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James70
15-02-2022, 06:07 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-john-mcginn-transfer-26237782

Sir David Gray
15-02-2022, 06:38 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-john-mcginn-transfer-26237782

Fingers crossed - I believe we stand to receive over £5 million if the reported figures are accurate.

Good move for Manchester Utd too.

Lendo
15-02-2022, 06:38 PM
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/man-utd-john-mcginn-transfer-26237782

We could make a lot of B-team signings with the sell-on-clause money :wink:

Auckland Hibs
15-02-2022, 06:42 PM
5m from McGinn clause and 3m from Boyle - there should be a decent transfer fund for our summer recruitment.

Forza Fred
15-02-2022, 08:12 PM
Fingers crossed - I believe we stand to receive over £5 million if the reported figures are accurate.

Good move for Manchester Utd too.

It’s the Mirror speculating to fill column inches.

Not going to happen.

HoboHarry
15-02-2022, 08:19 PM
Can't really imagine that this is true when they haven't even got a manager yet for next season?

Unseen work
15-02-2022, 08:20 PM
I just refuse to believe this will happen now, feel like it’s been rumoured every window for the last 3 years.

James70
15-02-2022, 08:20 PM
Can't really imagine that this is true when they haven't even got a manager yet for next season?

https://weallfollowunited.com/2022/02/15/liverpool-transfer-news-man-utd-manchester-united-target-john-mcginn-aston-villa/

Libby Hibby
15-02-2022, 08:22 PM
Perfect fit for Man U

HoboHarry
15-02-2022, 08:25 PM
https://weallfollowunited.com/2022/02/15/liverpool-transfer-news-man-utd-manchester-united-target-john-mcginn-aston-villa/
If there is any truth in the article and he chose Man U over Liverpool he'd need smacked up side the head....

LewysGot2
15-02-2022, 08:43 PM
If there is any truth in the article and he chose Man U over Liverpool he'd need smacked up side the head....

He's cut from the same cloth as Henderson and Milner. Hard working, professional, driven. Both of them are getting to the latter stage of their career. I think SJM is actually a Liverpool fan, too. There's photos online of him at Anfield just behind the dug out with Brendan Rodgers in the foreground that surfaced when Celtic missed out on him 😉

There's his pal Robertson there, too.

Fergus52
15-02-2022, 09:00 PM
5m from McGinn clause and 3m from Boyle - there should be a decent transfer fund for our summer recruitment.

I'm worried the Boyle money will have plugged the COVID hole.

In Hearts' most recent account their revenue from tickets and sponsors etc. was down over £3 million from COVID, we will surely have a similar reduction in income but unfortunately we don't have FoH and Anderson pumping several million pounds in each year.

WeeRussell
15-02-2022, 09:04 PM
He's cut from the same cloth as Henderson and Milner. Hard working, professional, driven. Both of them are getting to the latter stage of their career. I think SJM is actually a Liverpool fan, too. There's photos online of him at Anfield just behind the dug out with Brendan Rodgers in the foreground that surfaced when Celtic missed out on him 😉

There's his pal Robertson there, too.

Is he actually pals with Robbo.. or just that they’re both Scottish internationals? Any reason to believe he’s more friendly with him that he is Mctominay, for example?

Never knew he was a Liverpool fan either!

jacomo
15-02-2022, 09:07 PM
Can't really imagine that this is true when they haven't even got a manager yet for next season?


Exactly, it can only be speculation.

The situation at that club is so weird.

1875Sean
15-02-2022, 09:07 PM
If there is any truth in the article and he chose Man U over Liverpool he'd need smacked up side the head....

The difference is Liverpool would never shell out anywhere near that amount for McGinn

Ringothedog
15-02-2022, 09:19 PM
I'm worried the Boyle money will have plugged the COVID hole.

In Hearts' most recent account their revenue from tickets and sponsors etc. was down over £3 million from COVID, we will surely have a similar reduction in income but unfortunately we don't have FoH and Anderson pumping several million pounds in each year.
Did we not have insurance which covered our losses due to the pandemic?

660
15-02-2022, 09:20 PM
Did we not have insurance which covered our losses due to the pandemic?

Yes we were due 2m I think.

mjhibby
15-02-2022, 09:32 PM
If it happens it happens. Nothing we can influence. Ron can't budget on speculation but I'm sure he will know if this is in any way likely. If it does happen obviously it changes our transfer targets enormously. I'd hope we would get a couple of real marquee signings to augment the good young talent we have. Sjm I'm sure would love to test himself at utd or Liverpool. Time will tell.

The Harp Awakes
15-02-2022, 09:51 PM
Fingers crossed - I believe we stand to receive over £5 million if the reported figures are accurate.

Good move for Manchester Utd too.

15%, so if a £50m transfer fee, then £7.5m for Hibs minus whatever St Mirren are due. A tidy sum for us and a great piece of business by the club.

A true Hibs hero in presence on the pitch, as well as value off it.

Sir David Gray
15-02-2022, 11:23 PM
15%, so if a £50m transfer fee, then £7.5m for Hibs minus whatever St Mirren are due. A tidy sum for us and a great piece of business by the club.

A true Hibs hero in presence on the pitch, as well as value off it.

They're apparently due 30% of our 15% cut so if the fee is £50 million, St Mirren will get £2.25 million of our £7.5 million which will leave us with £5.25 million.

Pretty Boy
16-02-2022, 07:38 AM
Can't really imagine that this is true when they haven't even got a manager yet for next season?

Most managers, certainly at the top level but even at the likes of Hibs and Hearts, don't identify their own signings now. Of course they have the final word but the new manager at United will be working closely with Ralf Rangnick and will be presented with a list of problem areas and a shortlist of players for each one. There is every chance McGinn will be on such a list as the midfield is evidently a huge issue for them (albeit so is defence and attack).

MWHIBBIES
16-02-2022, 08:15 AM
Ndidi or bissouma are the ones man United should go for.

nonshinyfinish
16-02-2022, 08:21 AM
There is every chance McGinn will be on such a list as the midfield is evidently a huge issue for them (albeit so is defence and attack).

Like the idea of a recruitment department sitting down to prioritise their transfer business and someone going "right, I think our absolute number one priority has to be central defence, full backs, central midfield, wide midfield, attacking midfield and strikers".

Greencore
16-02-2022, 08:30 AM
Put the bid upto 70 million 😂

Just_Jimmy
16-02-2022, 08:38 AM
Ndidi or bissouma are the ones man United should go for.Exactly, why would United pay 50mill for Mcginn who the article says Villa will replace with N'Didi? Just cut out the middle and sign N'Didi considering that's the issue in Uniteds midfield.

SJM is brilliant and I'd love hibs to benefit too but I don't see it. I also got mocked by a few on here when he was at Hibs saying he's a better player for Utds midfield than mctominay.

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patlowe
16-02-2022, 08:48 AM
Like all of us, I love SJM wholeheartedly but he's far too inconsistent to play at the very top level IMO. It doesn't take too much digging to see that there have been plenty grumblings about his performances since Villa got promoted, despite rightly being a bit of a hero due to his personality and character. On his day he can be incredible, and his style is often a joy to watch, but he lacks the real quality and consistency to anchor the midfield of a top club IMO. There must be something going on between agents and journos for this rumour to keep resurfacing but I just can't see it coming to fruition. Would be delighted to be proved wrong though!

CallumLaidlaw
16-02-2022, 08:53 AM
Like all of us, I love SJM wholeheartedly but he's far too inconsistent to play at the very top level IMO. It doesn't take too much digging to see that there have been plenty grumblings about his performances since Villa got promoted, despite rightly being a bit of a hero due to his personality and character. On his day he can be incredible, and his style is often a joy to watch, but he lacks the real quality and consistency to anchor the midfield of a top club IMO. There must be something going on between agents and journos for this rumour to keep resurfacing but I just can't see it coming to fruition. Would be delighted to be proved wrong though!

Hmm I disagree. Villa fans are notoriously hard to please tbh, and barring a spell when he came back from injury, his form has been consistently good in the Prem. Even on off days, he works hard and plays a part for the team, but he’s very rarely less than a 7/10.


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blackpoolhibs
16-02-2022, 09:19 AM
I've no information on this either way, but my gut feeling is he may well play out his career at Villa, and any money we will get will be minimum if he leaves much later in his career.

I hope i'm wrong and Man U sign him this summer for £70m. :greengrin

hibbyfraelibby
16-02-2022, 09:23 AM
I'm worried the Boyle money will have plugged the COVID hole.

In Hearts' most recent account their revenue from tickets and sponsors etc. was down over £3 million from COVID, we will surely have a similar reduction in income but unfortunately we don't have FoH and Anderson pumping several million pounds in each year.

...but unlike them we appear to have had proper business continuity insurance in place that paid out and covered a high proportion of the shortfall.

flash
16-02-2022, 09:40 AM
Exactly, why would United pay 50mill for Mcginn who the article says Villa will replace with N'Didi? Just cut out the middle and sign N'Didi considering that's the issue in Uniteds midfield.

SJM is brilliant and I'd love hibs to benefit too but I don't see it. I also got mocked by a few on here when he was at Hibs saying he's a better player for Utds midfield than mctominay.

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Presumably because they rate McGinn higher than N'didi?

Pagan Hibernia
16-02-2022, 09:42 AM
The difference is Liverpool would never shell out anywhere near that amount for McGinn

it’s their loss if they don’t. He’s worth every penny

cannastar
16-02-2022, 09:59 AM
if villa had a manager who could realise that sjm best position is attacking midfield then johns form would be better than it is just now.defensive midfield stifles his natural game. proved he can hold his own in epl over the time he has been there just needs to not be saddled with the donkey work week after week. im still conviced he would be a revelation on the continent.

jacomo
16-02-2022, 10:33 AM
Like all of us, I love SJM wholeheartedly but he's far too inconsistent to play at the very top level IMO. It doesn't take too much digging to see that there have been plenty grumblings about his performances since Villa got promoted, despite rightly being a bit of a hero due to his personality and character. On his day he can be incredible, and his style is often a joy to watch, but he lacks the real quality and consistency to anchor the midfield of a top club IMO. There must be something going on between agents and journos for this rumour to keep resurfacing but I just can't see it coming to fruition. Would be delighted to be proved wrong though!


I also disagree.

Man Utd are clearly not a terrible side, but they suffer from too many draws and a lack of personality in their team.

McGinn would be like dropping a grenade into their midfield - unpredictable and inconsistent perhaps, but they sorely need a player or two who will break the lines and disrupt games.

danhibees1875
16-02-2022, 02:20 PM
if villa had a manager who could realise that sjm best position is attacking midfield then johns form would be better than it is just now.defensive midfield stifles his natural game. proved he can hold his own in epl over the time he has been there just needs to not be saddled with the donkey work week after week. im still conviced he would be a revelation on the continent.

This frustrates me too.

I religiously play, and captain, John McGinn in fantasy football due to his time here... He doesn't return me many points! I was watching some highlights at the weekend and there was a villa attack where 8 villa players were further forward than him - he needs to get moved up and into the action.

A coutinho injury might help that. :greengrin

MWHIBBIES
16-02-2022, 02:43 PM
it’s their loss if they don’t. He’s worth every penny

Liverpool would be able to get better players for the price Villa would want for McGinn.

Just_Jimmy
16-02-2022, 02:53 PM
Presumably because they rate McGinn higher than N'didi?They might, but for that position in their midfield they'd be wrong.

N'Didi is a top defensive midfielder and should be on all the top clubs list as a target.

I'd love SJM to join utd and be a success but I'll believe it when I see it. Agents always use Utds name to get players out there.

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MWHIBBIES
16-02-2022, 03:09 PM
Presumably because they rate McGinn higher than N'didi?

Ndidi is a brilliant ball winning midfielder. 2 years younger than McGinn, with far more experience at that level and in Europe. I love McGinn, but from the 2, as a defensive midfielder, I'd be signing Ndidi.

weecounty hibby
16-02-2022, 03:38 PM
Ndidi is a brilliant ball winning midfielder. 2 years younger than McGinn, with far more experience at that level and in Europe. I love McGinn, but from the 2, as a defensive midfielder, I'd be signing Ndidi.

I'm no Pep Guardiola but i have seen enough of SJM to know he is not a defensive midfielder. Get him up the park where he played for us and where he plays for Scotland and he is a top player

Just_Jimmy
16-02-2022, 03:49 PM
I'm no Pep Guardiola but i have seen enough of SJM to know he is not a defensive midfielder. Get him up the park where he played for us and where he plays for Scotland and he is a top playerAbsolutely, but that isn't the issue in United's midfield. Hence I cannot see them going for mcginn.

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660
16-02-2022, 03:52 PM
SJM is the best player in the world and is worth 500m

JohnM1875
16-02-2022, 03:53 PM
SJM is the best player in the world and is worth 500m

Hard to disagree with that.

J-C
16-02-2022, 03:53 PM
Absolutely, but that isn't the issue in United's midfield. Hence I cannot see them going for mcginn.

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United's problems is more to do with lack of energy and half hearted players, watch them most weeks and you'll see half of them jogging about, particularly when they lose the ball. The space and time given to other teams is shocking.

LewysGot2
16-02-2022, 04:41 PM
Is he actually pals with Robbo.. or just that they’re both Scottish internationals? Any reason to believe he’s more friendly with him that he is Mctominay, for example?

Never knew he was a Liverpool fan either!

Robertson and SJM know each other from way back playing youth football. They're in the same year.

I've found the photo of SJM in the home end at Anfield but no idea how to load it on here.
It's Liverpool v Basel in Europe when Brenda was manager.

Mind you, he supports Celtic and he's not ended up there (hopefully never) either😉

And the same could be said for Robertson 😄

Man U definitely seem inclined to ***** money away more readily than Liverpool but the profit on McGinn will be massive even if he didn't leave for Grealish sums. TBH nobody is going to pay what City paid for JG for SJM. Even their next door neighbours

Just_Jimmy
16-02-2022, 04:59 PM
United's problems is more to do with lack of energy and half hearted players, watch them most weeks and you'll see half of them jogging about, particularly when they lose the ball. The space and time given to other teams is shocking.

I do watch them most weeks. I live in Manchester and I'm regularly at Old Trafford.

I'm not a Utd supporter. You're not wrong either, but they're not spending 50+mill on SJM to fix an energy and drive problem when they need a proper defensive midfielder who can set up play in the Carrick mold.


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loanheadhibby
16-02-2022, 05:16 PM
Like all of us, I love SJM wholeheartedly but he's far too inconsistent to play at the very top level IMO. It doesn't take too much digging to see that there have been plenty grumblings about his performances since Villa got promoted, despite rightly being a bit of a hero due to his personality and character. On his day he can be incredible, and his style is often a joy to watch, but he lacks the real quality and consistency to anchor the midfield of a top club IMO. There must be something going on between agents and journos for this rumour to keep resurfacing but I just can't see it coming to fruition. Would be delighted to be proved wrong though!
Tend to agree with you. SJM is a great player and has made the transition to the Prem brilliantly.
If Man U are going to challenge City and Liverpool I think they probably need better than McGinn and may need to push the boat out.

1875Sean
16-02-2022, 05:18 PM
it’s their loss if they don’t. He’s worth every penny

I love SJM but I don’t think he gets in the Liverpool strongest midfield

gbhibby
16-02-2022, 05:56 PM
SJM has been brilliant in a Scotland jersey. He plays in his best position when playing for Scotland. He plays in a different position for Villa so he is not as effective.He is not a ball winning midfielder If Fergie was still in charge at Utd SJM would be a Man Utd player by now.

Hibbyradge
16-02-2022, 07:19 PM
SJM is one of my favourite players of all time and if he signs for Manchester United, I'll try to get a season ticket.

I'm still holding out hope that Leeds United break the bank to buy him.

I don't particularly like Leeds but it's a lot closer than Old Trafford.

147lothian
16-02-2022, 07:37 PM
I love SJM but I don’t think he gets in the Liverpool strongest midfield

I get what your saying but it could be one for the future if Liverpool go for him Milner is 36, Adrian is 35

MWHIBBIES
16-02-2022, 07:46 PM
I get what your saying but it could be one for the future if Liverpool go for him Milner is 36, Adrian is 35

McGinn is 27, he isn't one for the future. Milner is a squad player who might be leaving. Probably will renew for a year. Adrian is a keeper.

For the price McGinn would cost, Liverpool would be expecting a world class midfielder to go beside Fabinho. There is just no way they're going for McGinn.

Pagan Hibernia
16-02-2022, 07:58 PM
SJM is one of my favourite players of all time and if he signs for Manchester United, I'll try to get a season ticket.

I'm still holding out hope that Leeds United break the bank to buy him.

I don't particularly like Leeds but it's a lot closer than Old Trafford.

a season ticket to see SJM? Respect! They’re not cheap in the English premier league

Hibbyradge
16-02-2022, 08:19 PM
a season ticket to see SJM? Respect! They’re not cheap in the English premier league

The chances of me actually getting one would be slim, but I'd try.

Just_Jimmy
16-02-2022, 09:19 PM
The chances of me actually getting one would be slim, but I'd try.They're not difficult to get really. I got mine after being in Manchester for a year and having a membership that season. They do a ballot each year of members and if they don't sell to those people they move on to the next. They're not overly expensive on certain areas either.

I wouldn't worry about it anyway mate, he's not joining United and Leeds is a step backwards now.

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1875Sean
16-02-2022, 09:55 PM
I get what your saying but it could be one for the future if Liverpool go for him Milner is 36, Adrian is 35

I think Harvey Elliot, Curtis Jones are one’s the future, mcginn is 28 this year can’t see him getting a game for Liverpool, maybe Man Utd but I honestly can’t see anyone paying £100m for him, decent player at that level but isn’t an elite player that will move Man U on to the next level

ZitellZeTime
16-02-2022, 11:29 PM
if villa had a manager who could realise that sjm best position is attacking midfield then johns form would be better than it is just now.defensive midfield stifles his natural game. proved he can hold his own in epl over the time he has been there just needs to not be saddled with the donkey work week after week. im still conviced he would be a revelation on the continent.

I do agree with you the holding roll he plays decent enough but not stand out, but when he came back from injury last season and they moved grealish further out wide and they gave him what I feel his best role was, like when Scott Brown was at Hibs he played that box to box type, feel Mcginn was better at it though, or more mature at it considerig he had just joined a new team. Enigmatic teanacious mdfielder who never hides has an engine that can make him run all over the park for 90 mins can save us at the back help in the surge forward and also spray balls from midfield. I'm in now way comparing him in quality to these players, but it's something Man Utd have missed since Roy Keane, Pogba isn't interested there if they can get rid of him and someone who wants to play for the jersey like Mcginn, I know Mctominay is but id see him more as a squad player, someone to hold things when John surges forward, hes about to hit his peak years, had experience now in the premiership, he really could do it, he's even in the mould of Gerrard himself although not quite as talented.

I also disagree he's had a bad season, he looked great until they started getting injuries and he got a more restricted role but as they come back he will get that role again. I reckon 50 mil is a steal for them. Could see Newcastle going for him with all the money they're floating around. Can't see Liverpool going for him when they rate Henderson so highly in a similar kind of role. If Cabellos or whatever his name is leaves arsenal at the end of his loan I could see them putting in a cheeky wee offer too.

Fletcher scored plenty goals and had plenty big signings and wages back in the day and I feel Mcginn is another level to him (hibs fletcher), funnily enough a darren fletcher would suit him perfectly at man utd in the middle with McTominay and Fred on the Bench. Unless Ronaldo improves I can see both him and Pogba moving on in the summer, a lot of money to waste for a player who is getting in position but just not doing enough, time to hang up his boots or go the USA I think. The money they'd save on both their wages and a potential fee for Pogba would be mental. Get Mcginn. another Central Midfielder in who is class and wants to play for the Jersey would solve a lot of their problems, theres talk of them selling Fernandes or swapping for Dybala, that would be interesting too as I really rate Dybala, but sometimes from the italian league they are either amazing or don't like it. Although he I do feel he's a player who could cope with the speed and physical side of English football, who to replace Ronaldo with and another central defender is a must do and thats the spine of their team sorted. I honestly think Mcginn would shine given the opportunity of being a box to box midfielder there and depending on other signings and outgoings could win Trophies. Could see Everton spending a bit in the summer and trying to get him too. But if I was him id stay the **** away from Newcastle.

Sorry I know this is my first post, but I was a lurker since like Mowbray era. Sure I was at Telford College back then, or Edinburgh College whatever its called now and i used to use for read only to try get transfer news etc. I did make at one point but when it was announced Alan O'brien as a marquee siging, transfer fee and the wage reported at his time and the famous "Ivan Sproule on a motorcycle quote" well I'd actually saw him play a good bit before and all he did was ****ing run, he was terrible I couldn't believe we signed him, I replied that we wasted that money on him to some guy called cat and some other mod or private member whatever it is, i was calyspsokinglatapy or something, next day faxed back to Kaunas for being a Jambo, despite meeting a user of .net before a game to seel him a pic of easter road framed ans signed by Sauzee, Latapy round it etc and a book called 100 years of hibs before the game, id been a season ticket holder from 12 years old and never made a new account until couple years ago just so i could read when main thread was locked

I've only been a walk up fan the last few years mostly in warmer weather unless I can get someone to watch the kid, kept the season ticket til he was like 4 or 5, he just turned 9 and I took him to St Johnstone defeat just before all the covid, been a few games hes wanted to go to thelast few months, but he refuses to wear a tracksuit, or even hoody, he wants to rock up for wed night games at 7.45pm kick off coming from East Lothian, wants to wear his strip and has a meltdown when I explain why he cant do that in the winter lol. So a spring/summer walk up fan it will be mostly with him now a die hard hibee

But yeah I told them when I saw Collins signings I had a bad feeling it was going to turn into a disaster when he started building his own team, paid good wages for some players too, I always like Hong Kong Thierry for some reason lol but Rankin had an average spell with utd after us then went down the leagues same with Brian Kerr. I have to Admit Donaldson I thought was going to be good, and he did end up doing well in league one then for a couple of Championship rounds before drying his scoring up about 2018/19 when he was 34 or something and speed was part of his game, he needed more time with us and he could have been a starm Same with Antoine Courier, there was a player in there like and I feel we let him go to soon. I liked him reminded me a bit of that guy we got from the Championship or something El Alagui, but he had that bad injury, looked just what needed at the time too. I'm ashamed to say I was excited by Makalambay and that felipe moraiz, i remeber watching Moraiz and he looked technical and great, unsure if it was pressure or the physicalness of our game but didn't work out, Makalambay had all the physical features for a goalie, had a lot of good coaches say good things about him and he was only 22/23 so I obviously expected mistakes as a learning curve, but I don't know if it was confidence shot or what as im sure his career totally nosdived after being at us. Those were two I got wrong lol. Zinidine Zerabi and Patrick Noubissie too, If there were anymore influxes that year I hopefully have forgotten them !

But Yeah Alex Miller was manager when my uncle got me into Hibs as my dad likes football but doesn't really support any club, doesn'y like Rangers or Celtic, or their fans specifically. Just hopes anyone else wins the league, obviously happier with Hibs as he has grown fonder to them over the years taking me to games when my uncle couldn'y in the Alex Miller/Jim Duffy years, then was with my mates but still keeps an eye out for the scores.
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Anyway sorry I was replying to one thing about Mcginn and I feel like I've turned it into the new kid at class tjread

AgentDaleCooper
16-02-2022, 11:52 PM
although he's a totally different player with totally different qualities, i think he would basically perform the functions that Utd have been hoping Pogba would be able to do for years - attacking threat but tracking back and chipping in defensively.

who'd have thought four years ago that you'd be able to say that about oor SJM - 'he could do the job for Utd that pogba can't'. can't describe how proud i am of him.

ZitellZeTime
17-02-2022, 01:51 AM
although he's a totally different player with totally different qualities, i think he would basically perform the functions that Utd have been hoping Pogba would be able to do for years - attacking threat but tracking back and chipping in defensively.

who'd have thought four years ago that you'd be able to say that about oor SJM - 'he could do the job for Utd that pogba can't'. can't describe how proud i am of him.

Absolutely true, think Pogba see's himself more of just a sit betweem midfield and striker role and score loads like at Juve, he looks like he cant be arsed half the time, It's quite clear he wants out of there and has had for ages, He does have one wonder game every now and again but thats not good enough for the fee and wages. He also tends to do it in the champs league or big games in general, or plays excellent for france and runs about like mad, he cant be arsed with any game thats not against a big team where he wont be in the headlines for something or playing for france being noticed on the world stage hoping for a transfer, they need to cut their losses and get a proper spine of a team, Ronaldos wages alone could bring in two absolutely excellent world class much younger much hungrier, less greedy players. Someone in the Van Nisterlrooy, or even Andy Cole mold. Somene like Vlahovic but juve signed him from Fiorentina. couple good centre mids Varane would look like a new signing without having to cover up mcguires mistakes, and Mcginn being given a box to box role, saving them at the back and pushing forward, not sure who id sign to partner him but I honestly think he'd fit in well there if they recruit other players well.

Whether its Man Utd or someone else he is definitely capable of being a starter in his preferred position at one of the top 6 clubs I think. Especially since Madrid might call their boy back from Arsenal after his year extended contract, they sign him and a few others then they couold begin to make back up there, I just want to see him win even an FA cup and get into the Champions League one year. I know hes not a Hibs player anymore but he could have pushed for a move long before now, the guy does have loyalty. Thats also why I could see him accept a new contract from villa if it was under his terms of how he wants to be positioned etc. I mean he didn't even push for a move for St Mirren until Thomson was practicing for the Olympics with the corner flags as Javelins

MWHIBBIES
17-02-2022, 04:14 AM
Absolutely true, think Pogba see's himself more of just a sit betweem midfield and striker role and score loads like at Juve, he looks like he cant be arsed half the time, It's quite clear he wants out of there and has had for ages, He does have one wonder game every now and again but thats not good enough for the fee and wages. He also tends to do it in the champs league or big games in general, or plays excellent for france and runs about like mad, he cant be arsed with any game thats not against a big team where he wont be in the headlines for something or playing for france being noticed on the world stage hoping for a transfer, they need to cut their losses and get a proper spine of a team, Ronaldos wages alone could bring in two absolutely excellent world class much younger much hungrier, less greedy players. Someone in the Van Nisterlrooy, or even Andy Cole mold. Somene like Vlahovic but juve signed him from Fiorentina. couple good centre mids Varane would look like a new signing without having to cover up mcguires mistakes, and Mcginn being given a box to box role, saving them at the back and pushing forward, not sure who id sign to partner him but I honestly think he'd fit in well there if they recruit other players well.

Whether its Man Utd or someone else he is definitely capable of being a starter in his preferred position at one of the top 6 clubs I think. Especially since Madrid might call their boy back from Arsenal after his year extended contract, they sign him and a few others then they couold begin to make back up there, I just want to see him win even an FA cup and get into the Champions League one year. I know hes not a Hibs player anymore but he could have pushed for a move long before now, the guy does have loyalty. Thats also why I could see him accept a new contract from villa if it was under his terms of how he wants to be positioned etc. I mean he didn't even push for a move for St Mirren until Thomson was practicing for the Olympics with the corner flags as Javelins

Odegaard isn't on loan at Arsenal, they signed him.

It's not that McGinn couldn't do a decent job, it's that there are simply better players out there for less than villa would want.

hibsbollah
17-02-2022, 07:37 AM
I think we’re all getting ahead of ourselves with these crazy numbers for McGinn. Let’s remember, football experts as diverse as Peter Lawwell and Tom English didn’t think he was worth £2million.

gbhibby
17-02-2022, 10:38 AM
I think we’re all getting ahead of ourselves with these crazy numbers for McGinn. Let’s remember, football experts as diverse as Peter Lawwell and Tom English didn’t think he was worth £2million.
And he would be a squad player as he wasn't good enough for the first team🤔🤔🤔 They should have listened to Chic Young.

Scouse Hibee
17-02-2022, 01:04 PM
I get what your saying but it could be one for the future if Liverpool go for him Milner is 36, Adrian is 35

Adrian! Does McGinn also play in goal?

Pagan Hibernia
17-02-2022, 01:13 PM
I think we’re all getting ahead of ourselves with these crazy numbers for McGinn. Let’s remember, football experts as diverse as Peter Lawwell and Tom English didn’t think he was worth £2million.

An extra £750k for McGinn (peanuts to Celtic let’s face it) and the Ten was theirs. I have not the slightest doubt about that.

tight erses

StevieHendo
17-02-2022, 01:31 PM
5m from McGinn clause and 3m from Boyle - there should be a decent transfer fund for our summer recruitment.

Highly unlikely, seems be the way. However we need to if we want to push for 3rd every season not just blips here and there.

hibee-boys
17-02-2022, 02:41 PM
As much as I love SJM I just can’t see a club paying what Villa would want for him with 3 years left on his contract. They’d surely only sell this summer if it was a ridiculous amount of money, especially given the sell on clause, fair enough if he was not willing to sign an extension with a year to go. I can’t see a man of John’s character trying the old transfer request line either. I would love to see Hibs financially benefit, and see SJM play for a top 6 English side, but I just can’t see it happening.

Nailsea Hibby
17-02-2022, 05:51 PM
So if McGinn signed for Liverpool cash + player say Milner who would return to Villa would there be the potential that Hibs could lose cash in the deal ? :rolleyes:

GloryGlory
17-02-2022, 05:57 PM
So if McGinn signed for Liverpool cash + player say Milner who would return to Villa would there be the potential that Hibs could lose cash in the deal ? :rolleyes:
a
AFAIK there's some sort of agreed value attached to the makeweight, so Hibs would get the cash + value %age.

loanheadhibby
17-02-2022, 06:51 PM
it’s their loss if they don’t. He’s worth every penny
I think Liverpool will survive without John McGinn

hibsbollah
17-02-2022, 06:52 PM
I think Liverpool will survive without John McGinn


Everything is better with John McGinn.

WeeRussell
17-02-2022, 09:38 PM
Adrian! Does McGinn also play in goal?

Super claw-it-out-top-bin?

HoboHarry
18-02-2022, 01:17 AM
I think Liverpool will survive without John McGinn

They'll survive without Mbappe and Messi too so not sure what your point is?

ZitellZeTime
18-02-2022, 01:25 AM
Odegaard isn't on loan at Arsenal, they signed him.

It's not that McGinn couldn't do a decent job, it's that there are simply better players out there for less than villa would want.

Did you mean to reply to someone else? I didn't mention Odegaard or Arsenal at all. I also know he is with them full time.

Or am I being an idiot and don't know you can reply to two seperate users at same time in one message? I'm used to reddit and other forum style based. Can only reply to one person so could be my bad mate.

MWHIBBIES
18-02-2022, 04:45 AM
Did you mean to reply to someone else? I didn't mention Odegaard or Arsenal at all. I also know he is with them full time.

Or am I being an idiot and don't know you can reply to two seperate users at same time in one message? I'm used to reddit and other forum style based. Can only reply to one person so could be my bad mate.

You did mention real Madrid recalling someone from Arsenal didn't you?

theonlywayisup
18-02-2022, 06:16 AM
I've no information on this either way, but my gut feeling is he may well play out his career at Villa, and any money we will get will be minimum if he leaves much later in his career.

I hope i'm wrong and Man U sign him this summer for £70m. :greengrin

I think that he'll leave at some point in the next couple of years or not at all. If Villa can sell him for £50m and recruit someone for £10m then it would be good business for them. However, where are they going to pick up someone of the quality they need for £10m or even £20m, certainly not in the over-valued English market. So I would be very surprised if Villa let him go for as little as £50m (did I really write that).

When I watch him player for Villa, I'm always impressed by his endeavour and his skill levels. I would much rather have a John McGinn in my team compared to any of the other Villa midfielders in my team, albeit young Ramsey looks a special player too. Villa only need to sell if they've got better options to replace.