United in fir McGinn[emoji120]

[Cheshire Hibee]

Please let it be true, nice little cash injection for us hopefully[emoji736]
Man Utd target McGinn and De Jong moves
John McGinn and Frenkie de Jong are both on Manchester United's radar as they prepare for a new future under Ralf Rangnick, according to reports in the Sun on Sunday.
United have had a long-running interest in Aston Villa's Scotland international, who is valued at £50m.


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[BILLYHIBS]

Cannae be true

Some folk on here think SJM is not good enough to play for a top English club ? ?

They obviously did not see his performance yesterday

Scotsman also reporting it

Let it be true

[Allant1981]

Cannae be true

Some folk on here think SJM is not good enough to play for a top English club ? ?

They obviously did not see his performance yesterday

Scotsman also reporting it

Let it be true

Has there been folk on here saying that?

[BILLYHIBS]

Has there been folk on here saying that?

Yip!

Non HIBS game thread IIRC ?

[FilipinoHibs]

Yip!

Non HIBS game thread IIRC ?

Thought it was only Jambos and Celtic fans that spouted that rubbish.

[BILLYHIBS]

Thought it was only Jambos and Celtic fans that spouted that rubbish.

Celtic only wanted him as a benchwarmer so wouldn’t pay the asking price apparently

Hearts ?

Well their opinion really doesn’t count 😃

[Since452]

I've been saying for ages that Man United should sign him. Would be an excellent fit for that club in terms of personality and style and they've historically always had a strong Scottish element. Reminds me of a young Roy Keane in terms of his energy. Alex Ferguson would have had him signed by now.

[Just_Jimmy]

I've been saying for ages that Man United should sign him. Would be an excellent fit for that club in terms of personality and style and they've historically always had a strong Scottish element. Reminds me of a young Roy Keane in terms of his energy. Alex Ferguson would have had him signed by now.Mcginn is 27. Keane was 22 when he joined utd.

Mcginn would have to replace Fernandes to play further forward and even then he's completing with van der beek who hasn't had a look in. He'd add drive and energy there's no doubt and I'd like to see how he got on, I just don't see it happening.

He's not going to city or Liverpool. His best chance at a big money move would probably be to Newcastle when they start throwing money around in the early stages.

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[The 90+2]

The emoji i120 seals the deal for me like.

[Since452]

Mcginn is 27. Keane was 22 when he joined utd.

Mcginn would have to replace Fernandes to play further forward and even then he's completing with van der beek who hasn't had a look in. He'd add drive and energy there's no doubt and I'd like to see how he got on, I just don't see it happening.

He's not going to city or Liverpool. His best chance at a big money move would probably be to Newcastle when they start throwing money around in the early stages.

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I know there is a difference in ages but his style of play is very similar to Keane when he first joined. Box to box and never stops going. Different to the older Keane who sat deeper

[MWHIBBIES]

Cannae be true

Some folk on here think SJM is not good enough to play for a top English club ? ?

They obviously did not see his performance yesterday

Scotsman also reporting it

Let it be true

He's good enough for a place at United sure. Not the 3 teams who are actually top ones right now.

What is the source on this story anyway? Can't see villa selling him for 50 million

[bigwheel]

SJM seems to grow into what ever level he is playing at …and I wouldn’t bet against him growing his performance again if he got a move to Utd

[BILLYHIBS]

He's good enough for a place at United sure. Not the 3 teams who are actually top ones right now.

What is the source on this story anyway? Can't see villa selling him for 50 million

Source:

The Sun

The Scotsman

So it must be true

No?

[MWHIBBIES]

Source:

The Sun

The Scotsman

So it must be true

No?
Probably not, no

[CentreLine]

Probably not, no

Would be good though 🤞

[DH1875]

Probably done to death but what is the sell on clause? Lot of folk saying around 10% but I always thought it was closer to 30%.

[MWHIBBIES]

Would be good though 🤞

Of course.

I'd love this to happen, for John and most importantly, for Hibs. But I'm not sure it will. He is getting older, there are better midfielders out there and Villa would want more than what clubs will pay.

[Hiber-nation]

He's surprised me this season. Taken his game to a higher level. Bossing the midfield in Premier League games. Not many players can do that and it's brilliant to see.

[Diclonius]

McGinn Utd

[Speedy]

Probably done to death but what is the sell on clause? Lot of folk saying around 10% but I always thought it was closer to 30%.

The consensus seems to be 15%, with St Mirren getting 30% of our share. So effectively 10% to us, 5% to St Mirren.

[nonshinyfinish]

The emoji i120 seals the deal for me like.

Just checked the Unicode table and emoji120 is 'red-faced Celtc chairman'.

[nonshinyfinish]

The consensus seems to be 15%, with St Mirren getting 30% of our share. So effectively 10% to us, 5% to St Mirren.

It's no longer just consensus – it was officially confirmed at the AGM.

[Diclonius]

Five million for John McGillion

[Fergus52]

Mcginn is 27. Keane was 22 when he joined utd.

Mcginn would have to replace Fernandes to play further forward and even then he's completing with van der beek who hasn't had a look in. He'd add drive and energy there's no doubt and I'd like to see how he got on, I just don't see it happening.

He's not going to city or Liverpool. His best chance at a big money move would probably be to Newcastle when they start throwing money around in the early stages.

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He wouldn't play as a 10 at man u so wouldn't be competing with Fernandes.

He'd most likely play deeper and replace Fred as their left footed box to box midfielder

[Keith_M]

The consensus seems to be 15%, with St Mirren getting 30% of our share. So effectively 10% to us, 5% to St Mirren.


Mr pedantic says... It's actually 10.5% to us and 4.5% to St Mirren, but you were close :wink:


FWIW, I'd be surprised if Man United did go for him.

[Nicho87]

Some pals told me if Celtic signed him he would struggle to get ahead of nitcham at the time. Wow.

[Cheshire Hibee]

Watching Villa match yesterday I’m sure it was Souness said he would be a great fit at United.
After the Chelsea game earlier in the season he said McGinn is a great player who will only get better, Villa will go off at me for saying this but but big clubs will be looking at him!


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[IWasThere2016]

Has the work ethic to play for Liverpool - and the work ethic ManUre need.

He will move on.. and up.. I think it will be £50m+ also.

[Smartie]

Some pals told me if Celtic signed him he would struggle to get ahead of nitcham at the time. Wow.

My mate who supports Celtic STILL doesn't rate him.

Thinks he's pish, was delighted Celtic weren't held to ransom by Hibs (!!!!) and doesn't think he merits a starting place in the Scotland team.

Bizarrely - my mate is normally quite reasonable for one of them.

Fair to say - we disagree on this one by some way.

[NadeAteMyLunch!]

There was a cracking thread on JKB when Celtic were trying to sign him for £1million where they were pretty unanimous that he wasn’t worth that much and would not play at a higher level than Hibs. Perfectly summed up the stupidity of some football fans. Wonder if it’s still there..

[hhibs]

The consensus seems to be 15%, with St Mirren getting 30% of our share. So effectively 10% to us, 5% to St Mirren.

OR


10.5% to us 4.5 % to St Mirren

beaten to the punch by pedantic !

[Speedy]

What's 0.5% between friends...

[The 90+2]

Just checked the Unicode table and emoji120 is 'red-faced Celtc chairman'.

😆 the irony being his grandad was one.

[BroxburnHibee]

He's a better player than Fred IMO. He'd fit right into that position

[J-C]

He's a better player than Fred IMO. He'd fit right into that position

He was outstanding yesterday, his power and strength was so evident, add in about 5 wonderful defence splitting passes that weren't converted, he'll add so much more to that United midfield.

[gbhibby]

My mate who supports Celtic STILL doesn't rate him.

Thinks he's pish, was delighted Celtic weren't held to ransom by Hibs (!!!!) and doesn't think he merits a starting place in the Scotland team.

Bizarrely - my mate is normally quite reasonable for one of them.

Fair to say - we disagree on this one by some way.
Has he/she been to the opticians recently? If not you should make an appointment for him/her pronto.

[007]

My mate who supports Celtic STILL doesn't rate him.

Thinks he's pish, was delighted Celtic weren't held to ransom by Hibs (!!!!) and doesn't think he merits a starting place in the Scotland team.

Bizarrely - my mate is normally quite reasonable for one of them.

Fair to say - we disagree on this one by some way.

Ask him how many goals the disco lights they spent the money on instead have scored and assisted.

[BILLYHIBS]

He was outstanding yesterday, his power and strength was so evident, add in about 5 wonderful defence splitting passes that weren't converted, he'll add so much more to that United midfield.

One pass was even compared to Iniesta IIRC

That run where he bulldozed his way down the Leicester left second half was vintage SJM

Fair drags a team up the park

[hibsbollah]

Lawwell said he wasn’t worth £2million.
How did that go again?

[gbhibby]

I am sure it was reported that massive club Celtc could not match the wages offered to SJM by Villa.

[ancient hibee]

The decisions made over McGinn and Gordon show that Lawell was full of himself. Reminded me of Tom Hart with Strachan and Robertson many years ago.

[Liberal Hibby]

What's 0.5% between friends...

1% :wink:

[hibee-boys]

Why would Villa sell Mcginn for 50million when he’s got 3 years left on his contract and have to hand 15% back to us. Could they replace him for 42.5million🤔 I don’t think so, fees paid by EPL teams are ridiculous.

[Blurhibee]

I hope he signs for Liverpool, he would be a great replacement for Jordan Henderson for when he finishes

[Speedy]

Why would Villa sell Mcginn for 50million when he’s got 3 years left on his contract and have to hand 15% back to us. Could they replace him for 42.5million🤔 I don’t think so, fees paid by EPL teams are ridiculous.

I would agree. And for that reason I'm glad the sell on isn't any higher than 15%.

I reckon Villa will want around £70m.

[hhibs]

I would agree. And for that reason I'm glad the sell on isn't any higher than 15%.

I reckon Villa will want around £70m.


I f there is a bid from Liverpool or Man U then they will pay. IMO

Add in a Newcastle wild card and you just might get to that point.

[Just_Jimmy]

He wouldn't play as a 10 at man u so wouldn't be competing with Fernandes.

He'd most likely play deeper and replace Fred as their left footed box to box midfielderHe wouldn't do that either. It's not his best position and despite all the twitter experts, Fred isn't a bad player. I'd love to see mcginn at utd but I'll believe it when it happens.

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[Onion]

Cannae be true

Some folk on here think SJM is not good enough to play for a top English club ? ?

They obviously did not see his performance yesterday

Scotsman also reporting it

Let it be true

The state of Man U is summed up by how long it has taken them to target SJM. He's a no-brainer signing and easily good enough to improve them from where they are at the mo. Would much prefer Klopp/Liverpool to come in for him as he deserves better than Man U.

[Yorkshire HFC]

The state of Man U is summed up by how long it has taken them to target SJM. He's a no-brainer signing and easily good enough to improve them from where they are at the mo. Would much prefer Klopp/Liverpool to come in for him as he deserves better than Man U.

Man Utd haven't even got a permanent manager - are they really going to spend money on a player their new manager might not even want?

Anyway, I'm not bothered - I couldn't care less how much money Hibs have - some people seem to think having a good accountant is better than having a good striker. Spending money doesn't guarantee anything.

[Dalianwanda]

Man Utd haven't even got a permanent manager - are they really going to spend money on a player their new manager might not even want?

Anyway, I'm not bothered - I couldn't care less how much money Hibs have - some people seem to think having a good accountant is better than having a good striker. Spending money doesn't guarantee anything.

Nothings guaranteed but it is a fact that if you have money you can afford a higher calibre of player.....which gives a better chance of success. So you want us to get a good striker, what do we buy him with if not cash?

[Tommy75]

I hope he signs for Liverpool, he would be a great replacement for Jordan Henderson for when he finishes

Agreed but that depends when Henderson finishes playing. Henderson is only 31 and McGinn is 27. If Henderson has another 2/3 years in him I doubt they'd pay big bucks for a 30 year old McGinn.

[J-C]

Man Utd haven't even got a permanent manager - are they really going to spend money on a player their new manager might not even want?

Anyway, I'm not bothered - I couldn't care less how much money Hibs have - some people seem to think having a good accountant is better than having a good striker. Spending money doesn't guarantee anything.

Is he not taking over Woodward's job at the end of the season.

[Fergus52]

He wouldn't do that either. It's not his best position and despite all the twitter experts, Fred isn't a bad player. I'd love to see mcginn at utd but I'll believe it when it happens.

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Fred isn't bad but McGinn is better imo.

What would you say his best position is if not box to box/'number 8'? He's played there for all of his best, most consistent form at club level for both Hibs and Villa.

He's had several good games further forward for Scotland where he's a good fit in Clarke's system, but no way is his best position as a 10 or wide forward.

[neil7908]

I do think John's age is a factor here. English clubs splash the cash but I think they are normally looking for the finished article, or a younger player who might grow to be exceptional.

[theonlywayisup]

I do think John's age is a factor here. English clubs splash the cash but I think they are normally looking for the finished article, or a younger player who might grow to be exceptional.

You mean like a Dele Ali type player - however, huge risk that the young player doesn't continue to improve. There's many over the years that have promised so much, then failed to deliver when they see the big money in their bank. McGinn is becoming one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the EPL and his biggest asset is his energy.

[KeithTheHibby]

Man United's midfield lacks energy,been probably the biggest problem for them this season.

McGinn has this in abundance - he is also good enough for the Mancs so seems a perfect fit.

[LeithMike]

Man United's midfield lacks energy,been probably the biggest problem for them this season.

McGinn has this in abundance - he is also good enough for the Mancs so seems a perfect fit.Agree. They perhaps need a really good holding midfielder who is good on the ball too. That player, McGinn and Fernandes would be a very good midfield three.

Only issue would be that McGinn now has a lot of miles on the clock and a bad injury could curtail his covering of the park and he's not really cut out to be a defensive player.

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[Just_Jimmy]

Fred isn't bad but McGinn is better imo.

What would you say his best position is if not box to box/'number 8'? He's played there for all of his best, most consistent form at club level for both Hibs and Villa.

He's had several good games further forward for Scotland where he's a good fit in Clarke's system, but no way is his best position as a 10 or wide forward.I agree he's a traditional 8 but utd play with 2 6s and a 10.

I will say it again, I'd love him to sign for utd and he'd do well but i don't see it happening for various reasons.

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[Onion]

Man United's midfield lacks energy,been probably the biggest problem for them this season.

McGinn has this in abundance - he is also good enough for the Mancs so seems a perfect fit.

McGinn would be perfect for Man U and would continue the long line of great Scottish players to play for them. Their fans would love him.

Still think a move to Liverpool would be better for SJM.

[FilipinoHibs]

He's a better player than Fred IMO. He'd fit right into that position

Fred is a regular in the Brasil team!

[LancsHibs]

Don’t care where he goes but please Villa get Super John sold. We need to invest in our squad and that money would have us shopping at another level.🙏

[Greenworld]

McGinn would be perfect for Man U and would continue the long line of great Scottish players to play for them. Their fans would love him.

Still think a move to Liverpool would be better for SJM.Now is a great time for him to go to united. I've said he is made man United.
Where ever he ends up its looking like a bidding war which is magnificent.
He will be brilliant at either club . Selfishly I hope it's united.

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[Hibby Kay-Yay]

Don’t care where he goes but please Villa get Super John sold. We need to invest in our squad and that money would have us shopping at another level.🙏

I don’t think it would have us shopping for a lot of players at the next level. Big fees means big wages and that £5m (est amount) can be swallowed up quite quickly. Our next level would either be at the old firm or and inbetweener of Bigger than the rest but still Lower than the old firm.

I don’t think £5m would have us bigger than the rest but it would help to get us there.

[Sean1875]

Mad to think we're potentially looking at setting a new record fee received for a player and its not even us selling him :greengrin

[danhibees1875]

Mad to think we're potentially looking at setting a new record fee received for a player and its not even us selling him :greengrin

As are st mirren.

It'll trigger records for all 3 clubs.

[nonshinyfinish]

As are st mirren.

It'll trigger records for all 3 clubs.

It'll only be all three clubs if he's sold for more than Grealish…

[MWHIBBIES]

As are st mirren.

It'll trigger records for all 3 clubs.

It wont for Villa.

[AltheHibby]

It wont for Villa.

It might be!

Hey, I can dream, can't I?