Substitutions

[AugustaHibs]

I have a real fear that winter recruitment is going to bite us on the arse.

Drey Wright and Josh Campbell on to try and win us a derby isn’t goo enough.

[Vault Boy]

Melkerson, Clarke, Mitchell, Henderson, and Jasper all didn't start today. 3 of them are yet to pull on a shirt. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Campbell very nearly did win it.

[Callum_62]

I have a real fear that winter recruitment is going to bite us on the arse.

Drey Wright and Josh Campbell on to try and win us a derby isn’t goo enough.And yet Campbell came about as close as you could to win it

I do think we are a midfielder short though

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[Winston Ingram]

I have a real fear that winter recruitment is going to bite us on the arse.

Drey Wright and Josh Campbell on to try and win us a derby isn’t goo enough.

Can’t understand for the life of me why Mueller came off and htf he brought Doidge off before Nisbet.

[Since452]

Melkerson, Clarke, Mitchell, Henderson, and Jasper all didn't start today. 3 of them are yet to pull on a shirt. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Campbell very nearly did win it.

Agreed. Our bench is going to be very strong one way or the other.

[Gmack7]

Can’t understand for the life of me why Mueller came off and htf he brought Doidge off before Nisbet.

Because Nisbet was much better than Doidge

[bigwheel]

Because Nisbet was much better than Doidge

100 percent. Thought Doidge had a poor game overall. Nisbet worked hard, did lots of good things but needs to be much better in sight if goal. Get his left peg working

[Scooter]

I wish we could see drey Wright in training. I just dont see what he offers infront off others. 3 times I counted where he gifted hearts a opportunity

[Mon Dieu4]

Can’t understand for the life of me why Mueller came off and htf he brought Doidge off before Nisbet.

Doidge was blowing out his arse from the start of the second half, he had to come off, not a dig at him as he needs his match fitness back

[KeithTheHibby]

Campbell was decent. Play him in the middle of the park and you can see he’s a good player. Wright did nothing. Either a sideways pass or gave the ball away.
Bizarre how he’s even still at the club.

[Jones28]

I have a real fear that winter recruitment is going to bite us on the arse.

Drey Wright and Josh Campbell on to try and win us a derby isn’t goo enough.

Campbell was the closest anyone on the park came to scoring!

[BlackSheep]

100 percent. Thought Doidge had a poor game overall. Nisbet worked hard, did lots of good things but needs to be much better in sight if goal. Get his left peg working

I’m sorry but what good things did he do?

His tendency to try and flick the ball round players over and over regardless of it working led to a few chances for Hearts last night!

Always shapes to place his shots and rarely does he put his laces through the ball.

With his back to goal his hold up play leaves a lot to be desired.

He rarely wins an aerial battle.

His first touch isn’t great and he tends to like controlling it then firing the ball cross field… sometimes this looks great and works…. But more often than not it puts us back towards our own goal!

I could go on….

As for our subs last night, I felt we would have gotten more out of Doidge with his hold up play if he had stayed on.
I’m really struggling to see what Wright brings to the team… he looks like a fish out of water whenever he plays…!

[CapitalGreen]

I’m sorry but what good things did he do?

His tendency to try and flick the ball round players over and over regardless of it working led to a few chances for Hearts last night!

Always shapes to place his shots and rarely does he put his laces through the ball.

With his back to goal his hold up play leaves a lot to be desired.

He rarely wins an aerial battle.

His first touch isn’t great and he tends to like controlling it then firing the ball cross field… sometimes this looks great and works…. But more often than not it puts us back towards our own goal!

I could go on….

As for our subs last night, I felt we would have gotten more out of Doidge with his hold up play if he had stayed on.
I’m really struggling to see what Wright brings to the team… he looks like a fish out of water whenever he plays…!

Doidge was blowing out his arse and got subbed pretty much immediately after losing the ball due to some poor hold up play around the half way line. I know some people don’t wish to hear it, but Nisbet has been better than Doidge since Doidge returned from injury.

[Brightside]

I have a real fear that winter recruitment is going to bite us on the arse.

Drey Wright and Josh Campbell on to try and win us a derby isn’t goo enough.

A lot of players missing tonight. I’ve a real fear some posters might run out of things to get a real fear about soon.

[B.H.F.C]

Doidge was blowing out his arse and got subbed pretty much immediately after losing the ball due to some poor hold up play around the half way line. I know some people don’t wish to hear it, but Nisbet has been better than Doidge since Doidge returned from injury.

Correct decision to take Doidge off for me.

We’re toiling up front full stop but he just isn’t at it. There were three or four balls in to the box first half where he was on his heels that were really good chances. And he could hardly run when he came off.

Thought Campbell did all right when he came on but Drey Wright is never going to come on and do anything positive in the final third.

[J-C]

Mueller was knackered, he worked his socks off, great attitude. Doidge was very poor, looks miles off it with no pace. Still confused what Maloney sees in Wright, as said above must be great in training.

[SlickShoes]

The only thing about the subs I didn’t understand was that I don’t see anything good about Drey Wright, the other subs were fine and newell only came off because he was injured.

[Dmas]

I thought the same at the time but as others have said there’s a lot of the new players missing and Hanlon mcginn magennis to come in.

I thought Campbell was good though to be fair to the lad, I can only assume maloney is trying to keep Drey Wright focused until the injury list eases just don’t see what he offers at all

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Drey Wright done a decent job getting close to their midfielder who was bossing it second half.

[LaMotta]

I have a real fear that winter recruitment is going to bite us on the arse.

Drey Wright and Josh Campbell on to try and win us a derby isn’t goo enough.

Agreed. :agree:

People saying that Campbell "nearly scored" isn't really justification for him being on the park. The net should have bulged there.

[ian cruise]

Doidge going off was the right call, big fella never really got in to the game.

Nisbet was all over the pitch, running back and making a pest of himself when Hearts were attacking and himself got forward a couple of times but run out of space or legs. The one where he could have taken it on his left I'm not sure was as great a chance as some are claiming it was, Gordon was covering pretty well. The chance in the first half he definitely had tunnel vision and went alone when a pass was the better option.

Mueller was tiring, so going off was the right call. I'd have preferred Allan to Wright but I'm looking at that through rose tinted glasses, I know.

Given the players we've still to have gone back or debut, we're not struggling this season for substitutions.

[Greenbeard]

QUOTE=KeithTheHibby;6844761]Campbell was decent. Play him in the middle of the park and you can see he’s a good player. Wright did nothing. Either a sideways pass or gave the ball away.
Bizarre how he’s even still at the club.[/QUOTE]
:agree: x2

[roo62]

I thought the same at the time but as others have said there’s a lot of the new players missing and Hanlon mcginn magennis to come in.

I thought Campbell was good though to be fair to the lad, I can only assume maloney is trying to keep Drey Wright focused until the injury list eases just don’t see what he offers at all

Has Scotty Allan regressed so much that he can't even get a fifteen minute cameo role to give us a match winning pass or even a goal ...surely not. Just one of those passes gives the fans a lift. Can't say Drey Wright has ever given me a quality moment.

[Northernhibee]

Drey Wright done a decent job getting close to their midfielder who was bossing it second half.

Yeah, we got a bit more of the ball when Wright came on.

[ian cruise]

Has Scotty Allan regressed so much that he can't even get a fifteen minute cameo role to give us a match winning pass or even a goal ...surely not. Just one of those passes gives the fans a lift. Can't say Drey Wright has ever given me a quality moment.

Think it's less to do with Allan ability and more to do with the 100mph tempo of the game, which was never his strong point.

[overdrive]

My issue with the subs was that we restricted ourselves to a max of 4 subs by doing two single substitutions. I realise they were due to injury but the second one, he could have brought someone else on.

[MrRobot]

Think the subs done well tonight

Mitchell was outstanding, Wright chased everything down and didn’t do anything wrong and Campbell almost won us the game.

Our bench now is far stronger than it was at the start of the season.

[BoomtownHibees]

Think the subs done well tonight

Mitchell was outstanding, Wright chased everything down and didn’t do anything wrong and Campbell almost won us the game.

Our bench now is far stronger than it was at the start of the season.

Wright gave the ball away cheaply 3 or 4 times during his time on the pitch. It worries me that he is still the first sub we make to come on and try and make a difference. Should be nowhere near the squad imo

[SlickShoes]

Wright gave the ball away cheaply 3 or 4 times during his time on the pitch. It worries me that he is still the first sub we make to come on and try and make a difference. Should be nowhere near the squad imo

Yep, I have never wanted a hibs player to do well this much since Konte, you know when he comes on if he can just do the basics right he may get a bit of leeway, but it just never seems to work out, he made a few stray passes like you said and put us under needless pressure from situations where we were getting more control of the game.

[SeanWilson]

Think the subs done well tonight

Mitchell was outstanding, Wright chased everything down and didn’t do anything wrong and Campbell almost won us the game.

Our bench now is far stronger than it was at the start of the season.
Mitchell was not outstanding 😂 he done ok.
Wright actually surprised me, apart from losing the ball a couple of times he actually showed urgency and pace (this after me screaming how on earth is mueller being replaced by this plonker in my head).
Campbell didn’t do much wrong and nearly won the game.

[The Harp Awakes]

Wright gave the ball away cheaply 3 or 4 times during his time on the pitch. It worries me that he is still the first sub we make to come on and try and make a difference. Should be nowhere near the squad imo

I can understand a new manager giving every player a fair crack of the whip when they come in, but I agree with you. Looks like we have shipped out 3 players in the transfer window who had the potential to contribute far more on the pitch.

[18Craig75]

Drey Wright done a decent job getting close to their midfielder who was bossing it second half.

Agree 100%. He was put on to get in about Benignami who was controlling the second half and he did that well. Gave the ball away a couple of times but he did the job he was put on to do.

That doesn’t fit the narrative though.

[Tyler Durden]

Agree 100%. He was put on to get in about Benignami who was controlling the second half and he did that well. Gave the ball away a couple of times but he did the job he was put on to do.

That doesn’t fit the narrative though.

I agree that was likely the rationale behind putting him on. Between last night and his role at Celtic Park, it seems clear that Maloney values the "defending from the front" aspect of Wright's game. It doesn't mean it worked all that well or was justified though IMO.

If we put on Scott Allan we potentially get on the front foot more and win the game. Or just about any other player tbh ahead of Wright.

Drey Wright has no confidence or desire to impact a game in an attacking sense. He gave the ball away several times which very nearly cost us. He was woeful last night again and just because he harried the Hearts midfield a bit, doesn't make it a good substitution.

[Lago]

Doidge was blowing out his arse from the start of the second half, he had to come off, not a dig at him as he needs his match fitness back
Yip not really fully fit yet, a yard slow.

[SeanWilson]

If we put on Scott Allan we potentially get on the front foot more and win the game. Or just about any other player tbh ahead of Wright.


You could also argue that we’d be just as likely to lose the ball as get on the front foot, especially with the pace of the game last night. SA has the wonder pass in him but wants all the time in the world on the ball, which was not available last night and rarely is.

[Tyler Durden]

You could also argue that we’d be just as likely to lose the ball as get on the front foot, especially with the pace of the game last night. SA has the wonder pass in him but wants all the time in the world on the ball, which was not available last night and rarely is.

I'm no Scott Allan cheerleader but he wouldn't have done any worse than Wright, who was caught on the ball several times. Also caught offside needlessly.

Nisbet and Doidge were also brushed off the ball far too easily several times. So it's not like Scott Allan would be a massive weak link in an otherwise superb team. His quality would have given us a different dimension and I'd rather our substitutions last night were geared towards creating more, rather than trying to stifle an average Hearts midfield.

[SlickShoes]

Agree 100%. He was put on to get in about Benignami who was controlling the second half and he did that well. Gave the ball away a couple of times but he did the job he was put on to do.

That doesn’t fit the narrative though.

I mean if he did that AND didn't give the ball away I'd say he did his job well, but with the ball at his feet the pass has to be so easy that I could make it for him to not give the ball away. The area of the pitch he is operating in means when he does do this the other team break and we are immediately under pressure.

[18Craig75]

I agree that was likely the rationale behind putting him on. Between last night and his role at Celtic Park, it seems clear that Maloney values the "defending from the front" aspect of Wright's game. It doesn't mean it worked all that well or was justified though IMO.

If we put on Scott Allan we potentially get on the front foot more and win the game. Or just about any other player tbh ahead of Wright.

Drey Wright has no confidence or desire to impact a game in an attacking sense. He gave the ball away several times which very nearly cost us. He was woeful last night again and just because he harried the Hearts midfield a bit, doesn't make it a good substitution.

I hate to break it to you but…Allan is finished at our level. Can’t cover the pitch. Not saying Wright is the answer but we were very limited in options to bring on.

[Tyler Durden]

I hate to break it to you but…Allan is finished at our level. Can’t cover the pitch. Not saying Wright is the answer but we were very limited in options to bring on.

See my earlier post. No way would Allan have done any worse - Wright wasn't especially effective in any sense, defending or attacking.

I'd have rather played literally any other player. Wright is hopeless.

[WeeRussell]

Can’t understand for the life of me why Mueller came off and htf he brought Doidge off before Nisbet.

Presumably he thought Meuller was tiring/isn’t yet fit for 90 mins.

Doidge looked tired, unfit/slow and not good enough.

As someone mentions at the top, our options are going to get a lot better from the bench shortly.

Really liked what Mitchell offers us compared to without him.. just wanted him to keep getting the ball and running at their number 12 (who should have been booked for his first foul on Demi… I assumed (wrongly) he had already been booked in first half when the ref couldn’t find his yellow for that challenge.

[keep the faith]

Has Scotty Allan regressed so much that he can't even get a fifteen minute cameo role to give us a match winning pass or even a goal ...surely not. Just one of those passes gives the fans a lift. Can't say Drey Wright has ever given me a quality moment.

Thank god someone else is seeing this. Hibs must genuinely have made around 15-20 substitutions since he was last used.
How in anyones world is Drey Wright a more impactful sub???

Blows my mind.

[Greenworld]

Can’t understand for the life of me why Mueller came off and htf he brought Doidge off before Nisbet.Because the game was passing him bye. He simply looked lost with the pace

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[MrRobot]

Mitchell was not outstanding 😂 he done ok.
Wright actually surprised me, apart from losing the ball a couple of times he actually showed urgency and pace (this after me screaming how on earth is mueller being replaced by this plonker in my head).
Campbell didn’t do much wrong and nearly won the game.

Maybe outstanding was a bit much :greengrin

i was really impressed with him though, most of our attacking threat came through mitchell IMO, he was a constant threat when he came on and was looking to drive forward with the ball.

[LaMotta]

I hate to break it to you but…Allan is finished at our level. Can’t cover the pitch. Not saying Wright is the answer but we were very limited in options to bring on.

He is not finished at this level as has proved in numerous occasions this season. Did you miss the QF at Tannadice or the home game v St Mirren or the win at St Johnstone?

Juat because he is not the player he was doesn't mean he is finished, and it shouldnt mean that until we get in players who are better than Wright and Campbell who have never even got going at this level.

[LaMotta]

See my earlier post. No way would Allan have done any worse - Wright wasn't especially effective in any sense, defending or attacking.

I'd have rather played literally any other player. Wright is hopeless.


Thank god someone else is seeing this. Hibs must genuinely have made around 15-20 substitutions since he was last used.
How in anyones world is Drey Wright a more impactful sub???

Blows my mind.

:agree:

Its astonishing to me - 4 games in a row we've been in need of a late goal against hard to break down teams and Wright has been preferred over Allan? It's mad.

[Comiston Hibee]

I wish we could see drey Wright in training. I just don't see what he offers in front off others. 3 times I counted where he gifted hearts a opportunity

washes the bibs and blows up the balls is my guess; regardless of what he does in training he consistently fails to do it when given game time. Very strange- perhaps its coz he's shorts and SM gives the wee guys a chance???

[snedzuk]

:agree:

Its astonishing to me - 4 games in a row we've been in need of a late goal against hard to break down teams and Wright has been preferred over Allan? It's mad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bgaiJ9mJMM

Watch from 5 mins to see Scott Allan on 27th November last - he hasnt lost that since then

[LaMotta]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bgaiJ9mJMM

Watch from 5 mins to see Scott Allan on 27th November last - he hasnt lost that since then

Exactly mate:agree:

[keep the faith]

I hate to break it to you but…Allan is finished at our level. Can’t cover the pitch. Not saying Wright is the answer but we were very limited in options to bring on.

That's a total myth. About 80% of the time he plays he makes an assist, scores or contributes to an improvement. Against St Johnstone he literally won us the game.
There is definitely something going on behind the scenes here, as the games against Cove and Motherwell to name but two were crying out for him. Instead we used players like Wright, loan players and players we subsequently let go!

Would love to know Maloneys thinking in ignoring Allan completely.

[jacomo]

Drey Wright done a decent job getting close to their midfielder who was bossing it second half.


He also gave the ball away so many times.

I want to like him, seems a decent guy, but he’s pretty hopeless in a Hibs shirt.

The OP is right, better subs and we might have grabbed the initiative. Sure, Campbell had probably our best shot but that’s only because we created too little.

Those two subs basically mean you are trying to see out the match, which meant settling for a point. You can never say that’s good enough in a derby.

[Mainstandman]

Doidge had Covid did he not. there are quite a few players out there who have not got there cardio fitness back after that, he may be in the bracket

[WeeRussell]

Watching replay of game and No way having it that Josh Campbell deserves criticism for not scoring. Did everything right.. freak(and f***ing frustrating) goal line block)

[Callum_62]

Watching replay of game and No way having it that Josh Campbell deserves criticism for not scoring. Did everything right.. freak(and f***ing frustrating) goal line block)Yep, 100 percent

You see they type of shots when the balls on the rise balloon over all the time

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[Ronniekirk]

Can’t understand for the life of me why Mueller came off and htf he brought Doidge off before Nisbet.

Muellar and Doidge tired and were getting caught in possession to often Right call imo


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[MagicSwirlingShip]

He also gave the ball away so many times.

I want to like him, seems a decent guy, but he’s pretty hopeless in a Hibs shirt.

The OP is right, better subs and we might have grabbed the initiative. Sure, Campbell had probably our best shot but that’s only because we created too little.

Those two subs basically mean you are trying to see out the match, which meant settling for a point. You can never say that’s good enough in a derby.

Yeah, I seen that too. But just because he gave the ball away doesn’t discredit his good work without the ball. I think it’s perfectly ok to make a change to combat the oppositions attack in a derby, and don’t think by doing so it’s accepting a draw either.

Campbell puts his shot either side of Sibbick and we are on here celebrating a derby win (negative sub included)

[jacomo]

Yeah, I seen that too. But just because he gave the ball away doesn’t discredit his good work without the ball. I think it’s perfectly ok to make a change to combat the oppositions attack in a derby, and don’t think by doing so it’s accepting a draw either.

Campbell puts his shot either side of Sibbick and we are on here celebrating a derby win (negative sub included)


Personally I consider a players work with the ball more important than his work without it, and I don’t think I’m alone.

[WeeRussell]

Oh… and Nielsen is still a fanny

[Stonewall]

Because the game was passing him bye. He simply looked lost with the pace

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Very harsh.

I thought he did fine. Admittedly after about 10 minutes he looked like he was thinking wtf is this I've stepped into here but he stuck at it, showed some good attributes and will be better for the experience. Also thought it was the correct decision to substitute him.

[MagicSwirlingShip]

Personally I consider a players work with the ball more important than his work without it, and I don’t think I’m alone.

Personally, I take into account both. Don’t think I’m alone either!