Maloney Hits Back At Ross

[Chuck Rhoades]

On BBC Sportsound after the match. Said JR’s comments weren’t required. Felt he was disrespectful to him and his back room staff. Certainly was not happy.

Ross remarks 'disrespectful' - Maloney
FT: Hibernian 1-0 Cove Rangers (AET)
Hibernian manager Shaun Maloney doesn't sound too pleased about the Jack Ross interviews that appeared in some of today's newspapers.

"We had the previous manager come and speak out publicly which was difficult," he says. "I found it quite disrespectful to me and my staff and the club more importantly. That wasn't appreciated.

"Martin Boyle... We'll know more in the next 24-48 hours but I have to say the boy himself has been very good, very professional

[Hibbyradge]

On BBC Sportsound after the match. Said JR’s comments weren’t required. Felt he was disrespectful to him and his back room staff. Certainly was not happy.

What did Ross say to get that reaction?

[K-Zazu]

Very surprised maloney even mentioned it?

[Nicho87]

Love it.

Maybe some think maloney isn’t an argumentative softly spoken type.

Sometimes less is more. But that had to be said.

Well in Shaun

[Scooter]

On BBC Sportsound after the match. Said JR’s comments weren’t required. Felt he was disrespectful to him and his back room staff. Certainly was not happy.

If its purely just on the sun article then Maloney's comments are shocking almost Embarrassing. Ross never really said anything wrong (again if it's just the article) and don't know why he's so bothered

[Stokesy's on fire]

What did Ross say to get that reaction?

I read his comments earlier and i thought what he said was fair. I'm sure someone will post a link for you to the article

[Vault Boy]

Probably makes me a walking contradiction, but I think they've both got a point. I wasn't angered by anything Jack Ross said, I felt for him with the way things ended. Wish him all the best going forward.

But for Shaun, it simply complicates things. A former manager talking about current players and ongoing transfer situations clearly won't be palatable for him. Again, without having any trouble personally with what Jack has said, I don't mind Maloney speaking up here.

Get aff the fence man.

[Hibbyradge]

Love it.

Maybe some think maloney isn’t an argumentative softly spoken type.

Sometimes less is more. But that had to be said.

Well in Shaun

Tbh, it's made him seem a bit thin skinned and overly sensitive unless Ross has said more than I've read.

[truehibernian]

Very surprised maloney even mentioned it?

I'm not - an ex manager going to the media hawking a player and saying he's been in daily dialogue with him undermines the new manager and Jack knows that. Maloney is right to call him out.

[Stokesy's on fire]

Tbh, it's made him seem a bit thin skinned and overly sensitive unless Ross has said more than I've read.

Agree with this.

[bigwheel]

If its purely just on the sun article then Maloney's comments are shocking almost Embarrassing. Ross never really said anything wrong (again if it's just the article) and don't know why he's so bothered

I’m with you on that…ignore it Shaun….if he’s sensitive to that, he’s going to have a lot of frustration in his career as a manager

[hibbysam]

Tbh, it's made him seem a bit thin skinned and overly sensitive unless Ross has said more than I've read.

Didn’t Ross say he’s been speaking to Boyle and then publicly stating Hibs should let Boyle go?

That puts Hibs in a fairly difficult situation and suggests Boyle was desperate to go. While that may be right, there’s no need for that conversation to go public.

[Latapy'sVolley]

Very surprised maloney even mentioned it?

I felt the same, was really surprised he chose to bring it up. Didn't think JR said anything untoward, nor anything re: Boyle that we as supporters haven't been saying ourselves, so not sure why he was feeling so disrespected.

[Heisenberg]

I'm not - an ex manager going to the media hawking a player and saying he's been in daily dialogue with him undermines the new manager and Jack knows that. Maloney is right to call him out.

I agree. I’d guess it’s the stuff with Boyle that has annoyed Maloney.

[gaz1875]

I'm not - an ex manager going to the media hawking a player and saying he's been in daily dialogue with him undermines the new manager and Jack knows that. Maloney is right to call him out.

Spot on with this.

[bingo70]

I'm not - an ex manager going to the media hawking a player and saying he's been in daily dialogue with him undermines the new manager and Jack knows that. Maloney is right to call him out.

I didn’t have a big problem with what Ross said this morning but you’re right.

If Neil Lennon or Heckingbottom came out and said he’d been speaking to Boyle daily and he should get his move while he was manager, i suspect Ross would be telling them to mind their own business.

[madhatter]

Totally understandable for me. He's just into his first managerial position and ex-manager decides to come out of the silence to talk about one of his players being sold.

Nothing necessarily untoward about Ross' comments but losing your best player will annoy you and seeing comments about it from your predecessor won't help that frustration.

[Nicho87]

100% it’s the comments regarding maloneys player Martin Boyle

Maloney has no real interest on how or why Ross got sacked

Where maloney becomes concerned is an ex manager just out the door saying aye hibs should do the right thing and let him move

That is an opinion which Ross should have said no comment to the question

I can totally see why maloney would be pissed. Ross hasn’t done any articles, not one and the day before a move comes about he’s saying Boyle should go.

Ross would have been out the door a lot quicker if he never had the joys of having Boyle to rely / bail him out on.

[Unseen work]

I'm not - an ex manager going to the media hawking a player and saying he's been in daily dialogue with him undermines the new manager and Jack knows that. Maloney is right to call him out.

100%

[jacomo]

Fight! Fight! Fight!

[lord bunberry]

Fair play to him. Ross is yesterday’s man sniping from the sidelines, Maloney is the man doing the job Ross thinks he should still be doing. I liked Ross, but he can go and **** himself if he thinks he’s more important than the current manager. I’m not interested in anything Ross has got to say anymore, Maloney is the main man.

[truehibernian]

100% it’s the comments regarding maloneys player Martin Boyle

Maloney has no real interest on how or why Ross got sacked

Where maloney becomes concerned is an ex manager just out the door saying aye hibs should do the right thing and let him move

That is an opinion which Ross should have said no comment to the question

I can totally see why maloney would be pissed. Ross hasn’t done any articles, not one and the day before a move comes about he’s saying Boyle should go.

Ross would have been out the door a lot quicker if he never had the joys of having Boyle to rely / bail him out on.

I think it's because he has been in 'regular contact' with the player - no need to say that - that undermines the manager and can cause player/manager mistrust. No need for Ross to say that other than for devilment.

[BoomtownHibees]

Well said Shaun

[JamesHFC]

Well done Maloney, totally right. The bottle merchant is gone now, we move.

[JohnM1875]

Heard JR saying plenty times when he was here that he doesn't want to talk about other people's players. So why start doing it now and talking about Hibs players?

[Sir David Gray]

Heard Maloney speaking on the radio, very surprised by his comments. Not something you hear too much of these days.

[truehibernian]

Heard JR saying plenty times when he was here that he doesn't want to talk about other people's players. So why start doing it now and talking about Hibs players?

Hopefully he'll end up at St Johnstone and take Drey Wright, Gogic and Hallberg :aok:

[Hibbyradge]

Heard JR saying plenty times when he was here that he doesn't want to talk about other people's players. So why start doing it now and talking about Hibs players?

He's just a pundit now and he was answering a newspaper's questions.

Loads of people have said Martin Boyle should be allowed to leave if the fee is right. Why not Ross?

[Callum_62]

He's just a pundit now and he was answering a newspaper's questions.

Loads of people have said Martin Boyle should be allowed to leave if the fee is right. Why not Ross?I guess because he obviously has a close relationship with him

Talking about him speaking to Martin and he should be allowed to go when negotiations are ongoing arnt helpful to hibs

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[B.H.F.C]

I think it's because he has been in 'regular contact' with the player - no need to say that - that undermines the manager and can cause player/manager mistrust. No need for Ross to say that other than for devilment.

Thought his comments about losing his job were fair enough. Much as I was glad to see him go, from a professional perspective it was obvious he’d feel hard done by. Thought the comments about Boyle were a bit ‘look at me the players still love me’. Wonder if he’d have been in the press recommending the club let Boyle go if he was still in charge….

[SaulGoodman]

He's just a pundit now and he was answering a newspaper's questions.

Loads of people have said Martin Boyle should be allowed to leave if the fee is right. Why not Ross?

Because Ross said he’s been in close contact with Boyle and spoke about it.

There’s difference in saying “I think Boyle should leave” and “I’ve been speaking to Boyle about it and I think he should leave”

One is an opinion and one implies the player wants to go, which puts pressure on the club.

[Mick O'Rourke]

Shaun may not be that displeased that Martin is leaving
Certainly Martin and Jack got on well.
Could be Martin was looking to leave after Jack got sacked.
Below is Martin's comments on the sacking

Personal opinion, it wasn't great. Not a great situation," Boyle, 28, said.
"It was obviously not my decision but certainly one that I don't agree with.
I'd probably say harsh.
Ultimately, he still kept the squad together and we still believed in what we wanted to achieve.
"Signing a new contract under him and obviously probably a bit part of why I signed as well, he showed a lot of belief in what he wanted to do with the club."

Those comments said before Christmas.
I thought then that Martin would likely be off this month, no matter what Jack Ross said today
Saying that ,Jack should have kept his mouth shut about Boyle (to the press)
Just stoking the fire,doing that.

[Brightside]

What did Ross say to get that reaction?

Nothing. Shaun maybe just read the headline too.

[Hibs90]

When I read Ross comments I actually thought it was a bit disrespectful towards Maloney and his staff that Boyle and Ross were in daily dialogue so I’m pleased he’s come out and retaliated.

[truehibernian]

Nothing. Shaun maybe just read the headline too.

Maybe the journalist knows SM really well too and told him what was really said.

[silverhibee]

I'm not - an ex manager going to the media hawking a player and saying he's been in daily dialogue with him undermines the new manager and Jack knows that. Maloney is right to call him out.

:agree:

I think Sean will be more annoyed about the Boyle chat.

[silverhibee]

Fair play to him. Ross is yesterday’s man sniping from the sidelines, Maloney is the man doing the job Ross thinks he should still be doing. I liked Ross, but he can go and **** himself if he thinks he’s more important than the current manager. I’m not interested in anything Ross has got to say anymore, Maloney is the main man.

Like. :thumbsup:

[givescotlandfreedom]

Good, the fact Ross would talk to that vile rag and come out with what he has proves he didn't have a clue.

[lord bunberry]

Like. :thumbsup:
Cheers bud. How you doing these days?

[WeeRussell]

Good, the fact Ross would talk to that vile rag and come out with what he has proves he didn't have a clue.

I’m undecided about the comments, but it really doesn’t prove that at all does it?

[kaimendhibs]

Good, the fact Ross would talk to that vile rag and come out with what he has proves he didn't have a clue.

Agree. He could say he loves me but not to that rag

[Libby Hibby]

If its purely just on the sun article then Maloney's comments are shocking almost Embarrassing. Ross never really said anything wrong (again if it's just the article) and don't know why he's so bothered

Away you go. He’s quite right. Ross using the Boyle situation to get back into the papers to promote himself. If Shaun felt the comments were out of order then I’m all for pulling him about it. Under the Ross regime we were too silent when folk were openly critical of our club in the press.

Well done Shaun.

[Dmas]

Tbh, it's made him seem a bit thin skinned and overly sensitive unless Ross has said more than I've read.

So when JR says things like, Boyle ‘should be allowed to leave’ and ‘hibs shouldn’t stand in his way’ that’s all fine? there’s some sort of narrative that we are the big bad wolf here trying to get the best value for one of our contracted players and JR is feeding that, do we think JR would have been happy with Boyle leaving if he was still in post? would he just roll over and accept first offer since it’s life changing for Boyle? of course not and he should keep his opinions on the matter to his private conversations with his friend.

[Dalianwanda]

Good man Maloney. Bit of dig about you.

JR isn’t just another pundit, he’s a nose out of joint pundit who shouldn’t be advising Hibs on what the should do with their players.

[Since452]

There will be a phonecall happening I'd imagine. Massive fan of Jack Ross but not sure why he had to speak out although don't think he said anything wrong. Wasn't helpful though.

[hibeejeebies]

Do the BBC post the interviews on their site?

[JimBHibees]

Do the BBC post the interviews on their site?

Scottish football podcast sportsound allows you to listen to aftermatch of games including interviews

[GonzoReturns]

Well said Maloney. Ross perfectly entitled to his opinion and to voice it in public but he knew what he was doing when it became I talk to my mate Martin everyday telling him what to do. That’s nothing more than an attempt to undermine Maloney. Think a number of players will have a similar relationship with Ross. Expect more of them to get emptied. Those great mates of Ross are also the ones who ultimately got him sacked……

[JimBHibees]

Well said Shaun

[JimBHibees]

Well said Maloney. Ross perfectly entitled to his opinion and to voice it in public but he knew what he was doing when it became I talk to my mate Martin everyday telling him what to do. That’s nothing more than an attempt to undermine Maloney. Think a number of players will have a similar relationship with Ross. Expect more of them to get emptied. Those great mates of Ross are also the ones who ultimately got him sacked……

Spot on they liked him that much they got him the sack. Sounds like too many knew they were on a cushy number knowing they would play irrespective of performance

[Jim44]

Firstly, for what it’s worth, I liked Ross as our manager and was disappointed for him when he was shown the door, but I think he is out of order to make the sort of comments suggested here ( I haven’t read them but get the gist). He sounds like a bitter man and, in my opinion, has lost some sympathy and respect.

[Sir David Gray]

Do the BBC post the interviews on their site?

Maloney comments on Ross at 36:19.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bjh056

[Pretty Boy]

Ross was trying to hawk one of our players in the media and heavily implied he still had Martin Boyles ear.

I would have been raging if I was Maloney as well.

Everyone knows football is like any other business and people look for advice from ex managers, colleagues etc but a former manager actively involving himself in the media furore surrounding an ongoing transfer situation is poor stuff. Ross wouldn't have liked Neil Lennon or Alan Stubbs trying to talk up Boyle to Celtic in the media.

[Callum_62]

Ross was trying to hawk one of our players in the media and heavily implied he still had Martin Boyles ear.

I would have been raging if I was Maloney as well.

Everyone knows football is like any other business and people look for advice from ex managers, colleagues etc but a former manager actively involving himself in an ongoing transfer situation is poor stuff.I think if he didn't say he was speaking to Martin about it then fine

The fact he did is the disrespectful part Maloney talks about I think

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[mjhibby]

Much as I was neither happy nor sad at Ross leaving the article in the paper did him no favours. I can see the point of him not getting to lead the team out at hampden but he was on a horrendous run and he knows that only ends up one way. P45. We have won 3 league games,drawn one,lost to the celtic who we very rarely take something from away and negotiated a tough cup tie minus loads of players due to injury and suspension.
Wrong time for Ross to appear in the papers IMHO. The results have shown it was the right decision and as for Boyle very naughty stirring the pot there. Its up to hibs,as it would have been if he'd been in charge, to proceed as they see fit. If the bid doesnt match their valuation then no. End of. Plus if we sell Boyle only 10 days to get a replacement in.
.net has become so negative these days I can go days without looking. The bounce is far fairer now IMHO. Mcginn back for well,porteous after that game our new signings will soon gel. Onwards and upwards
Ggtth.

[Since452]

Firstly, for what it’s worth, I liked Ross as our manager and was disappointed for him when he was shown the door, but I think he is out of order to make the sort of comments suggested here ( I haven’t read them but get the gist). He sounds like a bitter man and, in my opinion, has lost some sympathy and respect.

100% agree. On the eve of a tricky cup game. He's an intellegent guy, he knew what he was doing there. Obviously still pissed off. Supported Jack Ross massivley when he was our manager but he isn't any more so he can do one. Hibs are the important thing. Behind our current manager on this.

[weecounty hibby]

I stuck up ror Ross right to the end. He's gone now and I fully support the new manager. I get that Ross will have been asked questions but he could easily have kept some if that to himself. Totally understand why Maloney would be a bit pissed off

[bigwheel]

Don’t understand why Maloney has made this a “thing”. Boyle was already finalising his move by the time the article emerged. Didn’t affect any element of it .

Can understand people on here wanting to protect Hibs, but still think Maloney has come across overly sensitive on it .

Could be interesting at times though, if Maloney is going to pick people up for things they do and things they say like this - could be some good after match interviews ….

[MikeyS]

Don’t understand why Maloney has made this a “thing”. Boyle was already finalising his move by the time the article emerged. Didn’t affect any element of it .

Can understand people on here wanting to protect Hibs, but still think Maloney has come across overly sensitive on it .

Could be interesting at times though, if Maloney is going to pick people up for things they do and things they say like this - could be some good after match interviews ….

I can see both sides of your point actually. I agree that while JRs comments weren't overly critical, they weren't really helpful and perhaps didn't warrant a response but maybe Maloney is just playing the game hear and letting us supporters know that there is a fight in him if needed. We've already seen comments on here that he might be a soft touch so hopefully that puts that to bed.

[J-C]

After Boyle's comments after Ross left, I wonder if he told his agent to get it sorted and wanted out.

[bigwheel]

I can see both sides of your point actually. I agree that while JRs comments weren't overly critical, they weren't really helpful and perhaps didn't warrant a response but maybe Maloney is just playing the game hear and letting us supporters know that there is a fight in him if needed. We've already seen comments on here that he might be a soft touch so hopefully that puts that to bed.

That’s a fair set of points Mikey [emoji106]. Balanced view

[blackpoolhibs]

Who cares, Maloney will probably do the same when he's managed more than one club.

[bigwheel]

Who cares, Maloney will probably do the same when he's managed more than one club.

[emoji1787][emoji1787].

[lucky]

Whether JR was right to say anything or not, I like the fact Maloney has hit back. It show he’s cares and is not the soft touch some might have thought he is.

[The Baldmans Comb]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

[Hiber-nation]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Congratulations for that well informed in depth piece of analysis.

[bigwheel]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

[emoji1787][emoji1787]. Come on Jack , you need to spend less time on this forum and get a new gig [emoji6][emoji106]

[Steven79]

[emoji1787][emoji1787]. Come on Jack , you need to spend less time on this forum and get a new gig [emoji6][emoji106]

:thumbsup:

[MikeyS]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

What a massive pile of sheite!! Do you mean focus on team matters like winning 3 of his 1st 4 games??

[silverhibee]

Cheers bud. How you doing these days?

All good, just recovering from a infection and just had a couple of teeth yesterday, apart from that everything just rosey, ta for asking hope you are good. :thumbsup:

[Lago]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.
Deary me, very instructive.

[GreenPJ]

I think the broader context here is it wasn't just Jack Ross that was saying Hibs should let Boyle go. You had Kris Boyd spouting his usual nonsense, you had radio pundits going on about Hibs cannot/should not deny Boyle a life changing opportunity.

Hibs have a responsibility to themselves first and foremost - I don't think the club were being obstructive in the whole process, they only wanted their valuation met which clearly it has been now.

Its maybe unfortunate that Maloney's comments have come out as having a dig at Jack but effectively it should be seen as a defense that the club were only doing what every other club would and should do which is maximise the value they can get for any player.

I would have preferred a general statement to come from big Ben but don't have an issue with Maloney saying what he said.

[Pretty Boy]

I'd like to propose a bit of appreciation for usage of the word pipsqueak :faf:

Genuinely not heard that since primary school, I really hope it reenters the popular lexicon.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Mountain out of a molehill. No one was bothered about what Ross said yesterday but Maloney’s now made a headline out of it for some reason. Even the pundits were a bit surprised he’d chosen to make a thing of it.

Who cares if Boyle was speaking to Ross? I’ve spoken to old bosses that I’ve liked and respected before as well.

[Billy Whizz]

All good, just recovering from a infection and just had a couple of teeth yesterday, apart from that everything just rosey, ta for asking hope you are good. :thumbsup:

Still growing teeth at your age Silver😀

[heretoday]

Maloney is a bit touchy. He's in for a hard time as Hibs manager if that's the case.

[Pete]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Maloney isn't where he is by accident. You don't get to play for Celtic, be number 2 at the number one international team in the world, and manage an SPL side, all before you're 40, without having exceptional qualities.
This constant use of his physical stature to belittle him is ignorant to say the least. People with ideas, mental strength and a way with people are the ones who make it to the top in management nowadays. They are the ones who are worthy of respect, and Maloney's style, on and off the park, is the way the game is going I'm afraid. The dinosaurs will have to get their head round that.
Poor stuff

[Heisenberg]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Probably one of the worst posts I’ve read on here.

[flash]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Tell me you are being sarcastic.

[Pete]

Maloney is a bit touchy. He's in for a hard time as Hibs manager if that's the case.

I can understand why he's a bit miffed with Ross. It's his project now and he doesn't need any unhelpful input from anyone else.
Being touchy remains to be seen, but he seemed to handle all the abuse aimed at the players last night in the perfect manner. Staying calm and getting the message across to the players that they should stick to the game plan. A certain level of maturity there.

[hibeejeebies]

Maloney comments on Ross at 36:19.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0bjh056

Brilliant, cheers mate.

[MrRobot]

After Boyle's comments after Ross left, I wonder if he told his agent to get it sorted and wanted out.

i think it was more likely having 30k presented to him as a weekly wage made him want to leave :greengrin

[Since452]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Jack, i like you but it's time to move on mate.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Holy ****ing Jesus christ, what a crock of ****

[Hibs90]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Grow up

[Dr What If?]

Thought the comments about Boyle were a bit ‘look at me the players still love me’. .
That was my thought when I saw JR's comments, in a way saying its still his dressing room, what position does that put SM in? Lost a bit of respect for JR with that....I was in the camp that would have kept him but I fully understand why he was sacked, results were terrible and performances indicated they were merited.
Actually encouraged to hear Sean take the bull by the horns, rather than being this skinned I see it as strong leadership, its his team now and its his dressing room.

[Not In The Know]

That was my thought when I saw JR's comments, in a way saying its still his dressing room, what position does that put SM in? Lost a bit of respect for JR with that....I was in the camp that would have kept him but I fully understand why he was sacked, results were terrible and performances indicated they were merited.
Actually encouraged to hear Sean take the bull by the horns, rather than being this skinned I see it as strong leadership, its his team now and its his dressing room.


players love him so much he lost his job because of them.

[J-C]

i think it was more likely having 30k presented to him as a weekly wage made him want to leave :greengrin

That'll help 😁

[GreenGray]

If its purely just on the sun article then Maloney's comments are shocking almost Embarrassing. Ross never really said anything wrong (again if it's just the article) and don't know why he's so bothered

The previous manager coming out in the press telling the club to let their best player go? It’s disrespectful

[GreenGray]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Are you a Hibs fan or a Jack Ross fan?

[hhibs]

Thought his comments about losing his job were fair enough. Much as I was glad to see him go, from a professional perspective it was obvious he’d feel hard done by. Thought the comments about Boyle were a bit ‘look at me the players still love me’. Wonder if he’d have been in the press recommending the club let Boyle go if he was still in charge….


Good points.

I think this may be related to some sort of personal fall out with our owner and why JR was "disappeared" so abruptly.
(his results wouldn't have helped !)

[snedzuk]

"Martin Boyle... We'll know more in the next 24-48 hours but I have to say the boy himself has been very good, very professional"

Had to smile when he called Martin 'the boy', when he only looks about 13 himself. Infact, Martin Boyle looks older!

[GreenGray]

Maloney is a bit touchy. He's in for a hard time as Hibs manager if that's the case.

You’d probably moan if he was a pushover too

[West lower]

Ross is hurting and had a wee fit of pique but his comments were very mild compared to how he is really feeling.

Maloney is a wee pipsqueak though who has to earn the right to be "disrespected'.

He should learn to keep his wee gob shut and concentrate on team matters.

Funnily enough there is a guy over on kickback using “pipsqueak” to describe Maloney too. Amazing coincidence since this word was last heard when Hearts last won the League cup.

[hibeejeebies]

Can you get big pipsqueaks? 🤷🏻

[FilipinoHibs]

Funnily enough there is a guy over on kickback using “pipsqueak” to describe Maloney too. Amazing coincidence since this word was last heard when Hearts last won the League cup.

Pipsqueaks used extensively in 2020 to describe a number of Jambos moaning about being relegated for being bottom of the league.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

I'd like to propose a bit of appreciation for usage of the word pipsqueak :faf:

Genuinely not heard that since primary school, I really hope it reenters the popular lexicon.

Shut it, pointdexter 😉

[007]

JR given the chance just now on Sportscene to keep this going but chose not to.

[Lago]

JR given the chance just now on Sportscene to keep this going but chose not to.
Sensible decision, his comments on Boyle were unnecessary, the rest fine.

[Hibbyradge]

Mountain out of a molehill. No one was bothered about what Ross said yesterday but Maloney’s now made a headline out of it for some reason. Even the pundits were a bit surprised he’d chosen to make a thing of it.

Who cares if Boyle was speaking to Ross? I’ve spoken to old bosses that I’ve liked and respected before as well.

Exactly right.

[ahibby]

You’d probably moan if he was a pushover too

Maloney is a serious guy, he tells it as he sees it. He thinks he is right, perhaps always right. I hope we all know that no one is always right.

[H18 SFR]

Exactly right.

Do you not think the hosts/pundits are the ones who attempted to make something out of it? I was listening on the way home and the host on BBC Radio Scotland was audibly excited. Lee Miller pointed out it was headline grabbing at best from the Sun and Brian Rice declined to comment yet the host did persist. In this case it was the host.

Saying that, the host also did twice suggest the result from our game was a shock and asked where the next shock result would be this weekend and to top it off suggested Rangers v Stirling was “some tie”.

I’m not convinced either JR or SM has said anything particularly extreme.

[Hibbyradge]

players love him so much he lost his job because of them.

When did JR say the players love him?

That's a total myth.

He said that he'd been in touch with Martin Boyle who was asking for advice, like any professional does with their mentor.

Making things up to bash him with is unfair and detracts from what little merit their might be in the genuine issue.

[H18 SFR]

When did JR say the players love him?

That's a total myth.

He said that he'd been in touch with Martin Boyle who was asking for advice, like any professional does with their mentor.

Making things up to bash him with is unfair and detracts from what little merit their might be in the genuine issue.

Exactly, JR hasn’t said a lot wrong. Basically just what any reasonably minded person would say.

I can however see why SM would be annoyed, you rarely hear ex managers comment on their old club. More of an etiquette matter than an outrageous comment.

[Hibbyradge]

Do you not think the hosts/pundits are the ones who attempted to make something out of it? I was listening on the way home and the host on BBC Radio Scotland was audibly excited. Lee Miller pointed out it was headline grabbing at best from the Sun and Brian Rice declined to comment yet the host did persist. In this case it was the host.

Saying that, the host also did twice suggest the result from our game was a shock and asked where the next shock result would be this weekend and to top it off suggested Rangers v Stirling was “some tie”.

I’m not convinced either JR or SM has said anything particularly extreme.

Personally, I'd have said nothing publicly but if I felt aggrieved with JR'S remarks, I'd have picked the phone up and spoken to him.

There's no reason for JR to have anything against SM, so I'm sure it would have been resolved amicably.

Now, to me and a lot of others, it looks like SM is a bit thin skinned and overly sensitive.

He's going to face a lot of criticism, fair and unfair, from all sorts of directions, so to rise to such a small piece of bait this early in his career, seems unwise. The fact that he has done so will just encourage his detractors rather than frighten them off.

But, as has been pointed out by Danderhall, it really is a storm in a molehill, or something.

[The Modfather]

Personally, I'd have said nothing publicly but if I felt aggrieved with JR'S remarks, I'd have picked the phone up and spoken to him.

There's no reason for JR to have anything against SM, so I'm sure it would have been resolved amicably.

Now, to me and a lot of others, it looks like SM is a bit thin skinned and overly sensitive.

He's going to face a lot of criticism, fair and unfair, from all sorts of directions, so to rise to such a small piece of bait this early in his career, seems unwise. The fact that he has done so will just encourage his detractors rather than frighten them off.

But, as has been pointed out by Danderhall, it really is a storm in a molehill, or something.

I think talk of Maloney being thin skinned or over sensitive is making a bigger deal out of it, much the same as is the case with Jack Ross talking about Boyle. I think Ross said what he did out of self promotion and probably better not to have spoken about the transfer but he didn’t go overboard. Similarly Maloney made a comment in passing and hasn’t made it into a big issue.

Definitely mountain out of a molehill territory IMO.

[green day]

Of course, if Maloney said nothing there would have been loads on here saying that he should have reacted................

[Unseen work]

I think Ross knew exactly what he was doing.

Every answer in every interview was always carefully thought out, now he’s left he’s sharing his honest opinion on Boyle and that he should leave where as when he was with us and asked about another player he would have said “I’m not going to talk about other players out of respect for the club”.

He’s a very calculated man and was undermining the club imo.

I’m glad Maloney mentioned it - he hardly had a massive go at him like some are making out he only said things have been thought and the comments of an ex manager we’re disrespectful.

[Hibbyradge]

Of course, if Maloney said nothing there would have been loads on here saying that he should have reacted................

No-one said anything remotely like that when JRs comments were originally published.

In fact, most people said that his comments were fair enough.

[J-C]

Nothing wrong with Ross talking to an ex player but to suggest Hibs weren't doing the right thing by Boyle by not letting him leave was just wrong, hence why Maloney said what he did.

[Unseen work]

Nothing wrong with Ross talking to an ex player but to suggest Hibs weren't doing the right thing by Boyle by not letting him leave was just wrong, hence why Maloney said what he did.

100%

I’m sure Boyle never wanted Ross running to the press either detailing their chat.

[givescotlandfreedom]

Of course, if Maloney said nothing there would have been loads on here saying that he should have reacted................

Yeah, always soft touches etc.

[green day]

No-one said anything remotely like that when JRs comments were originally published.

In fact, most people said that his comments were fair enough.

Perhaps the right people were not commenting..................:greengrin

[Hibbyradge]

Perhaps the right people were not commenting..................:greengrin

Fine margins...

[Hibbyradge]

Nothing wrong with Ross talking to an ex player but to suggest Hibs weren't doing the right thing by Boyle by not letting him leave was just wrong, hence why Maloney said what he did.

He didn't suggest that.

[JamesHFC]

JR given the chance just now on Sportscene to keep this going but chose not to.

Bottled it.

[Billy Whizz]

Bottled it.

Hardly

[J-C]

He didn't suggest that.

He suggested Hibs should allow Boyle to leave, the club was in that process as we've seen already.

[Hibbyradge]

He suggested Hibs should allow Boyle to leave, the club was in that process as we've seen already.

Exactly. It's like one of the kid on ITK folk posting rumours after they're already well known.

He didn't suggest Hibs weren't doing the right thing as your post stated.

[h1bs4life]

I think Ross knew exactly what he was doing.

Every answer in every interview was always carefully thought out, now he’s left he’s sharing his honest opinion on Boyle and that he should leave where as when he was with us and asked about another player he would have said “I’m not going to talk about other players out of respect for the club”.

He’s a very calculated man and was undermining the club imo.

I’m glad Maloney mentioned it - he hardly had a massive go at him like some are making out he only said things have been thought and the comments of an ex manager we’re disrespectful.

Also glad Maloney mentioned it , Ross talking nonsense to make him sound relevant and let people know he is still there.
Maybe the jobs he thought were going to come his way haven't materialised although it seemed to help him get a job as a pundit for the BBC at a junior ground between a junior football team having played at that level himself and his former employer .
Now he is part of the BBC pundits won't belong before he is sharing a cup of team with one of his mentors Dr Football

[Keepthefaith]

I think Ross knew exactly what he was doing.

Every answer in every interview was always carefully thought out, now he’s left he’s sharing his honest opinion on Boyle and that he should leave where as when he was with us and asked about another player he would have said “I’m not going to talk about other players out of respect for the club”.

He’s a very calculated man and was undermining the club imo.

I’m glad Maloney mentioned it - he hardly had a massive go at him like some are making out he only said things have been thought and the comments of an ex manager we’re disrespectful.

this is where I'm at too - was a big fan of jacks but think he's made an error here. he was always ultra considered - something that made lots of folk say made his interviews dull! glad to hear Maloney react tbh.

[blackpoolhibs]

I've no problem with what either said, in fact the more i think of it, Maloney may be trying to get a siege mentality at the club, and defend everything thats percieved to be negative against the club? :dunno:

[silverhibee]

Nothing wrong with Ross talking to an ex player but to suggest Hibs weren't doing the right thing by Boyle by not letting him leave was just wrong, hence why Maloney said what he did.

Yeah nothing wrong with it, but should never have went public about it, maybe Hibs and Maloney were still trying to convince Boyle to stay at ER until summer where he could get a move then, no club likes to lose there best player in the January window, under Ron we have made it quite clear that players won’t leave the club unless the valuation is met but here we had the ex manager basically saying to Hibs that Boyle should be allowed his dream move through the Sun newspaper, that’s a no no.

Glad to see Sean is going to stand his ground regards the club, he ain’t thin skinned and he is no push over either and Jack Ross should not have been chatting to the papers about the transfer of our player.

[Stanton Spence]

I don't think Jack Ross said much wrong apart from the Boyle chat, which I actually think Ross more or less knew a deal was done bar the shouting. The timing wasn't great should we say

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[Hibiza]

Jack Ross on the tv Jamboloids game , he was being , eh ,just Jack Ross .

[Iggy Pope]

I think we might see and hear a lot more of Jack Ross as a pundit and he will probably piss us off!!!