Suspensions - Boyle and Doidge

[BegbieHSC]

Am I right in thinking that they’ll miss both the St Johnstone and Hun games?

Absolute ****** disaster if so.

What a rollercoaster ride this club we love takes us on.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Boyle at least will 'just' be St Johnstone i think

[BegbieHSC]

Boyle at least will 'just' be St Johnstone i think

I suppose that’s a slight relief then.

St Johnstone seem to have found a way of marshalling Boyle better than most teams in the country, so it’s a rare fixture in which he won’t be missed considerably. Can’t say I’m optimistic..,

[Sean1875]

Boyle at least will 'just' be St Johnstone i think

Is it not a 2 game ban for a straight red?


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[California-Hibs]

Looking for someone to confirm this. Losing Boyle in particular for the game against Rangers at Easter Road under the lights would be an absolute hammer blow

[kev1875]

Looking for someone to confirm this. Losing Boyle in particular for the game against Rangers at Easter Road under the lights would be an absolute hammer blow

Abusive language and gestures are 1 game according to this:

https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/1849/suspensions-for-players-in-mens-football-annex-c-section-4.pdf

[Jones28]

****ing idiots the pair of them.

[Sir David Gray]

Is it not a 2 game ban for a straight red?


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Boyle was sent off for foul and abusive language which comes with a 1 match ban.

Doidge was sent off for violent conduct which is 2 games.

[Northernhibee]

****ing idiots the pair of them.

Yep, Doidge was bad enough but Martin Boyle was absolutely moronic. What the **** did he think he was going to achieve?

[Sean1875]

Boyle was sent off for foul and abusive language which comes with a 1 match ban.

Doidge was sent off for violent conduct which is 2 games.

Cheers, I stand corrected. Very very minor relief then.


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[A Hi-Bee]

Yep, Doidge was bad enough but Martin Boyle was absolutely moronic. What the **** did he think he was going to achieve?

The amount of brutal abuse he put up with all game from them hammer throwers he should have just nutted the hun ref and then walked off.

[CMurdoch]

****ing idiots the pair of them.

Boyle was way beyond stupid.
One of his teammates should have gagged him and dragged him away when he started with that suicide mission.

[Glory Lurker]

Not trying to excuse Boyle, but the dissent rule seems a mess to me. Dissent is surely just that. Talking back of any form. That was surrendered generations back and we’re left in a situation where swearing at a ref is bookable or not depending on how bad the ref receives it as.

For what it’s worth, I’d like to see football be like rugby where there is a universally-understood line you don’t cross.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Boyle was way beyond stupid.
One of his teammates should have gagged him and dragged him away when he started with that suicide mission.

It was terrible - Hanlon was trying to get others away so he could do his bit and Boyle appeared from nowhere.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Not trying to excuse Boyle, but the dissent rule seems a mess to me. Dissent is surely just that. Talking back of any form. That was surrendered generations back and we’re left in a situation where swearing at a ref is bookable or not depending on how bad the ref receives it as.

For what it’s worth, I’d like to see football be like rugby where there is a universally-understood line you don’t cross.

He must’ve questioned his integrity / called him a cheat. You don’t get a straight red for swearing do you?

[A Hi-Bee]

He must’ve questioned his integrity / called him a cheat. You don’t get a straight red for swearing do you?

Then why was he sent off for telling the truth, he is a cheating hun bassa.

[Glory Lurker]

He must’ve questioned his integrity / called him a cheat. You don’t get a straight red for swearing do you?

No. Didn’t know it was a straight red.

It gets daft when there is a question of what is acceptable, non-yellow, dissent and what deserves a yellow but not a red. That’s not the referees’ fault, it’s down to the game allowing players to behave in a way that other team sports wouldn’t tolerate in the first place.

[Sir David Gray]

He must’ve questioned his integrity / called him a cheat. You don’t get a straight red for swearing do you?

Swearing is supposed to be a sending off but it rarely is.

[The 90+2]

**** was Doidge playing at?
Boyle I can see his frustration because the red was ****ing **** and every single ball in the box was a foul for them.

[The 90+2]

Swearing is supposed to be a sending off but it rarely is.

The mood it looked like the ref was in from the start it doesn’t surprise me.

[Nicho87]

Scott Allan still won’t make the eleven

What I don’t get about Allan he was back in the team, got hooked at ibrox after the red card never been seen again. When he was actually providing goals and assist.

Another rossism

[Eyrie]

**** was Doidge playing at?
Boyle I can see his frustration because the red was ****ing **** and every single ball in the box was a foul for them.

I don't think the referee was as good as that. Probably his highlight was ignoring Hanlon's shirt being hauled half off because the alternative was to give us an obvious penalty.

[The 90+2]

I don't think the referee was as good as that. Probably his highlight was ignoring Hanlon's shirt being hauled half off because the alternative was to give us an obvious penalty.

Then 30 secs later same again. Ridiculous.

[jeffers]

Scott Allan still won’t make the eleven

What I don’t get about Allan he was back in the team, got hooked at ibrox after the red card never been seen again. When he was actually providing goals and assist.

Another rossism

He seems to be held to a different standard from other players, who are allowed consecutive poor games but start the following ones. As disappointing as I find it I’ve come to accept he no longer has a future with us.

[Nicho87]

He seems to be held to a different standard from other players, who are allowed consecutive poor games but start the following ones. As disappointing as I find it I’ve come to accept he no longer has a future with us.

Agree. Sadly

[California-Hibs]

Cheers, I stand corrected. Very very minor relief then.


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Its a huge relief having Boyle against Rangers and us being able to field the exact same team that humped them. Hibs without Boyle are a completely different animal. Stupid tonight but thank **** it's only 1 game for him!

[MWHIBBIES]

Not trying to excuse Boyle, but the dissent rule seems a mess to me. Dissent is surely just that. Talking back of any form. That was surrendered generations back and we’re left in a situation where swearing at a ref is bookable or not depending on how bad the ref receives it as.

For what it’s worth, I’d like to see football be like rugby where there is a universally-understood line you don’t cross.

I'd like to see awful refs told they are awful and held accountable for their awful decisions changing matches, seasons and careers. The idea that a ref deserves some kind of unwavering respect is laughable. They're all *****.

[Brightside]

Swearing is supposed to be a sending off but it rarely is.

You do in youth football but somehow it’s then just up to refs in senior football and they the only send off if it’s detected at the ref personally. Boyle claims he was swearing at the refs performance not the ref himself. It’s one of the daftest excuses I’ve heard. His captain was already there ensuring the referee was clear in our club’s disappointment in his performance. There is nothing to gain from Boyle running in swearing his head off.

[H18 SFR]

For me the most annoying thing is the referee was the official who told Heckingbottom to **** off when he was a fourth official causing Hecky to go public with it.

Seems it’s ok for him to tell someone to **** off but not the other way around.

[JimBHibees]

He must’ve questioned his integrity / called him a cheat. You don’t get a straight red for swearing do you?

Depends who you are and what strip you are wearing.

[we are hibs]

He seems to be held to a different standard from other players, who are allowed consecutive poor games but start the following ones. As disappointing as I find it I’ve come to accept he no longer has a future with us.100% agree. He had 1 bad 45 v Dundee utd (like most of his team mates) and that seems to be that. Doesnt get unlimited opportunities like others.


As for Boyle im more inclined to give him a bit of slack. Hes been our best player this season by a distance and had a daft moment at the end of the game. Its not as if hes at it every game and renowned for being ill-disciplined.

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[JimBHibees]

For me the most annoying thing is the referee was the official who told Heckingbottom to **** off when he was a fourth official causing Hecky to go public with it.

Seems it’s ok for him to tell someone to **** off but not the other way around.

Interesting didn't know that. Explains his performance last night.

[JimBHibees]

100% agree. He had 1 bad 45 v Dundee utd (like most of his team mates) and that seems to be that. Doesnt get unlimited opportunities like others.


As for Boyle im more inclined to give him a bit of slack. Hes been our best player this season by a distance and had a daft moment at the end of the game. Its not as if hes at it every game and renowned for being ill-disciplined.

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Bottom line is with Allan he hasn't been great and doesn't look particularly sharp including last night. Campbell obviously impressed the manager much more than him as shown on Sunday.

[CentreLine]

He seems to be held to a different standard from other players, who are allowed consecutive poor games but start the following ones. As disappointing as I find it I’ve come to accept he no longer has a future with us.

Of course Scott Allan is held to different standards, he is a player with specific health issues and the club, Jack Ross specifically, will be taking great care of him as his conditions ebb and flow.

[B.H.F.C]

For me the most annoying thing is the referee was the official who told Heckingbottom to **** off when he was a fourth official causing Hecky to go public with it.

Seems it’s ok for him to tell someone to **** off but not the other way around.

Interesting that. Talking about the refs performance on the way down the road and I mentioned it wasn’t just his decisions that were crap, his manner and the way he dealt with the players was as well. He was one of them who seemed to quite like shouting at them and generally seemed to piss everyone off.

[Greenbeard]

Not trying to excuse Boyle, but the dissent rule seems a mess to me. Dissent is surely just that. Talking back of any form. That was surrendered generations back and we’re left in a situation where swearing at a ref is bookable or not depending on how bad the ref receives it as.

For what it’s worth, I’d like to see football be like rugby where there is a universally-understood line you don’t cross.

If a rugby player had done what Boyle did, irrespective of whether he swore or not, but just simply for his "in your face" finger pointing criticism, he'd be looking at a minimum 6 weeks suspension rising to a year!
A player must not verbally abuse a Match Official. Verbal abuse includes, but is not limited to,abuse based on: religion, colour, national or ethnic origin, sexual orientation.Low-end:6 weeks/matches to 12 weeks/matches; Mid-range:18+ weeks/matches; Max:52 weeks/matches.

Scottish football would run out of players within a week.

[cabbageandribs1875]

are there any twitter/youtube clips of what Boyle did, i totally missed it

[Greenbeard]

are there any twitter/youtube clips of what Boyle did, i totally missed it
Hibs tv highlights and BBC highlights both include it.

[B.H.F.C]

Bottom line is with Allan he hasn't been great and doesn't look particularly sharp including last night. Campbell obviously impressed the manager much more than him as shown on Sunday.

Allan can’t be sharp when he hardly gets any minutes on the park. When he did get a wee run he was contributing.

Second half last night was crying out for someone who could do something a bit different. We were doing nothing in the final third and the game was drifting along until they scored. It was a reactive sub to chase the game rather than trying to make a proactive one to win the game. Campbell did a specific job at the weekend but I’ve not seen anything to suggest that he’s going to be the creative type (so he’ll probably fit in quite well with this team).

[500miles]

There could be a silver lining where no Boyle forces us into a total change of system which could catch St Johnstone off guard.

FWIW I thought we were fine last night, but Nisbet's finishing really let us down, and it seemed we were punished by the ref for every ball into the box.

[SON OF PADDY]

100% agree. He had 1 bad 45 v Dundee utd (like most of his team mates) and that seems to be that. Doesnt get unlimited opportunities like others.


As for Boyle im more inclined to give him a bit of slack. Hes been our best player this season by a distance and had a daft moment at the end of the game. Its not as if hes at it every game and renowned for being ill-disciplined.

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I'm with you on this one, Boyle must be one of the league's most fouled players.
Yet he just gets up and gets on with the game, no wonder he gets f#cking pissed off with these inconsistent ref's !

[jeffers]

Of course Scott Allan is held to different standards, he is a player with specific health issues and the club, Jack Ross specifically, will be taking great care of him as his conditions ebb and flow.

C’mon you really can’t believe he’s getting 15 minutes here and there because Jack Ross is protecting him. He’s getting so little time because Ross prefers others over him, evidenced by the fact he tried to offload him in the summer window. It’s clear he wants a midfield of workers with no flair or cutting edge over someone who can cut the opposition open, but isn’t great defensively and may lose possession.

I’m really disappointed that Ross prefers Josh Campbell over Scott Allan, but as I said earlier I’ve come to accept his career at Hibs is effectively over.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Hibs tv highlights and BBC highlights both include it.

thanks will have a look later



although not prolific Gavin Duncan does like that red card a little Gavin Duncan Football Referee (football-lineups.com) (https://www.football-lineups.com/referee/3621/)

[Keith_M]

There could be a silver lining where no Boyle forces us into a total change of system which could catch St Johnstone off guard.

FWIW I thought we were fine last night, but Nisbet's finishing really let us down, and it seemed we were punished by the ref for every ball into the box.


I'd like to see that but the sad fact is that without Boyle, we're pretty toothless and predictable.

We'll have Nisbet, who hasn't scored in months and.... well that's about it.

[Northernhibee]

I've seen very little from Scott Allan this season (perhaps understandably) to see how he should be starting games or getting significant game time.

It sounds very harsh and cruel considering what he's been through, but I don't think he's of the required standard any longer.

[B.H.F.C]

I've seen very little from Scott Allan this season (perhaps understandably) to see how he should be starting games or getting significant game time.

It sounds very harsh and cruel considering what he's been through, but I don't think he's of the required standard any longer.

He’s contributed when he’s got on the pitch. One goal and four assists in 434 minutes of football isn’t bad going.

[JimBHibees]

I'm with you on this one, Boyle must be one of the league's most fouled players.
Yet he just gets up and gets on with the game, no wonder he gets f#cking pissed off with these inconsistent ref's !

Absolutely especially when he is rotationally hacked down. Personally thought Randall's hack down his Achilles could have been red as imo was meant to injure. Horrible tackle and Boyler gets them every game with little protection