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Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 08:14 AM
Live today 4pm UK. Not sure if they are doing both semi and Final draws, but would make sense

Seeded Teams
Portugal
Scotland
Italy
Russia
Sweden
Wales

Unseeded
Austria
North Macedonia
Turkey
Poland
Ukraine
Czech Republic

So who do you want in the semi final?

Since90+2
26-11-2021, 08:15 AM
Live today 4pm UK. Not sure if they are doing both semi and Final draws, but would make sense

Seeded Teams
Portugal
Scotland
Italy
Russia
Sweden
Wales

Unseeded
Austria
North Macedonia
Turkey
Poland
Ukraine
Czech Republic

So who do you want in the semi final?

Austria would be to easiest draw.

We have a 2/3 chance of being in the same side of the draw as Italy or Portugal. Need to get lucky there to have any chance.

Danderhall Hibs
26-11-2021, 08:28 AM
I think they draw them and the winners of matches 1 and 2 (for example) play in the final.

Austria in the semi, then the winners of Poland v Wales in the final.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 09:12 AM
North Macedonia in the semi surely?

hibsbollah
26-11-2021, 10:52 AM
Austria or north Macedonia in the semi.

We’ve got to hope there are some upsets in the other ties, because I don’t like our chances against the other top seeds in the final, Wales are our level but all the others are of a higher pedigree.

evy
26-11-2021, 10:56 AM
Austria/North Macedonia then luck of the draw for the final.

Portugal aren't the force they were and on a bit of a downward trend (imo).

Oscar T Grouch
26-11-2021, 10:59 AM
Whatever the draw is today it is going to be two hard games to qualify for this WC. North Macedonia beat good teams to get to this play off so they won't be the easiest, with our previous knowledge of Austria that could be a good option for us but I don't see an easy game in the semi or the final. Knowing Scotland we will beat the Czechs on pens in the semis and get beaten by a last minute goal from Italy in the final :greengrin

CMurdoch
26-11-2021, 11:01 AM
Both games at home
North Macedonia, 2nd choice Austria 3rd choice Czech Republic for the semi and
Wales or Sweden for the final

Every other country has a massive population and therefore loads of good players

North Macedonia 2.1 million
Wales 3.2 million
Scotland 5.5 million
Austria 9 million
Sweden 10.2 million
Czech Republic 10.7 million

Scotland and Wales are helped by getting easy access to players from England which probably boosts us up to a country of 7 million and Wales up to 5 million

Green Badger
26-11-2021, 11:04 AM
How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?

JimBHibees
26-11-2021, 11:05 AM
Austria or north Macedonia in the semi.

We’ve got to hope there are some upsets in the other ties, because I don’t like our chances against the other top seeds in the final, Wales are our level but all the others are of a higher pedigree.

Sweden or Russia at home would be winnable I think. There is no way in my cynical opinion that Portugal and Italy will be drawn together so every chance we will need to beat one of them

JimBHibees
26-11-2021, 11:06 AM
How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?

Must be a draw e.g semi final 2 v semi final 1 sort of thing.

JeMeSouviens
26-11-2021, 11:08 AM
How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?

I think that's drawn today as well. So it'll be winner1 at home to winner2 kind of thing.

Smartie
26-11-2021, 11:08 AM
Sweden or Russia at home would be winnable I think. There is no way in my cynical opinion that Portugal and Italy will be drawn together so every chance we will need to beat one of them

Can we not get Boris or Nicola to engineer a diplomatic incident so we can avoid them Russia/ Ukraine style?

Just_Jimmy
26-11-2021, 11:21 AM
How do they determine who gets home draw for the final?It's a draw, ball 1 and ball 2 if 1 gets drawn then winner semi 1 is at home in the final verses semi 2.

Same for 3 v 4 and 5 v 6.

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Fergus52
26-11-2021, 11:52 AM
Austria or north Macedonia in the semi.

We’ve got to hope there are some upsets in the other ties, because I don’t like our chances against the other top seeds in the final, Wales are our level but all the others are of a higher pedigree.

I don't think Sweden or Russia have better squads on paper - if you judge the starting XIs on caliber of player in terms of what league they play in, champions league experience etc. then an argument could be made that we are stronger (except maybe right back) - Scottish league is currently ranked higher than Russia's which most of their squad plays in.

but both are miles ahead of us in terms of results, consistency and tournament performances in the last few years.

Good examples of what we should be trying to emulate though - a hard working, hard to beat team, greater than the sum of its parts which regularly causes upsets and scrapes their way to quarter finals of majour tournaments.

SteveHFC
26-11-2021, 12:09 PM
Macedonia in the semi then Wales in the final at Hampden :aok:

PatHead
26-11-2021, 12:12 PM
Macedonia in the semi then Wales in the final at Hampden :aok:

Would rather there was a shock and a non seeded team made it through to meet us.qualified

Springbank
26-11-2021, 12:17 PM
Live today 4pm UK. Not sure if they are doing both semi and Final draws, but would make sense

Seeded Teams
Portugal
Scotland
Italy
Russia
Sweden
Wales

Unseeded
Austria
North Macedonia
Turkey
Poland
Ukraine
Czech Republic

So who do you want in the semi final?

If we draw the Ukraine then apparently the final cannot be vs Russia (as fifa won't allow a Russia v Ukraine tie)

An absolute shambles.

It would make the chances of a final v italy or Portugal effectively 50/50

CMurdoch
26-11-2021, 12:23 PM
I don't think Sweden or Russia have better squads on paper - if you judge the starting XIs on caliber of player in terms of what league they play in, champions league experience etc. then an argument could be made that we are stronger (except maybe right back) - Scottish league is currently ranked higher than Russia's which most of their squad plays in.

but both are miles ahead of us in terms of results, consistency and tournament performances in the last few years.

Good examples of what we should be trying to emulate though - a hard working, hard to beat team, greater than the sum of its parts which regularly causes upsets and scrapes their way to quarter finals of majour tournaments.

Russia has a population of 146 million people to Scotland's 5 million.
Safe to say Russia have loads more good players than Scotland.
Hibs should be scouting there!

Bristolhibby
26-11-2021, 12:28 PM
If we draw the Ukraine then apparently the final cannot be vs Russia (as fifa won't allow a Russia v Ukraine tie)

An absolute shambles.

It would make the chances of a final v italy or Portugal effectively 50/50

Not only the final but they can’t be in the same bracket.

Pesky war and troops massing at the border.

J

hibsbollah
26-11-2021, 12:30 PM
Italy’s last two results have been 1-1 at home against Switzerland and 0-0 at Windsor Park and James Richardson was saying they were lucky not to lose, NIreland were the better team. Sounds mad but the European champions might not be the worst draw for someone.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 12:32 PM
If we draw the Ukraine then apparently the final cannot be vs Russia (as fifa won't allow a Russia v Ukraine tie)

An absolute shambles.

It would make the chances of a final v italy or Portugal effectively 50/50

That's correct.

Diclonius
26-11-2021, 12:40 PM
Seeded teams in order of preference:
Wales :greengrin
Sweden :agree:
Russia :no way:
Portugal or Italy :brickwall

Unseeded:
North Macedonia :greengrin
Austria :agree:
Czech Republic :rolleyes:
Turkey or Ukraine :no way:
Poland :bitchy:

Draw will be Scotland v Poland, winner is away to winner of Italy v Ukraine.

Dr What If?
26-11-2021, 01:35 PM
Seeded teams in order of preference:
Wales :greengrin
Sweden :agree:
Russia :no way:
Portugal or Italy :brickwall

Unseeded:
North Macedonia :greengrin
Austria :agree:
Czech Republic :rolleyes:
Turkey or Ukraine :no way:
Poland :bitchy:

Draw will be Scotland v Poland, winner is away to winner of Italy v Ukraine.

.....and when we qualify from that everyone will think we are going to win the thing.....right up until we get humped by Iran in our opening match :greengrin

Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 02:36 PM
Seemingly in the final, it’s 1st out the hat who’s at home

CallumLaidlaw
26-11-2021, 02:37 PM
Seemingly in the final, it’s 1st out the hat who’s at home

I read there was a further draw to decide who the home team is in the final


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Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 02:38 PM
I read there was a further draw to decide who the home team is in the final


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So seeded teams don’t automatically get a home game
Don’t fancy Italy away in a final

Danderhall Hibs
26-11-2021, 02:41 PM
So seeded teams don’t automatically get a home game
Don’t fancy Italy away in a final

Seeded teams are only guaranteed a home semi - if it goes as per seedings it'll only be seeded teams in the finals so you can't guarantee home ties.

GreenNWhiteArmy
26-11-2021, 02:42 PM
Is it live anywhere?

Looks like it's only like on fifa.com

SFA has following info:

The draw will also determine who we could face in a potential final, should we be victorious in our semi-final match:

The winners of semi-final 1 will face the winners of semi-final 2.
The winners of semi-final 3 will face the winners of semi-final 4.
The winners of semi-final 5 will face the winners of semi-final 6.

In order to determine which of the semi-final winners will play at home in their finals, the following draw will be conducted:

Two balls with ‘semi-final 1’ and ‘semi-final 2’ will be placed in an empty pot. This first ball drawn will indicate the winners of which semi-final will play the final at home.

This will also apply for semi-finals 3&4 and 5&6.

Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 02:43 PM
Seeded teams are only guaranteed a home semi - if it goes as per seedings it'll only be seeded teams in the finals so you can't guarantee home ties.

Not sure what you mean?
Thought all 6 seeded teams were at home for the semi final?

Danderhall Hibs
26-11-2021, 02:45 PM
Not sure what you mean?
Thought all 6 seeded teams were at home for the semi final?

They are (that's what I said). But if all seeds win their semi they all can't be at home in the final.

greenlex
26-11-2021, 02:45 PM
Not sure what you mean?
Thought all 6 seeded teams were at home for the semi final?

They are but assuming all seeds get through they all can’t have a home fixture for their finals.

CallumLaidlaw
26-11-2021, 02:46 PM
Is it live anywhere?

Looks like it's only like on fifa.com

SFA has following info:

The draw will also determine who we could face in a potential final, should we be victorious in our semi-final match:

The winners of semi-final 1 will face the winners of semi-final 2.
The winners of semi-final 3 will face the winners of semi-final 4.
The winners of semi-final 5 will face the winners of semi-final 6.

In order to determine which of the semi-final winners will play at home in their finals, the following draw will be conducted:

Two balls with ‘semi-final 1’ and ‘semi-final 2’ will be placed in an empty pot. This first ball drawn will indicate the winners of which semi-final will play the final at home.

This will also apply for semi-finals 3&4 and 5&6.

https://www.fifa.com/news/karembeu-matthaus-mendes-zabaleta-discuss-european-and-intercontinental-play-off-draws


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JohnMcM
26-11-2021, 02:57 PM
Apparently on YouTube at 4pm.

Hope it’s ok to post this link.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uh912Q1AhCU

Moulin Yarns
26-11-2021, 02:59 PM
Apparently on YouTube at 4pm.

Hope it’s ok to post this link.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uh912Q1AhCU

As a back up

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/59406675

JXM73
26-11-2021, 03:05 PM
Strangely interested on this lol

Moulin Yarns
26-11-2021, 03:09 PM
Just get on with it!!

Moulin Yarns
26-11-2021, 03:12 PM
As a back up

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/59406675

BBC is ahead of the Sky Youtube channel

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:16 PM
Scotland out first - path A.

GreenCastle
26-11-2021, 03:16 PM
Scotland home..

SteveHFC
26-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Scotland home..

Wales home..

On same side of draw..

Home in the final please.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Wales the other seeded team in path A.

B.H.F.C
26-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Wales or an unseeded team in the final is as good as you could ask for.

Hope the semi draw is kind to us now.

Northernhibee
26-11-2021, 03:17 PM
Wales the other seeded team in path A.

That's OK.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:18 PM
Scotland home..

Yeah we're definitely at home for the semi anyway as we're seeded.

Hibs90
26-11-2021, 03:18 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/huJmPXfeir5JlpPAx0/200.gif

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:18 PM
Russia and Sweden the seeded teams in path B.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:19 PM
Italy and Portugal in path C.

Northernhibee
26-11-2021, 03:19 PM
Either Portugal or Italy will miss out on the world cup.

JeMeSouviens
26-11-2021, 03:19 PM
Do we really need a potted history with each team? :rolleyes:

JXM73
26-11-2021, 03:19 PM
Italy and Portugal in path C.

Ouch

Paul1642
26-11-2021, 03:20 PM
So far so good 🤞🏻

greenlex
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
If I’m reading the graphic right we are at home for both semi and the final. Win the semi and get either Wales or their opponents at Hampden in the final.

GreenCastle
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
Scotland v Ukraine

Wales v Austria

Paul1642
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
Ukraine. Tough

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
Scotland v Ukraine in the semis.

Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
Scotland v Ukraine

Wales v Austria

I’ll take that

Hibby Gav
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
Ukraine at home

Hibs90
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
Probably the best draw we could have got

Northernhibee
26-11-2021, 03:21 PM
Scotland vs Ukraine in the semi.

Will play Wales or Austria.

JXM73
26-11-2021, 03:22 PM
If I’m reading the graphic right we are at home fir both semi and the final. Win the semi and get either Wales or their opponents at Hampden.

Final not drawn yet for home/away

BroxburnHibee
26-11-2021, 03:22 PM
If I’m reading the graphic right we are at home fir both semi and the final. Win the semi and get either Wales or their opponents at Hampden.

Graphic is misleading Eck. Think there is a draw to decide home advantage

147lothian
26-11-2021, 03:22 PM
Scotland v Ukraine, the one I wanted to avoid

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:22 PM
Scotland v Ukraine in the semis.


If we win then we'll play Wales or Austria for a place in the World Cup.

Paul1642
26-11-2021, 03:22 PM
Probably the best draw we could have got

North macadonia would have been better but all thing considered it’s pretty decent

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:22 PM
If I’m reading the graphic right we are at home for both semi and the final. Win the semi and get either Wales or their opponents at Hampden in the final.

Not known yet.

SteveHFC
26-11-2021, 03:23 PM
Winnable

B.H.F.C
26-11-2021, 03:23 PM
Could have possibly got a slightly better semi final draw, but got to be happy with that.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:23 PM
Ok seems I'm miles behind other people so I'll stop now. :tee hee:

Northernhibee
26-11-2021, 03:24 PM
Good thing is that if we can beat Ukraine, we can beat Wales.

Since90+2
26-11-2021, 03:24 PM
Overall not the worst draw. If we progress then even if drawn away Wales or Austria are not exactly places we'd be massive underdogs at.

bringbackbenny
26-11-2021, 03:25 PM
lothar matthäus having trouble with his baws 😅

Diclonius
26-11-2021, 03:26 PM
Ukraine is the hardest team in the draw.

Can't wait to see how we **** it up. :wink:

Hiber-nation
26-11-2021, 03:26 PM
Could have been much better, but could have been worse. Not ideal but good to avoid Czechs and Poland I suppose.

Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 03:27 PM
Ukraine is the hardest team in the draw.

Can't wait to see how we **** it up. :wink:

I can’t see that, they only qualified 1 point ahead of Finland

Hiber-nation
26-11-2021, 03:27 PM
And we're away if we beat Ukraine.

Oscar T Grouch
26-11-2021, 03:27 PM
That is a pretty good draw for us. One of Italy and Portugal will be going out

Path a
Scotland vs Ukraine
Wales vs Austria

Path B
Russia vs Poland
Sweden vs Czech Rep

Path C
Italy vs N Macedonia
Portugal vs Turkey

Hibs90
26-11-2021, 03:27 PM
Away in final if we beat Ukraine.

Feel like it just got alot harder.

Magpie
26-11-2021, 03:27 PM
Wales v Ukraine in the Play off final is my guess

SteveHFC
26-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Away in final.

Brightside
26-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Ukraine are a funny team....dont generally win games by much and dont lose them by much. (Bar when they play England)

Paul1642
26-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Wales v Ukraine in the Play off final is my guess

Your a cheery one

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Probably the best draw we could have got

If you're going on current rankings it's the worst possible semi final draw we could have got.

greenlex
26-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Stupid graphic.:greengrin

Diclonius
26-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Scotland v Ukraine

Wales/Austria v Scotland

More than winnable.

JohnMcM
26-11-2021, 03:28 PM
Our women’s team play Ukraine tonight as well.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:29 PM
Scotland v Ukraine

Wales/Austria v Scotland

More than winnable.

It's possible but I won't be putting money on it.

A Hi-Bee
26-11-2021, 03:29 PM
Ukraine is the hardest team in the draw.

Can't wait to see how we **** it up. :wink:

It is a very tough draw, although Russia may go to war with them before we play.

GreenCastle
26-11-2021, 03:29 PM
Scotland play at Hampden against a strong Ukraine team.

If we beat Ukraine it's away to Wales or Austria.

Not easy but could have been so much worse.

Ukraine game massive - at least get a shot of that final game.

Since90+2
26-11-2021, 03:31 PM
Ultimately we avoided Italy and Portugal which was the most important thing.

If we were away to Ukraine I'd say we'd have no chance. At Hampden it's 5050.

Don't have any fear about going away to Wales and we've already beaten Austria.

Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 03:31 PM
If you're going on current rankings it's the worst possible semi final draw we could have got.

Possibly but their ranking is going down
We’ve just beaten a top 10 team in the last game

we are hibs
26-11-2021, 03:32 PM
We are more than capable of getting through that section. Ukraine is the most difficult team in the section.

Serbia away was more daunting than the prospect of Wales/Austria (who we just beat away) in the final

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Just_Jimmy
26-11-2021, 03:33 PM
Really gutted we got drawn away in the final, a home draw changes that complexion totally and the fans deserve something huge.

Hopefully we'll beat Ukraine, big ask but do able at hampden then it's see what happens

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Hibiza
26-11-2021, 03:33 PM
That's a great draw .

Bishop Hibee
26-11-2021, 03:33 PM
Both ties are winnable. Could’ve been a lot tougher. Bring it on 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 🏆

90274
26-11-2021, 03:34 PM
Macedonia in the semi then Wales in the final at Hampden :aok:

Almost right 👍

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:36 PM
Possibly but their ranking is going down
We’ve just beaten a top 10 team in the last game

Ukraine's ranking just went up by one place last week.

The 90+2
26-11-2021, 03:36 PM
Austria on penalties to qualify.

DIXIHIBS
26-11-2021, 03:38 PM
Good draw. Avoided potential final away to russia, italy/Portugal when we would be really struggling. Ukraine tough but winnable.

erin go bragh
26-11-2021, 03:39 PM
If you're going on current rankings it's the worst possible semi final draw we could have got.

We just beat the team ranked in 9th at Hampden
Packed Hampden and Ukraine will be put to the sword.
Looking at the wee semifinal chart I got sent , it looks like we will be at home in the final but folk saying we will be away 🤨

Billy Whizz
26-11-2021, 03:40 PM
Ukraine's ranking just went up by one place last week.

Oops I clicked on Uruguay😳

DIXIHIBS
26-11-2021, 03:40 PM
We just beat the team ranked in 9th at Hampden
Packed Hampden and Ukraine will be put to the sword.
Looking at the wee semifinal chart I got sent , it looks like we will be at home in the final but folk saying we will be away 🤨

We are away.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 03:42 PM
We just beat the team ranked in 9th at Hampden
Packed Hampden and Ukraine will be put to the sword.
Looking at the wee semifinal chart I got sent , it looks like we will be at home in the final but folk saying we will be away 🤨

We would be away in the final.

SteveHFC
26-11-2021, 03:43 PM
We will need to make it 8 wins in a row to get to world Cup, that would be some achievement

,

Northernhibee
26-11-2021, 03:44 PM
We will need to make it 8 wins in a row to get to world Cup, that would be some achievement

,

Forget that, is it fifteen or sixteen to win the thing? :hyper

Jones28
26-11-2021, 03:49 PM
I’d love to play Wales.

Dr What If?
26-11-2021, 03:49 PM
Ukraine's ranking just went up by one place last week.

Scotland's went up by 4 :agree:

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 04:04 PM
Scotland's went up by 4 :agree:

Yes it did but Ukraine still sit 13 places above us.

JimBHibees
26-11-2021, 04:06 PM
Excellent draw all things considered. Think we will get to the final thought Ukraine were awful v England in the Euros and a final even away to Wales or Austria is tough but winnable.

wookie70
26-11-2021, 04:10 PM
Decent draw for us and Wales.

Greenbeard
26-11-2021, 04:14 PM
I’d love to play Wales.
Fingers crossed the Millenium Stadium is booked out already for rugby or a dog show or something and we get a rerun of Anfield 1977.
"There's Kenny Dalglish in there. Oh yes. That does it!"

Newry Hibs
26-11-2021, 04:15 PM
Wales will probably move the final against us to anfield anyway. :)

CMurdoch
26-11-2021, 04:17 PM
Sweden or Russia at home would be winnable I think. There is no way in my cynical opinion that Portugal and Italy will be drawn together so every chance we will need to beat one of them

Jim ya big cynic :wink:

Glory Lurker
26-11-2021, 04:19 PM
Wales play their games in Swansea's ground, or Cardiff City's, these days?

WeeRussell
26-11-2021, 04:22 PM
Wales play their games in Swansea's ground, or Cardiff City's, these days?

I think they’ve been playing them at Cardiff city recently aye

Paul1642
26-11-2021, 04:36 PM
Ukraine form in qualifying is nothing to be scared of

Bristolhibby
26-11-2021, 04:57 PM
We just beat the team ranked in 9th at Hampden
Packed Hampden and Ukraine will be put to the sword.
Looking at the wee semifinal chart I got sent , it looks like we will be at home in the final but folk saying we will be away 🤨

Definitely away in the final (like last time).

Cardiff or Vienna for the final.

Would have much preferred Hampden. Annoyingly I assumed as we were first out we had the home tie, then Theo threw in the draw for home final afterwards.

J

Bristolhibby
26-11-2021, 04:58 PM
We will need to make it 8 wins in a row to get to world Cup, that would be some achievement

,

Or two draws with penalties (like last time).

J

CMurdoch
26-11-2021, 05:04 PM
Ukraine form in qualifying is nothing to be scared of

They drew home and away with France

JimBHibees
26-11-2021, 05:17 PM
They drew home and away with France

Yeah but apart from that. :greengrin

JimBHibees
26-11-2021, 05:18 PM
I think they’ve been playing them at Cardiff city recently aye

Wonder if they would consider playing at Millenium stadium. Atmosphere would be amazing.

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 05:41 PM
Wonder if they would consider playing at Millenium stadium. Atmosphere would be amazing.

5 Live spoke to Nathan Blake tonight and they asked him that but he reckons Wales will prefer to play at the Cardiff City Stadium as it's smaller and they'll get a better atmosphere.

He also didn't fancy the idea of more Scotland fans being able to go to the Millennium Stadium if they did play Scotland in the final and it was moved there.

houstonhibbee
26-11-2021, 05:48 PM
Yes it did but Ukraine still sit 13 places above us.
Ukraine only one two games in their group and drew home and away with the bottom team Kazakhstan
nothing to be fearful of then

JimBHibees
26-11-2021, 05:48 PM
5 Live spoke to Nathan Blake tonight and they asked him that but he reckons Wales will prefer to play at the Cardiff City Stadium as it's smaller and they'll get a better atmosphere.

He also didn't fancy the idea of more Scotland fans being able to go to the Millennium Stadium if they did play Scotland in the final and it was moved there.

Yes thought that might be the case and to be fair probably right from their perspective just think Millenium is an amazing stadium.

CMurdoch
26-11-2021, 05:55 PM
The tale of the tape for the Semi Final
Ukraine Population 45 million, Scotland population 5.5 million

Ukraine Ranked 25 in the Fifa rankings which is 13 places above Scotland

Scotland ranked 9 in the UEFA club coefficient predominately on the back of the performances of the Old Firm
Ukraine ranked 11 in the UEFA club coefficient predominately on the back of the performances of Dynamo Kiev & Shakhtar Donetsk

In the last 23 man Ukraine national squad 13 players were from Dynamo Kiev and Shakhtar Donetsk plus 2 other domestic players
The other 8 are playing in Italy, England, Portugal, Belgium, Czech Republic, Hungary but they have no big stars despite their massive population.

The countries have met twice before resulting in one win apiece

cabbageandribs1875
26-11-2021, 06:38 PM
Scotland women v Ukraine woman just started on Alba, WC qualifier :agree: hopefully part 1 of doing the double against them

Potty78
26-11-2021, 06:52 PM
Almost a perfect draw, think we'll beat Ukraine at home, think I'd rather play Austria away again though. Just cant believe Italy and Portugal ended up in same half of draw

Hibee Mac
26-11-2021, 06:57 PM
I don't understand why people are making out as if Ukraine are a really difficult draw, we've ended up with probably the best draw for the final we could have hoped for.

By all means it's not anything close to an easy game, but no world cup play off will be, have some confidence!!

Jim44
26-11-2021, 07:03 PM
Scotland women v Ukraine woman just started on Alba, WC qualifier :agree: hopefully part 1 of doing the double against them

0-1 Ukraine. Shocking defending from Scotland, particularly no. 5.

Pretty Boy
26-11-2021, 07:11 PM
Ukraine look a weird one.

Some of their results this year look very decent and then others look pretty poor. Draws v France, Czech Republic and beating Sweden are undeniably impressive. Draws with Kazakhstan, Bahrain and Bosnia and a defeat to Austria? Not so much.

cabbageandribs1875
26-11-2021, 07:18 PM
0-1 Ukraine. Shocking defending from Scotland, particularly no. 5.


i've missed a good bit of it, i've really not been hugely impressed the last few games to be honest, hence i asked for shelly kerr to come back a few games back :greengrin

if Ukraraine win this they would go 3 points behind Scotland with a game in hand, Spain will win the group


still time though, at least one poor miss from Abi Harrison, ex hibs

HT

Broken Gnome
26-11-2021, 07:20 PM
Any Scotland team could easily lose the Ukraine tie and any combination of the final, but hopefully THIS team takes us up to a 50/50 shot at least.

Saw someone say that if you want to qualify for a World Cup it's exactly the sort of task you should be capable of passing. That's it - we've been given a tough but nowhere near insurmountable shot at it, hoping for much better was chancing our arm.

007
26-11-2021, 07:20 PM
0-1 Ukraine. Shocking defending from Scotland, particularly no. 5.

Looked like she was towing a caravan.

cabbageandribs1875
26-11-2021, 07:38 PM
Beattie subbed at HT, the No 5



goal coming surely


how on earth can the referee give a foul to ukraine there, not just male refs huh

Sir David Gray
26-11-2021, 08:46 PM
I don't understand why people are making out as if Ukraine are a really difficult draw, we've ended up with probably the best draw for the final we could have hoped for.

By all means it's not anything close to an easy game, but no world cup play off will be, have some confidence!!

Ukraine are the highest ranked unseeded team in the draw.

Ukraine - 25
Poland - 27
Austria - 30
Czech Republic - 31
Turkey - 37
North Macedonia - 67

Don't get me wrong Scotland's capable of winning this one, especially at Hampden but it could definitely have been better.

Should we win against Ukraine then a final v Wales or Austria for a place at the World Cup is decent.

davhibby
27-11-2021, 11:50 AM
They drew home and away with France

They also drew with Kazakhstan and couldn’t beat Bosnia. They were very poor at the Euros and lost to Austria too. Poland and Turkey were the unseeded teams to avoid, the rest were all worse than us by a distance

Since90+2
27-11-2021, 12:21 PM
They also drew with Kazakhstan and couldn’t beat Bosnia. They were very poor at the Euros and lost to Austria too. Poland and Turkey were the unseeded teams to avoid, the rest were all worse than us by a distance

Not sure you can say the Czechs are worse than us by a distance considering they beat us at Hampden in the Euros.

Sir David Gray
27-11-2021, 12:54 PM
They also drew with Kazakhstan and couldn’t beat Bosnia. They were very poor at the Euros and lost to Austria too. Poland and Turkey were the unseeded teams to avoid, the rest were all worse than us by a distance

Not according to Fifa.

We're the second lowest ranked side in the play offs.