Rocky

[john rossi]

Bit of a bomb scare Bashiri just as well Porto played well as his defensive errors could have cost us. We need Hanlon back ASAP

[Mr. Wonderful]

Bit of a bomb scare Bashiri just as well Porto played well as his defensive errors could have cost us. We need Hanlon back ASAP

Big guys probably never played in conditions like those before. Was an absolute rock at motherwell. Give him time

[Itsnoteasy]

Big guys probably never played in conditions like those before. Was an absolute rock at motherwell. Give him time

Neither would Mueller etc etc

[Mr. Wonderful]

Neither would Mueller etc etc

Possibly why he didn't start.

[Hibbyradge]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

[oldbutdim]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

Not really.
It’s a common term for a defender that looks a bit ‘iffy’.

Unless you think ‘iffy’ has some sort of racist connotations?

[Libby Hibby]

Rocky is doing just fine and will only get better playing every week.

I don’t think he’s been at fault for any goals conceded whilst playing for us.

[Hibbyradge]

Not really.
It’s a common term for a defender that looks a bit ‘iffy’.

Unless you think ‘iffy’ has some sort of racist connotations?

Why the arsey comment about "iffy"?

I've noticed "bombscare" being used when the player is black. Calling black players lazy is also quite common.

If you say it's a more general term, then I'll pay attention to see when it's used against white defenders.

[CraigHibee]

I think he's done alright so far, the pitch on Sunday looked stinking

[JamesHFC]

I think he's done alright so far, the pitch on Sunday looked stinking

I agree. I like him, got to remember he’s only 22 years old.

[basehibby]

Rocky's done all right - not exactly a "ball playing" centre half but has other attributes and has been a very decent reinforcement. He did make one dodgy back pass which cost us a free kick in the box but other than that, "bombscare" is a wee bit harsh. Hanlon is an influential player though - bleeds green and has a great range of passing and of course it will be great to get him back in the team.

[Hibbyradge]

I think we've bought a watch with Rocky.

Every player makes mistakes, but Rocky is as reliable and as skillful as most.

And he'll get better.

[500miles]

Why the arsey comment about "iffy"?

I've noticed "bombscare" being used when the player is black. Calling black players lazy is also quite common.

If you say it's a more general term, then I'll pay attention to see when it's used against white defenders.

Given Porto has been called a bombscare all season and Nisbet has been branded lazy, I think implying use of stereotypes as a means of deflecting criticism is poor.

He's made a couple of mistakes, but Rocky seems very much in the McGregor school of defending. I'm a big fan and I think he'll rapidly improve.

[CmoantheHibs]

Think he has had a good positive start for us whilst being not match fit and also playing through a bit of pain. Love his take no **** attitude too. More than happy with his contribution so far.

[Greencore]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.


Gary cadlwell was our biggest bombscare at the back.

[Hibbyradge]

Given Porto has been called a bombscare all season and Nisbet has been branded lazy, I think implying use of stereotypes as a means of deflecting criticism is poor.

He's made a couple of mistakes, but Rocky seems very much in the McGregor school of defending. I'm a big fan and I think he'll rapidly improve.

I agree with your second paragraph as much as I disagree with your first.

Firstly, I wasn't deflecting criticism.

Secondly, Porto gets criticised for mistakes but I don't think I've ever seen him called "bombscare". He's often held up as "proper captain material".

Nisbet has been (wrongly) called lazy, but it's a criticism that's unfairly leveled against black players more than most in my experience.

Both players are real assets to Hibs and should be supported.

[Hibbyradge]

Gary cadlwell was our biggest bombscare at the back.

So much of a bombscare that after he played for us he signed for Celtic then went on to captain Wigan Athletic, winning the FA Cup with them and played 55 times for Scotland? :dunno:

[ajf]

Why the arsey comment about "iffy"?

I've noticed "bombscare" being used when the player is black. Calling black players lazy is also quite common.

If you say it's a more general term, then I'll pay attention to see when it's used against white defenders.

Bert konterman was the first player I ever heard called bombscare and he wasnt black

[ajf]

Gary cadlwell was our biggest bombscare at the back.

Although the term wasnt around then i'd say John Madsen was our biggest

[Greencore]

So much of a bombscare that after he played for us he signed for Celtic then went on to captain Wigan Athletic, winning the FA Cup with them and played 55 times for Scotland? :dunno:

Yep.

[147lothian]

So much of a bombscare that after he played for us he signed for Celtic then went on to captain Wigan Athletic, winning the FA Cup with them and played 55 times for Scotland? :dunno:

Agreed, for some folk, as soon as a goal gets scored against us it's who can we blame, and the lazy old cliches come out

[seanshow]

Rocky has the intimidating presence and strength we've needed at the back for a long time, club captain or not I don't think Paul nessesarily walks straight back in once fit.
3/5/2 perhaps is different.

[heretoday]

Porto is the character of the team and Hibs are weaker without him. It'll be a sad day when he goes.
I'm still unsure about Rocky. He looked a bit slow on Sunday.

[FilipinoHibs]

Strong and good on the ball. Good passer to. David Luiz was a bomb scare and he is Latino

[HoboHarry]

Porto is the character of the team and Hibs are weaker without him. It'll be a sad day when he goes.
I'm still unsure about Rocky. He looked a bit slow on Sunday.

I think I can truthfully say that I was reasonably quick in my playing days. Doesn't mean I didn't slow up when playing on parks that resembled a tattie field.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not really.
It’s a common term for a defender that looks a bit ‘iffy’.

Unless you think ‘iffy’ has some sort of racist connotations?

At no point did ambrose look iffy here. Actually, both him and bamba were by far our best defenders while both here. The tags were ridiculous.

Why was mcgregor never called a bomb scare? Love Big daz but even at his best made far more errors than ambrose did here.

[Stanton Spence]

At no point did ambrose look iffy here. Actually, both him and bamba were by far our best defenders while both here. The tags were ridiculous.

Why was mcgregor never called a bomb scare? Love Big daz but even at his best made far more errors than ambrose did here.I think I can remember efe being a bombacare on at least once during his time at hibs when he played full back up at Pittodrie and he was awful that day for sure
But the term bombacare is in no way a racist slur and often used for defenders from all clubs and colour

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[HoboHarry]

I think I can remember efe being a bombacare on at least once during his time at hibs when he played full back up at Pittodrie and he was awful that day for sure
But the term bombacare is in no way a racist slur and often used for defenders from all clubs and colour

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So one occasion when he was out of position counts towards being a bomb scare? Lol.....

[MWHIBBIES]

I think I can remember efe being a bombacare on at least once during his time at hibs when he played full back up at Pittodrie and he was awful that day for sure
But the term bombacare is in no way a racist slur and often used for defenders from all clubs and colour

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Once in 74 games, I'll take that ratio. Nothing even remotely close to a bomb scare at Hibs. Brilliant player.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I think I can truthfully say that I was reasonably quick in my playing days. Doesn't mean I didn't slow up when playing on parks that resembled a tattie field.

At 6’4 and leaner than a butcher’s dug, I had deceptive pace as a centre back.

I was slower than I looked 🥴

[Since452]

Has anyone retrieved that ball he leathered out the park from Jupiter yet?

[Dashing Bob S]

I’d have Rocky before Paul Hanlon now.

[Jones28]

Has anyone retrieved that ball he leathered out the park from Jupiter yet?

Norway have it and they’re keeping it.

[OldEast]

I’d have Rocky before Paul Hanlon now.

Mm not sure about that. They have different strengths, not the same type of defender at all. I'd like to see them both on the park alongside Porto.

[Dmas]

Mm not sure about that. They have different strengths, not the same type of defender at all. I'd like to see them both on the park alongside Porto.

This is where I am as well, I think we will be pretty strong at the back with Hanlon Porto and Rocky as the 3

[Stokesy's on fire]

Mm not sure about that. They have different strengths, not the same type of defender at all. I'd like to see them both on the park alongside Porto.

agree with this

[Brooster]

I agree with the OP. Bombscare.

[bigwheel]

I agree with the OP. Bombscare.

Ah, another extreme opinion on social media forum - what a surprise ..

The reality is He is neither the finished article or anywhere near a bombscare . He is a young , raw, developing talent ..and we’ve seen the best and the inexperience of him at times so far . that’s the market we are in . I think he is a very useful addition to our team and squad ..

[J-C]

Ah, another extreme opinion on social media forum - what a surprise ..

The reality is He is neither the finished article or anywhere near a bombscare . He is a young , raw, developing talent ..and we’ve seen the best and the inexperience of him at times so far . that’s the market we are in . I think he is a very useful addition to our team and squad ..

I think Clarke was earmarked for the right of the 3 but the option stop the deal at any window means we needed another, Rocky is one to develop and will provide competition. Rocky will make mistakes but Porteous and Hanlon still make them too, if they didn't they wouldn't be here.

[blackpoolhibs]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

Murdock and Nelson too. :wink:

[Walter]

Has anyone retrieved that ball he leathered out the park from Jupiter yet?

I don't know why but I loved it when he did that.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

Spot on. Doig cost us the goal by being caught under the ball at the back post (again) but Rocky is the bombscare. Come off it

[Mr. Wonderful]

At no point did ambrose look iffy here. Actually, both him and bamba were by far our best defenders while both here. The tags were ridiculous.

Why was mcgregor never called a bomb scare? Love Big daz but even at his best made far more errors than ambrose did here.

Paul McGinn has been sent off, gave away penalties etc but he's not a bombscare.

[MikeyS]

I thibk the big man is doing really well so far bit long term I feel it will be Clarke Porto Hanlon as the back 3. From what I've seen, Clarke is a more comfortable footballer and will perform better in the way Maloney wants us to.

[Allant1981]

He is very raw, he doesnt look comfortable with the ball at his feet, his passing isnt the greatest but is doing ok so far, a few heart in the mouth moments but get that with all our defenders

[superfurryhibby]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

My view is that Bushiri has done OK. However, he's best suited to leathering the ball up the park rather than playing passes. He's young and raw, but has the physical attributes for a centre back, but I'm not convinced he's a very good footballer.

If I were you I'd probably be feeling a bit embarrassed about the poor attempt to find racism where there clearly is none, bizarre observation.

[erin go bragh]

Rocky is a rough diamond. Yes he does look like he has a mistake in him but will learn and playing more , he will improve. Murdock was a bombscare as was McGivern

[flash]

I’d have Rocky before Paul Hanlon now.

Ever the troll.

[Since452]

I like Rocky. Would have been a bit of a culture shock for him turning up at Arbroath in those conditions and on that pitch. I think he's doing fine.

[The Modfather]

At no point did ambrose look iffy here. Actually, both him and bamba were by far our best defenders while both here. The tags were ridiculous.

Why was mcgregor never called a bomb scare? Love Big daz but even at his best made far more errors than ambrose did here.

My memory was that Efe started most seasons looking iffy and it took him a couple of games to get up to speed where he was then very good. I remember him looking like someone plucked from the crowd against Asteras at home, as well as an early game against Ross County where he had a stinker and conceded a penalty.

[Since452]

My memory was that Efe started most seasons looking iffy and it took him a couple of games to get up to speed where he was then very good. I remember him looking like someone plucked from the crowd against Asteras at home, as well as an early game against Ross County where he had a stinker and conceded a penalty.

Iffy Ambrose?

[WeeRussell]

Big Efe oozed composure and was really good for us. It surprises me he’s not still playing in a higher league than he is right now. On loan from St Johnstone, I think, who can’t buy a win?!

[hibbyfraelibby]

Bit of a bomb scare Bashiri just as well Porto played well as his defensive errors could have cost us. We need Hanlon back ASAP

If Rocky is a bomb scare I hope he is a mahoosive 10 megaton Hibby H Bomb that scares the living daylights out of the opposition who would be scared of the Mutually Assured Destruction outcome

[OldEast]

Why the arsey comment about "iffy"?

I've noticed "bombscare" being used when the player is black. Calling black players lazy is also quite common.

If you say it's a more general term, then I'll pay attention to see when it's used against white defenders.

I've been thinking about this and can't think of any white footballers described as bombscare. Thinking of our own current players, Wright, Nisbet, Porto, Allan, Scott, McGinn have all at times been less than perfect in possesion and have been called useless, lazy, never a footballer, wage thief, amateur etc but never bombscare. I'm certain there is nothing racist about it but wonder why it should be the case. Like you I stand to be corrected.

[brog]

The reality is He is neither the finished article or anywhere near a bombscare . He is a young , raw, developing talent ..and we’ve seen the best and the inexperience of him at times so far . that’s the market we are in . I think he is a very useful addition to our team and squad ..[/QUOTE]




Pretty much sums him up for me. I never like criticising any of our players but I thought Rocky was our weakest link on Sunday. I wasn't there so don't know if wind caused problems but I was surprised how often he was beaten in the air or misjudged the flight of the ball. He's extremely raw but there's talent there and I love his attitude. If Hanlon, McGinn and Clarke are available then I expect he'll be behind them for a place in the team but credit to Rocky for stepping up in a crisis, he can only develop.

[Bushwoof]

I think he's still a work in progress, and isn't up to the standard of Hanlon at the moment. I don't mind his work on the deck, it's his mistimed heading attempts I worry about.

Has every possibility of developing into a decent defender though. A bit dodgy at times, but definitely not a bombscare.

[SChibs]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

Shane Duffy was relentlessly called a bombscare for Celtic last season?

[Bushwoof]

The reality is He is neither the finished article or anywhere near a bombscare . He is a young , raw, developing talent ..and we’ve seen the best and the inexperience of him at times so far . that’s the market we are in . I think he is a very useful addition to our team and squad ..




Pretty much sums him up for me. I never like criticising any of our players but I thought Rocky was our weakest link on Sunday. I wasn't there so don't know if wind caused problems but I was surprised how often he was beaten in the air or misjudged the flight of the ball. He's extremely raw but there's talent there and I love his attitude. If Hanlon, McGinn and Clarke are available then I expect he'll be behind them for a place in the team but credit to Rocky for stepping up in a crisis, he can only develop.[/QUOTE]

Put it better than I did.

[HIBS NUTS]

Shane Duffy was relentlessly called a bombscare for Celtic last season?

Colin Murdock Hibs, king and champion of bombscares .😁

[Edinburgh Green]

Shane Duffy was relentlessly called a bombscare for Celtic last season?

As is Starfelt this year. Bit strange seeing people try to add a racial angle to it.

[Hibbyradge]

Colin Murdock Hibs, king and champion of bombscares .😁

He was disliked, but the term bombscare was never levelled at him.

However, I'll pay attention in future in case I've misjudged this.

[Groathillgrump]

I think he's done alright so far, the pitch on Sunday looked stinking


I think I can truthfully say that I was reasonably quick in my playing days. Doesn't mean I didn't slow up when playing on parks that resembled a tattie field.


I like Rocky. Would have been a bit of a culture shock for him turning up at Arbroath in those conditions and on that pitch. I think he's doing fine.

I watched the game on TV and thought the pitch looked in good nick considering it was Arbroath in the middle of February.

Kevin Nisbet actually said in his post match interview that "The pitch was in great condition to go and play football." I think I'll take Kevin's word for it. :wink:

[B.H.F.C]

Pretty much sums him up for me. I never like criticising any of our players but I thought Rocky was our weakest link on Sunday. I wasn't there so don't know if wind caused problems but I was surprised how often he was beaten in the air or misjudged the flight of the ball. He's extremely raw but there's talent there and I love his attitude. If Hanlon, McGinn and Clarke are available then I expect he'll be behind them for a place in the team but credit to Rocky for stepping up in a crisis, he can only develop.


I thought Rocky struggled on Sunday. Had a totally different perspective watching with the way the stadium is. Was right down in the area he was playing in the second half and he’s a big laddie when you’re that close but he hardly won a header, it was like his timing was just totally out.

He’s got the attributes to be a good centre half but he’ll need to learn quickly.

[blackpoolhibs]

Rocky has done well for us so far, my main worry about him is the amount of headers he loses, for a big strong man that he is, he does not dominate enough yet.

[oldbutdim]

Why the arsey comment about "iffy"?

I've noticed "bombscare" being used when the player is black. Calling black players lazy is also quite common.

If you say it's a more general term, then I'll pay attention to see when it's used against white defenders.


I wasn't intending anything 'arsey' as you seem to have inferred.
Colin Murdock is my ideal definition of a 'bombscare' and I recollect a certain Celtc defender being tagged that all season on loan ....... Duffy?

I can only speak for myself obviously, if you think that the term is only applied to black players then you're welcome to that opinion.

Hope this isn't 'arsey' in clarifying my comment.

[Unseen work]

I’ve been really impressed with Rocky.

I think it’s very easy to forget that he’s only 22 has hardly kicked a ball in the last 2 years due to covid and a bad knee injury.

A bit raw? Absolutely. But his positives far outweigh any negatives for me. I love how close and tight he gets to his man.

The only slight I would have on him is his timing for headers, sometimes he’s up a bit early which means his header isn’t as good as you’d think it should.

He’s fast, strong, good defensively and can play from the back without being anything flash. In saying that against hearts? He done a lovely bit of skill with his lead when a ball went over the top to the hearts striker, he header it back the way he was running and then turned and ran onto it completely baffling the hearts striker.

Think we look much better defensively overall since he’s came in.

Don’t get me wrong I was nervous when he got booked early on Sunday but he managed out the game brilliantly, it was the same against Motherwell with Van Veen where he completely dominated him.

I’d be looking to make his addition permanent. I’m really excited to see what he’s like with a proper pre season behind him and coming back fully fit. I think at the moment he’s playing through a lot of niggles, his legs are covered in tape most games.

[weecounty hibby]

Pretty much agree with everything said by Unseen Work. I think he has room to improve as a player and hopefully we will see that at Hibs. And for what it's worth Effe Ambrose was never ever a bomb scare and one of the best and most enjoyable players to watch in all my years watching Hibs, loved watching him play

[ian cruise]

I’ve been really impressed with Rocky.

I think it’s very easy to forget that he’s only 22 has hardly kicked a ball in the last 2 years due to covid and a bad knee injury.

A bit raw? Absolutely. But his positives far outweigh any negatives for me. I love how close and tight he gets to his man.

The only slight I would have on him is his timing for headers, sometimes he’s up a bit early which means his header isn’t as good as you’d think it should.

He’s fast, strong, good defensively and can play from the back without being anything flash. In saying that against hearts? He done a lovely bit of skill with his lead when a ball went over the top to the hearts striker, he header it back the way he was running and then turned and ran onto it completely baffling the hearts striker.

Think we look much better defensively overall since he’s came in.

Don’t get me wrong I was nervous when he got booked early on Sunday but he managed out the game brilliantly, it was the same against Motherwell with Van Veen where he completely dominated him.

I’d be looking to make his addition permanent. I’m really excited to see what he’s like with a proper pre season behind him and coming back fully fit. I think at the moment he’s playing through a lot of niggles, his legs are covered in tape most games.

As you say, still raw and missed a couple of years so bit catching up to do development wise but if Daz can coach him how to use his strength and hopefully improve his heading we've a great central defender on our hands.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I wasn't intending anything 'arsey' as you seem to have inferred.
Colin Murdock is my ideal definition of a 'bombscare' and I recollect a certain Celtc defender being tagged that all season on loan ....... Duffy?

I can only speak for myself obviously, if you think that the term is only applied to black players then you're welcome to that opinion.

Hope this isn't 'arsey' in clarifying my comment.

Murdock or no Murdock the last three hibs players to be definitively labelled as bombscares just happen to also be black defenders. Whether that's intentional or unconscious, its racist.

Meanwhile players like Porteous and Doig are just young, rash and inconsistent when they make mistakes.

[Tyler Durden]

Rocky is doing just fine and will only get better playing every week.

I don’t think he’s been at fault for any goals conceded whilst playing for us.

I'm not here to slate the lad but he's been at fault for several goals IMO, mainly through poor positioning.

* Celtic's first goal against us where Campbell/Doig gave the ball away. Bit harsh but Rocky was out of position and couldn't recover.
* Livi's 2nd goal at Easter Road where he failed to win the header from a long throw.
* Morelos goal last week - almost entirely Rocky's fault. Wanders way out of position and Porteous couldn't get over to cover.

He could also have easily cost us the derby with his backpass to Dabrowski.

Again - not slating the boy but I think he's got alot to learn. Hanlon is miles ahead of him at the moment, as is Porto.

[Hector Mudflap]

Im not the greatest fan of Hanlon- reminds me of a "willy pete" phosphorous grenade with the speed of a Very light flare.
Rocky is more of a bombscare. (don't agree about the lazy tag)

I think the firepower upfront is more of an issue.
Nobody wins a war without attacking.
although:

To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack. (Sun Tzu fl)

What were we talking about again?


Was it Macey? Never rated him.

[OldEast]

Im not the greatest fan of Hanlon- reminds me of a "willy pete" phosphorous grenade with the speed of a Very light flare.
Rocky is more of a bombscare. (don't agree about the lazy tag)

I think the firepower upfront is more of an issue.
Nobody wins a war without attacking.
although:

To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. Invincibility lies in the defence; the possibility of victory in the attack. (Sun Tzu fl)

What were we talking about again?


Was it Macey? Never rated him.

Deliciously mad (in a good way) post. Love it.

[CapitalGreen]

Rocky only turned 22 a couple of months ago, he still has a lot of development to come but he already has many of the attributes needed to become a top defender, certainly at SPFL level at least. Hopefully we can make him permanent and tied down to a long term deal.

For comparison, this is where centre backs from teams above us were upon turning 22.

Connor Goldson - English 4th tier
Leon Balogun - German 4th tier
Craig Halkett - Scottish 3rd tier
Carl Starfelt - Swedish 2nd tier

Many would also name McGregor and Jones as 2 of the best centre backs we’ve had this century, both were playing part-time non-league football when they were 22.

[basehibby]

So one occasion when he was out of position counts towards being a bomb scare? Lol.....

Come on get real! Efi was much loved as a Hibs player but his languid style and tendency to play it out from tight situations gave many of us the heebeegeebies on many an occasion. Usually it all worked out but occasionally that sort of risky play didnt come off and that's where the "bombscare" rep originated (and it was well established long before his Hibs days). Its basically the same football fan hyperbole that sees players of all ethnicities tagged as useless huddies one week and heroes the next. Racism does not come into it from what I can see.

[JimBHibees]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

Indeed

[worcesterhibby]

think Rocky looks like he will be great for us. Commanding, and positive, will only get better. The OP needs to have a word with himself.

[EdinMike]

I’ll admit I was worried and almost certain he’d get a second yellow, I reckon it shows some form of composure for him not to gain it. Can see him becoming a fan favourite soon and this thread will be laughed at.

[superfurryhibby]

Murdock or no Murdock the last three hibs players to be definitively labelled as bombscares just happen to also be black defenders. Whether that's intentional or unconscious, its racist.

Meanwhile players like Porteous and Doig are just young, rash and inconsistent when they make mistakes.

I think people who are labelling others as racist because of the term "bombscare" are perhaps the ones who are perhaps conflicted about their own racism, unconscious or intentional?

See that advanced search bit top right, if you type in bombscare it will take you to every thread with the word mentioned in it. I couldnae be ersed trawling through the matchday threads, but I can tell you that so far I've seen the following people labelled as bombscares;

Hearts goalkeeper (from 2020)
Anne Budge (the blond bombscare)
Declan Gallagher
Porto
Juan Martine Munera
The ref v St Coloma (who may well be the ref above)
The Hibs defence in general (no black players involved in the game)
Josh Doig
JMX73 (no idea as to their skin colour, just used to describe their posting style).

Can we stop doing the anti racist movement a huge discredit and save the labelling tripe?

[Smartie]

The bombscare thing followed Efe and Bamba to Hibs from their previous clubs.

At Hibs there was absolutely nothing of the bombscare about either of them, they were absolutely brilliant players for us. Efe maybe got a bit closer to being caught in possession through overplaying a few times but the players around him knew it was worth it to let him play and would cover appropriately meaning it very rarely led to goals against us.

Personally I think it would probably be hard to argue against Ryan Porteous being the closest to an actual bombscare that we've had. We've lost goals through ridiculous bits of play and come close to losing more. Again, you'd argue that you wouldn't want to curb his instincts to play (which have been integral to some of our best football in recent years) but of all the defenders I've seen play for Hibs, he's probably been the one guilty of the most daft incidents that have ended up costing us.

[ahibby]

I watched the game on TV and thought the pitch looked in good nick considering it was Arbroath in the middle of February.

Kevin Nisbet actually said in his post match interview that "The pitch was in great condition to go and play football." I think I'll take Kevin's word for it. :wink:

Ah so he wasn't being sarcastic then. Jasper had a laugh at him saying that.

[greenlex]

I think he is ok. Nothing special. Didn’t win enough in the air for me at the weekend and looks pretty clumsy and awkward at times. He’s no Rolls Royce. I think adequate is about right.

[oldbutdim]

I think people who are labelling others as racist because of the term "bombscare" are perhaps the ones who are perhaps conflicted about their own racism, unconscious or intentional?

See that advanced search bit top right, if you type in bombscare it will take you to every thread with the word mentioned in it. I couldnae be ersed trawling through the matchday threads, but I can tell you that so far I've seen the following people labelled as bombscares;

Hearts goalkeeper (from 2020)
Anne Budge (the blond bombscare)
Declan Gallagher
Porto
Juan Martine Munera
The ref v St Coloma (who may well be the ref above)
The Hibs defence in general (no black players involved in the game)
Josh Doig
JMX73 (no idea as to their skin colour, just used to describe their posting style).

Can we stop doing the anti racist movement a huge discredit and save the labelling tripe?

Interesting.

:aok:

[hibeg]

I remember reading a few weeks ago, before he made his debut, that he had a poor percentage in winning aerial battles.
He has carried that record forward !
I’ve not been overly impressed with him so far but hopefully he will improve

[gbhibby]

https://twitter.com/ArbroathFC/status/1493327278620749826?t=piLlvrUgVFtZKSQnrSgpvw&s=19
Bushiri

[inglisavhibs]

I agree. I like him, got to remember he’s only 22 years old.
He’s been a good signing as we would have been in trouble player wise.That said he has a lot to learn to become a regular first team player. He will improve by playing more games.

[Bushwoof]

Rocky only turned 22 a couple of months ago, he still has a lot of development to come but he already has many of the attributes needed to become a top defender, certainly at SPFL level at least. Hopefully we can make him permanent and tied down to a long term deal.

For comparison, this is where centre backs from teams above us were upon turning 22.

Connor Goldson - English 4th tier
Leon Balogun - German 4th tier
Craig Halkett - Scottish 3rd tier
Carl Starfelt - Swedish 2nd tier

Many would also name McGregor and Jones as 2 of the best centre backs we’ve had this century, both were playing part-time non-league football when they were 22.

To be fair, Starfelt belongs in the Swedish 2nd tier. I'd hope Rocky could do better than that.

[Dmas]

I think people who are labelling others as racist because of the term "bombscare" are perhaps the ones who are perhaps conflicted about their own racism, unconscious or intentional?

See that advanced search bit top right, if you type in bombscare it will take you to every thread with the word mentioned in it. I couldnae be ersed trawling through the matchday threads, but I can tell you that so far I've seen the following people labelled as bombscares;

Hearts goalkeeper (from 2020)
Anne Budge (the blond bombscare)
Declan Gallagher
Porto
Juan Martine Munera
The ref v St Coloma (who may well be the ref above)
The Hibs defence in general (no black players involved in the game)
Josh Doig
JMX73 (no idea as to their skin colour, just used to describe their posting style).

Can we stop doing the anti racist movement a huge discredit and save the labelling tripe?

Well said

[easty]

Anyone trying to make any kind of racist correlation with “bombscare” and our black players needs their head examined.

The player I’d call a bombscare in the current squad would be Macey. He’s tall. So was Bamba…and Murdoch.

I obviously hate tall people…and I’m 6’4”, so a self loather.

[LunasBoots]

Think he's decent enough for this level, not played alongside of game time previously and probably still settling in, keep up the good work Rocky.

[Lendo]

I like the look of him, despite a few dodgy moments. He’s a dead cert for a yellow card on my Bet Builder though.

[Hector Mudflap]

Anyone trying to make any kind of racist correlation with “bombscare” and our black players needs their head examined.

The player I’d call a bombscare in the current squad would be Macey. He’s tall. So was Bamba…and Murdoch.

I obviously hate tall people…and I’m 6’4”, so a self loather.


Well there goes the entire HibsNet board
Admins- can we not do anything to stop tall people posting?

Don't they have their own board with beanstalks and big hat chat etc, they don't need to be on ours?

I'm not heighist before anyone starts moaning (I actually have friends who are tall)

I just think they would be happier on their own board.

(most are bombscares anyway)

[CropleyWasGod]

Not really.
It’s a common term for a defender that looks a bit ‘iffy’.

Unless you think ‘iffy’ has some sort of racist connotations?

Iffy Onuora?

:greengrin

[lord bunberry]

Anyone trying to make any kind of racist correlation with “bombscare” and our black players needs their head examined.

The player I’d call a bombscare in the current squad would be Macey. He’s tall. So was Bamba…and Murdoch.

I obviously hate tall people…and I’m 6’4”, so a self loather.
It’s a bizarre suggestion to make. I typed bombscare into the search bar on the main page and it brings up 3 pages where the term is used, obviously didn’t read every thread but the ones I glanced at called Porteous a bombscare as well as one of the hearts goalkeepers and a referee from Iceland.

[ekhibee]

I’ve been really impressed with Rocky.

I think it’s very easy to forget that he’s only 22 has hardly kicked a ball in the last 2 years due to covid and a bad knee injury.

A bit raw? Absolutely. But his positives far outweigh any negatives for me. I love how close and tight he gets to his man.

The only slight I would have on him is his timing for headers, sometimes he’s up a bit early which means his header isn’t as good as you’d think it should.

He’s fast, strong, good defensively and can play from the back without being anything flash. In saying that against hearts? He done a lovely bit of skill with his lead when a ball went over the top to the hearts striker, he header it back the way he was running and then turned and ran onto it completely baffling the hearts striker.

Think we look much better defensively overall since he’s came in.

Don’t get me wrong I was nervous when he got booked early on Sunday but he managed out the game brilliantly, it was the same against Motherwell with Van Veen where he completely dominated him.

I’d be looking to make his addition permanent. I’m really excited to see what he’s like with a proper pre season behind him and coming back fully fit. I think at the moment he’s playing through a lot of niggles, his legs are covered in tape most games.
This pretty well sums it up for me. I think he'll turn out to be a really good acquisition with some more experience under his belt. Good luck to the guy.

[gaz1875]

Don't forget he was probably signed as a cover centre half to start with, and due to injuries and suspensions he's been thrown into a number of big matches a couple of games a week having had very little training games and probably not match fit chucked into the mix. I think he's done well, and if playing this Saturday will look a bit quicker and stronger having hand almost a full week of light training and coaching.

[oldbutdim]

Iffy Onuora?

:greengrin

Genuinely impressed!

[The Harp Awakes]

Don't forget he was probably signed as a cover centre half to start with, and due to injuries and suspensions he's been thrown into a number of big matches a couple of games a week having had very little training games and probably not match fit chucked into the mix. I think he's done well, and if playing this Saturday will look a bit quicker and stronger having hand almost a full week of light training and coaching.

Good assessment. Scottish football although not technically the best, is fast and furious and I think Rocky has handled it pretty well so far. He is a good player and will improve further with games.

[The 90+2]

Zibbi was the ultimate bombscare. Colin Murdoch after that. Yves no far behind mind and who can forget Simon Brown's bombscare moment at the pink **** tip in the Deano 2-1 game when he just watched the ball go past him into the net thinking it was going wide. (Don't think that game was on TV either).

Rocky looks really composed and confident but you do feel he's got a bombscare moment in him from time to time.

No idea what colour has got to do with it likes.

[The 90+2]

Good assessment. Scottish football although not technically the best, is fast and furious and I think Rocky has handled it pretty well so far. He is a good player and will improve further with games.


On sunday at times I imagined him talking to himself questioning how his career had taken him to Arbroath :greengrin

[GRA]

Get rid! The guy clearly doesn't care about the environment, needlessly hoofing the ball into the north Sea with seconds to go against Arbroath on Sunday!

Not completely convinced thus far. For the most part he's been solid but has the odd moment during games where he looks vulnerable and could/does cost us (long throw in v Livi, dodgy passback v Hearts, etc).

A good back up option who has been thrust into the team due to circumstances. Hopefully a few more games under his belt improves his sharpness.

[blackpoolhibs]

He's still a bit raw, he's done well so far with a couple of hairy moments, but he's come in and instead of us playing Daz, we have been able to play Rocky, who despite my man love of McGregor, is a better option now.

When we have everyone available, we will have a strong squad to pick from, and we will have many players who will want to impress and push those who start onto hopefully better performances.

[CapitalGreen]

Get rid! The guy clearly doesn't care about the environment, needlessly hoofing the ball into the north Sea with seconds to go against Arbroath on Sunday!

Not completely convinced thus far. For the most part he's been solid but has the odd moment during games where he looks vulnerable and could/does cost us (long throw in v Livi, dodgy passback v Hearts, etc).

A good back up option who has been thrust into the team due to circumstances. Hopefully a few more games under his belt improves his sharpness.

Regarding the part in bold, the same could be said about every defender on our books and nearly every defender we’ve had in my lifetime.

[erin go bragh]

I watched the game on TV and thought the pitch looked in good nick considering it was Arbroath in the middle of February.

Kevin Nisbet actually said in his post match interview t "The pitch was in great condition to go and play football." I think I'll take Kevin's word for it. :wink:
Was at the game and yes the pitch was in good nick for this time of year but the side nearest the Sea ( Where Rocky played second half ) was muddy and pretty cut up .

[jacomo]

So much of a bombscare that after he played for us he signed for Celtic then went on to captain Wigan Athletic, winning the FA Cup with them and played 55 times for Scotland? :dunno:


He as good as admitted that he didn’t try as hard when he was at Hibs. He acted as if our club was beneath a man of his talents.

Not disputing that he went on to have a very good career, but precisely none of his best performances were in a Hibs shirt sadly.

I’d happily categorise Gary Caldwell as a bombscare for us.

Re: your point about black players - we absolutely do have to be alert for unconscious bias and negative stereotypes, but I wouldn’t say this is the case here. I like Rocky Bushiri, but he has a couple of ‘oh no’ moments every game… a bit like Ryan in that regard.

[The 90+2]

He as good as admitted that he didn’t try as hard when he was at Hibs. He acted as if our club was beneath a man of his talents.

Not disputing that he went on to have a very good career, but precisely none of his best performances were in a Hibs shirt sadly.

I’d happily categorise Gary Caldwell as a bombscare for us.

Re: your point about black players - we absolutely do have to be alert for unconscious bias and negative stereotypes, but I wouldn’t say this is the case here. I like Rocky Bushiri, but he has a couple of ‘oh no’ moments every game… a bit like Ryan in that regard.


Spot on :agree: He wasn't called captain calamity for nothing either.

[Onceinawhile]

Rocky only turned 22 a couple of months ago, he still has a lot of development to come but he already has many of the attributes needed to become a top defender, certainly at SPFL level at least. Hopefully we can make him permanent and tied down to a long term deal.

For comparison, this is where centre backs from teams above us were upon turning 22.

Connor Goldson - English 4th tier
Leon Balogun - German 4th tier
Craig Halkett - Scottish 3rd tier
Carl Starfelt - Swedish 2nd tier

Many would also name McGregor and Jones as 2 of the best centre backs we’ve had this century, both were playing part-time non-league football when they were 22.

Either it's a coincidence that it was repeated, or you're the gentleman who was on the terrace podcast yesterday...

[CapitalGreen]

Either it's a coincidence that it was repeated, or you're the gentleman who was on the terrace podcast yesterday...

haha repeated verbatim? It wasn’t me and I don’t listen but I will need to now. I’ll be messaging asking for credit next time if my post has been plagiarised 😂

[Onceinawhile]

haha repeated verbatim? It wasn’t me and I don’t listen but I will need to now. I’ll be messaging asking for credit next time if my post has been plagiarised 😂

Not quite verbatim but Connor goldson and one of the others were mentioned about where they were playing age 22. Funnily enough, I'm sure it was the hibs supporting boy who said it.

[CapitalGreen]

Not quite verbatim but Connor goldson and one of the others were mentioned about where they were playing age 22. Funnily enough, I'm sure it was the hibs supporting boy who said it.

Just listened to it and he’s definitely read my post! He mixed up the details about Starfelt and Balogun’s history though.

[ekhibee]

Zibbi was the ultimate bombscare. Colin Murdoch after that. Yves no far behind mind and who can forget Simon Brown's bombscare moment at the pink **** tip in the Deano 2-1 game when he just watched the ball go past him into the net thinking it was going wide. (Don't think that game was on TV either).

Rocky looks really composed and confident but you do feel he's got a bombscare moment in him from time to time.

No idea what colour has got to do with it likes.

IMO Brown was just as bad as the other 2, believe me. I agree with you about Rocky, but there's definitely a good player in there, he's done well so far but can do even better.

[Mike Berry]

I think it's extremely harsh to call him a "bombscare". He's made a couple of errors, sure, but overall I think he's been great. Good tackler, skillful ball player, and knows when to ditch the silky stuff and kick it into the stands. Needs time to settle in and get used to our game but he's class.

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[Gmack7]

He really needs to work on his heading, been a bit iffy so far

[brog]

He as good as admitted that he didn’t try as hard when he was at Hibs. He acted as if our club was beneath a man of his talents.

Not disputing that he went on to have a very good career, but precisely none of his best performances were in a Hibs shirt sadly.

I’d happily categorise Gary Caldwell as a bombscare for us.

Re: your point about black players - we absolutely do have to be alert for unconscious bias and negative stereotypes, but I wouldn’t say this is the case here. I like Rocky Bushiri, but he has a couple of ‘oh no’ moments every game… a bit like Ryan in that regard.

I think you're rewriting history a bit. Caldwell played many fine games for Hibs with the stick out for me the LC semi penalties win over Rangers. He was outstanding. IIRC he was 1st capped when at ER so he must have had some decent games. His performances dipped after the transfer saga, that was badly handled all round.

[Hibbyradge]

I think you're rewriting history a bit. Caldwell played many fine games for Hibs with the stick out for me the LC semi penalties win over Rangers. He was outstanding. IIRC he was 1st capped when at ER so he must have had some decent games. His performances dipped after the transfer saga, that was badly handled all round.

Yeah. There's no chance he got a move to Celtc on the back of consistent poor performances for Hibs.

The fans wouldn't have booed him if they'd been happy he was leaving.

[Speedy]

Bushiri doesn't seem to be able to head the ball.

Very strong though and fairly calm with the ball at his feet, even if not necessarily wanting to drive forward in the way Hanlon/Porteous/Ambrose sometimes did.

[GRA]

Regarding the part in bold, the same could be said about every defender on our books and nearly every defender we’ve had in my lifetime.

Very true but I always feel with Rocky he's capable of making a mistake each game that will lead to a real chance for the opposition to get a goal. Exception was against Motherwell when he was excellent, needs to maintain that consistency.

Bit like Porto. Will be absolutely solid for 9 games but in the 10th game make a rash challenge to get sent off or make a horrendous mistake.

If they can both eradicate those side of their games for the remaining 3 months we'll have a really solid platform to start pushing to get that 4th spot and a cup final.

[BoomtownHibees]

Very true but I always feel with Rocky he's capable of making a mistake each game that will lead to a real chance for the opposition to get a goal. Exception was against Motherwell when he was excellent, needs to maintain that consistency.

Bit like Porto. Will be absolutely solid for 9 games but in the 10th game make a rash challenge to get sent off or make a horrendous mistake.

If they can both eradicate those side of their games for the remaining 3 months we'll have a really solid platform to start pushing to get that 4th spot and a cup final.

He was good v Motherwell but I think in that game he played in the middle of the 3 which maybe allowed him to just concentrate on defending a bit more. Maybe being moved out to the right of the back 3 has affected him with more of a responsibility to pass and get up the park more

[Eyrie]

He was good v Motherwell but I think in that game he played in the middle of the 3 which maybe allowed him to just concentrate on defending a bit more. Maybe being moved out to the right of the back 3 has affected him with more of a responsibility to pass and get up the park more

I'd prefer him in the middle and Porteous on the right, because Porteous is more comfortable on the ball whilst Rocky strikes me as a more old fashioned CH (and that was before his clearance to Denmark on Sunday!)

[Libby Hibby]

I take it Rocky did well yesterday against RCC?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I take it Rocky did well yesterday against RCC?

Hmmm, no major calamities, certainly not going to write him off yet, but have my doubts about him.

[Tambo]

Was hoping he would score when he went on his run in the second half.

[Brightside]

I take it Rocky did well yesterday against RCC?

Defended ok but passing out the box (like Porty) was awful.

[Hibernian Verse]

Looked to me as though he had been given instructions to clear the ball when the percentages were low of a preferable outcome rather than try and play his way out of trouble.

[LewysGot2]

I wondered when " bomb scare" would be used about our black centre back.

Efe, Bamba, Balde at Celtc and now Rocky, all bombscares.

Just a coincidence probably.

Have heard the comparisons with Efe and Bamba from folk at several games this season. Not once has there been a comparison with Murdock, who would be an odd choice of comparator anyway.

Weirdly, Efe and Bamba were two very different players as well. Who knew?

[jacomo]

Have heard the comparisons with Efe and Bamba from folk at several games this season. Not once has there been a comparison with Murdock, who would be an odd choice of comparator anyway.

Weirdly, Efe and Bamba were two very different players as well. Who knew?


We need to be conscious of racism or unconscious bias, but really?

Murdoch was rubbish. Any comparison to him would not be a compliment.

Bamba and Efe both good strong centre backs who enjoyed striding forward into midfield, also prone to switching off at times.

I can see the similarities to Rocky, it’s nothing to do with skin colour. Rocky’s sorties upfield yesterday reminded me of Efe in particular.

[MWHIBBIES]

We need to be conscious of racism or unconscious bias, but really?

Murdoch was rubbish. Any comparison to him would not be a compliment.

Bamba and Efe both good strong centre backs who enjoyed striding forward into midfield, also prone to switching off at times.

I can see the similarities to Rocky, it’s nothing to do with skin colour. Rocky’s sorties upfield yesterday reminded me of Efe in particular.

Why do Efe and Bambas mistakes get pointed out more often, though? Both were far less mistake prone that all other defenders they played with. No one talks about Darren mcgregor being prone to switching off.

Not suggesting it's a race thing at all BTW.

[whiskas]

I like Rocky- strong, athletic and in general knows when to play it out and when to boot it out into the North Sea. Seems to be forging a decent partnership with Porteous. Maybe a bit prone to the occasional lapse in concentration/brain fart but so is Porteous. Hopefully they’ll cover each other’s back when that does happen. Had Charles-Cooke in his back pocket on Saturday

[bigwheel]

Can’t fault Rocky for effort ..but currently don’t see much from him that suggests he will be a regular starter when we have people back. Nowhere near the level of Hanlon . Raw positioning , not that comfortable on the ball, and not that strong in the air. Big physical presence, and willing to put his body in the line - still young, so lots of development perhaps. But lots of work required from him .

Did anyone notice his “foul” on the player attempting to block JDH shot for the first goal …was a great intervention for us .

[B.H.F.C]

Can’t fault Rocky for effort ..but currently don’t see much from him that suggests he will be a regular starter when we have people back. Nowhere near the level of Hanlon . Raw positioning , not that comfortable on the ball, and not that strong in the air. Big physical presence, and willing to put his body in the line - still young, so lots of development perhaps. But lots of work required from him .

Did anyone notice his “foul” on the player attempting to block JDH shot for the first goal …was a great intervention for us .

Malky McKay certainly noticed it and reckoned it gifted a goal. No mention of his goalie fumbling it in to the net right enough.

Thought Rocky was pretty solid yesterday. He’s got the attributes to be a good centre half I think, but he’ll need a bit of work.

[hibbytam]

Can’t fault Rocky for effort ..but currently don’t see much from him that suggests he will be a regular starter when we have people back. Nowhere near the level of Hanlon . Raw positioning , not that comfortable on the ball, and not that strong in the air. Big physical presence, and willing to put his body in the line - still young, so lots of development perhaps. But lots of work required from him .

Did anyone notice his “foul” on the player attempting to block JDH shot for the first goal …was a great intervention for us .

It's the sort of thing that usually goes against us, and people say something about the dark arts or something.
Good to see us doing it for a change.

[Iggy Pope]

We need to be conscious of racism or unconscious bias, but really?

Murdoch was rubbish. Any comparison to him would not be a compliment.

Bamba and Efe both good strong centre backs who enjoyed striding forward into midfield, also prone to switching off at times.

I can see the similarities to Rocky, it’s nothing to do with skin colour. Rocky’s sorties upfield yesterday reminded me of Efe in particular.

Not me. Doesn’t have the feet or footballing brain that Efe has. His sortie into their half 2nd half for example when he run out of ideas could have landed us in bother. He’s a character though.

[Smartie]

I like Rocky- strong, athletic and in general knows when to play it out and when to boot it out into the North Sea. Seems to be forging a decent partnership with Porteous. Maybe a bit prone to the occasional lapse in concentration/brain fart but so is Porteous. Hopefully they’ll cover each other’s back when that does happen. Had Charles-Cooke in his back pocket on Saturday

The Charles-Cooke part in particular is not to be sniffed at. He’s been giving some very good players a very tough time in recent weeks yet he did nothing against us.

[jacomo]

Why do Efe and Bambas mistakes get pointed out more often, though? Both were far less mistake prone that all other defenders they played with. No one talks about Darren mcgregor being prone to switching off.

Not suggesting it's a race thing at all BTW.


I dunno but Porto’s errors were a near weekly topic on here until recently.

Credit to him though, he’s been excellent the past few games.

[jacomo]

Not me. Doesn’t have the feet or footballing brain that Efe has. His sortie into their half 2nd half for example when he run out of ideas could have landed us in bother. He’s a character though.


I’m not saying he’s as good, I’m saying he has similarities - which he does. Probably more so to Sol though.

[jacomo]

The Charles-Cooke part in particular is not to be sniffed at. He’s been giving some very good players a very tough time in recent weeks yet he did nothing against us.


Yeah he switched sides to get away from Rocky but Lewis and Josh gave him little change either.

[Just Alf]

I dunno but Porto’s errors were a near weekly topic on here until recently.

Credit to him though, he’s been excellent the past few games.Porto has improved recently i think.

Rockys a weird one for me, he's good in defence but something I can't quite pin down in my head, he seems to look awkward sometimes playing with the ball at his feet.

[LaMotta]

Why do Efe and Bambas mistakes get pointed out more often, though? Both were far less mistake prone that all other defenders they played with. No one talks about Darren mcgregor being prone to switching off.

Not suggesting it's a race thing at all BTW.

You have a point here I think. Morelos goal at Ibrox recently was a prime example where people looked to blame Rocky when Porto was far more culpable.

[Libby Hibby]

Has Porto improved due to Hanlon being out? Has he ‘stepped up to the plate’ so to speak.

Marked improvement in his game since Paul has been missing.

[jacomo]

Has Porto improved due to Hanlon being out? Has he ‘stepped up to the plate’ so to speak.

Marked improvement in his game since Paul has been missing.


It’s possible. Could just be that the added responsibility has helped him focus.

Whatever the reason, he’s playing really well just now in all aspects of his game, could have had another goal yesterday as well.

[CapitalGreen]

Has Porto improved due to Hanlon being out? Has he ‘stepped up to the plate’ so to speak.

Marked improvement in his game since Paul has been missing.

He was excellent against both Aberdeen and Dun Utd before Hanlon got injured so I’d put it down to our new management rather than Hanlon’s absence.

[Lendo]

Porto has improved recently i think.

Rockys a weird one for me, he's good in defence but something I can't quite pin down in my head, he seems to look awkward sometimes playing with the ball at his feet.

I said a few days back I would be putting him on my Bet Builder as a guaranteed yellow. Think he’s on 3 yellows in 5 starts for us now. Not a great record and will give us a suspension problem soon.

[SideBurns]

I widnae compare Efe to anyone - he was one of a kind, and I loved watching him. Every heart-in-the-mouth moment was worth it for the entertainment (if you think fitba should still be an entertainment). Great character, and a brilliant signing!

[007]

Can’t fault Rocky for effort ..but currently don’t see much from him that suggests he will be a regular starter when we have people back. Nowhere near the level of Hanlon . Raw positioning , not that comfortable on the ball, and not that strong in the air. Big physical presence, and willing to put his body in the line - still young, so lots of development perhaps. But lots of work required from him .

Did anyone notice his “foul” on the player attempting to block JDH shot for the first goal …was a great intervention for us .

Sportscene noticed it and made a point of highlighting it. Funny how when Scott Brown fouled a Hearts player a couple of month back allowing Lewis Ferguson to score they pointed out how great and clever a piece of play it was.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Why do Efe and Bambas mistakes get pointed out more often, though? Both were far less mistake prone that all other defenders they played with. No one talks about Darren mcgregor being prone to switching off.

Not suggesting it's a race thing at all BTW.

Yup.

Efe made next to no mistakes and was absolutely unbelievable for us.

People would have you believe he was a disaster waiting to happen but funnily enough they’d tell you Paul Hanlon very rarely puts a foot wrong.

[hibsbollah]

Malky McKay certainly noticed it and reckoned it gifted a goal. No mention of his goalie fumbling it in to the net right enough.

Thought Rocky was pretty solid yesterday. He’s got the attributes to be a good centre half I think, but he’ll need a bit of work.

I thought Mackay sounded like a petulant erse in the interview, and the presenters bleating about the foul for the first goal as if that meant we were lucky to win. Malky Mackay views on black players should always be treated with caution anyway, the misogynistic racist twat shouldn’t be anywhere near the game.

https://archive.kickitout.org/news/kick-it-out-statement-on-malky-mackay-and-iain-moody/#.YhJhlSXfWEc

[bigwheel]

I thought Mackay sounded like a petulant erse in the interview, and the presenters bleating about the foul for the first goal as if that meant we were lucky to win. Malky Mackay views on black players should always be treated with caution anyway, the misogynistic racist twat shouldn’t be anywhere near the game.

Cmon. Let’s not connect this possibly to racism…..I’ve not heard his interview, but it was a clear foul. The first goal should not have counted.. I’d expect our manager to be making an issue of it, had it been the other way…


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[Scottie]

I thought Mackay sounded like a petulant erse in the interview, and the presenters bleating about the foul for the first goal as if that meant we were lucky to win. Malky Mackay views on black players should always be treated with caution anyway, the misogynistic racist twat shouldn’t be anywhere near the game.
:agree: Once a racist always a racist.

[hibsbollah]

Cmon. Let’s not connect this possibly to racism…..I’ve not heard his interview, but it was a clear foul. The first goal should not have counted.. I’d expect our manager to be making an issue of it, had it been the other way…


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Yeah of course it was a foul. I just don’t want that **** to be on my TV telling me it was.

[Sir David Gray]

Cmon. Let’s not connect this possibly to racism…..I’ve not heard his interview, but it was a clear foul. The first goal should not have counted.. I’d expect our manager to be making an issue of it, had it been the other way…


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Yep he's obviously got a dubious past but I'm really not sure what that's got to do with him complaining about what was a fairly blatant foul in the lead up to our first goal.

It would have been quite odd if he hadn't mentioned it.

[hibsbollah]

Yep he's obviously got a dubious past but I'm really not sure what that's got to do with him complaining about what was a fairly blatant foul in the lead up to our first goal.

It would have been quite odd if he hadn't mentioned it.

I’m complaining because I don’t think someone like him should be allowed in the game. And I think ‘dubious’ is underselling it a bit.

[Malthibby]

I’m complaining because I don’t think someone like him should be allowed in the game. And I think ‘dubious’ is underselling it a bit.

Yup, I do wonder what Ross County's black players think of him but I guess they may not know his history.

[inglisavhibs]

You have a point here I think. Morelos goal at Ibrox recently was a prime example where people looked to blame Rocky when Porto was far more culpable.
Wrong.

[Sir David Gray]

I’m complaining because I don’t think someone like him should be allowed in the game. And I think ‘dubious’ is underselling it a bit.

I think if you had just said the first bit a lot of people would be in agreement with you. It was the link you made between his comments of the incident and racism that I was disagreeing with. As the opposition manager I think he was quite right to highlight the incident as it was a blatant foul and it was a pivotal point in the match - first goals often are.

I'm fairly certain he would have made the same complaint if Lewis Stevenson had committed the same foul yesterday.

[JohnM1875]

Big man was fine today. It'll take time adjusting to Scottish football and I'm sure once he has he'll be a real player for us.

Could do with some work when it comes to heading the ball, but other that that I hope we definitely take up the option to buy. The guy's 22 and will only get better with game time. Seems to be yet another recent good signing.

Him, Porto and Hanlon will make a great back three I reckon.

[truehibernian]

A young Efe, and for that reason, I'm in :greengrin:aok::aok:

He'll have his moments that's for sure, but love his desire and competitive streak. Already looking like he is getting up to speed with the pace of the game up here and he'll only get better once he has a series of games under his belt.

[LaMotta]

Wrong.

What's wrong? Some more words to explain please. If you are suggesting Porteous wasn't to blame for that goal then you need to watch the full clip of it again. The Sportscene pundits pointed that out as well.