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St.Kristopher
23-11-2021, 11:12 PM
So our allocation has been cut. Doncaster has stated we will get more if we sell out. So let’s do it and do it fast. I often see gigs and events supposedly selling in less than 30mins. If we can do likewise, it makes a mockery of the decision…if we don’t (despite the sporting integrity stuff), it simply plays into the leagues narrative and decision making.

Ron asked on the Strong Opinion Hibs pod for fans to attend; let’s give him his wish. He has pony upped for us. Let’s do the same for him.

007
23-11-2021, 11:15 PM
So our allocation has been cut. Doncaster has stated we will get more if we sell out. So let’s do it and do it fast. I often see gigs and events supposedly selling in less than 30mins. If we can do likewise, it makes a mockery of the decision…if we don’t (despite the sporting integrity stuff), it simply plays into the leagues narrative and decision making.

Ron asked on the Strong Opinion Hibs pod for fans to attend; let’s give him his wish. He has pony upped for us. Let’s do the same for him.

Doncaster hasn't said how many more, it will probably be a couple of hundred.

St.Kristopher
23-11-2021, 11:29 PM
Yup...lets sell out though.

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 12:56 AM
So our allocation has been cut. Doncaster has stated we will get more if we sell out. So let’s do it and do it fast. I often see gigs and events supposedly selling in less than 30mins. If we can do likewise, it makes a mockery of the decision…if we don’t (despite the sporting integrity stuff), it simply plays into the leagues narrative and decision making.

Ron asked on the Strong Opinion Hibs pod for fans to attend; let’s give him his wish. He has pony upped for us. Let’s do the same for him.


I don't think theres any danger of us not selling out. If its 2 per season ticket holder (which has been suggested it may be on here but not confirmed) then we will likely sell these out on the first day of sales and if not then the second day.

HH81
24-11-2021, 04:08 AM
I don't think theres any danger of us not selling out. If its 2 per season ticket holder (which has been suggested it may be on here but not confirmed) then we will likely sell these out on the first day of sales and if not then the second day.

They can't have 2 per season ticket holder as the allocation is not big enough for everyone to get two?

Since452
24-11-2021, 05:19 AM
17500 tickets? I think it'll be more a case of people missing out than us not selling out!

green day
24-11-2021, 05:33 AM
I don't think theres any danger of us not selling out. If its 2 per season ticket holder (which has been suggested it may be on here but not confirmed) then we will likely sell these out on the first day of sales and if not then the second day.

That is impossible due to our ST numbers.

On present ticket allocation, it is 1 per ST and the remainder on public sale.

GreenCastle
24-11-2021, 06:30 AM
Would they guarantee x1 per ST holder then have a ballot if ST holders wanted x2 tickets ?

Plus not every ST holder would want x2 tickets.

Potty78
24-11-2021, 06:39 AM
Would they guarantee x1 per ST holder then have a ballot if ST holders wanted x2 tickets ?

Plus not every ST holder would want x2 tickets.

Meaning some who went sunday may miss out? One per season ticket and then a public sale is the fair way

Jones28
24-11-2021, 06:40 AM
This is the first time I’m genuinely concerned about not getting a ticket. Thanks Neil.

Lee Marvin
24-11-2021, 06:41 AM
Season ticket x 1 then public sale/ballot is only way to do this.

Unfortunately so many regular attendees (this season and historic) are going to miss out.

It's an absolute disgrace

Edit: maybe you could do those who have bought a ticket to ER this season first?? (I have a season ticket btw)

TamHibs
24-11-2021, 06:51 AM
It’s two per season ticket


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JimBHibees
24-11-2021, 06:55 AM
It’s two per season ticket


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How can it be season ticket holders will miss out?

TamHibs
24-11-2021, 06:56 AM
How can it be season ticket holders will miss out?

Announcement from the club should be today or tomorrow but it’s 100% two per season ticket


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JimBHibees
24-11-2021, 06:57 AM
Announcement from the club should be today or tomorrow but it’s 100% two per season ticket


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Huge own goal from the club then

Lee Marvin
24-11-2021, 07:00 AM
How can it possibly be two per season ticket? That means actual season ticket holders will miss out if they are not quick off the mark.

FilipinoHibs
24-11-2021, 07:04 AM
How can it possibly be two per season ticket? That means actual season ticket holders will miss out if they are not quick off the mark.

One per season ticket holder, then one per non season ticket holder who attended on Sunday. Any left then public sale.

green day
24-11-2021, 07:06 AM
Announcement from the club should be today or tomorrow but it’s 100% two per season ticket


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We have been allocated 17500 tickets.

We have 11000 ST holders

2 x STs is 22000

While I wont disagree with your confidence in this announcement, just how does that arithmetic add up?

TamHibs
24-11-2021, 07:09 AM
We have been allocated 17500 tickets.

We have 11000 ST holders

2 x STs is 22000

While I wont disagree with your confidence in this announcement, just how does that arithmetic add up?

I don’t know the ins and outs of the thinking behind the decision, I just know it’ll be two per ST

Our away season ticket payments are getting taken today and the club usually make the announcements for the season ticket holder sales the same day/day after


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Gloucester Hibs
24-11-2021, 07:12 AM
We have been allocated 17500 tickets.

We have 11000 ST holders

2 x STs is 22000

While I wont disagree with your confidence in this announcement, just how does that arithmetic add up?

Not every ST will take a ticket, and not all of those that do will take 2 tickets. I think we'd be safe enough promising each ST holder 2 tickets but I still think it'll be 1 per ST holder.

Billy Whizz
24-11-2021, 07:12 AM
I don’t know the ins and outs of the thinking behind the decision, I just know it’ll be two per ST

Our away season ticket payments are getting taken today and the club usually make the announcements for the season ticket holder sales the same day/day after


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Why were AST not allowed 2 as well Tam, we were told we weren’t allowed to even add a season ticket holder to our tickets

TamHibs
24-11-2021, 07:14 AM
Why were AST not allowed 2 as well Tam, we were told we weren’t allowed to even add a season ticket holder to our tickets

I think that’s more to do with how the AST scheme works, we weren’t allowed to add anyone for the semi final either.

Basically when the ST holder sale starts I’ll still be able to buy one more ticket if I wanted it as one will already be used in the AST


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Onceinawhile
24-11-2021, 07:18 AM
Not every ST will take a ticket, and not all of those that do will take 2 tickets. I think we'd be safe enough promising each ST holder 2 tickets but I still think it'll be 1 per ST holder.

But if 7,000 take up two tickets, that leaves 3,500 tickets for 4,000 season ticket holders.

Gloucester Hibs
24-11-2021, 07:22 AM
But if 7,000 take up two tickets, that leaves 3,500 tickets for 4,000 season ticket holders.

I'm thinking if Hibs are doing this they will have good data on cup final ticket uptake for ST holders to have arrived at this decision. Like I said though I still think it'll be 1 per ST.

Lee Marvin
24-11-2021, 07:22 AM
It's not going to be 2 per season ticket. It literally makes zero sense.

Slim Shady
24-11-2021, 07:23 AM
If it is two per season ticket this is a major balls up on commercial dept of the club.

1 per current season ticket then anyone buying a Half Season ticket should then be eligible for a ticket.

Sell as many ST as possible.

Brightside
24-11-2021, 07:25 AM
I’ll personally be very happy with that. But it makes no sense at all and I will fully understand the rage that will follow.

green day
24-11-2021, 07:32 AM
I’ll personally be very happy with that. But it makes no sense at all and I will fully understand the rage that will follow.

What if you dont get a ticket because another ST holder has bought two?

Mikey_1875
24-11-2021, 07:39 AM
Couldn’t see any logic for having 2 tickets each for STs unless they are trying to make some sort of point to Doncaster about how quickly we can sell out 17500.

I think they would be ok numbers wise in terms of all STs getting a ticket but certainly cutting it a bit fine. It would put the walk up who doesn’t know any ST holders in a terrible position. Maybe the club will market it as some sort of thank you for buying an ST last season without seeing a game.

Either way if it’s true it seems an unnecessary gamble and will be leaving a lot of supporters peed off and other ST holders needlessly worried until they have their ticket secured.

Keith_M
24-11-2021, 07:39 AM
I don't think theres any danger of us not selling out. If its 2 per season ticket holder (which has been suggested it may be on here but not confirmed) then we will likely sell these out on the first day of sales and if not then the second day.


11,000 season tickets holders; two each

17,500 tickets available


Can you see the problem?

evy
24-11-2021, 07:41 AM
2 things I think about this.

1 - Hibs will have solid historical data on what % of STs take-up the 2 tickets.

2 - If it sells out without every ST getting a ticket, it plays perfectly into the unfair ticket split by the SPFL.

Jones28
24-11-2021, 07:41 AM
It’s two per season ticket


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It’s mathematically impossible to get that number of fans in to the stadium.

Jones28
24-11-2021, 07:43 AM
2 things I think about this.

1 - Hibs will have solid historical data on what % of STs take-up the 2 tickets.

2 - If it sells out without every ST getting a ticket, it plays perfectly into the unfair ticket split by the SPFL.

If Hibs do make it two per ST and people miss out it will be an own goal by the club. There’s no argument around that.

Greenbeard
24-11-2021, 07:54 AM
11,000 season tickets holders; two each

17,500 tickets available


Can you see the problem?
Easy solution though.
ST holders get the chance to buy two tickets until 11,000 tickets have been sold. Thereafter ST holders can only buy one. When deadline date passes, what is left goes on publlc sale, so the slow-to-react ST holders get their chance to buy a second ticket.
Ideally, those who attended the SF would get priority over those who have attended a few matches at ER this season who in turn would get priority over folk who have not been to a game at all this season, but how many priorities and deadlines can you have?

evy
24-11-2021, 07:55 AM
If Hibs do make it two per ST and people miss out it will be an own goal by the club. There’s no argument around that.

I don't disagree, but it will play into the narrative of it being unfair. Hibs need to balance appeasing everyone whilst standing firm that the quantity of tickets allocated isn't enough.

We wouldn't be having this conversation if we got a 50/50 split...

Jones28
24-11-2021, 07:57 AM
I don't disagree, but it will play into the narrative of it being unfair. Hibs need to balance appeasing everyone whilst standing firm that the quantity of tickets allocated isn't enough.

We wouldn't be having this conversation if we got a 50/50 split...

No you’re right, we wouldn’t. I just don’t think the club would risk upsetting season ticket holders by making a decision that wouldn’t guarantee them a ticket. If I was a season ticket holder and not guaranteed a seat at a national final I’d be pissed off, and it contradicts the policies the club has had in place for as long as I can remember.

evy
24-11-2021, 08:02 AM
No you’re right, we wouldn’t. I just don’t think the club would risk upsetting season ticket holders by making a decision that wouldn’t guarantee them a ticket. If I was a season ticket holder and not guaranteed a seat at a national final I’d be pissed off, and it contradicts the policies the club has had in place for as long as I can remember.

Just had a though, could be that the poster saying it'll be 2 due to their AST is just that. They're guaranteed 1 as an ST and another as an AST. Just trying to work out why or how it'd be the case.

Pagan Hibernia
24-11-2021, 08:04 AM
Any chance of a Black Friday deal on season tickets? :greengrin

Northernhibee
24-11-2021, 08:06 AM
I can’t remember the last time we failed to sell 50% of Hampden for a cup final, this should be easy.

GreenCastle
24-11-2021, 08:15 AM
I have a feeling they will continue to push the importance of a ST holder. They maybe thinking ahead to next year and making it clear ST holders give best chance to attend higher profile games.

Every ST holder is guaranteed a ticket = everyone who has a ST happy and AST is happy.

But then if you are a ST / AST and want another ticket you go into a ballot and see if you get one possibly.

I still feel folk who attended semi final should get a chance to buy tickets also for this.

Club reward points system anyone? !!

If they wanted to be really controversial they could offer x2 for Gold ST holders and x1 for silver and Bronze ST holders.

hibee-boys
24-11-2021, 08:16 AM
I think and expect it to be 1 per season ticket but there will be a number of season ticket holders who can’t/won’t go and not all will purchase 2 tickets. Where I do see the problem is season ticket holders missing out on the preferred seats if they go with 2 per season ticket.

Brightside
24-11-2021, 08:17 AM
What if you dont get a ticket because another ST holder has bought two?

I’ll be quick. 😂. As I say I think it’s a mental decision. Lots of people that went to the semi will prob miss out.

JimBHibees
24-11-2021, 08:18 AM
If it is two per season ticket this is a major balls up on commercial dept of the club.

1 per current season ticket then anyone buying a Half Season ticket should then be eligible for a ticket.

Sell as many ST as possible.

You would that would make more sense to tie half seasons to a cup final ticket perfect time to do so. 2 per season makes little commercial or goodwill sense from our core fan base some of whom could miss out after being season ticket holders for years. Genuinely hope they consider this.

CallumLaidlaw
24-11-2021, 08:22 AM
Hibs announce its 1 per season ticket - folk moan
Hibs announce its 2 per season ticket - folk moan

I think folk are getting worked up over nothing. I’m pretty certain that after a week of sales there will still be tickets available.

Yes we sold out in 2016 but if memory serves me correctly we sold the last of our tickets literally days before the final.

Edit - yep, we sold out the Wednesday before the final.


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JimBHibees
24-11-2021, 08:22 AM
The numbers sit perfectly for timing half season tickets to get final ticket makes no sense not to do this imo.

GreenCastle
24-11-2021, 08:23 AM
You would that would make more sense to tie half seasons to a cup final ticket perfect time to do so. 2 per season makes little commercial or goodwill sense from our core fan base some of whom could miss out after being season ticket holders for years. Genuinely hope they consider this.

I get the half season ticket thing...you could possibly shift a good few.

Will they go as far as try get folk thinking about ST for next season though - say 25% or 50% deposit for a ST for next season and you get a cup final ticket. Yes a lot to ask for many just before Christmas also but some may be tempted.

The club will want to make serious ££ off this final after the Covid no fans season.

Crunchie
24-11-2021, 08:29 AM
Meaning some who went sunday may miss out? One per season ticket and then a public sale is the fair way
Season ticket holders get 1 each, any non season ticket holder with a stub for the semi final gets 1 and the rest go to public sale, it's a no brainer. Any other solution is unfair imo.

AST's shouldn't be anywhere in the equation and the club will be going down a slippery slope if they go with that one.

lord bunberry
24-11-2021, 08:30 AM
Maybe hibs think they’ll get north stand tickets if we sell our allocation really quickly. 2 per season ticket will help that happen and give us time to sell any extra tickets we get.

adam middlemass
24-11-2021, 08:31 AM
There are 3 season ticket holders in my group, I would like to be able to get another ticket for my daughter who doesn’t get to many games now for family reasons, we would only want the one extra, so there is 2 spare in this one transaction if you know what I mean. I don’t think every season ticket holder will take the extra one. But in all honesty, all the fans who were at Sunday’s semi, and gave the boys fantastic backing deserve, even if they aren’t season ticket holders, to be at this final ! 👍 ggtth.

BoomtownHibees
24-11-2021, 08:33 AM
AST's shouldn't be anywhere in the equation and the club will be going down a slippery slope if they go with that one.

Of course they should. They will get 1 ticket through being part of the AST scheme. All of them are also full season ticket holders so don’t see your issue

And it’s already been confirmed with payments for AST being taken today

HH81
24-11-2021, 08:34 AM
I get the half season ticket thing...you could possibly shift a good few.

Will they go as far as try get folk thinking about ST for next season though - say 25% or 50% deposit for a ST for next season and you get a cup final ticket. Yes a lot to ask for many just before Christmas also but some may be tempted.

The club will want to make serious ££ off this final after the Covid no fans season.

I will be pretty disappointed if they go through with this idea but don't give priority to fans like me who baught a several game package and although not Hibs fault but costs me £100.00 plus to attend every game.

Steven79
24-11-2021, 08:37 AM
Maybe hibs think they’ll get north stand tickets if we sell our allocation really quickly. 2 per season ticket will help that happen and give us time to sell any extra tickets we get.

Celtic will likely start selling the North the same time as us so once that happens we aren't getting any seats in it.

GreenCastle
24-11-2021, 08:42 AM
Maybe hibs think they’ll get north stand tickets if we sell our allocation really quickly. 2 per season ticket will help that happen and give us time to sell any extra tickets we get.

Hibs won't be getting any pitch side seats in the North Stand.

This is not changing.

Celtic have been given Full North Stand - sections - C and D.

Hibs section goes round to B8.

Crunchie
24-11-2021, 08:44 AM
Of course they should. They will get 1 ticket through being part of the AST scheme. All of them are also full season ticket holders so don’t see your issue

And it’s already been confirmed with payments for AST being taken today
As long as they don't get 2, I maybe worded it wrongly.

GreenCastle
24-11-2021, 08:45 AM
I will be pretty disappointed if they go through with this idea but don't give priority to fans like me who baught a several game package and although not Hibs fault but costs me £100.00 plus to attend every game.

Listening to Ben talk on the podcast and the increase in walk up prices - it seems all to be heading towards increasing ST sales in the future.

I think they will continue to do ticket bundles in future but got a feeling walk ups make it very hard for the club to plan for future finances / budgets.

lord bunberry
24-11-2021, 08:57 AM
Celtic will likely start selling the North the same time as us so once that happens we aren't getting any seats in it.


Hibs won't be getting any pitch side seats in the North Stand.

This is not changing.

Celtic have been given Full North Stand - sections - C and D.

Hibs section goes round to B8.
Maybe they’ve been told to sell from the other side just in case. They can sell the east and half the north and that would leave the door open for us to get more tickets.

BoomtownHibees
24-11-2021, 08:58 AM
Maybe they’ve been told to sell from the other side just in case. They can sell the east and half the north and that would leave the door open for us to get more tickets.

We won’t get any North Stand tickets

nonshinyfinish
24-11-2021, 09:04 AM
Maybe they’ve been told to sell from the other side just in case. They can sell the east and half the north and that would leave the door open for us to get more tickets.

According to Doncaster's reply to folk emailing him, the configuration of the north stand means it can only be split 50/50 or 100/0 for segregation. The way the splits are done seems to prioritise being able to sell the best seats first, so I can't see north stand seats being held back.

Steven79
24-11-2021, 09:06 AM
According to Doncaster's reply to folk emailing him, the configuration of the north stand means it can only be split 50/50 or 100/0 for segregation. The way the splits are done seems to prioritise being able to sell the best seats first, so I can't see north stand seats being held back.

Which is utter mince as they could surely put a barrier up at the back and stewards down between the fans like they did between the Hibs & Rangers fans on Sunday in the East?

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 10:35 AM
If Hibs do make it two per ST and people miss out it will be an own goal by the club. There’s no argument around that.


Whilst I agree with that but with 17,500 tickets fans would still miss out albeit all ST holders would get one.

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 10:43 AM
Announcement from the club should be today or tomorrow but it’s 100% two per season ticket


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This is what I said could be the case yesterday going by the AST email but as usual I was shouted down.

Jones28
24-11-2021, 10:50 AM
Whilst I agree with that but with 17,500 tickets fans would still miss out albeit all ST holders would get one.

What if the first 8,750 season ticket holders all take 2? Then you've got circa 3,000 season ticket holders missing out, not to mention no public sale.

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 10:53 AM
What if the first 8,750 season ticket holders all take 2? Then you've got circa 3,000 season ticket holders missing out, not to mention no public sale.


Its a big what if though isn't it. I'm confident every season ticket holder who wants one will get one.

Jones28
24-11-2021, 11:01 AM
Its a big what if though isn't it. I'm confident every season ticket holder who wants one will get one.

I hope you're right HC.

I'm not a season ticket holder, with 2 young kids it's not something I'm in a position to do at the moment, so I can have no complaints if I don't get a ticket! I would really feel for a season ticket holder if they missed out though.

Billy Whizz
24-11-2021, 11:06 AM
This is what I said could be the case yesterday going by the AST email but as usual I was shouted down.

You said ast could get 2, but they can’t

Jay
24-11-2021, 11:11 AM
Its a big what if though isn't it. I'm confident every season ticket holder who wants one will get one.

Why would they not? We have way more tickets available than ST holders.

Carheenlea
24-11-2021, 11:13 AM
Really can’t believe that ST holders will be able to buy two per ST. Makes no sense at all.

Surely some misinformation.

pollution
24-11-2021, 11:37 AM
All ifs and buts. Let's wait and see. I am still recovering from the £60 per ticket false info.

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 11:45 AM
You said ast could get 2, but they can’t


Nah I never, I said the email suggests if you opt out you'd be able to buy more than one. The email clearly says that no additional tickets can be added to the AST but you can opt out if you'd like to purchase additional tickets.

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 11:45 AM
Why would they not? We have way more tickets available than ST holders.


I was meaning if it is two per season ticket.

Keith_M
24-11-2021, 11:53 AM
Just had a though, could be that the poster saying it'll be 2 due to their AST is just that. They're guaranteed 1 as an ST and another as an AST. Just trying to work out why or how it'd be the case.



Well unless they've got a giant ar5e and literally need two seats to fit it in, then one should be enough

CallumLaidlaw
24-11-2021, 12:03 PM
As I said earlier I think we’ll be fine. I think out of the 12-13 season ticket holders in our group, hardly any will be taking up 2 tickets.


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Steven79
24-11-2021, 12:03 PM
Nah I never, I said the email suggests if you opt out you'd be able to buy more than one. The email clearly says that no additional tickets can be added to the AST but you can opt out if you'd like to purchase additional tickets.

Won't it mean that you can buy them for fellow season ticket holders around you?

Billy Whizz
24-11-2021, 12:04 PM
As I said earlier I think we’ll be fine. I think out of the 12-13 season ticket holders in our group, hardly any will be taking up 2 tickets.


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Still shouldn’t be allowed to happen though Callum

CallumLaidlaw
24-11-2021, 12:07 PM
Still shouldn’t be allowed to happen though Callum

Thing is Billy, the club can’t win. In the past they’ve been moaned at for making it 1 per ticket as it’s harder for folk to buy in groups. With quite a short window to get the tickets sold and distributed, they are probably very comfortable that previous sales patterns mean all season ticket holders will be covered.


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Billy Whizz
24-11-2021, 12:12 PM
Thing is Billy, the club can’t win. In the past they’ve been moaned at for making it 1 per ticket as it’s harder for folk to buy in groups. With quite a short window to get the tickets sold and distributed, they are probably very comfortable that previous sales patterns mean all season ticket holders will be covered.


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Callum, the club can win. Surely a season ticket holder should be able to buy a seat before non season ticket holder
Plenty of time to sell tickets to Hibs fans

Jay
24-11-2021, 12:20 PM
I was meaning if it is two per season ticket.

It can't be. There potentially won't be enough for season ticket holders and after blindly throwing money at them knowing we wouldn't see a game last season I'd be very disappointed if they did that. ST holders who want to sit with non st holders still can, they just need to wait for the public sale.

evy
24-11-2021, 12:20 PM
Thing is Billy, the club can’t win. In the past they’ve been moaned at for making it 1 per ticket as it’s harder for folk to buy in groups. With quite a short window to get the tickets sold and distributed, they are probably very comfortable that previous sales patterns mean all season ticket holders will be covered.


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Totally agree.

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 12:24 PM
Still shouldn’t be allowed to happen though Callum


Why not? You want additional tickets added to your AST yesterday? :confused:

Billy Whizz
24-11-2021, 12:26 PM
Why not? You want additional tickets added to your AST yesterday? :confused:

For 5 season ticket holders which I sit beside, including 2 young lads who are only be able to go if they come along and sit with me
Is that ok

gaz1875
24-11-2021, 12:32 PM
There are 3 season ticket holders in my group, I would like to be able to get another ticket for my daughter who doesn’t get to many games now for family reasons, we would only want the one extra, so there is 2 spare in this one transaction if you know what I mean. I don’t think every season ticket holder will take the extra one. But in all honesty, all the fans who were at Sunday’s semi, and gave the boys fantastic backing deserve, even if they aren’t season ticket holders, to be at this final ! 👍 ggtth.


I'm the same as you :greengrin not every ticket holder will take two tickets there will be some left over afterwards I bet.

CMurdoch
24-11-2021, 12:33 PM
Maybe hibs think they’ll get north stand tickets if we sell our allocation really quickly. 2 per season ticket will help that happen and give us time to sell any extra tickets we get.

Pretending to know what you are talking about again I see.
Doncaster has stated that Hibs will not be getting tickets in the North under any circumstances.

PatHead
24-11-2021, 12:35 PM
I'm the same as you :greengrin not every ticket holder will take two tickets there will be some left over afterwards I bet.

And if there isn't season ticket holders will miss out. Too big a risk.

gaz1875
24-11-2021, 12:39 PM
They could offer 2 per season ticket subject to availability on the extra tickets, there will still be plenty to go around. Not every season holder will be going (I know a couple) and not every season ticket holder needs an extra ticket. With the ticket prices so high its not like people will buy tickets just in case a mate was thinking of going, like I did for the semi final.

Magpie
24-11-2021, 12:44 PM
2 per season ticket holder is fine. Every season ticket holder didn’t even go to the semi final, so I doubt every season ticket holder plus an extra person will go. Even with season ticket holders being able to buy 2 tickets, I predict there will still be a general sale at some point.

Hermit Crab
24-11-2021, 12:59 PM
For 5 season ticket holders which I sit beside, including 2 young lads who are only be able to go if they come along and sit with me
Is that ok

Well obviously not as Hibs said no. :greengrin:wink:

CMurdoch
24-11-2021, 01:04 PM
I see self interest and in fighting has begun after the moral high ground of the last few days.
If season ticket holders are offered 2 tickets, which we shouldn't be, I hereby promise to pass my second ticket on to a deserving good Hibby who I don't currently know and who I am not related to. Will you do the same?

Blaster
24-11-2021, 01:06 PM
I hope we sell out now or going to look rather silly

hibbysam
24-11-2021, 01:10 PM
Nobody is going to miss out. If you want a ticket you will get one, whether it is one or two per season ticket holder. And it quite rightly promotes selling tickets early, and allowing non-st holders to sit with their season ticket holders friends/family.

007
24-11-2021, 01:16 PM
I see self interest and in fighting has begun after the moral high ground of the last few days.
If season ticket holders are offered 2 tickets, which we shouldn't be, I hereby promise to pass my second ticket on to a deserving good Hibby who I don't currently know and who I am not related to. Will you do the same?

Who are you asking?

Strange question anyway. ST holders will either be buying a 2nd ticket for a deserving good Hibby or won't bother to buy a 2nd ticket, in which case a deserving good Hibby will be able to buy it. No need to take it and pass it on to one they don't know.

HH81
24-11-2021, 01:20 PM
Who are you asking?

Strange question anyway. ST holders will either be buying a 2nd ticket for a deserving good Hibby or won't bother to buy a 2nd ticket, in which case a deserving good Hibby will be able to buy it. No need to take it and pass it on to one they don't know.

I am pretty sure there was a Rangers fan a few seats on from me on Sunday.

They never celebrated any of the goals and disappeared for large parts of the game.

Be careful if anyone is giving tickets away but if they are I will take one 😁.

CMurdoch
24-11-2021, 01:47 PM
Who are you asking?

Strange question anyway. ST holders will either be buying a 2nd ticket for a deserving good Hibby or won't bother to buy a 2nd ticket, in which case a deserving good Hibby will be able to buy it. No need to take it and pass it on to one they don't know.

Asking folk who post on here.
An example of the top of my head of folk who won't get tickets are regular posters on here who live down south and who go to great lengths to attend Hibs games but who for obvious reasons don't have season tickets.
IMO they are more deserving of your 2nd cup final ticket than Hibs fans aunty Janet, cousin Alan or your mate Bob that generally only go to cup finals and games against Hearts.

Keith_M
24-11-2021, 02:01 PM
My sister's only been to one game this season... the semi-final on Sunday.


So she's either

a) A total glory hunter and doesn't deserve a ticket for the final

b) One of our hard-core supporters that actually attended on Sunday and showed up our fair weather fans



I'll need to decide which of the two categories she's in if we get two tickets per ST holder

:wink:

Pretty Boy
24-11-2021, 02:09 PM
When the number of tickets available is limited then ST holders should be guaranteed their ticket. That's always bee one of the big selling points when buying a ST, whether it is the primary reasons is largely irrelevant. Based on our allocation and number of ST holders than means 1 per ST.

If ST holders want to sit in a group with mates then they are welcome to take the risk of waiting for a general public sale. If they miss out at that point then the blame lies with them.

If the club offer 2 per ST holder and ST holders fail to secure tickets then they leave themselves open to all kinds of justified criticism. Regardless of how unlikely it is it is madness to even consider taking the risk, it's something that could backfire spectacularly. It's not even about ST holders missing out, it will just lead to an almighty scramble as soon as tickets go on sale and put huge stresses on the ticket office and systems that could easily be avoided.

lord bunberry
24-11-2021, 02:14 PM
Pretending to know what you are talking about again I see.
Doncaster has stated that Hibs will not be getting tickets in the North under any circumstances.
I said maybe. That clearly implies that I was putting it out as something that could be a potential possibility. I wasn’t pretending to know anything. You are a really strange individual.

Steven79
24-11-2021, 02:18 PM
When the number of tickets available is limited then ST holders should be guaranteed their ticket. That's always bee one of the big selling points when buying a ST, whether it is the primary reasons is largely irrelevant. Based on our allocation and number of ST holders than means 1 per ST.

If ST holders want to sit in a group with mates then they are welcome to take the risk of waiting for a general public sale. If they miss out at that point then the blame lies with them.

If the club offer 2 per ST holder and ST holders fail to secure tickets then they leave themselves open to all kinds of justified criticism. Regardless of how unlikely it is it is madness to even consider taking the risk, it's something that could backfire spectacularly. It's not even about ST holders missing out, it will just lead to an almighty scramble as soon as tickets go on sale and put huge stresses on the ticket office and systems that could easily be avoided.

I don't think we have a "Right" way to do things as many season ticket holders won't want to go if they can't bring their son/daughter along.

If we had been given even 22,00/23,000 tickets then it would be so much easier to organise we gets what as I wouldn't like to be making this choice.

Pretty Boy
24-11-2021, 02:27 PM
I don't think we have a "Right" way to do things as many season ticket holders won't want to go if they can't bring their son/daughter along.

If we had been given even 22,00/23,000 tickets then it would be so much easier to organise we gets what as I wouldn't like to be making this choice.

It's tricky.

There have been finals at which we have had the 22/23K tickets and only given ST holders 1 initially. When demand is likely to exceed supply would seem a strange time to start opening the club up to the risk of ST holders missing out and the inevitable backlash that comes with that.

Since452
24-11-2021, 02:29 PM
Wonder if Hibs will do a beam back to ER for the final.

Jones28
24-11-2021, 02:44 PM
Wonder if Hibs will do a beam back to ER for the final.

That could be tricky with it being Premier Sports, but I think the demand would be there from our supporters - it would be great if you could take a carry out with you.

CMurdoch
24-11-2021, 02:59 PM
I said maybe. That clearly implies that I was putting it out as something that could be a potential possibility. I wasn’t pretending to know anything. You are a really strange individual.

But it isn't a possibility, potentially or otherwise. Doncaster made that very clear yesterday.
As for your character assasination, that is just pathetic.

Vini1875
24-11-2021, 03:45 PM
2 tickets per ST does have the potential to be a disaster, but we have a group of 5 ST holders none of whom will be getting a 2nd ticket. I don't know if this is what Hibs are banking on, but would be a risk. That said for almost every final I can remember it has proved immpossible to please everyone. People who may "deserve" a ticket miss out and total wing nuts who only turn out for finals manage to get tickets, this year will be the same.

Hibs90
24-11-2021, 03:56 PM
2 tickets per ST does have the potential to be a disaster, but we have a group of 5 ST holders none of whom will be getting a 2nd ticket. I don't know if this is what Hibs are banking on, but would be a risk. That said for almost every final I can remember it has proved immpossible to please everyone. People who may "deserve" a ticket miss out and total wing nuts who only turn out for finals manage to get tickets, this year will be the same.

Unless it's a ploy for Hibs so we can sell the tickets quicker and go back to the SPFL..

GordonHFC
24-11-2021, 03:56 PM
Myself and my family take up 5 season tickets and that is exactly the number I will be looking for.

lord bunberry
24-11-2021, 03:58 PM
But it isn't a possibility, potentially or otherwise. Doncaster made that very clear yesterday.
As for your character assasination, that is just pathetic.
Doncaster made it very clear yesterday that these were initial allocations and there was scope for further tickets being made available depending on sales.

Crunchie
24-11-2021, 04:01 PM
When the number of tickets available is limited then ST holders should be guaranteed their ticket. That's always bee one of the big selling points when buying a ST, whether it is the primary reasons is largely irrelevant. Based on our allocation and number of ST holders than means 1 per ST.

If ST holders want to sit in a group with mates then they are welcome to take the risk of waiting for a general public sale. If they miss out at that point then the blame lies with them.

If the club offer 2 per ST holder and ST holders fail to secure tickets then they leave themselves open to all kinds of justified criticism. Regardless of how unlikely it is it is madness to even consider taking the risk, it's something that could backfire spectacularly. It's not even about ST holders missing out, it will just lead to an almighty scramble as soon as tickets go on sale and put huge stresses on the ticket office and systems that could easily be avoided.

:top marks

CMurdoch
24-11-2021, 04:47 PM
Doncaster made it very clear yesterday that these were initial allocations and there was scope for further tickets being made available depending on sales.

Yes, but he also stated clearly that those further tickets will be in the South stand.
The general opinion on here is that we are talking about hundreds rather than thousands of tickets.
A few of the guys on here asked Doncaster directly about the North stand

gbhibby asked him
"Will Hibs fans have access to the North stand when our initial allocation sells out"

Doncaster/His Staff replied
"No, the decision on the North stand cannot be reversed- that has been made available to Celtic.The North Stand can only be split 50/50 or not at all.A 50/50 split of the North Stand would mean (broadly) a 50/50 split of the stadium irrespective of sales- which in turn could lead to big gaps of unsold seats."

Liberal Hibby
24-11-2021, 04:50 PM
2 tickets per ST does have the potential to be a disaster, but we have a group of 5 ST holders none of whom will be getting a 2nd ticket. I don't know if this is what Hibs are banking on, but would be a risk. That said for almost every final I can remember it has proved immpossible to please everyone. People who may "deserve" a ticket miss out and total wing nuts who only turn out for finals manage to get tickets, this year will be the same.

My old man is a season ticket holder. He's in his 80s and I think has only been to one game this season becuase of social distancing. I was at the Livi game earlier this season and he didn't feel comfortable to go to that. The differences between actual attendance and the declared attendance is probably largest this season than ever - as I suspect my dad isn't alone in picking and choosing which games to go to because of the pandemic. I suspect he won't want a final ticket either.

I reckon either 1x or 2x per ST holder would be possible for these reasons - 2x per ST would in some ways be easier as friends could get seats together on a single booking.

JimBHibees
24-11-2021, 04:53 PM
Those further tickets he referred to will be in the South and the general opinion on here is that we are talking about hundreds rather than thousands of tickets.
A few of the guys on here asked Doncaster about the North stand

gbhibby asked him
"Will Hibs fans have access to the North stand when our initial allocation sells out"

Doncaster/His Staff replied
"No, the decision on the North stand cannot be reversed- that has been made available to Celtic.The North Stand can only be split 50/50 or not at all.A 50/50 split of the North Stand would mean (broadly) a 50/50 split of the stadium irrespective of sales- which in turn could lead to big gaps of unsold seats."

Yep as you say a few hundred extra at best.

HH81
24-11-2021, 04:54 PM
My old man is a season ticket holder. He's in his 80s and I think has only been to one game this season becuase of social distancing. I was at the Livi game earlier this season and he didn't feel comfortable to go to that. The differences between actual attendance and the declared attendance is probably largest this season than ever - as I suspect my dad isn't alone in picking and choosing which games to go to because of the pandemic. I suspect he won't want a final ticket either.

I reckon either 1x or 2x per ST holder would be possible for these reasons - 2x per ST would in some ways be easier as friends could get seats together on a single booking.

If their friends want seats for a final ahead of me then they should get a season ticket too.

1 per season ticket and rest on general sale is what I feel is fair.

Liberal Hibby
24-11-2021, 04:56 PM
If their friends want seats for a final ahead of me then they should get a season ticket too.

1 per season ticket and rest on general sale is what I feel is fair.

Sorry meant to say ST holding friends - my old man and his mate have sat together for years.

Gmack7
24-11-2021, 05:52 PM
They will surely offer anyone who buys a half season ticket the option of a final ticket, with the lower allocation this is a great opportunity to drive up the match day revenue at ER

JimBHibees
25-11-2021, 02:09 PM
They will surely offer anyone who buys a half season ticket the option of a final ticket, with the lower allocation this is a great opportunity to drive up the match day revenue at ER

Agree makes no sense not to do that.

hibbysam
25-11-2021, 02:13 PM
Agree makes no sense not to do that.

Will there be half seasons? Surely doubtful if they are doing match packages?

CMurdoch
25-11-2021, 02:20 PM
They will surely offer anyone who buys a half season ticket the option of a final ticket, with the lower allocation this is a great opportunity to drive up the match day revenue at ER

That would have been a cunning plan up until about 9 o clock last night.

TamHibs
25-11-2021, 03:38 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/sale-dates-confirmed-for-premier-sports-cup-final-tickets

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JimBHibees
25-11-2021, 03:46 PM
Will there be half seasons? Surely doubtful if they are doing match packages?

Maybe right.

JimBHibees
25-11-2021, 03:46 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/sale-dates-confirmed-for-premier-sports-cup-final-tickets

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Good shout :aok:

green day
25-11-2021, 03:51 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/sale-dates-confirmed-for-premier-sports-cup-final-tickets

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Well done with that inside info.:aok:

As I said when you mentioned it first, it seems a very strange way to allocate that amount of tickets.................however as long as I get at least mine I am fine with it.

Billy Whizz
25-11-2021, 04:16 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/sale-dates-confirmed-for-premier-sports-cup-final-tickets

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Good shout Tam, 100% wrong decision from Hibs
This smacks of Hibs board politics. They don’t care a jot about season ticket holders

ronaldo7
25-11-2021, 04:20 PM
Good shout Tam, 100% wrong decision from Hibs
This smacks of Hibs board politics. They don’t care a jot about season ticket holders

Maybe they want to put pressure on the SPFL for more tickets in the debenture areas of the ground, when we sell out our initial allocation early.

Billy Whizz
25-11-2021, 04:23 PM
Maybe they want to put pressure on the SPFL for more tickets in the debenture areas of the ground, when we sell out our initial allocation early.

They do Ronnie, but they could easily have given season ticket holders a small window to buy, then another window for season ticket holder plus one

Brightside
25-11-2021, 04:23 PM
Good shout Tam, 100% wrong decision from Hibs
This smacks of Hibs board politics. They don’t care a jot about season ticket holders

What do you mean Billy? They are offering 2 per ST. Surely it’s not caring a jot about non ST holders?

Pretty Boy
25-11-2021, 04:24 PM
What do you mean Billy? They are offering 2 per ST. Surely it’s not caring a jot about non ST holders?

St holders aren't guaranteed a ticket.

Regardless of how unlikely it is, it's entirely possible a couple of thousand ST holders could miss out.

Brightside
25-11-2021, 04:25 PM
St holders aren't guaranteed a ticket.

Regardless of how unlikely it is, it's entirely possible a couple of thousand ST holders could miss out.

Ah gotcha. 👍.

ronaldo7
25-11-2021, 04:30 PM
They do Ronnie, but they could easily have given season ticket holders a small window to buy, then another window for season ticket holder plus one

Yup. I think they've been hacked off by the SPFL boards decision on tickets and want to prove a point. Let's hope every season ticket holder gets to the final that wants to go.

Billy Whizz
25-11-2021, 04:34 PM
What do you mean Billy? They are offering 2 per ST. Surely it’s not caring a jot about non ST holders?

ST don't need 2, they only get 1 for every other game

oneone73
25-11-2021, 04:35 PM
It doesn't seem possible for a group of three to buy tickets in one transaction. Surely that can't be right, anyone know?

LaMotta
25-11-2021, 04:41 PM
It doesn't seem possible for a group of three to buy tickets in one transaction. Surely that can't be right, anyone know?

Why do you think that mate? As long as you have a network of linked season tickets set up then you can just assign tickets to different season ticket reference and buy in the one transaction?

Pretty Boy
25-11-2021, 04:42 PM
You can buy up to 20 per transaction as long as you have the required number of ST client refs in your network.

oneone73
25-11-2021, 04:43 PM
Why do you think that mate? As long as you have a network of linked season tickets set up then you can just assign tickets to different season ticket reference and buy in the one transaction?

Don't think it's going to allow you to do that? Each transaction is 1+1?

Brightside
25-11-2021, 04:44 PM
Don't think it's going to allow you to do that? Each transaction is 1+1?

You can buy for your whole network.

CMurdoch
25-11-2021, 04:45 PM
ST don't need 2, they only get 1 for every other game

I agree with Brightside i.e. the club by selling 2 tickets to each season ticket holder are telling non season ticket holders that they don't care about them

gaz1875
25-11-2021, 04:47 PM
When you are buying for a group when do you do the allocation to another season part? I think I've only done it once before but can't remember, I don't want to be messing up :confused:

Billy Whizz
25-11-2021, 04:47 PM
I agree with Brightside i.e. the club by selling 2 tickets to each season ticket holder are telling non season ticket holders that they don't care about them

Sorry you’ve lost me, who’s going to get the 2nd one if you buy?

Jones28
25-11-2021, 04:48 PM
https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/sale-dates-confirmed-for-premier-sports-cup-final-tickets

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Sorry for calling you’re info in to question Tam, feels like a strange decision to me but hey ho.

LaMotta
25-11-2021, 05:09 PM
Don't think it's going to allow you to do that? Each transaction is 1+1?

There are 6 season ticket holders in my network - so that should allow me to organise for all and buy up to 12 tickets.

Although for various reasons we will only be looking for 3 of the 12 allowed tickets. I think Hibs will have got this right and no ST's will miss out.

CMurdoch
25-11-2021, 05:16 PM
Sorry you’ve lost me, who’s going to get the 2nd one if you buy?

Sorry Billy, does this make more sense.
Hibs by offering to sell 2 tickets to each season ticket holder are telling non season ticket holders that they don't care about them

hibee-boys
25-11-2021, 05:20 PM
There are 6 season ticket holders in my network - so that should allow me to organise for all and buy up to 12 tickets.

Although for various reasons we will only be looking for 3 of the 12 allowed tickets. I think Hibs will have got this right and no ST's will miss out.

Yip, we could get 10 and getting 4! The bed wetting on here is incredible.

Keith_M
25-11-2021, 06:26 PM
Sorry Billy, does this make more sense.
Hibs by offering to sell 2 tickets to each season ticket holder are telling non season ticket holders that they don't care about them



I'm confused, are you worried you're going to miss out on a final ticket?

Sir David Gray
25-11-2021, 06:31 PM
This seems a nonsensical decision, cannot fathom why it would be two tickets per season which means every season ticket holder is not now guaranteed to get a ticket.

blackpoolhibs
25-11-2021, 06:56 PM
This seems a nonsensical decision, cannot fathom why it would be two tickets per season which means every season ticket holder is not now guaranteed to get a ticket.

I will pay £100 to any charity you name, if any season ticket holder does not get a ticket who wants one.

Crunchie
25-11-2021, 06:59 PM
This seems a nonsensical decision, cannot fathom why it would be two tickets per season which means every season ticket holder is not now guaranteed to get a ticket.
It's a pretty shameful decision if you ask me, there'll be plenty upset by this and rightly so. It won't make a difference to me as I won't be going anyway but I've already been offered and declined 1 and I've not been to a game for over a year.

Billy Whizz
25-11-2021, 07:02 PM
I will pay £100 to any charity you name, if any season ticket holder does not get a ticket who wants one.

It’s not just about getting a ticket, surely s ST holder should have a window to buy before ST holder +1

blackpoolhibs
25-11-2021, 07:05 PM
It’s not just about getting a ticket, surely s ST holder should have a window to buy before ST holder +1

I dont see the problem, every season ticket holder who wants to go will go, how they sell the rest is irrelivant imho.

hibee-boys
25-11-2021, 07:05 PM
This seems a nonsensical decision, cannot fathom why it would be two tickets per season which means every season ticket holder is not now guaranteed to get a ticket.

The only season ticket holders that will miss out, if any, will be those not switched on enough to buy them over the weekend but no doubt they’ll bump their gums and blame the club. I’m a season ticket holder and have zero concerns about not getting a ticket. You just need to read through the ticket threads to see that the majority of season ticket holders will not be taking up the plus 1 option. I’d expect a few thousand left for public sale.

Billy Whizz
25-11-2021, 07:11 PM
I dont see the problem, every season ticket holder who wants to go will go, how they sell the rest is irrelivant imho.

That’s why it should be ST holder, as it’s always been, then the rest

Sir David Gray
25-11-2021, 08:14 PM
I will pay £100 to any charity you name, if any season ticket holder does not get a ticket who wants one.

I'm not saying any season ticket holder who wants to go won't get a ticket, it's just the fact that it's not guaranteed that I find odd.

Onceinawhile
25-11-2021, 08:15 PM
Yip, we could get 10 and getting 4! The bed wetting on here is incredible.

On the flip side, I can get 8, but need 11. So there is a flip side to it.

Surprised at least one of your st group isn't taking a ticket.

Pretty Boy
25-11-2021, 08:25 PM
I suppose it's inevitable but I had a text from a Celtic supporting mate earlier.

'If yous are getting 2 can I have your spare or do you know anyone who can get me 1?'

I hope anyone else who is asked gives the same curt reply I did. The 2nd word was off.

hibee-boys
25-11-2021, 09:03 PM
On the flip side, I can get 8, but need 11. So there is a flip side to it.

Surprised at least one of your st group isn't taking a ticket.

My old man has stayed away from any games this year, got a season ticket to watch the games at home and support the club.

CMurdoch
25-11-2021, 09:14 PM
I'm confused, are you worried you're going to miss out on a final ticket?

Everyone is always confused on here :wink:
As a season ticket holder I have no and never had any concerns about not getting a ticket.

TamHibs
26-11-2021, 01:42 PM
Sales have started fairly strongly imo looking at the seats left from the initial blocks on sale


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blackpoolhibs
26-11-2021, 03:49 PM
I'm not saying any season ticket holder who wants to go won't get a ticket, it's just the fact that it's not guaranteed that I find odd.

Technically not guaranteed, but the club will have data on how we've sold in the past, and know everyone who can take 2 tickets wont. :greengrin

SHODAN
26-11-2021, 03:58 PM
Looks like we're going to sell out shortly. Over to you, Doncaster.

Hermit Crab
26-11-2021, 04:04 PM
Looks like we're going to sell out shortly. Over to you, Doncaster.


Eh? No danger, theres still 2 unopened blocks plus thousands available in B4, B5 and B6

Hibernia&Alba
26-11-2021, 04:13 PM
Eh? No danger, theres still 2 unopened blocks plus thousands available in B4, B5 and B6

They've only been on sale a couple of hours, and loads of people won't yet have had chance to buy theirs. They will all sell.

Hermit Crab
26-11-2021, 04:28 PM
They've only been on sale a couple of hours, and loads of people won't yet have had chance to buy theirs. They will all sell.


Yes they will but were are not nearly sold out like the poster says.

Leith Green
26-11-2021, 05:23 PM
Yes they will but were are not nearly sold out like the poster says.

He didnt say they were nearly sold out , he said they will sell out shortly ..

Leith Green
26-11-2021, 05:24 PM
Be hardly any left come modays public sale.. looks like 3-4k left at moment

Leith Green
26-11-2021, 05:27 PM
And thats after only 4 hours 😂
Some folk wont even bother until tomorrow and sunday

Hermit Crab
26-11-2021, 05:53 PM
Be hardly any left come modays public sale.. looks like 3-4k left at moment

Still 2 unopened locks plus 2 pretty full blocks and loads of singles dotted about. We'll be giving some more to Celtic at this rate.

Keith_M
26-11-2021, 05:55 PM
Still 2 unopened locks plus 2 pretty full blocks and loads of singles dotted about. We'll be giving some more to Celtic at this rate.



Aw come,have a day off!

Hermit Crab
26-11-2021, 05:59 PM
Aw come,have a day off!


I'm on a long weekend. Banned by Sunday no doubt. :greengrin

Keith_M
26-11-2021, 06:00 PM
I'm on a long weekend. Banned by Sunday no doubt. :greengrin


I did wonder if you were on the wind-up.... again


:na na:

greenlex
26-11-2021, 06:02 PM
Aw come,have a day off!
Sucks the life out me. There’s very few social media places I go to these days and this place is killing me now too. Shame.

Hermit Crab
26-11-2021, 06:06 PM
Sucks the life out me. There’s very few social media places I go to these days and this place is killing me now too. Shame.


Use ignore then. :confused:

greenlex
26-11-2021, 06:19 PM
Use ignore then. :confused:

Who said that?