Doidge

[Hibees1973]

Know this may be an early call but it appears to me that Doidge will be one of the fall guys under the new regime.

When players such as Scott & Murphy get on before him tonight, it seems clear that Doidge will either be moved on elsewhere or marginalised in the squad. His scoring record for Hibs is good but it's likely he does not fit into the style of play Maloney wants.

This is a risky call given the effectiveness of Doidge in this league.

He has just signed a new 3 year deal and given his popularity in the squad it will be interesting how this transpires.

[The 90+2]

Thursday will be interesting in terms of game time for him. If he's not starting then, unless he's injured, will be on the way out.

[Since452]

We'd been screaming out for a striker like Doidge for years. Absolute handful. Would be a huge own goal to get rid of him. Hopefully not.

[Hibs90]

The Doidge to Dundee rumour is indeed complete nonsense.

Has a part to play here.

[JohnM1875]

Know this may be an early call but it appears to me that Doidge will be one of the fall guys under the new regime.

When players such as Scott & Murphy get on before him tonight, it seems clear that Doidge will either be moved on elsewhere or marginalised in the squad. His scoring record for Hibs is good but it's likely he does not fit into the style of play Maloney wants.

This is a risky call given the effectiveness of Doidge in this league.

He has just signed a new 3 year deal and given his popularity in the squad it will be interesting how this transpires.

It's weird cause I think he fits the system a lot more than Nisbet ever will. I really hope he gets a few starts to show what he can offer. We're much better when he's in the team IMHO

[tonyrougier123]

It's weird cause I think he fits the system a lot more than Nisbet ever will. I really hope he gets a few starts to show what he can offer. We're much better when he's in the team IMHO

What is the system?

[Scooter]

His non appearance is baffling. We've missed him ever since he got injured it would be a shocker from Maloney and hibs if we let him go. He should be starting

[Bostonhibby]

We must have some great strikers lined up if we can afford to lose what Christian Doidge brings to Hibs.

Wouldn't be happy to see him go.

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[loanheadhibby]

We'd been screaming out for a striker like Doidge for years. Absolute handful. Would be a huge own goal to get rid of him. Hopefully not.
I certainly wouldn't want him to go but not convinced he's as good as you seem to believe.

[JohnM1875]

What is the system?

Going by what we seem to be asking Nisbet to do it's to drop deeper to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Doidge will always be better at that then Nisbet. We also want players to be closing down more often, again Doidge gives you that in abundance compared to Nisbet.

Regardless of system I still think Doidge should be getting a few starts. Nisbet hasn't played great recently.

[Hibee Mac]

I'll be gutted if he's sidelined or sold. He's our best striker by some distance and the fans take to him.

Let alone the fact that we'd be left with bloody Nisbet and Scott instead of him.

If (and it's a big if I think) Doidge is sold or loaned then big questions will be asked I reckon, could even lose some leeway with support quite early on...

[bigwheel]

We must have some great strikers lined up if we can afford to lose what Christian Doidge brings to Hibs.

Wouldn't be happy to see him go.

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Would worry me over Maloney’s decision making if one of his early calls was to let Doidge go …been better than most over the last couple of years ….can’t see it happening though

[Cat Stanton]

The Doidge to Dundee rumour is indeed complete nonsense.

Has a part to play here.

Something tells me you may be biased though. Call it a sixth sense.

[hibsbollah]

Going by what we seem to be asking Nisbet to do it's to drop deeper to hold the ball up and bring others into play. Doidge will always be better at that then Nisbet. We also want players to be closing down more often, again Doidge gives you that in abundance compared to Nisbet.

Regardless of system I still think Doidge should be getting a few starts. Nisbet hasn't played great recently.

:agree: agree with that, and also think it’s way too early to say whether he fits into Maloneys plans. It’s only one game.

[Heisenberg]

Was shocked he was overlooked to come on tonight. Really hope we don’t get rid, especially when our other options are so clearly not good enough/not performing.

[Hibs90]

Something tells me you may be biased though. Call it a sixth sense.

Maybe…

Hibs more or less have said the rumour is nonsense through the EEN

[Shrekko]

I certainly wouldn't want him to go but not convinced he's as good as you seem to believe.

You’re saying he’s not “an absolute handful”?

Doidge could have a nightmare match but he’ll still make sure the defender marking him has an absolutely horrible experience. His goal record is pretty decent as well.

Defenders barely have to break sweat dealing with Nisbet- he has no interest in making their lives difficult whatsoever.

These things make a difference. People talking about Doidge not being Maloney’s type as if we’re going to be a pure footballing machine is laughable. Letting Doidge go would be a massive mistake - when he got injured and we didn’t replace him properly we all knew what was about to unfold.

[bingo70]

His non appearance is baffling. We've missed him ever since he got injured it would be a shocker from Maloney and hibs if we let him go. He should be starting

Game was gone already. I think we were keeping him for Thursday night.

Same applies to mueller and Hallberg.

[LunasBoots]

Letting Doidge go would be a stupid move from the club.

[WeeRussell]

I'll be gutted if he's sidelined or sold. He's our best striker by some distance and the fans take to him.

Let alone the fact that we'd be left with bloody Nisbet and Scott instead of him.

If (and it's a big if I think) Doidge is sold or loaned then big questions will be asked I reckon, could even lose some leeway with support quite early on...

When you say he’s our best striker by some distance, how do you mean? Presumably you mean his form compared to others in the few months before he was injured, which is fair enough.. bearing mind he’s barely kicked a ball this season and only got a stupid sending off since returning (so no current form to go on). Nisbet is a better footballer albeit he hasn’t done a great deal to show that recently.

I like Doidge, both what he offers and his attitude. Seems a good lad. I’m hoping that IF Maloney sees the big man as surplus to requirements, then it’s because his plans (and incoming players) see us going to a level better than Doidge’s ability.

[Leith Green]

I'll be gutted if he's sidelined or sold. He's our best striker by some distance and the fans take to him.

Let alone the fact that we'd be left with bloody Nisbet and Scott instead of him.

If (and it's a big if I think) Doidge is sold or loaned then big questions will be asked I reckon, could even lose some leeway with support quite early on...



Id far rather doidge in my team than nisbett. Definitely if its a lone striker ,’id actually say that if we continue to play the lone striker , we would be as well getting as much for nisbett as we can get and move him on

[number9dream]

It will be a worry if the big man doesn't feature on Thursday.
I think Maloney's 3-4-3 could work well with Nisbet and Boyle either side of Doidge.

[Unseen work]

For me he never played tonight as the game was effectively done when Scott came on and it was a chance for Maloney to see what Scott could do.

Same with Mueller not coming on yet Bradley got a chance.

[bigwheel]

Game was gone already. I think we were keeping him for Thursday night.

Same applies to mueller and Hallberg.

Don’t see that at all..think Maloney thought those were the best subs to make at the time…20 mins run out tonight would help a player for Thursday not hinder them….

Don’t agree they were the best changes mind you.


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[The Harp Awakes]

Got to say I'm totally bewildered by the continuing absence of Doidge on the pitch, particularly when Nisbet has been so ineffective.

There is absolutely no strength, workrate or physicality at the top of the pitch. Doidge would seem such an obvious addition to the first 11. Is he still lacking fitness? Something not right when Scott and Murphy are coming on before him.

[ahibby]

Got to say I'm totally bewildered by the continuing absence of Doidge on the pitch, particularly when Nisbet has been so ineffective.

There is absolutely no strength, workrate or physicality at the top of the pitch. Doidge would seem such an obvious addition to the first 11. Is he still lacking fitness? Something not right when Scott and Murphy are coming on before him.

That echos my view

[RIP]

It will be a fitness decision. He was always forecast to be out until January

[SMAXXA]

For me he never played tonight as the game was effectively done when Scott came on and it was a chance for Maloney to see what Scott could do.

Same with Mueller not coming on yet Bradley got a chance.

Correct this is exactly what happened both CM and CD have long term futures at the club we put on the players we did to give them game time to show what they could do. This will enable SM to make a more informed decision on their long term future

[1875Sean]

Needs to start against cove

[WeeRussell]

It will be a fitness decision. He was always forecast to be out until January

I assumed it would be fitness-related too but been no mention of it as far as I’m aware and is a wee while now since he made his ‘return’.

Interesting to see if he’s involved Thursday night.

[007]

Correct this is exactly what happened both CM and CD have long term futures at the club we put on the players we did to give them game time to show what they could do. This will enable SM to make a more informed decision on their long term future

This makes sense. If he's going to move them on this would be the last chance to see them in a competitive match before deciding it. If they can perform against Celtic then they can perform against any team in the league. Putting in a good performance v Cove won't tell him that and after the Cove game it's Motherwell on the 26th by which time it would leave very little time for them to find another club.

Thanks, you've put my mind at rest. Reading this thread I was starting to worry he might not be in Maloney's plans but for me your post hits the nail on the head.

[The Wireless]

I assumed it would be fitness-related too but been no mention of it as far as I’m aware and is a wee while now since he made his ‘return’.

Interesting to see if he’s involved Thursday night.

I have no idea how Doidge did not get game time against Celtic. Surely he will start on Thursday

[JamesHFC]

He’s better than Nisbet but I think they are both at their best when playing together. I wouldn’t really complain if Nisbet wasn’t to play for us again though. Incredible how far downhill he has gone. James Collins without the work rate.

[percy veer]

Game was gone already. I think we were keeping him for Thursday night.

Same applies to mueller and Hallberg.

Cannae stand this "the game was gone" crapp the games never gone at 2-0 , 2-0 down at tynie should have just looked to the next game instead of trying to get back in the game then.

[Stanton Spence]

Correct this is exactly what happened both CM and CD have long term futures at the club we put on the players we did to give them game time to show what they could do. This will enable SM to make a more informed decision on their long term futureCan you please type the players name instead of just initials? I thought I was reading the script from line of duty with all the acronyms [emoji23]
I thought CM was our central midfield and CD central defender and only worked it out when I realised that SM was our gaffer
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[lord bunberry]

Cannae stand this "the game was gone" crapp the games never gone at 2-0 , 2-0 down at tynie should have just looked to the next game instead of trying to get back in the game then.
Bang on the money mate, get the next goal and it’s game on. It was baffling that Doidge didn’t come on and Scott did. Doidge isn’t the silkiest of players and I worry that Maloney doesn’t fancy him, id hope tonight I.

[Pedantic_Hibee]

Bang on the money mate, get the next goal and it’s game on. It was baffling that Doidge didn’t come on and Scott did. Doidge isn’t the silkiest of players and I worry that Maloney doesn’t fancy him, id hope tonight I.

I’ll wait…

[JimBHibees]

His non appearance is baffling. We've missed him ever since he got injured it would be a shocker from Maloney and hibs if we let him go. He should be starting

To be fair he has looked miles off it since come back probably still getting up to full speed from his serious injury.

[Greenbeard]

What is the system?
Obviously SM is developing a team that will play it short.
Goalie aside, he won't pick you if you're more than two inches taller than the boss.

[SMAXXA]

Can you please type the players name instead of just initials? I thought I was reading the script from line of duty with all the acronyms [emoji23]
I thought CM was our central midfield and CD central defender and only worked it out when I realised that SM was our gaffer
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That sounds like a you problem 😂

[flash]

To be fair he has looked miles off it since come back probably still getting up to full speed from his serious injury.

Achilles injuries are amongst the worst to recover from.
Doidge has looked like he is towing a truck since he started back playing.

[FilipinoHibs]

That sounds like a you problem 😂

No I think a lot of people had a problem desiphering your post.

[Is It On....]

Id far rather doidge in my team than nisbett. Definitely if its a lone striker ,’id actually say that if we continue to play the lone striker , we would be as well getting as much for nisbett as we can get and move him on

Heckingbottom proved, through his tactics, that Doidge doesn't thrive in the "lone striker. Nisbet has also seemed to be better playing as part of a front 2. I just hope our new management team has noted this.

[Is It On....]

Achilles injuries are amongst the worst to recover from.
Doidge has looked like he is towing a truck since he started back playing.

I was talking to a physio about this and he 100% agrees about Achilles injuries. There is no way to rush it (operation or re-set makes no major rehab difference) and he said even with constant attention like professional footballer's have it's still about 12 weeks before they can even start light training. Time, essentially, is the only true healer if this type of injury.

[SMAXXA]

No I think a lot of people had a problem desiphering your post.

Again that sounds like a non me problem

[RIP]

I was talking to a physio about this and he 100% agrees about Achilles injuries. There is no way to rush it (operation or re-set makes no major rehab difference) and he said even with constant attention like professional footballer's have it's still about 12 weeks before they can even start light training. Time, essentially, is the only true healer if this type of injury.

Having suffered an Achilles injury I was also worried when Christian was back six weeks before original estimates. Will be regretting declaring himself fit far too soon and the team is suffering as a result.

[Callum_62]

Having suffered an Achilles injury I was also worried when Christian was back six weeks before original estimates. Will be regretting declaring himself fit far too soon and the team is suffering as a result.He's no in the team so no sure how's its suffering due to him declaring himself fit?

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[Green_one]

Heckingbottom proved, through his tactics, that Doidge doesn't thrive in the "lone striker. Nisbet has also seemed to be better playing as part of a front 2. I just hope our new management team has noted this.

Always thought that the mixed talents of Doidge, Nisbet and Boyle was an asset and covered individual gaps. Like you I hope management spots the obvious

I am confused about the claim that he is still carrying the results of an injury. Why was he on the bench if he is incapable of carrying out 15 minutes against tiring opponents. Needs to play against Cove, at least in part.

[jacomo]

Letting Doidge go would be a stupid move from the club.


:agree:

[Is It On....]

Having suffered an Achilles injury I was also worried when Christian was back six weeks before original estimates. Will be regretting declaring himself fit far too soon and the team is suffering as a result.

I have done it twice 😬. The physio I was using had been at Spurs and said the players with Achilles injuries are treated around 6-8hrs per day with training around 8-10 weeks from the original injury. As such, he could he fit enough to train but some way from match fitness.

[Since452]

I hope Maloney put Scott on with a view to giving Doidge 90 mins against Cove. May have been a bit too much for Doidge to feature in both.

[Lago]

:greengrin
Can you please type the players name instead of just initials? I thought I was reading the script from line of duty with all the acronyms [emoji23]
I thought CM was our central midfield and CD central defender and only worked it out when I realised that SM was our gaffer
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[superfurryhibby]

Again that sounds like a non me problem

That's a pretty gash way to try and make a point. I had to think about who CM was. I can get referring to JDH by his initials, the others...... nah.

[WeeRussell]

Heckingbottom proved, through his tactics, that Doidge doesn't thrive in the "lone striker. Nisbet has also seemed to be better playing as part of a front 2. I just hope our new management team has noted this.

I'm not totally convinced by this. Doidge may well thrive as a lone striker yet - some of his performances post-Hecky have been night and day compared to those days. Let's not forget that under Heckingbottom it looked like Doidge could barely connect with the ball at times, and certainly didn't look like a finisher. The majority of fans were convinced he was a poor signing.

Since he's settled-in and found his form, I would argue the attributes he shows are generally befitting of an effective lone-striker.

I do agree that Nisbet could do with Doidge alongside him again though.

[SMAXXA]

That's a pretty gash way to try and make a point. I had to think about who CM was. I can get referring to JDH by his initials, the others...... nah.

Got to know your players 😂