Hearts v Hibs on 9th April

[SHODAN]

Is this really not going to be on TV? I find that hard to believe.

[LaMotta]

First 3pm Sat KO for a derby since April 2006.

[hibee1875]

Have TV games for this weekend been announced yet?

[Sir David Gray]

Have TV games for this weekend been announced yet?

Yes St Mirren v Rangers has been selected.

[jgl07]

Is this really not going to be on TV? I find that hard to believe.
The recent Derby matches have been crap to watch, so it’s not that surprising.

Scottish Football on TV is all about OF away matches to pander to the bigots.

[offshorehibby]

One of the last Hibs hearts games not to be on the telly was the 4-4, still canny believe that day.

[zitelli62]

Was last one not on telly the cup replay sure we done well that year but at least robbie got a money spinning replay.

[loanheadhibby]

One of the last Hibs hearts games not to be on the telly was the 4-4, still canny believe that day.
I think they showed Aberdeen v Celtic instead.

[HH81]

So for those of us without a ticket, hearts ppv will make a load of money.

Let's hope 4th games not on tv either then.

[hibbysam]

They’re saying it’s a toss up between Hearts v Hibs or Hearts v Rangers after the split (they only have 1 more TV game at Tynie this season).

I’ll be there anyway, but it’s a shambles. There should be a quota of minimum games at each stadium, not maximum. To think we have a TV deal that regularly has free weeks without games, constantly misses out our top games, and now threatens not to show one of the biggest games of the season is completely unforgivable.

[Iggy Pope]

Am I sensing that folks are finding space to nark about a derby game being played at 3pm on a Saturday and not on the tv?

[bingo70]

I’ve not been to a Tynecastle derby for years, my boy is nipping my head about it so might go to this one.

How hard is it to get tickets for it now? Is it a pain in the arse or one of these ones where everyone who really wants to get a ticket will get one?

We’re both season ticket holders.

[Sir David Gray]

I’ve not been to a Tynecastle derby for years, my boy is nipping my head about it so might go to this one.

How hard is it to get tickets for it now? Is it a pain in the arse or one of these ones where everyone who really wants to get a ticket will get one?

We’re both season ticket holders.

I think if you log on for tickets there's probably about a 30-40 minute window where you'll be able to get tickets no problem.

[bingo70]

I think if you log on for tickets there's probably about a 30-40 minute window where you'll be able to get tickets no problem.

Thanks mate

[JimBHibees]

The recent Derby matches have been crap to watch, so it’s not that surprising.

Scottish Football on TV is all about OF away matches to pander to the bigots.

Disagree think both this season have been good especially the first game which was an excellent match imo

[Hibernia&Alba]

For fans who have to watch on Tramp TV, I bet those cheeky bassas jack up the price of the PPV for the game.

[hibee1875]

Yes St Mirren v Rangers has been selected.

Jeeso sky

[bigwheel]

Will be great to have a saturday 3pm kick off for a derby

[bod]

They’re saying it’s a toss up between Hearts v Hibs or Hearts v Rangers after the split (they only have 1 more TV game at Tynie this season).

I’ll be there anyway, but it’s a shambles. There should be a quota of minimum games at each stadium, not maximum. To think we have a TV deal that regularly has free weeks without games, constantly misses out our top games, and now threatens not to show one of the biggest games of the season is completely unforgivable.

I disagree ,the less games that get moved from 3pm Saturdays the better.
In fact I’d lessen the maximum of games your allowed ,it might even it out

[SHODAN]

One of the last Hibs hearts games not to be on the telly was the 4-4, still canny believe that day.

Both cup replays at ER were blocked from TV by the Champion$$$ League.

[The 90+2]

One of the last Hibs hearts games not to be on the telly was the 4-4, still canny believe that day.


The last league game I believe was the Benji winner in 2006, the 2-0 unbeatable game wasn't on the tv either I don't think.

[hibbysam]

I disagree ,the less games that get moved from 3pm Saturdays the better.
In fact I’d lessen the maximum of games your allowed ,it might even it out

Which then lessens the TV revenues, which then lessens the sponsorships to the club/league.

It’s wishful thinking. I’d love every game to be Sat 3pm but that’s long gone now. We ain’t getting that back. We have to maximise the revenues into our game if we want to progress and compete.

[hibbysam]

Am I sensing that folks are finding space to nark about a derby game being played at 3pm on a Saturday and not on the tv?

As mentioned above, Saturday 3pm is fine, but not if we want to progress and expand our revenues. We complain about ticket prices, the only way to lower ticket prices is to grow our revenues, the only way to grow our revenues is to get more games on tele which brings in more money from tv companies and that then brings in sponsorship deals as boards etc can be viewed by millions on TV. This then allows us to buy better players, go further in Europe and keep expanding.

The games sell out regardless if it’s Saturday 3pm or Sunday at 12pm, it doesn’t impact our crowds.

[Not In The Know]

Is this really not going to be on TV? I find that hard to believe.

It’s a joke TBH. How we supposed to grow the game in this country if Sky don’t show the biggest game outside an OF derby.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It’s a joke TBH. How we supposed to grow the game in this country if Sky don’t show the biggest game outside an OF derby.

I think they’ve used up their quota of games at Tiny. Poor reason but it’s the contract. You’d think someone in the office at Sky will be getting their arse kicked for miscounting.

[hibbysam]

I think they’ve used up their quota of games at Tiny. Poor reason but it’s the contract. You’d think someone in the office at Sky will be getting their arse kicked for miscounting.

They’ve not, they’ve had 4 and have 1 game left. They’re holding the 1 game in case rangers at Tynie is important post split.

[Danderhall Hibs]

They’ve not, they’ve had 4 and have 1 game left. They’re holding the 1 game in case rangers at Tynie is important post split.

Yeah but normally they’d have only used 3 by now - someone at Sky’s miscalculated the games earlier in the season.

[hibbysam]

Yeah but normally they’d have only used 3 by now - someone at Sky’s miscalculated the games earlier in the season.

Not sure how it’s been previously, although I’m sure this year it’s been increased from 4 to 5 games at each ground… could be wrong but sure I read this. It’s rotten whichever way though, Doncaster’s head should be on the line but the clubs are happy underselling our game it seems.

[Edinburgh Green]

For fans who have to watch on Tramp TV, I bet those cheeky bassas jack up the price of the PPV for the game.

Get yourself an IPTV provider.

[Billy Whizz]

Not sure how it’s been previously, although I’m sure this year it’s been increased from 4 to 5 games at each ground… could be wrong but sure I read this. It’s rotten whichever way though, Doncaster’s head should be on the line but the clubs are happy underselling our game it seems.

I thought it was the other way round, more TV money, less live games on Sky?

[Carheenlea]

The recent Derby matches have been crap to watch, so it’s not that surprising.

Scottish Football on TV is all about OF away matches to pander to the bigots.

I though both Edinburgh derbies this season have been very good games, despite both being goalless.

[hibbyfraelibby]

To be honest I couldn't care less. I refuse to subscribe to Sky

[JimBHibees]

The last league game I believe was the Benji winner in 2006, the 2-0 unbeatable game wasn't on the tv either I don't think.

There was one Deek scored a beauty at ER at ff end ended 2-2 with them getting a late goal

[JimBHibees]

I though both Edinburgh derbies this season have been very good games, despite both being goalless.

Agree the one at Tynecastle was excellent in particular

[lord bunberry]

I wish sky wouldn’t televise any derbies, 3pm on a Saturday will be like going back to the good old days. Few bevvies in Leith then onto the number 1 bus to Gorgie(if it still goes there). They should put us in the Gorgie Road end for old times sake.

[davhibby]

I thought it was the other way round, more TV money, less live games on Sky?

It is, since sky aren’t even going to use the full quota there will be over 20 less games on TV this season than during the old deal. In the old deal everyone outside the old firm had 6 home games that could be shown, Rangers and Celtic could have 4 each. In the new deal everyone can be shown 5 times at home.

[hibbysam]

I thought it was the other way round, more TV money, less live games on Sky?

No idea what the previous deal was. This one is 48 games but I’m sure they failed to show the full quota previously. For a league our size and the money quoted, less games isn’t better commercially. To attract sponsors we need exposure and we aren’t getting that. We need to market our game properly, ensuring we maximise its potential.

[LewysGot2]

So for those of us without a ticket, hearts ppv will make a load of money.

Let's hope 4th games not on tv either then.

Firstly, let's hope there is one and, secondly, hope it's not on TV.

Tynecastle is the game lots of fans who don't often go to away matches seem to prize above all others. Certainly since the middle of the last decade. Tickets will go quickly.
Unless someone is a hospitality season ticket person, an AST holder or a player's mate, you'll need to be quick off the mark.
Always a fair few non-ST holders at the game - so STHs must buy for their pals or sell them on.

The 2016 SC game was the best atmosphere in recent times at the Pink Bus Shelter - the SJM song at the end of the game went round my head like an ear worm for over a week


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DEGezXTv--E

[Iggy Pope]

As mentioned above, Saturday 3pm is fine, but not if we want to progress and expand our revenues. We complain about ticket prices, the only way to lower ticket prices is to grow our revenues, the only way to grow our revenues is to get more games on tele which brings in more money from tv companies and that then brings in sponsorship deals as boards etc can be viewed by millions on TV. This then allows us to buy better players, go further in Europe and keep expanding.

The games sell out regardless if it’s Saturday 3pm or Sunday at 12pm, it doesn’t impact our crowds.

Not much of any of that will impact Hibs in this instance.

Sellouts also grow revenue, interest and prestige.
Games not on the telly attract bigger attendances. Bigger attendances is what all of us want, not folk sitting in the house watching on a ‘stick’ (yes, there really are people that do this and shout about it).
I don’t complain about ticket prices or ST prices and really, not too many do.
There are more ways than TV to bring in revenue. Hospitality is one of them. Better a Saturday afternoon than a Tuesday night right?
3pm Saturday for a game v them is fine in my book.

[Eyrie]

It is, since sky aren’t even going to use the full quota there will be over 20 less games on TV this season than during the old deal. In the old deal everyone outside the old firm had 6 home games that could be shown, Rangers and Celtic could have 4 each. In the new deal everyone can be shown 5 times at home.

So if Sky continue to obsessively show the Ugly Sisters away matches, that means that four of our home games and four of theirs are already taken, which means that Sky can only show one derby from Easter Road and one from the PBS.

Similar situation with the Dundee derby with one or possibly two games being overlooked.

Crazy.

Just another reason to hate the Ugly Sisters and Sky.

[noz]

So for those of us without a ticket, hearts ppv will make a load of money.

Let's hope 4th games not on tv either then.

hesgoals usually works a treat. Hearts PPV will be a last resort 😉

[davhibby]

So if Sky continue to obsessively show the Ugly Sisters away matches, that means that four of our home games and four of theirs are already taken, which means that Sky can only show one derby from Easter Road and one from the PBS.

Similar situation with the Dundee derby with one or possibly two games being overlooked.

Crazy.

Just another reason to hate the Ugly Sisters and Sky.

That’s why the Celtic game at ER earlier in the season wasn’t on TV. They’ve just made a mess of the Hearts games and not missed one of the Celtic/Rangers games pre split.

[hibbysam]

Not much of any of that will impact Hibs in this instance.

Sellouts also grow revenue, interest and prestige.
Games not on the telly attract bigger attendances. Bigger attendances is what all of us want, not folk sitting in the house watching on a ‘stick’ (yes, there really are people that do this and shout about it).
I don’t complain about ticket prices or ST prices and really, not too many do.
There are more ways than TV to bring in revenue. Hospitality is one of them. Better a Saturday afternoon than a Tuesday night right?
3pm Saturday for a game v them is fine in my book.

The Edinburgh derby sells out regardless. Just because it doesn’t impact Hibs this time doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be arsed about it. Hospitality also sells out for the Edinburgh derby. So none of that matters. What does matter is global audiences seeing our game meaning companies are far more likely to put their hand in their pocket to advertise their business.

The more money then allows us to lower prices for other games, or to afford higher quality player to do better in Europe and win more games, meaning more people come to watch.

A domino effect if you like. Our biggest games should be shown live on TV at every opportunity.

[DavieRoy]

So if Sky continue to obsessively show the Ugly Sisters away matches, that means that four of our home games and four of theirs are already taken, which means that Sky can only show one derby from Easter Road and one from the PBS.

Similar situation with the Dundee derby with one or possibly two games being overlooked.

Crazy.

Just another reason to hate the Ugly Sisters and Sky.

If the clubs only permit 4 games at each ground (5 this season due to Sky allowing clubs to stream non-live games as per the Evening News article), then maybe the clubs/SPFL have to look at what they are selling.

The clubs wanted less games overall and less home games on TV and got more money in this deal. It is a balance. The article says it will go back to 4 games at each ground next season, so that means probably only 1 or 2 Edinburgh Derbies will be on TV.

Sky didn’t take Hibernian v Celtic in October, so that should mean they made sure they kept it for the last Derby at Easter Road. The 5th pick, so it works both ways. We just need to get into the top six!!

[DH1875]

For those who don't care, take it you somehow think your guaranteed a ticket. This will sell out quick time and bet a few of you will change your mibd then.

[Phil MaGlass]

Get yourself an IPTV provider.

This

[Phil MaGlass]

So if I have this right the game wont be changed for tv, so I can book flights?

[hibbysam]

So if I have this right the game wont be changed for tv, so I can book flights?

No guarantee. Would imagine it’ll be a late decision depending whether Rangers could be in a title race post split or not.

[Iggy Pope]

The Edinburgh derby sells out regardless. Just because it doesn’t impact Hibs this time doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be arsed about it. Hospitality also sells out for the Edinburgh derby. So none of that matters. What does matter is global audiences seeing our game meaning companies are far more likely to put their hand in their pocket to advertise their business.

The more money then allows us to lower prices for other games, or to afford higher quality player to do better in Europe and win more games, meaning more people come to watch.

A domino effect if you like. Our biggest games should be shown live on TV at every opportunity.

Like all of this stuff that matters actually happened during all these televised years of derbies do you mean? :wink:

[Iggy Pope]

For those who don't care, take it you somehow think your guaranteed a ticket. This will sell out quick time and bet a few of you will change your mibd then.

Anybody that thinks that hasn’t been paying enough attention past 5 seasons minimum.

[davhibby]

No guarantee. Would imagine it’ll be a late decision depending whether Rangers could be in a title race post split or not.

They’ll have already picked their games from other leagues by now so I doubt they’d bother going to the effort of trying to fit us in somewhere when the police would want to have a say in the time as well.

They made their decision a month ago and they’d rather show the Rangers game post split, that’s not going to change.

[lord bunberry]

For those who don't care, take it you somehow think your guaranteed a ticket. This will sell out quick time and bet a few of you will change your mibd then.
I’ve never not got one.

[hibbyfraelibby]

The Edinburgh derby sells out regardless. Just because it doesn’t impact Hibs this time doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be arsed about it. Hospitality also sells out for the Edinburgh derby. So none of that matters. What does matter is global audiences seeing our game meaning companies are far more likely to put their hand in their pocket to advertise their business.

The more money then allows us to lower prices for other games, or to afford higher quality player to do better in Europe and win more games, meaning more people come to watch.

A domino effect if you like. Our biggest games should be shown live on TV at every opportunity.

Sky don't have the international rights just the UK ones. The SPFL have their own deals world wide

[BS44]

Game is a month away now, when are we likely to find out if it is Saturday or Sunday?

[Sir David Gray]

Game is a month away now, when are we likely to find out if it is Saturday or Sunday?

It will be on the Saturday - Sky have already picked their game for that weekend so there's no other reason for the game to be moved.

[Glory Lurker]

3 pm on a Saturday. The ticket site is going to fall to bits. I'll be okay though thanks to the pre-order code on my Cove ticket.

[Kojock]

AST holders got an email today giving the date as the 9th April. Money to be taken from accounts this coming Monday so tickets might be on sale later next week.

[BS44]

It will be on the Saturday - Sky have already picked their game for that weekend so there's no other reason for the game to be moved.


AST holders got an email today giving the date as the 9th April. Money to be taken from accounts this coming Monday so tickets might be on sale later next week.

Excellent! Wasn't sure what was happening after reading this a few weeks ago

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/historic-edinburgh-derby-rests-on-key-sky-sports-decision-involving-hearts-hibs-and-rangers-at-tynecastle-3557868

[hibbysam]

Excellent! Wasn't sure what was happening after reading this a few weeks ago

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/historic-edinburgh-derby-rests-on-key-sky-sports-decision-involving-hearts-hibs-and-rangers-at-tynecastle-3557868

I reckon it may still change. All depends on whether rangers might be in a title race or not - so next couple of games might be crucial to that.

[Hermit Crab]

I reckon it may still change. All depends on whether rangers might be in a title race or not - so next couple of games might be crucial to that.


Too late now, tickets going on sale is imminent and fans will have long made plans for that weekend. Having said that this is Scottish football. :rolleyes:

[hibbysam]

Too late now, tickets going on sale is imminent and fans will have long made plans for that weekend. Having said that this is Scottish football. :rolleyes:

Yeah when have fans ever been considered during upheaval in our game 😂

[lyonhibs]

This is the one that's not on telly for the first time more or less this millennium right?

Drat, a derby is one of my few remaining cast iron excuses to escape to the pub for a couple of hours

[Hermit Crab]

Yeah when have fans ever been considered during upheaval in our game 😂


I personally can't see it getting moved now. Hospitality etc long sold out etc. Would cause chaos.