SFA Complaint re Paul McGinn

[dastardly8]

Why does this happen ? , if I didn’t do my job right I’m sure my bosses would complain , John Beatons bosses should be complaining about him after that performance.

Paul McGinn only said what everybody thinks , pathetic you can’t voice your views after being blatantly cheated.

When was the last time we heard an SFA complaint lodged against the old firm or has it ever happened.

Clubs need to start backing their players and stand up to the SFA.

[Scottie]

High bloody time we heard directly from the referees after the game to clarify & justify their decisions during the match. Some of those decisions from Beaton on Sunday has maybe cost Hibs a couple of hundred thousand in lost revenue from sales of merchandise if we'd gone on to win the final never mind prize money.

I would have loved for the hierarchy of our club to have called that performance out on Sunday not just Paul McGinn. At some point something has to be done about these scandalous performances from so called professionals.

[where'stheslope]

The big problem with these things is the fact because you are just one team it sounds like sour grapes!
If other clubs were to stand up side by side we could then maybe get something done?
Problem is if its another team, we all laugh at it and say they deserve it, so getting other teams to help is almost impossible.
That is why we will just have to suck it!!!

[A Hi-Bee]

Is this "Sporting Integrity" or even democratic, why would such practices be court cases in America and not in Scotland, both democratic country's I would have thought.

"The SFA charge is for a breach of disciplinary rule 72, which covers remarks that "indicate bias or incompetence on the part of a match official".

So, if anyone even indicates a potential bias or incompetence they are in breach of the games laws, if this is the case then they should be changed.

What kind of so called democratic society do we live in that we allow this nonsense to continue.

The club must back this man, he speaks the truth, the men in black speak with forked tongue's.

:flag::flag::flag:

[Keith_M]

Is this "Sporting Integrity" or even democratic, why would such practices be court cases in America and not in Scotland, both democratic country's I would have thought.

"The SFA charge is for a breach of disciplinary rule 72, which covers remarks that "indicate bias or incompetence on the part of a match official".

So, if anyone even indicates a potential bias or incompetence they are in breach of the games laws, if this is the case then they should be changed.

What kind of so called democratic society do we live in that we allow this nonsense to continue.

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That's the problem, his decisions had to be one or the other (I personally think incompetence).

But nobody's allowed to say what they think.

[Frazerbob]

Should set up a crowd funding to pay for his fine.

[surreyhibbie]

Should set up a crowd funding to pay for his fine.


I'm in..:agree:

[greenginger]

Is this "Sporting Integrity" or even democratic, why would such practices be court cases in America and not in Scotland, both democratic country's I would have thought.

"The SFA charge is for a breach of disciplinary rule 72, which covers remarks that "indicate bias or incompetence on the part of a match official".

So, if anyone even indicates a potential bias or incompetence they are in breach of the games laws, if this is the case then they should be changed.

What kind of so called democratic society do we live in that we allow this nonsense to continue.

The club must back this man, he speaks the truth, the men in black speak with forked tongue's.

:flag::flag::flag:
Anybody remember any recent similar criticism of referees by either of the old firm, that resulted in no action from the SFA ?

[One Day]

Should set up a crowd funding to pay for his fine.

That would be great

[Eyrie]

Anybody remember any recent similar criticism of referees by either of the old firm, that resulted in no action from the SFA ?

Certainly none by that nice Mr Gerrard who was always so respectful and understanding to referees.

[Waxy]

Beaton should never ref a top Scottish football match again.
He’s been outed as completely incompetent in a major cup final.
Goodbye.

[hibbysam]

Anybody remember any recent similar criticism of referees by either of the old firm, that resulted in no action from the SFA ?

Celtics chairman basically called all refs cheats at the Agm.

[Lancs Harp]

Beaton should never ref a top Scottish football match again.
He’s been outed as completely incompetent in a major cup final.
Goodbye.

Celtic might retire him after Sunday.

[JimBHibees]

Anybody remember any recent similar criticism of referees by either of the old firm, that resulted in no action from the SFA ?

Off the top of my head Gerrard was able to critics refs on a weekly basis while Robbie replay wasn't shy about it. Did they get punished?

[Dmas]

Beaton should never ref a top Scottish football match again.
He’s been outed as completely incompetent in a major cup final.
Goodbye.

Guy on the long bangers podcast called it spot on, Beaton can’t referee Celtic games, he’s been caught on the peev in the Loudon bar any big decision he gives against Celtic will now be viewed as biased cause he’s rangers and he’ll be hammered from all angles, it’s easier for him to just not call them.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Should set up a crowd funding to pay for his fine.

Count me in :aok:

[NAE NOOKIE]

Guy on the long bangers podcast called it spot on, Beaton can’t referee Celtic games, he’s been caught on the peev in the Loudon bar any big decision he gives against Celtic will now be viewed as biased cause he’s rangers and he’ll be hammered from all angles, it’s easier for him to just not call them.

Given that there is little doubt the guy is a Sticky Bun in my opinion his strategy for nipping any idea of pro Rangers bias in the bud is to favour Celtic any time he is in charge of one of their games .... his double standards refereeing at Easter Road a few weeks ago was so obvious it's a wonder none of the Hibs players or management publicly called him out on it then. The guy should never be let near a top flight game again and certainly not a Hibs one.

If the SFA are true to form he's an absolute cert for next years Scottish cup final.

[ekhibee]

Should set up a crowd funding to pay for his fine.

Yep, good call, count me in.

[JimBHibees]

Guy on the long bangers podcast called it spot on, Beaton can’t referee Celtic games, he’s been caught on the peev in the Loudon bar any big decision he gives against Celtic will now be viewed as biased cause he’s rangers and he’ll be hammered from all angles, it’s easier for him to just not call them.

Yep it was a good point. Given all the top refs are from West central Scotland it is much easier to hack us off than fans you will live and work with. That is why imo the geography of where they are from is and always has been an issue and not fit for purpose. You also have to query his personal integrity that he was happy to go out after refereeing an old firm game where he ignored two or three blatant red cards by the same player and have a few pints in a Rangers pub.

[greenginger]

Yep it was a good point. Given all the top refs are from West central Scotland it is much easier to hack us off than fans you will live and work with. That is why imo the geography of where they are from is and always has been an issue and not fit for purpose. You also have to query his personal integrity that he was happy to go out after refereeing an old firm game where he ignored two or three blatant red cards by the same player and have a few pints in a Rangers pub.

Add to that what happens in the media if a bad call is made against one of the old firm.

It gets amplified and highlighted time and again.

Make a bad call in favour of the old firm and it’s barely mentioned.

[JimBHibees]

Add to that what happens in the media if a bad call is made against one of the old firm.

It gets amplified and highlighted time and again.

Make a bad call in favour of the old firm and it’s barely mentioned.

Totally agree. I can remember as a kid a clearly doctored photo by the Daily Record to try and make out there was contact when John MacDonald dived at ER for a pen. Aye been as they say in the Borders.

[overdrive]

Is this "Sporting Integrity" or even democratic, why would such practices be court cases in America and not in Scotland, both democratic country's I would have thought.

"The SFA charge is for a breach of disciplinary rule 72, which covers remarks that "indicate bias or incompetence on the part of a match official".

So, if anyone even indicates a potential bias or incompetence they are in breach of the games laws, if this is the case then they should be changed.

What kind of so called democratic society do we live in that we allow this nonsense to continue.

The club must back this man, he speaks the truth, the men in black speak with forked tongue's.

:flag::flag::flag:

A rule like that is asking for trouble given referee corruption found in other countries and in a day and age of whistleblowing policies. There’s a massive disincentive to report any suspected match fixing on the part of referees.

[staunchhibby]

E-Mail compliance officer and ask what they are going to do about Beatons performance as he was the cause of the complaint

[ahibby]

Players and club officials pulled up for lacking sporting integrity but Beaton hasnt any. One law for them and another ..... I thought he was okay until Sunday's fiasco.

[ancient hibee]

Add to that what happens in the media if a bad call is made against one of the old firm.

It gets amplified and highlighted time and again.

Make a bad call in favour of the old firm and it’s barely mentioned.

That really is rubbish. Don't you remember the Celtic goal against Hearts?Similarly in the final there was far more press comment about our penalty compared to the one Celtic should have got.

[Danderhall Hibs]

That really is rubbish. Don't you remember the Celtic goal against Hearts?Similarly in the final there was far more press comment about our penalty compared to the one Celtic should have got.

The offside goal? It was highlighted by Neilson and mainly he was hit by a barrage of whataboutery.

Out one was a pen and theirs wasn’t - making it worthy of a mention they can sweep away quickly. As one of the boys on the terrace podcast said it’s a 2 handed push vs a nudge - not even directly comparable. A bit like the free kick for their 2nd not being comparable to the “penalty”.

He took the easy life - his windows stay in tact, no online death threats and no doubt more cup finals and UEFA listings.

[ancient hibee]

The offside goal? It was highlighted by Neilson and mainly he was hit by a barrage of whataboutery.

Out one was a pen and theirs wasn’t - making it worthy of a mention they can sweep away quickly. As one of the boys on the terrace podcast said it’s a 2 handed push be a nudge - not even directly comparable. A bit like the free kick for their 2nd not being comparable to the “penalty”.

He took the easy life - his windows stay in tact, no online death threats and no doubt more cup finals and UEFA listings.

Sorry . What do you mean "it's a two handed push be a nudge" ?

[Danderhall Hibs]

Sorry . What do you mean "it's a two handed push be a nudge" ?

Fat fingers / predictive - should be vs.

[ancient hibee]

Fat fingers / predictive - should be vs.

Thanks. I would have thought it was more a two handed push vs an assault. Both stonewallers.

[hibbysam]

Thanks. I would have thought it was more a two handed push vs an assault. Both stonewallers.

An assault? The two players crossed path and tangled legs off the ball, it’s literally a coming together and isn’t a foul. The other was a conscious push by Celtic player who knew he was wrong side.

[ancient hibee]

An assault? The two players crossed path and tangled legs off the ball, it’s literally a coming together and isn’t a foul. The other was a conscious push by Celtic player who knew he was wrong side.
I haven’t got the faintest idea what you’re talking about.
First half McGinn pushed the Celtic player over with both hands in the middle of his back before the ball reached them . Injury time Porteous was thrown to the ground. Both incidents were stonewall penalties.

[Hibbyradge]

I haven’t got the faintest idea what you’re talking about.
First half McGinn pushed the Celtic player over with both hands in the middle of his back before the ball reached them . Injury time Porteous was thrown to the ground. Both incidents were stonewall penalties.

You're right about the first looking like a shove, but it wasn't as blatant as the second. Even the commentator said that there wasn't much in the McGinn one.