Smoke/Heat Alarms

[Hibby70]

Anyone getting new alarms fitted to meet the new regulations.

I've got 2 exisiting wired linked alarms. But this legislation effectively means I need to replace these.

Nothing in my insurance documents (which is done through Bank of Scotland but is insured by Lloyds) says anything about having these in place.

One of them is in the hall just outside the living room door so it just seems mad having to get another. Surely just having a heat alarm in addition would be sufficient (albeit doesn't meet the full regs).

Just seems a waste of money.

[Mon Dieu4]

Anyone getting new alarms fitted to meet the new regulations.

I've got 2 exisiting wired linked alarms. But this legislation effectively means I need to replace these.

Nothing in my insurance documents (which is done through Bank of Scotland but is insured by Lloyds) says anything about having these in place.

One of them is in the hall just outside the living room door so it just seems mad having to get another. Surely just having a heat alarm in addition would be sufficient (albeit doesn't meet the full regs).

Just seems a waste of money.

I fitted mine last week and my folks last year, your insurance documents won't mention it just now but keep an eye on that, they will do in the future as insurance companies won't miss a trick

[Jamesie]

I've bought a set myself from safelincs - battery powered but last for 10 years so a lot less faffing than getting them mains wired. £102 delivered for two smoke detectors and a heat alarm.

[Jamesie]

I fitted mine last week and my folks last year, your insurance documents won't mention it just now but keep an eye on that, they will do in the future as insurance companies won't miss a trick

May well be something generic in the terms re the property being kept compliant with all relevant laws and regulations etc

[Mon Dieu4]

May well be something generic in the terms re the property being kept compliant with all relevant laws and regulations etc

Yep, I bought the same safelincs ones as you it seems, also got 3m pads to stick them on as I couldn't be arsed drilling, good company, liked that their website specifically stated what alarms met the new regulations

[Hibby70]

May well be something generic in the terms re the property being kept compliant with all relevant laws and regulations etc

Thought that but couldn't see anything, does say about keep ing damage to a minimum so could probably argue that.

I'll probably get them as much as I'm moaning about it I'm quite risk averse.

[overdrive]

Anyone getting new alarms fitted to meet the new regulations.

I've got 2 exisiting wired linked alarms. But this legislation effectively means I need to replace these.

Nothing in my insurance documents (which is done through Bank of Scotland but is insured by Lloyds) says anything about having these in place.

One of them is in the hall just outside the living room door so it just seems mad having to get another. Surely just having a heat alarm in addition would be sufficient (albeit doesn't meet the full regs).

Just seems a waste of money.

I already have them as it is a newish built house (though I'm sure it is an actual smoke alarm they put in the kitchen rather than a heat alarm as it goes off at the slightest bit of steam/smoke).

I read something on LinkedIn today, though, which I didn't realise was the case... you are meant to replace them every 10 years. Is that right?

[grunt]

I've bought a set myself from safelincs - battery powered but last for 10 years so a lot less faffing than getting them mains wired. £102 delivered for two smoke detectors and a heat alarm.Thanks for this - is there something that helps you work out what you need?

[Hibby70]

Thanks for this - is there something that helps you work out what you need?

You basically need one smoke alarm for each landing/hall, 1 smoke alarm for your main living area and 1 heat alarm for the kitchen.

So a 2 storey house would need 3 smoke and 1 heat alarm.

[patch1875]

Think I need to look into this house goes on the market on a few months assume it has to be done beforehand.

[degenerated]

You basically need one smoke alarm for each landing/hall, 1 smoke alarm for your main living area and 1 heat alarm for the kitchen.

So a 2 storey house would need 3 smoke and 1 heat alarm.And a carbon monoxide monitor if you have a gas boiler or appliances. Doesn't need to be linked to fire alarms though.

[Jack]

We've just bought a house recently. Before that it had been rented out and therefore has hard wired smoke and heat alarms.

I assume they'll be of a type that match the new regulations? 🤔

[w pilton hibby]

We've just bought a house recently. Before that it had been rented out and therefore has hard wired smoke and heat alarms.

I assume they'll be of a type that match the new regulations? 🤔

I wouldn't assume.

My Housing Association flat had hard wired heat and smoke alarms and they didn't meet the new regulations.

Have now been replaced with new battery powered models.

[Just Alf]

We've just bought a house recently. Before that it had been rented out and therefore has hard wired smoke and heat alarms.

I assume they'll be of a type that match the new regulations? [emoji848]If we're talking Scotland then yes, the new legislation is to bring owner/occupier properties up.to the same higher standards that rental properties have had for a few years.

Actually the new legislation is slightly different as it allows battery operated whereas the original rental version needed to be hard wired.

Edit... just read a few more posts... the above is assuming the rental property actually does meet the legislation, you'd be amazed how many property take ons we get that need work on their smokies!

[Jack]

Thanks guys.

[Jamesie]

Think I need to look into this house goes on the market on a few months assume it has to be done beforehand.

Not sure - Compliance at present doesn’t form part of a Home Report but that may change.

[Jamesie]

Thanks for this - is there something that helps you work out what you need?

Have a look here: https://www.gov.scot/publications/fire-and-smoke-alarms-in-scottish-homes/

[The Harp Awakes]

I wouldn't assume.

My Housing Association flat had hard wired heat and smoke alarms and they didn't meet the new regulations.

Have now been replaced with new battery powered models.

Same here. The requirement is that smoke and heat alarms are interconnected, so if 1 goes off, they all go off.

We had hard wired smoke alarms in our house which weren't interconnected. Replacing them with interconnected battery operated alarms is probably the cheapest way of meeting the new regulations. However, if you are replacing hard wired smoke/heat alarms, then it's sensible to get an electrician to make safe the live mains connection.

[Jim44]

You basically need one smoke alarm for each landing/hall, 1 smoke alarm for your main living area and 1 heat alarm for the kitchen.

So a 2 storey house would need 3 smoke and 1 heat alarm.

The problem there is that many folk have an open plan kitchen and main living area so that in effect you have to put a smoke alarm fairly near the cooking area and therefore put up with the probable nuisance aspect of it going off every other day. I think I’ll put a smoke alarm in the upstairs and downstairs halls, a smoke alarm in my sitting room ( although it’s not the area I spend most time in ) and a heat alarm in the kitchen. I think that would cover me legally.

[Hibby70]

The problem there is that many folk have an open plan kitchen and main living area so that in effect you have to put a smoke alarm fairly near the cooking area and therefore put up with the probable nuisance aspect of it going off every other day. I think I’ll put a smoke alarm in the upstairs and downstairs halls, a smoke alarm in my sitting room ( although it’s not the area I spend most time in ) and a heat alarm in the kitchen. I think that would cover me legally.

Actually a lot of people will spend more time in their beds than anywhere else

[Peanut Shaz]

I wouldn't assume.

My Housing Association flat had hard wired heat and smoke alarms and they didn't meet the new regulations.

Have now been replaced with new battery powered models.

I work for a Housing Association in Edinburgh and we have just completed our programme to fit all properties
With Linked Detectors. Nightmare logistically but we got there eventually!

[Jim44]

Is it possible to interlink 3 smoke detectors from one brand with a heat detector of a different brand?

Ps meant to say, wirelessly interlinked, not hardwired.

[grunt]

Have a look here: https://www.gov.scot/publications/fire-and-smoke-alarms-in-scottish-homes/
Thank you.

[Moulin Yarns]

Anyone getting new alarms fitted to meet the new regulations.

I've got 2 exisiting wired linked alarms. But this legislation effectively means I need to replace these.

Nothing in my insurance documents (which is done through Bank of Scotland but is insured by Lloyds) says anything about having these in place.

One of them is in the hall just outside the living room door so it just seems mad having to get another. Surely just having a heat alarm in addition would be sufficient (albeit doesn't meet the full regs).

Just seems a waste of money.


Probably too late but, depending on the make you might be able to upgrade them. I have Aico alarms, all wired to the mains and all I needed to do was replace the base units and fit a new one in the living room. Saves a bit if you are competent.

[Moulin Yarns]

Is it possible to interlink 3 smoke detectors from one brand with a heat detector of a different brand?

Ps meant to say, wirelessly interlinked, not hardwired.

Don't think so. Wavebands will be different.

[Pete]

I see lots of these interlinked alarm systems out there that have replaceable batteries and therefore don't comply with the regulations. Especially the cheap ones on eBay and Amazon.
Even these 'reputable' companies that are selling them, I want brand and model numbers of the products so I can check them out, or it's no deal.
I just got smoke, heat (from the same brand) and carbon monoxide alarms separately and saved a bit of money compared to what these packs cost.
Bit of profiteering going on.

[overdrive]

I see lots of these interlinked alarm systems out there that have replaceable batteries and therefore don't comply with the regulations. Especially the cheap ones on eBay and Amazon.
Even these 'reputable' companies that are selling them, I want brand and model numbers of the products so I can check them out, or it's no deal.
I just got smoke, heat (from the same brand) and carbon monoxide alarms separately and saved a bit of money compared to what these packs cost.
Bit of profiteering going on.

Bugger! I didn’t realise the replaceable battery rule. Our interlinked ones have replaceable batteries as we replaced one a couple of months ago.

[overdrive]

I've bought a set myself from safelincs - battery powered but last for 10 years so a lot less faffing than getting them mains wired. £102 delivered for two smoke detectors and a heat alarm.

Are they easy to install yourself?

[overdrive]

Are you allowed to stick them on the ceiling with self-adhesive stickers or do they have to be screwed in?

[Mon Dieu4]

Are you allowed to stick them on the ceiling with self-adhesive stickers or do they have to be screwed in?

I stuck mine up, not sure what the law says on that part though

[overdrive]

I stuck mine up, not sure what the law says on that part though

Cheers. I’ve ordered from the place Jamesie mentioned above. They aren’t coming until the start of Feb though.

What I’ll do is unscrew the ones that are there just now and see if I can reuse the screw fixings for the new ones (or at least one screw). If not, I’ll stick them up with self adhesive stickers.

I can’t be bothered drilling into the ceiling and hoping there isn’t wiring above where I’m drilling

[Jamesie]

Are they easy to install yourself?

Took me about 30 minutes on Saturday night - the hardest bit was getting them to all sit within the same home group, but after a couple of attempts it worked no bother :thumbsup:

[Jamesie]

Are you allowed to stick them on the ceiling with self-adhesive stickers or do they have to be screwed in?

Didn’t see anything suggesting they had to be screwed in (although they do come with screws if you so wish). The alarms are all very light, so I just used a bit of no-nails tape and stuck them next to my existing detectors. If I ever burn toast now I’m going to be very unpopular with the neighbours :greengrin

[Jamesie]

Cheers. I’ve ordered from the place Jamesie mentioned above. They aren’t coming until the start of Feb though.

What I’ll do is unscrew the ones that are there just now and see if I can reuse the screw fixings for the new ones (or at least one screw). If not, I’ll stick them up with self adhesive stickers.

I can’t be bothered drilling into the ceiling and hoping there isn’t wiring above where I’m drilling

Likewise I couldn’t be bothered unscrewing the existing ones (which were installed when the flat was built in 2007 and haven’t been touched since).

[BS44]

I've bought a set myself from safelincs - battery powered but last for 10 years so a lot less faffing than getting them mains wired. £102 delivered for two smoke detectors and a heat alarm.

How did you get on pairing the alarms? I got safelincs for my mammy's house but can only get two of the three to pair up

[Jamesie]

How did you get on pairing the alarms? I got safelincs for my mammy's house but can only get two of the three to pair up

Had the same issue - found the attached online and found if I held the button down long enough they'd eventually pair... Not ideal though!

[BS44]

Had the same issue - found the attached online and found if I held the button down long enough they'd eventually pair... Not ideal though!

Smashing, thanks! Those instructions look better than the ones that arrived with the alarms

[James310]

https://twitter.com/andywightman/status/1483863505463873538?t=HLRGCnsDGuOBue89xFwf6g&s=19

This was very helpful. This part being particularly interesting.

There is no legal requirement to fit such alarms. It is not an offence to not have them fitted. What it does mean is that your house will not be of a tolerable standard.

He does go on and say he recommends you get it done though.

[heretoday]

Strange there hasn't been more forewarning about all this. You'd think a leaflet through the door from the government or indeed from insurance companies would have been in order. They sent plenty of stuff about jabs!
Maybe there was and I ignored it, thinking that I was already alarmed up enough.

[Hiber-nation]

Strange there hasn't been more forewarning about all this. You'd think a leaflet through the door from the government or indeed from insurance companies would have been in order. They sent plenty of stuff about jabs!
Maybe there was and I ignored it, thinking that I was already alarmed up enough.

Yeah the SG's message seems to be you should really do this but we're not forcing you to as we don't want criticism for making people fork out money they can't afford.

[Moulin Yarns]

Strange there hasn't been more forewarning about all this. You'd think a leaflet through the door from the government or indeed from insurance companies would have been in order. They sent plenty of stuff about jabs!
Maybe there was and I ignored it, thinking that I was already alarmed up enough.

I had plenty of forewarning, I got a manufacturer leaflet through the post more than a year ago, when it was first meant to be implemented in February 2021 ( I think, it might even have been 2020).

There is no excuse for not knowing about it.

[Jamesie]

https://twitter.com/andywightman/status/1483863505463873538?t=HLRGCnsDGuOBue89xFwf6g&s=19

This was very helpful. This part being particularly interesting.

There is no legal requirement to fit such alarms. It is not an offence to not have them fitted. What it does mean is that your house will not be of a tolerable standard.

He does go on and say he recommends you get it done though.

Yes, but there’s a good chance that your home insurer will have a clause somewhere in the small print to the effect that the policy may be voided if your home is not maintained to a tolerable standard.

[Just Alf]

Yes, but there’s a good chance that your home insurer will have a clause somewhere in the small print to the effect that the policy may be voided if your home is not maintained to a tolerable standard.Not sure about selling your home, but 100% can't rent out your property legally if its not to a tolerable standard.

[oldbutdim]

I've bought a set myself from safelincs - battery powered but last for 10 years so a lot less faffing than getting them mains wired. £102 delivered for two smoke detectors and a heat alarm.

I may be wrong (again) but I believe the 10 year batteries don't actually last ten years in the linked devices. You'd be lucky to get 5, and perhaps as little as two.

Still a decent alternative though.

[Hibby70]

So if one of your batteries goes after a couple of years you have to either buy another of the same frequency or get another 3 new ones?

[lapsedhibee]

I may be wrong (again) but I believe the 10 year batteries don't actually last ten years in the linked devices. You'd be lucky to get 5, and perhaps as little as two.


Source please?

[Just Alf]

I see lots of these interlinked alarm systems out there that have replaceable batteries and therefore don't comply with the regulations. Especially the cheap ones on eBay and Amazon.
Even these 'reputable' companies that are selling them, I want brand and model numbers of the products so I can check them out, or it's no deal.
I just got smoke, heat (from the same brand) and carbon monoxide alarms separately and saved a bit of money compared to what these packs cost.
Bit of profiteering going on.Just to be clear, if they're hard wired electrically powered they must have a battery back up to meet the regulation (this can be replaceable)

Non electric, Battery powered alarms need to have the non replaceable batteries.

(As advised by our alarm company)

[BS44]

Are the adhesive stickers for the alarms any good? I was going to put them on the wall but instructions say better on ceiling in central position, my Ma lives in a tenement with high ceilings, wouldn't fancy one of the alarms possibly falling and hitting someone

[heretoday]

We've got alarms already which are tested regularly and a monoxide alarm in the kitchen. What's the benefit. Of replacing them with the interlinked ones?
I'm thinking this whole thing will just give the insurance compnies another reason not to pay up.

[lapsedhibee]

We've got alarms already which are tested regularly and a monoxide alarm in the kitchen. What's the benefit. Of replacing them with the interlinked ones?


Marginally quicker notification that your house is on fire. No benefit if your house is not on fire.

[Jones28]

I have a log burning stove that can blow back in to the room if I’m trying to light it and it’s windy. Do I need a detector in the living room where the stove is or just the kitchen and the hall way?

[Jim44]

I have a log burning stove that can blow back in to the room if I’m trying to light it and it’s windy. Do I need a detector in the living room where the stove is or just the kitchen and the hall way?

My understanding is that, as well as a smoke alarm in each hall landing and a heat alarm in the kitchen, you should/must have a smoke alarm in the part of the house you spend most time in. As I’ve posted earlier, my quandary is that my kitchen is opened up with a living area at one end. I don’t really want to put a smoke alarm so close to the kitchen (essentially in it) and have it going off when I burn the toast. I’m wondering if a smoke alarm, on each landing, a smoke alarm in my sitting room ( technically not where I spend most time) and a heat alarm in the kitchen will comply with the regulations. After all, who’s to argue that I don’t spend most living time in my sitting room.

Ps I meant to add that I have ordered my requirements but they will not be dispatched till early February. I wonder where that places me legally with my insurance company. At the moment I have working smoke alarms and c/d detectors but where do I stand if I have a raging fire on the 1st of February.

[Hibby70]

My understanding is that, as well as a smoke alarm in each hall landing and a heat alarm in the kitchen, you should/must have a smoke alarm in the part of the house you spend most time in. As I’ve posted earlier, my quandary is that my kitchen is opened up with a living area at one end. I don’t really want to put a smoke alarm so close to the kitchen (essentially in it) and have it going off when I burn the toast. I’m wondering if a smoke alarm, on each landing, a smoke alarm in my sitting room ( technically not where I spend most time) and a heat alarm in the kitchen will comply with the regulations. After all, who’s to argue that I don’t spend most living time in my sitting room.

Ps I meant to add that I have ordered my requirements but they will not be dispatched till early February. I wonder where that places me legally with my insurance company. At the moment I have working smoke alarms and c/d detectors but where do I stand if I have a raging fire on the 1st of February.
Just say you did have them but they must have melted in the fire 🔥

[lapsedhibee]

My understanding is that, as well as a smoke alarm in each hall landing and a heat alarm in the kitchen, you should/must have a smoke alarm in the part of the house you spend most time in. As I’ve posted earlier, my quandary is that my kitchen is opened up with a living area at one end. I don’t really want to put a smoke alarm so close to the kitchen (essentially in it) and have it going off when I burn the toast. I’m wondering if a smoke alarm, on each landing, a smoke alarm in my sitting room ( technically not where I spend most time) and a heat alarm in the kitchen will comply with the regulations. After all, who’s to argue that I don’t spend most living time in my sitting room.

Ps I meant to add that I have ordered my requirements but they will not be dispatched till early February. I wonder where that places me legally with my insurance company. At the moment I have working smoke alarms and c/d detectors but where do I stand if I have a raging fire on the 1st of February.

Well back.

[Jim44]

Well back.

:tee hee:

[speedy_gonzales]

I have a log burning stove that can blow back in to the room if I’m trying to light it and it’s windy. Do I need a detector in the living room where the stove is or just the kitchen and the hall way?

You should have a CO monitor also.

[oldbutdim]

Source please?

It was stated on the manufacturer web site.
I’ll try and find it.

[oldbutdim]

Source please?

It may apply only to the 'replaceable battery' types. Hope this helps.
From the interlinc site.



This long life lithium battery is an ideal replacement for standard 9V smoke alarm batteries, with an increased lifespan of up to ten times more than some standard alternatives.

Lasts up to 5 times longer than alkaline batteries and up to 10 times longer than carbon-zinc batteries
Also suitable for Carbon Monoxide Alarms
Capacity 800mAh
Please note: These lithium batteries will achieve a lifespan of up to 10 years when installed in standalone alarms. When fitted in radio-interlinked alarms such as the Ei3100RF series, their higher power requirement reduces the life of the battery to 2-5 years.

[Coco Bryce]

My missus works in insurance.

There is no truth in the rumour that your policy will be null and void if your house went on fire with out these new alarms fitted.

All insurance companies would have to write to you stating any changes in your policy because of these new regs.

No need to panic.

[degenerated]

Are the adhesive stickers for the alarms any good? I was going to put them on the wall but instructions say better on ceiling in central position, my Ma lives in a tenement with high ceilings, wouldn't fancy one of the alarms possibly falling and hitting someoneIt depends on the ceiling texture I think.

I put my them up at my mum's using the sticky pads and most of them fell off so I ended up screwing them up.

The ones I got didn't come with the adhesive pads and I used gorilla heavy duty double sided mounting tape and I reckon you could do pull ups on them. Downside though is I'll probably need to move house before they run out cause they definitely aren't coming down :greengrin

[lapsedhibee]

It may apply only to the 'replaceable battery' types. Hope this helps.
From the interlinc site.



This long life lithium battery is an ideal replacement for standard 9V smoke alarm batteries, with an increased lifespan of up to ten times more than some standard alternatives.

Lasts up to 5 times longer than alkaline batteries and up to 10 times longer than carbon-zinc batteries
Also suitable for Carbon Monoxide Alarms
Capacity 800mAh
Please note: These lithium batteries will achieve a lifespan of up to 10 years when installed in standalone alarms. When fitted in radio-interlinked alarms such as the Ei3100RF series, their higher power requirement reduces the life of the battery to 2-5 years.

Thanks.

Yes, that's the replaceable 9v batteries, not the fixed jobs. (Phew!)

[007]

Article gets chopped off before the end for me but I can see enough to know I've forked out £165 unnecessarily to upgrade a perfectly good, legal and compliant system.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-shambolic-fire-alarm-rules-go-up-smoke-scotland-5zk97lt5r

SNP’s ‘shambolic’ fire alarm rules go up in smoke in Scotland

The Scottish government has admitted that there will be no enforcement of a looming fire alarm law, leading to criticism from opposition politicians who described it as a total shambles that had fuelled unnecessary panic and confusion.

Homeowners and landlords had been told that interlinked smoke detectors and, where necessary, carbon monoxide alarms, needed to be fitted by February 1 amid warnings that failure to comply could lead to enforcement and invalidate home insurance policies.

However, the Scottish government told The Sunday Times on Friday that “no one will be penalised if they do not install these alarms”. Instead, said officials, homeowners were “encouraged” to do so.

Several of the UK’s largest insurance companies confirmed last week that cover for Scottish homeowners will not

[Moulin Yarns]

Article gets chopped off before the end for me but I can see enough to know I've forked out £165 unnecessarily to upgrade a perfectly good, legal and compliant system.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/snp-shambolic-fire-alarm-rules-go-up-smoke-scotland-5zk97lt5r

SNP’s ‘shambolic’ fire alarm rules go up in smoke in Scotland

The Scottish government has admitted that there will be no enforcement of a looming fire alarm law, leading to criticism from opposition politicians who described it as a total shambles that had fuelled unnecessary panic and confusion.

Homeowners and landlords had been told that interlinked smoke detectors and, where necessary, carbon monoxide alarms, needed to be fitted by February 1 amid warnings that failure to comply could lead to enforcement and invalidate home insurance policies.

However, the Scottish government told The Sunday Times on Friday that “no one will be penalised if they do not install these alarms”. Instead, said officials, homeowners were “encouraged” to do so.

Several of the UK’s largest insurance companies confirmed last week that cover for Scottish homeowners will not

I think the issue would arise when you try to sell your house and it will be included in the home report. £165 spent now saves thousands in the future?! It is also for the safety of you, your family and your property.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-60190498?at_custom1=%5Bpost+type%5D&at_custom3=%40BBCScotlandNews&at_custom2=twitter&at_custom4=EC5FF7BA-81E6-11EC-A67A-C5540EDC252D&at_campaign=64&at_medium=custom7
New funding for vulnerable people.

[Coco Bryce]

I think the issue would arise when you try to sell your house and it will be included in the home report. £165 spent now saves thousands in the future?! It is also for the safety of you, your family and your property.

A smoke/Heat alarm cant put a fire out :greengrin

[Paul1642]

The problem I have with this is that I currently have two smoke alarms, one in my downstairs hand and one in the upstairs hall. I can easily hear either of these anywhere in my house. The things are almost deafening by design. Same applies to my kitchen Co2 alarm. I feel i don’t need interlinked alarms as the only benefit I can see is it removes the risk of not hearing a far away alarm which is simply not an issue in most modest sized houses or flats.

I absolutely see a benefit to this in huge houses and offices / commercial premises. People like me should be allowed to just get a heat Alarm added to the kitchen and be done with it.

[Franck Le God]

My missus works in insurance.

There is no truth in the rumour that your policy will be null and void if your house went on fire with out these new alarms fitted.

All insurance companies would have to write to you stating any changes in your policy because of these new regs.

No need to panic.

I work for nationwide and they’ve come out and categorically stated they wouldn’t decline any fire claim solely on the basis of the alarm system not being up to the new specs - they see that as being unfair seeing as properties elsewhere in the UK would be covered with the ‘old’ style systems.

Not sure how it would affect a home report though.


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[Just Alf]

I work for nationwide and they’ve come out and categorically stated they wouldn’t decline any fire claim solely on the basis of the alarm system not being up to the new specs - they see that as being unfair seeing as properties elsewhere in the UK would be covered with the ‘old’ style systems.

Not sure how it would affect a home report though.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think it does effect the Home Report as technically the property doesn't meet legal requirements.

Interesting about the insurance element though, as all 4 nations have committed to this legislation, when the others catch up do you know if it will become an issue then?

[Franck Le God]

I think it does effect the Home Report as technically the property doesn't meet legal requirements.

Interesting about the insurance element though, as all 4 nations have committed to this legislation, when the others catch up do you know if it will become an issue then?

Don’t know for sure but I imagine they’d review once all 4 nations are aligned.


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[Moulin Yarns]

Don’t know for sure but I imagine they’d review once all 4 nations are aligned.


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Considering that Scotland put the legislation in place and delayed the roll out by a year because of a wee pandemic you have to wonder what is keeping the other nations?

[Paul1642]

Considering that Scotland put the legislation in place and delayed the roll out by a year because of a wee pandemic you have to wonder what is keeping the other nations?

The fact that the cost of living is sky rocketing and that folk can’t really afford £200 or so right now strikes me as a good a reason as any. It should have been brought in with a huge timeline, to allow all new builds and property’s under renovation to bring in the new systems and allow everyone else to do it at a time that suits them rather than forcing peoples hands.

[Moulin Yarns]

The fact that the cost of living is sky rocketing and that folk can’t really afford £200 or so right now strikes me as a good a reason as any. It should have been brought in with a huge timeline, to allow all new builds and property’s under renovation to bring in the new systems and allow everyone else to do it at a time that suits them rather than forcing peoples hands.

It was originally brought in in 2019!! 3 years ago. I was compliant last year because I knew it was happening. The current economic climate is no reason for more delay. IMHO

All new build and renovation projects will comply!