Is the Edinburgh Derby now Scottish football’s premier fixture?

[Carheenlea]

When you saw Easter Road last night full and with a large visiting support, it struck me that you could argue that Hibs v Hearts is now the premier fixture in Scotland.

An atmosphere fuelled by having a full end of Hearts supporters and giving the match a sense of occasion now lost with the Old Firm. The pre match build up was befitting of the occasion and for Hibs and Hearts, there is more at stake in a derby than for Rangers and Celtic. In the sense that neither Hibs or Hearts are winning countless silverware which makes a derby victory more important and supporters revel in such until the next time.

The songs sung in the stadium are largely free of the hate filled Old Firm songbooks with little footballing context, but the atmosphere in an Edinburgh derby while combative, it usually manages to avoid becoming too poisonous.

As long as the Old Firm continue their away fan lock-outs or allocations of a few hundred, then it is second behind the Edinburgh derby as the premier fixture in the SPFL.

[JamesHFC]

I believe the next Edinburgh Derby hasn’t even been selected for coverage by Sky.

[The 90+2]

I believe the next Edinburgh Derby hasn’t even been selected for coverage by Sky.


This is correct. They are showing the huns in Paisley.

[Colr]

When you saw Easter Road last night full and with a large visiting support, it struck me that you could argue that Hibs v Hearts is now the premier fixture in Scotland.

An atmosphere fuelled by having a full end of Hearts supporters and giving the match a sense of occasion now lost with the Old Firm. The pre match build up was befitting of the occasion and for Hibs and Hearts, there is more at stake in a derby than for Rangers and Celtic. In the sense that neither Hibs or Hearts are winning countless silverware which makes a derby victory more important and supporters revel in such until the next time.

The songs sung in the stadium are largely free of the hate filled Old Firm songbooks with little footballing context, but the atmosphere in an Edinburgh derby while combative, it usually manages to avoid becoming too poisonous.

As long as the Old Firm continue their away fan lock-outs or allocations of a few hundred, then it is second behind the Edinburgh derby as the premier fixture in the SPFL.

And the oldest regularly played senior level derby in the world! (Maybe)

[MagicSwirlingShip]

I believe the next Edinburgh Derby hasn’t even been selected for coverage by Sky.

3pm Saturday Derby then?

[Sir David Gray]

3pm Saturday Derby then?

Yep.

[ionahibby]

Was only available as online commentary on radio scotland yesterday so not that premium to folk. I suspect outside hibs and hearts nobody is interested.

[HoboHarry]

The Glega inbreds (fans and tv producers) care as much about us as I care about them.

[JXM73]

No

[LaMotta]

When you saw Easter Road last night full and with a large visiting support, it struck me that you could argue that Hibs v Hearts is now the premier fixture in Scotland.

An atmosphere fuelled by having a full end of Hearts supporters and giving the match a sense of occasion now lost with the Old Firm. The pre match build up was befitting of the occasion and for Hibs and Hearts, there is more at stake in a derby than for Rangers and Celtic. In the sense that neither Hibs or Hearts are winning countless silverware which makes a derby victory more important and supporters revel in such until the next time.

The songs sung in the stadium are largely free of the hate filled Old Firm songbooks with little footballing context, but the atmosphere in an Edinburgh derby while combative, it usually manages to avoid becoming too poisonous.

As long as the Old Firm continue their away fan lock-outs or allocations of a few hundred, then it is second behind the Edinburgh derby as the premier fixture in the SPFL.

I would agree - it's unfortunate the last two have been goalless draws though which wont help the perception with some viewers.

[bod]

When you saw Easter Road last night full and with a large visiting support, it struck me that you could argue that Hibs v Hearts is now the premier fixture in Scotland.

An atmosphere fuelled by having a full end of Hearts supporters and giving the match a sense of occasion now lost with the Old Firm. The pre match build up was befitting of the occasion and for Hibs and Hearts, there is more at stake in a derby than for Rangers and Celtic. In the sense that neither Hibs or Hearts are winning countless silverware which makes a derby victory more important and supporters revel in such until the next time.

The songs sung in the stadium are largely free of the hate filled Old Firm songbooks with little footballing context, but the atmosphere in an Edinburgh derby while combative, it usually manages to avoid becoming too poisonous.

As long as the Old Firm continue their away fan lock-outs or allocations of a few hundred, then it is second behind the Edinburgh derby as the premier fixture in the SPFL.

No

[DH1875]

I believe the next Edinburgh Derby hasn’t even been selected for coverage by Sky.

Away? So how do we go about seeing it then?

[Lago]

Was only available as online commentary on radio scotland yesterday so not that premium to folk. I suspect outside hibs and hearts nobody is interested.
Unfortunately that's true, when I lived down South they only knew 2 clubs, you can guess which ones.

[Keith_M]

Is the Edinburgh Derby now Scottish football’s premier fixture?


Nah

[hibbyfraelibby]

Away? So how do we go about seeing it then?
If Sky have chosen do give it a miss you will be able to watch it as live on ALBA because sure as hell they wont pass up the opportunity to pick it up.

Ron could even beam it back

[HoboHarry]

Away? So how do we go about seeing it then?
I'll be watching it at my house - bring beer :greengrin

[Sir David Gray]

Away? So how do we go about seeing it then?

Hearts TV.

[Not In The Know]

I believe the next Edinburgh Derby hasn’t even been selected for coverage by Sky.
That’s mental. What chance have we got of growing the game up here when they don’t even show the derby.

[Steven79]

That’s mental. What chance have we got of growing the game up here when they don’t even show the derby.Only two teams matter...

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[JamesHFC]

Perhaps the club will organise for the game to be shown at the stadium for people to go along? Didn’t we do something similar earlier in the season, was that a success?

[Pagan Hibernia]

It’s the most important fixture to me and that’s all that matters

[DH1875]

Problem is, we have a 8 page thread with over 250 posts on it about a game we dont care about. We don't help ourselves and by we, I mean Scottish football.
We (scottish football) need to do something about this farse. Aberdeen, Dundee Utd, Motherwell fans as well as all the other football fans should be kicking up a fuss about the next derby not being on TV. Even if they dont really care.

How kite has the atmosphere at parkhead been the 2nd half. Imagine we were 3-0 up against hearts.

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Remember being down in Surrey out and about in my hibs top and this old boy wearing a Crystal Palace cap comes over and enquires as to what team my top was. Hibs I said, he just looked blankly and I said again Hibs, you know from Edinburgh. He just smiled and "sorry I've heard of Rangers and Celtic from up your way and Aberdeen, yeah Aberdeen were Fergies old side but that's it. Edinburgh you say..."

[heretoday]

I dunno what it's like now but having attended a couple of Old Firm games in the 60s/70s I'd say nothing quite comes close in terms of atmosphere.

There aren't any Huns at the match tonight so that's damaged it as a spectacle.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Remember being down in Surrey out and about in my hibs top and this old boy wearing a Crystal Palace cap comes over and enquires as to what team my top was. Hibs I said, he just looked blankly and I said again Hibs, you know from Edinburgh. He just smiled and "sorry I've heard of Rangers and Celtic from up your way and Aberdeen, yeah Aberdeen were Fergies old side but that's it. Edinburgh you say..."

Aye, well, I can’t say Crystal Palace really register on my radar much

[Lago]

Remember being down in Surrey out and about in my hibs top and this old boy wearing a Crystal Palace cap comes over and enquires as to what team my top was. Hibs I said, he just looked blankly and I said again Hibs, you know from Edinburgh. He just smiled and "sorry I've heard of Rangers and Celtic from up your way and Aberdeen, yeah Aberdeen were Fergies old side but that's it. Edinburgh you say..."
Yip been there, guys I worked with didn't know there were 2 clubs in Edinburgh and couldn't name even 1 of them.

[DH1875]

Remember being down in Surrey out and about in my hibs top and this old boy wearing a Crystal Palace cap comes over and enquires as to what team my top was. Hibs I said, he just looked blankly and I said again Hibs, you know from Edinburgh. He just smiled and "sorry I've heard of Rangers and Celtic from up your way and Aberdeen, yeah Aberdeen were Fergies old side but that's it. Edinburgh you say..."

I used to have a few bars in Spain. No one had a clue who Hibs were. Shrewsbury Town, Darlington, Mansfield, but not Hibs.

[ballengeich]

Remember being down in Surrey out and about in my hibs top and this old boy wearing a Crystal Palace cap comes over and enquires as to what team my top was. Hibs I said, he just looked blankly and I said again Hibs, you know from Edinburgh. He just smiled and "sorry I've heard of Rangers and Celtic from up your way and Aberdeen, yeah Aberdeen were Fergies old side but that's it. Edinburgh you say..."
Crystal Palace you say ... did you take the opportunity to find out where they play, what division they're in and what trophies they've won?

[Hermit Crab]

I believe the next Edinburgh Derby hasn’t even been selected for coverage by Sky.


Thats excellent news. A 3pm kick off in the Edinburgh Derby in a league game with fans present, whens the last time that happened?

[Hermit Crab]

Away? So how do we go about seeing it then?


You buy a ticket in the scramble. Or pay hearts for live stream.

[Hermit Crab]

That’s mental. What chance have we got of growing the game up here when they don’t even show the derby.


I think its a good thing its not on tv personally.

[Hermit Crab]

Yip been there, guys I worked with didn't know there were 2 clubs in Edinburgh and couldn't name even 1 of them.


Theres actually 3. :wink:

[Del Boy]

Dundee derby wasn’t on sky this week and the next Dundee derby isn’t being shown either. It’s a nonsense. All the city derbies should be shown live, best fixtures in the calendar. Much rather watch a Dundee derby than livi v rangers or st Johnstone v Celtic, I imagine most neutrals would rather see an Edinburgh derby than these fixtures as well

[NAE NOOKIE]

As a football spectacle yes it is. A football match with no away fans is diminished, a derby with no away fans is about as authentic as a plastic diamond.

Until the Glasgow bigot fest returns to having away fans it's nothing more than just another game.

[Hermit Crab]

Dundee derby wasn’t on sky this week and the next Dundee derby isn’t being shown either. It’s a nonsense. All the city derbies should be shown live, best fixtures in the calendar. Much rather watch a Dundee derby than livi v rangers or st Johnstone v Celtic, I imagine most neutrals would rather see an Edinburgh derby than these fixtures as well


Fair enough show them live but leave them at a 3pm kick off on a Saturday - can't do that due to legalities you say? Then tough ****! Fans shouldn't be shafted to accommodate games for tv. Also game shouldn't be televised unless 80% or more tickets have been sold for the games. Too often crowds suffer because they are picked for tv at ridiculous kick off times.

[JimBHibees]

Dundee derby wasn’t on sky this week and the next Dundee derby isn’t being shown either. It’s a nonsense. All the city derbies should be shown live, best fixtures in the calendar. Much rather watch a Dundee derby than livi v rangers or st Johnstone v Celtic, I imagine most neutrals would rather see an Edinburgh derby than these fixtures as well

Totally agree with that the Derbies could have been shown on three nights if genuinely interested in the game up here. That the next Edinburgh and Dundee Derbies are not being shown if that is the case while all glory hunters can watch every away game is a total nonsense and hugely disrespectful to the clubs involved and the league

[Keith_M]

Theres actually 3. :wink:


Hibs, Edinburgh City and... ehm... nah, you've lost me.



:greengrin

[gbhibby]

Hibs, Edinburgh City and... ehm... nah, you've lost me.



:greengrin
Spartans😁

[Greencore]

Anyone need advice on how to watch the enxt Derby game feel free to pm me

[Moulin Yarns]

Tuesday stv news sports bit with Raman was all about the game on Wednesday, he mentioned St mirren v Motherwell and that was it. Unless edinburgh gets a different version of stv sports news at 6pm

[Renfrew_Hibby]

Tuesday stv news sports bit with Raman was all about the game on Wednesday, he mentioned St mirren v Motherwell and that was it. Unless edinburgh gets a different version of stv sports news at 6pm

Yeah living in the West we always get Raman and they tend to stick to the old firm and the likes of Well, St.Mirren and Killie. Always wondered if that segment differed in the East since they always make a big deal of " I'm John MacKay in Glasgow and I'm Kelly something or other in Edinburgh"

[LaMotta]

Yeah living in the West we always get Raman and they tend to stick to the old firm and the likes of Well, St.Mirren and Killie. Always wondered if that segment differed in the East since they always make a big deal of " I'm John MacKay in Glasgow and I'm Kelly something or other in Edinburgh"

They do. Big feature on Dabrowski last night.

[DanishJohn]

What would have been the Premier attraction if Live football on TV, Sky Sports etc and the internet had been around late 40's early 50's ?

Would it have been Rangers v Celtic or Rangers v Hibs ?

[Moulin Yarns]

They do. Big feature on Dabrowski last night.

That's weird then, I always thought pitlochry got a relay signal from the transmitter at Burntisland but it is the Glasgow version we get.

[Logie Green]

What would have been the Premier attraction if Live football on TV, Sky Sports etc and the internet had been around late 40's early 50's ?

Would it have been Rangers v Celtic or Rangers v Hibs ?

The gruesome twosome will always get priority.

If my memory serves me correctly there was a TV strike during the 1985-86 season so football highlight programmes did not get shown. The strike ended towards the end of the season and despite hertz being on a long unbeaten run the first OF game after the strike ended was the one chosen for highlights rather than hertz next match.

At least on the football side it all worked out well in the end. 😜

[The Leith Dutch]

When you saw Easter Road last night full and with a large visiting support, it struck me that you could argue that Hibs v Hearts is now the premier fixture in Scotland.

An atmosphere fuelled by having a full end of Hearts supporters and giving the match a sense of occasion now lost with the Old Firm. The pre match build up was befitting of the occasion and for Hibs and Hearts, there is more at stake in a derby than for Rangers and Celtic. In the sense that neither Hibs or Hearts are winning countless silverware which makes a derby victory more important and supporters revel in such until the next time.

The songs sung in the stadium are largely free of the hate filled Old Firm songbooks with little footballing context, but the atmosphere in an Edinburgh derby while combative, it usually manages to avoid becoming too poisonous.

As long as the Old Firm continue their away fan lock-outs or allocations of a few hundred, then it is second behind the Edinburgh derby as the premier fixture in the SPFL.

If you mean is it probably more enjoyable then yes (with the caveat that most on here wear green tinted spectacles).

But the OF game is still the Premier Fixture in Scotland and I suspect were it ever to be removed from the Scottish fixture calendar that would be reflected in the TV deal money. Most people outside the bubble of Scotland know nothing about Scottish football other than the OF.

For what it's worth - I'd prefer that league without them.
Less money and probably a drop in what players may come here but having a competitive league that we could actually consider winning would be great compensation.

[mcohibs]

I believe the next Edinburgh Derby hasn’t even been selected for coverage by Sky.

Sky probably get as many, if not more, viewers for Celtic and Rangers away fixtures than they would for the derby.

[JamesHFC]

Sky probably get as many, if not more, viewers for Celtic and Rangers away fixtures than they would for the derby.

Unfortunately this is the problem, they would rather keep their Rangers and Celtic viewers happy by showing them away to St Mirren than advertise one of the better matches of Scottish Football. Much preferred BT, shame they couldn’t outbid Sky on this occasion.

Less games on TV does mean more favourable kick off times for us though I suppose.

[Hermit Crab]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/historic-edinburgh-derby-rests-on-key-sky-sports-decision-involving-hearts-hibs-and-rangers-at-tynecastle-3557868

[jacomo]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/historic-edinburgh-derby-rests-on-key-sky-sports-decision-involving-hearts-hibs-and-rangers-at-tynecastle-3557868


It will be good for the atmosphere at the ground, at least.

Not that derbies need much help.

[Carheenlea]

If Sky opt to not show the Edinburgh derby, it simply confirms what we already knew, that the main broadcasters of Scottish Football have little imagination.

When you think back to some of the games selected for extended TV highlights back in the 80’s say, games chosen would often be attractive fixtures not always featuring the Old Firm. Teams on form, New Firm/Tayside/Edinburgh derbies, relegation 4 pointers etc. Now it’s simply about showing as much of Rangers and Celtic as possible. Great for Old Firm fans - snooze fest for the rest of us.