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AugustaHibs
29-01-2022, 06:49 PM
Someone want to tell me what he offers?

tonyrougier123
29-01-2022, 06:54 PM
Someone want to tell me what he offers?

Laddie is taking a lot of stick but he’s not the problem for me.
Needs a wee bit more composure in final third.

JammyDoidger
29-01-2022, 06:56 PM
It's not his fault he plays. It's the gaffers. He's giving his all so I'm not going to bash him, he will likely read forums and stuff as a young laddie so a bit harsh singling him out.

SMAXXA
29-01-2022, 06:56 PM
Not good enough just now and shouldn’t be in the starting 11. Played a lot of games and feel he’s getting worse so time out the team would likely benefit him. Won’t right the laddie off yet but certainly don’t see what his USP is and what he actually offers to this side.

Our midfield balance is terrible and it’s criminal it’s no been addressed in this window. You can add all the width and pace you want but you need a heart or your side in the midfield and we don’t have that. To passive and pedestrian at times need a leader and someone to drive us on.

truehibernian
29-01-2022, 06:57 PM
Thrown in during a bad spell, hate being down on a young player but he is limited at the top level and no different to say Scott Martin - simply not good enough and I've seen nothing that suggests he has development in him (similar to Martin). A sad indictment on the squad and other 'better players' that he gets the nod. Can't fault his effort mind, just not good enough technically or physically.

Zambernardi1875
29-01-2022, 06:58 PM
not even as good as sam stanton or scott robertson

Mikey_1875
29-01-2022, 06:58 PM
He has been bounced around in all different positions the last few weeks so I do feel a bit sorry for him. He needs a spell out of the team but we really are short of balanced options in the centre of the park despite all our activity this window.

Nicho87
29-01-2022, 07:00 PM
Should have been dropped after the Celtic game.

Onceinawhile
29-01-2022, 07:01 PM
At least he doesn't hide unlike Doyle Hayes.

1875Sean
29-01-2022, 07:03 PM
Think Hibs we’re far too quick to offer him a long term deal after a few decent first team games, let’s hope he can improve but centre midfield should be the main aim before the window shuts

500miles
29-01-2022, 07:04 PM
The most mobile player we have in midfield, is more likely to play the forward pass, makes himself available for the ball in unfavourable situations. Frustratingly it means he can give the ball away, but he can also play some nice, penetrating passes like when he played in Nisbet. I'd also be interested to see where he charts in fouls received.

He's also played behind the stiker, out wide holding mid, box to box and centre half.

I think he's got a lot to offer and Maloney likes him because he wants his midfielders to be brave and not play safety passes as soon as they make a mistake.

Nevi_SOL
29-01-2022, 07:05 PM
Lad needs rested/dropped for a couple of games.

Inconsequential
29-01-2022, 07:14 PM
It's all his fault entirely. Was thrown in at the deep end, did very well but his form has dipped. Held things together for a few games when more experienced team mates couldn't be ars*d. Let's all get on his back, wonderful 'support' to a young player.

Dr What If?
29-01-2022, 07:16 PM
Lad needs rested/dropped for a couple of games.
Lad just needs managed properly. Young guys like him are the future of the team and it is a boost that he can be brought in for cover when needed....isn't there yet to step in and make the starting berth his though. Players like him will benefit from us having a strong B team that he can drop in to.

Lancs Harp
29-01-2022, 07:17 PM
It's not his fault he plays. It's the gaffers. He's giving his all so I'm not going to bash him, he will likely read forums and stuff as a young laddie so a bit harsh singling him out.

Totally agree, a young promising lad making his way in the game. He's getting too much time on the park for his own good. You'd hope the management would recognise this.

J-C
29-01-2022, 07:17 PM
Needs better and more experience around him, just up from div2 at Edin City and not near ready to start every week, had 2-3 decent games earlier but will make mistakes now and then, JDH is more culpable.

truehibernian
29-01-2022, 07:19 PM
It's all his fault entirely. Was thrown in at the deep end, did very well but his form has dipped. Held things together for a few games when more experienced team mates couldn't be ars*d. Let's all get on his back, wonderful 'support' to a young player.

It's top level football not 5-a-sides - you have to be able to handle pressure and that includes getting stick - young or not, he's not good enough just now. I'm all for backing players young and old but don't come out with this 'wonderful support' nonsense - it goes with the territory of football and the hardiest survive :aok:

Inconsequential
29-01-2022, 07:30 PM
It's top level football not 5-a-sides - you have to be able to handle pressure and that includes getting stick - young or not, he's not good enough just now. I'm all for backing players young and old but don't come out with this 'wonderful support' nonsense - it goes with the territory of football and the hardiest survive :aok:I'll come out with this 'wonderful support' nonsense as you put it when and if I feel it's appropriate but thanks for your input to the debate.

LunasBoots
29-01-2022, 07:33 PM
Young laddy who maybe shouldn't be starting every week at this level at the moment

MWHIBBIES
29-01-2022, 07:34 PM
At least he doesn't hide unlike Doyle Hayes.

Thats laughable. JDH is involved far, far more than Campbell in games.

Hibiza
29-01-2022, 07:36 PM
Totally agree, a young promising lad making his way in the game. He's getting too much time on the park for his own good. You'd hope the management would recognise this.
👍

Mrimbetween
29-01-2022, 07:37 PM
Give the kid the Derby

Then see if water finds its level

hibbysam
29-01-2022, 07:38 PM
Give the kid the Derby

Then see if water finds its level

No chance. Newell has to play. Campbell has been brutal since the break. An Edinburgh derby isn’t a place to be hoping for someone to come good.

Broken Gnome
29-01-2022, 07:38 PM
Thats laughable. JDH is involved far, far more than Campbell in games.

Could potentially be arguing that Campbell's maybe more adventurous in what he tries - for Livi's 3rd, for example - while JDH is pretty much solely a simple recycler of the ball.

Bobby's Cinema
29-01-2022, 07:41 PM
Want to give the guy a chance and full support but He's been very very quiet for long spells in recent games, the sort where you have to remind yourself he's playing.

A wee bit lack of composure at times in the final third picking the wrong options, took a ridiculous shot on today first half that he was never ever set for. Not from any lack of effort but maybe needs some time out and come back all the stronger for it.

Onceinawhile
29-01-2022, 09:00 PM
Thats laughable. JDH is involved far, far more than Campbell in games.

Don't get me wrong, Campbell brings nothing to the table, but jdh passes to a defender then runs to a marker and stays as close as possible so that he can't get the ball back.

J-C
29-01-2022, 09:06 PM
Don't get me wrong, Campbell brings nothing to the table, but jdh passes to a defender then runs to a marker and stays as close as possible so that he can't get the ball back.


IIRC that's exactly what Josh Vela was like when he played for us, soon emptied.

Tyler Durden
29-01-2022, 09:09 PM
IIRC that's exactly what Josh Vela was like when he played for us, soon emptied.

I thought JDH was very much like Vela today. He looks lost.

madhatter
29-01-2022, 09:12 PM
Who approved the contract extension? He's had a few decent moments but I can't comprehend why we've sent Tait on loan and kept Campbell.

So far he doesn't look as good as Fraser Murray, Sam Stanton and Ollie Shaw so I'm a little confused at what we hope to achieve.

Keeping Campbell could prove to be unfair on him as well. Stagnate his career if he's going to struggle to make it at Hibs.

easty
29-01-2022, 09:18 PM
I'm just completely reminded of Danny Handling with Campbell. Can be tidy enough at times, but overall nowhere near good enough.

It also looks like he's kind of just coasting along, he's certainly not working his arse off. Walked off the pitch today, didn't even look tired. Where's the youthful exuberance? He's only played a few games, he's not "made it" at Hibs just yet. His career could easily go the same route as Handlings, or he can knuckle down, he can bust a gut, work as hard as he possibly can, and give himself the best chance he can to show that he's good enough for this level.

J-C
29-01-2022, 09:41 PM
Who approved the contract extension? He's had a few decent moments but I can't comprehend why we've sent Tait on loan and kept Campbell.

So far he doesn't look as good as Fraser Murray, Sam Stanton and Ollie Shaw so I'm a little confused at what we hope to achieve.

Keeping Campbell could prove to be unfair on him as well. Stagnate his career if he's going to struggle to make it at Hibs.


That would've been Ross who approved it, Campbell played Div2 last season at Edin City, he should've been given either a year to prove himself or let go.

Crammond Hibee
29-01-2022, 10:41 PM
I'm just completely reminded of Danny Handling with Campbell. Can be tidy enough at times, but overall nowhere near good enough.

It also looks like he's kind of just coasting along, he's certainly not working his arse off. Walked off the pitch today, didn't even look tired. Where's the youthful exuberance? He's only played a few games, he's not "made it" at Hibs just yet. His career could easily go the same route as Handlings, or he can knuckle down, he can bust a gut, work as hard as he possibly can, and give himself the best chance he can to show that he's good enough for this level.



Remember Handling had a really serious knee Injury

WeeRussell
29-01-2022, 11:57 PM
If all else fails, pick the youngest, newest, and by far least experienced member of the 11 and single him out for a booting after a bad result.

This’ll help get us all going into February 💪🏻

Coco Bryce
30-01-2022, 12:35 AM
If all else fails, pick the youngest, newest, and by far least experienced member of the 11 and single him out for a booting after a bad result.

This’ll help get us all going into February 💪🏻

Let's face it. Hes just not very good.

Turkish Green
30-01-2022, 12:39 AM
Someone want to tell me what he offers?

A question you need to put to the gaffer. Maloney obviously has a game-plan and sees Campbell as a important part, as clearly we are not recruiting to fill whatever position that is.

ozhibs
30-01-2022, 01:14 AM
He has been bounced around in all different positions the last few weeks so I do feel a bit sorry for him. He needs a spell out of the team but we really are short of balanced options in the centre of the park despite all our activity this window.

I knew this thread would happen, he is going through a bad spell and a rest not pilloried
GGTTH

ShinyFantastic
30-01-2022, 01:27 AM
I have no idea what his purpose is, totally anonymous from what I’ve watched…

SeanWilson
30-01-2022, 05:35 AM
No chance. Newell has to play. Campbell has been brutal since the break. An Edinburgh derby isn’t a place to be hoping for someone to come good.

Newell will get run over in the derby, he’s that pedestrian. Not a scoob what anyone sees in him.

HH81
30-01-2022, 05:40 AM
Doig had a few poor games in his first season and don't think he was slated as much.

I like Campbell and hope he comes good again.

California-Hibs
30-01-2022, 06:51 AM
He's no where near good enough.

Tambo
30-01-2022, 06:55 AM
Started well when he was playing behind Nisbet then since then he's been poor.

hibbysam
30-01-2022, 07:47 AM
Newell will get run over in the derby, he’s that pedestrian. Not a scoob what anyone sees in him.

That’s really not true though is it. Very good footballer who should, and thankfully will play. I hope that’s the last time he’s dropped after watching Omeonga turn into prime Kaka in his absence.

Jones28
30-01-2022, 07:48 AM
The positional bingo he’s playing doesn’t really help. He was at his best in behind the strikers, when he first came in to the team.

hibee-boys
30-01-2022, 08:00 AM
I’m not doubting Campbell’s efforts, and he was obviously gutted at giving away the possession that led to the Livingston goal, but he’s nowhere near the level we need. I was very surprised to see him start again yesterday, I’m assuming Newell was rested. Not see anything that warranted the new contract🤷🏼

Ronniekirk
30-01-2022, 08:07 AM
I’m not doubting Campbell’s efforts, and he was obviously gutted at giving away the possession that led to the Livingston goal, but he’s nowhere near the level we need. I was very surprised to see him start again yesterday, I’m assuming Newell was rested. Not see anything that warranted the new contract[emoji1743]

I agree the new three contract was premature For someone just breaking g into the team he is maybe being overplayed but he can play in a number of positions so his versatility means at present he is a valuable squad player
Going forward though if Maloney still favours him he will need to decide what his best position is


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Ozyhibby
30-01-2022, 08:08 AM
I don’t rate him and Henderson looked even worse.


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easty
30-01-2022, 08:40 AM
Doig had a few poor games in his first season and don't think he was slated as much.

I like Campbell and hope he comes good again.

Doig got SPL Young Player of the Year in his first season. There’s absolutely nae comparison.

Leith Green
30-01-2022, 08:48 AM
People can come out with the chat that we shouldn’t be singling out a young player , or that he hasnt played enough to be casting negative judgement. But I can only judge what I have seen thus far , and he looks nowhere near good enough. Thought Henderson has looked equally inept, but obviously over fewer games. Doyle hayes does a certain job in midfield but we lack the other components , i dont rate him that highly either though. Im really concerned at the pool of central midfielders we currently have , lacking so many essential necessities

Since452
30-01-2022, 08:48 AM
Doig got SPL Young Player of the Year in his first season. There’s absolutely nae comparison.

Exactly.

BoomtownHibees
30-01-2022, 08:57 AM
That’s really not true though is it. Very good footballer who should, and thankfully will play. I hope that’s the last time he’s dropped after watching Omeonga turn into prime Kaka in his absence.

Newell played in the last game when Omeonga was also MOTM

B.H.F.C
30-01-2022, 09:07 AM
I don’t think he’s good enough. Feel a bit sorry for him though. He obviously wants to do well but how on earth he’s found himself being first pick in the middle of the park is beyond me. The way he got caught on the ball for the winner yesterday said it all. At least you see him now and again, JDH is like the invisible man.

Eyrie
30-01-2022, 09:58 AM
Whether he's a good prospect whose form has dipped, or simply not good enough, it's clear that Campbell needs dropped.

My worry is that we have too many anonymous midfielders right now (Campbell, Doyle-Hayes, Henderson, Wright, Murphy) and Hibs can't afford to carry that many on the wage bill.

Newell at least looks more positive under Maloney, which is why I haven't included him.

bigwheel
30-01-2022, 10:16 AM
Whether he is good enough or not, I don’t think it’s doing a young player any favours to not rest him during his first real run of games …

FilipinoHibs
30-01-2022, 10:18 AM
Whether he's a good prospect whose form has dipped, or simply not good enough, it's clear that Campbell needs dropped.

My worry is that we have too many anonymous midfielders right now (Campbell, Doyle-Hayes, Henderson, Wright, Murphy) and Hibs can't afford to carry that many on the wage bill.

Newell at least looks more positive under Maloney, which is why I haven't included him.

Newell has a bit of dig about him and won't be frightened to get stuck into them. Holds the ball up well and rarely gives it away. Certain starter on Tuesday night.

JimBHibees
30-01-2022, 12:05 PM
The positional bingo he’s playing doesn’t really help. He was at his best in behind the strikers, when he first came in to the team.

Yes absolutely isn't been helped with the constant change in position. Personally would put him in off the front behind Nisbet and Doidge as personally thought he was good there including in the semi final. He looks one of our fitter stronger players and we definitely need that athleticism on Tuesday.

Coco Bryce
30-01-2022, 12:48 PM
I knew this thread would happen, he is going through a bad spell and a rest not pilloried
GGTTH

Yes he is. But he's still getting a game.

That's the problem. Lad needs a spell out the team.

WeeRussell
30-01-2022, 12:51 PM
Yes he is. But he's still getting a game.

That's the problem. Lad needs a spell out the time.

That’s the problem? So it’s not just that he’s “just not very good”

Coco Bryce
30-01-2022, 12:53 PM
That’s the problem? So it’s not just that he’s “just not very good”

No he's not good enough either 😏

WeeRussell
30-01-2022, 12:54 PM
No he's not good enough either 😏

Ah, I see 👍

number9dream
30-01-2022, 12:58 PM
JDH just turned 23, Campbell, 21, Henderson, 21. Latter two have very little top flight experience. At best, one of the three should be starting…

jacomo
30-01-2022, 01:25 PM
Laddie is taking a lot of stick but he’s not the problem for me.
Needs a wee bit more composure in final third.


I’m not seeing any evidence he should be in the final third. I think his natural position is further back.

Unseen work
30-01-2022, 01:29 PM
I think there’s definitely potential there.

He can do a bit of everything for a centre mid. Gets about the pitch, bags of energy, comfortable passing with either foot whether it’s short or long and has a hit.

What he really needs to do is improve his decision making and look after the ball better. He’s got a howler or two in him which he has shown with how easily he’s gave the ball away in bad positions.

He was at fault for the goal but if you look at it Omeonga done brilliantly for Livi getting that block. Porteous then had a shocker with how he was defending.