Get the stadium filled tommorrow

[dp00]

No brainer hibs , reduce the prices , get the place rocking

If you feel safe to go then get to the game and support the team. Could be last time for a while


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[Real Emerald]

No brainer hibs , reduce the prices , get the place rocking

If you feel safe to go then get to the game and support the team. Could be last time for a while


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You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

[Broken Gnome]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

Ok, well to stop this going the way of all the cup final thread and all similar conversations...

If you feel safe and comfortable enough and can afford it, go tomorrow as Hibs could really do with the support/money


Sorted.

[Real Emerald]

Ok, well to stop this going the way of all the cup final thread and all similar conversations...

If you feel safe and comfortable enough and can afford it, go tomorrow as Hibs could really do with the support/money


Sorted.

They’ve already got my money.

[AugustaHibs]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

Might get hit by a bus or the stadium might collapse too.

Get a grip.

[Magpie]

Might get hit by a bus or the stadium might collapse too.

Get a grip.

🤣

[hibbysam]

Might get hit by a bus or the stadium might collapse too.

Get a grip.

Amen.

[Helensburghhibs]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

Or you might catch covid, not even notice and carry on with Christmas knowing the risk you took to prioritise football, as was your perogative as an adult.

[Broken Gnome]

They’ve already got my money.

Ok, in your personal circumstance it's not a rallying call that's captured you, fair enough.

Can those that do want to get involved get on with it?

[mcohibs]

Ok, in your personal circumstance it's not a rallying call that's captured you, fair enough.

Can those that do want to get involved get on with it?

Do folk genuinely think Hibs would drop prices to get thousands of more people into the stadium given what's just been announced? They'd be absolutely crucified for doing that and rightly so. Mental.

[hibbysam]

Do folk genuinely think Hibs would drop prices to get thousands of more people into the stadium given what's just been announced? They'd be absolutely crucified for doing that and rightly so. Mental.

Crucified by who? The folk who are allowing it for another 4 days just so they can have a Christmas? What about those of us who don’t really care for Xmas and would rather have a big Boxing Day and Hogmanay?

[Chorley Hibee]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

It's not so dangerous as to close anything else to us though is it?

It's just football that is seen as a danger to society, whilst everything else carries on pretty much as normal.

It's not so dangerous as to effect Christmas either, it only becomes serious after the 25th.

It's all laughable now.

[Chorley Hibee]

I'd like to see all the clubs acting in unison here and calling the Scottish Government out for this continued nonsense.

[Irish_Steve]

Has anyone ever seen someone who has been hit by a bus??

[Broken Gnome]

Do folk genuinely think Hibs would drop prices to get thousands of more people into the stadium given what's just been announced? They'd be absolutely crucified for doing that and rightly so. Mental.

No, course they won't drop ticket prices and nor should they.

Post wasn't about that, more that those who do want to go tomorrow - with an extra incentive from the restrictions or otherwise - should be able to do so without the same old warnings as before and a mega-thread of stats, counter-stats and arguments. And vice versa, for those uncomfortable with it.

[Garymcl]

I’m in the can go (can afford it, fully vaccinated and boostered ,really want to support my team and new manager to all those who are the same please go and support the team and club who will really need the financial backing as no football for a while :flag:

[Jones28]

Has anyone ever seen someone who has been hit by a bus??

Yes actually. He was so drunk I don’t think he really noticed tbh.

[GreenCastle]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

Life isn’t all about Christmas Day for some.

You can have a negative lateral flow test on Xmas morning but still pass it onto others on the day if it’s not picked up or after Christmas.

It doesn’t make sense as elderly will be indoor with many people on Christmas Day.

Let fill make their own choices and stop being the Covid police.

[Hibs90]

I'd like to see all the clubs acting in unison here and calling the Scottish Government out for this continued nonsense.

Yes, because stopping people from catching a potentially life threatening illness is nonsense.

[Helensburghhibs]

Yes, because stopping people from catching a potentially life threatening illness is nonsense.

Bull****..... turn if your telly and form your own opinion

[Magpie]

Has anyone ever seen someone who has been hit by a bus??

I almost got hit by one a few years ago, probably my near death experience, the two women behind me couldn’t believe I didn’t get hit.

[Since452]

Tomorrow will probably be the lowest unrestricted crowd of the season for obvious reasons.

[ahibby]

Might get hit by a bus or the stadium might collapse too.

Get a grip.

Except that the probability of those things you mention actually happening is far less than the probability of catching covid and ruining your Christmas plans. Each to their own.

[hibbysam]

Except that the probability of those things you mention actually happening is far less than the probability of catching covid and ruining your Christmas plans. Each to their own.

Why would it ruin Christmas? Catch it tomorrow you wont know until after Christmas most likely.

[Hibs90]

Bull****..... turn if your telly and form your own opinion

I don’t watch TV but thanks for the shan advice.

[Irish_Steve]

Bull****..... turn if your telly and form your own opinion

Too many "experts" are forming their own opinion means this bloody thing will never go away

[bringbackbenny]

Bull****..... turn if your telly and form your own opinion

Hmmm, so where do you recommend to find out on factual, informed, peer reviewed science with a wee bit opinion/commentary during a worldwide pandemic? BBC? Sky? Somewhere else?

[ahibby]

Bull****..... turn if your telly and form your own opinion

Form one's opinion based on what though? You should have good and sound reasons for your beliefs, so what are the premises for believing whatever it is you are recommending.

[Chorley Hibee]

Yes, because stopping people from catching a potentially life threatening illness is nonsense.

Don't worry, I seemingly can't catch it before the 26th December so I'm alright at present.

[JXM73]

Has anyone ever seen someone who has been hit by a bus??

https://youtu.be/sTNlwBzgZQ8

[Kojock]

Has anyone ever seen someone who has been hit by a bus??

Yes. I’ve also seen folk that have been hit by car, a lorry and a train. Don’t know what your point is though ??

[Hibs90]

Don't worry, I seemingly can't catch it before the 26th December so I'm alright at present.

That’s not what anyone has said though is it?

The date given gives the businesses involved notice, which is fair.

[Ronniekirk]

No brainer hibs , reduce the prices , get the place rocking

If you feel safe to go then get to the game and support the team. Could be last time for a while


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I suspect it will be the opposite and a lot of older fans in particular will not go unfortunately
I went to the cup final against all the advice from every family member but won’t risk going tomorrow it’s not worth the hassel from family if I then tested positive


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[Rumble de Thump]

Bull****..... turn if your telly and form your own opinion

And where will we get our information from to base this opinion on?

[ahibby]

Why would it ruin Christmas? Catch it tomorrow you wont know until after Christmas most likely.

Most likely? I make 22nd plus three days max dormant the 25th but I would include the Christmas holidays in that. If people want to take the chance then that's up to them but they should be aware of the potential consequences, some will get away with it but for sure others won't. My wife has had covid twice in the past two years, despite living together I haven't had it at all, so far. As I said some will not catch it and some will.

[Irish_Steve]

Yes. I’ve also seen folk that have been hit by car, a lorry and a train. Don’t know what your point is though ??

There wasn't a point - someone further up the thread said you mightn't catch Covid but could be hit by a bus - I just wondered if anyone had seen someone hit by a bus

[Helensburghhibs]

Form one's opinion based on what though? You should have good and sound reasons for your beliefs, so what are the premises for believing whatever it is you are recommending.

Start with personal experiences and first hand accounts and build from there.

[Helensburghhibs]

And where will we get our information from to base this opinion on?

Why do you believe mainstream TV over an article on social media for instance ? They both have as much credibility as each other

[Kojock]

There wasn't a point - someone further up the thread said you mightn't catch Covid but could be hit by a bus - I just wondered if anyone had seen someone hit by a bus

The aftermath was too horrific to post it on here.

[mcohibs]

Why would it ruin Christmas? Catch it tomorrow you wont know until after Christmas most likely.

The key point being exactly that. You won't know whether you are carrying the virus or not and may be putting high risk family members at risk on Christmas day.

[Billy Whizz]

Game tomorrow should be postponed by the SPFL

[hibbysam]

Most likely? I make 22nd plus three days max dormant the 25th but I would include the Christmas holidays in that. If people want to take the chance then that's up to them but they should be aware of the potential consequences, some will get away with it but for sure others won't. My wife has had covid twice in the past two years, despite living together I haven't had it at all, so far. As I said some will not catch it and some will.

Again, why would it ruin your Christmas? My Christmas period is 100% ruined though regardless if I had covid or not. Boxing Day ****ed, birthday ****ed, Hogmanay/NYD ****ed, Derby ****ed. That’s ruined.

I’ve had it twice, I’ve had both jabs plus booster, I’ve got a passport and can wear a mask. But here we are, locked down again.

[Chorley Hibee]

That’s not what anyone has said though is it?

The date given gives the businesses involved notice, which is fair.

Of course, it's just a coincidence that they miss out Christmas.

There's absolutely nothing stopping them bringing in these rules immediately, just as they have done previously.

It's all pure theatre and once again football has been shafted.

Perfectly okay for everyone to congregate indoors with each other on the 25th, but you can't attend football due to the overwhelming concern for public health on the 26th.

As I said, absolutely laughable.

[hibee_girl]

Game tomorrow should be postponed by the SPFL

Why?

[loanheadhibby]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

Virtually no chance of catching it at game. Possibly travelling to/from game but not during the game (according to Jason Leitch).

[hibbysam]

The key point being exactly that. You won't know whether you are carrying the virus or not and may be putting high risk family members at risk on Christmas day.

Don’t go to the football and that exact scenario could still happen. Folk aren’t staying in their houses 24-7 just now.

[hibbysam]

Of course, it's just a coincidence that they miss out Christmas.

There's absolutely nothing stopping them bringing in these rules immediately, just as they have done previously.

It's all pure theatre and once again football has been shafted.

Perfectly okay for everyone to congregate indoors with each other on the 25th, but you can't attend football due to the overwhelming concern for public health on the 26th.

As I said, absolutely laughable.

And only limit your contact with others from the 27th, even though clubs get shafted a day previous 😂

[Irish_Steve]

Why do you believe mainstream TV over an article on social media for instance ? They both have as much credibility as each other

I would seriously doubt that, anyone can say virtually anything on social media without being called out, a bit more difficult to do that on TV.

[Hibs90]

Of course, it's just a coincidence that they miss out Christmas.

There's absolutely nothing stopping them bringing in these rules immediately, just as they have done previously.

It's all pure theatre and once again football has been shafted.

Perfectly okay for everyone to congregate indoors with each other on the 25th, but you can't attend football due to the overwhelming concern for public health on the 26th.

As I said, absolutely laughable.

And the alternative is? Keeping everything as is and just going herd immunity?

They are listening to the scientific advice. Scientists who over hundreds of years have done miraculous things to save hundreds of millions of lives.

[Rumble de Thump]

Why do you believe mainstream TV over an article on social media for instance ? They both have as much credibility as each other

News on TV is regulated. Absolutely anyone, even anonymous people, can post anything on social media. They can even pretend to be someone they're not or pretend to be working a genuine news site that is nothing of the sort.

[Kojock]

Virtually no chance of catching it at game. Possibly travelling to/from game but not during the game (according to Jason Leitch).

I caught it at the game against Dundee Utd at ER in October.

[GreenCastle]

Again, why would it ruin your Christmas? My Christmas period is 100% ruined though regardless if I had covid or not. Boxing Day ****ed, birthday ****ed, Hogmanay/NYD ****ed, Derby ****ed. That’s ruined.

I’ve had it twice, I’ve had both jabs plus booster, I’ve got a passport and can wear a mask. But here we are, locked down again.

Vaccinated folk suffering as the unvaccinated are taking up majority of hospital beds.

We have various testing - vaccines and boosters but that’s still not enough for some. We were told to get jabbed and the booster but that’s still not enough - folk losing trust in those in charge across the whole U.K.

Feel for you - it’s a ridiculous decision especially the timing .

[Chorley Hibee]

And the alternative is? Keeping everything as is and just going herd immunity?

They are listening to the scientific advice. Scientists who over hundreds of years have done miraculous things to save hundreds of millions of lives.

If these scientists believe the virus takes a day off for a religious festival, and that the virus is more deadly to football fans outside - than thousands inside shopping centres, pubs, restaurants, nightclubs, homes etc, then I'd be doubting their credentials.

[Irish_Steve]

I caught it at the game against Dundee Utd at ER in October.

How do you actually know that though - you can narrow it down to possibilities but you may have contracted it before you headed off for the game

[GreenCastle]

And the alternative is? Keeping everything as is and just going herd immunity?

They are listening to the scientific advice. Scientists who over hundreds of years have done miraculous things to save hundreds of millions of lives.

The scientific advice won’t be saying wait till 26th. The advice would have been to sort this sooner.

Like when the original Covid came about - everything was too slow to shut down like care homes / travel / Cheltenham races.

Choosing 26th is trying to keep folk onside when in fact most folk can see its nonsense.

[Logie Green]

Has anyone ever seen someone who has been hit by a bus??

Steve Fulton looked like he’d been hit by a bus.

[ahibby]

Vaccinated folk suffering as the unvaccinated are taking up majority of hospital beds.

We have various testing - vaccines and boosters but that’s still not enough for some. We were told to get jabbed and the booster but that’s still not enough - folk losing trust in those in charge across the whole U.K.

Feel for you - it’s a ridiculous decision especially the timing .

Maybe it is ridiculous but it's also precautionary. Just because some like me have been immune so far doesn't mean to say that will continue to be the case. Also from those who do catch it and many thousands will despite the restrictions how many will have to stay of work anyway and how many more would without restrictions. It's not just about us as individuals though, surely we have to look at what is the best of a bad choices, meaning there is no perfect way ahead, in the short term.

[Billy Whizz]

Why?

Because the virus is rampant, as it will be on Boxing Day

[Hibs90]

If these scientists believe the virus takes a day off for a religious festival, and that the virus is more deadly to football fans outside - than thousands inside shopping centres, pubs, restaurants, nightclubs, homes etc, then I'd be doubting their credentials.

It’s not the outdoor nature. It’s the congregating before and after the game, transport rammed, pubs rammed, concourses rammed, it’s not the actual game itself and sitting in your seat.

[Kojock]

How do you actually know that though - you can narrow it down to possibilities but you may have contracted it before you headed off for the game

I was notified I was in contact with someone who had tested positive then was laid low with it. Absolutely no doubt in my mind where I caught it.

[ahibby]

The scientific advice won’t be saying wait till 26th. The advice would have been to sort this sooner.

Like when the original Covid came about - everything was too slow to shut down like care homes / travel / Cheltenham races.

Choosing 26th is trying to keep folk onside when in fact most folk can see its nonsense.

You must be right, so the 26th is to lessen the blow but we've also heard that some peoples mental health, where it's fragile would be worsened if Christmas and the lead up was restricted too. Mental health is also a factor then.

[Helensburghhibs]

I would seriously doubt that, anyone can say virtually anything on social media without being called out, a bit more difficult to do that on TV.

The BBC have proven time and time again to tell lies and be selective on what they report on 😄 🤣 they have seemingly credibility on some out of date blind loyalty

[RoYO!]

Too many "experts" are forming their own opinion means this bloody thing will never go away

Absolutely and one of the key reasons that the decision is actually removed by the Gov. If we can't rely on you to take this seriously, we will remove the option.

[Helensburghhibs]

Absolutely and one of the key reasons that the decision is actually removed by the Gov. If we can't rely on you to take this seriously, we will remove the option.

And the more stupid, unreasonable and unexplainable decisions they make , the more of us will make our own decisions. I know who will win out in the end

[erin go bragh]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

You could also not go but catch Covid at the supermarket . Why the need to post on this if your not going anyway.

[Irish_Steve]

And the more stupid, unreasonable and unexplainable decisions they make , the more of us will make our own decisions. I know who will win out in the end

Yes, the Govt unless you are planning a revolution

[Hibbyradge]

Or you might catch covid, not even notice and carry on with Christmas knowing the risk you took to prioritise football, as was your perogative as an adult.

And pass it on to someone who passes it to someone who is vulnerable. That is not your perogative as a human being.

[Chorley Hibee]

It’s not the outdoor nature. It’s the congregating before and after the game, transport rammed, pubs rammed, concourses rammed, it’s not the actual game itself and sitting in your seat.

So what significant change in the situation has occurred that results in 2 x 50,000 attendances last weekend to none this weekend?

It certainly isn't the data from the daily figures released.

If anything I'd suggest we're in a better place a week on from last due to the amount of boosters administered in that time.

I don't believe going to the football causes much, if any, further issues than attending the shops, cinema, theatre, pub, restaurant does.

If you're restricting one on the basis of public health, then you should be restricting all of them.

[Hibbyradge]

Bull****..... turn if your telly and form your own opinion

How does one form an opinion without listening to what people say?

[Helensburghhibs]

And pass it on to someone who passes it to someone who is vulnerable. That is not your perogative as a human being.

So where does it stop? If I'm going to see a valuable person I take it is my responsibility to take the precautions. Not someone I may have shared a metre with 5 days before .

[hhibs]

That’s not what anyone has said though is it?

The date given gives the businesses involved notice, which is fair.


For goodness sake don't confuse everyone with well rounded,well thought notions or common sense,it's a waste of effort on the some on here who are the hard of thinking.

[PathheadHibby]

Its all about opinions but for me its an opportunity to not only support the team, support Maloney showing the scale of our great club and the atmosphere that can be generated at ER but by having a full house to show how silly these rules are all getting.......I'll be there and know of 3 others who would not usually go who are now attending.......GGTTH

[Helensburghhibs]

Yes, the Govt unless you are planning a revolution

They won't though will they? They will convince themselves people are complying but either way at some point.. I'd bet this year this is all going to fritter away regardless of what "measures" are taken or follow

[Hibs90]

So what significant change in the situation has occurred that results in 2 x 50,000 attendances last weekend to none this weekend?

It certainly isn't the data from the daily figures released.

If anything I'd suggest we're in a better place a week on from last due to the amount of boosters administered in that time.

I don't believe going to the football causes much, if any, further issues than attending the shops, cinema, theatre, pub, restaurant does.

If you're restricting one on the basis of public health, then you should be restricting all of them.

I suspect we are yet to see the effects of 50k congregating yet. It is only Tuesday. Cases will rise in the coming days I imagine.

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said there. But put yourself in the shoes of someone tasked to take these decisions or not? What would you do? Having to balance the economy and business, public health etc?

[GreenCastle]

You must be right, so the 26th is to lessen the blow but we've also heard that some peoples mental health, where it's fragile would be worsened if Christmas and the lead up was restricted too. Mental health is also a factor then.

Lessen the blow ?

I think the longer this goes on that will affect mental health longer for everyone including children.

Why not sort it out now rather than keep waiting and allowing spreading at events like Christmas.

Some folk don’t even celebrate Christmas but have to wait till 26th.

Reality is Christmas happens - virus spreads more and we take another step backwards.

Instead if they are that worried - restrictions straight away - increase vaccination rate - make those who end up in hospital who are unvaccinated pay for the NHS time and resources and then let the rest of us get on with life.

[mcohibs]

Don’t go to the football and that exact scenario could still happen. Folk aren’t staying in their houses 24-7 just now.

But go to the football with thousands of others and the chance of you catching it is greatly increased than if you stayed at home. It's incredibly simple to understand why we will have a low crowd tomorrow in the lead up to Christmas.

[pacoluna]

Or you might catch covid, not even notice and carry on with Christmas knowing the risk you took to prioritise football, as was your perogative as an adult.

Trying to guilt-trip support for wanting to go a match must be bordering on the worst kinds of posts ever seen on this forum

[mcohibs]

Trying to guilt-trip support for wanting to go a match mist be bordering on the worst kinds of posts ever seen on this forum

It's not guilt tripping. It's just pointing out the unbelievably simple reason why crowds will be low this week, when people are coming up with arguments like 'aye but if you went to the shop you could catch it anaw'

[greenlex]

Of course, it's just a coincidence that they miss out Christmas.

There's absolutely nothing stopping them bringing in these rules immediately, just as they have done previously.

It's all pure theatre and once again football has been shafted.

Perfectly okay for everyone to congregate indoors with each other on the 25th, but you can't attend football due to the overwhelming concern for public health on the 26th.

As I said, absolutely laughable.
They did it once immediately. Right at the very start of covid 19. There was a grace period at other times. FWIW the governments should be doing it immediately (arguably about three weeks late) and make money available to businesses affected. We are always too late.

[Helensburghhibs]

Trying to guilt-trip support for wanting to go a match must be bordering on the worst kinds of posts ever seen on this forum

You have read that wrong mate..... I'm advocating making that choice not disagreeing with it. I hold going to games in a higher regard than a day celebrating a religious event I don't belive in

[May21/05/216]

why cant i go the games when I've been fully vaccinated as well as my booster can someone explain I've more chance catching the virus when i travel to my work on public transport and to best of my knowledge public transport has no restrictions

[pacoluna]

It's not guilt tripping. It's just pointing out the unbelievably simple reason why crowds will be low this week, when people are coming up with arguments like 'aye but if you went to the shop you could catch it anaw'

So we make our own choices, instead of being mollycoddled. We know the risks.

[greenlex]

So what significant change in the situation has occurred that results in 2 x 50,000 attendances last weekend to none this weekend?

It certainly isn't the data from the daily figures released.

If anything I'd suggest we're in a better place a week on from last due to the amount of boosters administered in that time.

I don't believe going to the football causes much, if any, further issues than attending the shops, cinema, theatre, pub, restaurant does.

If you're restricting one on the basis of public health, then you should be restricting all of them.
Decisions are being made on a lot more Data and projections than just hospitalisations.

[pacoluna]

why cant i go and the the rest that have been fully vaccinated as well as my booster can someone explain ive more chance catching the virus when i travel to my work on public transport and to best of my knowledge public transport has no restrivtions

Whats the point in the cvid passport

[greenlex]

Whats the point in the cvid passport
The fact they are not scanned and properly checked and acted on then it’s to drive up the vaccination rates and numbers.

[AliboyFC]

Its all about opinions but for me its an opportunity to not only support the team, support Maloney showing the scale of our great club and the atmosphere that can be generated at ER but by having a full house to show how silly these rules are all getting.......I'll be there and know of 3 others who would not usually go who are now attending.......GGTTH

Still loads of empty seats on the dot count.

[Waxy]

Everything was meant to be ok once we all had been jabbed.

[Chorley Hibee]

I suspect we are yet to see the effects of 50k congregating yet. It is only a Tuesday. Cases will rise in the coming days.

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said there. But put yourself in the shoes of someone tasked to take these decisions or not? What would you do? Having to balance the economy and business, public health etc?

I'd hope I would treat a public health emergency more seriously than our governments have done.

I wouldn't slap arbitrary rules on certain industries whilst ignoring others, and I wouldn't use it as a political football in order to further other agendas.

I most certainly wouldn't be under the illusion that a virus takes certain days of the year off.

I also couldn't help but notice Sturgeon, once again, peddled the myth that there is no evidence to suggest Omicron is any less dangerous than Delta.

Someone better make the countless scientists in South Africa and elsewhere aware their findings are being rubbished.

[ahibby]

You could also not go but catch Covid at the supermarket . Why the need to post on this if your not going anyway.

If concerned about that you can always get a home delivery rather than go to the supermarket.

[Helensburghhibs]

I'd hope I would treat a public health emergency more seriously than our governments have done.

I wouldn't slap arbitrary rules on certain industries whilst ignoring others, and I wouldn't use it as a political football in order to further other agendas.

I most certainly wouldn't be under the illusion that a virus takes certain days of the year off.

I also couldn't help but notice Sturgeon, once again, peddled the myth that there is no evidence to suggest Omicron is any less dangerous than Delta.

Someone better let the countless scientists in South Africa and elsewhere aware their findings are being rubbished.

The only scientists that seem to get listened to are the ones that our governments employ

[ahibby]

Lessen the blow ?

I think the longer this goes on that will affect mental health longer for everyone including children.

Why not sort it out now rather than keep waiting and allowing spreading at events like Christmas.

Some folk don’t even celebrate Christmas but have to wait till 26th.

Reality is Christmas happens - virus spreads more and we take another step backwards.

Instead if they are that worried - restrictions straight away - increase vaccination rate - make those who end up in hospital who are unvaccinated pay for the NHS time and resources and then let the rest of us get on with life.

Lessen the blow yes, it's bad enough that restrictions are coming in on the 26th and 27th going by all the complaints I've read on here, imagine if it had been brought into effect tomorrow. Surely the blow to those demanding their right to choice would be even worse, or perhaps not. I am actually now on the side of 'passports should have been sufficient' but I understand the premise of reducing probability even if it's not effective until the 26th. I am disappointed but willing to give those making the decisions the benefit of the doubt.

[mcohibs]

Everything was meant to be ok once we all had been jabbed.

We're not all jabbed which is part of the problem, a lot of people dragging their feet and dragging everyone else down with them.

[Irish_Steve]

The only scientists that seem to get listened to are the ones that our governments employ

I've listened to many a scientist not employed by the government and funnily enough, they appear to be all saying roughly the same thing

[Helensburghhibs]

I've listened to many a scientist not employed by the government and funnily enough, they appear to be all saying roughly the same thing

Have you read much on the scientific info coming out of South Africa? Why are our scientists not trusting that info?

[Hibs90]

I'd hope I would treat a public health emergency more seriously than our governments have done.

I wouldn't slap arbitrary rules on certain industries whilst ignoring others, and I wouldn't use it as a political football in order to further other agendas.

I most certainly wouldn't be under the illusion that a virus takes certain days of the year off.

I also couldn't help but notice Sturgeon, once again, peddled the myth that there is no evidence to suggest Omicron is any less dangerous than Delta.

Someone better make the countless scientists in South Africa and elsewhere aware their findings are being rubbished.

I think the Scottish Government have taken this as seriously as they can, hence why we do have restrictions. Same can't be said of UK government though.

It's not being used as a political football, I don't think any politician would effectively commit career suicide to do that. Unless you're Boris of course.

Nobody is rubbishing any findings.

[Hibbyradge]

The only scientists that seem to get listened to are the ones that our governments employ

Keeping asking for scientific advice until you get the answers you want is the sort of thing Trump did.

[Yorkshire HFC]

I suspect it will be the opposite and a lot of older fans in particular will not go unfortunately
I went to the cup final against all the advice from every family member but won’t risk going tomorrow it’s not worth the hassel from family if I then tested positive


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There is no chance that I would even consider going tomorrow - I don't see why I would risk it - there's a big potential downside and little upside. But everyone can make their own decision.

[Helensburghhibs]

Keeping asking for scientific advice until you get the answers you want is the sort of thing Trump did.

I just think we should use the experienced scientists in countries who are ahead of us in terms of experience with thus variant

[PolmontHibby]

Have you read much on the scientific info coming out of South Africa? Why are our scientists not trusting that info?

UK already has the first research info showing no reduction in hospitalisations delta versus omicron.
Whether less deaths or even if initial study will be the norm who knows.

[flash]

There is no chance that I would even consider going tomorrow - I don't see why I would risk it - there's a big potential downside and little upside. But everyone can make their own decision.

Looking forward to it personally.

[Helensburghhibs]

UK already has the first research info showing no reduction in hospitalisations delta versus omicron.
Whether less deaths or even if initial study will be the norm who knows.

South Africa would have an idea?

[Steven79]

It’s not the outdoor nature. It’s the congregating before and after the game, transport rammed, pubs rammed, concourses rammed, it’s not the actual game itself and sitting in your seat.

So a bit like Christmas then? Why hasn't that been cancelled!

[Hibs90]

So a bit like Christmas then? Why hasn't that been cancelled!

You try balancing the weight of public health and the economy.

[Yorkshire HFC]

Looking forward to it personally.

Hope it's a good game and Hibs get the 3 points.

[Steven79]

You try balancing the weight of public health and the economy.

The economy is ****ed thanks to covid and brexit.

[H18 SFR]

100% going despite getting the ferry at half past 3 (am) the next day.

She can ram her booster now. Sideways preferably.

[Hibs90]

The economy is ****ed thanks to covid and brexit.

and the Tories.

Like I said earlier, you can't please everyone in this case. Trying to balance it all to come to a decision must be mentally toiling and I actually feel a bit sorry for those making these tough decisions apart from the clowns down south.

[PolmontHibby]

South Africa would have an idea?

They would but mixed messages- deaths are rising and just reported show a big jump to 105 but infections now falling.
I have no idea what it means and just glad I dont have to make a call on what to do.

[Steven79]

and the Tories.

Like I said earlier, you can't please everyone in this case. Trying to balance it all to come to a decision must be mentally toiling and I actually feel a bit sorry for those making these tough decisions apart from the clowns down south.

I blame those that voted no in 2014 along with Tory/Brexit voters in England for the mess Scotland finds itself it.

The sooner we leave Westminster behind the better...

[hibbysam]

We're not all jabbed which is part of the problem, a lot of people dragging their feet and dragging everyone else down with them.

It was never about everyone getting jabbed, it was the most vulnerable getting jabbed, then it became majority, now it needs every single person to be triple jabbed. It’s never going to end if that’s the case. The fact it’s the unjabbed becoming ill tells us we should be let loose and if they want to chance it then let them.

[Hibs90]

I blame those that voted no in 2014 along with Tory/Brexit voters in England for the mess Scotland finds itself it.

The sooner we leave Westminster behind the better...


Well that's one thing we can agree on. :agree:

[Northernhibee]

and the Tories.

Like I said earlier, you can't please everyone in this case. Trying to balance it all to come to a decision must be mentally toiling and I actually feel a bit sorry for those making these tough decisions apart from the clowns down south.

Do you know something? Much as I disagree with large chunks of it at least the Scottish Government, at least they've made a decision.

**** knows what they're doing down south but it's ****ing over the rest of us too.

[Steven79]

Well that's one thing we can agree on. :agree:

Sorry I'm feeling pissed off in general at the minute.

Feels like I'm watching my job and jobs of friends slowly vanish due to all of this and it's really frustrating.

[SlickShoes]

It was never about everyone getting jabbed, it was the most vulnerable getting jabbed, then it became majority, now it needs every single person to be triple jabbed. It’s never going to end if that’s the case. The fact it’s the unjabbed becoming ill tells us we should be let loose and if they want to chance it then let them.

I don’t think you’ll ever grasp that if you just let them have it, it’s seriously unethical. It would overwhelm the hospital and in turn affect everyone else as well, since the vaccine does not provide full immunity the more people you expose the more will die and end up in hospital and maybe that will be a tiny percentage of like 0.5 but it’s still someone’s mum or dad or brother or sister and it’s still thousands and thousands of people.

It’s great you’ve had it and recovered but others aren’t that lucky.

[Hibs90]

Sorry I'm feeling pissed off in general at the minute.

Feels like I'm watching my job and jobs of friends slowly vanish due to all of this and it's really frustrating.

I can only sympathise but hope it works out for you all :aok:

[Yorkshire HFC]

Sorry I'm feeling pissed off in general at the minute.

Feels like I'm watching my job and jobs of friends slowly vanish due to all of this and it's really frustrating.

That's understandable - hope it works out for you, and for everyone else. Tough times for sure.

[hibbysam]

I don’t think you’ll ever grasp that if you just let them have it, it’s seriously unethical. It would overwhelm the hospital and in turn affect everyone else as well, since the vaccine does not provide full immunity the more people you expose the more will die and end up in hospital and maybe that will be a tiny percentage of like 0.5 but it’s still someone’s mum or dad or brother or sister and it’s still thousands and thousands of people.

It’s great you’ve had it and recovered but others aren’t that lucky.

Others aren’t lucky enough to recover from the flu but we still live with that. This will be with us forever just like the flu, if we brick it every time a new variant appears we’d be as well not leaving the house. Survival rate is huge already, increased by jabs, increased even more with boosters. Lives will be lost regardless, it’s ****, of course it is. But no decision is going to save every single life.

[Billy Whizz]

Sorry I'm feeling pissed off in general at the minute.

Feels like I'm watching my job and jobs of friends slowly vanish due to all of this and it's really frustrating.

Think we all are

[SlickShoes]

Others aren’t lucky enough to recover from the flu but we still live with that. This will be with us forever just like the flu, if we brick it every time a new variant appears we’d be as well not leaving the house. Survival rate is huge already, increased by jabs, increased even more with boosters. Lives will be lost regardless, it’s ****, of course it is. But no decision is going to save every single life.

It’s not the same as the flu though, if you can’t realise that by now I won’t continue posting it’s a lost cause.

[A Hi-Bee]

So a bit like Christmas then? Why hasn't that been cancelled!

Santa, would never allow Christmas to be cancelled, he is way more powerful and more respected than any governments.
Santa Rules
:greengrin

[tamig]

They did it once immediately. Right at the very start of covid 19. There was a grace period at other times. FWIW the governments should be doing it immediately (arguably about three weeks late) and make money available to businesses affected. We are always too late.

They even delayed the first lockdown too long sadly. Remember Cheltenham, Champs League etc. My work ordered us to work from home a week before the official announcement of the first lockdown.

[hibbysam]

It’s not the same as the flu though, if you can’t realise that by now I won’t continue posting it’s a lost cause.

People die from the flu, thousands in fact. It’s exactly the point that was made. Due to this we should lock down. Otherwise why is a covid death more important than a flu death?

[The dalmeny]

So what significant change in the situation has occurred that results in 2 x 50,000 attendances last weekend to none this weekend?

It certainly isn't the data from the daily figures released.

If anything I'd suggest we're in a better place a week on from last due to the amount of boosters administered in that time.

I don't believe going to the football causes much, if any, further issues than attending the shops, cinema, theatre, pub, restaurant does.

If you're restricting one on the basis of public health, then you should be restricting all of them.


Very little stuff from the weekend will reflect in data today, so many holes in your posts its like Rab C's vest

[Billy Whizz]

St Mirren asking for tomorrow’s night game v Celtic, being called off due to the number of Covid issues they have
They want their next 2 games postponed

The league can’t really turn them down

https://www.stmirren.com/club-news/4218-we-have-requested-postponements-of-matches-against-celtic-and-rangers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59748682

[Billy Whizz]

From a Red top

Stephen Glass was perplexed at the restrictions coming in from Boxing Day and admitted to not seeing the sense in not starting them now, if they are important.

He said: "Why would you say this rule is really important in four days, three days time, but not tomorrow night?

"I don't see the reasoning at all, and I don't see the sense in it."

When asked if he'd like to see the January winter break brought forward, to attempt to avoid playing games during the restrictions Glass said:

"You are at a club like Aberdeen and clearly the biggest impact is going to be the Dundee game on Boxing Day and the Rangers game on the 29th.

"There's no doubt we'd rather play that in front of the people who have come home for Christmas to watch us.

"I think the club provide a safe environment, but we don't make those decisions.

"If it was played in front of very limited crowds, of course I would rather not play and play in front of a big crowd."

[greenlex]

They even delayed the first lockdown too long sadly. Remember Cheltenham, Champs League etc. My work ordered us to work from home a week before the official announcement of the first lockdown.
:agree: Too late. When it came the restrictions were immediate. Made quite the impact on people and eventually the virus.

[GreenCastle]

:agree: Too late. When it came the restrictions were immediate. Made quite the impact.

They definitely didn’t make quick travel restrictions with flights etc.

[Chorley Hibee]

Very little stuff from the weekend will reflect in data today, so many holes in your posts its like Rab C's vest

If only I was as learned as yourself.

I can't wait to hear your insight into why football is fine tomorrow but deadly on Sunday, or how football is this vector of infection (despite no data to back this assumption up) as well.

Don't waste your time, as you'll not convince me any of it is based upon scientific advice.

[DIXIHIBS]

100% going despite getting the ferry at half past 3 (am) the next day.

She can ram her booster now. Sideways preferably.

'Her booster'. Heard it all now. I thought scientists from around the world created vaccines/boosters but it was nicola sturgeon all along. Who would have thought....

[Hibbyradge]

'Her booster'. Heard it all now. I thought scientists from around the world created vaccines/boosters but it was nicola sturgeon all along. Who would have thought....

Women, you see. Multitaskers.

[Hibbyradge]

100% going despite getting the ferry at half past 3 (am) the next day.

She can ram her booster now. Sideways preferably.

Awesome logic.

[WestCoastHibby]

I wouldn’t have been going to the game as I’ve tested positive on Saturday missing the final as a result.
I don’t see how Hibs can justify the price set for the Aberdeen game though.

[Keith_M]

I'm now triple jabbed and I took a lateral flow test this morning, which was negative.

So I'll be going to the game, wearing a mask on public transport and when not in my seat (as per usual)

I'll then take another test on Friday. In the highly unlikely* event that it turns out positive, I'll give visiting the family a miss.



* based on the 0 positive results from 15 tests so far, I think it's a reasonably good gamble.

[where'stheslope]

From a Red top

Stephen Glass was perplexed at the restrictions coming in from Boxing Day and admitted to not seeing the sense in not starting them now, if they are important.

He said: "Why would you say this rule is really important in four days, three days time, but not tomorrow night?

"I don't see the reasoning at all, and I don't see the sense in it."

When asked if he'd like to see the January winter break brought forward, to attempt to avoid playing games during the restrictions Glass said:

"You are at a club like Aberdeen and clearly the biggest impact is going to be the Dundee game on Boxing Day and the Rangers game on the 29th.

"There's no doubt we'd rather play that in front of the people who have come home for Christmas to watch us.

"I think the club provide a safe environment, but we don't make those decisions.

"If it was played in front of very limited crowds, of course I would rather not play and play in front of a big crowd."
Is this not the same team that limited their home fans to under 9,500 so as not to check for covid???
Think he just making it up as he is going along!!!

[Potty78]

I'm now triple jabbed and I took a lateral flow test this morning, which was negative.

So I'll be going to the game, wearing a mask on public transport and when not in my seat (as per usual)

I'll then take another test on Friday. In the highly unlikely* event that it turns out positive, I'll give visiting the family a miss.



* based on the 0 positive results from 15 tests so far, I think it's a reasonably good gamble.

Simple things👍 if u want to go then go, If not dont. 19,000 risked xmas for a cup final so hopefully a good few will do the same tomoz. If not then its personal choice

[Ronniekirk]

It was never about everyone getting jabbed, it was the most vulnerable getting jabbed, then it became majority, now it needs every single person to be triple jabbed. It’s never going to end if that’s the case. The fact it’s the unjabbed becoming ill tells us we should be let loose and if they want to chance it then let them.

The only people I know with tbe virus have been double vaccinated or also had the booster Anyone I know who isn’t jabbed maintains they have. been fine through this whole process But clearly hospitals tell us a different story


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[Ronniekirk]

St Mirren asking for tomorrow’s night game v Celtic, being called off due to the number of Covid issues they have
They want their next 2 games postponed

The league can’t really turn them down

https://www.stmirren.com/club-news/4218-we-have-requested-postponements-of-matches-against-celtic-and-rangers

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59748682

Be interesting to see if Celtic are supportive


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[Ronniekirk]

They definitely didn’t make quick travel restrictions with flights etc.

But as soon as they were clear it was spreading more all the countries on the red list came off the list this time
I assume they felt the horse had bolted and Community transmission was with us , so no point keeping countries on the red list


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[Iggy Pope]

Be interesting to see if Celtic are supportive


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They might’ve been but it doesn’t appear that the SPFL have been....

https://twitter.com/clydessb/status/1473364659994603522?s=12

[Ronniekirk]

They might’ve been but it doesn’t appear that the SPFL have been....

https://twitter.com/clydessb/status/1473364659994603522?s=12

Seems strange given current situation
Maybe more players will test positive tomorrow and they will try again


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[hibbysam]

They might’ve been but it doesn’t appear that the SPFL have been....

https://twitter.com/clydessb/status/1473364659994603522?s=12

Seems mental. What was the rule 13 outfield players?

[Iggy Pope]

Seems mental. What was the rule 13 outfield players?

That’s what the EPL are quoting not sure how the SPFL work it out. They probably don’t know either.

[Iggy Pope]

Seems strange given current situation
Maybe more players will test positive tomorrow and they will try again


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St Mirren fans jokingly mobilising with buckets of water to flood the pitch.

[hibbysam]

That’s what the EPL are quoting not sure how the SPFL work it out. They probably don’t know either.

Just read 13 players, including 1 keeper and 10 over 18.

[FilipinoHibs]

Crucified by who? The folk who are allowing it for another 4 days just so they can have a Christmas? What about those of us who don’t really care for Xmas and would rather have a big Boxing Day and Hogmanay?

Boxing Day? Are you still in service?

[FilipinoHibs]

I'm now triple jabbed and I took a lateral flow test this morning, which was negative.

So I'll be going to the game, wearing a mask on public transport and when not in my seat (as per usual)

I'll then take another test on Friday. In the highly unlikely* event that it turns out positive, I'll give visiting the family a miss.



* based on the 0 positive results from 15 tests so far, I think it's a reasonably good gamble.

You are an immune colusus!

[RossScott1991]

You might also go, catch Covid, miss Christmas and ruin all the family plans.

That’s the spirit. Live your life in total fear.

[MWHIBBIES]

That’s the spirit. Live your life in total fear.

Folk can live their life however the hell they want.

[matty_f]

Has anyone ever seen someone who has been hit by a bus??

I have, true story - was coming home from high school and a girl ran in front of a big yellow double decker on Milton Road. She was hurt but ok.

[allezsauzee]

They even delayed the first lockdown too long sadly. Remember Cheltenham, Champs League etc. My work ordered us to work from home a week before the official announcement of the first lockdown.


I don't really get why people are fixated on Cheltenham and the Champions league being the super spreader events. 70k at Cheltenham with a lot of people outside n the open air for a lot of the time meanwhile there are millions of people jammed together on the London underground and other public transport that apparently had nothing to do with it.

[pacoluna]

Folk can live their life however the hell they want.

No we can't, hence why we can't go to the Derby.

[tamig]

I don't really get why people are fixated on Cheltenham and the Champions league being the super spreader events. 70k at Cheltenham with a lot of people outside n the open air for a lot of the time meanwhile there are millions of people jammed together on the London underground and other public transport that apparently had nothing to do with it.

There were also thousands of folk milling around in the bars over the course of those few days. Evidence was beginning to emerge in the period before those events that large gatherings weren’t the best way to try and contain the spread. Johnson and co decided to delay acting on that. Delaying the work from home message was scandalous.

[chrisski33]

I blame those that voted no in 2014 along with Tory/Brexit voters in England for the mess Scotland finds itself it.

The sooner we leave Westminster behind the better...

Can't wait to see who you blame when we get independence! Current Scottish government are partly to blame too. Wouldnt have been able to afford furlough if independent...

[BegbieHSC]

A thread on folk buying tickets for the game tomorrow has seriously descended into whether an independent Scotland could afford furlough? Seriously? Threads are all over the place on here today. Some folk really need to go and take out their frustrations on the Holy Ground, or on Twitter, or in a diary, or shout at a cloud while going a walk down Porty beach. Keep relevant, please!

[shetlandhibee]

A thread on folk buying tickets for the game tomorrow has seriously descended into whether an independent Scotland could afford furlough? Seriously? Threads are all over the place on here today. Some folk really need to go and take out their frustrations on the Holy Ground, or on Twitter, or in a diary, or shout at a cloud while going a walk down Porty beach. Keep relevant, please!
:top marks:faf:

[Steven79]

Can't wait to see who you blame when we get independence! Current Scottish government are partly to blame too. Wouldnt have been able to afford furlough if independent...So Scotland would be the only nation on the planet that couldn't afford to do it...

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[FilipinoHibs]

So Scotland would be the only nation on the planet that couldn't afford to do it...

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They would have to raise taxes and borrow heavily at first but a well set out plan would give confidence to lenders:

https://www.scottishleftreview.scot/could-scotland-become-the-new-norway/

[marinello59]

Take the politics to the Holy Ground or we close the thread .

[andyf5]

Have you read much on the scientific info coming out of South Africa? Why are our scientists not trusting that info?

Deaths are doubling every week in South Africa and they are 3 weeks ahead of us in terms of infection rates.Still much lower death rates than last wave but when will the doubling of deaths stop? https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/

[FilipinoHibs]

Deaths are doubling every week in South Africa and they are 3 weeks ahead of us in terms of infection rates.Still much lower death rates than last wave but when will the doubling of deaths stop? https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/

I think an other thing about South Africa is they have a much younger demographic so more likely to survive an infection. Also much lower vaccination rates which will lead to a greater number of infections. That is why it is not an apples for apples comparison and we must wait for more UK data before drawing any conclusions. But not sensible to do nothing as the UK government is waiting to see how bad it will be.

[Greenbeard]

Might get hit by a bus or the stadium might collapse too.

Get a grip.
It's widespread totally selfish attitudes like this that are causing the upsurge in cases, the threat to NHS services and consequential knock-on effect on other treatments (with life threatening consequences for some), thousands of folk having to self-isolate from work (again hitting service provision), the re-imposition of severe restrictions and the impact this will have on the hospitality and events business etc etc.
I am fed up with folk ignoring common sense and not caring a jot about others when going about their daily lives.
To call for ER to be full to the gunnels tonight (with no masks in seats) when we already know that a few days later, for everyone's safety, no more than 500 will be permitted at such events is hugely irresponsible.

[Coco Bryce]

Thankfully Omicron doesn't work a Wednesday night :greengrin

Mon the Hibees!!

[Golden Bear]

:top marks:faf:

:top marks

Politics are increasingly turning me off Hibs Net , a variety of posters seem determined to introduce the subject at every opportunity. Some posters are "subtle" while others wade straight in.

Leave it out please.

[Coco Bryce]

A thread on folk buying tickets for the game tomorrow has seriously descended into whether an independent Scotland could afford furlough? Seriously? Threads are all over the place on here today. Some folk really need to go and take out their frustrations on the Holy Ground, or on Twitter, or in a diary, or shout at a cloud while going a walk down Porty beach. Keep relevant, please!

:top marks

Aye. Some right self righteous know it alls on here now.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Be interesting to see if Celtic are supportive


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Wanna bet?

[Greenside]

And where will we get our information from to base this opinion on?
Hibs.net of course.😁

[hibbyfraelibby]

Can't wait to see who you blame when we get independence! Current Scottish government are partly to blame too. Wouldnt have been able to afford furlough if independent...

Behave. The UK government couldn't afford furlough hence why they borrowed the money. Nowt to do with indy.

[AugustaHibs]

It's widespread totally selfish attitudes like this that are causing the upsurge in cases, the threat to NHS services and consequential knock-on effect on other treatments (with life threatening consequences for some), thousands of folk having to self-isolate from work (again hitting service provision), the re-imposition of severe restrictions and the impact this will have on the hospitality and events business etc etc.
I am fed up with folk ignoring common sense and not caring a jot about others when going about their daily lives.
To call for ER to be full to the gunnels tonight (with no masks in seats) when we already know that a few days later, for everyone's safety, no more than 500 will be permitted at such events is hugely irresponsible.


Oh well.

Sorry you feel that way.

Hope ER is rocking tonight.

[hibbyfraelibby]

Thinking about ramming the stadium for the game?
Thinking of going on a packed bus via a stowed out pub?
Thinking you are immune from catching Covid?

Remember Omicron is an anagram of MORONIC

[Since90+2]

It's widespread totally selfish attitudes like this that are causing the upsurge in cases, the threat to NHS services and consequential knock-on effect on other treatments (with life threatening consequences for some), thousands of folk having to self-isolate from work (again hitting service provision), the re-imposition of severe restrictions and the impact this will have on the hospitality and events business etc etc.
I am fed up with folk ignoring common sense and not caring a jot about others when going about their daily lives.
To call for ER to be full to the gunnels tonight (with no masks in seats) when we already know that a few days later, for everyone's safety, no more than 500 will be permitted at such events is hugely irresponsible.

What a self righteous post this is. People are permitted to go to the match tonight, there are no restrictions on folk attending.

You clearly won't be there, that's absolutely fine, but please save the preaching for somewhere else.

[Heisenberg]

It's widespread totally selfish attitudes like this that are causing the upsurge in cases, the threat to NHS services and consequential knock-on effect on other treatments (with life threatening consequences for some), thousands of folk having to self-isolate from work (again hitting service provision), the re-imposition of severe restrictions and the impact this will have on the hospitality and events business etc etc.
I am fed up with folk ignoring common sense and not caring a jot about others when going about their daily lives.
To call for ER to be full to the gunnels tonight (with no masks in seats) when we already know that a few days later, for everyone's safety, no more than 500 will be permitted at such events is hugely irresponsible.

Common sense would’ve been for restrictions to come into place immediately. Instead the whole thing is just made to look a bit daft.

[Ronniekirk]

It's widespread totally selfish attitudes like this that are causing the upsurge in cases, the threat to NHS services and consequential knock-on effect on other treatments (with life threatening consequences for some), thousands of folk having to self-isolate from work (again hitting service provision), the re-imposition of severe restrictions and the impact this will have on the hospitality and events business etc etc.
I am fed up with folk ignoring common sense and not caring a jot about others when going about their daily lives.
To call for ER to be full to the gunnels tonight (with no masks in seats) when we already know that a few days later, for everyone's safety, no more than 500 will be permitted at such events is hugely irresponsible.

Realistically it’s going to be no where near full though as people make Their own choices I went to the Cup Final If I had listened to every one in my family I wouldn’t of gone But I was selfish to an extent but also took all the precautions I could and with no conclusive medical info that this variant is any more harmful ,and a lot of info saying it’s milder i opted to go
Result apart am glad I did Went to busy pub walked up to the ground with block seven but kept mask on gelled hands kept as much distance from people as I needed to
And so far have tested negative
I actually would of gone tonight but I compromised with family this time
I think more and more people want to live as normal a life as possible and I also think people want to see clear evidence that tighter restrictions are necessary
Not just speculation and models based on worst case scenarios and fear Mongering
If this new variant turns out to
Be milder with less hospitalisations and smaller numbers of deaths ( and I hope that is the case ) ,then the next time they trot out the same warnings less and less people will comply I think




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[He's here!]

It's widespread totally selfish attitudes like this that are causing the upsurge in cases, the threat to NHS services and consequential knock-on effect on other treatments (with life threatening consequences for some), thousands of folk having to self-isolate from work (again hitting service provision), the re-imposition of severe restrictions and the impact this will have on the hospitality and events business etc etc.
I am fed up with folk ignoring common sense and not caring a jot about others when going about their daily lives.
To call for ER to be full to the gunnels tonight (with no masks in seats) when we already know that a few days later, for everyone's safety, no more than 500 will be permitted at such events is hugely irresponsible.

Are people really being selfish and ignoring common sense? I think by and large compliance has been very good over the last couple of years and that the reason there's so much disquiet about plunging us back into severe restrictions is because people aren't convinced of the need for it this time round. As things stand there are 129 people in the UK in hospital with Omicron. Not nice for those people but it's a tiny amount and indicates that (so far at least) this variant is not likely to 'overwhelm the NHS'. For me the reduction in isolation time in England from 10 to seven days and the acceleration of the vaccine/booster programme are the way to go, not locking things down again. We've got to learn to live better with Covid or we'll continue to live this depressing half life for many months/years to come.

There's also a lack of logic to the restrictions this time eg why, if this variant is causing so much concern, are we allowed to go and watch Hibs tonight but not on Boxing Day? Why did the cup final get the go-ahead only for Swinney to admit yesterday it shouldn't have? Why are we limited in how many folk we can have in our house today but able to have as many as we like on Christmas Day? It's hard to take the advice seriously when it doesn't stack up.

[AugustaHibs]

Thinking about ramming the stadium for the game?
Thinking of going on a packed bus via a stowed out pub?
Thinking you are immune from catching Covid?

Remember Omicron is an anagram of MORONIC


Cringe.

[Heisenberg]

Thinking about ramming the stadium for the game?
Thinking of going on a packed bus via a stowed out pub?
Thinking you are immune from catching Covid?

Remember Omicron is an anagram of MORONIC

Only thing that’s moronic is the fact we can go to the game tonight without restrictions but not on the 26th. What’s the difference?

[Greenbeard]

Oh well.

Sorry you feel that way.

Hope ER is rocking tonight.
Aye, and if your name is Jack you'll be alright. F... everyone else and the community as a whole.

[AugustaHibs]

Aye, and if your name is Jack you'll be alright. F... everyone else and the community as a whole.

Nah. I’ll trust the science and the vaccines👍🏻

[hibsbollah]

Aye, and if your name is Jack you'll be alright. F... everyone else and the community as a whole.

A wee bit judgemental on your part there.

[Willis1875]

A thread on folk buying tickets for the game tomorrow has seriously descended into whether an independent Scotland could afford furlough? Seriously? Threads are all over the place on here today. Some folk really need to go and take out their frustrations on the Holy Ground, or on Twitter, or in a diary, or shout at a cloud while going a walk down Porty beach. Keep relevant, please!

Everything’s political now,these sad sacks in parliament are all household names these days.Bet they love the attention

[pacoluna]

Aye, and if your name is Jack you'll be alright. F... everyone else and the community as a whole.

Your aiming your anger at the wrong people.

[Since90+2]

Aye, and if your name is Jack you'll be alright. F... everyone else and the community as a whole.

Hope you're not having anyone round / going to family over Christmas and New Year. That's far more likely to lead to infections than going to ER, otherwise you'd be a tad hypocritical. And both are completely legal by the way.

[timewilltell]

Deputy First Minister John Swinney calling on all fans to stay away from football matches tonight.

[AugustaHibs]

Deputy First Minister John Swinney calling on all fans to stay away from football matches tonight.

John Swinney is hilarious, almost feel bad for the guy.

[WhileTheChief..]

I've got hospitality booked for tonight.

No chance I'm missing that and losing the cash because John Swinney says so :na na:

[davhibby]

Deputy First Minister John Swinney calling on all fans to stay away from football matches tonight.

If he could provide some evidence as to why sitting outside in an open air football stadium was so dangerous then I’d take some notice. I’ve still yet to see any. The narrative from him and Leitch on the radio this morning was that not having crowds was mainly to free up emergency services. The police and ambulance staff will still be there tonight whether 15 or 15 thousand folk turn up

[Chorley Hibee]

Deputy First Minister John Swinney calling on all fans to stay away from football matches tonight.

He also said it was fine to go to the panto.

He's a clown.

[Keith_M]

Deputy First Minister John Swinney calling on all fans to stay away from football matches tonight.


The Grinch that stole football.

[Mick O'Rourke]

He also said it was fine to go to the panto.

He's a clown.


Oh no he didn't !!

[Colr]

Going along (after wrestling with the ticket site for an age). Taking my lad to the East.

I’ll be wearing my mask, though!

[FilipinoHibs]

John Swinney is hilarious, almost feel bad for the guy.

Missed the big ones last week and now turning on the wee attendances. In the words of JS this is rediculous.

[He's here!]

Hibs have emailed fans encouraging us to get along to ER tonight. Clearly not paying much heed to Swinney.

[LunasBoots]

Deputy First Minister John Swinney calling on all fans to stay away from football matches tonight.

The more I watch him the more I realise why he has been subject to so many votes of no confidence

[H18 SFR]

Is there anyone who actually thinks Swinney has an ounce of credibility? Even the most hard core SNP members etc?

[HH81]

Hibs have emailed fans encouraging us to get along to ER tonight. Clearly not paying much heed to Swinney.

Yes I got the hibs email too. Made me laugh.

[Jay]

Gutted to be missing another game. I'm excited about the new manager and keen to see him start to get the results I think this group of players can get . Give them a cheer from me :flag:

[FilipinoHibs]

Think tonight is a low risk event. Smallish crowd. No tv coverage and people largely travelling in a fragmented way from Edinburgh. Sunday was the big one he missed.

[Pretty Boy]

Gutted to be missing another game. I'm excited about the new manager and keen to see him start to get the results I think this group of players can get . Give them a cheer from me :flag:

Amen.

If I could be there, I would be and I hope those that are give the new manager a big welcome and the players a rousing send off until we see them again.

It's really a matter for the individual. If you choose to stay at home then I respect that, no need to shame others for their decision. If you choose to go then fine, no need to castigate others for being cautious near Christmas.

[Jay]

Amen.

If I could be there, I would be and I hope those that are give the new manager a big welcome and the players a rousing send off until we see them again.

It's really a matter for the individual. If you choose to stay at home then I respect that, no need to shame others for their decision. If you choose to go then fine, no need to castigate others for being cautious near Christmas.

And often the choice is made for us. Those going be greatful you can, I know loads already are. There's many who would love to be in the stands with you.

[LunasBoots]

Can't make it, funds are always tight around Christmas so pick and choose games, picked the Derby...meh.

[Irish_Steve]

I have, true story - was coming home from high school and a girl ran in front of a big yellow double decker on Milton Road. She was hurt but ok.

Actual factual ;)

[GreenCastle]

Think tonight is a low risk event. Smallish crowd. No tv coverage and people largely travelling in a fragmented way from Edinburgh. Sunday was the big one he missed.

Personally didn’t feel any difference between the risk at ER and Hampden.

You can attend football without interacting with too many people.

Was in and out at Hampden - similar to ER.

I guess everyone has different routines but I didn’t feel any different except obviously bigger stadium and it was a final.

[h1bs4life]

I know its the Daily Record but the dentist just confirming they are making it up / plucking figures out the air.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-leitch-admits-spfl-500-25762322


Jason Leitch admits SPFL 500 fan cap not based on exact science but says 'you have to draw the line somewhere'

[big gogs]

Will John swinney call for people not to attend the Christmas market on princes street,or will they limit that to 500 .

[Pretty Boy]

Will John swinney call for people not to attend the Christmas market on princes street,or will they limit that to 500 .

Christmas event so it's fine. Covid knows.

[Ronniekirk]

I know its the Daily Record but the dentist just confirming they are making it up / plucking figures out the air.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-leitch-admits-spfl-500-25762322


Jason Leitch admits SPFL 500 fan cap not based on exact science but says 'you have to draw the line somewhere'

500 is where we started away back when we didn’t have vaccines
We are in a different place now so I don’t know how they justify 500 it’s nonsense


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[GreenCastle]

500 is where we started away back when we didn’t have vaccines
We are in a different place now so I don’t know how they justify 500 it’s nonsense


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500 sat together in a single stand while other 3 stands are empty.

“Follow the experts advice”

[Coco Bryce]

I know its the Daily Record but the dentist just confirming they are making it up / plucking figures out the air.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-leitch-admits-spfl-500-25762322


Jason Leitch admits SPFL 500 fan cap not based on exact science but says 'you have to draw the line somewhere'


The same guy who said last week he had no worries about big crowds 'outside in the cold' at Ibrox & Hampden last weekend.

Science/Data my arse!!

[Box 17]

Deputy First Minister John Swinney calling on all fans to stay away from football matches tonight.

Get double-masked and back behind your sofa, John.

We'll let you know when it's safe to come out.

[Chorley Hibee]

The same guy who said last week he had no worries about big crowds 'outside in the cold' at Ibrox & Hampden last weekend.

Science/Data my arse!!

The very same man.

Absolutely no shame either.

[Jamesie]

Can't make it, funds are always tight around Christmas so pick and choose games, picked the Derby...meh.

I’m sure if you contacted the club they’d let you swap the tickets over in the circumstances.

[Greenbeard]

Hope you're not having anyone round / going to family over Christmas and New Year. That's far more likely to lead to infections than going to ER, otherwise you'd be a tad hypocritical. And both are completely legal by the way.
Ah, right enough. I'll take your advice and cancel my two daughters and son-in-law coming on Xmas Day as it's too risky even though I know they have been being cautious, avoiding any close contact situations in the last few days and doing regular LFTs. Instead I'll come through on the bus sitting for 45 minutes close to folk I don't know, walk through crowds of unmasked folk to get into the stadium, touch surfaces I am not confident are sanitised, and sit for 90 minutes directly in front of a snivveling coughing shouty bloke who doesn't have a mask on. Aye.

[JJP]

Took a lateral flow test this morning and it came back negative so bought a ticket for tonight. Big game tonight. Fingers crossed for 3 points.

[Hibernian Verse]

The same guy who said last week he had no worries about big crowds 'outside in the cold' at Ibrox & Hampden last weekend.

Science/Data my arse!!

To be fair to the guy, he said that to the media and probably said that to the FM & her pals. Now that the FM has decided it's 500 and to get it right up football fans, he has to try and defend it somehow and probably won't sound convincing because he doesn't believe it himself.

[Since90+2]

Ah, right enough. I'll take your advice and cancel my two daughters and son-in-law coming on Xmas Day as it's too risky even though I know they have been being cautious, avoiding any close contact situations in the last few days and doing regular LFTs. Instead I'll come through on the bus sitting for 45 minutes close to folk I don't know, walk through crowds of unmasked folk to get into the stadium, touch surfaces I am not confident are sanitised, and sit for 90 minutes directly in front of a snivveling coughing shouty bloke who doesn't have a mask on. Aye.

Totally free to choose what you wish to do, nobody can preach to you what is right or wrong. Neither activity is not permitted and people can choose to attend/not attend as they wish.

Just like you, everyone is free to make those same choices, except you seem to think you have the right to preach to others what they should and shouldn't be doing.

Thankfully you don't have that right, so getting all upset on a message board won't do you much good at all.

[sadtom]

Gutted. No feeling well since Monday, thought I might have caught the virus at the semi but tested negative, though I’ve been in my kip since.
Really wanted to be there to show support to the new gaffer.
Can anyone confirm that I can still use my ST log in to watch the game on Hibs TV?

[Green_one]

Gutted. No feeling well since Monday, thought I might have caught the virus at the semi but tested negative, though I’ve been in my kip since.
Really wanted to be there to show support to the new gaffer.
Can anyone confirm that I can still use my ST log in to watch the game on Hibs TV?

Mine worked ok to see new managers broadcast Not used it for ages

[Irish_Steve]

Gutted. No feeling well since Monday, thought I might have caught the virus at the semi but tested negative, though I’ve been in my kip since.
Really wanted to be there to show support to the new gaffer.
Can anyone confirm that I can still use my ST log in to watch the game on Hibs TV?

Yes you can but remember it's via HibsTV and not the HibsPass we used last season - login details are still the same

[Keith_M]

I think the weather is more likely to put people off going tonight than John Swinney.

[Keith_M]

Hibs have emailed fans encouraging us to get along to ER tonight. Clearly not paying much heed to Swinney.


Is this just for an elite group of supporters only?


I didn't get an E-Mail, so I'm obviously not special enough!

:boo hoo:

[S4uzee]

Is this just for an elite group of supporters only?


I didn't get an E-Mail, so I'm obviously not special enough!

:boo hoo:

Check your junk mail

[Alfred E Newman]

Gutted. No feeling well since Monday, thought I might have caught the virus at the semi but tested negative, though I’ve been in my kip since.
Really wanted to be there to show support to the new gaffer.
Can anyone confirm that I can still use my ST log in to watch the game on Hibs TV?

Sorry, doesn't count. Unless you've got COVID no one is interested.

[Billy Whizz]

Is this just for an elite group of supporters only?


I didn't get an E-Mail, so I'm obviously not special enough!

:boo hoo:
They’ve changed their email address for communications at least 3/4 times in the last 4 months or so
End up in my junk folder

[Danderhall Hibs]

So we should be expecting a big crowd tonight? Welcome the new guy and Ross is away.

[Coco Bryce]

So we should be expecting a big crowd tonight? Week one the new guy and Ross is away.

I honestly think it will be empty tonight. Only two of us going from a group of six.

[Brightside]

Weather won’t help. But hopefully 13k or so.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Weather won’t help. But hopefully 13k or so.

Yeah but what about the actual attendance?

[Hibeewilly]

I honestly think it will be empty tonight. Only two of us going from a group of six.
None of us going out of a group of four. Everybody feels its too risky when we're going to be in close contact with older family members from Friday onwards. I just cant understand the Scottish Governments logic in allowing tonight's matches to go ahead. Anyway here's hoping for a good performance and a result tonight in our new managers first game in charge

[superfurryhibby]

Yeah but what about the actual attendance?

Be lucky to see half that in the ground I reckon. It would be very interesting to know the actual attendances just now.

[bigwheel]

Weather won’t help. But hopefully 13k or so.

With the amount on here saying that , for their own reasons, they won’t be going, the real attendance will be lucky to be near five figures..and that’s including a good Aberdeen turnout


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[sadtom]

Yes you can but remember it's via HibsTV and not the HibsPass we used last season - login details are still the same

Ah! Cheers. :aok:

[Inconsequential]

Ah, right enough. I'll take your advice and cancel my two daughters and son-in-law coming on Xmas Day as it's too risky even though I know they have been being cautious, avoiding any close contact situations in the last few days and doing regular LFTs. Instead I'll come through on the bus sitting for 45 minutes close to folk I don't know, walk through crowds of unmasked folk to get into the stadium, touch surfaces I am not confident are sanitised, and sit for 90 minutes directly in front of a snivveling coughing shouty bloke who doesn't have a mask on. Aye. Rational, intelligent posts like yours will not be tolerated on hibsnet. Have a good Christmas, stay safe.

[B.H.F.C]

I think the Hibs end will be busier that the last couple of games. Maybe not by much, but I do think it being the last game for an indefinite period and there being a new manager will encourage a few along.

[Greenbeard]

Totally free to choose what you wish to do, nobody can preach to you what is right or wrong. Neither activity is not permitted and people can choose to attend/not attend as they wish.

Just like you, everyone is free to make those same choices, except you seem to think you have the right to preach to others what they should and shouldn't be doing.

Thankfully you don't have that right, so getting all upset on a message board won't do you much good at all.
Pot, kettle, black.
Reply if you want but I'll not bore everyone else with another reply to your reply, unless your reply is a preaching reply in which case I might reserve the right to reply to your reply.
Oh and BTW, venting my feelings and expressing an opinion on a message board is great for my well-being, but more so my dug's.

[madhatter]

I think the Hibs end will be busier that the last couple of games. Maybe not by much, but I do think it being the last game for an indefinite period and there being a new manager will encourage a few along.

Agreed, think we will have a few more there.

I'd be at ER if it weren't for the whole rise in Covid concerns. Was really close to going. Definitely more positive about Hibs than I have been in a while. Can't wait to watch it on HibsTV. Hopefully be allowed back into ER early in the new year.

[Saint Hibee]

No team or match thread?

[Since90+2]

Pot, kettle, black.
Reply if you want but I'll not bore everyone else with another reply to your reply, unless your reply is a preaching reply in which case I might reserve the right to reply to your reply.
Oh and BTW, venting my feelings and expressing an opinion on a message board is great for my well-being, but more so my dug's.

Don't think you even know what you're going on about now. I've never once told people what they should or shouldn't be doing, unlike yourself.

Glad to hear your dugs keeping well though.