Positives

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Cadden has looked really good consistently. Mitchell, Mueller, Henderson and Jasper all looked good. Some really slick play in patches. Disappointing to lose again. But some real positives in there.

[The Spaceman]

Always a very tough game against an in-form side away. We dust ourselves down and go again.

[Unseen work]

As much as I like Cadden I can’t help but feel he’s maybe part of the issue for the role he plays for us.

The wingbacks are high and get in really threatening positions but his final ball and lack of composure results in very little efforts in goal from his positions.

He summed it up tonight when he never squared it for Nisbet.

This is from someone that thinks he’s been really good of late and dominates his side, but going forward something needs to give.

[Steve88]

1) Two points off 4th
2) Dundee and St Johnstone are rank rotten
3) Mueller's a player

(Season's a write off)

[Nicho87]

Soon be renewal time big positive

[thebausburst]

Striker wise absolutely honking, must have the worst forward line in the league surely.

[LaMotta]

As much as I like Cadden I can’t help but feel he’s maybe part of the issue for the role he plays for us.

The wingbacks are high and get in really threatening positions but his final ball and lack of composure results in very little efforts in goal from his positions.

He summed it up tonight when he never squared it for Nisbet.

This is from someone that thinks he’s been really good of late and dominates his side, but going forward something needs to give.


:agree: Great energy, but a lack of composure and end product. One assist for the season backs that up ( although you could argue the strikers haven't helped there).

I think he has been one of our better players recently, no doubt, but that maybe says more about how poor the rest of the team have been.

[Tambo]

Thought Henderson was poor in my opinion, never got into the game much.

[A Hi-Bee]

We will score another goal sometime, it stands to reason dont it?
:thumbsup:

[H18 SFR]

The biggest positive for me is this managerial experiment won’t last for ever.

We will get the next appointment right.

[SeanWilson]

Cadden has looked really good consistently. Mitchell, Mueller, Henderson and Jasper all looked good. Some really slick play in patches. Disappointing to lose again. But some real positives in there.

Cadden is like watching Forrest Gump! Need to get a Q card up on the big screens to let him know what to do with it!

[bigwheel]

We are so poor ..we now seem to have weekly “positives “ threads …

These positives listed above are just what we should expect of players . We are struggling big time . Hope we can find a way to get a few wins . Badly needed

[Greenbeard]

Striker wise absolutely honking, must have the worst forward line in the league surely.
And the thread title is........?

[wookie70]

Like the look of Mueller, not convinced with Henderson and too early to tell about Jasper and Mitchell. I can't see any way the players we have can play the system and style Maloney wants to play and it is hard to know what style we are playing at the moment.

The biggest positive is that a wee run of form could see us in Europe as we have been incredibly fortunate the way other results have went in the last month. St Johnstone and Dundee being that far behind is a massive bonus as this season is pretty reminiscent of the Fenlon/Butcher one. If they both beat us and pick up other results in the next month it could get messy very quickly

[worcesterhibby]

Cadden has looked really good consistently. Mitchell, Mueller, Henderson and Jasper all looked good. Some really slick play in patches. Disappointing to lose again. But some real positives in there.

Agree, I really hope we can get Melkerson playing and scoring and McGennis back. having two players who can score goals would make a big difference, I have to say the new signing look good on the whole.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Hearts lost

[Alfred E Newman]

Another positive for me is that we are now another game nearer the end of the season.

[Steve88]

And the thread title is........?

lol

You would be great on Catchphrase

[Steve88]

Another positive for me is that we are now another game nearer the end of the season.

This.

I genuinely thought that too

[loanheadhibby]

We don’t have to play Huns again this season.

[Since452]

Another positive for me is that we are now another game nearer the end of the season.

Exactly how I feel.

[Steve88]

Striker wise absolutely honking, must have the worst forward line in the league surely.

Honestly find it hilarious you posted thee most negative comment possible on this thread :faf:

[Smartie]

Stevenson played well - gives us another option in the weakest part of our team.

Our weaknesses are becoming abundantly clear, which should make solutions easier to come by.

Tonight probably wasn’t the sort of game that makes or breaks a season - I’m still more pissed off about the state of us in our previous half dozen games than I am about tonight.

Right, where’s the “negatives” thread…

[1875Sean]

Didn’t lay a glove on them, not a positive from today, 4 points away from 10th place

[bod]

The biggest positive for me is this managerial experiment won’t last for ever.

We will get the next appointment right.

Every appointment is an experiment only some last seasons not games

[Steve88]

Stevenson played well - gives us another option in the weakest part of our team.

Our weaknesses are becoming abundantly clear, which should make solutions easier to come by.

Tonight probably wasn’t the sort of game that makes or breaks a season - I’m still more pissed off about the state of us in our previous half dozen games than I am about tonight.

Right, where’s the “negatives” thread…

Don't worry, once we get to page 2 this'll turn dark as Fc*k and everyone will forget the title of the thread

[The 90+2]

If we are all honest the one and only positive was that the huns never got out first gear and we never got smashed.

[Glory Lurker]

Despite everything we can be confident “We Are the Champions” will be belted out from ER in May.

[noz]

Another positive for me is that we are now another game nearer the end of the season.

now thats funny…. 😄

[Stubbsy90+2]

The new signings all look improvements on a lot of the crap we were left with to varying degrees

[Itsnoteasy]

Hearts lost

And still 12 points ahead of us.

[Cookiehibs]

1. Thank god that game is out the way and we only lost by 2
2. Mueller and Jasper look better than average
3. Jambos have shipped 7 goals in two games

[Pagan Hibernia]

And still 12 points ahead of us.

:greengrin Now don’t you go bursting my bubble

[JohnM1875]

:agree: Great energy, but a lack of composure and end product. One assist for the season backs that up ( although you could argue the strikers haven't helped there).

I think he has been one of our better players recently, no doubt, but that maybe says more about how poor the rest of the team have been.

If our strikers had a brain between them he'd be on double figures for assists this season. Cadden is the very least of our problems.

[Musselbound]

Honestly find it hilarious you posted thee most negative comment possible on this thread :faf:

Hard to argue with it at the moment tho.

[B.H.F.C]

The only positive is we are two points of a European place.

[Steve88]

Hard to argue with it at the moment tho.

I don't disagree but I'm also just waiting for this place to explode because of it..:cb

[007]

We will score another goal sometime, it stands to reason dont it?
:thumbsup:

Maybe we should do something to help.

https://youtu.be/YBPYHAI4pqA

[LaMotta]

If our strikers had a brain between them he'd be on double figures for assists this season. Cadden is the very least of our problems.


I've quite clearly said he's been one of our better players so the "least of our problems" comment is strange. I also said the strikers could be partially to blame.

But whilst Cadden gets into good positions, he far too often fails to find a Hibs player - firing a ball into the box is not a good ball if there isn't a player there. Tonight he had the perfect chance to square the ball to a striker in a great position and he chose the wrong option again. No wonder he got pelters after that from Nisbet. There's no chance though that the strikers are to blame for him not having double figures in assists.

[Carheenlea]

Watched a suited Rangers fan step in a puddle on the road after game that was considerably deeper than what he probably anticipated.

[Chorley Hibee]

Watched a suited Rangers fan step in a puddle on the road after game that was considerably deeper than what he probably anticipated.

Now I wish I'd seen this! 🤣

[Unseen work]

A positive for me was that he changed from his 343 to 433/4231.

Not saying he should have, but the fact he’s willing to change and adapt is a good thing.

I do feel for Maloney with the amount of bad luck he’s had since he’s came in

Boyle - sold
Magennis - Injured again
Hanlon - injured
McGinn - injured
Macey - injured (although Dabrowski done brilliant)
Porteous & McGinn - suspended
Doig - injured
Clarke - injured
Newell - injured

He’s had alot of reshuffling to do in key areas. Would love to see what he’d have us like in a consistent team with our most important players available

[SteveHFC]

This is how 2022 has gone so far for Aberdeen, Hibs and Motherwell in the cinch Premiership. Remember, they were all in the top six:

Played 17
Won 0
Drawn 6
Lost 11
Goals scored 8
Goals against 28

One game played amongst them. A 0-0 draw between Hibs and Motherwell at Fir Park.

[Scooter]

Biggest positive would be Chris Mueller and to be fair the players that we have seen that Shaun has brought it look like they are decent/potentially good players. But I think Chris Mueller has something about him he should start every game

[Since452]

A positive for me was that he changed from his 343 to 433/4231.

Not saying he should have, but the fact he’s willing to change and adapt is a good thing.

I do feel for Maloney with the amount of bad luck he’s had since he’s came in

Boyle - sold
Magennis - Injured again
Hanlon - injured
McGinn - injured
Macey - injured (although Dabrowski done brilliant)
Porteous & McGinn - suspended
Doig - injured
Clarke - injured
Newell - injured

He’s had alot of reshuffling to do in key areas. Would love to see what he’d have us like in a consistent team with our most important players available

We've been crucified with injuries all season. Our previous manager had that and also had to get us through a Covid period, unable to field a team and the aftermath. Horrendous luck this season.

[Stubbsy90+2]

A positive for me was that he changed from his 343 to 433/4231.

Not saying he should have, but the fact he’s willing to change and adapt is a good thing.

I do feel for Maloney with the amount of bad luck he’s had since he’s came in

Boyle - sold
Magennis - Injured again
Hanlon - injured
McGinn - injured
Macey - injured (although Dabrowski done brilliant)
Porteous & McGinn - suspended
Doig - injured
Clarke - injured
Newell - injured

He’s had alot of reshuffling to do in key areas. Would love to see what he’d have us like in a consistent team with our most important players available

Losing Boyle has absolutely done us. We were a one man team with him and he absolutely dragged us to third last season and is the sole reason we’re not in line to get relegated this season. Everybody knew it and now that he’s gone it shows.

He was the best player outside the OF by a country mile and was never going to be able to be replaced. The minute he left we were on a hiding to nothing and it’ll take at least another window to get this squad up to any sort of decent standard.

[MWHIBBIES]

Losing Boyle has absolutely done us. We were a one man team with him and he absolutely dragged us to third last season and is the sole reason we’re not in line to get relegated this season. Everybody knew it and now that he’s gone it shows.

He was the best player outside the OF by a country mile and was never going to be able to be replaced. The minute he left we were on a hiding to nothing and it’ll take at least another window to get this squad up to any sort of decent standard.

He did not drag us to 3rd. That's not true whatsoever.

[Stubbsy90+2]

He did not drag us to 3rd. That's not true whatsoever.

Imo he did.

[heretoday]

He did not drag us to 3rd. That's not true whatsoever.

Agree. People seem to forget the frustrating performances he often put in.

[Stubbsy90+2]

Agree. People seem to forget the frustrating performances he often put in.

Boyle scored 29 goals in a season and a half. He probably had about another 20 assists on top of that.

As a winger, that’s almost unheard of in Scotland. Just because he didn’t perform or score absolutely every single game it doesn’t mean he didn’t drag us to third. We wouldn’t have been top 6 last season without him imo. I honestly don’t think I’ve seen a Hibs team rely on one player so much as we relied on Boyle for the past 18 months bar the Griffiths team.

[Stevie Reid]

Imo he did.

He absolutely did not. There were lots of positive contributions, Nisbet was our top scorer and Doidge scored as many as Boyle. Of course Boyle is a more creative player than those two, and he did create a lot last year.

However, it's easy to forget that after scoring two goals on the opening day of last season, he then scored once in his next 19 games. By the end of January he'd scored five, and then a superb end to the season saw him finish on 15 goals, and a decent number of assists.

There was loads of talk on here that after he'd signed that new contract last summer (with the buyout clause) that he was completely off it - take a look at this thread:

https://www.hibs.net/showthread.php?348985-Boyle&highlight=martin+boyle

There were plenty of others too, with titles such as 'What's up with Martin Boyle?'. I know it's a common thing on here for posters to diminish the achievements of managers they don't like by attributing their success to one player (Lennon and McGinn, for example), but we had a front three that scored over 50 goals between them last year. Two of them are still here.

Of course, Nisbet hasn't had a good season, and Doidge has been injured, whilst Boyle was in amazing form (though I'm surprised to see that he didn't score in any of his last ten games for us) - he was always going to be a huge loss for us, and therefore a big disadvantage to Maloney. But his loss alone is no excuse for our current predicament, just like he alone did not drag us to third last year.

[500miles]

The new signings all look improvements on a lot of the crap we were left with to varying degrees

Yet they finished 3rd, and this lot don't have a league win to thier name.

[Stubbsy90+2]

Yet they finished 3rd, and this lot don't have a league win to thier name.

They did. That’s in the past though. They’re not third now and haven’t looked good enough for third for about 6 months. Therefore the new guys look an improvement.

Shefki Kuqi played for Newcastle. He was terrible for Hibs though. Past achievements can’t live on forever. Football is about the here and now and the players that are hanging around the squad that were recruited when Ross was manager are by and large, absolutely dreadful.

[LaMotta]

Agree. People seem to forget the frustrating performances he often put in.

Even when he did put in a frustrating performance he still was valuable to the team in terms of offering an out ball, carrying the ball up the pitch and also winning numerous fouls, getting opposition players carded.

I think these benefits were often overlooked in assessments of him when he was deemed to have had a poor game.

[jacomo]

Even when he did put in a frustrating performance he still was valuable to the team in terms of offering an out ball, carrying the ball up the pitch and also winning numerous fouls, getting opposition players carded.

I think these benefits were often overlooked in assessments of him when he was deemed to have had a poor game.


Absolutely - our last league game v Sevco, for example, when Boyle didn’t score but he was a worry for them all game, to the point that Morelos was subbed off because he wasn’t getting any service.

However, on a positive… we signed a direct replacement for our most valuable player in the same window, which doesn’t always happen!

Jasper isn’t exactly the same as Squirrel but he is a quick and direct winger with potential.

[ahibby]

We will have a very strong run towards the end of the season so strong the OF will find us a handfull.

[loanheadhibby]

We will have a very strong run towards the end of the season so strong the OF will find us a handfull.
I take it you are kidding?

[The Modfather]

He did not drag us to 3rd. That's not true whatsoever.

I don’t think he dragged us to 3rd last season but do feel we were the Martin Boyle team this season and nothing else.

[TObeachesHibby]

there is no positive. Not scoring goals and even looking like doing so is basic. Need 2 up front from the start as there is less service with Boyle gone. Nisbet cannot do it himself and Doidge is not contributing .The game changes when who scores first - time for Maloney to realise that.

[ahibby]

I take it you are kidding?

Mibbies aye mibbies naw.

[degenerated]

Imo he did.How many of the games did he play in that horrendous run that got Ross sacked?