Nisbet

[Spike Mandela]

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Yes, like every other player he is worthy of criticism from time to time but I think we are lucky to have a player of his quality.

Fabulous and important goal today.

[hibeg]

Agree, some lovely touches and link up play today. Took his goal superbly

[HH81]

Excellent goal.

Overall 5/10. No getting away from fact for long spells I thought we was average at best.

[weecounty hibby]

Played well I thought. Great goal and could have had at least one other. Worked hard again as he has in the last few games.

[Zambernardi1875]

No idea why he didn’t have a shot 5mins later when clear through. Needs to be more selfish

[gaz1875]

Fantastic goal which makes it all the more frustrating with some of the chances he's missed. Hopefully that will give him a big confidence boost. Wished he had shot with the great chance straight after the goal instead of trying to pass.

[Unseen work]

Nisbet gets quite a bit of stick at times but I think that finish is part of the reason why.

That touch and finish was absolutely brilliant, people know he’s capable of it and he needs to do it more often. It’s because the high standards he set that people critique him more.

In fairness I’ve seen a huge improvement in him since Maloney came in and think the style gets the best out of him.

[B.H.F.C]

I thought his goal was brilliant but he was generally really poor.

Needs to start scoring regularly now.

[Allant1981]

Finish was really good, cant deny that but an "international" should have had a part time championship player in his back pocket and he didnt

[Smartie]

I thought he was terrible throughout, however…

His goal was excellent, and when a striker scores a goal like that, you’ll turn a blind eye to other stuff. He’s been justifiably criticised for dropping deep and then not getting into the box to get on the end of chances. Today his all round play was poorer but he was in the right place at the right time and clinical when he got there.

Any striker who scores a significant goal should consider it a decent day’s work. And hopefully he’ll think about hitting a few more shots with power rather than placing them, as he’s got a decent strike on him.

[Hibiza]

Great goal Kevin ,Sur , stick in and keep it going .👍

[OldEast]

Fantastic goal which makes it all the more frustrating with some of the chances he's missed. Hopefully that will give him a big confidence boost. Wished he had shot with the great chance straight after the goal instead of trying to pass.

All we ever hear now is people saying he's low on confidence. You would have thought just a few minutes later when he chose not to shoot his confidence would be sky high. I don't buy it. Not saying for a second he's not a decent player but neither him nor Doidge are going to give us the goals we need to kick on. Thankfully the signs are good from the new players. Mitchell, Jasper, Henderson, Mueller, hopefully Melkerson all have scoring ability.

[Stevie Reid]

Brilliant goal, delighted for him. Really good second effort from the keeper’s initial save in the first half too.

[WeeRussell]

Poor first half, good second half. Class goal.

[Alfred E Newman]

All we ever hear now is people saying he's low on confidence. You would have thought just a few minutes later when he chose not to shoot his confidence would be sky high. I don't buy it. Not saying for a second he's not a decent player but neither him nor Doidge are going to give us the goals we need to kick on. Thankfully the signs are good from the new players. Mitchell, Jasper, Henderson, Mueller, hopefully Melkerson all have scoring ability.

Deary me, you are even rating a player you have never seen in a Hibs shirt before Nisbet ?

[ancient hibee]

All we ever hear now is people saying he's low on confidence. You would have thought just a few minutes later when he chose not to shoot his confidence would be sky high. I don't buy it. Not saying for a second he's not a decent player but neither him nor Doidge are going to give us the goals we need to kick on. Thankfully the signs are good from the new players. Mitchell, Jasper, Henderson, Mueller, hopefully Melkerson all have scoring ability.

What a load of guff. None of the players you quote have anything like the career scoring records of Nisbet and Doidge.

[OldEast]

Deary me, you are even rating a player you have never seen in a Hibs shirt before Nisbet ?

You need to read the post again, that's why I said "hopefully"

[JohnM1875]

Absolutely chuffed for him that he scored today. Good goal as well!

If we have any hope of finishing fourth this season we need Nisbet firing.

[OldEast]

What a load of guff. None of the players you quote have anything like the career scoring records of Nisbet and Doidge.

And you need to read the post again too. Not talking about their previous records but the form they are in now and if they will continue to contribute enough goals to help us kick on

[A Hi-Bee]

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Yes, like every other player he is worthy of criticism from time to time but I think we are lucky to have a player of his quality.

Fabulous and important goal today.

:top marksWell said, some on this forum just don't know what they are talking about.

[Since452]

Pleased for him. Two class finishes today albeit only one counted.

[Sioux]

Brilliant goal, delighted for him. Really good second effort from the keeper’s initial save in the first half too.

He was lucky top get a second bite at it, after passing to the keeper's knees!

[Davy Mac]

Yip, great finish and didnt over think it, first touch, bang.

In my opinion, he looks like he needs to stop thinking he should be playing at a higer level/hard done by and just try and deliver now and stay in the moment, and then he will get his move.

Keep it going Kevin!

[Crunchie]

:top marksWell said, some on this forum just don't know what they are talking about.
He's been out of form that's for sure but you're right, some of the comments on the match day thread are embarrassing, especially from his hater in chief.

Hopefully he kicks on and starts taking some of the many chances he seems to get in a game, I can't for the life of me see why he tried to lay it back when he's one on one with the keeper :confused: he should have buried that imo.

After a shaky start he had a good game though and kudos to the boy for that finish.

[A Hi-Bee]

He's been out of form that's for sure but you're right, some of the comments on the match day thread are embarrassing, especially from his hater in chief.

Hopefully he kicks on and starts taking some of the many chances he seems to get in a game, I can't for the life of me see why he tried to lay it back when he's one on one with the keeper :confused: he should have buried that imo.

After a shaky start he had a good game though and kudos to the boy for that finish.

Think he tried to lay it on a plate for Mueller, i like that he is always in the right spot, don't give up and keeps going, perseveres eh!

[PeeJay]

Good goal, decent finish, but he needs to do it more regularly in the top flight ...

[Baader]

Was an excellent finish. Really well taken. Hoping him and the team have turned a corner today. Thought we handled the game really well.

[HendoDelivered]

Hopefully the floodgates open now

[Crunchie]

Think he tried to lay it on a plate for Mueller, i like that he is always in the right spot, don't give up and keeps going, perseveres eh!
I get that but it's not as if it was an easy lay off and a tap in, I want him to be ruthless in those positions.

I'm not complaining though, we won and he scored a cracker, onwards and upwards for him hopefully.

[brog]

Can't believe some of the critical comments on here about Nisbet. Yes he made some mistakes, every player does, but he did some excellent things also. He was always looking for the ball and some of his 1st touches and link up were sublime. At the end of the day strikers are mainly judged on goals and surely no one can argue about the quality of his finish. IMO Nisbet is the only current Hibs player who could have scored that goal, we really need him at his best.

[Crunchie]

Can't believe some of the critical comments on here about Nisbet. Yes he made some mistakes, every player does, but he did some excellent things also. He was always looking for the ball and some of his 1st touches and link up were sublime. At the end of the day strikers are mainly judged on goals and surely no one can argue about the quality of his finish. IMO Nisbet is the only current Hibs player who could have scored that goal, we really need him at his best.
If you think they're bad get a read of the match day thread, cringeworthy stuff, it's almost as if some want him to fail.

[Onion]

Top quality finish which shows what he's capable of.

Sadly, it was in sharp contrast to his overall performance which was dire, If he scored goals like that most weeks, he'd be worthy of a place but his overall game and effect has been below average for months.

[WeeRussell]

Top quality finish which shows what he's capable of.

Sadly, it was in sharp contrast to his overall performance which was dire, If he scored goals like that most weeks, he'd be worthy of a place but his overall game and effect has been below average for months.

It wasn’t dire at all. He was having a good game when the goal came (despite all the Naesbets efforts to tell us otherwise) and I wasn’t in the least bit surprised it was him that scored.

[Stevie Reid]

All we ever hear now is people saying he's low on confidence. You would have thought just a few minutes later when he chose not to shoot his confidence would be sky high. I don't buy it. Not saying for a second he's not a decent player but neither him nor Doidge are going to give us the goals we need to kick on. Thankfully the signs are good from the new players. Mitchell, Jasper, Henderson, Mueller, hopefully Melkerson all have scoring ability.

Nisbet and Doidge scored 32 goals between them last year to take us to 3rd and a cup final. Kevin has 19 SPL goals in 52 starts, Doidge has 21 goals in 58 starts in the league. Kevin has 4 in 7 in the Scottish Cup, Doidge 10 in 11.

Nisbet has been here for 18 months, Doidge - due to a truncated first season and his bad injury - has had the equivalent of about two seasons of playing time. They have 61 Hibs goals between them - and a combined career total of 197.

Any non-OF manager in this league would be delighted to have them, and be happy to coach them.

[HH81]

It wasn’t dire at all. He was having a good game when the goal came (despite all the Naesbets efforts to tell us otherwise) and I wasn’t in the least bit surprised it was him that scored.

He wasn't having a good game at all. Missed 3 decent chances, giving the ball away on several occasions and was making stupid fouls.

Pretty much standard for a lot of his performances over a number of months. I hope his goal kicks him on but I said that about his last one and it never so we shall see.

[ahibby]

He showed confidence, determination and ruthlessness for his goal. Against a part time player for his goal though. One swallow doesnt make a summer. We need that more often and against top opposition. We took on a decent Championship player in Nisbet but he has to show he is a decent Premier league striker.

[SHODAN]

Clearly frustrated/lacking in confidence, not disinterested as some speculated earlier this season.

However, having no real competition for his position isn't helping. He's only an automatic starter because Melkersen for whatever reason isn't ready and James Scott.

[judas]

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Yes, like every other player he is worthy of criticism from time to time but I think we are lucky to have a player of his quality.

Fabulous and important goal today.

There is zero doubt that Nisbet has the talent.

But he tends to over elaborate and look for the perfect goal.

If Maloney can coach him to be a bit more direct and ruthless (as he was with his goal), we will have a prolific scorer and £3-4m asset once more.

[brog]

He wasn't having a good game at all. Missed 3 decent chances, giving the ball away on several occasions and was making stupid fouls.

Pretty much standard for a lot of his performances over a number of months. I hope his goal kicks him on but I said that about his last one and it never so we shall see.

He had 1 decent chance in the 1st half which he pretty much created himself and he showed great skill and vision from the rebound. He was chasing down everything and mistimed a couple of tackles. If he hadn't then people would be on here telling us he's lazy with a bad attitude. We really need to cut him some slack and get behind him and every Hibs player.

[blackpoolhibs]

He was awful, has been awful for a long time. He looks a very average player, and a goal against a part time team does not change that.

[B.H.F.C]

It wasn’t dire at all. He was having a good game when the goal came (despite all the Naesbets efforts to tell us otherwise) and I wasn’t in the least bit surprised it was him that scored.

He was terrible. Bad touch, offside and fouling.

Brilliant goal and if he starts doing that more often, we’ll all be a bit happier.

[LunasBoots]

Hopefully can kick on after his goal today, should have scored a couple other chances. Keep going Kevin, it will come.

[Mikey_1875]

Unfortunately I also thought he was poor with the exception of the goal today but the work rate was there at least. If I can remember he had a chance about 5 mins after his goal where he should have took it early but instead dwelt on the ball the didn’t make the most of it.

Hopefully the goal today will turn his fortunes.

[WeeRussell]

He was terrible. Bad touch, offside and fouling.

Brilliant goal and if he starts doing that more often, we’ll all be a bit happier.

First half he was poor, yes. He came onto a game in the second half and looked lively and and dangerous, then scored.

I’m fully aware quite a few people won’t accept that though. He’ll need to score 5 games on the trot before some concede some of his other good play.

[WeeRussell]

He was awful, has been awful for a long time. He looks a very average player, and a goal against a part time team does not change that.

Shock. Think we’re just waiting on that clown from still game to complete the set now 😁

[B.H.F.C]

First half he was poor, yes. He came onto a game in the second half and looked lively and and dangerous, then scored.

I’m fully aware quite a few people won’t accept that though. He’ll need to score 5 games on the trot before some concede some of his other good play.

Not at all. I just didn’t think he was good. Kept running offside in the second half unnecessarily. Wasted the ball loads. His good play has been widely acknowledged, his goal. Other than that, he was poor and he needs to be better.

[Winston Ingram]

Took his goal well but was poor other than that.

[Coco Bryce]

Not at all. I just didn’t think he was good. Kept running offside in the second half unnecessarily. Wasted the ball loads. His good play has been widely acknowledged, his goal. Other than that, he was poor and he needs to be better.

I think a couple of the passes he was offside where too slow being released for him to be honest.

[hibbysam]

He was terrible. Bad touch, offside and fouling.

Brilliant goal and if he starts doing that more often, we’ll all be a bit happier.

He scored a perfectly good goal in the second half that was flagged offside. If you think he was terrible I’m a bit bemused. He was a huge part of us dominating the whole game. Coming in, linking up, creating chances and scoring.

[brog]

I think a couple of the passes he was offside where too slow being released for him to be honest.

And one he was probably onside.

[Zambernardi1875]

Still in think colin nish was better, and I thought nish was murder at the time

[Liam978]

Can't believe some of the critical comments on here about Nisbet. Yes he made some mistakes, every player does, but he did some excellent things also. He was always looking for the ball and some of his 1st touches and link up were sublime. At the end of the day strikers are mainly judged on goals and surely no one can argue about the quality of his finish. IMO Nisbet is the only current Hibs player who could have scored that goal, we really need him at his best.

Spot on as almost always Brian, one of the most sense talkers GG2TH.

[brog]

He was awful, has been awful for a long time. He looks a very average player, and a goal against a part time team does not change that.

He's scored excellent goals in Glasgow against the OF. By your logic above G does that make him a good player?

[Stokesy's on fire]

I thought he was just trying to be bit flash today but overall he got the job done and stuck one away. Better from him

[B.H.F.C]

He scored a perfectly good goal in the second half that was flagged offside. If you think he was terrible I’m a bit bemused. He was a huge part of us dominating the whole game. Coming in, linking up, creating chances and scoring.

No had the benefit of any replays, so fair play on that. From where I was standing I didn’t think he played well and things kept breaking down in that final third. Until his goal.

[WeeRussell]

He scored a perfectly good goal in the second half that was flagged offside. If you think he was terrible I’m a bit bemused. He was a huge part of us dominating the whole game. Coming in, linking up, creating chances and scoring.

I actually thought the two offsides were correct at the time. But I agree with the rest of your post. Although I didn’t think he was on it in the first half.

[hibbysam]

I actually thought the two offsides were correct at the time. But I agree with the rest of your post. Although I didn’t think he was on it in the first half.

Real time it seemed the same, still replay he looked on. First one wasn’t his fault, striker can only hold his run for so long, Henderson had 3 opportunities to release it and held onto it too long.

[blackpoolhibs]

He's scored excellent goals in Glasgow against the OF. By your logic above G does that make him a good player?

He can be a wonderful player, i have said that many many times, but the current version is poor, has been poor for way too long, especially someone who has scored goals in Glasgow as you say.

[WeeRussell]

Real time it seemed the same, still replay he looked on. First one wasn’t his fault, striker can only hold his run for so long, Henderson had 3 opportunities to release it and held onto it too long.

Yeah I was going to add that they weren’t both necessarily his fault either 👍

[Wilson]

Still in think colin nish was better, and I thought nish was murder at the time

You're half right. Nish was murder!

[JimBHibees]

Tremendous finish hopefully start of a run. Was quite frustrating today in general no idea why tried to pass when a clear shot just after he scored

[brog]

Tremendous finish hopefully start of a run. Was quite frustrating today in general no idea why tried to pass when a clear shot just after he scored


In the 1st half Cadden shot when if had slipped it to Henderson he had an empty net. I saw Nisbet telling him that after it. Possibly that influenced his thinking but I wouldn't have been passing it! :wink:

[brog]

He can be a wonderful player, i have said that many many times, but the current version is poor, has been poor for way too long, especially someone who has scored goals in Glasgow as you say.

Agreed! Though I think he's getting there!

[theonlywayisup]

Such a frustrating player! The boy is obviously class, but he needs to show it more often.

I think his link up play is generally very good, but even today he had some poor attempts to pass to a team-mate.

Whilst he took his goal really well, he missed easier attempts in recent games (i.e. the Celtic game).

So frustrating! He's got the ability, but just needs to show it more often.

[J-C]

Really well taken goal, should have put his foot through the ball 5 mins later when clean through, wasn't great today in general but hopefully that goal gives him confidence, he like a few players at Hibs are very frustrating knowing what they're capable of, just need to show it more often. JDH can be like that too, he played a sublime through ball I think for Mueller, would love to see that more often as we know he can do it.

[Dashing Bob S]

Nisbet is class and is slowly playing his way out of this confidence/form slump. When he does he'll emerge wiser and stronger from this experience.

[StirlingHibee]

Have been a critic of his but that goal was superbly executed. Well done Kevin!

[JimBHibees]

In the 1st half Cadden shot when if had slipped it to Henderson he had an empty net. I saw Nisbet telling him that after it. Possibly that influenced his thinking but I wouldn't have been passing it! :wink:

Clear shot and wasn't an obvious pass so you would have thought he would have smashed given he had just scored.

[Onion]

It wasn’t dire at all. He was having a good game when the goal came (despite all the Naesbets efforts to tell us otherwise) and I wasn’t in the least bit surprised it was him that scored.

Even Kenny Miller on BBC said he thought Nisbet was poor in the first half. His goal was class, but the rest of his game was garbage.

[WeeRussell]

Even Kenny Miller on BBC said he thought Nisbet was poor in the first half. His goal was class, but the rest of his game was garbage.

Even WeeRussell on hibs.net said he was poor in the first half too…

The rest of his game was very good in the second half prior to his goal.

[brog]

Even Kenny Miller on BBC said he thought Nisbet was poor in the first half. His goal was class, but the rest of his game was garbage.

I'm not sure he said Nisbet was poor. IIRC I think he said something about needing to do more but he said he was excellent in 2nd half and on a couple of occasions was very complimentary 're a couple of his touches. To say the rest of his game was garbage is IMO garbage!

[brog]

Clear shot and wasn't an obvious pass so you would have thought he would have smashed given he had just scored.

Yep, I agree, I was shouting at the screen. I wasn't excusing him, just offering a possible explanation for why he passed.

[hibbysam]

Yep, I agree, I was shouting at the screen. I wasn't excusing him, just offering a possible explanation for why he passed.

I think Mueller must’ve been screaming on it as Nisbet never looks once. He probably felt Mueller had a tap in and was looking for his first goal so tried to roll him in.

[jacomo]

I thought he was terrible throughout, however…

His goal was excellent, and when a striker scores a goal like that, you’ll turn a blind eye to other stuff. He’s been justifiably criticised for dropping deep and then not getting into the box to get on the end of chances. Today his all round play was poorer but he was in the right place at the right time and clinical when he got there.

Any striker who scores a significant goal should consider it a decent day’s work. And hopefully he’ll think about hitting a few more shots with power rather than placing them, as he’s got a decent strike on him.


I think Shaun’s been asking him to drop deeper at times to get involved in play. Of course he also needs to be at the sharp end to convert chances.

Presumably this is a big focus in training, and will mean a more mobile striker with more intelligent movement.

[Shrekko]

A player capable of the sublime and the ridiculous in the space of seconds. He was probably made for Hibs….

[USAHibee]

Let's support the boy through thick and thin, no doubt he goes out every week and gives 100%.

[heretoday]

Nisbet lives to fight another day.

[Keith_M]

Good goal, decent finish, but he needs to do it more regularly in the top flight ...


:agree:

[DIXIHIBS]

Some loudmouth at the back of the shed was giving nisbet absolute pelters. Very angry wee man. He got shouted down by other fans. Needless to say he shut his fat mouth after nisbet scored. Moaning about a player is part of the game but screamin abuse isnt. Good to see the reception nisbet got when he came off and walked past the hibs support. Hopefully give his confidence a lift.

[Alfred E Newman]

I think Mueller must’ve been screaming on it as Nisbet never looks once. He probably felt Mueller had a tap in and was looking for his first goal so tried to roll him in.

If he had tried the shot and the keeper blocked it they would have been saying he should have squared it for Mueller.
The guy can't win.

[Wilson]

If he had tried the shot and the keeper blocked it they would have been saying he should have squared it for Mueller.
The guy can't win.

This is what I thought too. Selfishness comes easy to strikers so I prefer to credit them when they try the unselfish.

I'm willing to bet Kevin would have blasted it at 1-0 or 1-1 though!

[JimBHibees]

If he had tried the shot and the keeper blocked it they would have been saying he should have squared it for Mueller.
The guy can't win.

I wouldn't have been saying that if he shot and it was blocked. It didn't look a pass was on unlike other chances Cadden in first half when Henderson was free in the middle, at no time imo did Mueller look on for a pass but no doubt Nisbet has reacted to a shout.

[Key West]

Thought his goal was excellent and there's a lot of potential in the link up with Henderson who is always looking to make something happen.

[A Hi-Bee]

Think he tried to lay it on a plate for Mueller, i like that he is always in the right spot, don't give up and keeps going, perseveres eh!
:thumbsup:

[basehibby]

He was lucky top get a second bite at it, after passing to the keeper's knees!

He was going for the far post you mug - the keeper got in the way (which is his job).

[basehibby]

He was awful, has been awful for a long time. He looks a very average player, and a goal against a part time team does not change that.

You and a lot of other Hibs fans appear to have got yourselves in such a fankle of Nissy-hating-obsession that you have lost your objectivity and cannot see anything good in what he does.

His performance level was GOOD on Sunday - and has been for a number of weeks. The only thing that's been missing has been sticking the ball in the net.

For me something clicked with the whole team on Sunday and I will stick my neck out and predict a good run of form following on from this - with a sprinkling of Nissy goals a major part of it.

[The Harp Awakes]

You and a lot of other Hibs fans appear to have got yourselves in such a fankle of Nissy-hating-obsession that you have lost your objectivity and cannot see anything good in what he does.

His performance level was GOOD on Sunday - and has been for a number of weeks. The only thing that's been missing has been sticking the ball in the net.

For me something clicked with the whole team on Sunday and I will stick my neck out and predict a good run of form following on from this - with a sprinkling of Nissy goals a major part of it.

I agree with this. Kevin is a very frustrating player. He clearly has a lot of ability and his goal on Sunday was pure class.

I think Hibs have to find a way of getting the best out of him in every game. Some might say it is up to him to produce the goods, but I think it is a 2 way street. Kevin needs to add more to his game and improve his work rate but at the same time, the team needs to be provide him with better quality service. I think Ewan Henderson may be the player to do that.

[basehibby]

You're half right. Nish was murder!

Nish was a more limited player but had some talent all the same - but we failed to get the best out of him. This was in no small part IMO due to a shower of ********s in the stands that could not get their heads round the fact that this (guessing) 100K import from Kilmarnock was not actually Jurgen Klinsman in disguise and thereby showered his every touch with barrackings & abuse - resulting in a noticeable slump in form rather than inspiring improvement.

Not saying any player is beyond criticism but some fans bemuse and dismay me as they seem to have no grip at all on the concept of "supporting" their team - and thereby end up being more of a hindrance than a help at times by creating a hostile atmosphere and making ER an intimidating arena for our OWN players rather than the opposition. I think some of these characters are in danger of pulling the same trick with Nisbet. Hopefully though his superior talent will see Nisbet banging away the goals for fun again soon and make his detractors look like fools.

Hibs.net is not ER of course and there's got to be some scope for criticism - but neither is it isolated from the stadium on match day and I think both feed into each other in terms of general mood and atmosphere - so OTT blinkered "hating" still has the potential to be damaging if it gets out of hand.

[Crunchie]

Nish was a more limited player but had some talent all the same - but we failed to get the best out of him. This was in no small part IMO due to a shower of ********s in the stands that could not get their heads round the fact that this (guessing) 100K import from Kilmarnock was not actually Jurgen Klinsman in disguise and thereby showered his every touch with barrackings & abuse - resulting in a noticeable slump in form rather than inspiring improvement.

Not saying any player is beyond criticism but some fans bemuse and dismay me as they seem to have no grip at all on the concept of "supporting" their team - and thereby end up being more of a hindrance than a help at times by creating a hostile atmosphere and making ER an intimidating arena for our OWN players rather than the opposition. I think some of these characters are in danger of pulling the same trick with Nisbet. Hopefully though his superior talent will see Nisbet banging away the goals for fun again soon and make his detractors look like fools.

Hibs.net is not ER of course and there's got to be some scope for criticism - but neither is it isolated from the stadium on match day and I think both feed into each other in terms of general mood and atmosphere - so OTT blinkered "hating" still has the potential to be damaging if it gets out of hand.
Well said :aok:

[weecounty hibby]

Hooefully he can do a Keith Keith Keith and score in every round including the final. Maybe he would get some credit then. It honestly amazes me the stick he gets on here and more so in matchdays.

[blackpoolhibs]

You and a lot of other Hibs fans appear to have got yourselves in such a fankle of Nissy-hating-obsession that you have lost your objectivity and cannot see anything good in what he does.

His performance level was GOOD on Sunday - and has been for a number of weeks. The only thing that's been missing has been sticking the ball in the net.

For me something clicked with the whole team on Sunday and I will stick my neck out and predict a good run of form following on from this - with a sprinkling of Nissy goals a major part of it.

I thought he was poor on Sunday, and i've thought he's been poor for a long time. We must watch a different game.

He has had the odd decent game this season, and when he has i've said so and hoped he would continue to have them.

His goal was brilliant play, and i thought he made the right decision to try and play the ball across the goal for a certain tap in but was unfortunate it was blocked.

As i said before though, if he plays well he will get praise from everyone including me, i just dont think he has.

[Crunchie]

I thought he was poor on Sunday, and i've thought he's been poor for a long time. We must watch a different game.

He has had the odd decent game this season, and when he has i've said so and hoped he would continue to have them.

His goal was brilliant play, and i thought he made the right decision to try and play the ball across the goal for a certain tap in but was unfortunate it was blocked.

As i said before though, if he plays well he will get praise from everyone including me, i just dont think he has.
The above post makes your waste of a jersey comment on the match day thread look a bit ott don't you think.

[Keepthefaith]

You and a lot of other Hibs fans appear to have got yourselves in such a fankle of Nissy-hating-obsession that you have lost your objectivity and cannot see anything good in what he does.

His performance level was GOOD on Sunday - and has been for a number of weeks. The only thing that's been missing has been sticking the ball in the net.

For me something clicked with the whole team on Sunday and I will stick my neck out and predict a good run of form following on from this - with a sprinkling of Nissy goals a major part of it.

Can't disagree with any of that! He's actually an intelligent player. One of my frustrations with him has been that he tries too hard sometimes to be clever, placing shots so I was delighted to see him put some force in the shot for his goal!

We've a good player there. Pretty sure he'll benefit from Maloneys experience too and push his game on

[Crunchie]

Can't disagree with any of that! He's actually an intelligent player. One of my frustrations with him has been that he tries too hard sometimes to be clever, placing shots so I was delighted to see him put some force in the shot for his goal!

We've a good player there. Pretty sure he'll benefit from Maloneys experience too and push his game on
I agree, once he gets his confidence back he'll be back to his imperious best and banging them in. Now that Boyler's gone I hope he gets the penalty taking duties back, scoring goals will bring it back quicker.

[erin go bragh]

He had 1 decent chance in the 1st half which he pretty much created himself and he showed great skill and vision from the rebound. He was chasing down everything and mistimed a couple of tackles. If he hadn't then people would be on here telling us he's lazy with a bad attitude. We really need to cut him some slack and get behind him and every Hibs player.

Agree 100% . The fans at the game singing his name appreciated his effort and great goal . Hopefully he kicks on now and we have a great striker oozing confidence.

[Sioux]

He was going for the far post you mug - the keeper got in the way (which is his job).

Well thought out response.

Pity you didn't analyse his success rate when 'going for the far post'.

KN really needs to find another way to make best use of these type of chances that come his way. This is not KN bashing. It's a measured critique on his technique, or as some on here like to say 'his decision making'.

Doing the same thing time and again, but expecting different results..............

[blackpoolhibs]

The above post makes your waste of a jersey comment on the match day thread look a bit ott don't you think.
I dont see how, when i said it he had been useless up to that point, a waste of a jersey as i said. Yes he scored a great goal, but in my opinion Doidge would have contributed more or Mueller. I want much more contribution from mt centre forward than he's contributed over the last 6 months, irrespective that he might have scored a few goals in that time.

If he plays well this weekend, i will say so, if he's pish as he normally is, i will also say so, he needs to do better.

[WeeRussell]

I dont see how, when i said it he had been useless up to that point, a waste of a jersey as i said. Yes he scored a great goal, but in my opinion Doidge would have contributed more or Mueller. I want much more contribution from mt centre forward than he's contributed over the last 6 months, irrespective that he might have scored a few goals in that time.

If he plays well this weekend, i will say so, if he's pish as he normally is, i will also say so, he needs to do better.

I don’t want to turn this into bashing more hibs players but… what has Doidge done since returning to suggest he would contribute more than Nisbet?

[Winston Ingram]

I don’t want to turn this into bashing more hibs players but… what has Doidge done since returning to suggest he would contribute more than Nisbet?

Tbf Doidge has only started 4 games and if Nisbet is the standard he’s getting measured against, he really doesn’t have to do much at all.

[CapitalGreen]

I don’t want to turn this into bashing more hibs players but… what has Doidge done since returning to suggest he would contribute more than Nisbet?

Absolutely nothing.

[WeeRussell]

Tbf Doidge has only started 4 games and if Nisbet is the standard he’s getting measured against, he really doesn’t have to do much at all.

I don’t think “to be fair” is applicable when you’re posting about Nisbet. Nae offence like.

[Winston Ingram]

I don’t think “to be fair” is applicable when you’re posting about Nisbet. Nae offence like.

I know. I should obviously pretend he’s been good instead🥴

[blackpoolhibs]

I don’t want to turn this into bashing more hibs players but… what has Doidge done since returning to suggest he would contribute more than Nisbet?

Doidge will always give a 100%, he's clearly still struggling for fitness, but starting him instead of Nisbet would help him get fitter, he'd give his all, and in my opinion couldnt be any worse but would get fitter and better the more he played.

I'd not be aversed to playing them both, as they have shown us in the past they do work well together, but it does not look like SM will do this.

Nisbet might then have had the kick up the erse he needs.

[hibsbollah]

Is it not obvious that Nisbet needs a rest? Back to back long seasons with cup runs, COVID interruptions and international games, on top of the emotional blow of losing his dad? Added to the fact that Doudge clearly isn’t fit yet after his injury and we’ve lost Boyle so Kevin hasn’t got the same quality at striking partner to play off :dunno: He’s also being asked to track back a lot more (which he’s been doing well recently, showing a lot of desire in the false 9 role) which is energy sapping.

[Smartie]

Is it not obvious that Nisbet needs a rest? Back to back long seasons with cup runs, COVID interruptions and international games, on top of the emotional blow of losing his dad? Added to the fact that Doudge clearly isn’t fit yet after his injury and we’ve lost Boyle so Kevin hasn’t got the same quality at striking partner to play off :dunno: He’s also being asked to track back a lot more (which he’s been doing well recently, showing a lot of desire in the false 9 role) which is energy sapping.

Nisbet has me torn. I go back and forth between thinking he's an absolute waste of space, needing binned and that he's the Achilles heel in our team...

...and feeling absolutely heart sorry for him. His body language at times has been poor but I don't think any of us can appreciate how tough it can be to be struggling badly whilst under scrutiny and with great expectation. I've often gone for the reason behind his struggling being the most straightforward "he's simply a bit pish" or "his attitude isn't what it should be, never been right since his head was turned when the big bucks were on offer last January" whereas more innocent explanations might be valid. Exhaustion, being asked to learn more unfamiliar roles (whether that's the dropping deep or playing up front on his own) all of the other factors you mention.

He clearly has something, there have been goals and there have been decent performances along the way. The problem with lone striker formations though is that you can't carry someone playing there who is out of form for long or your team ends up in big trouble.

Nisbet baffles me and frustrates me but I'm still rooting for him to come good. Maloney now has other options available and keeps picking him, which suggests to me that the "stuff we as fans don't see" is acceptable (training, attitude, getting on with other players etc).

[hibsbollah]

Nisbet has me torn. I go back and forth between thinking he's an absolute waste of space, needing binned and that he's the Achilles heel in our team...

...and feeling absolutely heart sorry for him. His body language at times has been poor but I don't think any of us can appreciate how tough it can be to be struggling badly whilst under scrutiny and with great expectation. I've often gone for the reason behind his struggling being the most straightforward "he's simply a bit pish" or "his attitude isn't what it should be, never been right since his head was turned when the big bucks were on offer last January" whereas more innocent explanations might be valid. Exhaustion, being asked to learn more unfamiliar roles (whether that's the dropping deep or playing up front on his own) all of the other factors you mention.

He clearly has something, there have been goals and there have been decent performances along the way. The problem with lone striker formations though is that you can't carry someone playing there who is out of form for long or your team ends up in big trouble.

Nisbet baffles me and frustrates me but I'm still rooting for him to come good. Maloney now has other options available and keeps picking him, which suggests to me that the "stuff we as fans don't see" is acceptable (training, attitude, getting on with other players etc).

That’s how I feel. None can pretend he’s firing at the moment but there’s so many external factors to consider. I mentioned before I know one of his ex teammates at Dunfermline fairly well, who said his commitment to training and working in the gym is absolutely ridiculous, put everyone else to shame.

[blackpoolhibs]

That’s how I feel. None can pretend he’s firing at the moment but there’s so many external factors to consider. I mentioned before I know one of his ex teammates at Dunfermline fairly well, who said his commitment to training and working in the gym is absolutely ridiculous, put everyone else to shame.

Which beggars the question, why dont we see that hunger and desire every Saturday?

We've all seen how good he can be, we just want to see more of it.

[hibsbollah]

Which beggars the question, why dont we see that hunger and desire every Saturday?

We've all seen how good he can be, we just want to see more of it.

Like I said, maybe he needs a rest?

[blackpoolhibs]

Like I said, maybe he needs a rest?

Aye perhaps, and with us having more options now maybe he will get one.

[Winston Ingram]

Doidge will always give a 100%, he's clearly still struggling for fitness, but starting him instead of Nisbet would help him get fitter, he'd give his all, and in my opinion couldnt be any worse but would get fitter and better the more he played.

I'd not be aversed to playing them both, as they have shown us in the past they do work well together, but it does not look like SM will do this.

Nisbet might then have had the kick up the erse he needs.

This.

[brog]

I honestly feel some posters, some of whom I greatly respect, have lost all objectivity with regard to Nisbet since the 'transfer request' fiasco. I'm not sure they mean it but they seem to find it impossible to praise his good work but jump on every mistake. For those posters, even his superb goal last Sunday met with grudging or qualified praise. Meanwhile Doidge gets better every game he doesn't play. Now I like the big guy, but mostly for his attitude and effort rather than his overall football ability. Now since his injury/illness Christian has played about 7 hours of football. In that time he's not just failed to score but I believe has had only 1 effort on target. This is not intended to knock Christian, I try not to do that for any Hibs player, but just to put things into perspective. Imagine if that had been Nisbet. Certain players get treated differently from others for varying reasons, Scotty for example will get cut much more slack than JDH. How's about we give all our players a clean slate, get 100% behind them all and try to focus on the positives. You may find it enjoyable!

[WeeRussell]

I honestly feel some posters, some of whom I greatly respect, have lost all objectivity with regard to Nisbet since the 'transfer request' fiasco. I'm not sure they mean it but they seem to find it impossible to praise his good work but jump on every mistake. For those posters, even his superb goal last Sunday met with grudging or qualified praise. Meanwhile Doidge gets better every game he doesn't play. Now I like the big guy, but mostly for his attitude and effort rather than his overall football ability. Now since his injury/illness Christian has played about 7 hours of football. In that time he's not just failed to score but I believe has had only 1 effort on target. This is not intended to knock Christian, I try not to do that for any Hibs player, but just to put things into perspective. Imagine if that had been Nisbet. Certain players get treated differently from others for varying reasons, Scotty for example will get cut much more slack than JDH. How's about we give all our players a clean slate, get 100% behind them all and try to focus on the positives. You may find it enjoyable!

Spot on but a waste of your time… be prepared for replies insisting they are being objective but Nisbet doesn’t make an effort or is a waste of a jersey, whereas Doidge just isn’t fit.

[B.H.F.C]

I honestly feel some posters, some of whom I greatly respect, have lost all objectivity with regard to Nisbet since the 'transfer request' fiasco. I'm not sure they mean it but they seem to find it impossible to praise his good work but jump on every mistake. For those posters, even his superb goal last Sunday met with grudging or qualified praise. Meanwhile Doidge gets better every game he doesn't play. Now I like the big guy, but mostly for his attitude and effort rather than his overall football ability. Now since his injury/illness Christian has played about 7 hours of football. In that time he's not just failed to score but I believe has had only 1 effort on target. This is not intended to knock Christian, I try not to do that for any Hibs player, but just to put things into perspective. Imagine if that had been Nisbet. Certain players get treated differently from others for varying reasons, Scotty for example will get cut much more slack than JDH. How's about we give all our players a clean slate, get 100% behind them all and try to focus on the positives. You may find it enjoyable!

Disagree with your initial point on Nisbet, but do agree with your point on Doidge. I thought everyone was, pretty much, in agreement that Nisbet scored a brilliant goal last week (doing something that many on here have been suggesting he should be doing a bit more of in getting across the front post). That aside, I thought he was poor and has been much of the season.

As for Doidge, he’s been back training for close to four months now which is longer than he was out. He still looks miles off it and really needs to start offering more. For all the talk of needing to play, I thought he was getting progressively worse when he had those four starts in the space of a fortnight.

[hibeg]

I honestly feel some posters, some of whom I greatly respect, have lost all objectivity with regard to Nisbet since the 'transfer request' fiasco. I'm not sure they mean it but they seem to find it impossible to praise his good work but jump on every mistake. For those posters, even his superb goal last Sunday met with grudging or qualified praise. Meanwhile Doidge gets better every game he doesn't play. Now I like the big guy, but mostly for his attitude and effort rather than his overall football ability. Now since his injury/illness Christian has played about 7 hours of football. In that time he's not just failed to score but I believe has had only 1 effort on target. This is not intended to knock Christian, I try not to do that for any Hibs player, but just to put things into perspective. Imagine if that had been Nisbet. Certain players get treated differently from others for varying reasons, Scotty for example will get cut much more slack than JDH. How's about we give all our players a clean slate, get 100% behind them all and try to focus on the positives. You may find it enjoyable!

Brog. Can you remember a couple of years back when CD missed a few chances at Pittodrie. He was getting absolutely slated by the vast majority as a complete waste of space, get rid etc, etc
Not long later, he was the best striker we had for years!
He is very decent at our level and wasn’t far away from a Wales call up pre injury
Kevin Nisbet is a quality player, he drops a bit deeper and can link up play.He can also score goals !
Bookmark this, he will be eventually sold for 3m plus !!!

[A Hi-Bee]

Disagree with your initial point on Nisbet, but do agree with your point on Doidge. I thought everyone was, pretty much, in agreement that Nisbet scored a brilliant goal last week (doing something that many on here have been suggesting he should be doing a bit more of in getting across the front post). That aside, I thought he was poor and has been much of the season.

As for Doidge, he’s been back training for close to four months now which is longer than he was out. He still looks miles off it and really needs to start offering more. For all the talk of needing to play, I thought he was getting progressively worse when he had those four starts in the space of a fortnight.

Kevin will eventually be sold for a fair bit of cash for Hibs, he is a quality player who has been going through a pretty rocky time, Big Doidge I said at the time he would be lucky to even be back on the pitch by Feb/March of this year, none of us has any idea just how Covid effects different people and in particular top Sports men/women, something that we will not really know about for another ten years or so.
So in my own case I am tending to cut the players some slack as I know how it has effected me, and I ant no top sportsman.

[erin go bragh]

I honestly feel some posters, some of whom I greatly respect, have lost all objectivity with regard to Nisbet since the 'transfer request' fiasco. I'm not sure they mean it but they seem to find it impossible to praise his good work but jump on every mistake. For those posters, even his superb goal last Sunday met with grudging or qualified praise. Meanwhile Doidge gets better every game he doesn't play. Now I like the big guy, but mostly for his attitude and effort rather than his overall football ability. Now since his injury/illness Christian has played about 7 hours of football. In that time he's not just failed to score but I believe has had only 1 effort on target. This is not intended to knock Christian, I try not to do that for any Hibs player, but just to put things into perspective. Imagine if that had been Nisbet. Certain players get treated differently from others for varying reasons, Scotty for example will get cut much more slack than JDH. How's about we give all our players a clean slate, get 100% behind them all and try to focus on the positives. You may find it enjoyable!

Well said Brog . At least the majority of the fans at the game on Sunday appreciated Kevin Nisbet ( singing his name ) Hopefully he kicks on now and gets everyone on his side .

[brog]

Well said Brog . At least the majority of the fans at the game on Sunday appreciated Kevin Nisbet ( singing his name ) Hopefully he kicks on now and gets everyone on his side .

Thanks for yours and other responses, I know we all want the same thing, success for our team.

[cameronw-hfc]

Well said :aok:

Can add Lewis to that list as well. Was a period lewis was targetted bad, but I agree, the Nish one sticks out to me as well. Use to remember I was younger at the time an mortified at the way he got boo'd, jeered etc. I never rated Nish but I've never boo'd or jeered a hibs player at a game, ever.

[FitbaFolkKen]

Which beggars the question, why dont we see that hunger and desire every Saturday?

We've all seen how good he can be, we just want to see more of it.

I think we do see the work rate, been several times in the last few weeks you see him track back and harrying and tackling. I would just like to see him put his foot through the ball a bit more often. Several times he has tried cutbacks to others or placing the ball when I think he needs to just rattle it.

I think he is really good and just needs a couple of goals, both for him and for the fans to give him a break.

[blackpoolhibs]

I think we do see the work rate, been several times in the last few weeks you see him track back and harrying and tackling. I would just like to see him put his foot through the ball a bit more often. Several times he has tried cutbacks to others or placing the ball when I think he needs to just rattle it.

I think he is really good and just needs a couple of goals, both for him and for the fans to give him a break.

I agree, which is why i said we havent seen it every game, but yes he has looked more interested recently. :agree:

[Winston Ingram]

Are we pretending he played well today as well?

[hibee1875]

Are we pretending he played well today as well?

He seemed to think the world was against him today. It wasn’t, he was just committing lazy fouls.

[Allant1981]

He seemed to think the world was against him today. It wasn’t, he was just committing lazy fouls.

The one where he got booked was due to another touch of his going about 5ft away from him, cant see him being our main striker next season

[loanheadhibby]

Brog. Can you remember a couple of years back when CD missed a few chances at Pittodrie. He was getting absolutely slated by the vast majority as a complete waste of space, get rid etc, etc
Not long later, he was the best striker we had for years!
He is very decent at our level and wasn’t far away from a Wales call up pre injury
Kevin Nisbet is a quality player, he drops a bit deeper and can link up play.He can also score goals !
Bookmark this, he will be eventually sold for 3m plus !!!
You have to be joking it will be a miracle if we get 500k for him.
Hope I'm wrong and the net will get my apologies.

[brog]

I honestly think there are some posters who would rather be proven right about a Hibs player being poor than enjoying seeing that player scoring and playing well for our club. Baffling!

[ancient hibee]

I honestly think there are some posters who would rather be proven right about a Hibs player being poor than enjoying seeing that player scoring and playing well for our club. Baffling!

Don't know what you're doing on the moanalot thread.

[Alfred E Newman]

Are we pretending he played well today as well?

Boring.

[dp00]

No way he is going to be in the Scotland squad , we actually play some good stuff but he just doesn’t try to get on the end of it, a few neat passes today but doesn’t work anywhere near hard enough for me

If your going to have the persona of being the big guy who strolls about the pitch then you need to back it up with performances And he hasn’t done it consistently for a while

Maybe being dropped from Scotland would be kick up backside he needs


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[Brightside]

Are we pretending he played well today as well?

Great game again. Worked his back side off. You are showing you lack of game intelligence to constantly ignore his work rate and what he brings to the team.

[Brightside]

No way he is going to be in the Scotland squad , we actually play some good stuff but he just doesn’t try to get on the end of it, a few neat passes today but doesn’t work anywhere near hard enough for me

If your going to have the persona of being the big guy who strolls about the pitch then you need to back it up with performances And he hasn’t done it consistently for a while

Maybe being dropped from Scotland would be kick up backside he needs


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You are wrong. He spends most of the game linking up the midifield....and then he is the one running himself into the ground trying to get onto a cadden cross. Where is everyone else during that play.

[Winston Ingram]

I honestly think there are some posters who would rather be proven right about a Hibs player being poor than enjoying seeing that player scoring and playing well for our club. Baffling!

What’s more baffling is that we have a centre forward who is utterly appalling week after week, month after month, and we have posters on here calling out posters that want to understand why this imposter keeps getting a game.

[Winston Ingram]

Brog. Can you remember a couple of years back when CD missed a few chances at Pittodrie. He was getting absolutely slated by the vast majority as a complete waste of space, get rid etc, etc
Not long later, he was the best striker we had for years!
He is very decent at our level and wasn’t far away from a Wales call up pre injury
Kevin Nisbet is a quality player, he drops a bit deeper and can link up play.He can also score goals !
Bookmark this, he will be eventually sold for 3m plus !!!

Ye can bookmark this. We’ll release him at the end of his contract and I guarantee you it’ll be a lot closer to the truth than your prediction.

[Brightside]

What’s more baffling is that we have a centre forward who is utterly appalling week after week, month after month, and we have posters on here calling out posters that want to understand why this imposter keeps getting a game.

Imposter? Appalling? Its just nonsense.

[Winston Ingram]

Imposter? Appalling? Its just nonsense.

His performance yet again was that’s for sure

[Logie Green]

You are wrong. He spends most of the game linking up the midifield....and then he is the one running himself into the ground trying to get onto a cadden cross. Where is everyone else during that play.

In one move in the first half today another good cross was played in from the right. Where was Nisbet? At the 18 yard line.

He hadn’t dropped back to play the ball out wide so had no reason not to try to meet the cross but once again just didn’t have the intelligence or interest in trying to get into a decent position.

This sort of thing happens far too often; he seems to watch play at times instead of getting involved. The annoying thing is that as he proved last week at Arbroath he can do it so to me there’s an element of laziness to his play.

If he’d got on the end of 30% of Cadden’s good crosses in the last few weeks he’d be our top scorer by now.

[WeeRussell]

Ye can bookmark this. We’ll release him at the end of his contract and I guarantee you it’ll be a lot closer to the truth than your prediction.

Will you release yourself from hibs.net if we don’t?

[The 90+2]

His performance yet again was that’s for sure


I usually really like your posts mate but you're on a vendetta here like.

[WeeRussell]

I usually really like your posts mate but you're on a vendetta here like.

Has he posted anything but Nisbet criticism/abuse this year like?

[hibsbollah]

2-0 win, up to 4th but the aggressive need to find ‘culprits’ on our own side. Culprits for what? Winning? Commitment to passing football with a new manager with a squad missing six starters?

Bizarre. But commonplace these days.

[The 90+2]

Has he posted anything but Nisbet criticism/abuse this year like?


Dunno tbh, no a stalker :greengrin

[stoneyburn hibs]

He's got it, definitely a great player.
Needs some psychology help.

[The 90+2]

He's got it, definitely a great player.
Needs some psychology help.

People forget he's a young guy whos father died last year. I know, older than him when it happens to me I'll go down the pan a lot worse than not scoring goals at football and think the world is on my shoulders.

Nisbet was going through the best period of his career, destined for England and money made for life and then his dad died. think about that logically and it's horrible.

[Unseen work]

He’s working so much harder now under Maloney and his performances have improved.

Well done today Kevin.

[Crunchie]

I agree, which is why i said we havent seen it every game, but yes he has looked more interested recently. :agree:
By recently do you mean yesterday or last week when you said he was a waste of a jersey?

[brog]

No way he is going to be in the Scotland squad , we actually play some good stuff but he just doesn’t try to get on the end of it, a few neat passes today but doesn’t work anywhere near hard enough for me

If your going to have the persona of being the big guy who strolls about the pitch then you need to back it up with performances And he hasn’t done it consistently for a while

Maybe being dropped from Scotland would be kick up backside he needs


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Who's going to replace him for Scotland? There isn't another Scottish striker other than perhaps Tony Watt, at any of the top SPFL teams. Adams is a shoo in and Nisbet's only competition seems to be a Stoke (mainly) reserve. If you can unearth another striker then I'm sure Steve C will be delighted. PS, McBurnie doesn't count! :wink:

[B.H.F.C]

You are wrong. He spends most of the game linking up the midifield....and then he is the one running himself into the ground trying to get onto a cadden cross. Where is everyone else during that play.

I don’t think he was involved in the build up to any of the chances we actually created. And he didn’t get on the end of anything himself. I didn’t think he really had any impact on the game at all. Worked hard enough.

[JimBHibees]

What’s more baffling is that we have a centre forward who is utterly appalling week after week, month after month, and we have posters on here calling out posters that want to understand why this imposter keeps getting a game.

Nowhere near appalling imo. Worked hard. Maybe we should get Jamie McLaren back :greengrin

[hibee-boys]

I really don’t get the criticism of his work rate off late, in fairness some of his tracking back is trying to recover lost balls from his hold up play but he’s being forced to play a lone striker role that I just don’t think plays to his strengths. He is so isolated at times that he’s trying to retain position whilst being surrounded by 3 to 4 opposition players. I think he’s a great instinctive striker, find a formation that gets him into dangerous positions in the box, not trying to hold up play at the half way line.

[blackpoolhibs]

By recently do you mean yesterday or last week when you said he was a waste of a jersey?
As recent as last week, he was awful in that first half, a complete waste of a jersey. Great goal though, i think everyone here is in agreement with that.

And yesterday, was not going to post anything about him after the win, but if that performance is what you like from a centre forward, then i must want a bit more than you do, sorry a lot more than you do.

[Crunchie]

As recent as last week, he was awful in that first half, a complete waste of a jersey. Great goal though, i think everyone here is in agreement with that.

And yesterday, was not going to post anything about him after the win, but if that performance is what you like from a centre forward, then i must want a bit more than you do, sorry a lot more than you do.
Everyone isn't in agreement with that at all, you're all over the place in your posting of Nizzy, and you did post that's why I quoted you.
We all know he can do better but he's nowhere near as bad as you're making him out to be. You're even wanting Doidge in the team in place of him when he's nowhere near Nizzy's level.
And the complete waste of a jersey comment is bang out of order levelled t any of our players imo.

[Smartie]

I really don’t get the criticism of his work rate off late, in fairness some of his tracking back is trying to recover lost balls from his hold up play but he’s being forced to play a lone striker role that I just don’t think plays to his strengths. He is so isolated at times that he’s trying to retain position whilst being surrounded by 3 to 4 opposition players. I think he’s a great instinctive striker, find a formation that gets him into dangerous positions in the box, not trying to hold up play at the half way line.

His work rate appears acceptable.

I’d rather he didn’t work so hard. I’d rather he did very little of the build up play, which I don’t think he’s naturally great at. I’d rather he stayed up front, didn’t venture much wider than the widths of the posts and occasionally sparked into life whenever it looked like Cadden (or anyone else) was getting into the right position to play a cross or through ball.

He’s shown he can finish, he’s shown he can time a run. Why he doesn’t manage to do it more often is a mystery to me, but I’m pretty sure pissing about miles from goal trying to create stuff that nobody’s going to get on the end of is contributing.

You can’t really fault his closing down etc when we don’t have possession.

It looks like game intelligence to me, rather than work rate. He looks like a younger player who has done well at a lower level but who is getting to grips with a step up in standard. At his age and with the number of appearances he’s got for us and Scotland, that really shouldn’t be the case.

[weecounty hibby]

One thing I noticed about Kevin yesterday was his reaction when we scored. He certainly didn't look like someone who doesn't care. He is having one of those spells where it's not quite working for him in front of goals but that could be in part due to our set up at the moment. But I can't fault his effort at the moment

[blackpoolhibs]

Everyone isn't in agreement with that at all, you're all over the place in your posting of Nizzy, and you did post that's why I quoted you.
We all know he can do better but he's nowhere near as bad as you're making him out to be. You're even wanting Doidge in the team in place of him when he's nowhere near Nizzy's level.
And the complete waste of a jersey comment is bang out of order levelled t any of our players imo.

I think he's been very poor for way too long, he has had the odd flash of brilliance from time to time, but clearly i want more from Hibs players than you do.

He's nowhere near good enough for us when he's playing bad, which again in my opinion has been too long, and yesterday again, he just seems to be going through the motions, no real desire just a player who frustrates the hell out of me, because as we have seen, he can be very good.

You could pick Doidge or Scott up front who clearly have nowhere near the ability Nisbet has, but if we did, are you honestly saying you would see a drop in standard from what we currently get from Nisbet?

Anyway, Hibs won and everything is good.

[ancient hibee]

His work rate appears acceptable.

I’d rather he didn’t work so hard. I’d rather he did very little of the build up play, which I don’t think he’s naturally great at. I’d rather he stayed up front, didn’t venture much wider than the widths of the posts and occasionally sparked into life whenever it looked like Cadden (or anyone else) was getting into the right position to play a cross or through ball.

He’s shown he can finish, he’s shown he can time a run. Why he doesn’t manage to do it more often is a mystery to me, but I’m pretty sure pissing about miles from goal trying to create stuff that nobody’s going to get on the end of is contributing.

You can’t really fault his closing down etc when we don’t have possession.

It looks like game intelligence to me, rather than work rate. He looks like a younger player who has done well at a lower level but who is getting to grips with a step up in standard. At his age and with the number of appearances he’s got for us and Scotland, that really shouldn’t be the case.

Are you really saying he’s doing all this off his own bat and not under instructions from the manager?

[Iggy Pope]

Great game again. Worked his back side off. You are showing you lack of game intelligence to constantly ignore his work rate and what he brings to the team.

100% agree. Shabby thread really.

[Iggy Pope]

Will you release yourself from hibs.net if we don’t?

There has been a precedent to this! Sadly the poster in question that time never had the minerals :greengrin

[Smartie]

Are you really saying he’s doing all this off his own bat and not under instructions from the manager?

It's probably a bit of both.

Managers can't really micromanage every movement a player makes yet I don't think players ever just go out there and do what they want.

I've said over the past few days that Nisbet frustrates me greatly. Unlike some, I don't think he's absolutely pish, he clearly has attributes and it frustrates me that we don't appear to get as much from him as we might. We were poor going forward during the first half yesterday and too often we struggle to create and score. As the main striker in the team we can't just hide from the fact that his performances and contributions will be influencing that. And whilst I thought his work rate and attitude were fine I didn't think he played well.

I guess that in answer to the point (I think) you're making, my criticism might well be more one of Maloney than of Nisbet himself.

[hibeg]

Ye can bookmark this. We’ll release him at the end of his contract and I guarantee you it’ll be a lot closer to the truth than your prediction.


You can’t guarantee anything when it comes to transfer dealings regarding Hibs !!
I would hazard a guess that we will not release him
Maybe I shouldn’t have said bookmark the amount, but he will generate a good fee because he is a class player and will prove the doubters wrong.
All IMO of course 👍

[Hibiza]

It's all been said with Kevin . Couple of great goals since he wanted away and a few months before . Really wish he would do more.

[jacomo]

His work rate appears acceptable.

I’d rather he didn’t work so hard. I’d rather he did very little of the build up play, which I don’t think he’s naturally great at. I’d rather he stayed up front, didn’t venture much wider than the widths of the posts and occasionally sparked into life whenever it looked like Cadden (or anyone else) was getting into the right position to play a cross or through ball.

He’s shown he can finish, he’s shown he can time a run. Why he doesn’t manage to do it more often is a mystery to me, but I’m pretty sure pissing about miles from goal trying to create stuff that nobody’s going to get on the end of is contributing.

You can’t really fault his closing down etc when we don’t have possession.

It looks like game intelligence to me, rather than work rate. He looks like a younger player who has done well at a lower level but who is getting to grips with a step up in standard. At his age and with the number of appearances he’s got for us and Scotland, that really shouldn’t be the case.


Shaun is asking him to come deep for the ball. It’s not working.

[Dashing Bob S]

All you can do is graft honestly when things aren’t working for you and wait for the chance to show your class. No complaints about KN at all.

[jacomo]

All you can do is graft honestly when things aren’t working for you and wait for the chance to show your class. No complaints about KN at all.


My take on it is that the tactics aren’t working.

When KN drops deep it allows the opposition back line to push up, compressing the space and making it harder for our midfielders.

If he played on the shoulder, defenders would be in two minds about whether to push up or not, and he’d have less ground to cover to connect with those fizzing low crosses from Cadden.

It’s becoming an issue now and needs sorting.

[1620]

My take on it is that the tactics aren’t working.

When KN drops deep it allows the opposition back line to push up, compressing the space and making it harder for our midfielders.

If he played on the shoulder, defenders would be in two minds about whether to push up or not, and he’d have less ground to cover to connect with those fizzing low crosses from Cadden.

It’s becoming an issue now and needs sorting.

Agree whole heartedly with your comments.
If SM wants Kevin to drop deep at that stage the team needs midfielders running beyond him.
At the moment most of the dangerous crosses into the box are coming from Cadden on right and there doesn’t seem to be any savvy between him and Kevin. I can’t believe they don’t work on that in training but it is difficult to believe they do when you see what happens during matches. I pray these two get on the same wavelength because it looks a real route to more goals if they can get it right.

[blackpoolhibs]

Players like Cadden are told to ping balls into areas of the box, it is up to whoever is in the box to create space for themselves in those areas by getting across the front of their man.

Of course it's nice if the supplier can pick a player out, but they will mostly be outnumbered, and they need to attack spaces to help the crosser.

[LunasBoots]

Players like Cadden are told to ping balls into areas of the box, it is up to whoever is in the box to create space for themselves in those areas by getting across the front of their man.

Of course it's nice if the supplier can pick a player out, but they will mostly be outnumbered, and they need to attack spaces to help the crosser.

After watching the Celtic game yesterday left me thinking that's what I'd like more of from our strikers those poacher type goals.

[ancient hibee]

We need far more crosses being pulled back from the bye line to incoming players and far less from a sort of advanced full back position 35/40 yards deep.

[B.H.F.C]

Agree whole heartedly with your comments.
If SM wants Kevin to drop deep at that stage the team needs midfielders running beyond him.
At the moment most of the dangerous crosses into the box are coming from Cadden on right and there doesn’t seem to be any savvy between him and Kevin. I can’t believe they don’t work on that in training but it is difficult to believe they do when you see what happens during matches. I pray these two get on the same wavelength because it looks a real route to more goals if they can get it right.

Nisbet spoke after Arbroath about Maloney wanting him to be between the posts more. On Saturday, I didn’t really notice him getting involved in the build up play too much. There will be times where he does but I didn’t think it was a feature on Saturday. There was one in the first half where Cadden played it behind him and there was one in the second half where Henderson should have squared it but didn’t so he was trying to get in there (which is something I’ve been critical of). When we’re only playing with one centre forward we need others trying to get in, like Mitchell was doing.

[beensaidbefore]

Let's be honest, none of us really know how much the loss of his dad has impacted on his work/life balance. The poor lad might not be sleeping at night, his mum might be in bits and he is trying to keep his family going etc etc. I would also guess that his dad was a good support to him throughout his football career, moral support etc.

He could even be suffering from depression and struggling to face things, let alone abuse when he comes to work from people who were singing his praises only a short time ago. Nobody really knows how he feels, but it's not like he's had an opportunity to be taken out the firing line. Injuries to key players have meant he has had to play when a spell out of the team might have been the best thing for everyone.

We need to stick by this lad and he will come good.:aok: