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7Hero
04-12-2021, 08:42 AM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/celtic-tipped-sign-hibs-star-25608798
usual stirring it up from the Daily Ranger.
How much would you take ?
Poll over on we are Hibs FB page if you want to get involved too
https://www.facebook.com/groups/WeAreHibs
Speedy
04-12-2021, 08:53 AM
£3.5m plus 20% sell on fee
Edit: If he was on form I'd be looking for £5m plus 20%
Smartie
04-12-2021, 08:57 AM
£3m?
I’d bite their hand off.
We’ll probably see some good stuff from Nisbet this month - with a cup final and a transfer window coming up - but if the next window closed with him still at Easter Road it would be back to petted lip and playing like we were a man down.
Anything north of £1m I’d be biting the hand off tbh.
hibsbollah
04-12-2021, 08:59 AM
I’m stunned. It’s almost like they’re publishing unsettling stories in the run up to a big game with one of the uglies, I’ve never seen this tactic before :faf:
oneone73
04-12-2021, 09:01 AM
I don't want to sell him this season. Wait till after the World Cup a year from now.
Brightside
04-12-2021, 09:12 AM
Some on here would have taken fifty quid a couple of weeks ago.
BILLYHIBS
04-12-2021, 09:24 AM
I was his biggest fan and his ardent defender on here but like others I feel he has been a major disappointment this season
Hoping he can kick on in the next four weeks with some decent performances to put more zeros onto his value
My preference would be for him to stay but based on what I have seen so far this season he can go at the first acceptable offer as I don’t think he really wants to be here
ancient hibee
04-12-2021, 09:26 AM
£3m?
I’d bite their hand off.
We’ll probably see some good stuff from Nisbet this month - with a cup final and a transfer window coming up - but if the next window closed with him still at Easter Road it would be back to petted lip and playing like we were a man down.
Anything north of £1m I’d be biting the hand off tbh.
Absolute rubbish. How about supporting one of our players instead of constantly running him down.
easty
04-12-2021, 09:36 AM
Absolute rubbish. How about supporting one of our players instead of constantly running him down.
:agree:
I think the story is probably just the standard weegie press before a big game for one of them against us. That said, I'm certain Nisbet would score plenty goals for Celtc. They create so many chances. He's well out of form, but we're barely creating anything for him. He's proven he can score at this level and internationally.
He's a good player, and I'm glad we have him.
Hibees1973
04-12-2021, 09:39 AM
Jesus, some on here can't see a good player when we have one.
When he was off form, so was Boyle and Doidge was injured. So he lacked service and support.
He is the only one we have who is regularly in the Scotland squad. A squad that is as near to a World Cup in over 20 years.
Appreciate him and enjoy him while he is here. I've seen some forward players at Hibs in the last 10 years nowhere near the class Nisbet is in.
Value....£3m with a 20% sell on fee.
Allant1981
04-12-2021, 09:40 AM
:agree:
I think the story is probably just the standard weegie press before a big game for one of them against us. That said, I'm certain Nisbet would score plenty goals for Celtc. They create so many chances. He's well out of form, but we're barely creating anything for him. He's proven he can score at this level and internationally.
He's a good player, and I'm glad we have him.
So if we arent creating that much then how come boyle is scoring as much, sometimes players need to create their own chances, that being said nisbet has looked sharper lately and i wouldnt be trying to keep hold of him in january
easty
04-12-2021, 09:43 AM
So if we arent creating that much then how come boyle is scoring as much, sometimes players need to create their own chances, that being said nisbet has looked sharper lately and i wouldnt be trying to keep hold of him in january
But Nisbet is nothing like Boyle. There's no point comparing them. Different kind of attacking players.
Allant1981
04-12-2021, 09:46 AM
But Nisbet is nothing like Boyle. There's no point comparing them.
Both were playing up front so quite easy to compare, one was scoring, taking responsibility, creating chances, one wasnt at that time, again he looks sharper but this not creating chances for him chat is nonsense
Keith_M
04-12-2021, 09:49 AM
But Nisbet is nothing like Boyle. There's no point comparing them. Different kind of attacking players.
TBH, if Nisbet is worth £3M, then you could argue that Boyle must be worth double that.
He's scored a decent amount of goals as a midfielder and you can see how much he worries other sides by the number of players they often use to close him down.
easty
04-12-2021, 09:50 AM
Both were playing up front so quite easy to compare, one was scoring, taking responsibility, creating chances, one wasnt at that time, again he looks sharper but this not creating chances for him chat is nonsense
You're wrong.
greenlex
04-12-2021, 09:51 AM
You're wrong.
Not sure he is. He’s missed a good few chances of late that he should be scoring if he’s got a value of millions.
easty
04-12-2021, 09:52 AM
Not sure he is. He’s missed a good few chances of late that he should be scoring if he’s got a value of millions.
All strikers miss chances. I saw Aubameyang hit the post with an open goal from about 4 yards out against Newcastle last week. What's his value?
Allant1981
04-12-2021, 09:53 AM
You're wrong.
Nope dont think i am, but if you think we havent been creating chances for him then fair enough
easty
04-12-2021, 09:54 AM
TBH, if Nisbet is worth £3M, then you could argue that Boyle must be worth double that.
He's scored a decent amount of goals as a midfielder and you can see how much he worries other sides by the number of players they often use to close him down.
I couldn't even put a price on Boyle. Whatever it would be wouldn't be enough, we couldn't replace him.
theonlywayisup
04-12-2021, 09:58 AM
Agree with some of the comments on here - the boy is a very good footballer, but has struggled this season due to the lack of support, lack of fitness and possibly a lack of confidence. This has spawned the "not interested" guff.
He's improved year on year, albeit not (yet) this year. He's a Scotland internationalist, played three games in a major tournament and appears to be on the watchlist of a number of clubs. Yet some on here want to knock him at every opportunity with the sly digs.
blackpoolhibs
04-12-2021, 10:03 AM
Agree with some of the comments on here - the boy is a very good footballer, but has struggled this season due to the lack of support, lack of fitness and possibly a lack of confidence. This has spawned the "not interested" guff.
He's improved year on year, albeit not (yet) this year. He's a Scotland internationalist, played three games in a major tournament and appears to be on the watchlist of a number of clubs. Yet some on here want to knock him at every opportunity with the sly digs.
I'm not seeing any sly digs, i'm seeing valid critisicm of him.
easty
04-12-2021, 10:04 AM
I'm not seeing any sly digs, i'm seeing valid critisicm of him.
Dunno, I'd say Smarties post is a bit of a sly dig. That's the only one though.
Smartie
04-12-2021, 10:09 AM
Agree with some of the comments on here - the boy is a very good footballer, but has struggled this season due to the lack of support, lack of fitness and possibly a lack of confidence. This has spawned the "not interested" guff.
He's improved year on year, albeit not (yet) this year. He's a Scotland internationalist, played three games in a major tournament and appears to be on the watchlist of a number of clubs. Yet some on here want to knock him at every opportunity with the sly digs.
He had a rapid ascent up to about November last year. Since then he has regressed or stood still. With a rapid ascent, you could argue that it was always going to happen somewhere, at some point. He might be able to kick on and be stronger for the experience but that would depend on him being happy where he was and I just never get the feeling he is happy at Hibs.
I don't think he fits into the way the manager wants to play and his body language is often dreadful. We can pick what - on paper - looks like a solid looking team and it just doesn't go out and perform - and I reckon the majority of our troubles have come from Nisbet being unable to play that role.
What I say isn't going to make the slightest bit of difference to him but if we're talking about figures like £3m - I reckon we could get a whole lot more with a sum of that size than have a striker who can't play centrally in a 3 and blows as hot and cold as he does.
TelaStella
04-12-2021, 10:27 AM
The thing about him which can be favourable for us is he appears these days to be much higher rated across Scotland compared to what most of us here, who have the opportunity to watch him every week see and think. Going by this season at least anyway.
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Pretty Boy
04-12-2021, 10:32 AM
I'd take £3M for him, in the summer.
It would make him second only to Scott Brown in the list of record fees between Scottish clubs and value him, initially at least, higher than John McGinn.
We aren't going to get much more for him. He'll be 25 by the time the summer window comes around, he's not some untried rookie. There's a ceiling all players reach and he isn't going to get that much better.
gbhibby
04-12-2021, 10:42 AM
Next story will be about Boyle, then Porto, then Doig happens all time. Hope Nisbet gets back on the goalscoring trail. Doidge returning might just be the catalyst. £3m is a starting bid if he gets back to scoring.
Heisenberg
04-12-2021, 10:45 AM
Next story will be about Boyle, then Porto, then Doig happens all time. Hope Nisbet gets back on the goalscoring trail. Doidge returning might just be the catalyst. £3m is a starting bid if he gets back to scoring.
They’ve already got the Doig one out the way. Sure it was Charlie Nicholas.
Brightside
04-12-2021, 10:52 AM
The thing about him which can be favourable for us is he appears these days to be much higher rated across Scotland compared to what most of us here, who have the opportunity to watch him every week see and think. Going by this season at least anyway.
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Most of us rate him higher then some of us. The doubters are very much in the minority.
tamig
04-12-2021, 10:53 AM
We shouldn’t be entertaining any bids for KN in January. This looks like some lazy story off the back of Provan’s personal views. Highly doubtfull we’d be able to replace him in January so how much cash we got doesn’t really help us imo at this stage.
Smartie
04-12-2021, 10:54 AM
The thing about him which can be favourable for us is he appears these days to be much higher rated across Scotland compared to what most of us here, who have the opportunity to watch him every week see and think. Going by this season at least anyway.
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He’s played well against Rangers a couple of times in recent weeks - Davie Provan will have watched those games and will be basing Daily Record articles on those performances. He won’t have seen many of the games that have seen us pick up one league win in a few months.
Unfortunately for us clubs will scout players fully and will know that there’s a good bit of rough to go with the smooth.
Turning up in the big games can at least get your name spoken about though.
TelaStella
04-12-2021, 10:57 AM
Most of us rate him higher then some of us. The doubters are very much in the minority.
Some weeks minority, others perhaps a majority. It’s all performance based really. I just don’t feel there’s the same buzz around him this season compared to last.
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Hibee Mac
04-12-2021, 10:57 AM
We'd be in a stronger position to sell Nisbet if we'd done our business properly over the summer and signed another striker.
I think we should be looking to cash in on Nisbet soon but it's more of a risk now that we must sign his replacement in the same window as we sell him.
TelaStella
04-12-2021, 11:02 AM
He’s played well against Rangers a couple of times in recent weeks - Davie Provan will have watched those games and will be basing Daily Record articles on those performances. He won’t have seen many of the games that have seen us pick up one league win in a few months.
Unfortunately for us clubs will scout players fully and will know that there’s a good bit of rough to go with the smooth.
Turning up in the big games can at least get your name spoken about though.
Yep, totally agree with that.
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90274
04-12-2021, 11:11 AM
The thing about him which can be favourable for us is he appears these days to be much higher rated across Scotland compared to what most of us here, who have the opportunity to watch him every week see and think. Going by this season at least anyway.
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That's a good point and why some on here were surprised he was called up in the latest Scotland squad.
Smartie is not wrong in his post either with a Cup Final and transfer window on the horizon that we could see improved performances from him. The world of modern day footballers sadly.
If a club offered £3m in June for him I'd gladly take it.
WeeRussell
04-12-2021, 11:19 AM
Find it a bit strange that Doidge has had far more plaudits and support than our best striker by many on here for the last few months, when all he’s kicked is an opponent’s ghoullies.
(And that’s not intended as an attack on a Christian, who I obviously know has been injured..)
Having said that, I think 3 million wouldn’t be an unfair price should it come at the right time and suit all parties.
Carheenlea
04-12-2021, 11:23 AM
Just to clarify - this is Davy Provan saying Celtic should sign Nisbet?
Hibeesforever
04-12-2021, 11:24 AM
Nisbet was poor on Wednesday night, should have scored with his left foot when put through...poor decision making
shetlandhibee
04-12-2021, 11:26 AM
I'd take £3M for him, in the summer.
It would make him second only to Scott Brown in the list of record fees between Scottish clubs and value him, initially at least, higher than John McGinn.
We aren't going to get much more for him. He'll be 25 by the time the summer window comes around, he's not some untried rookie. There's a ceiling all players reach and he isn't going to get that much better.
This :top marks and i think he s in real danger of losing his place in the Scotland squad to Tony watt AS things are panning out this season :agree: i hope ime wrong tho
gbhibby
04-12-2021, 11:36 AM
They’ve already got the Doig one out the way. Sure it was Charlie Nicholas.
Celtic News has already had an article on signing
Boyler. Red tops will no doubt pick up on these just to fill their papers. I am sure we on here will people on here who will be able to come out with the banner headlines before the papers do. AUSSIE ANGE ADMIRES AUSSIE BOYLE etc.
Franck Stanton
04-12-2021, 11:46 AM
£3m?
I’d bite their hand off.
We’ll probably see some good stuff from Nisbet this month - with a cup final and a transfer window coming up - but if the next window closed with him still at Easter Road it would be back to petted lip and playing like we were a man down.
Anything north of £1m I’d be biting the hand off tbh.
Nail, hit, head. Really hope someone,anyone, offers £3m be mugs not to take it.
theonlywayisup
04-12-2021, 11:49 AM
Just watching the West Ham - Chelsea game and you can hear the murmurings from the crowd when the ball goes up to Antonio and he does nothing with it, giving the ball away easily. I suppose he's disinterested as well.
easty
04-12-2021, 12:04 PM
Just watching the West Ham - Chelsea game and you can hear the murmurings from the crowd when the ball goes up to Antonio and he does nothing with it, giving the ball away easily. I suppose he's disinterested as well.
He didn’t bother to mark Thiago Silva for the goal either. Clearly got a petted lip.
He hasn't played like £3m player, I think if Hibs get offered £1.5m plus a % of next sale, they might do a deal.
A Hi-Bee
04-12-2021, 12:42 PM
Ha, I trust most at Easter Road will have a bit more managerial experience of football teams and I trust them to do what's best for the club and the player, they will not be playing at football manager, making up hypothetical selling figures. Which although just opinions is no different to that offered by the weegie rag or the other poor newspapers on offer these days.
The guy is a Hibs player and a very good one at that, one that I hope we manage to keep for as long as possible.
:take that:take that:take that
Brightside
04-12-2021, 02:36 PM
£4m now.
easty
04-12-2021, 02:37 PM
Create chances and he’ll score
Big_Franck
04-12-2021, 02:56 PM
I thought he started poorly today, constantly giving away possession, getting outmuscled and his touch was poor. He was much better in the second half of the first half though and he took his goal really well. Hopefully that'll do his confidence the world of good.
Since90+2
04-12-2021, 03:06 PM
£3 million and he'll be off to Celtic. The money is decent and the club will be aware that he's likely to take the hump and his form drop off if it was rejected.
Hibernian Verse
04-12-2021, 03:57 PM
Not sure why he feels the need to try and nutmeg every single defender.
SHODAN
04-12-2021, 04:01 PM
£4m now.
And back to £3m.
Allant1981
04-12-2021, 05:23 PM
Create chances and he’ll score
Apart from the easiest chance of the game!! Thought he played well apart from that
LeithMike
04-12-2021, 05:46 PM
He's looking lot better again and far more involved in the play. Something was definitely up in the games before the semi. I think he is a good player but doesn't have enough of one ability (strength, skill or pace) to go that much further in the game. He's probably a better all round player than Doidge but Doidge's strength and ability in the air probably make him more important to Hibs.
If he could really knuckle down then he has the potential to be a very good Hibs player. If I was a Celtic fan though, I would be setting my sights higher.
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Heisenberg
04-12-2021, 05:48 PM
I thought he started poorly today, constantly giving away possession, getting outmuscled and his touch was poor. He was much better in the second half of the first half though and he took his goal really well. Hopefully that'll do his confidence the world of good.
Agree, thought he started dreadfully but grew into it. Great finish for the goal but definitely should’ve had two if not a hat trick.
HIBERNIAN-0762
04-12-2021, 05:50 PM
He will go eventually but think his heart is set on English football, much more money than the biscuit tin rattlers will offer.
Hibee Mac
04-12-2021, 06:16 PM
Nisbet is never good enough to do well in England. He no doubt thinks he is but I'll tell you right now with 100% confidence that he'll be Jason Cummings 2.0 if he goes down there.
easty
04-12-2021, 06:17 PM
Apart from the easiest chance of the game!! Thought he played well apart from that
We created chances and he scored. I certainly didn’t say he’ll score them all. No striker does.
Tony Watt’s header in the first half was an absolute sitter, he scored later on.
Smartie
04-12-2021, 06:17 PM
Having appeared to have slaughtered him earlier on in this thread - I don’t think it’s necessarily so much that he’s a bad player but that he doesn’t really fit into the way we play - and that he’s not good enough to build a team around.
We created a chance, he took it, which is great. But I don’t think he offers us enough to be even thinking about turning down £3m offers for.
easty
04-12-2021, 06:22 PM
Having appeared to have slaughtered him earlier on in this thread - I don’t think it’s necessarily so much that he’s a bad player but that he doesn’t really fit into the way we play - and that he’s not good enough to build a team around.
We created a chance, he took it, which is great. But I don’t think he offers us enough to be even thinking about turning down £3m offers for.
Appeared to? You implied he’d put in a few good performances cos we’ve got a cup final coming up and the transfer windows about to open…and says he’d get the petted lip again if he didn’t get a move in January.
You were slaughtering him, no “appeared” about it.
greenlex
04-12-2021, 06:24 PM
Having appeared to have slaughtered him earlier on in this thread - I don’t think it’s necessarily so much that he’s a bad player but that he doesn’t really fit into the way we play - and that he’s not good enough to build a team around.
We created a chance, he took it, which is great. But I don’t think he offers us enough to be even thinking about turning down £3m offers for.
I don’t think he offers enough without the ball. He doesn’t chase or worry defenders too often and they have all the time in the world to stroll about. If he could just play on the shoulder of defenders just like his goal today instead of dropping deep he’d bag a lot more and we would be winning more games. Even when Doidge came on you know he’s winning headers and flicking them on. Nisbet should be feeding off that. Instead he’s behind instead of in level and running if it or anticipating it.
Rumble de Thump
04-12-2021, 07:04 PM
Nisbet is never good enough to do well in England. He no doubt thinks he is but I'll tell you right now with 100% confidence that he'll be Jason Cummings 2.0 if he goes down there.
A lot of people think he is. He's already achieved much more than Jason Cummings.
Hibee Mac
04-12-2021, 07:41 PM
A lot of people think he is. He's already achieved much more than Jason Cummings.I'll happily eat humble pie if he proves me wrong, but he won't.
Was more referring to Cummings being a flop down south.
Mainstandman
04-12-2021, 07:43 PM
Maybe we could have a running value on the old scoreboard, goes up when he scores goes down when he misses!
truehibernian
04-12-2021, 07:48 PM
He seems happy there but I wouldn't be averse to bidding for Tony Watt in the window. Seems to have matured on the pitch last two seasons and a great character off the field.
Viva_Palmeiras
04-12-2021, 08:10 PM
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/celtic-tipped-sign-hibs-star-25608798
usual stirring it up from the Daily Ranger.
How much would you take ?
Poll over on we are Hibs FB page if you want to get involved too
https://www.facebook.com/groups/WeAreHibs
Each to their own but does this level of biting not simply encourage them? I won’t click through on either - you talk about them stirring it up and you’re simply adding to it. Cue a link to your poll citing whatever mad conclusions folks will draw from a bogus online poll (aren’t they all Boaty McBoat-face?)
Will We are Hibs stop at nothing as long as it draws attention or will you stop facilitating the tabloids?
greenlex
04-12-2021, 08:12 PM
He seems happy there but I wouldn't be averse to bidding for Tony Watt in the window. Seems to have matured on the pitch last two seasons and a great character off the field.
Nor I. I’ve watched a few well games on the tv this season and he’s matured into a very handy player. Today underlined that. Great finish midweek and that wasn’t a shabby one today either.
He's looking lot better again and far more involved in the play. Something was definitely up in the games before the semi. I think he is a good player but doesn't have enough of one ability (strength, skill or pace) to go that much further in the game. He's probably a better all round player than Doidge but Doidge's strength and ability in the air probably make him more important to Hibs.
If he could really knuckle down then he has the potential to be a very good Hibs player. If I was a Celtic fan though, I would be setting my sights higher.
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Totally agree. I would add he hasn't really improved any aspect of his game over his 18 months here. I just can't see the old firm or an english championship team being interested.
heretoday
04-12-2021, 08:36 PM
I can't see Celtic being interested. Not at the price some are suggesting.
Lancs Harp
04-12-2021, 08:38 PM
I think Kev will do well when he moves on. I see him playing in the English Championship where he will improve with good coaching an better players around him. He'll win a few more caps for Scotland and make himself a handsome living. Dont think he'll move to another Scottish Club myself.
Smartie
04-12-2021, 09:32 PM
Appeared to? You implied he’d put in a few good performances cos we’ve got a cup final coming up and the transfer windows about to open…and says he’d get the petted lip again if he didn’t get a move in January.
You were slaughtering him, no “appeared” about it.
I was actually trying to be balanced about it - not just focussing on his negatives but acknowledging his positives.
The boy can take a chance. He’s scored a few goals, for us and for other teams and his scoring record (at times) is such that other teams should show interest in him. There are weaknesses in his game though, weaknesses that I don’t see being improved upon drastically - and weaknesses that I don’t see clubs like Celtic paying £3m for and turning a blind eye to.
Why is he inconsistent? Why is anyone inconsistent? I’m not convinced in Nisbet’s case that it is necessarily ability, nor do I think it is the fault of the players around him.
I’m not convinced he is as rounded a player as we’d like him to be and I don’t think he’s as mentally robust as we’d like him to be.
Is it that unreasonable for a player to raise his game in the run up to a transfer window with a view to winning a move that might never on the table in future? Is it that unreasonable for a player to go through the motions at other times?
He’s human, and I’ll have a critical fan’s view on him that may be unfair.
Or maybe accurate.
Hibiza
04-12-2021, 10:37 PM
Been a big critic of his work ethic over the last few months - what a difference to see him involved , great goal too.
Onion
04-12-2021, 11:29 PM
I was his biggest fan and his ardent defender on here but like others I feel he has been a major disappointment this season
Hoping he can kick on in the next four weeks with some decent performances to put more zeros onto his value
My preference would be for him to stay but based on what I have seen so far this season he can go at the first acceptable offer as I don’t think he really wants to be here
You think ? Been obvious for months he’d rather be somewhere other than at Hibs. Anyone coming close to £3m can have him, plus the taxi ride. Nisbet would not get away with the kind of performances he regularly puts out for Hibs.
We’d be better off with the money and wage to bring in someone with some hunger.
Glory Lurker
04-12-2021, 11:36 PM
One million dollars.
Rumble de Thump
04-12-2021, 11:38 PM
It's been obvious for months he's had no striker to play alongside him, and no striker to replace him when he's needed a rest. The chat about him having a poor attitude, lack of desire or poor work rate is pure fantasy.
Apparently Kevin couldn't care less, Martin's a diver and Ryan is a brutal thug. I expect that kind of garbage from huns and jambos. Not Hibs fans.
Unseen work
05-12-2021, 05:51 AM
It's been obvious for months he's had no striker to play alongside him, and no striker to replace him when he's needed a rest. The chat about him having a poor attitude, lack of desire or poor work rate is pure fantasy.
Apparently Kevin couldn't care less, Martin's a diver and Ryan is a brutal thug. I expect that kind of garbage from huns and jambos. Not Hibs fans.
Regarding the last bit - I think even the biggest Kevin Nisbet fan would struggle to support his work rate before the international break. I don’t know what it was, if he was carrying an injury or something, but he was miles off what I expected from him.
He wasn’t closing down, there was no intensity in his play on or off the ball and he wasn’t making it difficult for the opposition.
Since we’ve came back though it’s been night and day and there’s a huge difference which funnily enough has seen him score twice. He’s also getting a lot of chances again which he just wasn’t getting before.
Kevin’s a good player, he could become a very good player if he sticks to those levels and does it consistently.
theonlywayisup
05-12-2021, 07:01 AM
It's been obvious for months he's had no striker to play alongside him, and no striker to replace him when he's needed a rest. The chat about him having a poor attitude, lack of desire or poor work rate is pure fantasy.
Apparently Kevin couldn't care less, Martin's a diver and Ryan is a brutal thug. I expect that kind of garbage from huns and jambos. Not Hibs fans.
100% agree. Our failings this season are down to a very poor summer transfer window, when we've not recruited enough quality players. It's clear that we've played players who were not 100% fit.
Winston Ingram
05-12-2021, 09:13 AM
£3m?
I’d bite their hand off.
We’ll probably see some good stuff from Nisbet this month - with a cup final and a transfer window coming up - but if the next window closed with him still at Easter Road it would be back to petted lip and playing like we were a man down.
Anything north of £1m I’d be biting the hand off tbh.
Getting back what we paid for him would be a good deal.
Anyone expecting 7 figures for him is utterly deluded.
Brightside
05-12-2021, 09:16 AM
Getting back what we paid for him would be a good deal.
Anyone expecting 7 figures for him is utterly deluded.
Now you are just being daft for the sake of it. Scotland international now and we would be lucky to get back what we paid?
Winston Ingram
05-12-2021, 09:18 AM
Now you are just being daft for the sake of it. Scotland international now and we would be lucky to get back what we paid?
He’s a Scotland international because the alternatives are rotten.
Allant1981
05-12-2021, 09:20 AM
He’s a Scotland international because the alternatives are rotten.
Do you honestly think steve clarke would pick players just because other players are "rotten"
Winston Ingram
05-12-2021, 09:22 AM
Do you honestly think steve clarke would pick players just because other players are "rotten"
He picks from what’s available, just like every other manager.
Do you honestly think steve clarke would pick players just because other players are "rotten"
He kept picking McBurnie, enough said.
Heisenberg
05-12-2021, 09:26 AM
Getting back what we paid for him would be a good deal.
Anyone expecting 7 figures for him is utterly deluded.
Utter nonsense 😂
Allant1981
05-12-2021, 09:31 AM
He kept picking McBurnie, enough said.
And then dropped him when he wasnt performing, enough said
bigwheel
05-12-2021, 09:32 AM
Getting back what we paid for him would be a good deal.
Anyone expecting 7 figures for him is utterly deluded.
I’m assuming you are just showing out with this post - to underline your point
If you mean it , on the other hand, your grasp of football ability and values would seem the equivalent of Craig Levein’s grasp of how to win cups and leagues ….
Winston Ingram
05-12-2021, 09:46 AM
Utter nonsense 😂
I’d be delighted to be proved wrong on this but you can bookmark that. We’ll not get anywhere 7 figures. Absolutely no chance.
Allant1981
05-12-2021, 09:57 AM
I’d be delighted to be proved wrong on this but you can bookmark that. We’ll not get anywhere 7 figures. Absolutely no chance.
So you think we will get less than a million for someone with a good few years left on his contract, has scored 6 goals so far for club and country despite not not being in form for part of that, and is still a current international player(despite what you think of his selection) if the club dont get 7 figures then id be amazed
Winston Ingram
05-12-2021, 09:59 AM
So you think we will get less than a million for someone with a good few years left on his contract, has scored 6 goals so far for club and country despite not not being in form for part of that, and is still a current international player(despite what you think of his selection) if the club dont get 7 figures then id be amazed
6 goals you say. I stand corrected. 😂
Allant1981
05-12-2021, 10:04 AM
6 goals you say. I stand corrected. 😂
Plenty of time left in the season to score more, folk are raving about tony watt just now yet he has only scored 4 more(i think). Morelos at the rangers has only scored about 4 or 5 more also and is apparently worth millions
04Sauzee
05-12-2021, 10:08 AM
Getting back what we paid for him would be a good deal.
Anyone expecting 7 figures for him is utterly deluded.
I must be utterly deluded.
I think you are talking nonsense but heyho
Since452
05-12-2021, 10:12 AM
I can't see Celtic being interested. Not at the price some are suggesting.
I'd be amazed. I think Nisbet has found his level. An English Championship team might take a punt.
greenlex
05-12-2021, 10:13 AM
I'd be amazed. I think Nisbet has found his level. An English Championship team might take a punt.
I’d be amazed too. I really don’t think he is the Celtic managers type of player.
CentreLine
05-12-2021, 10:22 AM
And then dropped him when he wasnt performing, enough said
😂 you are talking about a player who NEVER performed fir Scotland.
Allant1981
05-12-2021, 10:36 AM
😂 you are talking about a player who NEVER performed fir Scotland.
Yip exactly, and clarke dropped him so goes against what the poster was implying
easty
05-12-2021, 11:15 AM
Getting back what we paid for him would be a good deal.
Anyone expecting 7 figures for him is utterly deluded.
Attention seeking pish.
Yip exactly, and clarke dropped him so goes against what the poster was implying
But Clarke picked him, that is what I was getting at, he was rank rotten and was still being picked.
Greenbeard
05-12-2021, 02:01 PM
I'm a fan but if he doesn't move on in January or summer 2022, he will def be away come Jan or summer 2023, so when should Hibs cash in? His stock is def on the rise again after a bit of a dive earlier on this season.
It's oh so cool when he passes the ball casually into the net for a goal but for me he tries that too often. Sometimes I wish he would just absolutely blooter it eg the late chance yesterday. It was the force of his volley that beat the goalie for the goal. The direction being central and very close to the goalie didn't matter cos the ball hit the net before Kelly had a chance to react. More of that please.
MWHIBBIES
05-12-2021, 02:16 PM
I’d be delighted to be proved wrong on this but you can bookmark that. We’ll not get anywhere 7 figures. Absolutely no chance.
You do know we got offered over 2 million in January last season right?
Hes scoring again, hes gonna go for good money when he goes.
Hiber-nation
05-12-2021, 03:16 PM
Our best player 3 games in a row since he started working hard.
JimBHibees
05-12-2021, 06:09 PM
I’d be delighted to be proved wrong on this but you can bookmark that. We’ll not get anywhere 7 figures. Absolutely no chance.
Something like 3m would be about right why would we sell for a nonsense fee less than a million. He is a quality striker who scores goals.
JimBHibees
05-12-2021, 06:10 PM
Attention seeking pish.
:greengrin
Hes a decent striker, but doesnt have the ability of Riordan or Griffiths at the same age in my opinion, but he may well go on to have a more profitable career.
HoboHarry
06-12-2021, 12:16 AM
£3m?
I’d bite their hand off.
We’ll probably see some good stuff from Nisbet this month - with a cup final and a transfer window coming up - but if the next window closed with him still at Easter Road it would be back to petted lip and playing like we were a man down.
Anything north of £1m I’d be biting the hand off tbh.
I usually like reading your posts but that's a long way from your usual standard.
Smartie
06-12-2021, 10:05 AM
I usually like reading your posts but that's a long way from your usual standard.
Sorry about that - although I just have to admit that I've struggled to warm to Nisbet.
A few points I'll add here - I couldn't care less what motivates him to play well. If he has an immense December because he's playing to earn a move, I'll be delighted. I reckon Porteous is trying to earn a move at the moment, which is fine. He's not going to get one if he doesn't play to a very high standard for us and look entirely committed in the process - both of which he does. If a player like that eventually outgrows you and gets the move they've earned, I think they move on with our best wishes.
Nisbet has admitted himself that he had attitude issues, leading to him having to drop down a couple of levels to play for Raith and rebuild his career from there. His body language isn't always brilliant and it makes you wonder if there are still "issues".
I also think it's maybe a wee bit unfortunate for him that he played his best football for Hibs a long time before fans were allowed back in. Since we were allowed back into the ground I've never once seen him in the flesh play to a level I'd expect of a £3m rated Scotland internationalist. Now, if he fancies changing that at Hampden later this month then he can feel free...
Greenworld
06-12-2021, 10:26 AM
More concerned with a bid coming in for Squirrel. Top of his game must be getting attention around the world with great performances for Australia also
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FilipinoHibs
06-12-2021, 10:34 AM
Our best player 3 games in a row since he started working hard.
As the January window approaches.
WeeRussell
06-12-2021, 11:56 AM
More concerned with a bid coming in for Squirrel. Top of his game must be getting attention around the world with great performances for Australia also
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You’d think so. It’s hard to believe we haven’t had to fight off more interest already. The improvement in his game during his time at us really has been mental.
Springbank
06-12-2021, 12:04 PM
Nisbet's movement & first touch are really good.
Scored v Netherlands at international level.
He's £3m plus a 20% sell-on all day long imo
But above that, he's the guy to score the winner in the cup final....:flag:
greenlex
06-12-2021, 12:59 PM
Nisbet's movement & first touch are really good.
Scored v Netherlands at international level.
He's £3m plus a 20% sell-on all day long imo
But above that, he's the guy to score the winner in the cup final....:flag:
Your first sentence is erroneous. The last two word should be replaced by hit and miss.
MWHIBBIES
06-12-2021, 01:17 PM
As the January window approaches.
This old chesnut. As if playing well all season wouldn't be the right way to get a transfer. Clubs only sign players who play well in December.
Centre Hawf
06-12-2021, 07:31 PM
I like Nisbet and have defended him a lot, and I'd be more than happy to see him stay at Hibs if it did transpire. But I also said before the summer we shouldn't be turning down bids for players that are in the 2/3+ million range, it's as simple as that. We should have sold Doig when the opportunity came up, and if similar types of bids came in for Porteous or Nisbet we should sell them too.
I've never understood the necessity from people/clubs to want to keep players when the money on offer could potentially revamp the squad or even set the club up for years to come. It's short sighted and I think naive to think that by keeping a Nisbet or a Doig we're some how going to win the title. I get that we obviously want to win trophies and having better players will naturally increase your chances of doing so, but at the same time you do have to strike while irons are hot and use that to your advantage instead.
Ideal scenario for me would be we sell Doig, Porteous, Nisbet for somewhere in the region of £7/8/9 million and you use that money to locate 6/7 really strong first team players that not only have a good chance of replacing what we sold but also others to replace the weak links in our team, bringing the overall standard of the squad up higher. You get 2/3 years out of that group and you rinse and repeat and hope more players leave with trophies to their name than ones who don't.
newmarket_hibbee
06-12-2021, 08:22 PM
I was his biggest fan and his ardent defender on here but like others I feel he has been a major disappointment this season
Hoping he can kick on in the next four weeks with some decent performances to put more zeros onto his value
My preference would be for him to stay but based on what I have seen so far this season he can go at the first acceptable offer as I don’t think he really wants to be here
I let everyone know near the end of last season how bad I thought he was back then, and received every excuse under the sun regarding his performance, and was then ripped appart for my statement. What a differece nine months make, not at all, I still feel the same, apart from his goal on saturday, his first touches and ball control were abysmal. Still have no time for him, but the team has few options but to play him...but three million.....come on!!!
blackpoolhibs
07-12-2021, 07:56 AM
I like Nisbet and have defended him a lot, and I'd be more than happy to see him stay at Hibs if it did transpire. But I also said before the summer we shouldn't be turning down bids for players that are in the 2/3+ million range, it's as simple as that. We should have sold Doig when the opportunity came up, and if similar types of bids came in for Porteous or Nisbet we should sell them too.
I've never understood the necessity from people/clubs to want to keep players when the money on offer could potentially revamp the squad or even set the club up for years to come. It's short sighted and I think naive to think that by keeping a Nisbet or a Doig we're some how going to win the title. I get that we obviously want to win trophies and having better players will naturally increase your chances of doing so, but at the same time you do have to strike while irons are hot and use that to your advantage instead.
Ideal scenario for me would be we sell Doig, Porteous, Nisbet for somewhere in the region of £7/8/9 million and you use that money to locate 6/7 really strong first team players that not only have a good chance of replacing what we sold but also others to replace the weak links in our team, bringing the overall standard of the squad up higher. You get 2/3 years out of that group and you rinse and repeat and hope more players leave with trophies to their name than ones who don't.
I dont think selling all 3 at once is a good stategy, Nisbet for me is the one we could sell without losing much, especially if we brought in a couple of decent players with the money, not all of it obviously.
I'd hope we get another season out of Josh and Ryan, obviously we need Ryan to sign an extention for this to happen, but i like the way Doig is progressing, and i can see him leaving at the end of next season for a hefty fee, Ryan likewise but hopefully by then we have replacements in mind or even in the door for one of them at least.
We have quite a few of the fringe players out of contract this summer, and i think we are in quite a strong position then to use that money and maybe the Nisbet cash to strengthen.
Fergus52
07-12-2021, 08:16 AM
Your first sentence is erroneous. The last two word should be replaced by hit and miss.
I think his movement is consistently good,
but describing his first touch as hit and miss is very generous imo, for a player of his ability his touch is really poor. Even when on form he seems to lose the ball at least a couple of times a game from poor control.
Hibee Mac
07-12-2021, 09:10 AM
I think his movement is consistently good,
but describing his first touch as hit and miss is very generous imo, for a player of his ability his touch is really poor. Even when on form he seems to lose the ball at least a couple of times a game from poor control.I agree. Moves break down at Nisbet a bit too often for my liking.
His lack of ability to hold up a ball is worrying for a striker, I think he's more of an in-between kind of player which is why we saw the best of him with Doidge next to him.
You don't pay big money for a striker who can't hold the ball up though, most teams play 1 central striker these days and he looks poor in that position.
Greenbeard
07-12-2021, 11:41 AM
I think his movement is consistently good,
but describing his first touch as hit and miss is very generous imo, for a player of his ability his touch is really poor. Even when on form he seems to lose the ball at least a couple of times a game from poor control.
His first touch is absolutely superb compared to yon Swiss/Albanian/Kosovan bloke we had.
WeeRussell
07-12-2021, 12:57 PM
I let everyone know near the end of last season how bad I thought he was back then, and received every excuse under the sun regarding his performance, and was then ripped appart for my statement. What a differece nine months make, not at all, I still feel the same, apart from his goal on saturday, his first touches and ball control were abysmal. Still have no time for him, but the team has few options but to play him...but three million.....come on!!!
Once Nisbet scores another couple of goals over the next week and we get a couple of wins, it'll maybe be another player's turn to get the over the top criticism. It's the hibs.net way. Maybe if we win the final on top of that, Jack Ross will even get some time off from the abuse.
newmarket_hibbee
08-12-2021, 01:19 PM
Once Nisbet scores another couple of goals over the next week and we get a couple of wins, it'll maybe be another player's turn to get the over the top criticism. It's the hibs.net way. Maybe if we win the final on top of that, Jack Ross will even get some time off from the abuse.
hardly "over the top criticism", even when we were winning, this season and last, he never really seemed in the game, but as i said, who else you gonna put on.
WeeRussell
08-12-2021, 01:36 PM
hardly "over the top criticism", even when we were winning, this season and last, he never really seemed in the game, but as i said, who else you gonna put on.
Personally think this thread is littered with over the top criticism, and your use of "abysmal" fell into that category too. Only my opinion.
You're determined to be proved right about "how bad" you've always said he was, as is your right. I'm hoping he sticks around long enough for you and others to eat their words :greengrin
SlickShoes
08-12-2021, 09:42 PM
Trying to win that header in the box with just him vs the ball sort of sums up where his value stands right now, that along with his first touch that knocks the ball away and missing a complete sitter at the death. If any decent offer comes in i'd take it in a heartbeat.
Crammond Hibee
08-12-2021, 09:45 PM
Yes cash in
judas
08-12-2021, 09:54 PM
Sorry about that - although I just have to admit that I've struggled to warm to Nisbet.
A few points I'll add here - I couldn't care less what motivates him to play well. If he has an immense December because he's playing to earn a move, I'll be delighted. I reckon Porteous is trying to earn a move at the moment, which is fine. He's not going to get one if he doesn't play to a very high standard for us and look entirely committed in the process - both of which he does. If a player like that eventually outgrows you and gets the move they've earned, I think they move on with our best wishes.
Nisbet has admitted himself that he had attitude issues, leading to him having to drop down a couple of levels to play for Raith and rebuild his career from there. His body language isn't always brilliant and it makes you wonder if there are still "issues".
I also think it's maybe a wee bit unfortunate for him that he played his best football for Hibs a long time before fans were allowed back in. Since we were allowed back into the ground I've never once seen him in the flesh play to a level I'd expect of a £3m rated Scotland internationalist. Now, if he fancies changing that at Hampden later this month then he can feel free...
You make a good point about the effect of the crowd.
The Captain....
08-12-2021, 10:01 PM
I don't know how he didn't at least hit the target with the last chance of the game. Seemed harder to miss.
He would struggle to get in a top 7 or 8 of hibs strikers I've watched over the years. He's slow, unreliable first touch and gives away possession continually. He's not a bad first time finisher in his defence but his all round game doesn't justify the way he saunters round the pitch imo. I think we're dreaming if we think we'd get decent money for him after the season he has had.
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WeeRussell
08-12-2021, 10:58 PM
I don't know how he didn't at least hit the target with the last chance of the game. Seemed harder to miss.
He would struggle to get in a top 7 or 8 of hibs strikers I've watched over the years. He's slow, unreliable first touch and gives away possession continually. He's not a bad first time finisher in his defence but his all round game doesn't justify the way he saunters round the pitch imo. I think we're dreaming if we think we'd get decent money for him after the season he has had.
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To be fair I don’t know how old you are but we’ve had some belting strikers in my close to 30 years watching Hibs! I could rattle off 7 no bother and it would be no shame for our current crop not to be getting in.
Other than that point taken 👍
Forza Fred
08-12-2021, 11:14 PM
To be fair I don’t know how old you are but we’ve had some belting strikers in my close to 30 years watching Hibs! I could rattle off 7 no bother and it would be no shame for our current crop not to be getting in.
Other than that point taken 👍
He’d be struggling to get in my top 20
newmarket_hibbee
08-12-2021, 11:24 PM
Personally think this thread is littered with over the top criticism, and your use of "abysmal" fell into that category too. Only my opinion.
You're determined to be proved right about "how bad" you've always said he was, as is your right. I'm hoping he sticks around long enough for you and others to eat their words :greengrin
abysmal, crap, rubbish, its all the same and he was all that again tonight, if as you say he stays with us long enough to prove me wrong, the question should be just how long are hibs gonna wait for this to happen.
Winston Ingram
09-12-2021, 05:52 AM
He’d be struggling to get in my top 20
He’d struggle to get in my top 100. Awful again tonight. I await all the excuses as to why it was yet again not his fault for the umpteenth time this season.
He jumped for a high ball in the box and totally misjudged it by about a yard, that basically sums him up right now, be lucky to get anywhere near £1m for him, he's not exactly showing any suitors he's worth more.
Winston Ingram
09-12-2021, 06:52 AM
He jumped for a high ball in the box and totally misjudged it by about a yard, that basically sums him up right now, be lucky to get anywhere near £1m for him, he's not exactly showing any suitors he's worth more.
That was absolutely pathetic. Completely shat it.
Stokesy's on fire
09-12-2021, 06:57 AM
Getting back what we paid for him would be a good deal.
Anyone expecting 7 figures for him is utterly deluded.
Agree
Tambo
09-12-2021, 07:00 AM
I would have him on the bench for Laidlaw or O'Connor for Saturday.
I don't think they could be any worse.
Ringothedog
09-12-2021, 10:07 AM
He’d struggle to get in my top 100. Awful again tonight. I await all the excuses as to why it was yet again not his fault for the umpteenth time this season.
I am not sticking up for him, but the service he gets from our midfield is absolutely dreadful. We do not play to our forwards strengths. Passing a ball sideways and then back to our centre Half’s to hoof forward for the opposition centre half to win in the air is just garbage
Scottie
09-12-2021, 10:51 AM
Good players don't miss the target from 5 yards out like he does consistently. Last minute chance last night a prime example. That's why he is at Hibs though. If he was any better he wouldn't be here.
Just don't get the hype some people place on him :confused:
blackpoolhibs
09-12-2021, 10:57 AM
I am not sticking up for him, but the service he gets from our midfield is absolutely dreadful. We do not play to our forwards strengths. Passing a ball sideways and then back to our centre Half’s to hoof forward for the opposition centre half to win in the air is just garbage
He scored a great finish on Saturday, but it is nonsense to say he's not had service, he's missed numerous chances recently, all in the 6 yard box too.
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 11:29 AM
I would have him on the bench for Laidlaw or O'Connor for Saturday.
I don't think they could be any worse.
They could and would be. Nisbet isn't in great form but still has 2 in his last 4. Both great goals as well.
Steven79
09-12-2021, 11:42 AM
Good players don't miss the target from 5 yards out like he does consistently. Last minute chance last night a prime example. That's why he is at Hibs though. If he was any better he wouldn't be here.
Just don't get the hype some people place on him :confused:
He's only still at Hibs because we turned down an offer for him just over a year ago.
With hindsight we should have taken the money and ran...
Winston Ingram
09-12-2021, 01:42 PM
I am not sticking up for him, but the service he gets from our midfield is absolutely dreadful. We do not play to our forwards strengths. Passing a ball sideways and then back to our centre Half’s to hoof forward for the opposition centre half to win in the air is just garbage
I'm not having that. The reason it looks dreadful is because he barely moves and when it is played into his feet with a defender behind him he miscontrols and loses it.
Allant1981
09-12-2021, 01:44 PM
Good players don't miss the target from 5 yards out like he does consistently. Last minute chance last night a prime example. That's why he is at Hibs though. If he was any better he wouldn't be here.
Just don't get the hype some people place on him :confused:
He is at hibs because we knocked back an offer
Edinburgh Green
09-12-2021, 02:00 PM
I can know totally understand why he was desperate to move to Birmingham 6 months into a contract. He knew that was a step too far but he would of got a good pay day before signing for Dundee in 2 years time!
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Winston Ingram
09-12-2021, 03:21 PM
I can know totally understand why he was desperate to move to Birmingham 6 months into a contract. He knew that was a step too far but he would of got a good pay day before signing for Dundee in 2 years time!
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They spent £2m on Cosgrove which demonstrated their desperation at that time. He's now at Shrewsbury on loan and can't get a game.
Steven79
09-12-2021, 03:52 PM
They spent £2m on Cosgrove which demonstrated their desperation at that time. He's now at Shrewsbury on loan and can't get a game.
We screwed up by not taking the money and running.
Will never get anywhere near that offer for him again...
MWHIBBIES
09-12-2021, 03:56 PM
We screwed up by not taking the money and running.
Will never get anywhere near that offer for him again...
Silly thing to say. New manager gets him firing again we absolutely will.
JohnMcM
09-12-2021, 04:06 PM
I hope for his sake he is not playing his way out of Steve Clarke’s squad.
Steven79
09-12-2021, 04:16 PM
I hope for his sake he is not playing his way out of Steve Clarke’s squad.I'm surprised that he's still in it.
On form this season Tony Watt deserves to be in it over him.
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Winston Ingram
09-12-2021, 07:30 PM
We screwed up by not taking the money and running.
Will never get anywhere near that offer for him again...
Absolutely no chance we’ll get it.
Who pays 7 figures for a player with a **** first touch, poor work rate, average goal record and in a world where 99% of decent attacking sides play with one central striker, needs a partner?
Dashing Bob S
09-12-2021, 07:35 PM
Doubt Nisbet is going anywhere until a new manager is installed. Despite the Scotland caps (r maybe because of them) his value has dwindled this season. They will try and get him back on track and his value up before flogging him.
WeeRussell
09-12-2021, 11:50 PM
I'm surprised that he's still in it.
On form this season Tony Watt deserves to be in it over him.
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Yeah I don’t think his form right now warrants a place in the national side. And I like Nisbet. Like you say, there are other options available and on form.
Hopefully he’s in the next squad owing to his form with us though!
Winston Ingram
10-12-2021, 06:31 AM
Yeah I don’t think his form right now warrants a place in the national side. And I like Nisbet. Like you say, there are other options available and on form.
Hopefully he’s in the next squad owing to his form with us though!
He doesn't warrant a place in our side and hasn't for months.
Steven79
10-12-2021, 08:13 AM
He doesn't warrant a place in our side and hasn't for months.Sadly when the other options are a unfit Scott, Injured Doidge and Gullan whom Jack didn't fancy as a player we had no choice but to keep playing him.
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