Is it s scam?

[Killiehibbie]

I've recently been asked for copies of driving licence and passport when applying for a couple of jobs. Told them I don't have a passport and they never contacted me again. Searched about and one of the companies only address is a lawyer's office.
Is it an attempt at id fraud or am I just too suspicious?

[Mike Berry]

I've recently been asked for copies of driving licence and passport when applying for a couple of jobs. Told them I don't have a passport and they never contacted me again. Searched about and one of the companies only address is a lawyer's office.
Is it an attempt at id fraud or am I just too suspicious?Sounds very dodgy to me. Even if the job requires a valid driving licence and a current passport, you'd only ask to see them if you offered someone the job. You're right to be suspicious, I think.

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[Scouse Hibee]

I've recently been asked for copies of driving licence and passport when applying for a couple of jobs. Told them I don't have a passport and they never contacted me again. Searched about and one of the companies only address is a lawyer's office.
Is it an attempt at id fraud or am I just too suspicious?

Checking your status and right to work in the U.K. but normally at the job offer stage.

[Moulin Yarns]

Depending on the size of the company I would say it contravenes equality legislation.

[Stairway 2 7]

We employ thousands and we always ask for a scan of a passport, if they haven't got one we can still employ but takes longer

[Moulin Yarns]

We employ thousands and we always ask for a scan of a passport, if they haven't got one we can still employ but takes longer

But surely not before you are given an offer of employment.

[weecounty hibby]

This would be asked for as a background check if we offered a role to someone but we wouldn't ask for it at application stage.

[Stairway 2 7]

But surely not before you are given an offer of employment.

Everyone we interview, think it's to get the right of employment out the way

[c31]

We require this and have done for years.

The legal bit -'To help prove the person attending the interview is the rightful holder of the claimed identity, which protect people's identity and reduce identity fraud.'

No proof, no interview and no offer of employment.

[Moulin Yarns]

Everyone we interview, think it's to get the right of employment out the way

Or so you can discount those who your business are not keen to employ, otherwise known as 'minorities'? 😉

That is a joke by the way, but it's exactly why all applications for local government have age and gender hidden at the interview selection stage. Only the qualifications experience and other relevant information are taken into consideration.

As I understand it, the OP is being asked for it as part of application not once they have been offered an interview.

[Stairway 2 7]

Or so you can discount those who your business are not keen to employ, otherwise known as 'minorities'? 😉

That is a joke by the way, but it's exactly why all applications for local government have age and gender hidden at the interview selection stage. Only the qualifications experience and other relevant information are taken into consideration.

As I understand it, the OP is being asked for it as part of application not once they have been offered an interview.

Nah I work for the uni and in the words of another thread they are unbelievably woke which is good, hr is tight. But everyone does have to have the right to work in the uk

[neil7908]

We used to check at interview stage as no point having someone in if it turns out they can't actually take the job due to visa issues.

Think we might have changed recently though as its all online

[Hibrandenburg]

We used to check at interview stage as no point having someone in if it turns out they can't actually take the job due to visa issues.

Think we might have changed recently though as its all online

I used to do recruitment for my last employer and we used to have mass recruitment days where we'd whittle down around 200 applicants to between 10 and 20. We had a check-in process and the first hurdle candidates faced was a documentation check including passports, anyone without a valid passport fell at the first hurdle.

[Killiehibbie]

I just thought it was strange that they asked at first contact and one of them didn't even have business premises. No follow up after initial contact.

[G15 Hibs]

We require this and have done for years.

The legal bit -'To help prove the person attending the interview is the rightful holder of the claimed identity, which protect people's identity and reduce identity fraud.'

No proof, no interview and no offer of employment.

So if an applicant doesn't have a passport or a driving licence they have no chance of being employed by your organisation? There must be a lot of people, mostly from poorer backgrounds, who won't have either but are entitled to work in the UK. This seems like another barrier in the way of folk who are trying to get out of poverty and into employment. Doesn't sit right eh?

[overdrive]

I just thought it was strange that they asked at first contact and one of them didn't even have business premises. No follow up after initial contact.

I would be suspicious too.

My work insists all interviewees provide proof of work in the UK and that generally means a passport. For the person that mentioned it might contravene age discrimination, etc. it is generally someone else that takes the ID and fills in the paperwork. So, if I'm chairing a panel, I'd go down to collect the candidate and ask that they hand the passport to the receptionist who will fill out the right to work paperwork meaning nobody involved in the selection sees it. I think it is all online now, though so I don't know what happens now as I've not recruited lately.

We also insist on it even for an internal candidate. So, even though I am currently employed and have previously provided evidence, if I interview for another job in my organisation, I also have to provide proof of right to work. I almost got caught out with this once as my passport had expired and the new one only arrived a couple of days before an internal interview.

[Santa Cruz]

So if an applicant doesn't have a passport or a driving licence they have no chance of being employed by your organisation? There must be a lot of people, mostly from poorer backgrounds, who won't have either but are entitled to work in the UK. This seems like another barrier in the way of folk who are trying to get out of poverty and into employment. Doesn't sit right eh?

You're right. Cheapest photo I.D is a provisional drivers license. I've been asked to submit photo I.D at both application and interview stage's. Depends on the employer's own recruitment process.

[WhileTheChief..]

Depending on the size of the company I would say it contravenes equality legislation.

Why? Who is being treated less equal than anyone else here?

[G15 Hibs]

Why? Who is being treated less equal than anyone else here?

People who don't have, and can't afford, a passport or a driving licence. The poorest people in society being kept out the jobs market, essentially. However, I don't know if that contravenes any equality legislation. I doubt it does. Maybe it should.

[Stairway 2 7]

People who don't have, and can't afford, a passport or a driving licence. The poorest people in society being kept out the jobs market, essentially. However, I don't know if that contravenes any equality legislation. I doubt it does. Maybe it should.

They can still get the data needed it just takes longer without passport, need a few documents of proof. Same as joining a new doctor surgery.

[Moulin Yarns]

Why? Who is being treated less equal than anyone else here?

Unfortunately, if an employer know that the applicant is, for example, a woman who is of child bearing age Or an ethnic minority disabled, aged over 60. They might not get an interview.

[G15 Hibs]

They can still get the data needed it just takes longer without passport, need a few documents of proof. Same as joining a new doctor surgery.

Thanks. The way I'd read previous posts it seemed like it had to be a driving licence or passport.

I suppose the problem would be if the ID is required as part of the application process, as other posters have indicated is the case at some employers, which could be time limited.

[Stairway 2 7]

Thanks. The way I'd read previous posts it seemed like it had to be a driving licence or passport.

I suppose the problem would be if the ID is required as part of the application process, as other posters have indicated is the case at some employers, which could be time limited.

I know the brew used to pay for photo id for people, but they way tory cuts are that might not be the case now

[McD]

Place I worked previously asked for ID (suggestion is usually drivers license or passport) at interview stage, usually the first thing that’s asked for at the interview tbh

[The 90+2]

Because of covid there are numerous restrictions in meeting in person.

When we have interviewed people in my work (University) we always take a copy of passport stamped with the date. I've not conducted an interview during covid remotely (role change) but it was always a legal requirement for me to actually see the passport and not a photo before I would sign the stamp. Saying that, it could have changed.

[Scouse Hibee]

In a previous job everyone on the payroll had to provide photographic ID twice a year as a result of a scam that saw several fictitious employees being paid a salary every month by the person in charge of payroll. Was discovered in an audit and ID check put in place to prevent it happening again.

[Hibrandenburg]

Just watching "For love or Money" on the BBC and can't get my head around how someone can send their life savings to someone they met on a dating site and have never met in person. I know I should feel angry about these scammers abusing lonely elderly women, but I just can't help feeling mild rage at the stupidity of the victims.

[LewysGot2]

Just watching "For love or Money" on the BBC and can't get my head around how someone can send their life savings to someone they met on a dating site and have never met in person. I know I should feel angry about these scammers abusing lonely elderly women, but I just can't help feeling mild rage at the stupidity of the victims.

Not just lonely older women. Men thinking someone half their age that they’d never met other than online is interested in them. This kind of scam is being looked into re Andrew Tate. Allegedly keeping women in his compound to scam men using dodgy sites he runs…

[Hibrandenburg]

Not just lonely older women. Men thinking someone half their age that they’d never met other than online is interested in them. This kind of scam is being looked into re Andrew Tate. Allegedly keeping women in his compound to scam men using dodgy sites he runs…

You're 100% correct. The programme I was watching involved a woman though.