Season tickets 2022-23

[G15 Hibs]

Being kept at the same prices

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/season-ticket-prices-frozen-for-2022-23

[Green forever]

Happy with that.

[JohnM1875]

Being kept at the same prices

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/season-ticket-prices-frozen-for-2022-23

Nice one. Had a feeling they'd be raised. Obviously glad they haven't been.

[SHODAN]

Good decision.

[Mikey_1875]

Great news. Assuming that walk up prices are staying the same as well then it makes the ST really good value in comparison and might tempt a few of the regular walk ups.

[Unseen work]

Quite a few moaning on Twitter about it and said the prices should be cut further….

Personally I’m happy with the prices and think it’s good value.

As long as it’s positive on the park then the fans will come back.

[Jay]

Nice one. Had a feeling they'd be raised. Obviously glad they haven't been.


Same. I was convinced they were going up and I'd decided I wasn't renewing. I'm over the moon they are frozen.

[Billy Whizz]

Not that it is something I do, but have they said anything about fans continuing to watch at home next season?

[Gatecrasher]

Not that it is something I do, but have they said anything about fans continuing to watch at home next season?

That's what I'm waiting on, if we can watch at home as well as attend I'll renew. Not sure I will otherwise.

[greenlad]

Not that it is something I do, but have they said anything about fans continuing to watch at home next season?

It would be down to whether 1) SFA enforce the broadcast blackout and 2) As sole live broadcast rights holder for the UK and Ireland Sky give authority for season ticket holders to watch on streams along with PPV access for non season ticket holders.

With things opening up as they are, I don't expect either to happen and we'll be back to the way it was pre-Covid.

[h185forever]

That’s good news !….

I turn 65 before next season starts so I think I qualify for a senior ticket when I renew.

Does anyone know if I have to go to the ticket office to arrange this or will the online system cope with it ?

[JGS56]

That’s good news !….

I turn 65 before next season starts so I think I qualify for a senior ticket when I renew.

Does anyone know if I have to go to the ticket office to arrange this or will the online system cope with it ?

If you are 65 before the 1st August the system should automatically offer you the senior ticket. This is what happened to me last year

[Bishop Hibee]

Well done Hibs. I, like many others, am having to tighten my fiscal belt so this news is welcome.

[DaveF]

Other incentives mentioned in regard to renewing early too.

Glad there is no increase, so will renew regardless of the TV option.

[Billy Whizz]

That's what I'm waiting on, if we can watch at home as well as attend I'll renew. Not sure I will otherwise.

Think the rumour I heard was about 25% of season tickets are not showing up for home games. Don’t know if this is due to being able to watch at home, or they just feel uncomfortable after Covid restrictions

That’s a big amount to potentially lose, if Hibs can’t offer it

[h185forever]

If you are 65 before the 1st August the system should automatically offer you the senior ticket. This is what happened to me last year

Thanks

[hibbyfraelibby]

If you are 65 before the 1st August the system should automatically offer you the senior ticket. This is what happened to me last year
But will it be 65 or up to 66 heading and then on toward 67 to keep it in l8ne with the pension age?

[DaveF]

Think the rumour I heard was about 25% of season tickets are not showing up for home games. Don’t know if this is due to being able to watch at home, or they just feel uncomfortable after Covid restrictions

That’s a big amount to potentially lose, if Hibs can’t offer it

Totally understand that there are some who don't feel ready or able to come back to ER due to covid but 1 in 4 not attending with a large number of that 25% simply choosing telly over attendance isn't great. Are some really happier watching at home rather than in person?

[hibbysam]

£22 per game is unreal value to be fair, and that’s for the most expensive ‘normal’ seats. Most likely including 6 category A games. The fact you’ll also be able to pay it up monthly and it’s a no brainer for me.

I’d expect there to be creative thinking around walk up prices purely as the jump at the moment is too big (over a tenner more expensive for a category A game than the average season ticket price) but beyond that can’t see anything to moan about.

Next issue is solving how to get people into stadium and the only way of doing that for me is removing the ability to watch at home.

[Billy Whizz]

Totally understand that there are some who don't feel ready or able to come back to ER due to covid but 1 in 4 not attending with a large number of that 25% simply choosing telly over attendance isn't great. Are some really happier watching at home rather than in person?

Dave, maybe a few on here are in that position, be interested in their views
I have around 6/7 around me, renewed this season, but I haven’t seen them once

[vuefrom1875]

That’s good news !….

I turn 65 before next season starts so I think I qualify for a senior ticket when I renew.

Does anyone know if I have to go to the ticket office to arrange this or will the online system cope with it ?

You could either, I personally went to the ticket office but online is fine.

[Jay]

Totally understand that there are some who don't feel ready or able to come back to ER due to covid but 1 in 4 not attending with a large number of that 25% simply choosing telly over attendance isn't great. Are some really happier watching at home rather than in person?


I've missed a lot of games this season due to ill health and I have to say its got very comfy watching from home . If I hadn't gone to Arbroath on sun and got the buzz again I'd seriously consider watching from home as a good option. But nothing beats being there in reality

[Keith_M]

Just compared the prices and it would only be £30 more for me and my two nephews to move from the FF Lower to the Silver sections of the East or West (£665 v £635)

I think I'll be doing that, as I prefer the view from the side of the pitch.

I honestly hadn't realised there was so little difference in the price... need to start paying more attention. :greengrin

[Eyrie]

Worth noting that there won't be a price increase after the Early Bird deadline.

I usually wait until then to renew, so I now have no financial incentive to do so until July. It'll be interesting to see what the alternative incentives are.

[hibee]

My son turns 18 soon but is still at school, would I be expected to pay for an adult ticket for him?

I see there’s a student ticket but it only mentions college or university.

[Sir David Gray]

My son turns 18 soon but is still at school, would I be expected to pay for an adult ticket for him?

I see there’s a student ticket but it only mentions college or university.

If he's 18 before 1st August and not in college or university then he'll be classed as an adult.

[hibbysam]

My son turns 18 soon but is still at school, would I be expected to pay for an adult ticket for him?

I see there’s a student ticket but it only mentions college or university.

Surely not still at school after the summer when he’s 18 or on the verge of turning 18?

[hibee]

If he's 18 before 1st August and not in college or university then he'll be classed as an adult.

Yes that’s what I thought but was hoping not so looks like it will jump from £140 to £385.

I wonder how many families drift away from the game at this age, certainly in my thoughts just now!

[hibee]

Surely not still at school after the summer when he’s 18 or on the verge of turning 18?

Yes, he will have left by then but no guarantees he’ll have a job and have nearly £400 spare without coming to me for it, happens to everyone at that age though.

[WhileTheChief..]

Totally understand that there are some who don't feel ready or able to come back to ER due to covid but 1 in 4 not attending with a large number of that 25% simply choosing telly over attendance isn't great. Are some really happier watching at home rather than in person?


Dave, maybe a few on here are in that position, be interested in their views
I have around 6/7 around me, renewed this season, but I haven’t seen them once

I stayed at home the last couple of games.

Not covid related, just fed up watching crap. Might renew next season but doubt I'll use it much. Hope the TV option is there.

[Smartie]

Totally understand that there are some who don't feel ready or able to come back to ER due to covid but 1 in 4 not attending with a large number of that 25% simply choosing telly over attendance isn't great. Are some really happier watching at home rather than in person?

I found it pretty handy to be able to watch from home tbh and ended up doing that a few times over the course of the first half of the season. I don't even stay that far from ER, but it was quite convenient to be able to do stuff with my daughter earlier in the day and just have to get back home mid afternoon and turn the laptop on. I could be doing stuff around the house with the game on in the background.

Since Christmas I've been to almost every game, and I've watched all the ones I've not been at on TV. I had a hunch that Hibs might have been reading incorrectly into the empty seats thing, I also took on board some of the criticisms of folk who could go but chose not to and thought that toddling up to the games was probably the least that I could do to support the team.

I'd mumped and moaned for a while about football catering too much for the armchair punter over the fan in attendance - and found myself all too easily just drifting towards being an armchair fan myself. My interest in football in general has waned drastically in recent years but I still have a decent interest in Scottish football and a fanatical interest in Hibs.

At this stage it's hard to see me not renewing for next year but that might change based on various factors - daughter's interests might take over, finances might go from bad to worse this year - but from where I'm looking Hibs have got this about right. The walk-up prices are disgraceful, and I reckon they're mainly an attempt to cash in on our bigger away supports, which I hate. Our focus should always be on getting as many of our own fans into the ground.

[18Craig75]

Hope they remove the TV option. Too easy for people to decide on not going in bad weather or when we’re maybe not on a great run of form. The team needs our support, so need more bums on seats.

No doubt there’s people with genuine Covid concerned, immunocompromised etc, would be good if the club could facilitate something for them.

[Pagan Hibernia]

I’ll be buying a season ticket for the very first time. Glad the prices haven’t gone up!

[HibsIntl]

In an age of economic uncertainty and cost of living crisis that’s pushed many to the brink this is a welcome relief.
Thank god the bean counters look at how the prices will impact fans as opposed to ‘let’s just charge an extra £20 and bring in XYZ what is £20 etc’

[Bridge hibs]

Hope they remove the TV option. Too easy for people to decide on not going in bad weather or when we’re maybe not on a great run of form. The team needs our support, so need more bums on seats.

No doubt there’s people with genuine Covid concerned, immunocompromised etc, would be good if the club could facilitate something for them.I hope they keep it, the past couple of seasons I have hardly been to a game, moreso this season for many reasons. However if I have been working then sometimes I can get the second half on tv or just miss some of the first half. Thats a small crumb of comfort for me, also my Wife because she wont go to a game without me anyway. If the tv goes then we will most likely not renew again

[The Modfather]

£22 per game is unreal value to be fair, and that’s for the most expensive ‘normal’ seats. Most likely including 6 category A games. The fact you’ll also be able to pay it up monthly and it’s a no brainer for me.

I’d expect there to be creative thinking around walk up prices purely as the jump at the moment is too big (over a tenner more expensive for a category A game than the average season ticket price) but beyond that can’t see anything to moan about.

Next issue is solving how to get people into stadium and the only way of doing that for me is removing the ability to watch at home.

I think it’s going a bit overboard to say £22 is unreal value. That’s still overpriced for Scottish football IMO. Decent value in relation to the likes of the scandalous £31 for the derby, but £22 for Scottish football isn’t value for money IMO.

[GreenCastle]

Would have been perfect if they made the FF lower into safe standing but it’s been made clear this isn’t happening for next season. I really hope they do it for the season after. Easter Road needs improved.

Regarding the TV part - I understand both sides of it but reality is Hibs need the money and ideally fans into the stadium.

Maybe a compromise would be a bolt on for Hibs TV and the games live or discounted match day deal it you don’t plan to attend in person every week?

[Pagan Hibernia]

I think it’s going a bit overboard to say £22 is unreal value. That’s still overpriced for Scottish football IMO. Decent value in relation to the likes of the scandalous £31 for the derby, but £22 for Scottish football isn’t value for money IMO.

I think £20 a game for Scottish football (outwith the old firm, they get to watch far more expensive players every week) is about what it’s worth. The bronze option season ticket works about about 19 quid a game, which to be honest I’m delighted with

[The Modfather]

I think £20 a game for Scottish football (outwith the old firm, they get to watch far more expensive players every week) is about what it’s worth. The bronze option season ticket works about about 19 quid a game, which to be honest I’m delighted with

It’s chicken and egg, reduce prices and reduce quality. Sadly increasing prices doesn’t seem to guarantee an increase in quality. However, for what’s on offer I think £15 and £10 for kids is closer to value for money. We’ve been over paying for decades though so it’s unrealistic to think we’ll ever drop down that far.

[matty_f]

Totally understand that there are some who don't feel ready or able to come back to ER due to covid but 1 in 4 not attending with a large number of that 25% simply choosing telly over attendance isn't great. Are some really happier watching at home rather than in person?

My dad has been reluctant to come back despite having the season ticket. I think he’ll be back for next season though

[Hulk1875]

I think £20 a game for Scottish football (outwith the old firm, they get to watch far more expensive players every week) is about what it’s worth. The bronze option season ticket works about about 19 quid a game, which to be honest I’m delighted with

£14 for Edinburgh city so we’ll worth it

[hibbysam]

I think it’s going a bit overboard to say £22 is unreal value. That’s still overpriced for Scottish football IMO. Decent value in relation to the likes of the scandalous £31 for the derby, but £22 for Scottish football isn’t value for money IMO.

Not overboard one bit. £22 is outstanding value. For that I get 6 category A games. 2 against Aberdeen, and then 10/11 against the rest. I’d pay £50 to watch Hibs play Hearts. I missed the game 2 weeks ago due to being stuck in hospital and it genuinely felt like an arm had been chopped off.

[Scouse Hibee]

Haven’t managed to use mine once yet!

[HibsIntl]

I live next door to the Emirates (albeit it’s the £££ in the world)
£127 bottom tier, £57 top tier for a team that always disappoints. Could be worse………

[MWHIBBIES]

I stayed at home the last couple of games.

Not covid related, just fed up watching crap. Might renew next season but doubt I'll use it much. Hope the TV option is there.

Do you only support Hibs when they are winning?

[Pagan Hibernia]

I live next door to the Emirates (albeit it’s the £££ in the world)
£127 bottom tier, £57 top tier for a team that always disappoints. Could be worse………

incredible prices

[wandering_hibee]

Couldn't manage many games in the first half of the season due to working in Ireland so the TV option was great. Managed to get to Livingston and St Mirren games recently and ended up with Covid a few days after the latter game ( it was the only place that I had been to so that is the only place that I could have caught it) Still testing positive so TV will definitely be of benefit this weekend.

Not sure about whether it is good value as it is so hard to compare, for me it is because supporting Hibs has been part of my life for so long now, well over 50 years.

I reckon keeping the prices flat is the best that could have been hoped for but I suspect the TV option will go so that bums on seats can be maximised. Looking forward to probably more pre match and half time entertainment to attract us there and to part with more money.

[Allant1981]

I stayed at home the last couple of games.

Not covid related, just fed up watching crap. Might renew next season but doubt I'll use it much. Hope the TV option is there.

So cant be bothered actually getting behind the guys and supporting them when they need it, great supporter, hope the tv option is taken away for reason like this

[JohnMcM]

Totally understand that there are some who don't feel ready or able to come back to ER due to covid but 1 in 4 not attending with a large number of that 25% simply choosing telly over attendance isn't great. Are some really happier watching at home rather than in person?

Sadly, the facts of the matter will include people like myself who are backed into almost permanent shielding. As much as I want to attend in person it would be foolish of me to do so for the foreseeable future. I’ll still remain a ST holder if the telly option is still available.

[B.H.F.C]

So cant be bothered actually getting behind the guys and supporting them when they need it, great supporter, hope the tv option is taken away for reason like this

Agree the TV option needs taken away for this reason.

But even as someone who still goes regardless, I don’t really blame anyone who hasn’t been. It’s not just about supporting the team, there has to be an element of enjoyment in doing so and that’s been lacking this year it’s fair to say.

[Allant1981]

Agree the TV option needs taken away for this reason.

But even as someone who still goes regardless, I don’t really blame anyone who hasn’t been. It’s not just about supporting the team, there has to be an element of enjoyment in doing so and that’s been lacking this year it’s fair to say.

Each to their own i suppose, ill go each week regardless of how they are playing, i was brought up supporting them regardless of how we are playing, if we were to stop going because they arent playing well or it wasnt exciting we would have had no fans for years!

[danhibees1875]

So cant be bothered actually getting behind the guys and supporting them when they need it, great supporter, hope the tv option is taken away for reason like this

There's been the odd game where I've been in the same boat as whilethechief. The recent StM game was one of them, the weather was rank and if I stayed at home I could have a couple drinks and watch all the rugby too.

Generally though when I miss games it's because I'm away somewhere - I may be able to watch at least parts of, if not all of, the game whilst away though so it's been handy to be able to flick on and watch 10-15 mins here and there whilst the game is on.

We've had 13 home games this season and I've made it to 4 of them. I should make the next 2, but that'll be me until the split - possibly for the rest of the season.

£420 for 6/7 games isn't the best value - so I hope they maintain the ability to watch it on TV into next season.

[vuefrom1875]

I’ll be buying a season ticket for the very first time. Glad the prices haven’t gone up!

👌

[Allant1981]

There's been the odd game where I've been in the same boat as whilethechief. The recent StM game was one of them, the weather was rank and if I stayed at home I could have a couple drinks and watch all the rugby too.

Generally though when I miss games it's because I'm away somewhere - I may be able to watch at least parts of, if not all of, the game whilst away though so it's been handy to be able to flick on and watch 10-15 mins here and there whilst the game is on.

We've had 13 home games this season and I've made it to 4 of them. I should make the next 2, but that'll be me until the split - possibly for the rest of the season.

£420 for 6/7 games isn't the best value - so I hope they maintain the ability to watch it on TV into next season.

Not great value on the face of it but it was your choice not to go so its you thats making it like that, as i say each to their own but to say you arent going because its been crap then ill stand by what i said earlier and hope that the tv option isnt there next season, may sound harsh for people who genuinely cant make a game but we need fans back in the ground

[A Hi-Bee]

So cant be bothered actually getting behind the guys and supporting them when they need it, great supporter, hope the tv option is taken away for reason like this

I buy a season ticket even though I know that with the best will in the world I may only get to one or two games at Easter Rd, I am fortunate enough to be able to buy one and just support my club that way, I still want to be able to see the game on Hibs T.V.
We cannot all be uber supporters so why would anyone wish to take something like being able to watch a game away when otherwise it would be impossible to see (unless using a dodgy stream), you dont happen to work at Saughton or Polmont do you?
I will still buy a season, but would prefer the choice of being able to watch if possible.

[B.H.F.C]

Each to their own i suppose, ill go each week regardless of how they are playing, i was brought up supporting them regardless of how we are playing, if we were to stop going because they arent playing well or it wasnt exciting we would have had no fans for years!

There’s been plenty times that it hasn’t been good or exciting. We’ve never had no fans watching though, just less. It’s not really a new thing but couple not being very good with the other factors in play this year, it’s not really a surprise that folk, who have also got out of the habit, are choosing to do other things with their time. Even as someone who has a season ticket, home and away, I get that it’s not as important to other folk as it is to me. Club need to give people less reason not to turn up next year (be it removing the TV access, getting a better team on the pitch or whatever).

[hibee-boys]

I probably miss a good few games each year due to work/family commitments but paying for the season ticket ensures I’m able to sit with friends when I do go and is much a donation as anything else as I don’t, and never have, paid into HSL.

I’ve been able to watch the games at home when I’ve not been able to make it but I agree that the TV option should be removed from next season. There’s been 1 or 2 games that I could have probably made with some planning but the easy option was tuning in from home, then I moan about the low numbers when I do go!🤷🏼😂

[Coco Bryce]

Me and the kids season tickets have also mostly just been a donation this season.

I've been picking and choosing my games and the kids now they are getting older just don't seem that interested in Hibs anymore sadly.

[Billy Whizz]

Me and the kids season tickets have also mostly just been a donation this season.

I've been picking and choosing my games and the kids now they are getting older just don't seem that interested in Hibs anymore sadly.

I take 2 lads aged 14, they’ve only been to about 4 games this season
They train through the week and play on a Sunday for their boys club. If they don’t go to training they don’t play
Been taking them since they were 5, and I think sadly this will be their last year for a bit

[evy]

It’s chicken and egg, reduce prices and reduce quality. Sadly increasing prices doesn’t seem to guarantee an increase in quality. However, for what’s on offer I think £15 and £10 for kids is closer to value for money. We’ve been over paying for decades though so it’s unrealistic to think we’ll ever drop down that far.

Increased prices aren't just to generate more money to spend though, they're based on increasing costs to host the games. Catering, policing, stewards, lighting etc all go up and don't stay static. An increase in price to the ST holder doesn't mean the same increase to the bottom line for Hibs and a prices freeze this season will definitely mean less profit on the season tickets for Hibs.

[Allant1981]

I buy a season ticket even though I know that with the best will in the world I may only get to one or two games at Easter Rd, I am fortunate enough to be able to buy one and just support my club that way, I still want to be able to see the game on Hibs T.V.
We cannot all be uber supporters so why would anyone wish to take something like being able to watch a game away when otherwise it would be impossible to see (unless using a dodgy stream), you dont happen to work at Saughton or Polmont do you?
I will still buy a season, but would prefer the choice of being able to watch if possible.


Ive clearly stated my reason for wanting the club to do away with the option of watching at home, dont think i need to expand on it any further

[Crunchie]

Do you only support Hibs when they are winning?
IF he does, and that's if, he certainly won't be alone in that regard.

Back to the season tickets and I think it's the correct decision, well done Hibs :aok:

[The Modfather]

Increased prices aren't just to generate more money to spend though, they're based on increasing costs to host the games. Catering, policing, stewards, lighting etc all go up and don't stay static. An increase in price to the ST holder doesn't mean the same increase to the bottom line for Hibs and a prices freeze this season will definitely mean less profit on the season tickets for Hibs.

Costs for clubs do Increase, however living costs for fans also increase. We might not make as much of a profit on the season ticket from freezing prices but the price of a ticket v inflation for the last 30 or 40 years is massively out of kilter. Clubs, including Hibs, are driven more by greed than increases to cover costs IMO.

[evy]

Costs for clubs do Increase, however living costs for fans also increase. We might not make as much of a profit on the season ticket from freezing prices but the price of a ticket v inflation for the last 30 or 40 years is massively out of kilter. Clubs, including Hibs, are driven more by greed than increases to cover costs IMO.

Don't deny that there'll be an element of greed in there. There are also fans demands on the pitch that need to be factored in, they want good players in the squad and they don't come cheap (you could argue that we've tried the cheap option as a club many times). The single biggest income driver for a football club in Scotland is ticket sales.

[nonshinyfinish]

Not sure 'greed' is the right word. Certainly the club's aim is to maximise profit (if cutting prices and selling more was the route to do that then I'm sure they would; likewise if demand consistently exceeded supply then they'd probably put prices up), but unlike a regular business it's not just profit for profit's sake.

It's not owners or shareholders getting rich – ultimately if the club is successful in increasing profit then it will end up in the pockets of players and their agents.

[Sioux]

I'm not getting this TV angle.

If you pay for a season ticket, or match by match ticket, that entitles you to have a seat, in a stadium, to watch a game of football. Nothing more, nothing less.

Incredulous to suggest that a season ticket should, in normal circumstances, allow you to sit on your sofa to watch the game.

We've heard many a time on here that Covid should be ignored, with no attendance restrictions. How does that argument stack up where those same people* want to watch the game sitting in the house, when, according to Governments, we are now entering 'normal circumstances'.

Football is a spectator sport. That doesn't meant that those spectators watch from home.

The energy the team displayed against hertz seems proof that a large attendance makes a difference, but a virtual attendance will most likely have the opposite effect.

Taking that a step further, the way Hibs played against hertz in the semi final, would have had the Hibs fans making a noise, while the other lot wouldn't have been heard. We were clearly the better team, and that might have tipped the scales for us. Would 25,000 Hibs fans have made a difference against St J in that final? Maybes aye maybes naw.

Since football started, not everyone who wanted to go, could go, for a variety of reasons, or simply didn't want to go. So, quite simply, now is the time to do away with broadcasting games.

All imho of course.

(*Disclaimer: I don't know if this is accurate, only a hunch).

[Jones28]

I'm not getting this TV angle.

If you pay for a season ticket, or match by match ticket, that entitles you to have a seat, in a stadium, to watch a game of football. Nothing more, nothing less.

Incredulous to suggest that a season ticket should, in normal circumstances, allow you to sit on your sofa to watch the game.

We've heard many a time on here that Covid should be ignored, with no attendance restrictions. How does that argument stack up where those same people* want to watch the game sitting in the house, when, according to Governments, we are now entering 'normal circumstances'.

Football is a spectator sport. That doesn't meant that those spectators watch from home.

The energy the team displayed against hertz seems proof that a large attendance makes a difference, but a virtual attendance will most likely have the opposite effect.

Taking that a step further, the way Hibs played against hertz in the semi final, would have had the Hibs fans making a noise, while the other lot wouldn't have been heard. We were clearly the better team, and that might have tipped the scales for us. Would 25,000 Hibs fans have made a difference against St J in that final? Maybes aye maybes naw.

Since football started, not everyone who wanted to go, could go, for a variety of reasons, or simply didn't want to go. So, quite simply, now is the time to do away with broadcasting games.

All imho of course.

(*Disclaimer: I don't know if this is accurate, only a hunch).

If circumstances mean a season ticket holder cannot attend why shouldn't they be able to see the game they've paid for? Seems really tight to not allow them the chance to watch it.

[evy]

If circumstances mean a season ticket holder cannot attend why shouldn't they be able to see the game they've paid for? Seems really tight to not allow them the chance to watch it.

That was the case pre-covid and no one batted and eye-lid. Time to return to that.

[danhibees1875]

That was the case pre-covid and no one batted and eye-lid. Time to return to that.

To what gain though? I can see why people who regularly miss games would want it included, but don't really see why others won't it excluded.

Things don't just have to return to normal. No-one is being asked not to attend if they want to.

I suspect the TV companies will get their way though and it won't be available, so normality will be restored sooner rather than later.

[evy]

To what gain though? I can see why people who regularly miss games would want it included, but don't really see why others won't it excluded.

Things don't just have to return to normal. No-one is being asked not to attend if they want to.

I suspect the TV companies will get their way though and it won't be available, so normality will be restored sooner rather than later.

If the 25% rumoured to not be attending to watch on telly is to believed, that alone is enough of a reason. The look of the stands with those 'sold' seats empty is pathetic and does the club no favours.

Every game being available on TV/streaming will increase the illegal steams and is another mechanism which people will use rather than attending the game in person.

A smaller argument of a pure financial aspect could be that fans in the ground are more likely to spend at a kiosk and is another revenue stream for the club, let alone the lift a bigger crowd gives the players.

[Jones28]

If the 25% rumoured to not be attending to watch on telly is to believed, that alone is enough of a reason. The look of the stands with those 'sold' seats empty is pathetic and does the club no favours.

Every game being available on TV/streaming will increase the illegal steams and is another mechanism which people will use rather than attending the game in person.

A smaller argument of a pure financial aspect could be that fans in the ground are more likely to spend at a kiosk and is another revenue stream for the club, let alone the lift a bigger crowd gives the players.

Where's that number coming from?

People streaming games on IPTV services are an issue regardless? It's still being broadcast abroad so people can see it.

People can't spend money at closed kiosks.

[BoomtownHibees]

Wonder if the “watch at home” option is also affecting walk-ups. For example, a season ticket holder attending and giving their login to someone else or a season ticket holder watching at home and having 3 or 4 mates round to watch with them rather than going to the game

[JohnM1875]

If the 25% rumoured to not be attending to watch on telly is to believed, that alone is enough of a reason. The look of the stands with those 'sold' seats empty is pathetic and does the club no favours.

Every game being available on TV/streaming will increase the illegal steams and is another mechanism which people will use rather than attending the game in person.

A smaller argument of a pure financial aspect could be that fans in the ground are more likely to spend at a kiosk and is another revenue stream for the club, let alone the lift a bigger crowd gives the players.

Why does how the stadium looks bother you though? Who cares how it looks? Surely you're enjoyment of the game isn't due to that.

If the streaming service is there then I genuinely don't see a reason why it shouldn't be given to ST holders who can't attend. I've only missed one home game since being back in the stadiums so very rarely used it myself.

[Jones28]

Wonder if the “watch at home” option is also affecting walk-ups. For example, a season ticket holder attending and giving their login to someone else or a season ticket holder watching at home and having 3 or 4 mates round to watch with them rather than going to the game

I’m fully invested in watching from home because I can’t compute the £28 ticket price. It’s just far too expensive for a game against st Johnston or Dundee.

[HFC93]

Can't believe how many of the responses on Twitter and Facebook are people struggling to under what 'frozen' means in the context of this announcement.

[Langlee Hibs]

Can see both sides of the argument regarding the telly option but as long as it's in place, attendance at ER is going to be impacted regardless of how small an impact that might be. Time for it to go or at the very least become a PPV option regardless of whether you're a season ticket holder or not.

[B.H.F.C]

If circumstances mean a season ticket holder cannot attend why shouldn't they be able to see the game they've paid for? Seems really tight to not allow them the chance to watch it.

With no limits on attendance, we’re now at the point where anybody not going is choosing not to go. I get there are some people who may not feel comfortable with going but, harsh as it sounds, it’s still their own choice.

Club need to do everything they can to get people in to the ground, it does so much more for getting people engaged and brings more potential revenue opportunities.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Why does how the stadium looks bother you though? Who cares how it looks? Surely you're enjoyment of the game isn't due to that.

If the streaming service is there then I genuinely don't see a reason why it shouldn't be given to ST holders who can't attend. I've only missed one home game since being back in the stadiums so very rarely used it myself.

in many ways it is. A full(er) stadium does add to the matchday experience. No one really wants to be rattling around with a few others in an empty stand listening to the players voices echoing around the place. (I know a full Easter Road can also be very quiet- that’s a separate issue).

and, as mentioned, the team and the support feed off each other. Been shown time and again. And a Hibs team fighting for everything and being roared on by the fans infinitely increases my enjoyment of the game.

[HH81]

Judging by crowds must be over 2k season ticket holders not attending each game.

Would people be happy to take away tv rights if meant that these plus others didn't then renew?

[chippy]

£22 per game is unreal value to be fair, and that’s for the most expensive ‘normal’ seats. Most likely including 6 category A games. The fact you’ll also be able to pay it up monthly and it’s a no brainer for me.

I’d expect there to be creative thinking around walk up prices purely as the jump at the moment is too big (over a tenner more expensive for a category A game than the average season ticket price) but beyond that can’t see anything to moan about.

Next issue is solving how to get people into stadium and the only way of doing that for me is removing the ability to watch at home.

That’s nice of you. 20000 folk in Edinburgh with Covid today and you want to stop clinically vulnerable folk like me watching at home after shelling out for 2 seasons. When it’s safe we will return but will also support the club financially in the meantime. Don’t attempt to force folk to attend. Counter productive

[Pagan Hibernia]

To those with kids who are starting to lose interest. Take heart that kids of secondary school age go through phases and other things just get in the way. A lot of them do end up returning to football and their first love Hibs in the future.

[Jones28]

With no limits on attendance, we’re now at the point where anybody not going is choosing not to go. I get there are some people who may not feel comfortable with going but, harsh as it sounds, it’s still their own choice.

Club need to do everything they can to get people in to the ground, it does so much more for getting people engaged and brings more potential revenue opportunities.


I don't disagree with any of that, and I do think it's important to get people back to ER.

But to not allow people who have already forked out £400 odd to watch the games if they can't attend I think that seems a bit ott, especially when its been going on for so long. I do think the argument for not letting those who haven't bought an ST not to view though.

[oneone73]

People who might buy three or four STs for a household might buy one or two and use the TV login for everyone. Might reduce some sales

[JohnM1875]

in many ways it is. A full(er) stadium does add to the matchday experience. No one really wants to be rattling around with a few others in an empty stand listening to the players voices echoing around the place. (I know a full Easter Road can also be very quiet- that’s a separate issue).

and, as mentioned, the team and the support feed off each other. Been shown time and again. And a Hibs team fighting for everything and being roared on by the fans infinitely increases my enjoyment of the game.

Suppose its horses for courses. Though as shown with the recent Derby (and has always really been the case regardless of Hibs TV streaming) the big games still have huge attendances.

[hibee-boys]

I think there was a lot of goodwill towards Hibs that drove season ticket purchase numbers this season, worries that the club could be in financial trouble, I was very surprised we got 11,000. Will families continue to invest money for a number of season tickets this year, with the current concerns around cost of living, if they know they can buy one for the household and haves access on TV? There’s also the impact on walk ups/season ticket sales if people know they can pick and choose what games to watch on PPV.

The clubs will all have stats on whether PPV has either positively or negatively impacted on match day revenue and will lobby appropriately. How do you put a price on reduced atmosphere though🤔

[Sir David Gray]

I think the watch from home option should remain until we reach that point that it's no longer a requirement to self isolate if you have Covid-19 or are a close contact.

I don't think it's fair to expect people to pay hundreds of pounds for a season ticket that they can't use for several times a season through no fault of their own and not give them the option of watching from home.

Once that rule is dropped I would personally drop the watch from home option.

[G15 Hibs]

I wonder how much say clubs will have in whether to retain the watch at home element of season tickets. This might have changed of course, but when it started at the beginning of 2020/21 they needed Sky to agree to it didn't they? So if Sky say 'nah' for next season then it's out the clubs' hands, presumably.

[ancient hibee]

With no limits on attendance, we’re now at the point where anybody not going is choosing not to go. I get there are some people who may not feel comfortable with going but, harsh as it sounds, it’s still their own choice.

Club need to do everything they can to get people in to the ground, it does so much more for getting people engaged and brings more potential revenue opportunities.

As my wife and I are in the worst age group for poor covid reaction I haven't been back since the original lockdown as I couldn't take the risk of bringing the virus home and have enjoyed the TV streaming. I'll renew my season ticket and make a decision about attending at the beginning of the season.It will be perfectly understandable if the club decide that the TV option will stop if the covid situation continues to improve. That would be unfortunate for me but would be the correct commercial decision for the club.

[DaveF]

As my wife and I are in the worst age group for poor covid reaction I haven't been back since the original lockdown as I couldn't take the risk of bringing the virus home and have enjoyed the TV streaming. I'll renew my season ticket and make a decision about attending at the beginning of the season.It will be perfectly understandable if the club decide that the TV option will stop if the covid situation continues to improve. That would be unfortunate for me but would be the correct commercial decision for the club.

Sensible thoughts and it would be great if the club / league could do something to accommodate people in your situation. While covid has 'gone away' for many, that's not the case for all and I do hope that's not lost when a decision is made on TV.

[hibbysam]

I buy a season ticket even though I know that with the best will in the world I may only get to one or two games at Easter Rd, I am fortunate enough to be able to buy one and just support my club that way, I still want to be able to see the game on Hibs T.V.
We cannot all be uber supporters so why would anyone wish to take something like being able to watch a game away when otherwise it would be impossible to see (unless using a dodgy stream), you dont happen to work at Saughton or Polmont do you?
I will still buy a season, but would prefer the choice of being able to watch if possible.

I’d 100% be taking the option away. Atmosphere is as important as the money and the club need bums on seats. If it’s still allowed then PPV should still be offered but even that will be taken out of our hands I expect.

[Scouse Hibee]

I’d 100% be taking the option away. Atmosphere is as important as the money and the club need bums on seats. If it’s still allowed then PPV should still be offered but even that will be taken out of our hands I expect.

Makes no sense to me to take it away, it’s a revenue stream that will disappear if folk who can’t attend then can’t watch on TV. ST for the ground or every game st home on TV makes perfect sense to me.

[percy veer]

Makes no sense to me to take it away, it’s a revenue stream that will disappear if folk who can’t attend then can’t watch on TV. ST for the ground or every game st home on TV makes perfect sense to me.

Looks like people want to be seen as uber fans what's it got to do with other peopke if wee jimmy from down the road chooses to watch it on tele he has paid for his ticket.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Looks like people want to be seen as uber fans what's it got to do with other peopke if wee jimmy from down the road chooses to watch it on tele he has paid for his ticket.

yes, a ticket to go to the match.

really makes no difference to me, I’d be perfectly happy if the tv option is retained, but it’s certainly not an entitlement. It never was before and it only is now because of special circumstances

[Allant1981]

Looks like people want to be seen as uber fans what's it got to do with other peopke if wee jimmy from down the road chooses to watch it on tele he has paid for his ticket.

Nothing to do with being an uber fan, its about wanting fans back in the stadium for me

[ancient hibee]

Looks like people want to be seen as uber fans what's it got to do with other peopke if wee jimmy from down the road chooses to watch it on tele he has paid for his ticket.

Yes but what if one guy gets the season and three pals who would have got theirs join him instead?

[PatHead]

Aside from the TV debate I must admit that I haven't enjoyed going to Easter Road for a good while now. Just haven't been getting into the games. In the not too distant past watching Hibs getting beaten really ruined my weekend. The last few weeks a defeat didn't bother me in the slightest. Adding on the number of games that I miss and these five or seven game package or fiver a match tickets I don't think I will renew.
That might change but at this moment in time I am unlikely to renew.

[hibbysam]

Makes no sense to me to take it away, it’s a revenue stream that will disappear if folk who can’t attend then can’t watch on TV. ST for the ground or every game st home on TV makes perfect sense to me.

Well it does, it means folk only have one option to watch Hibs and that’s by going to the stadium. That’ll fill the stadium more and make it a better atmosphere. If Hibs taking the option of watching on the tele away means someone doesn’t buy a season ticket then I’m at a loss as to why they’re buying a season ticket. Hopefully Sky take it out of the clubs hands.

[A Hi-Bee]

Well it does, it means folk only have one option to watch Hibs and that’s by going to the stadium. That’ll fill the stadium more and make it a better atmosphere. If Hibs taking the option of watching on the tele away means someone doesn’t buy a season ticket then I’m at a loss as to why they’re buying a season ticket. Hopefully Sky take it out of the clubs hands.

Perhaps, some just buy a season ticket to contribute to the club even if they cannot get to games. So it looks like you are still at a loss?

[A Hi-Bee]

I’d 100% be taking the option away. Atmosphere is as important as the money and the club need bums on seats. If it’s still allowed then PPV should still be offered but even that will be taken out of our hands I expect.

Well good for you Mr 100% I would trust that would make you very pleased, just as well its got nought to do with you then.

[ian cruise]

Things is there's no absolute right answer to this.

Hibs are going to lose revenue one way or the other, offer it and some will not renew season tickets because they can watch using a friend or family member's log in. Don't offer it and some won't renew.

Some fans are going to lose out.
- Remove it and those who can't get to games whether living away and buying a season ticket out of love for the club or Covid related won't get to see their team. Yes they wouldn't have preCovid but it's given them value for the money they're spending.
- Keep it and we'll definitely have less people in the stadium, that lessens the experience for those attending, potentially affecting the team on the park too (we've heard many players say a good crowd lifts their performance).

We'll all have opinions, and it's fine to debate points of view but let's stop talking to each other like we're being unreasonable just because a point of view differs and whatever the decision, try recognise Hibs were in a lose lose situation.

[hibsforeurope]

Great to see prices frozen, will be interested to see what the incentives will be. Hopefully vouchers for the shop included.
I think the TV games will depend on sky agreeing to allow clubs to show them again next season.

[Eyrie]

Great to see prices frozen, will be interested to see what the incentives will be. Hopefully vouchers for the shop included.
I think the TV games will depend on sky agreeing to allow clubs to show them again next season.

Sky shouldn't have any say over games which they aren't showing, so that would mean clubs could have a PPV option for every game except a visit from an Ugly Sister.

[hibbysam]

Well good for you Mr 100% I would trust that would make you very pleased, just as well its got nought to do with you then.

Got heehaw to do with you either but funnily enough you’ve got an opinion on it. Another strange character that wants an opinion but doesn’t want anyone with the opposite opinion to air it.

[hibbysam]

Things is there's no absolute right answer to this.

Hibs are going to lose revenue one way or the other, offer it and some will not renew season tickets because they can watch using a friend or family member's log in. Don't offer it and some won't renew.

Some fans are going to lose out.
- Remove it and those who can't get to games whether living away and buying a season ticket out of love for the club or Covid related won't get to see their team. Yes they wouldn't have preCovid but it's given them value for the money they're spending.
- Keep it and we'll definitely have less people in the stadium, that lessens the experience for those attending, potentially affecting the team on the park too (we've heard many players say a good crowd lifts their performance).

We'll all have opinions, and it's fine to debate points of view but let's stop talking to each other like we're being unreasonable just because a point of view differs and whatever the decision, try recognise Hibs were in a lose lose situation.

Without wanting to turn it into Covid chat, I’d be very surprised come August if people aren’t attending Easter Road due to Covid.

[ian cruise]

Without wanting to turn it into Covid chat, I’d be very surprised come August if people aren’t attending Easter Road due to Covid.

There's a few on here who have already stated that is their situation, I'm happy to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[lord bunberry]

The tv option will almost certainly go for next season, sky have the rights and I doubt they’ll allow clubs to show games if all covid restrictions are gone.

[Scouse Hibee]

Well it does, it means folk only have one option to watch Hibs and that’s by going to the stadium. That’ll fill the stadium more and make it a better atmosphere. If Hibs taking the option of watching on the tele away means someone doesn’t buy a season ticket then I’m at a loss as to why they’re buying a season ticket. Hopefully Sky take it out of the clubs hands.

Such a blinkered view and hoping that the enjoyment of some is taken away because you don’t like it is pretty selfish. As already said it’s another revenue stream and long may it continue for those that enjoy it. For those that want to attend it won’t affect them one bit.

[tigerted]

Very happy, since I've got older since last year. Looks like I'm getting a Senior discount for the new Season? 😁

[marinello59]

The tv option will almost certainly go for next season, sky have the rights and I doubt they’ll allow clubs to show games if all covid restrictions are gone.

:agree:
Hibs won’t have a decision to make here, Sky will be making the call.

[hibbysam]

Such a blinkered view and hoping that the enjoyment of some is taken away because you don’t like it is pretty selfish. As already said it’s another revenue stream and long may it continue for those that enjoy it. For those that want to attend it won’t affect them one bit.

Except it will as it’s undeniable that the place is emptier and quieter because of it which then affects peoples experience of the game. What’s the revenue stream part of it? There’s no substance to that at all. If there was no watch at home the majority would still buy I’ve no doubt. Folk would have to attend games to watch meaning the club would make money at catering outlets.

I want ER full, I don’t want folk watching games in the house if they can get to ER and this makes it very easy to do that (I’ve done it myself this season).

[A Hi-Bee]

Except it will as it’s undeniable that the place is emptier and quieter because of it which then affects peoples experience of the game. What’s the revenue stream part of it? There’s no substance to that at all. If there was no watch at home the majority would still buy I’ve no doubt. Folk would have to attend games to watch meaning the club would make money at catering outlets.

I want ER full, I don’t want folk watching games in the house if they can get to ER and this makes it very easy to do that (I’ve done it myself this season).

Yawn, march them to the ground at the end of a pitch-fork thats the way to get them back into the ground, welcome to the world of choice.
:greengrin

[gbhibby]

I don't see why the TV companies would have any objections to the current arrangements carrying on.
The technology is there to allow ST to view at home. Some ST holders have to travel distances to games. Clubs are also making money from PPV. SKY and other broadcasters don't pay enough money to dictate to SPFL.

[Jones28]

I don't see why the TV companies would have any objections to the current arrangements carrying on.
The technology is there to allow ST to view at home. Some ST holders have to travel distances to games. Clubs are also making money from PPV. SKY and other broadcasters don't pay enough money to dictate to SPFL.

Yepp, I don't see why Sky would get to dictate to clubs like this if they aren't broadcasting the games.

[hibbysam]

Yawn, march them to the ground at the end of a pitch-fork thats the way to get them back into the ground, welcome to the world of choice.
:greengrin

The choice to attend or not to attend.

[bigwheel]

Such a blinkered view and hoping that the enjoyment of some is taken away because you don’t like it is pretty selfish. As already said it’s another revenue stream and long may it continue for those that enjoy it. For those that want to attend it won’t affect them one bit.

It affects the crowd , which affects match day experience and the team . They would definitely prefer more people supporting them . Whilst I understand it will be inconvenient for some people, I feel it should be withdrawn . Going to support the team in the stadium, should be the main aim of any pricing structure for season tickets …

[Allant1981]

Yawn, march them to the ground at the end of a pitch-fork thats the way to get them back into the ground, welcome to the world of choice.
:greengrin

Surely you want easter road full fans? If you go to the games you must surely see the atmosphere has been terrible with next to no one in the stands

[A Hi-Bee]

The choice to attend or not to attend.

:aok: Although some such as me dont have that choice, we just pony up for a season ticket to help the club.

I would buy the season if the games are on telly or not, but it is always better to have a choice.

[G15 Hibs]

Yepp, I don't see why Sky would get to dictate to clubs like this if they aren't broadcasting the games.

It depends what the contract is though, doesn't it? If the contract that the clubs agreed was for Sky to be the exclusive broadcaster for SPFL Premiership games and Sky have waived that for the last couple of seasons to allow clubs to broadcast their own games, they still have the right to enforce that until a new contract is negotiated.

[Scouse Hibee]

Except it will as it’s undeniable that the place is emptier and quieter because of it which then affects peoples experience of the game. What’s the revenue stream part of it? There’s no substance to that at all. If there was no watch at home the majority would still buy I’ve no doubt. Folk would have to attend games to watch meaning the club would make money at catering outlets.

I want ER full, I don’t want folk watching games in the house if they can get to ER and this makes it very easy to do that (I’ve done it myself this season).

I want folk to be able to watch in the house if they can’t get to Easter Road that’s the point and the extra revenue stream is pretty obvious.

[lord bunberry]

It depends what the contract is though, doesn't it? If the contract that the clubs agreed was for Sky to be the exclusive broadcaster for SPFL Premiership games and Sky have waived that for the last couple of seasons to allow clubs to broadcast their own games, they still have the right to enforce that until a new contract is negotiated.
:agree: Clubs will have to make concessions to sky in order for it to continue. Currently they’re allowing sky to broadcast an extra game from each stadium and in return sky are allowing clubs to broadcast games. There’s not much advantage in sky allowing clubs to broadcast games, they’ve paid millions of pounds for exclusive rights to show live matches.

[B.H.F.C]

I want folk to be able to watch in the house if they can’t get to Easter Road that’s the point and the extra revenue stream is pretty obvious.

I think it’s a more likely to impact on how much we’re getting out of other revenue streams as opposed to it acting as an additional one.. Less at kiosks, less in the shop, less for advertising to an emptier stadium off the top off my head. Also leads to people being less engaged.

Think Hibs need to do everything in their power to get folk off the couch and in to the stadium and I don’t think doing away with the TV option, alone, would have any serious impact on the number of season tickets we sell.

[A Hi-Bee]

Surely you want easter road full fans? If you go to the games you must surely see the atmosphere has been terrible with next to no one in the stands

I go back to days when 5,000 crowds freezing in a huge open terrace, so of course I want Easter Rd to be full all the time, the way to ensure that is to get a good team out on the pitch, build the team and the crowd will follow. as said before many cannot make it to games for whatever reason but still have a season ticket, then a choice to watch on telly rather than a dodgy internet stream should also be available in my humble. Not having it available to watch is not gonna force people to go, the ground can be filled up with the present initiative of offering cheap tickets to them that in some cases would not be able to afford to go. The more choices you offer the better again in my humble opinion.
Perhaps the club could look at offering a free home shirt with each season ticket (it may increase the cost of a ticket slightly) sold just as they do in ice hockey in North America, I am sure that Ron has many good ways he will increase our crowds but having the product on the pitch is number 1.
:thumbsup:

[The Modfather]

I think it’s a fine line. I’m more likely to renew if watching from home is an option. Means I can do more things with my daughter in the morning and only have to be home for kick off. If they took the option away I’d be less likely to renew but may still do so. If I didn’t renew I’d probably not pay at the gate for many games at the current walk up prices as they are vastly overpriced and not value for money IMO.

[GreenCastle]

Hibs probably just want the £ and aren’t as fussed if fans turn up in person.

From that point of view offering games on TV makes sense as it’s a like a bonus of having a ST.

If they take that option away then walk ups may increase but ST sales may drop but fans attending weekly may increase.

Going to be interesting to see what they do as we all want maximum number of ST holders but also Hibs to generate ££ but what we all really want is a full ER with good atmosphere for all games.

[B.H.F.C]

Hibs probably just want the £ and aren’t as fussed if fans turn up in person.

From that point of view offering games on TV makes sense as it’s a like a bonus of having a ST.

If they take that option away then walk ups may increase but ST sales may drop but fans attending weekly may increase.

Going to be interesting to see what they do as we all want maximum number of ST holders but also Hibs to generate ££ but what we all really want is a full ER with good atmosphere for all games.

Disagree with that first point. Folk turning up has further benefits, both financial and non financial but we need folk in the ground to realise them.

[Sioux]

We might as well close ER down and become a virtual support. In terms if finance, that would make sense. A few million for selling the land, no stadium expenditure, no stewarding and police costs, less spent on staff wages etc etc.

Maybe we could get the players to train at home, and sell HTC.

The virtual fans would have less expenditure, and use less out of their already precious time currently used to get to the games.

:greengrin:greengrin

[GreenCastle]

Disagree with that first point. Folk turning up has further benefits, both financial and non financial but we need folk in the ground to realise them.

Will be interesting to see what Hibs decide.

My earlier suggestion was could they find a compromise and offer a reduced Hibs tv rate for those who can’t attend all the time but still want to renew.

[GreenCastle]

We might as well close ER down and become a virtual support. In terms if finance, that would make sense. A few million for selling the land, no stadium expenditure, no stewarding and police costs, less spent on staff wages etc etc.

Maybe we could get the players to train at home, and sell HTC.

The virtual fans would have less expenditure, and use less out of their already precious time currently used to get to the games.

:greengrin:greengrin

Sounds like a fan token…

[Shrekko]

Why does how the stadium looks bother you though? Who cares how it looks? Surely you're enjoyment of the game isn't due to that.



I'm amazed at how often folk say this.

Being part of a packed house at ANY event makes it 10 times better, and it 100 percent makes your heart sink when you see small crowds at ER when you know the size of our fanbase.

An average game can be far more enjoyable when the place is more or less full -it makes it a far greater occasion even seeing the queues outside leading up to kick off.

[B.H.F.C]

Will be interesting to see what Hibs decide.

My earlier suggestion was could they find a compromise and offer a reduced Hibs tv rate for those who can’t attend all the time but still want to renew.

Not sure Hibs (or any club) will have a choice, think Sky will make the decision for them and they won’t be allowed to show anything.

[GreenCastle]

We might as well close ER down and become a virtual support. In terms if finance, that would make sense. A few million for selling the land, no stadium expenditure, no stewarding and police costs, less spent on staff wages etc etc.

Maybe we could get the players to train at home, and sell HTC.

The virtual fans would have less expenditure, and use less out of their already precious time currently used to get to the games.

:greengrin:greengrin

Sounds like a fan token…

[Eyrie]

Not sure Hibs (or any club) will have a choice, think Sky will make the decision for them and they won’t be allowed to show anything.

Which is ridiculous, because someone watching Hibs vs Ross County tomorrow at 3pm has no impact on Sky showing Dundee United vs Ugly Sister Sevco on Sunday.

Sky would have a case if the games were being played at the same time, but even then I wouldn't watch whichever Ugly Sister they're showing so Sky still wouldn't benefit.

[Since90+2]

Which is ridiculous, because someone watching Hibs vs Ross County tomorrow at 3pm has no impact on Sky showing Dundee United vs Ugly Sister Sevco on Sunday.

Sky would have a case if the games were being played at the same time, but even then I wouldn't watch whichever Ugly Sister they're showing so Sky still wouldn't benefit.

It could however impact how many people watch their Soccer Saturday show. If I wasn't able to make the game I'd watch it online whereas typically I'd watch Soccer Saturday.

[Bridge hibs]

I think it’s a more likely to impact on how much we’re getting out of other revenue streams as opposed to it acting as an additional one.. Less at kiosks, less in the shop, less for advertising to an emptier stadium off the top off my head. Also leads to people being less engaged.

Think Hibs need to do everything in their power to get folk off the couch and in to the stadium and I don’t think doing away with the TV option, alone, would have any serious impact on the number of season tickets we sell.Good points, how much revenue do hibs actually make on a match day. An couple of examples, other than West stand hospitality we have nothing, no Almond Suite/Behind the goals bar anymore, no physical match day programne, kiosks pretty much the same with average food with inflated prices, no bookies kiosks (yeah Im aware thats a contentious issue) so other than bums on seats, make it full rather than empty green seats, where is the revenue pull ?

Ive stated my reason for non attendance the past couple of years although contributed to HSL and by purchasing my season ticket as well as shopping online from the hibs store. Other than buying a rotten pie or a watery coffee what are hibs actually missing, other than my fat arse on a seat ?

If I dont make a game which is more often than not, Im still ponying up, why should I be penalised for wanting to grab the second half of a game due to circumstances outwith my control ?

[B.H.F.C]

Good points, how much revenue do hibs actually make on a match day. An couple of examples, other than West stand hospitality we have nothing, no Almond Suite/Behind the goals bar anymore, no physical match day programne, kiosks pretty much the same with average food with inflated prices, no bookies kiosks (yeah Im aware thats a contentious issue) so other than bums on seats, make it full rather than empty green seats, where is the revenue pull ?

Ive stated my reason for non attendance the past couple of years although contributed to HSL and by purchasing my season ticket as well as shopping online from the hibs store. Other than buying a rotten pie or a watery coffee what are hibs actually missing, other than my fat arse on a seat ?

If I dont make a game which is more often than not, Im still ponying up, why should I be penalised for wanting to grab the second half of a game due to circumstances outwith my control ?

Ron Gordon brought all the catering in house to start making money from it. If a couple of thousand folk are staying away, you’re making less money. Same with the big screens, they were brought in to help make money. Number of people there has an impact on what you can charge for advertising. I know it sounds quite simplistic putting it like that but the best way for Hibs to make money is by getting folk in to the ground (and there are other non financial benefits to it as well).

With the Covid restrictions gone, anyone not going now is choosing not to do so rather than being forced not to go (even if I understand that some people don’t want to go due to it).

[JimBHibees]

Hibs probably just want the £ and aren’t as fussed if fans turn up in person.

From that point of view offering games on TV makes sense as it’s a like a bonus of having a ST.

If they take that option away then walk ups may increase but ST sales may drop but fans attending weekly may increase.

Going to be interesting to see what they do as we all want maximum number of ST holders but also Hibs to generate ££ but what we all really want is a full ER with good atmosphere for all games.

Of course we are fussed about fans at the stadium why do you think we are offering cheap tickets. Watching on tv needs to stop as clearly a big disincentive to fans attending

[weecounty hibby]

I can see both sides of the debate. I have an ST and have for years but always miss a few games a season, sometimes as many as half the home games. Due to tv access, this season and last actually meant that I probably saw Hibs more than I have since the days where I would be at every match home and away. I will buy our STs again next season regardless but its not as simple as saying if you remove the TV access then all STs will be at all games

[Bridge hibs]

Ron Gordon brought all the catering in house to start making money from it. If a couple of thousand folk are staying away, you’re making less money. Same with the big screens, they were brought in to help make money. Number of people there has an impact on what you can charge for advertising. I know it sounds quite simplistic putting it like that but the best way for Hibs to make money is by getting folk in to the ground (and there are other non financial benefits to it as well).

With the Covid restrictions gone, anyone not going now is choosing not to do so rather than being forced not to go (even if I understand that some people don’t want to go due to it).I still think there is a minimal profit taking catering in house as is a bar facility. I was a member of the old Almond suite and loved the exclusivity, a few pints before the game and up to your seat. Overall though it was rank, **** beer, **** pour from the taps and overall ****ness

Again though, I pay for my season ticket, I dont attend, I dont visit the shop but I use the shop online, hibs are only losing my coffee money, hardly going to bankrupt us is it ?

[B.H.F.C]

I still think there is a minimal profit taking catering in house as is a bar facility. I was a member of the old Almond suite and loved the exclusivity, a few pints before the game and up to your seat. Overall though it was rank, **** beer, **** pour from the taps and overall ****ness

Again though, I pay for my season ticket, I dont attend, I dont visit the shop but I use the shop online, hibs are only losing my coffee money, hardly going to bankrupt us is it ?

I don’t think we’ll lose a significant number of season ticket holders when TV benefit is removed. People bought season tickets without it before and they will again. Obviously you not going isn’t going to bankrupt us but there is a far bigger picture from match day revenue to atmosphere in the ground to encouraging the next generation of support. Thousands of empty seats weekly isn’t good for any of that.

[Bridge hibs]

I don’t think we’ll lose a significant number of season ticket holders when TV benefit is removed. People bought season tickets without it before and they will again. Obviously you not going isn’t going to bankrupt us but there is a far bigger picture from match day revenue to atmosphere in the ground to encouraging the next generation of support. Thousands of empty seats weekly isn’t good for any of that.I am still swithering, my games attended the past couple of years are on the wane, my only wee chance is rushing home after work and perhaps grabbing second half or some of second half kind of keeps me in touch, if thats taken away then I will more likely not bother. Its my only benefit, not much to ask for in return for a wee bit financial loyalty

[JimBHibees]

I can see both sides of the debate. I have an ST and have for years but always miss a few games a season, sometimes as many as half the home games. Due to tv access, this season and last actually meant that I probably saw Hibs more than I have since the days where I would be at every match home and away. I will buy our STs again next season regardless but its not as simple as saying if you remove the TV access then all STs will be at all games

It's not as simple however would be amazed if all clubs would sign up to season ticket tv deal again.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It's not as simple however would be amazed if all clubs would sign up to season ticket tv deal again.

Has the 3pm no live game rule been removed forever or was it only a temporary thing?

[JimBHibees]

Has the 3pm no live game rule been removed forever or was it only a temporary thing?

As far as I am aware it is still in place on Saturdays

[flash]

I can see both sides of the argument but the deciding factor for me is that football is a spectator sport which benefits greatly from a decent crowd and atmosphere.
People have understandably got out of the habit of attending and the continued option of watching at home will do nothing to change that.
It would be good if we could offer the TV option to those who buy a season ticket simply to support the club but I certainly wouldn't be offering this to everyone regardless of personal circumstances.
Anyway it's not my decision so we shall see.

[Danderhall Hibs]

As far as I am aware it is still in place on Saturdays

Is it only online games at 3pm they’re allowing to be shown? And is that a permanent change?

[Eyrie]

It suits me to have the TV option today as my perennial cough has flared up so sitting in the cold this afternoon doesn't make sense. And whilst coughing doesn't bother me, in the current situation it would concern those around me as they don't have my decades of experience at ignoring it.

Long term, I'd like to see the TV option retained for season ticket holders. I buy my season ticket knowing that I won't make every game (particularly midweek) but Covid has proved that it is possible for an alternative to be provided so that those in my situation don't miss out on a game we've already paid for. The game is being televised anyway for overseas fans, and there's a natural limit on how many season tickets we can sell.

[JimBHibees]

Is it only online games at 3pm they’re allowing to be shown? And is that a permanent change?

Must be only season ticket holders access as far as I am aware only this season deal

[B.H.F.C]

It suits me to have the TV option today as my perennial cough has flared up so sitting in the cold this afternoon doesn't make sense. And whilst coughing doesn't bother me, in the current situation it would concern those around me as they don't have my decades of experience at ignoring it.

Long term, I'd like to see the TV option retained for season ticket holders. I buy my season ticket knowing that I won't make every game (particularly midweek) but Covid has proved that it is possible for an alternative to be provided so that those in my situation don't miss out on a game we've already paid for. The game is being televised anyway for overseas fans, and there's a natural limit on how many season tickets we can sell.

I don’t think the club can sustain an option that discourages people from going to the game. That’s not a dig by the way, but for example folk might look at the weather and decide not to go based on that whereas before, they’d have just put an extra jumper on or whatever. We’re seeing how difficult it can be to get folk back once they’re out the habit. Covid has shown that an option can be offered, but I don’t think the benefits of offering outweigh the negatives of less people turning up at ER.

[MKHIBEE]

Perhaps, some just buy a season ticket to contribute to the club even if they cannot get to games. So it looks like you are still at a loss?


Thats my position, I very rarely get to games but I want support my team. It’s great being able to watch games but If that goes I will still buy a season ticket