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SHODAN
09-02-2022, 03:24 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60312876

A video emerged recently of him abusing his cat and they have now been taken from him. Despite this he played for West Ham yesterday.

Abusing a defenceless trusting animal - particularly a cat - is one thing that really enrages me and I can't even bring myself to watch the video. Utterly sickening behaviour.

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 03:26 PM
Surprised nobody has mentioned it yet 😲

Wilson
09-02-2022, 03:31 PM
Sure it said on BBC that the RSPCA have removed his cats on the back of this.

JimBHibees
09-02-2022, 03:32 PM
Sure it said on BBC that the RSPCA have removed his cats on the back of this.

Assume he will be charged with something. Got to be said bad enough doing the abuse but wtf would you record and then publicise it. Very weird

MWHIBBIES
09-02-2022, 03:33 PM
Dunno why he wouldn't play. Unless he's in trouble with the police, which he wasn't last night. He's not gonna get the jail for this.

We played Newell after he drove drunk. And Boyle.

HoboHarry
09-02-2022, 03:37 PM
Assume he will be charged with something. Got to be said bad enough doing the abuse but wtf would you record and then publicise it. Very weird
No level of football talent and wealth will prevent acts of rank stupidity.

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 03:38 PM
Dunno why he wouldn't play. Unless he's in trouble with the police, which he wasn't last night. He's not gonna get the jail for this.

We played Newell after he drove drunk. And Boyle.

I'll let you take the flack MW 😉

hibee316
09-02-2022, 03:43 PM
Dunno why he wouldn't play. Unless he's in trouble with the police, which he wasn't last night. He's not gonna get the jail for this.

We played Newell after he drove drunk. And Boyle.

It is an odd one.

Both Boyle and Newell were very fortunate not to have seriously hurt or killed someone with their actions.

A level of hypocrisy at play here?

The Zouma video is utterly disgusting to watch though.
If he thinks it's okay to treat a cat like that, where does he draw the line with how he treats his family?

big gogs
09-02-2022, 03:44 PM
Assume he will be charged with something. Got to be said bad enough doing the abuse but wtf would you record and then publicise it. Very weird
According to the radio,he has been fined by his club,two weeks wages ,£250.000.hope it goes to animal charities.

cabbageandribs1875
09-02-2022, 03:46 PM
fined £250k by his club = two weeks salary

Nicho87
09-02-2022, 03:48 PM
fined £250k by his club = two weeks salary

Ridiculous wages for a average player

With that kind of money we could be getting another B team player.

WeeRussell
09-02-2022, 04:04 PM
It is an odd one.

Both Boyle and Newell were very fortunate not to have seriously hurt or killed someone with their actions.

A level of hypocrisy at play here?

The Zouma video is utterly disgusting to watch though.
If he thinks it's okay to treat a cat like that, where does he draw the line with how he treats his family?

Presumably, like many, he doesn’t have the same love and regard for animal life as he does human beings. (Most others manage to refrain from physically abusing them though).

As deplorable as the video is, I don’t think there’s any call to assume his family are at risk because of it.

Jim44
09-02-2022, 04:10 PM
Dunno why he wouldn't play. Unless he's in trouble with the police, which he wasn't last night. He's not gonna get the jail for this.

We played Newell after he drove drunk. And Boyle.

This case won't just be shrugged off. He might be in trouble with the police. This was discussed on the Jeremy Vine programme today. Chris Packham and others contributed and suggestions were being made that this will grow arms and legs. They were all crying out for the case to be taken as high as possible and they were talking about potential legal action with a maximum sentence of 5 years imprisonment. It probably won’t go as far as that but I think the clown is in deep doo!

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 04:17 PM
£250k fine from the club for what he did is a little extreme in my opinion.

MWHIBBIES
09-02-2022, 04:20 PM
Ridiculous wages for a average player

With that kind of money we could be getting another B team player.

He's a very good player tbh. Looked like one of the worlds top young defenders before bad injuries.

Absolute tit for what he's done, but I can't see it being taken far. Will blow over.

patch1875
09-02-2022, 04:21 PM
Don’t ***** with cats. You don’t want to get on the wrong side of cat people.

Horrible individual for doing that least some charity’s will benefit from it.

Pagan Hibernia
09-02-2022, 04:22 PM
£250k fine from the club for what he did is a little extreme in my opinion.

I personally think he should be arrested and placed on some kind of register.

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 04:25 PM
I personally think he should be arrested and placed on some kind of register.

Probably on the career path to be a serial killer. 🤔

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 04:27 PM
I personally think he should be arrested and placed on some kind of register.
Going by that, i should be serving life then, i killed my pet white mouse when i was a kid, never realised they did not like going round the wheel that fast.

Sir David Gray
09-02-2022, 04:27 PM
I personally think he should be arrested and placed on some kind of register.

:agree:

I personally think if this incident is concluded with him receiving a two week fine from his club and his cats confiscated then he should consider himself quite fortunate.

Disgusting actions and I personally think David Moyes should be disappointed with himself for choosing to play Zouma last night.

It's always been said that the abuse of animals is often how psychopaths start out and whilst I'm not suggesting he's going to turn into a serial killer, I definitely don't think the seriousness of this should be downplayed.

Since452
09-02-2022, 04:29 PM
If you assault a defenceless animal, especially a pet you are an utter ****bag in my opinion.

Pagan Hibernia
09-02-2022, 04:30 PM
Going by that, i should be serving life then, i killed my pet white mouse when i was a kid, never realised they did not like going round the wheel that fast.

:greengrin

I also killed a gerbil, accidentally. It’s haunted me ever since.

this guy, a 27 year old man, volley’d his cat across the kitchen. He should not be allowed to own an animal in future.

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 04:30 PM
Will nobody consider the felines of the cat? Probably got 8 lives left.

Jim44
09-02-2022, 04:31 PM
£250k fine from the club for what he did is a little extreme in my opinion.

What the club has done is neither here nor there. A club punishment, small or huge, will not interfere with legal procedures. The club’s belated action. I think, is to save face with their fans and the public who are outraged with this. Moyes appears to have made an error of judgement here.

cabbageandribs1875
09-02-2022, 04:31 PM
and here's Jason Kerr showing how to deal with a cat during last nights Sheff wed v Wigan game, are you watching Zoomer Zouma, nasty pos :agree:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft3A6o6oCMg

patch1875
09-02-2022, 04:33 PM
Adidas has dropped him now.

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 04:35 PM
What the club has done is neither here nor there. A club punishment, small or huge, will not interfere with legal procedures. The club’s belated action. I think, is to save face with their fans and the public who are outraged with this. Moyes appears to have made an error of judgement here.

We just need to keep our fingers crossed Jimmy Carr does not make a joke about this, we dont want this getting completely out of context.

Bridge hibs
09-02-2022, 04:38 PM
Adidas has dropped him now. *******s, Zouma kicks and throws the cat and they useless gits bloody drop it ! 🤬

grunt
09-02-2022, 04:44 PM
and here's Jason Kerr showing how to deal with a cat during last nights Sheff wed v Wigan game, are you watching Zoomer Zouma, nasty pos :agree:

Apparently this cat had been missing for 6 months and has now been reunited with its owner.

JamesHFC
09-02-2022, 04:45 PM
Someone put it pretty well on Twitter.

“Romelu Lukaku can be dropped, fined and made to do a video apology for an interview with Sky Italia, while Aubmeyang can be dropped, stripped of the captaincy and given a free transfer for being late. But Kurt Zouma is still yet to be punished for abusing a cat.”

Suppose he has faced repercussions for his actions since though. Morally wrong for West Ham to play him last night imo.

Unseen work
09-02-2022, 04:52 PM
Horrible, takes a horrible person to do that.

Jim44
09-02-2022, 04:52 PM
What this person did to a defenceless animal is bad enough, and I shudder to think what goes on behind closed doors, but to record the abuse and put it on to social media is horrific.

CropleyWasGod
09-02-2022, 05:02 PM
What this person did to a defenceless animal is bad enough, and I shudder to think what goes on behind closed doors, but to record the abuse and put it on to social media is horrific.

This is the bit that I don't understand. Did he post it himself?

If he did, there's so many issues to unpack....

Sir David Gray
09-02-2022, 05:03 PM
This is the bit that I don't understand. Did he post it himself?

If he did, there's so many issues to unpack....

It was his brother.

WoreTheGreen
09-02-2022, 05:15 PM
It was his brother.

I think he posted on litter

zitelli62
09-02-2022, 05:20 PM
Hopefully someone gives him a career ending injury animal cruelty is disgusting I'm sure there are a few cat loving players got there eye on him now utter s*****g.

hibee316
09-02-2022, 05:22 PM
Presumably, like many, he doesn’t have the same love and regard for animal life as he does human beings. (Most others manage to refrain from physically abusing them though).

As deplorable as the video is, I don’t think there’s any call to assume his family are at risk because of it.

A lot of recent research would argue in the contrary.

Also, there is a young child present when he takes a massive swipe at it, which is normalising violence for them. (a kid that age isn't going to be able to accurately separate the difference between hurting a "loved" family pet and another human).
Could be viewed as a sign of neglect as well!

AugustaHibs
09-02-2022, 05:22 PM
What he did was horrific but there is some amount of overreacting going on around social media.

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 05:25 PM
It was his brother.

Was it his thinner brother?

hibee316
09-02-2022, 05:27 PM
What he did was horrific but there is some amount of overreacting going on around social media.

Think you have underestimated the feelings folk have for something that is perceived as defenseless.

tomhorn
09-02-2022, 05:35 PM
Think you have underestimated the feelings folk have for something that is perceived as defenseless.


Correct and also pish form folk trying to make jokes about it here.

David Moyes got it wrong too and proves that it's results and money before morals in football and always has been.

Jim44
09-02-2022, 05:37 PM
I think he posted on litter

I take it that’s a typo. Otherwise it’s poor taste. :rolleyes:

ekhibee
09-02-2022, 05:37 PM
This is the bit that I don't understand. Did he post it himself?

If he did, there's so many issues to unpack....

It's his brother who can be heard laughing while he's filming it, sick *******

Zouma also slapped the cat really hard in the face. Lovely guy.

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 05:39 PM
I take it that’s a typo. Otherwise it’s poor taste. :rolleyes:

I thought it was funny, if it was meant, maybe change my name to Jimmy Carr. 🤔

Dalianwanda
09-02-2022, 05:42 PM
£250k fine from the club for what he did is a little extreme in my opinion.

2 weeks wages for promoting animal torture…the video he has created will no doubt embolden other ****bags to do the same…it’s lenient

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 05:55 PM
2 weeks wages for promoting animal torture…the video he has created will no doubt embolden other ****bags to do the same…it’s lenient

How did he promote it?

tomhorn
09-02-2022, 05:56 PM
£250k fine from the club for what he did is a little extreme in my opinion.

Seriously? So there is a £ amount that you can put on this that makes it ok?



How is that calculated then?

Anything short of sacking him immediately and reporting him to the police is beyond contempt.

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 05:58 PM
Seriously? So there is a £ amount that you can put on this that makes it ok?



How is that calculated then?

Anything short of sacking him immediately and reporting him to the police is beyond contempt.

Would you be fined £250k for doing it, who has said what he did was ok?

Dalianwanda
09-02-2022, 06:01 PM
How did he promote it?

By allowing himself to be filmed then shared doing it. Thought that was pretty obvious.

tomhorn
09-02-2022, 06:06 PM
Would you be fined £250k for doing it, who has said what he did was ok?

Nah but I don't earn £250k a fortnight. It's 2% of his annual salary.

So when you say it's a bit much, I mean if they fined him say, £250 you reckon that would be closer to not being a bit extreme?


Is your point that it's a legal matter and should be dealt with in a legal capacity and not actually the for an employer to dish out any punishment?

Genuinely wondering

Since452
09-02-2022, 06:07 PM
I thought it was funny, if it was meant, maybe change my name to Jimmy Carr. 🤔

About as funny as your attempts.

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 06:12 PM
Nah but I don't earn £250k a fortnight. It's 2% of his annual salary.

So when you say it's a bit much, I mean if they fined him say, £250 you reckon that would be closer to not being a bit extreme?


Is your point that it's a legal matter and should be dealt with in a legal capacity and not actually the for an employer to dish out any punishment?

Genuinely wondering

I genuinely think the club have fined him two weeks wages, that is apparently £250k is ridiculous and completely over the top for what he did.

I dont care that his wages are more than what you or i earn, it's just ludicrous that if you or i had done it, we would have been fined a 4 or 5 hundred quid at most and banned from owning a cat.

What happened to that old biddy who locked a cat in a dustbin?

HUTCHYHIBBY
09-02-2022, 06:23 PM
By allowing himself to be filmed then shared doing it. Thought that was pretty obvious.

Is that the way social media works? You ever tried to tell someone not to take your pic cos they want a few radge likes on their feed, it's next to impossible.

tomhorn
09-02-2022, 06:25 PM
I genuinely think the club have fined him two weeks wages, that is apparently £250k is ridiculous and completely over the top for what he did.

I dont care that his wages are more than what you or i earn, it's just ludicrous that if you or i had done it, we would have been fined a 4 or 5 hundred quid at most and banned from owning a cat.

What happened to that old biddy who locked a cat in a dustbin?

I suppose I can't get my head around the concept that there is some sort of cash value that is deemed as acceptable or not. Surely nothing less than punting him and never paying him another penny of their supporters hard earned is the only answer here?

CropleyWasGod
09-02-2022, 06:37 PM
I genuinely think the club have fined him two weeks wages, that is apparently £250k is ridiculous and completely over the top for what he did.

I dont care that his wages are more than what you or i earn, it's just ludicrous that if you or i had done it, we would have been fined a 4 or 5 hundred quid at most and banned from owning a cat.

What happened to that old biddy who locked a cat in a dustbin?

I think we're almost back in the David Goodwillie argument. This is about recognising that footballers, whether they like it or not, are role models for so many young people. Fining him that amount (which, I think, is the maximum allowed) sends out a clear signal to those who would look up to him that treating an animal like that in front of a child is just not acceptable. It's not about the amount, it's about the message.

There's also a cynical view that says any action by the club might help reduce the chance of Court punishment.

Dalianwanda
09-02-2022, 06:37 PM
Is that the way social media works? You ever tried to tell someone not to take your pic cos they want a few radge likes on their feed, it's next to impossible.

It was his brother in his gaff not a random 'radge' Kurt Zouma is not a normal dude, hes a famous footballer with influence....Do you think he didnt know he was being filmed? Its lucky he was as now he's been found out & the animals are out of harms way (which is really the important thing).

Jim44
09-02-2022, 06:42 PM
I get the impression that some folk here think that just because his club has ‘punished’ him, the matter’s closed. Far from it. The club fine is meaningless in the eyes of the law. If and when legal action is taken, the club sanction won’t be taken into account.

The Baldmans Comb
09-02-2022, 07:03 PM
Someone I have never remotely heard of has been fined £250,000 for abusing a cat is just mental and people are actually talking about this throughout social media.

English society and its morals are just weird though obviously this guy and his family members all have serious problems.

Since452
09-02-2022, 07:43 PM
Someone I have never remotely heard of has been fined £250,000 for abusing a cat is just mental and people are actually talking about this throughout social media.

English society and its morals are just weird though obviously this guy and his family members all have serious problems.

I'd expect to be banged up if I posted a video of me leathering my Lab. Brain-dead idiot who obviously doesn't have any empathy. Club was right to fine him 250k. All relative though. He'll just need to settle for another quarter of a million in the bank this month.

Lendo
09-02-2022, 07:45 PM
I can’t comprehend how anyone could do this to an animal. I love my cat more than every member of my immediate family.

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 07:46 PM
I'd expect to be banged up if I posted a video of me leathering my Lab. Brain-dead idiot who obviously doesn't have any empathy. Club was right to fine him 250k. All relative though. He'll just need to settle for another quarter of a million in the bank this month.

Just looked up that woman that put the cat in the dustbin for 15 hours, £250 fine.

hibsbollah
09-02-2022, 07:54 PM
Going by that, i should be serving life then, i killed my pet white mouse when i was a kid, never realised they did not like going round the wheel that fast.

:faf:

tomhorn
09-02-2022, 07:54 PM
Just looked up that woman that put the cat in the dustbin for 15 hours, £250 fine.

What a very strange thing to focus on.

Since452
09-02-2022, 07:55 PM
Just looked up that woman that put the cat in the dustbin for 15 hours, £250 fine.

She probably wasn't earning a half a million pounds a month.

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 07:59 PM
What a very strange thing to focus on.

To be fair, you are focusing on it more than me, i'm puting it out there that a woman tortured a cat for 15 hours and was only fined £250, not jailed as some want Zouma to be.

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 08:01 PM
She probably wasn't earning a half a million pounds a month.

Ah so you are one of those who do think there is a price on his crime.

Hibiza
09-02-2022, 08:02 PM
A cat's a cat fir aw that .

Lee Marvin
09-02-2022, 08:04 PM
Just looked up that woman that put the cat in the dustbin for 15 hours, £250 fine.

You are having a shocker on this thread.

So I presume you think Zouma should have been fined a few hundred quid?

tomhorn
09-02-2022, 08:05 PM
To be fair, you are focusing on it more than me, i'm puting it out there that a woman tortured a cat for 15 hours and was only fined £250, not jailed as some want Zouma to be.

You brought her up not me.

blackpoolhibs
09-02-2022, 08:08 PM
You are having a shocker on this thread.

So I presume you think Zouma should have been fined a few hundred quid?

Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.

Pagan Hibernia
09-02-2022, 08:47 PM
Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.

I think the point should be that that was a ridiculously lenient punishment for that woman, rather than the dickhead footballer’s being too harsh.

hibee316
09-02-2022, 08:54 PM
Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.

Nothing ridiculous about it.

West Ham would lose a hell of a lot more in loss of sponsorship if they didn't fine him that amount.

You only have to look at who has come out to condemn it so far.

The only reason he he gets paid that ridiculous sum is because companies pay huge sums of money to be associated with big teams like West Ham.

Not many sponsors want to be associated with someone who thinks its okay to do that to a living creature, however.

Lee Marvin
09-02-2022, 08:56 PM
Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.

While we are at it let's just tax everyone the same!!

CropleyWasGod
09-02-2022, 09:31 PM
Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.

There's a French law that applies to mistreatment of animals outside France. A complaint has been made against him under that law.

He could get 4 years jail.

neil7908
09-02-2022, 11:15 PM
There's a French law that applies to mistreatment of animals outside France. A complaint has been made against him under that law.

He could get 4 years jail.

Here's hoping.

cameronw-hfc
09-02-2022, 11:55 PM
I sincerely hope the severity of treatment the Greenwood and Zouma and Goodwillie situations are an indication of people taking footballers actions more seriously.

Too many get away with abhorrent behaviour that in any other walk of life would be sackable and end up walking away with next to nothing being done about it. Glad to see action being taken on idiots in the game, unfortunately I doubt it'll continue.

Baader
10-02-2022, 01:55 AM
Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.

Not how it works, thankfully.

blackpoolhibs
10-02-2022, 07:21 AM
There's a French law that applies to mistreatment of animals outside France. A complaint has been made against him under that law.

He could get 4 years jail.

He wont get time in the pokey, they will just make an example out of him and fine him another ridiculous amount of money and it will all be forgotten in a week.

Meanwhile, the rest of us will quite rightly face fines up to £5k.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fines-of-up-to-5000-for-animal-offences-proposed-under-new-penalty-notices-bill

Caversham Green
10-02-2022, 08:08 AM
Just looked up that woman that put the cat in the dustbin for 15 hours, £250 fine.

You're comparing apples and oranges here. That woman was fined by the authorities but we don't know how her employer (if she had one) treated her. It's West Ham who chose to stop Zouma's wages for two weeks but we don't yet know how the authorities will treat him. It's unlikely to be a huge fine in the context of his ability to pay though, which makes it a bit pointless.

More comparable is the teacher who was recently filmed punching a horse - she was sacked.

tomhorn
10-02-2022, 08:23 AM
You're comparing apples and oranges here. That woman was fined by the authorities but we don't know how her employer (if she had one) treated her. It's West Ham who chose to stop Zouma's wages for two weeks but we don't yet know how the authorities will treat him. It's unlikely to be a huge fine in the context of his ability to pay though, which makes it a bit pointless.

More comparable is the teacher who was recently filmed punching a horse - she was sacked.

Great points.

The bottom line here is that his value to his employer in terms of what he can do for them means that they have decided not to do the decent and right thing. Moyes is complicit in this and his decision to play him afterwards is absolutely shameful.

blackpoolhibs
10-02-2022, 08:24 AM
You're comparing apples and oranges here. That woman was fined by the authorities but we don't know how her employer (if she had one) treated her. It's West Ham who chose to stop Zouma's wages for two weeks but we don't yet know how the authorities will treat him. It's unlikely to be a huge fine in the context of his ability to pay though, which makes it a bit pointless.

More comparable is the teacher who was recently filmed punching a horse - she was sacked.

I do understand that, i just think the fine is ridiculous, and if he was sacked he couldnt have any argument, although we all know in football, if he's a good player and worth money, he wont be sacked for doing something like this, but if he was a youth player worth peanuts he'd have been sacked the same day.

Oscar T Grouch
10-02-2022, 08:28 AM
I do understand that, i just think the fine is ridiculous, and if he was sacked he couldnt have any argument, although we all know in football, if he's a good player and worth money, he wont be sacked for doing something like this, but if he was a youth player worth peanuts he'd have been sacked the same day.

His fine wasn’t for kicking a cat or abusing an animal, I very much doubt those clauses are in his contract. What he’s been fined for is bringing the good name of West Ham into disrepute, which is in his contract and is perfect ok and in no way whatsoever ridiculous.

blackpoolhibs
10-02-2022, 08:31 AM
His fine wasn’t for kicking a cat or abusing an animal, I very much doubt those clauses are in his contract. What he’s been fined for is bringing the good name of West Ham into disrepute, which is in his contract and is perfect ok and in no way whatsoever ridiculous.

I do know that, i just disagree. He will face court action for what he's done.

Oscar T Grouch
10-02-2022, 08:37 AM
I do know that, i just disagree. He will face court action for what he's done.

You disagree with the contract he signed? You disagree he’s brought disrepute to West Ham? If not one of those two options there’s nothing to disagree with.

Caversham Green
10-02-2022, 08:40 AM
I do understand that, i just think the fine is ridiculous, and if he was sacked he couldnt have any argument, although we all know in football, if he's a good player and worth money, he wont be sacked for doing something like this, but if he was a youth player worth peanuts he'd have been sacked the same day.

The 'fine' was only that high because he's paid so much - it won't really cause him much hardship. On the other hand the horse puncher lost her livelihood and we don't know what effect the £250 fine had on the cat binner but I wouldn't be at all surprised if it caused her more financial pain than Zouma's £250k.

The whole point of fines is to be punitive and in Zouma's case the maximum possible legal fine would not be and two weeks wages won't be that tough for him either. The public disgrace is likely to be more painful and I can't say I feel much sympathy for him there.

jacomo
10-02-2022, 08:46 AM
Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.


Zouma has attracted bad headlines for his club, for totally needless, thoughtless and cruel behaviour.

He earns enormous money mostly because media companies pay enormous sums to screen EPL matches. Now those same media companies write negative stories linked to West Ham because of him.

You can bet the club are fuming and probably want to fine him even more.

I don’t think they should have played him the other night either, although Moyes has shown previously he’s a bit deaf to public opinion.

Since452
10-02-2022, 09:14 AM
I think he's an extremely lucky boy to still be at the club. If a Hibs player did that to a cat my daughter would be heartbroken and i'd think he was a prick for ever more. In the mad world of the EPL and social media image and PR is everything. That kind of damage to the clubs reputation isn't easy to fix. Like others have said, similar actions have got people the sack in the "real world". Fining him two weeks wages is a superb result for him.

hibsbollah
10-02-2022, 09:15 AM
Zouma has attracted bad headlines for his club, for totally needless, thoughtless and cruel behaviour.

He earns enormous money mostly because media companies pay enormous sums to screen EPL matches. Now those same media companies write negative stories linked to West Ham because of him.

You can bet the club are fuming and probably want to fine him even more.

I don’t think they should have played him the other night either, although Moyes has shown previously he’s a bit deaf to public opinion.

It’s hard to believe Moyes played him. Really disappointed to see that.

Coco Bryce
10-02-2022, 09:22 AM
It’s hard to believe Moyes played him. Really disappointed to see that.

Why? He made him work even though they had taken his wages off him :greengrin

hibsbollah
10-02-2022, 09:34 AM
Why? He made him work even though they had taken his wages off him :greengrin

Just terrible PR for the club and sends a message that the club aren’t bothered about morality. I get your :greengrin smiley so I know you get it. My cat is horrified by the whole thing and has started boycotting west ham merchandise. I told her to start a purr tition.

:tumble:

WeeRussell
10-02-2022, 12:22 PM
A lot of recent research would argue in the contrary.

Also, there is a young child present when he takes a massive swipe at it, which is normalising violence for them. (a kid that age isn't going to be able to accurately separate the difference between hurting a "loved" family pet and another human).
Could be viewed as a sign of neglect as well!

What research is going to convince me that he must be abusing his family because he booted a cat?

He’s a d1ck for it don’t get me wrong.

WeeRussell
10-02-2022, 12:23 PM
I should also add that this is not the thread for puns, which I am usually a fan of.

They’ve clearly already hurt a few people’s felines.

hibee316
10-02-2022, 04:54 PM
What research is going to convince me that he must be abusing his family because he booted a cat?

He’s a d1ck for it don’t get me wrong.

I don't think any research should convince you that he must be abusing his family.

That's not what I said though.

hibsbollah
10-02-2022, 06:08 PM
I should also add that this is not the thread for puns, which I am usually a fan of.

They’ve clearly already hurt a few people’s felines.

You’re a whisker away from being inappropriate there :grr:

cabbageandribs1875
10-02-2022, 08:32 PM
i see his brother has been suspended by Dagenham and Redbridge, the other dafty that thought it funny to film it, another west ham sponsor has suspended their sponsorship with the club, i imagine once things die down they will reinstate it

Iggy Pope
10-02-2022, 08:38 PM
Do you know what, i have no idea what he will be fined, remember this is his club that have fined him, not the courts.

What i do think though, is £250k is ridiculous, and he will also be punished by the courts, but if a woman can torture a cat for 15 hours, and only be fined £250, Zouma should get similar.

No fines. They should both have got a stiff kicking until senseless.

There, that’s better.

basehibby
10-02-2022, 11:25 PM
£250k fine from the club for what he did is a little extreme in my opinion.

Serves him right - he's a ****ing disgrace - and an overpaid disgrace at that.

As it goes it may end up helping him - and his club - if he ends up in front of a magistrate as a result of this.

Two weeks wages to the idiot Zouma - but more than likely well in excess of any fine the courts would hand down.

basehibby
10-02-2022, 11:31 PM
Apparently this cat had been missing for 6 months and has now been reunited with its owner.

If that's the case it's even worse - nick someone else's cat and then terrorise it (and teach yer kid to do it as well) - the guy's an absolute moron!

SHODAN
11-02-2022, 09:29 AM
His brother, who plays for Dagenham, has been suspended pending an investigation.

If anyone stole and then abused one of my cats there would be hell to pay.

grunt
11-02-2022, 09:33 AM
If that's the case it's even worse - nick someone else's cat and then terrorise it (and teach yer kid to do it as well) - the guy's an absolute moron!


If anyone stole and then abused one of my cats there would be hell to pay.

No, I was talking about this cat ...


and here's Jason Kerr showing how to deal with a cat during last nights Sheff wed v Wigan game, are you watching Zoomer Zouma, nasty pos :agree:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft3A6o6oCMg