting third place if we hadn’t just finished there last season.

Anyway, I’ll have a listen to this, sounds like he speaks very well.

At no point in that article does Lennon target 2nd place tbf. Classic Sun clickbait headlines. He does say top 6 is initial target though.

And Ross only started being open about 3rd place towards the end of the season when we were already strong favourites to do so.

We may have finished 3rd last season but we're currently 13 points off now.

Anyway everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

[Stevie Reid]

At no point in that article does Lennon target 2nd place tbf. Classic Sun clickbait headlines. He does say top 6 is initial target though.

And Ross only started being open about 3rd place towards the end of the season when we were already strong favourites to do so.

We may have finished 3rd last season but we're currently 13 points off now.

Anyway everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Of course everyone's entitled to their opinion - but saying that the club has never targeted the goals that Maloney has stated is not an opinion.

Lennon does initially say that he is aiming at top 6 minimum in that article (hardly unreasonable given we were only just going back up) - but then he says that he wants to be the best of the rest, which at that time was anyone outwith Celtic.

Plus, if we're judging the articles referenced here, to prove your point that the club has never had such lofty ambitions you pulled a BBC article from when, 11 and a half years ago? Calderwood was a clown and I hated him, but he took over Hibs in October when we were one point off the bottom of the league. That article is from late December, and we were ninth, eight points behind 6th place - so in that context targeting 6th was reasonably ambitious. It certainly doesn't prove your point.

I'm aware of how far off third we are - but it doesn't change the fact that targeting the league position that you finished in 10 months earlier can't really be heralded as massively ambitious.

[CallumHibs07]

Of course everyone's entitled to their opinion - but saying that the club has never targeted the goals that Maloney has stated is not an opinion.

Lennon does initially say that he is aiming at top 6 minimum in that article (hardly unreasonable given we were only just going back up) - but then he says that he wants to be the best of the rest, which at that time was anyone outwith Celtic.

Plus, if we're judging the articles referenced here, to prove your point that the club has never had such lofty ambitions you pulled a BBC article from when, 11 and a half years ago? Calderwood was a clown and I hated him, but he took over Hibs in October when we were one point off the bottom of the league. That article is from late December, and we were ninth, eight points behind 6th place - so in that context targeting 6th was reasonably ambitious. It certainly doesn't prove your point.

I'm aware of how far off third we are - but it doesn't change the fact that targeting the league position that you finished in 10 months earlier can't really be heralded as massively ambitious.

Well it obviously does change it. Last season is gone. We live in the here and now and we are miles off 3rd.

Lennon is probably one who I don't believe would be happy for top 6 tbf. Outside of him and Maloney, who else has been publicly ambitious with targets we are far from achieving?

Though as I said, its not just what people have said are targets. Its the increased spending on the stadium, transfers, dev squad, Ron wanting to double turnover within 5 years etc. I believe that's a clear rise in ambitions from previous years. You're entitled to disagree.

[Nicho87]

Saw our dearest Robbie over the road complaining of an injury crisis now up to eleven players etc

Elevenerife comes to mind

BBC will make sure their injury crisis is well documented I’m sure

[Danderhall Hibs]

Saw our dearest Robbie over the road complaining of an injury crisis now up to eleven players etc

Elevenerife comes to mind

BBC will make sure their injury crisis is well documented I’m sure

I believe the words used on Sportsound last night was an "unprecedented injury toll".

It's like they don't know it's already happened.

[Stevie Reid]

Well it obviously does change it. Last season is gone. We live in the here and now and we are miles off 3rd.

Lennon is probably one who I don't believe would be happy for top 6 tbf. Outside of him and Maloney, who else has been publicly ambitious with targets we are far from achieving?

Though as I said, its not just what people have said are targets. Its the increased spending on the stadium, transfers, dev squad, Ron wanting to double turnover within 5 years etc. I believe that's a clear rise in ambitions from previous years. You're entitled to disagree.

Hearts were miles off third last season.

I completely agree that the infrastructure and player spend is more ambitious, absolutely. I just don't think there's anything revelatory about saying we want to finish third. Plenty other managers have been appointed and talked about playing exciting, attacking football and finishing as high up the league as we can. It all amounts to the same thing, 3rd place - it's nothing new.

Shaun is the latest to say it and I very much hope that he succeeds.

[CallumHibs07]

Hearts were miles off third last season.

I completely agree that the infrastructure and player spend is more ambitious, absolutely. I just don't think there's anything revelatory about saying we want to finish third. Plenty other managers have been appointed and talked about playing exciting, attacking football and finishing as high up the league as we can. It all amounts to the same thing, 3rd place - it's nothing new.

Shaun is the latest to say it and I very much hope that he succeeds.

Ok, but then you said top 6 was an acceptable target when we had just been promoted. So which is it?

And there's a big difference between saying we want to play exciting football and finish as high as we can, and saying we want 3rd. I don't remember all those plenty managers saying the latter.

[Stevie Reid]

Ok, but then you said top 6 was an acceptable target when we had just been promoted. So which is it?

And there's a big difference between saying we want to play exciting football and finish as high as we can, and saying we want 3rd. I don't remember all those plenty managers saying the latter.

I'm sure this thread highjack is getting very boring now, so feel free to bash on after this. Saying you want to finish as high up the league as possible and 3rd is the same thing in Scotland.

I'm not sure I get your first question.

[CallumHibs07]

I'm sure this thread highjack is getting very boring now, so feel free to bash on after this. Saying you want to finish as high up the league as possible and 3rd is the same thing in Scotland.

I'm not sure I get your first question.

Not really, you're just making an assumption.

As for the first question, you said its not overly ambitious to target 3rd despite being miles off it currently, but you were happy with a top 6 target when we were just promoted (as Hearts were last season). So not sure what the difference is.

[matty_f]

PLZ Soccer have quoted Shaun’s comments about people wanting him to fail and described them as a “shock rant” as if they want to prove him right.

[B.H.F.C]

PLZ Soccer have quoted Shaun’s comments about people wanting him to fail and described them as a “shock rant” as if they want to prove him right.

Noticed either The Sun or The Record, can’t remember which, referring to him as paranoid as well.

[Stevie Reid]

Not really, you're just making an assumption.

As for the first question, you said its not overly ambitious to target 3rd despite being miles off it currently, but you were happy with a top 6 target when we were just promoted (as Hearts were last season). So not sure what the difference is.

Only as much as you're making assumptions also, the implication is pretty obvious to me - anyway, bash on man. I care a lot less than the number of posts I've replied to would imply.

I still don't understand your question I'm afraid. We were in a different league when Lennon said top 6 minimum, and wanted 2nd - we are far from 3rd in terms of points right now, but we are still in 4th. So we're essentially targeting finishing one place higher than where we are now - which is also the position we finished in last season It's not wildly ambitious.

What have Hearts got to do with that?

[CallumHibs07]

Only as much as you're making assumptions also, the implication is pretty obvious to me - anyway, bash on man. I care a lot less than the number of posts I've replied to would imply.

I still don't understand your question I'm afraid. We were in a different league when Lennon said top 6 minimum, and wanted 2nd - we are far from 3rd in terms of points right now, but we are still in 4th. So we're essentially targeting finishing one place higher than where we are now - which is also the position we finished in last season It's not wildly ambitious.

What have Hearts got to do with that?

Erm, you were the one that brought up Hearts. You said that just because we're miles off 3rd it doesn't mean its overly ambitious to target it, pointing Hearts as an example, promoted last season and now in 3rd. But when we got promoted under Lennon, you thought top 6 was an acceptable target. So where was the ambition then?

[Stevie Reid]

Erm, you were the one that brought up Hearts. You said that just because we're miles off 3rd it doesn't mean its overly ambitious to target it, pointing Hearts as an example, promoted last season and now in 3rd. But when we got promoted under Lennon, you thought top 6 was an acceptable target. So where was the ambition then?

You're really quite confused, man. I used Hearts as an example of a team finishing third when the previous season they were nowhere near it - and compared that to claims that us aiming to finish in 3rd - a place above where we are now, and in the position we finished in last season - was exceedingly ambitious.

I also explained why I thought Lennon's aiming for top six minimum was a reasonable first target when we had been in the Championship. They were separate points. And Lennon said he wanted 2nd on top of top six anyway.

[CallumHibs07]

You're really quite confused, man. I used Hearts as an example of a team finishing third when the previous season they were nowhere near it - and compared that to claims that us aiming to finish in 3rd - a place above where we are now, and in the position we finished in last season - was exceedingly ambitious.

I also explained why I thought Lennon's aiming for top six minimum was a reasonable first target when we had been in the Championship. They were separate points. And Lennon said he wanted 2nd on top of top six anyway.

They may be separate points but they certainly contradict each other if you assume ours and Hearts aims are fairly similar.

Lennon never said he wanted 2nd. You've wildly assumed "best of the rest" means finishing 2nd for some reason. Regardless, I've already said I think Lennon was ambitious. I'm still waiting to hear all these ambitions from the other previous managers which is supposedly no different to what Maloney is saying. Please post evidence of this.

[Stevie Reid]

They may be separate points but they certainly contradict each other if you assume ours and Hearts aims are fairly similar.

Lennon never said he wanted 2nd. You've wildly assumed "best of the rest" means finishing 2nd for some reason. Regardless, I've already said I think Lennon was ambitious. I'm still waiting to hear all these ambitions from the other previous managers which is supposedly no different to what Maloney is saying. Please post evidence of this.

My points were not in any way contradictory.

'Wildly' assumed? Celtic were winning the league in 2018, no one else. What else would best of the rest mean? But this is all moot given you agree re: Lennon's ambitions.

I think you're getting confused again. I posted links earlier regarding managers targeting 3rd - you produced no evidence of managers claiming that top 6 was the sole ambition, other than the Calderwood one, which in context, was reasonably ambitious.

Hibs managers have expressed ambition regarding exciting football, finishing 3rd and qualifying for Europe many times in the past. Anyway, I've now said all I have to say on this - in as many ways as I possibly can. I've actually bored myself - and likely many other posters, unfortunately. I don't think Shaun's comments are anything out of the ordinary, and talk is cheap in football anyway. I just hope he can deliver on his ambitions.

[CallumHibs07]

My points were not in any way contradictory.

'Wildly' assumed? Celtic were winning the league in 2018, no one else. What else would best of the rest mean? But this is all moot given you agree re: Lennon's ambitions.

I think you're getting confused again. I posted links earlier regarding managers targeting 3rd - you produced no evidence of managers claiming that top 6 was the sole ambition, other than the Calderwood one, which in context, was reasonably ambitious.

Hibs managers have expressed ambition regarding exciting football, finishing 3rd and qualifying for Europe many times in the past. Anyway, I've now said all I have to say on this - in as many ways as I possibly can. I've actually bored myself - and likely many other posters, unfortunately. I don't think Shaun's comments are anything out of the ordinary, and talk is cheap in football anyway. I just hope he can deliver on his ambitions.

No need to re-iterate how bored you are - nobody's forcing you to reply.

And yeah, wildly assumed. Best of the rest clearly meant after Celtic and Rangers - who he said he expected to be stronger.

Still waiting on the evidence of all the other managers who have publicly targeted 3rd and group stage European football. :aok:

[CL0762]

PLZ Soccer have quoted Shaun’s comments about people wanting him to fail and described them as a “shock rant” as if they want to prove him right.

********s, Matty. Anyone who listens to your pod with him will know exactly what he said when he said that and in the context it was said. A shock rant 😂😂😂

[Vault Boy]

PLZ Soccer have quoted Shaun’s comments about people wanting him to fail and described them as a “shock rant” as if they want to prove him right.

"Hibs manager Shaun Maloney opens up on 'shocking' desire to own a dog with human head"

[matty_f]

"Hibs manager Shaun Maloney opens up on 'shocking' desire to own a dog with human head"

:faf:

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