Why does Maloney insist on them playing around our box

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I don't get this. Other teams can see we are not comfortable, and are exploiting that. Surely I can't be the only person seeing that.

[Vault Boy]

Totally agree, the goal we conceded we were asking for all game. We don't have the players to persist with this style. We need to mix it and play forward faster.

[Greencore]

For attacking minded football we seem very predicable. Just pass to cadden to make a cross and play from the wing backs. If that fails give the ball to Campbell to make a wrong pass.

[blackpoolhibs]

Its the sign of a stubborn manager, a decent guy who knows what he's doing ould adapt to the players he has available, then bring in that way of playing gradually when he has players who are comfortable doing what he's asking them to do.

He better learn quickly or he will be hounded out.

[Wull]

Today's goal sits with Lewis throw in, wtf was he thinking, JDH was instantly swamped by 3 players, OK he should have done better, but he should not have been put in that position

[Heisenberg]

Totally agree, the goal we conceded we were asking for all game. We don't have the players to persist with this style. We need to mix it and play forward faster.

Yep. We got caught three or four times in the first half and they finally punished us for it in the second.

[Unseen work]

In fairness I don’t blame Maloney for that goal.

That was an easy throw in to a centre mid/thrower who was extremely weak and careless. That could have happened under any manager.

[Northernhibee]

In fairness I don’t blame Maloney for that goal.

That was an easy throw in to a centre mid/thrower who was extremely weak and careless. That could have happened under any manager.

The problems come when they repeat themselves and the goals we conceded against Livi were absolutely terrible goals to lose too.

[Unseen work]

The problems come when they repeat themselves and the goals we conceded against Livi were absolutely terrible goals to lose too.

Agreed they were horrible but 2 were poor defending from set pieces and the other was Campbell carelessly getting caught at the half way line.

On occasion we overplay and whilst that can come down to Maloney I think the players also have to be more careful in possession. Today and Livi was just hugely careless imo.

[IberianHibernian]

Yep. We got caught three or four times in the first half and they finally punished us for it in the second.Exactly . Could easily have been punished several times for sloppy defensive play in first half . Terrible mistake by JDH and happened at a time when we`d finally been dominating match but felt a bit sorry for him as I thought he was one of the few of our players ( him , Muller and Rocky maybe ) who had played well up to then .

[The 90+2]

Because he’s stubborn. His assistant is also stubborn and arrogant.

[MWHIBBIES]

I don't mind the theory. It's the best way to win football matches. It's just does not suit our current players and Maloney isn't very good at coaching it so far

[Alfred E Newman]

I don't mind the theory. It's the best way to win football matches. It's just does not suit our current players and Maloney isn't very good at coaching it so far

You don't win matches in your own box, you win them in the other teams box and that is where we are piss poor.

[MWHIBBIES]

You don't win matches in your own box, you win them in the other teams box and that is where we are piss poor.

I know that, but the best way of getting consistently to the opposition box is playing from the back

[matty_f]

Today's goal sits with Lewis throw in, wtf was he thinking, JDH was instantly swamped by 3 players, OK he should have done better, but he should not have been put in that position

JDH was surrounded by one player, who took the ball from him and then scored. Hee-haw wrong with the throw in, imho.

[Jonnyboy]

Today's goal sits with Lewis throw in, wtf was he thinking, JDH was instantly swamped by 3 players, OK he should have done better, but he should not have been put in that position

Really? Only one player I reckon

[Hiber-nation]

JDH was surrounded by one player, who took the ball from him and then scored. Hee-haw wrong with the throw in, imho.

Agree, didn't think Lewis was great distribution-wise today but the goal had absolutely nothing to do with him.

[gaz1875]

In fairness I don’t blame Maloney for that goal.

That was an easy throw in to a centre mid/thrower who was extremely weak and careless. That could have happened under any manager.

The throw in was fine, the control by the receiving player on the other hand :rolleyes:

[wookie70]

I know that, but the best way of getting consistently to the opposition box is playing from the backOur best chance of the game came from a long ball. The first half against Hearts we were pressed and played quicker and longer and looked much more dangerous. It has to be natural playing passes in tight areas in your own third. It looks forced and you can lose games, like today and last week, by giving cheap possession away close to your goal

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

The concept of playing from the back is great when it works, but I'm not sure we have the players to implement it. The first half today there were several times we just got away with it, it's a risky business, there are times you just have to clear your lines.

Failing to take our chances whilst giving the opposition guilt edged chances like today are only going to result in one thing. We shot ourselves in the foot today.

[Zambernardi1875]

Reminds me of John Collins, teams finally cottoned on and pressed high and won the ball back, hearts are some what successful at playing like rugby, getting it high into touch winning throw ins and corners. The risk v reward at playing out the back will never work in Scottish football.

[GreenCastle]

Reminds me of John Collins, teams finally cottoned on and pressed high and won the ball back, hearts are some what successful at playing like rugby, getting it high into touch winning throw ins and corners. The risk v reward at playing out the back will never work in Scottish football.

Celtic have nailed it but have a much higher calibre level of player. Whether Celtics style will work in Europe is another question.

The issue we have is the fancy stuff out the back is fine if the midfield can actually get on the ball and make something happen or if the wife players are creative with end product - again think Celtic against Rangers outwide.

Our central midfielders also don’t assist or score goals so we are very predictable to play against and opposition teams will love playing us as they know one mistake which usually happens in 90 mins will give them a good chance to score.

[Shrekko]

Its the sign of a stubborn manager, a decent guy who knows what he's doing ould adapt to the players he has available, then bring in that way of playing gradually when he has players who are comfortable doing what he's asking them to do.

He better learn quickly or he will be hounded out.

We are NEVER going to have the calibre of player to make this style work.

Celtic can get away with it because they are absolutely streets ahead of 10 other teams in terms of the quality of player they have. Even then they occasionally look vulnerable and drop tempo as the game goes on.

He is going to have to find a compromise and quick. Watching average players trying to play like top internationals is not entertaining and is not productive either. We’re not looking like scoring or winning against teams with far lower resources than us.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

We are NEVER going to have the calibre of player to make this style work.

Celtic can get away with it because they are absolutely streets ahead of 10 other teams in terms of the quality of player they have. Even then they occasionally look vulnerable and drop tempo as the game goes on.

He is going to have to find a compromise and quick. Watching average players trying to play like top internationals is not entertaining and is not productive either. We’re not looking like scoring or winning against teams with far lower resources than us.

This is exactly where I am at the moment, good post.

[Zambernardi1875]

Celtic have nailed it but have a much higher calibre level of player. Whether Celtics style will work in Europe is another question.

The issue we have is the fancy stuff out the back is fine if the midfield can actually get on the ball and make something happen or if the wife players are creative with end product - again think Celtic against Rangers outwide.

Our central midfielders also don’t assist or score goals so we are very predictable to play against and opposition teams will love playing us as they know one mistake which usually happens in 90 mins will give them a good chance to score.

Ofcourse Celtic have nailed it they spend 25mil this season. I agree with the post though, and maloney has to realise quick we aren’t a top European team. That’s my John Collins comparison, trying to implement his standard onto a mid level team won’t work every week, he might get the odd 80% possession at ibrox but not consistently. Give him a chance to have a reality check and adapt though

[MGmick]

Our manager is, I feel, on a bit of an ego trip. He's trying to play a game in the style of teams fielding some of the best players in the world with players who aren't equiped to emulate that. Meanwile our opponents employ a much more pragmatic approach and, given that it's much easier to destroy than create, stifle our forward efforts and profit from our failings at the back.

As the old saying goes, you can only **** with the dick you've got, and, I think, the sooner Maloney realises this the better it will be for him and, more importantly, Hibs.

[FitbaFolkKen]

Goodwin just said that he knew we would do it and that they set traps for us based on that.


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[cabbageandribs1875]

Goodwin just said that he knew we would do it and that they set traps for us based on that.


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i think martindale worked us out last week

[matty_f]

Goodwin just said that he knew we would do it and that they set traps for us based on that.


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Goodwin relied heavily on his goalkeeper playing well and our strikers continuing their barren run. On another day his tactical genius would have seen the traps he was setting cost his team 3 or 4 goals.

[Gloucester Hibs]

We are NEVER going to have the calibre of player to make this style work.

Celtic can get away with it because they are absolutely streets ahead of 10 other teams in terms of the quality of player they have. Even then they occasionally look vulnerable and drop tempo as the game goes on.

He is going to have to find a compromise and quick. Watching average players trying to play like top internationals is not entertaining and is not productive either. We’re not looking like scoring or winning against teams with far lower resources than us.

Said it after the Celtic game, this playing out front the back especially from goal kicks will never work for a side of our calibre. Even the lesser EPL teams try this week in week out and end up with egg on their face. Only the very elite sides manage it to any great effect. Worrying Maloney hasn’t realised this yet.