Jack Ross

[Unseen work]

Appears to have came out and now being quite vocal about a couple of things.

The sacking
His close relationship with players
Selling Boyle
The final

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8306142/jack-ross-breaks-silence-hibs-sacking-agonising-injustice/

https://canadanews.fr/jack-ross-on-his-celtic-hibs-premier-sports-cup-final-heartache-as-he-reveals-detailed-planning-which-went-into-big-day/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8306320/jack-ross-hibs-boyle-pursue-saudi-recent-chat/

An interesting quote from one of them “But at that stage I still felt sore at what had happened and it’s fair to say there were certain people within the club I wasn’t enamoured with.
“They were getting to be involved in a big game and yet I was in the house.
Injustice“

Wonder if he’d be saying the same about Boyle if he was the manager.

For as surprised as I was when he was sacked and the timing of it.

Our recent record was awful and the football was putting a lot of fans off going to games and the club recognised this with no obvious signs of improving.

[Halmyre Hibee]

It’s a results based business. The style of football sometimes wasn’t pleasing on the eye but he done reasonably well. Supporters were not going to matches which was partly down to the style of football on show and the owner made the difficult decision to try and change things for the better. Going to be interesting to see if it works out with Maloney.

[Scooter]

I don't think he's said anything wrong.

I really liked him, I'm still undecided if it was the right thing to do, I do probably think he should have been given a little more time

[Spike Mandela]

I think Hibs treated Jack Ross appallingly and think he did have some credit in the bank from the results over his two years. To sack him just before the cup final was foolhardy, mean and unHibslike imo.

Obviously I hope Shaun Maloney does well and takes us onward and upward but I wonder if they might end up regretting getting rid of Ross when they did. Time will tell.

[basehibby]

Everything he says is totally fair - albeit we were on a poor run I definitely thought he had some credit in the bank and to boot him before the cup final was an extremely sore one. Sacking him at that point probably didnt do anything for our chances of winning the final and I'll be honest - I was gobsmacked. But it seems that Ron did not agree with that assessment and he's the man in charge. I hope his judgement is good and that Maloney will prove to be a great appointment. He'll have to be by the look of things or wont last long!

[007]

Don't have any issues with what he's said and wish him good luck in his next appointment.

[CB Hibs 68]

Read the article in the Record.If I was Ross there is no doubt I would be disappointed at the timing of his sacking.Problem for him was that he was on a very disappointing run of form and the fans were split in terms of whether to keep him or not.Personally I was in the keep him camp but could see why Ron made the decision.What pisses me off about the article I read was Martin Boyle being on the blower to him to seek his advice and him making this public knowledge.Typical media coverage which reflects negatively on the club.Boyle can go when Hibs valuation is met not before.

[neil7908]

At this point I just want to move on. Jack hasn't said anything wrong, and he has a right of course to speak about these things but as I fan I'm tired of hearing about Lennon, Stubbs etc.

Full support to Maloney and let's keep our eyes on the road ahead rather than what's behind us.

[Greenio]

Fair enough.

Ive always said he had more credit in the bank to be let go when he did and the fact it denied him a final was an just an xtra swift kick in the baws he didn't deserve.

Clearly this is him putting himself in the shop window, be interesting to see where he ends up.

Good luck to the guy

[Winston Ingram]

I don’t think he’s said anything wrong there apart from sticking his nose into the Boyle situation.

He’s still employed by Hibs so he might be getting a rap on the knuckles from us.

You never really see sacked managers acknowledge their failings when they are sacked.

Our football was dull, we really lacked intensity, tactically he was utterly baffling at times and the regression of Nisbet has been spectacular.

I think however there’s a good manager in there. He speaks really well, the players like him, but he probably needs to change his back room staff to help him tactically because at the moment, he’s miles off it.

[hibby rae]

I left the final thinking if Ross had been in charge we would have won the game.

And it's possible Gordon wanted to get rid of Ross for a while and he recognised he had a small window of opportunity where kr could be seen as an understandable decision. If we had won the cup under Ross it would have been very difficult to justify letting him go.

Not sure it was the right call letting him go, I do acknowledge style of play could be bad sometimes, however when Maloney was linked he was the one I wanted and early signs are good. Hopefully by the end of the season we can say it was the right thing to do.

I wonder if Queens Park would be a good shout for Ross moving forwards. Got a bit of money, seem to be going the right direction. Getting them into the Championship would be good for his cv and I don't think there's many other attractive options in Scotland for him.

[JohnM1875]

'I'm not bitter about it. But...'

Regardless of whether I thought he should have been sacked or not I don't think anyone would have grudged him being in charge for the final. So I agree with him there.

[G15 Hibs]

I wonder if Queens Park would be a good shout for Ross moving forwards. Got a bit of money, seem to be going the right direction. Getting them into the Championship would be good for his cv and I don't think there's many other attractive options in Scotland for him.

Perhaps notable that John Potter took up a coaching role at Queen's Park last week.

[CapitalGreen]

I left the final thinking if Ross had been in charge we would have won the game.


That’s interesting because I left the Dundee, St Mirren, Dun Utd, Aberdeen, Ross County, Motherwell and Livingston games prior to his sacking thinking if a better manager had been in charge we would have won the game.

[Hibbyradge]

Read the article in the Record.If I was Ross there is no doubt I would be disappointed at the timing of his sacking.Problem for him was that he was on a very disappointing run of form and the fans were split in terms of whether to keep him or not.Personally I was in the keep him camp but could see why Ron made the decision.What pisses me off about the article I read was Martin Boyle being on the blower to him to seek his advice and him making this public knowledge.Typical media coverage which reflects negatively on the club.Boyle can go when Hibs valuation is met not before.

I think players can take advice from whomever they want. There is no reflection on the club at all.

Martin lnows JR well, gets on with him, and respects and trusts him.

Whether JR was in the best frame of mind to give advice regarding Hibs or not is anyone's guess.

[bingo70]

I don’t think he’s said anything wrong there apart from sticking his nose into the Boyle situation.

He’s still employed by Hibs so he might be getting a rap on the knuckles from us.

You never really see sacked managers acknowledge their failings when they are sacked.

Our football was dull, we really lacked intensity, tactically he was utterly baffling at times and the regression of Nisbet has been spectacular.

I think however there’s a good manager in there. He speaks really well, the players like him, but he probably needs to change his back room staff to help him tactically because at the moment, he’s miles off it.

I think he’s a decent manager, no more, no less. I don’t think he’ll ever go on to do anything brilliant but then I could see him getting a job soon enough at a smaller club and doing alright. I wonder if he might even find himself as something of a firefighter specialist. The sort of guy that clubs can turn to in order to get themselves out of trouble, but not someone you see as taking the club forward.

I’m not surprised he’s disappointed at being sacked, on paper he did a pretty decent job and that’s the way he’ll judge his time here.

Unfortunately for him, doing a good job on paper doesn’t put bums on seats and there was enough there to suggest too many people weren’t buying into his Hibs team. I don’t doubt he would have arrested the slide and stopped the losing run. Would he have turned it around to the extent that people wanted to pay good money to watch his Hibs team? I personally don’t think there’s any chance of that. The only way the club will grow is by getting fans into the stadium and I’m personally delighted our owner has recognised that.

Ross says there it’s a results business, when you’re employed in the game I understand why he would think that, he also needs to recognise its in the entertainment industry as well though.

That’s his last 2 jobs he’s been sacked while complaining he’s been harshly treated, he maybe needs to reflect on that as well though.

Good luck to the guy, he wasn’t my cup of tea but I’m sure he’ll get an alright job in the not too distant future. No issues with anything he says in the papers today.

[hibby rae]

That’s interesting because I left the Dundee, St Mirren, Dun Utd, Aberdeen, Ross County, Motherwell and Livingston games prior to his sacking thinking if a better manager had been in charge we would have won the game.

It's a funny old game. We'd be fighting for the league title if we'd won those.

[CapitalGreen]

It's a funny old game. We'd be fighting for the league title if we'd won those.

A win in just half of them and we wouldn’t be trailing an average Hearts team by 10 points.

[EVENTUALLY]

Appears to have came out and now being quite vocal about a couple of things.

The sacking
His close relationship with players
Selling Boyle
The final

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8306142/jack-ross-breaks-silence-hibs-sacking-agonising-injustice/

https://canadanews.fr/jack-ross-on-his-celtic-hibs-premier-sports-cup-final-heartache-as-he-reveals-detailed-planning-which-went-into-big-day/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8306320/jack-ross-hibs-boyle-pursue-saudi-recent-chat/

An interesting quote from one of them “But at that stage I still felt sore at what had happened and it’s fair to say there were certain people within the club I wasn’t enamoured with.
“They were getting to be involved in a big game and yet I was in the house.
Injustice“

Wonder if he’d be saying the same about Boyle if he was the manager.

For as surprised as I was when he was sacked and the timing of it.

Our recent record was awful and the football was putting a lot of fans off going to games and the club recognised this with no obvious signs of improving.

I'd guess Ian Gordon.

[hibby rae]

Perhaps notable that John Potter took up a coaching role at Queen's Park last week.

I imagine he had a good relationship with Leeane Dempster as well.

Would be a bit of a statement by Queens. And it's seen as quite acceptable for managers to drop down a level to kickstart their careers.
E.g. Clarke going to Killie, Hartley to Cove, McInnes to Killie, even Lennon to us.

[hibby rae]

A win in just half of them and we wouldn’t be trailing an average Hearts team by 10 points.

Hearts have the best keeper in the league. If they didn't have him they'd be around where we are. 10 points is not a massive number at this point in the season, especially with 3 derbies to go.

I think for a lot of those, you need to take into account players missing. The Dundee Utd one being a prime example, the spine of the team was out. Others we could have done better but the opposition played well and were worthy of rhe pint e.g. St Mirren.

[LunasBoots]

In hindsight should have been given the final, his football style however left alot to be desired this season, performances and style of play dropped away to unacceptable levels and that falls on the management

[erin go bragh]

I left the final thinking if Ross had been in charge we would have won the game. 🤷*♂️🤷*♂️

And it's possible Gordon wanted to get rid of Ross for a while and he recognised he had a small window of opportunity where kr could be seen as an understandable decision. If we had won the cup under Ross it would have been very difficult to justify letting him go.

Not sure it was the right call letting him go, I do acknowledge style of play could be bad sometimes, however when Maloney was linked he was the one I wanted and early signs are good. Hopefully by the end of the season we can say it was the right thing to do.

I wonder if Queens Park would be a good shout for Ross moving forwards. Got a bit of money, seem to be going the right direction. Getting them into the Championship would be good for his cv and I don't think there's many other attractive options in Scotland for him.
Jack Ross never tasted victory for us agains Celtic. Fwiw If SM had been appointed a week earlier, I think we might have beat them .

[bingo70]

I'd guess Ian Gordon.

It was also meant to be Graham Mathie.

If thats Mathie and Ian Gordon he didn’t get on with, the people at Sunderland he fell out with about the signing of Will Grigg and Craig Levein when he left Hearts (I know I know)…… maybe its him that needs to look at how he manages relationships at clubs.

He strikes me as someone that doesn’t like to be challenged, see also the argument he had with St Mirren fans in the stand, maybe that’s part of the problem here.

I don’t know though, never met the man.

[hibby rae]

Jack Ross never tasted victory for us agains Celtic. Fwiw If SM had been appointed a week earlier, I think we might have beat them .

Tbf we could have said the same thing before the semi about Rangers too.

I would probably agree with your point about Maloney as well. My feeling is that SDG, understandably as he was only temp manager, was reluctant to, or unsure of, making changes when they were needed in the game. One of Ross' strengthes was making changes which swung a game

[CapitalGreen]

Hearts have the best keeper in the league. If they didn't have him they'd be around where we are. 10 points is not a massive number at this point in the season, especially with 3 derbies to go.

I think for a lot of those, you need to take into account players missing. The Dundee Utd one being a prime example, the spine of the team was out. Others we could have done better but the opposition played well and were worthy of rhe pint e.g. St Mirren.

The only guaranteed starter really missing in that Dun Utd defeat compared to our win on Boxing Day was Porteous. That’s no excuse for getting pumped 3-0 at home by a team who have averaged less than 1 goal a game this season.

[CapitalGreen]

In hindsight should have been given the final, his football style however left alot to be desired this season, performances and style of play dropped away to unacceptable levels and that falls on the management

Giving him the final would have delayed getting our new manager in and we’d now probably be sitting closer to 20 points off 3rd rather than 10.

[SlickShoes]

The rangers game was an outlier, the other games we played with Ross as manager leading up to his sacking went the exact same way almost as the games we played after he was sacked, we looked equally as bad, ponderous, lost.

Even in the cup final, we made the same defensive lapses we had been making all season under Ross, it was almost like he was still there.

I liked him as our manager, but now he is not and he has an axe to grind, so I'll take whatever he says with a pinch of salt and move on.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’m surprised at the lasting dislike some have for him.

I just hope support future managers when they have a bad spell.

[Nicho87]

So basically focus on the good times and forget the miserable run he was on and how the fans were dwindling away and also calling for his head.

Sorry but it was good (results) first 16 months. After that it was always a case of defending the players and being too one dimensional.

Will be a good appointment for a st Johnstone etc but his football wasn’t pleasing on the eye. We were warned by Sunderland fans and that came true eventually.

[Stevie Reid]

Can understand his feelings, and not much in the one I read (The Sun) that I would argue against.

On paper he still has a very strong CV, and I would expect he'd be the top choice for any of the bottom six teams if they were to sack their manager this season.

[bingo70]

I’m surprised at the lasting dislike some have for him.

I just hope support future managers when they have a bad spell.

I’m maybe missing it but I don’t see a real dislike for him in this thread?

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’m maybe missing it but I don’t see a real dislike for him in this thread?

This thread is fairly light with it - just an under current. Twitter is a different story.

[hibby rae]

The only guaranteed starter really missing in that Dun Utd defeat compared to our win on Boxing Day was Porteous. That’s no excuse for getting pumped 3-0 at home by a team who have averaged less than 1 goal a game this season.

Magennis and Doidge too. Up until we lost all them, they were all starting and were our spine.

If Doidge had been available, Mulgrew would have been nulified, as it was he was free to stroll out with the ball picking passes. Magennis was the driving force in midfield, I love Allan but he doesn't give you that quality. Missing both those players left Nisbet isolated, as we have seen on a few occasions.

And around that time, Utd were probably the form team in the league.

I'm not saying losing 3-0 at home is excusable, it shouldn't be to any team. But you have to acknowledge the context it happened in.

[bigwheel]

It’s only natural that Ross felt wounded by the sacking . He will look at the progress he had made. The club looked at the more recent results and lack of a trophy no doubt .

Fwiw, I think he can rightly be proud by and large with what he achieved . The lack of a trophy will be his biggest regret and the one item that is lacking in his track record with us.

He built great relationships with many players - so no surprising those remain in place .

If Maloney betters his win rate and achievements we will be in good hands . That’s what we are all looking for .

I can see Ross going on to do some good things. He will be better off from his experience with us .

Wish him all the best .

[Callum_62]

A win in just half of them and we wouldn’t be trailing an average Hearts team by 10 points.Do we ever give other teams credit?

Hearts are on to get what 70 plus points?

Average.

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[SlickShoes]

I think his sacking was always inevitable too, he was not the choice of the new owners, they came in right after he did so they couldn't immediately get rid of him without looking utterly ruthless/crazy. It always looked to me like as soon as there was a chance to change things they would, but while Ross was doing alright there was no need to rock the boat, then we stopped winning, and started sliding down the league.

[SlickShoes]

Do we ever give other teams credit?

Hearts are on to get what 70 plus points?

Average.

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Just like when people still say that the Rangers aren't what they used to be, despite having only lost 1 league game in the last year and a half.

Whenever we lose any game there is never any recognition that the opposing team did anything good, Hibs just exist in a vacuum for many people and other teams only exist for us to defeat.

[Callum_62]

Just like when people still say that the Rangers aren't what they used to be, despite having only lost 1 league game in the last year and a half.

Whenever we lose any game there is never any recognition that the opposing team did anything good, Hibs just exist in a vacuum for many people and other teams only exist for us to defeat.The OF are there for the taking this year!

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[J-C]

It was also meant to be Graham Mathie.

If thats Mathie and Ian Gordon he didn’t get on with, the people at Sunderland he fell out with about the signing of Will Grigg and Craig Levein when he left Hearts (I know I know)…… maybe its him that needs to look at how he manages relationships at clubs.

He strikes me as someone that doesn’t like to be challenged, see also the argument he had with St Mirren fans in the stand, maybe that’s part of the problem here.

I don’t know though, never met the man.

Seemingly fell out with Ron a couple of months earlier, hence why there was no qualms about sacking him when he did.

[Northernhibee]

I like him on a personal level and agree with him on some points, but when you look at the apathy that the fans ended up with towards the football on offer, if he wasn’t winning he was going to be under pressure quickly. It was the exact same at Sunderland too. It can take years to reverse fan apathy, sometimes you never fully do.

Maybe the cup final would have been nice, but he’s contributed a fair bit to his removal from his position.

I still wish him well though.

[Pretty Boy]

To succeed in football you have to have a real belief in your own ability. Of course Jack Ross is aggrieved he was sacked because he will really believe he would have turned our form around and won us the cup.

I wouldn't expect much else from him, or anyone else in that position. Ultimately though we were on a dire run of form, he was something of a Marmite figure and the club wanted to go in a different direction. He'll get another job soon enough and I daresay the injustice he feels will be a motivating factor.

What's done is done. I was never very vocal about wanting JR sacked but I'm not sorry he is gone either.

[hibby rae]

I like him on a personal level and agree with him on some points, but when you look at the apathy that the fans ended up with towards the football on offer, if he wasn’t winning he was going to be under pressure quickly. It was the exact same at Sunderland too. It can take years to reverse fan apathy, sometimes you never fully do.

Maybe the cup final would have been nice, but he’s contributed a fair bit to his removal from his position.

I still wish him well though.

Same situation at Aberdeen under McInnes and Killie under Wright.

[Since452]

In the cold light of day I'm disappointed he isn't our manager still. I think we'll regret getting rid. He's gone though so fully behind the new one.

[dp00]

I'd guess Ian Gordon.

Do we know what his role is yet ? He seems to be hanging around the club however from what I’ve seen I’m not sure of his role


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[onfire]

I think Hibs treated Jack Ross appallingly and think he did have some credit in the bank from the results over his two years. To sack him just before the cup final was foolhardy, mean and unHibslike imo.

Obviously I hope Shaun Maloney does well and takes us onward and upward but I wonder if they might end up regretting getting rid of Ross when they did. Time will tell.

100% - worst decision hibs have make sacking wise. All things taken into account - he did a fantastic job albeit on a poor run but with many marginal 1-0 defeats.

All said and done I hope Shaun does really well and water under the bridge now.

[bingo70]

Do we know what his role is yet ? He seems to be hanging around the club however from what I’ve seen I’m not sure of his role


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Ben Kinsell said he’s a senior member of the recruitment team.

[Billy Whizz]

Ben Kinsell said he’s a senior member of the recruitment team.


He’s head of recruitment
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/club-directory

[delbert]

100% - worst decision hibs have make sacking wise. All things taken into account - he did a fantastic job albeit on a poor run but with many marginal 1-0 defeats.

All said and done I hope Shaun does really well and water under the bridge now.

The guy should have been sacked after losing the Scottish Cup Final to an inferior team, three times we couldn’t even score against that mob and he set the team up to lose in the final, playing exactly the same way as they had in the previous two fixtures, tactically inept, and his record in the bigger games was utterly woeful, a serial loser who we are better off without.

[blackpoolhibs]

100% - worst decision hibs have make sacking wise. All things taken into account - he did a fantastic job albeit on a poor run but with many marginal 1-0 defeats.

All said and done I hope Shaun does really well and water under the bridge now.
:agree:

[bingo70]

He’s head of recruitment
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/club-directory

There you go, and to think some people said there was a lack of clarity about his involvement 😉

I think the problem here is how it’s been communicated. Instead of it being announced that Ron Gordon had bought the club, they should have said the Gordon family had bought it with Ron overseeing everything while another family member would be more involved in the day to day running of the club.

To wait this long and sort of sneak him in the back door was always likely to look a bit shady.

[oneone73]

He’s head of recruitment
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/club-directory

No mention of Steve Kean in that directory that I can see. Needs updating.

[blackpoolhibs]

No mention of Steve Kean in that directory that I can see. Needs updating.

He's there, Academy Director.

[Billy Whizz]

No mention of Steve Kean in that directory that I can see. Needs updating.

It’s up to date, he’s under football staff

Noticed our Head of Academy Sports Medicine and Science, Steve Curnyn, left this week. He’s still on it

[BILLYHIBS]

The guy should have been sacked after losing the Scottish Cup Final to an inferior team, three times we couldn’t even score against that mob and he set the team up to lose in the final, playing exactly the same way as they had in the previous two fixtures, tactically inept, and his record in the bigger games was utterly woeful, a serial loser who we are better off without.
:top marks

[FilipinoHibs]

Magennis and Doidge too. Up until we lost all them, they were all starting and were our spine.

If Doidge had been available, Mulgrew would have been nulified, as it was he was free to stroll out with the ball picking passes. Magennis was the driving force in midfield, I love Allan but he doesn't give you that quality. Missing both those players left Nisbet isolated, as we have seen on a few occasions.

And around that time, Utd were probably the form team in the league.

I'm not saying losing 3-0 at home is excusable, it shouldn't be to any team. But you have to acknowledge the context it happened in.

But one player change and a new manager and we completely dominated them by simply passing the ball to a team mate instead of humping it long and at their patch.

[Danderhall Hibs]

The guy should have been sacked after losing the Scottish Cup Final to an inferior team, three times we couldn’t even score against that mob and he set the team up to lose in the final, playing exactly the same way as they had in the previous two fixtures, tactically inept, and his record in the bigger games was utterly woeful, a serial loser who we are better off without.

Mental.

[Danderhall Hibs]

But one player change and a new manager and we completely dominated them by simply passing the ball to a team mate instead of humping it long and at their patch.

The 0-3 loss was either side of two 1-3 away wins vs them.

[HFC93]

Exclusive:Sacked football manager unhappy at the circumstances that lead to him losing his job.

[onfire]

The guy should have been sacked after losing the Scottish Cup Final to an inferior team, three times we couldn’t even score against that mob and he set the team up to lose in the final, playing exactly the same way as they had in the previous two fixtures, tactically inept, and his record in the bigger games was utterly woeful, a serial loser who we are better off without.

Know some fans like yourself with that opinion - I’m
Just not one of them - but what’s been done is done.

[hibby rae]

But one player change and a new manager and we completely dominated them by simply passing the ball to a team mate instead of humping it long and at their patch.

4 changes from us to the previous game, Ports, Campbell, Lewie and Drey Wright all started. 4 from United as well. Plus United's form nosedived a couple weeks after the Easter Road tie and still hasn't recovered.

[Danderhall Hibs]

4 changes from us to the previous game, Ports, Campbell, Lewie and Drey Wright all started. 4 from United as well. Plus United's form nosedived a couple weeks after the Easter Road tie and still hasn't recovered.

Think they've lost 6 in a row now. Courts' continual clichés must now be sounding empty.

[lord bunberry]

So basically focus on the good times and forget the miserable run he was on and how the fans were dwindling away and also calling for his head.

Sorry but it was good (results) first 16 months. After that it was always a case of defending the players and being too one dimensional.

Will be a good appointment for a st Johnstone etc but his football wasn’t pleasing on the eye. We were warned by Sunderland fans and that came true eventually.
You say fans were dwindling away, how many fans that that were staying away because of Ross will be heading along tonight?

[J-C]

You say fans were dwindling away, how many fans that that were staying away because of Ross will be heading along tonight?

Daft post, early round cup game against Cove on a Thursday night on council telly.

[B.H.F.C]

You say fans were dwindling away, how many fans that that were staying away because of Ross will be heading along tonight?

We’re surely no pretending the dwindling attendances had nothing to do with Jack Ross? Absolutely NOT everything to do with him, but it played a part.

Will take time to get those people back. Do well, they’ll start to come back, don’t and they won’t. Will be interesting to see if there is a better turnout of season ticket holders next Saturday.

[lord bunberry]

We’re surely no pretending the dwindling attendances had nothing to do with Jack Ross? Absolutely NOT everything to do with him, but it played a part.

Will take time to get those people back. Do well, they’ll start to come back, don’t and they won’t. Will be interesting to see if there is a better turnout of season ticket holders next Saturday.
We’ll see how much of an affect he was having in the future games, but tonight will be the second home game since he left that will see empty stands. I think the fact that season ticket holders can watch on tv was the main reason they weren’t attending.

[Northernhibee]

You say fans were dwindling away, how many fans that that were staying away because of Ross will be heading along tonight?

The problem is that once someone gets out of a habit, it's very difficult to get them back into the habit.

If anything, your post adds weight on why it was time for Ross to go before he potentially did long term damage to attendances.

[Gordy M]

Daft post, early round cup game against Cove on a Thursday night on council telly.

Yes those are reasons the crowd may not be that large, however if Ross was still here you can guarantee that the low crowd would be used as evidence he was the reason.

[NorthNorfolkHFC]

You say fans were dwindling away, how many fans that that were staying away because of Ross will be heading along tonight?

I am.

I was bored watching a JR team, found excuses on a Saturday not to go.

[Hibs4185]

Do we know what his role is yet ? He seems to be hanging around the club however from what I’ve seen I’m not sure of his role


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Personally I’m glad that his son is heavily involved. If RG were to die or become incapacitated then it is a possibility his family would sell us or act in their own interests.

If Ian is involved and that scenario occurs then he is more likely to carry on his father’s wishes/desire.

[Stuart93]

Jack Ross doing a lot of talking for a head coach who couldn’t get his team up for a Scottish Cup final against St.Johnstone

[Northernhibee]

I really do think that Jack needs to do a bit more self reflecting.

Got Sunderland to a cup final (the Checkatrade trophy or whatever it's called) but lost to Portsmouth. Got them close to promotion but didn't quite manage to pull it off. Fans complaining of dull football that was over-cautious. Rumours of a bit of a falling out with a couple of figures there. Some great results but some absolute howlers of results. That combined eventually cost him his job.

Came to Hibs. Got us third in the league - and you know, fair play. I think that's a really good achievement. Got us to two cup semi finals and was in charge for one cup final, didn't pull it off. Fans complaining of dull football that was over-cautious. Rumours of a bit of a falling out with a figure or so. Some great results but also quite a few absolute howlers of results. Falling attendances. That combined eventually cost him his job.


It may be been fairly brutal the way he was punted but it's a fairly brutal sport. There are things he could change and I think that if he had done so successfully may have still seen him in charge of Hibs.

It's cruel, but it's a cruel sport in a cruel world.

[h1bs4life]

The guy should have been sacked after losing the Scottish Cup Final to an inferior team, three times we couldn’t even score against that mob and he set the team up to lose in the final, playing exactly the same way as they had in the previous two fixtures, tactically inept, and his record in the bigger games was utterly woeful, a serial loser who we are better off without.

100% spot on .Played the same formation against St Johnstone in the final as he had done previously loosing most of the games Add the Scottish Cup semi final defeat to a lower league team just off furlough and the League Cup semi final drubbing by St Johnstone as well.
I thought when he came in it was a good move but some doubts appeared when the drunken german set up a team to beat us fairly easy 3-1 at Easter Road just before lockdown.
Got some good results away from home when there were no crowds but home record wasn't great and then the poor league form this season there was only one thing going to happen
Don't have a dislike for Ross just turned out he wasn't as good as I thought he would be when he came in.

[Danderhall Hibs]

100% spot on .Played the same formation against St Johnstone in the final as he had done previously loosing most of the games Add the Scottish Cup semi final defeat to a lower league team just off furlough and the League Cup semi final drubbing by St Johnstone as well.
I thought when he came in it was a good move but some doubts appeared when the drunken german set up a team to beat us fairly easy 3-1 at Easter Road just before lockdown.
Got some good results away from home when there were no crowds but home record wasn't great and then the poor league form this season there was only one thing going to happen
Don't have a dislike for Ross just turned out he wasn't as good as I thought he would be when he came in.

I'm sure with hindsight he'd have chosen to lose to Motherwell on pens in the QF. Would've saved him some amount of grief.

Hope Maloney's reading this - only get to finals if you're guaranteed to win them or don't bother at all. Oh and win every derby or start packing your bags.

[Lago]

I really do think that Jack needs to do a bit more self reflecting.

Got Sunderland to a cup final (the Checkatrade trophy or whatever it's called) but lost to Portsmouth. Got them close to promotion but didn't quite manage to pull it off. Fans complaining of dull football that was over-cautious. Rumours of a bit of a falling out with a couple of figures there. Some great results but some absolute howlers of results. That combined eventually cost him his job.

Came to Hibs. Got us third in the league - and you know, fair play. I think that's a really good achievement. Got us to two cup semi finals and was in charge for one cup final, didn't pull it off. Fans complaining of dull football that was over-cautious. Rumours of a bit of a falling out with a figure or so. Some great results but also quite a few absolute howlers of results. Falling attendances. That combined eventually cost him his job.


It may be been fairly brutal the way he was punted but it's a fairly brutal sport. There are things he could change and I think that if he had done so successfully may have still seen him in charge of Hibs.

It's cruel, but it's a cruel sport in a cruel world.
Excellent summary, I know that personally I had reached a point of becoming disinterested in Hibs, looked for their results but not supprised by some of them particularly after Hampden run outs.

[WestStandWillie]

Got third regardless of who was or wasnae in the league but his fitbaw was awful.

Watching the games during lockdown was a chore and it didn't really improve when back in the stadium (there were a couple of exceptions).

To repeat the same mistakes against St Johnstone was criminal, Davidson must have thought he had one hand on the cup when he seen our lineup.

No ill feeling towards Jack, just wish he never went blabbing to that newspaper.

[h1bs4life]

I'm sure with hindsight he'd have chosen to lose to Motherwell on pens in the QF. Would've saved him some amount of grief.

Hope Maloney's reading this - only get to finals if you're guaranteed to win them or don't bother at all. Oh and win every derby or start packing your bags.

No idea what the quarter final has got to do with anything.
He set up a team to play St Johnstone in a Scottish Cup Final exactly the same as he had in many other games against them without much success including a 3-0 drubbing in a semi final at Hampden .
Most of us knew if St Johnstone went 1-0 up it was game over .

[Danderhall Hibs]

No idea what the quarter final has got to do with anything.
.

If he’d lost it (or should I say the team had lost it) then folk wouldn’t have been banging on about an unforgivable loss for the remainder of his time. Waiting on a bad run to have a pop, being continually negative and generally not being supportive.

[h1bs4life]

If he’d lost it (or should I say the team had lost it) then folk wouldn’t have been banging on about an unforgivable loss for the remainder of his time. Waiting on a bad run to have a pop, being continually negative and generally not being supportive.

He never got sacked after the cup final or are you saying if we had lost to Motherwell in the quarter final then we wouldn't have gone on the horrendous run that led to his sacking.

[J-C]

Yes those are reasons the crowd may not be that large, however if Ross was still here you can guarantee that the low crowd would be used as evidence he was the reason.

Not on a night like tonight though which was what the poster was saying. Let's see how we go league game wise, especially if the football becomes more enjoyable to watch.

[zitelli62]

Ross lost the fans when that happens at most clubs there is only one outcome look at benitez same thing happened.

[Hibbyradge]

The problem is that once someone gets out of a habit, it's very difficult to get them back into the habit.

That couldn't be further from the truth.

Faling back into old habits is the easiest thing to do.

But I do understand your point. :greengrin

[overdrive]

I think his sacking was always inevitable too, he was not the choice of the new owners, they came in right after he did so they couldn't immediately get rid of him without looking utterly ruthless/crazy. It always looked to me like as soon as there was a chance to change things they would, but while Ross was doing alright there was no need to rock the boat, then we stopped winning, and started sliding down the league.

Jack Ross was appointed by the new/current owners (probably in conjunction with LD). Heckingbottom was the manager when they took over and it was under RG's watch that he was sacked and Ross appointed.

Heckingbottom was appointed Feb 19; Gordon bought Hibs in Jul 19; Heckingbottom was sacked Nov 19 and Jack Ross appointed in Nov 19.

[H18 SFR]

Fans are so fickle. If we lose tonight there will be folk on here saying SM should be sacked.

[Since452]

Fans are so fickle. If we lose tonight there will be folk on here saying SM should be sacked.

There will be. Guaranteed.

[Danderhall Hibs]

He never got sacked after the cup final or are you saying if we had lost to Motherwell in the quarter final then we wouldn't have gone on the horrendous run that led to his sacking.

I'm saying if he'd not been as good at winning cup matches then when he/we had our first bad run under him he wouldn't have had the angry mob chasing after him.

As it was he won too many cup matches which heightened expectation and led to his downfall - "he'll need to win the first few matches of the season to get me onside", "I'll wait an reserve judgement until the first derby" and so on until finally he/we lost a few games and it all came crashing on on him. Some folk were living for a 4 match run - going 6 (or however many it was) sent them into over drive.

[Danderhall Hibs]

There will be. Guaranteed.

Depends - if we play good football and lose most will be ok with it. And it's not a big game either.

[bigwheel]

Depends - if we play good football and lose most will be ok with it. And it's not a big game either.

[emoji1787]. Assuming you’re on the wind up . we get beat tonight Maloney will get hammered on here .

[Danderhall Hibs]

[emoji1787]. Assuming you’re on the wind up . we get beat tonight Maloney will get hammered on here .

Just using the words I've read on here over the last few months mate.

[bigwheel]

Just using the words I've read on here over the last few months mate.

Hahaha. Thought you were . I agree with your thinking on that stuff :).

[IncredibleHibee]

I still rate Jack Ross highly. I wanted him to stay and get at least till the end of the season. Reading some of the articles today gave we a wee pang of regret to be honest. I might be in the minority but I thought we could have really built something with Ross at the wheel.

[Since452]

Depends - if we play good football and lose most will be ok with it. And it's not a big game either.

:greengrin

[brog]

I wasn't a huge JR fan & on balance I support the decision to sack him. Some comments on here are bizarre though (shock) . We dominated our semi final against St J for 1st 30 or so minutes & Murphy missed 2 sitters to put us ahead. St J scored from their 1st corner & we fell apart. That's not really the manager's fault though, we showed we could play through them. Again in the final we were shocking but virtually all the vitriol in the aftermath was (rightly IMO) directed at the players for not performing. Now it appears it was entirely the manager's fault!
On a general note it appeared with JR that when we won 2 semis they weren't big games but when we lost 2 they were! :wink:

[h1bs4life]

I'm saying if he'd not been as good at winning cup matches then when he/we had our first bad run under him he wouldn't have had the angry mob chasing after him.

As it was he won too many cup matches which heightened expectation and led to his downfall - "he'll need to win the first few matches of the season to get me onside", "I'll wait an reserve judgement until the first derby" and so on until finally he/we lost a few games and it all came crashing on on him. Some folk were living for a 4 match run - going 6 (or however many it was) sent them into over drive.

A bit dramatic an angry mob chasing after him.
Every team has supporters who have a different opinion on there manager .
Ross got sacked because of a horrendous league run there was no angry mob some people just stopped going because they didn’t like the football.

[Swedish hibee]

Anyone got a link so I can read online?

[blackpoolhibs]

Fans are so fickle. If we lose tonight there will be folk on here saying SM should be sacked.
If we do lose tonight, SM will rightly get stick, Ross never lost many cup games when at the club, and if SM loses his first it will cause major stress to some folk.

[Is It On....]

That’s interesting because I left the Dundee, St Mirren, Dun Utd, Aberdeen, Ross County, Motherwell and Livingston games prior to his sacking thinking if a better manager had been in charge we would have won the game.

That's brilliant 😂

[Steven79]

If we do lose tonight, SM will rightly get stick, Ross never lost many cup games when at the club, and if SM loses his first it will cause major stress to some folk.Even if we win this it's not going to be pretty...

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[Not In The Know]

Ross got the sack from his last two jobs for basically the same reason.

Make of that what you want.

[Since452]

Ross got the sack from his last two jobs for basically the same reason.

Make of that what you want.

Yet to see if either will improve without him.

[Jones28]

Ross got the sack from his last two jobs for basically the same reason.

Make of that what you want.

That Sunderland have done anything but move forward without him. That’s what I make of it.

It remains to be seen what will happen with us; maloney has started well, I was impressed with the game against Dundee United but tonight was very very hard work.

[Not In The Know]

That Sunderland have done anything but move forward without him. That’s what I make of it.

It remains to be seen what will happen with us; maloney has started well, I was impressed with the game against Dundee United but tonight was very very hard work.

Obvs way too early to judge Maloney. Fact Sunderland haven’t progressed only proves that they still don’t have the right man in charge.

[Nicho87]

Ross remarks 'disrespectful' - Maloney
FT: Hibernian 1-0 Cove Rangers (AET)
Hibernian manager Shaun Maloney doesn't sound too pleased about the Jack Ross interviews that appeared in some of today's newspapers.

"We had the previous manager come and speak out publicly which was difficult," he says. "I found it quite disrespectful to me and my staff and the club more importantly. That wasn't appreciated.

"Martin Boyle... We'll know more in the next 24-48 hours but I have to say the boy himself has been very good, very professional


I knew maloney wouldn’t like this article that broke last night. Ross coming out of nowhere giving his tuppence worth.

Good on maloney telling him it wasn’t appreciated

[Unseen work]

Good on Shaun

[truehibernian]

Good on Shaun

Exactly :aok: love he had a dig at Ross tonight - Ross is the reason we have such an uninspiring squad and a team bereft of creativity. Ross had no 'credit in the bank' - he failed to beat a Hearts side who hadn't played much football and a Saints side in a winnable final. His teams, even when winning, were abject to watch. Jack Ross was and is Alex Miller Mk 2 :agree:

[Steven79]

Exactly :aok: love he had a dig at Ross tonight - Ross is the reason we have such an uninspiring squad and a team bereft of creativity. Ross had no 'credit in the bank' - he failed to beat a Hearts side who hadn't played much football and a Saints side in a winnable final. His teams, even when winning, were abject to watch. Jack Ross was and is Alex Miller Mk 2 :agree:At least Miller won a cup while manger...

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[truehibernian]

At least Miller won a cup while manger...

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He did :aok: but he also gave debuts to both his sons who were utter gash :aok: and had the worst derby record in decades. Other than a couple of seasons (cup win I'll give you) a horrendous time to be a Hibs supporter in my eyes.

[h1bs4life]

Ross remarks 'disrespectful' - Maloney
FT: Hibernian 1-0 Cove Rangers (AET)
Hibernian manager Shaun Maloney doesn't sound too pleased about the Jack Ross interviews that appeared in some of today's newspapers.

"We had the previous manager come and speak out publicly which was difficult," he says. "I found it quite disrespectful to me and my staff and the club more importantly. That wasn't appreciated.

"Martin Boyle... We'll know more in the next 24-48 hours but I have to say the boy himself has been very good, very professional


I knew maloney wouldn’t like this article that broke last night. Ross coming out of nowhere giving his tuppence worth.

Good on maloney telling him it wasn’t appreciated


Well said Shaun , Ross trying to make himself relevant . Maybe not as many clubs as he thought knocking on his door offering him a job.

[Greenbeard]

To think, when the chat started about JR's shoogly peg and possible replacements, I suggested Calum Davidson as a possible contender 'cos he seemed able to get a bunch of journeymen playing as a unit and punching above their weight.
Judgement up my erchie!

[MWHIBBIES]

Exactly :aok: love he had a dig at Ross tonight - Ross is the reason we have such an uninspiring squad and a team bereft of creativity. Ross had no 'credit in the bank' - he failed to beat a Hearts side who hadn't played much football and a Saints side in a winnable final. His teams, even when winning, were abject to watch. Jack Ross was and is Alex Miller Mk 2 :agree:

Jack Ross left a side with Martin Boyle, Scott Allan, Jamie Murphy and Chris muller joining. It's rubbish to say he had a side bereft of creativity.

His teams were absolutely not abject to watch when winning. His teams was good for the most part, especially away from home. If Maloney gets our away record and performances up there with Ross he'll likely be doing a very good job too.

Ross had an awful run. At our worst we still were in a cup final. Before that run he was doing a very good job.

[Allant1981]

I am.

I was bored watching a JR team, found excuses on a Saturday not to go.

I know it's early days under SM but has the football been more exciting since he came in? Again appreciate its very early still

[Brightside]

I know it's early days under SM but has the football been more exciting since he came in? Again appreciate its very early still

No. But it wasn’t boring under JR either.

[B.H.F.C]

No. But it wasn’t boring under JR either.

To you. Plenty disagree.

[Hibbyradge]

I know it's early days under SM but has the football been more exciting since he came in? Again appreciate its very early still

No, it hasn't.

The worry for me is that there's not been any clear sign of a particular style of play. We had loads of the ball on Thursday but we were a bit of a mess with it.

I realise that we're well short of first pick players so my concern is only slight at the moment, but...

[Ronniekirk]

I know it's early days under SM but has the football been more exciting since he came in? Again appreciate its very early still

You really can’t judge at this stage It’s a period of transition More players will leave more will come in and the players already bought need time to bed in
Just now it’s about doing that while trying to get results
So far it’s three wins and one defeat ( which was expected at Park-head )
You can’t ask more at this stage
It’s going to take well into February and hopefully a fit Mcgennis included before we will know if team are gelling and playing the way Maloney wants
Even then it’s probably going to take the summer Transfer window as well
We also need to see how he reacts when we get a defeat or two defeats in a row
But for now he is doing fine


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[B.H.F.C]

No, it hasn't.

The worry for me is that there's not been any clear sign of a particular style of play. We had loads of the ball on Thursday but we were a bit of a mess with it.

I realise that we're well short of first pick players so my concern is only slight at the moment, but...

Think the style is really obvious along with the change of shape. We’ve lacked quality, particularly in the final third, but the way he wants to play seems pretty clear.

[Ronniekirk]

Think the style is really obvious along with the change of shape. We’ve lacked quality, particularly in the final third, but the way he wants to play seems pretty clear.

Mikey Stewart was critical of our play during cove game
Said we play far too many passes only to arrive back where the move started
And said we were attacking without purpose
Clearly just his view but he has heaped praise on hibs in the past
Oh and he felt were are too slow moving the ball about lacking urgency


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[Hibbyradge]

Think the style is really obvious along with the change of shape. We’ve lacked quality, particularly in the final third, but the way he wants to play seems pretty clear.

What is the style? I really didn't see any particular way we were playing. It certainly wasn't exciting or interesting.

[Stuart93]

Mikey Stewart was critical of our play during cove game
Said we play far too many passes only to arrive back where the move started
And said we were attacking without purpose
Clearly just his view but he has heaped praise on hibs in the past
Oh and he felt were are too slow moving the ball about lacking urgency


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I’d probably agree with his analysis. It obviously doesn’t help that we’re missing players.

[B.H.F.C]

Mikey Stewart was critical of our play during cove game
Said we play far too many passes only to arrive back where the move started
And said we were attacking without purpose
Clearly just his view but he has heaped praise on hibs in the past
Oh and he felt were are too slow moving the ball about lacking urgency


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I don’t disagree with anything he’s said there. Just the previous point that there isn’t an obvious style. I think there is but I just don’t think we’ve executed it very well in the two games this week. We might not until the players change but Hopefully the team will settle a bit over the next few weeks as well.

[B.H.F.C]

What is the style? I really didn't see any particular way we were playing. It certainly wasn't exciting or interesting.

Think it’s fairly obvious that he wants to play a possession based game. Don’t think anybody would argue it’s been particularly exciting, or even that we’re playing it particularly well. Was more apparent in his first two games than the last two, where there were loads of changes, but do think there’s a clear style he’s trying to get across.

[Hibbyradge]

I don’t disagree with anything he’s said there. Just the previous point that there isn’t an obvious style. I think there is but I just don’t think we’ve executed it very well in the two games this week. We might not until the players change but Hopefully the team will settle a bit over the next few weeks as well.

I fully accept that I could be wrong, but I don't know what style we were trying to play.

To me, it didn't look any different to how we've been playing for months.

So what did I miss?

[B.H.F.C]

I fully accept that I could be wrong, but I don't know what style we were trying to play.

To me, it didn't look any different to how we've been playing for months.

So what did I miss?

I don’t think we played well in either game this week but major change, for me, is that there are far less aimless punts up the park to the striker. Cadden and Doig playing much higher up the park on either side of that four as well, probably had as many efforts on goal between them in the four games as they had in the rest of the season. We’re also playing a different shape to we were under Ross.

[Since90+2]

It's early days but the performances at Celtic Park and against Cove were no better (and in the case of the Cove probably worse) than we played under Ross.

[CentreLine]

I don’t think we played well in either game this week but major change, for me, is that there are far less aimless punts up the park to the striker. Cadden and Doig playing much higher up the park on either side of that four as well, probably had as many efforts on goal between them in the four games as they had in the rest of the season. We’re also playing a different shape to we were under Ross.

Good points. I would add that the whole thing needs to be speeded up and much more crisp and decisive for it to be effective. The number of times players received the ball but then had to look for options in the last two games ha been painful to watch.

[Hibbyradge]

I don’t think we played well in either game this week but major change, for me, is that there are far less aimless punts up the park to the striker. Cadden and Doig playing much higher up the park on either side of that four as well, probably had as many efforts on goal between them in the four games as they had in the rest of the season. We’re also playing a different shape to we were under Ross.

We're possibly getting our wires crossed here.

I agree there were some changes in our set up, but unlike when Mowbray came in and we could immediately see how different our approach to the game was, it's like they don't know what they're supposed to be doing when they've got the ball.

That could be as much to do with the personnel or their ability, but I do hope it gets better. I'm confident that it will... I think!

[Bobby's Cinema]

It's pretty clear the players are trying to implement the managers instructions with almost every pass and movement to make themselves available etc and it's paralysed and stifled us to a large extent.

Once he gets the balance with this I'm confident we'll see an improvement. Results wise it has been a good start. Will be interested to see how our goals for and against columns stack up in the league under Maloney.

[RIP]

Good points. I would add that the whole thing needs to be speeded up and much more crisp and decisive for it to be effective. The number of times players received the ball but then had to look for options in the last two games ha been painful to watch.

Ordinary players receive the ball and then try and work out what to do with it.

Better players already know what they are going to do with the ball before they receive it.

At Belgium, Shaun was accustomed to coaching the latter. Now he’s trying to get the same outcome with the former.

[Iggy Pope]

Ordinary players receive the ball and then try and work out what to do with it.

Better players already know what they are going to do with the ball before they receive it.

At Belgium, Shaun was accustomed to coaching the latter. Now he’s trying to get the same outcome with the former.

What did Shaun do when he wasn’t ‘at Belgium’ do you think?

[Iain G]

Ordinary players receive the ball and then try and work out what to do with it.

Better players already know what they are going to do with the ball before they receive it.

At Belgium, Shaun was accustomed to coaching the latter. Now he’s trying to get the same outcome with the former.

It will be an ongoing development, some players will adapt, I suspect that the new signings have. Even signed and they can play this way and others will follow over the next few windows and those that can't adapt will leave.

Could be some very exciting times watching this team grow into it

[Stokesy's on fire]

That Sunderland have done anything but move forward without him. That’s what I make of it.

It remains to be seen what will happen with us; maloney has started well, I was impressed with the game against Dundee United but tonight was very very hard work.


Sunderland went backwards when Ross left them but they are doing better now.

[hhibs]

Seemingly fell out with Ron a couple of months earlier, hence why there was no qualms about sacking him when he did.


Seems to be a strong rumour on this,if so,explains much ,added to the dreadful form ,he was never going to be anything other than ,out the door.

[jeffers]

We're possibly getting our wires crossed here.

I agree there were some changes in our set up, but unlike when Mowbray came in and we could immediately see how different our approach to the game was, it's like they don't know what they're supposed to be doing when they've got the ball.

That could be as much to do with the personnel or their ability, but I do hope it gets better. I'm confident that it will... I think!

I thought the differences were more noticeable in the initial stages of the Aberdeen game and away to Motherwell. Monday and Thurdsay games if you’d told me Jack Ross was back in the dugout I’d have believed it.

[Hibbyradge]

I thought the differences were more noticeable in the initial stages of the Aberdeen game and away to Motherwell. Monday and Thurdsay games if you’d told me Jack Ross was back in the dugout I’d have believed it.

:agree:

[Since452]

Winning and losing quickly become habits. Ross experienced both albeit the losing one was considerably shorter than the winning one. Very good start for Maloney. The style thing doesn't really bother me I'm more interested in wins. 1-0 hoofball or not I couldn't care less. I know others feel differently. Ron has set the benchmark though so Maloney will know a bad spell won't be tolerated. Dangerous road to go down.

[B.H.F.C]

Winning and losing quickly become habits. Ross experienced both albeit the losing one was considerably shorter than the winning one. Very good start for Maloney. The style thing doesn't really bother me I'm more interested in wins. 1-0 hoofball of or not I couldn't care less. O know others feel differently. Ron has set the benchmark though so Maloney will know a bad spell won't be tolerated. Dangerous road to go down.

A bad spell will be tolerated. If it goes on for too long and it comes to a point that it doesn’t look like it’s turning, that’s what won’t be tolerated.

[h1bs4life]

It's early days but the performances at Celtic Park and against Cove were no better (and in the case of the Cove probably worse) than we played under Ross.


Performances while not great were much better than Hibs 0 Dundee Utd 3 back in October and a few others this season.

[Billy Whizz]

I wonder where it all go wrong for Jack at Hibs. Were we not top of the League at the end of August

[SMAXXA]

I thought the differences were more noticeable in the initial stages of the Aberdeen game and away to Motherwell. Monday and Thurdsay games if you’d told me Jack Ross was back in the dugout I’d have believed it.

Completely different styles of play those 2 games as poor as they were at times was nothing like a JR side. Actually think JR side would have done better these 2 games with a settled structure and understanding of how to play. It’s a long term build though there will be bumps in the road we have to accept that.

[Sir David Gray]

I wonder where it all go wrong for Jack at Hibs. Were we not top of the League at the end of August

We were top as we went 1-0 up at Ibrox at the start of October.

[Since452]

I wonder where it all go wrong for Jack at Hibs. Were we not top of the League at the end of August

Porteous red card at Ibrox and Magennis injury.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Porteous red card at Ibrox and Magennis injury.

That's when the poor run started. However there's 4 results he didn't recover from / was never forgiven for (Hearts twice and St Johnstone twice). We even had folk on here downplaying finishing 3rd and giving credit to everyone else rather than us for it. Then they moved onto waiting to see how we started the season, performed in the first derby, wanting to see how the big game record improved etc.

After those 4 games though it was just a matter of time until the minority became bigger and more vocal.

[RIP]

It will be an ongoing development, some players will adapt, I suspect that the new signings have. Even signed and they can play this way and others will follow over the next few windows and those that can't adapt will leave.

Could be some very exciting times watching this team grow into it

I’m hoping so. Quick thinking, quick moving footballers.

[bingo70]

That's when the poor run started. However there's 4 results he didn't recover from / was never forgiven for (Hearts twice and St Johnstone twice). We even had folk on here downplaying finishing 3rd and giving credit to everyone else rather than us for it. Then they moved onto waiting to see how we started the season, performed in the first derby, wanting to see how the big game record improved etc.

After those 4 games though it was just a matter of time until the minority became bigger and more vocal.

I think most of that is fair.

There were other factors for me that have been well covered elsewhere but I don’t think he ever really recovered from those results.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I think most of that is fair.

There were other factors for me that have been well covered elsewhere but I don’t think he ever really recovered from those results.

As you know I think the "boring" football stuff was overplayed but we do need to move on and support the new guy without all this constant bitching. Until we have another poor run obvs.:greengrin

[GreenGray]

Tbf we could have said the same thing before the semi about Rangers too.

I would probably agree with your point about Maloney as well. My feeling is that SDG, understandably as he was only temp manager, was reluctant to, or unsure of, making changes when they were needed in the game. One of Ross' strengthes was making changes which swung a game
Can you give me some examples of when Jack Ross made changes that won us the game?

[JimBHibees]

Can you give me some examples of when Jack Ross made changes that won us the game?

St johnstone away

[Broken Gnome]

St johnstone away

Could probably add Motherwell on the first day of the season to that.

[bigwheel]

Could probably add Motherwell on the first day of the season to that.

Yes, from the things people throw at Ross “no plan B” or not effecting games can’t really be one - he often tried to make changes to effect games . Last season in particular, off the top of my head, I think we had a decent track record of winning points from losing positions …

[Coco Bryce]

We'll soon find out what JR is made off when he takes over at St Johnstone soon.

[500miles]

We'll soon find out what JR is made off when he takes over at St Johnstone soon.

Is it 10 defeats on the bounce now?

The last minute loss of Kerr was an absolute shambles from the owner, probably why he feels he can't sack Davidson.

I think they'll recover with a couple of signings and injuries clearing up, and I hope they give Davidson that opportunity.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Yes, from the things people throw at Ross “no plan B” or not effecting games can’t really be one - he often tried to make changes to effect games . Last season in particular, off the top of my head, I think we had a decent track record of winning points from losing positions …

I think we only won once from a losing position last season, although having said that we did win a lot of games from a winning position. Could be that folk find that boring though and prefer a manager getting it wrong initially, shouting a lot, actively changing things and then winning.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Is it 10 defeats on the bounce now?

The last minute loss of Kerr was an absolute shambles from the owner, probably why he feels he can't sack Davidson.

I think they'll recover with a couple of signings and injuries clearing up, and I hope they give Davidson that opportunity.

They lost 2 players at the last minute and it's destroyed them. It's a results business though and having been pumped by the part timers at the weekend in their feeble attempt at retaining the cup he can't be far away from the boot - especially given the quality of football they play (even when they had the 2 mentioned)..

He should've jumped when his stock was high.

[Steven79]

Yes, from the things people throw at Ross “no plan B” or not effecting games can’t really be one - he often tried to make changes to effect games . Last season in particular, off the top of my head, I think we had a decent track record of winning points from losing positions …

Like the cup final?

[Billy Whizz]

Could probably add Motherwell on the first day of the season to that.

Apart from the semi final against Rangers, possibly our best, at least 2nd half, performance of the season

[flash]

We'll soon find out what JR is made off when he takes over at St Johnstone soon.

Or Dundee. Basically whoever loses.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Apart from the semi final against Rangers, possibly our best, at least 2nd half, performance of the season

St Johnstone away was a really good performance in coming from a losing position after the manager changed a few things.

[Greenbeard]

We'll soon find out what JR is made off when he takes over at St Johnstone soon.
Was he not travelling from home somewhere in the NE of England to East Mains?
If that is right I can't imagine he'd be that keen on negotiating Sherrifhall roundabout, the bypass and the Forth Road Bridge there and back most days.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Was he not travelling from home somewhere in the NE of England to East Mains?
If that is right I can't imagine he'd be that keen on negotiating Sherrifhall roundabout, the bypass and the Forth Road Bridge there and back most days.

Depends how desperate he is to get back in.

He could easily do Monday morning - back Tuesday night (Wednesday's the day off isn't it?). Back Thursday morning and home after the match. 3 nights away and 4 nights in his own bed.

[Billy Whizz]

St Johnstone away was a really good performance in coming from a losing position after the manager changed a few things.

It was, but was against 10 men

[Danderhall Hibs]

It was, but was against 10 men

Still counts. The performance vs 11 was very good as well.

[degenerated]

There you go, and to think some people said there was a lack of clarity about his involvement [emoji6]

I think the problem here is how it’s been communicated. Instead of it being announced that Ron Gordon had bought the club, they should have said the Gordon family had bought it with Ron overseeing everything while another family member would be more involved in the day to day running of the club.

To wait this long and sort of sneak him in the back door was always likely to look a bit shady.Ian Gordon had been on that list for ages as head of recruitment, going back to last autumn.

[bigwheel]

Depends how desperate he is to get back in.

He could easily do Monday morning - back Tuesday night (Wednesday's the day off isn't it?). Back Thursday morning and home after the match. 3 nights away and 4 nights in his own bed.

I don’t think it would be a good move for him . If he fancies going abroad - now would be the time for him to do it …

[Since452]

The right or wrong to sack him conversation will rumble on for years. Especially if (god forbid) Maloney doesn't do well. Ross's record stands up well against any Hibs manager. Steadied a sinking ship then took us to 3rd in his first full season. Nothinig lower than cup semi finals including two back to back finals one of which he didnt get the opportunity to manage in. The flip side of the argument is who he lost the three Hampden games against. Funnily enough though, St Johnstone put out the invinsible Rangers side at Ibrox but nobody really mentions that. They we're a phenomenon in knockout games last season.

I'm still a bit gutted by his sacking even though i reluctantly realised he had to go after Livingston. It's such a strange one. It's a results driven buisness and we were really awfull that night. It's one that has really had me torn more than any other manager being given the sack so i totally get both sides of the arguement. Onwards and upwards though.

[bigwheel]

The right or wrong to sack him conversation will rumble on for years. Especially if (god forbid) Maloney doesn't do well. Ross's record stands up well against any Hibs manager. Steadied a sinking ship then took us to 3rd in his first full season. Nothinig lower than cup semi finals including two back to back finals one of which he didnt get the opportunity to manage in. The flip side of the argument is who he lost the three Hampden games against. Funnily enough though, St Johnstone put out the invinsible Rangers side at Ibrox but nobody really mentions that. They we're a phenomenon in knockout games last season.

I'm still a bit gutted by his sacking even though i reluctantly realised he had to go after Livingston. It's such a strange one. It's a results driven buisness and we were really awfull that night. It's one that has really had me torn more than any other manager being given the sack so i totally get both sides of the arguement. Onwards and upwards though.

I too was gutted when JR was booted , but I’ve moved on now . He is now part of our history, not our future. The run of results that led up to it gave anyone the reason they wanted, to justify sacking him .

Despite my reservations , Maloney seems a talent . Will make mistakes, as all new managers do .Hope he gets it right overall as we can’t afford to go backwards . He deserves our full support now . He will have mine .

[loanheadhibby]

In the cold light of day I'm disappointed he isn't our manager still. I think we'll regret getting rid. He's gone though so fully behind the new one.
How can we regret getting rid?
Unless you see us getting dragged into a relegation battle under SM?

[loanheadhibby]

Jack Ross left a side with Martin Boyle, Scott Allan, Jamie Murphy and Chris muller joining. It's rubbish to say he had a side bereft of creativity.

His teams were absolutely not abject to watch when winning. His teams was good for the most part, especially away from home. If Maloney gets our away record and performances up there with Ross he'll likely be doing a very good job too.

Ross had an awful run. At our worst we still were in a cup final. Before that run he was doing a very good job.
I think one of the problems was our very poor home form which is so important as that's where most fans see us.
Mind you JR was not the only manager to fail in that respect.
Not convinced it's a great Hearts team but in the last few months they have made it tough for visiting teams at Tynecastle.

[loanheadhibby]

St Johnstone away was a really good performance in coming from a losing position after the manager changed a few things.
After they went down to 10 men?

[Since452]

I too was gutted when JR was booted , but I’ve moved on now . He is now part of our history, not our future. The run of results that led up to it gave anyone the reason they wanted, to justify sacking him .

Despite my reservations , Maloney seems a talent . Will make mistakes, as all new managers do .Hope he gets it right overall as we can’t afford to go backwards . He deserves our full support now . He will have mine .

100%

[GreenGray]

Yes, from the things people throw at Ross “no plan B” or not effecting games can’t really be one - he often tried to make changes to effect games . Last season in particular, off the top of my head, I think we had a decent track record of winning points from losing positions …

His plan B resorted to throwing Scott Allan or Jamie Murphy on, they bailed him out a couple times granted but it’s not very sustainable

[bigwheel]

His plan B resorted to throwing Scott Allan or Jamie Murphy on, they bailed him out a couple times granted but it’s not very sustainable

You don’t really think substitutions are the only way of changing your approach and tactics do you ?

[GreenGray]

You don’t really think substitutions are the only way of changing your approach and tactics do you ?

Course not, just think you’re giving him way too much credit for his ability to change a game. Maybe turned it around in some but there was many other’s he couldn’t or didn’t. Particularly big games

[WhileTheChief..]

Or Dundee. Basically whoever loses.

St J would be a good move for him, Dundee not so much.

They’re a bampot of a club just now, I can’t see JR being interested. Tommy Wright maybe, or another ex-player that wants to pretend they’re a manager.

[Hibbyradge]

Course not, just think you’re giving him way too much credit for his ability to change a game. Maybe turned it around in some but there was many other’s he couldn’t or didn’t. Particularly big games

You're expecting far too much from managers.

It's not easy to change a game to get a positive effect. We set up to attack the opponents weaknesses and defend against their strengths. Those things don't just helpfully go away because we alter our set up.

If we're still in the game, and we believe in the game plan, sticking to it is the right thing to do. The usual alternative is to throw caution to the wind and go hell for leather for a goal, that sometimes works, but not often, and it's hugely risky.

You also need the personnel to change an approach and we aren't blessed with a massively talented second team.

Claiming that the manager couldn't change things is a lazy cliché which could be leveled against every manager who ever lost a game.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Being reported that Queens Park trying to tempt Jack Ross with a big offer. Potter already there of course.

[Tarrahib]

Being reported that Queens Park trying to tempt Jack Ross with a big offer. Potter already there of course.
The Leanne effect.

[Brightside]

The Queen’s Park job would be a real gamble for Jack. If it doesn’t work out he’s got nowhere left to go. They are a Div 1 club. Failure there a d he’s basically finished in top flight football. I’ll be very surprised if he takes it.

[G15 Hibs]

The Queen’s Park job would be a real gamble for Jack. If it doesn’t work out he’s got nowhere left to go. They are a Div 1 club. Failure there a d he’s basically finished in top flight football. I’ll be very surprised if he takes it.

Even doing moderately well with a League 1 club, with some substantial financial backing from Willie Haughey, wouldn't necessarily turn the heads of clubs at the level he probably still sees himself at. Very risky, when I'd imagine he'll not be in a position where he has to take the first thing that comes along.

[Since452]

A project at Queens Park on a good sarlary might be more tempting than a St Johnstone or Dundee. QP have some serious ambition and he knows Dempster well.

[Since90+2]

A project at Queens Park on a good sarlary might be more tempting than a St Johnstone or Dundee. QP have some serious ambition.

Problem with QP is getting them promoted out of League 1 with their money won't really be seen as a success at all and to get them out the Championship would be very difficult.

I'd be very surprised if JR ends up there.

[MWHIBBIES]

The Queen’s Park job would be a real gamble for Jack. If it doesn’t work out he’s got nowhere left to go. They are a Div 1 club. Failure there a d he’s basically finished in top flight football. I’ll be very surprised if he takes it.

Or he could work his way back up? Jack Ross will do a solid job at basically any side in Scotland.

[The 90+2]

What job wouldn’t be risky? Finishing third and two cup finals wasn’t enough for our support/board after all.

Ross is a top coach, best of luck to him where he ends up.

[B.H.F.C]

Think he needs to go down the route of doing something a bit different. He’s probably managed the biggest clubs he will up here and down south. He mentioned going abroad, that’s probably his better bet for him than taking on a bottom six team up here or something along those lines.

[GreenGray]

You're expecting far too much from managers.

It's not easy to change a game to get a positive effect. We set up to attack the opponents weaknesses and defend against their strengths. Those things don't just helpfully go away because we alter our set up.

If we're still in the game, and we believe in the game plan, sticking to it is the right thing to do. The usual alternative is to throw caution to the wind and go hell for leather for a goal, that sometimes works, but not often, and it's hugely risky.

You also need the personnel to change an approach and we aren't blessed with a massively talented second team.

Claiming that the manager couldn't change things is a lazy cliché which could be leveled against every manager who ever lost a game.

So you think in that cup final last year against St Johnstone the correct thing to do was continue playing the way we started the game?

[Stuart93]

Probably his level

:duck::duck::duck:

[Hibbyradge]

So you think in that cup final last year against St Johnstone the correct thing to do was continue playing the way we started the game?

It depends on what options we had and what personnel we had available. Iirc, we had no attacking options on the bench other than a half fit Magennis and Jamie Murphy who replaced Gogic after less than an hour.

We were still in the game so doing anything rash could have put it out of our reach completely. Maybe another manager could have come up with a clever plan to change it in our favour, but I'm at a loss as to how.

We only had 2 strikers and they were both on from the start, but Jackson Irvine should have scored a great chance. The players lost that game for us not the manager.

As I said in my previous post, the ability of managers to change games midway through is greatly overstated happens far less frequently than some folk think.

However, Jack Ross has gone now so let's just move on and wait until it's time to criticise our new manager for not being able to change things, just as happened to every manager we've ever had since FIFA went on sale.

[Danderhall Hibs]

It depends on what options we had and what personnel we had available. Iirc, we had no attacking options on the bench other than a half fit Magennis and Jamie Murphy who replaced Gogic after less than an hour.

We were still in the game so doing anything rash could have put it out of our reach completely. Maybe another manager could have come up with a clever plan to change it in our favour, but I'm at a loss as to how.

We only had 2 strikers and they were both on from the start, but Jackson Irvine should have scored a great chance. The players lost that game for us not the manager.

As I said in my previous post, the ability of managers to change games midway through is greatly overstated and is far less frequent than some folk think.

However, Jack Ross has gone now so let's just move on and wait until it's time to criticise our new manager for not being able to change things, just as every manager we've had was criticised.

If a manager has to chop and change things too often it means they got it wrong in the first place.

[Hibbyradge]

If a manager has to chop and change things too often it means they got it wrong in the first place.

Good point. Either that or they've been second guessed by the opponents which is quite a common thing because when teams have such limited squads, it's not too difficult to work out how they will line up.

I think that's what we did to the Rangers in the Boyle semifinal. Not that JR deserves any credit for that...

[RIP Bestie]

It depends on what options we had and what personnel we had available. Iirc, we had no attacking options on the bench other than a half fit Magennis and Jamie Murphy who replaced Gogic after less than an hour.

We were still in the game so doing anything rash could have put it out of our reach completely. Maybe another manager could have come up with a clever plan to change it in our favour, but I'm at a loss as to how.

We only had 2 strikers and they were both on from the start, but Jackson Irvine should have scored a great chance. The players lost that game for us not the manager.

As I said in my previous post, the ability of managers to change games midway through is greatly overstated happens far less frequently than some folk think.

However, Jack Ross has gone now so let's just move on and wait until it's time to criticise our new manager for not being able to change things, just as happened to every manager we've ever had since FIFA went on sale.

But it seemed he learned and changed nothing from the previous 4 or 5 games they beat us in.

[Hibbyradge]

But it seemed he learned and changed nothing from the previous 4 or 5 games they beat us in.

I don't fully agree with you, but that's a different discussion.

[King Cosell]

Dundee Utd have lost 6 in a row, 1 win in 11. Lose at home to Ross County tomorrow and I can see Jack rocking up there.

[FilipinoHibs]

Dundee Utd have lost 6 in a row, 1 win in 11. Lose at home to Ross County tomorrow and I can see Jack rocking up there.

Win more games than loose with his safety ,safety approach. But bore the pants off the fans

[greenginger]

Win more games than loose with his safety ,safety approach. But bore the pants off the fans

Yep, I would think if our loosing streak had been full of 4-3 defeats Jack might have been kept on longer.

Ron Gordon said from the beginning he wanted the fans entertained.

[Callum_62]

Didn't lennon get slated for making early changes on the semi against Aberdeen as he obviously got it wrong!

Cannie win really the mangers eh

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[The 90+2]

Didn't lennon get slated for making early changes on the semi against Aberdeen as he obviously got it wrong!

Cannie win really the mangers eh

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Lennon got a lot of credit for changing the game. We would have won if Dylan didn't injure himself scoring imo.

[loanheadhibby]

Porteous red card at Ibrox and Magennis injury.
Hope I'm wrong but doubt we can pin our hopes on Magennis.
Not convinced he will stay fit for long.

[Eyrie]

Lennon got a lot of credit for changing the game. We would have won if Dylan didn't injure himself scoring imo.

He gets credit for changing the game the same way he has to take the blame for getting his selection wrong in the first place.

Blaming the players for a bad start caused by his own tactics (eg Cummings as the lone striker) was very poor and doesn't have any mitigation.

[Lago]

Dundee Utd have lost 6 in a row, 1 win in 11. Lose at home to Ross County tomorrow and I can see Jack rocking up there.
Hell of a drive from Ponteland 🙄

[SMAXXA]

Dundee Utd have lost 6 in a row, 1 win in 11. Lose at home to Ross County tomorrow and I can see Jack rocking up there.

Not going to happen even if they finish 3rd bottom this season they won’t change manager. Would undermine everything they were so passionate about and believed he was the right man to bin him after 1 season. He’s earned enough kudos for the start they had but for me they will still finish bottom 6 maybe even bottom 4

[The 90+2]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

[Hibs90]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

Here's a clue. Look at the results.

[JamesHFC]

Here's a clue. Look at the results.

🤣👍🏻

[HendoDelivered]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

Let it go mate.

[B.H.F.C]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

We were dropping down the league with him in charge. Improved results since he went. Given us a chance to salvage our season league wise.

[Northernhibee]

He’s gone as a result of months of dreadful football and results.

Let it go.

[Paul1642]

I can’t think of a more controversial Hibs Managerial sacking since Sauzee.

[Callum_62]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?Surley against Dundee utd was far better than Ross last game against livi?

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[Northernhibee]

I can’t think of a more controversial Hibs Managerial sacking since Sauzee.

You’d be wrong, Ross earned his jotters after having quite some time to turn it around.

[Heisenberg]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

You seem utterly determined to prove it was the wrong decision to sack Ross when results since Maloney came in have improved. There’s no denying it.

We’re also lumbered with some utter guff in our squad thanks to those previously in charge.

[007]

I can’t think of a more controversial Hibs Managerial sacking since Sauzee.

Lennon's was quite controversial. Mind you, he was neither sacked, nor resigned, nor mutually consented.. ..in fact, is he still at ER? 🤔

[CapitalGreen]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

As many points in our last 4 league games (All against top 6 teams, 3 games away) than Ross managed in his last 10 league games.

[Heisenberg]

As many points in our last 4 league games (All against top 6 teams, 3 games away) than Ross managed in his last 10 league games.

But apart from that has it really improved?!

[JamesHFC]

As many points in our last 4 league games (All against top 6 teams, 3 games away) than Ross managed in his last 10 league games.

More clean sheets in our last two games than Ross managed in his last 13 games.

[Danderhall Hibs]

But apart from that has it really improved?!

Mind when folk criticised us for only getting 3 shots on target (and scoring them all) at Hampden a few weeks ago? :hilarious

[007]

But apart from that has it really improved?!

Yes because we are picking up points, still in contention for Europe and not sliding down the table. We're much more solid defensively.

Need to remember that not only are the players getting used to playing a different way, there are also quite a few new players who are settling in so they're getting used to playing with each other.

[#2 Double Tap]

Lennon's was quite controversial. Mind you, he was neither sacked, nor resigned, nor mutually consented.. ..in fact, is he still at ER? 🤔


:nlgwa <<<< wonder if maloney will ever get one of these.

[GreenGray]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

Are you Actually Jack Ross? Please tell the truth

[JohnM1875]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

16/10/21

Hibs 0 - Dundee Utd 3


I'd say we've been better than that game in almost every game Maloney has been in charge.

[MWHIBBIES]

Are you Actually Jack Ross? Please tell the truth

This is seriously pathetic patter. It is supposed to be funny?

[MWHIBBIES]

16/10/21

Hibs 0 - Dundee Utd 3


I'd say we've been better than that game in almost every game Maloney has been in charge.

You just pick a dreadful performance? Come on. Pick some kind of average.

Hibs 3 rangers 1 - I'd say we've been worse in every game under Maloney.

It's such a pointless comparison on both sides. We've been better under Maloney than we were, but still not great. Who are cares, its all about the next 3 games now. 3 home games, we need to be winning home games. He'll get full support from everyone if he gets us 9 points.

[NC1875]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

Give it a rest. We get that you loved Jack Ross. How about you give Maloney time to get his players fit and in the squad before moaning about how your mate Jack was sacked. And he was rightly sacked by the way.

[Waxy]

We look much more solid at the back now.

[JimBHibees]

We look much more solid at the back now.

Especially given the players playing in a few of the games. Rocky looks a real find

[Callum_62]

We look much more solid at the back now.How many goals have we lost under maloney from cross balls?

That has to be a major improvement

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[Danderhall Hibs]

How many goals have we lost under maloney from cross balls?

That has to be a major improvement

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Big improvement in Macey’s distribution as well.

[green with envy]

Someone tell me we have been better in any game than when Jack Ross was in charge?

We were better last night than we were up in Dingwall a couple of months back... Fact!

[JohnM1875]

You just pick a dreadful performance? Come on. Pick some kind of average.

Hibs 3 rangers 1 - I'd say we've been worse in every game under Maloney.

It's such a pointless comparison on both sides. We've been better under Maloney than we were, but still not great. Who are cares, its all about the next 3 games now. 3 home games, we need to be winning home games. He'll get full support from everyone if he gets us 9 points.

Did you even read the post I replied to? He said 'any performance' I provided an example.

[Stonewall]

Big improvement in Macey’s distribution as well.

I thought so too.

[GreenGray]

This is seriously pathetic patter. It is supposed to be funny?

Not as funny as some of the chronic patter from the poster talking about Jack Ross and how this is “far worse”

[Since452]

I sometimes think people watch too much Liverpool and Man City games. Someone posted on the match thread that our performance was pathetic. It wasn't. We are a fairly average team handicapped by a poor summer window and injuries who are capable of really good and really bad performances. We've seen that all season. The league table is about right. Doesn't matter who is in charge this season it was always going to be like this in the circumstances. We can only hope the new guys push us on a bit.

[gbhibby]

See Sunderland have sacked their Manager. Could Jack Ross get the job🤔

[TelaStella]

See Sunderland have sacked their Manager. Could Jack Ross get the job[emoji848]

Lennon apparently the favourite


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[Greenio]

I was a big fan of Jack Ross

Now I'm a big fan of Sean Maloney.

Easy 👍

[Danderhall Hibs]

I was a big fan of Jack Ross

Now I'm a big fan of Sean Maloney.

Easy 👍

I’m a fan of Hibs. All the managers come down the list - they’re just ships passing in the night.

[Wilson]

I was a big fan of Jack Ross

Now I'm a big fan of Sean Maloney.

Easy 👍

I wasn't a fan of Jack Ross.

I grew to like him and thought he was sacked too soon.

I'm not a fan of Maloney.

I'm wondering if I will be if I wait a while.

[Keith_M]

I wasn't a fan of Jack Ross.

I grew to like him and thought he was sacked too soon.

I'm not a fan of Maloney.

I'm wondering if I will be if I wait a while.


What's the tune to that?


:greengrin

[bigwheel]

What's the tune to that?


:greengrin

Hahahaha.

[Keith_M]

Hahahaha.


You must admit, the lyrics are really good


:wink:

[bigwheel]

You must admit, the lyrics are really good


:wink:

Gave me a proper chuckle that.. :)

[The Wireless]

I was a big fan of Jack Ross

Now I'm a big fan of Sean Maloney.

Easy 👍

And that is exactly how it should be for supporters. 🇳🇬

[Wheat Hound]

Apparently a sky pundit for our game tonight. Should be erm interesting...

[Hibiza]

" was a game of two halves " . Blah blah

[Nicho87]

Apparently a sky pundit for our game tonight. Should be erm interesting...

Boooo

[Hibiza]

" the referee was unsighted "

[The Modfather]

Not sure it’s right him being in the studio for a derby. I get he’s trying to self promote and keep himself in mind for jobs but it just turns it into the Jack Ross debate rather than about Maloney or tonight’s game.

[The 90+2]

Apparently a sky pundit for our game tonight. Should be erm interesting...


He's a good guy. Respectful to us also.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not sure it’s right him being in the studio for a derby. I get he’s trying to self promote and keep himself in mind for jobs but it just turns it into the Jack Ross debate rather than about Maloney or tonight’s game.

Jack owes nothing to Shaun or Hibs. Only interested in himself and rightly so.

[The 90+2]

Not sure it’s right him being in the studio for a derby. I get he’s trying to self promote and keep himself in mind for jobs but it just turns it into the Jack Ross debate rather than about Maloney or tonight’s game.


Managed Hibernian, coached them. Gets people talking win win win SKY.

Marvin Bartley is a lucky laddie too :agree:

[The 90+2]

He does look like a Scooby Doo bad guy/101 Dalmatians bad guy and Theresa May could be his maw. :agree:

Jack sticking up for the club and Maloney. :aok:

[Tricla]

The Sky coverage involving JR was cringy as. Pre match it was 30 minutes of digs at Hibs in terms of how JR was treated and how bad we are, followed by 15 minutes of how amazing Hertz are. Kris Boyd is an embarrassing welt.

Edit: should clarify the digs at Hibs weren't led by JR. He was sound. There was no need for Sky to talk about how he departed Hibs.