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WestEndHibee
22-11-2021, 12:43 AM
Was at the game tonight and, other than the communication breakdown for rangers' goal, thought he was superb tonight. A number of crosses into the box he leapt up and took the ball, snuffing out the attack. Also seemed to have everything else covered even if it eventually went wide. Loved his reaction at the end too, he knew what that meant.

FilipinoHibs
22-11-2021, 03:23 AM
Was at the game tonight and, other than the communication breakdown for rangers' goal, thought he was superb tonight. A number of crosses into the box he leapt up and took the ball, snuffing out the attack. Also seemed to have everything else covered even if it eventually went wide. Loved his reaction at the end too, he knew what that meant.

Yes looks as if they have been working on him coming for crosses to nullify our weakness there.

hibsbollah
22-11-2021, 05:33 AM
Commanding again. I do wonder if there’s a minority of fans just refuse to take to him for whatever reason. His brilliant performance in the derby should have put any worries about him to bed, but I’m still reading criticism of him on here.

HH81
22-11-2021, 05:37 AM
He came put for a few crossers and caught them well which was pleasing to see.

Shame about the goal as he deserved a clean sheet.

Tambo
22-11-2021, 06:24 AM
Very strong point of his game is claiming crosses.

heretoday
22-11-2021, 06:29 AM
He was impressive apart from nearly sticking it in his own net which might have changed the game at the time.

hibsbollah
22-11-2021, 06:38 AM
He was impressive apart from nearly sticking it in his own net which might have changed the game at the time.

'Nearly' means 'didnt'. He took a fast bouncing ball that was rising up into him, controlled it with his outstep and cleared it is another way of looking at it.

Heisenberg
22-11-2021, 06:47 AM
He was impressive apart from nearly sticking it in his own net which might have changed the game at the time.

That was all McGregor. What a horrendous pass to give a keeper in that area.

HibsGW
22-11-2021, 06:49 AM
That was all McGregor. What a horrendous pass to give a keeper in that area.

Yep McGregor fired a bouncing pass at goal at a 6 foot 7 goalkeeper, was an accident waiting to happen. Aside from that though McGregor was good too but just about keeked myself at that moment.

Borderhibbie76
22-11-2021, 07:01 AM
That was all McGregor. What a horrendous pass to give a keeper in that area.

It sure was...an absolutely horrific backpass which he done well to divert onto Post

Callum_62
22-11-2021, 07:07 AM
He had a few shaky/unsure moments but outwith the emotion of the game he took some important crosses and overall done his job

Everyone did last night

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Callum_62
22-11-2021, 07:08 AM
It sure was...an absolutely horrific backpass which he done well to divert onto PostI wouldn't go that far to say he done well to divert it onto the past - if he diverted in it would've been a goalie howler you seen again and again (with obviosukybsone blame on the bad back pass)

He didn't though and we skelped the so onwards and upwards!

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lyonhibs
22-11-2021, 07:22 AM
That was all McGregor. What a horrendous pass to give a keeper in that area.

Exactly. Fired a bouncing pass at him at about 100 mph.

Did well all things considered.

Shrekko
22-11-2021, 08:46 AM
Commanding again. I do wonder if there’s a minority of fans just refuse to take to him for whatever reason. His brilliant performance in the derby should have put any worries about him to bed, but I’m still reading criticism of him on here.

A few folk have blamed him for the goal yesterday without any explanation as to what he did wrong- it's bizarre. I can only assume it's the fans who have been adamant that Rocky was top class and we'd never replace him- sticking to their guns no matter what.

He seems to be subject to a lot nit picking. I was absolutely delighted with the way he commanded his box yesterday- exactly what's needed in a game like that and that's 3 excellent shows he's put on at Hampden. Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be satisfied with his performances.

Northernhibee
22-11-2021, 08:49 AM
I do think that nostalgia plays a big part, Ofir was one of our most loved keepers in recent memory so people forget the mistakes and occasional dodgy game he had and that’s what Macey has to be compared to.

People also forget that Oxley had some storming games before his confidence started to slip before collapsing under competition from Logan in comparison.

I like Macey. He’s a good goalie at this level.

hibbysam
22-11-2021, 08:54 AM
A few folk have blamed him for the goal yesterday without any explanation as to what he did wrong- it's bizarre. I can only assume it's the fans who have been adamant that Rocky was top class and we'd never replace him- sticking to their guns no matter what.

He seems to be subject to a lot nit picking. I was absolutely delighted with the way he commanded his box yesterday- exactly what's needed in a game like that and that's 3 excellent shows he's put on at Hampden. Can't imagine why anyone wouldn't be satisfied with his performances.

He was at fault for the goal, there was no pace on the ball, he started to come and changed his mind meaning Porteous had to deal with it at the last second. Other than that he was fairly flawless though and took a few tricky balls out the air to relieve pressure.

You can be satisfied - in fact delighted with his performance, while also understand why he should’ve taken the cross for the goal.

Heisenberg
22-11-2021, 08:59 AM
He was at fault for the goal, there was no pace on the ball, he started to come and changed his mind meaning Porteous had to deal with it at the last second. Other than that he was fairly flawless though and took a few tricky balls out the air to relieve pressure.

You can be satisfied - in fact delighted with his performance, while also understand why he should’ve taken the cross for the goal.

Would definitely agree he was at fault for the goal. His hesitation left Porteous with a last minute swipe at a ball he didn’t think was his.

NORTHERNHIBBY
22-11-2021, 09:09 AM
I suppose that his fundamental flaw, is that he is not Rocky. But then Rocky wasn't Ben Williams, and so on and so on.

GRA
22-11-2021, 09:45 AM
Rocky was a fab shot stopper, probably best I've seen at that part of goalkeeping for Hibs goalies, but his cross-taking and distribution was sketchy at times. A great servant for five years but Rocky is gone now.

Don't really see what Macey has done wrong since he's joined us. There will always be games where the blame will (rightly or wrongly) lie with him, that's just the nature of the beast being a goalkeeper.

But in some of our biggest games over the last year (cup final, against Hearts and yesterday) he's been outstanding.

hibsbollah
22-11-2021, 09:48 AM
He was at fault for the goal, there was no pace on the ball, he started to come and changed his mind meaning Porteous had to deal with it at the last second. Other than that he was fairly flawless though and took a few tricky balls out the air to relieve pressure.

You can be satisfied - in fact delighted with his performance, while also understand why he should’ve taken the cross for the goal.

I agree with the last sentence, that its possible to think two things at the same time on this, but i dont think hes particularly at fault for the goal. There are a number of elements going on at the same time 1. Cross deflects off Doig, putting a different trajectory on it, and it WAS coming with pace, so i disagree with you on that 2. Porto moves across into Maceys line of sight, as the ball crosses the 6 yard box the two players are equidistant from the ball, classic 'corridor of uncertainty' where it could be either players responsibility. If Macey commits himself there it could be a collision with porto, he doesnt have hindsight 4. Porto sclaffs it straight to Arfield, not a mistake as such but unfortunate 5. Doyle Hayes has two players to mark at the edge of the box so Arfield is unmarked and gets a free shot away.

So its an Unfortunate sequence of events caused by a few factors including the deflection, sclaffed clearance and outnumbered on the break. I wouldnt blame either player really.

Pretty Boy
22-11-2021, 09:54 AM
Daft error for the goal due to indecisiveness. It happens.

Other than that he was faultless. Commanding, distribution was good and he made the saves he had to with minimal fuss.

roo62
22-11-2021, 10:01 AM
Daft error for the goal due to indecisiveness. It happens.

Other than that he was faultless. Commanding, distribution was good and he made the saves he had to with minimal fuss.
Not sure PB even if Macey had shouted I think Porto would still have taken the decision to clear purely on defender instinct in a dangerous area.Porto at fault for a poor clearance in my opinion.

hibbysam
22-11-2021, 10:06 AM
I agree with the last sentence, that its possible to think two things at the same time on this, but i dont think hes particularly at fault for the goal. There are a number of elements going on at the same time 1. Cross deflects off Doig, putting a different trajectory on it, and it WAS coming with pace, so i disagree with you on that 2. Porto moves across into Maceys line of sight, as the ball crosses the 6 yard box the two players are equidistant from the ball, classic 'corridor of uncertainty' where it could be either players responsibility. If Macey commits himself there it could be a collision with porto, he doesnt have hindsight 4. Porto sclaffs it straight to Arfield, not a mistake as such but unfortunate 5. Doyle Hayes has two players to mark at the edge of the box so Arfield is unmarked and gets a free shot away.

So its an Unfortunate sequence of events caused by a few factors including the deflection, sclaffed clearance and outnumbered on the break. I wouldnt blame either player really.

The deflection takes all the pace off. If he doesn’t come fine, but he starts to come and then changes his mind. That’s indecisive which then means Porto has to deal with it at the last second. He can see early that the only danger in the box is Morelos at the back stick, he’s not involving so if he shouts early Porto leaves it well alone. Poor clearance all the same but think it could’ve been avoided.

JimBHibees
22-11-2021, 10:08 AM
I agree with the last sentence, that its possible to think two things at the same time on this, but i dont think hes particularly at fault for the goal. There are a number of elements going on at the same time 1. Cross deflects off Doig, putting a different trajectory on it, and it WAS coming with pace, so i disagree with you on that 2. Porto moves across into Maceys line of sight, as the ball crosses the 6 yard box the two players are equidistant from the ball, classic 'corridor of uncertainty' where it could be either players responsibility. If Macey commits himself there it could be a collision with porto, he doesnt have hindsight 4. Porto sclaffs it straight to Arfield, not a mistake as such but unfortunate 5. Doyle Hayes has two players to mark at the edge of the box so Arfield is unmarked and gets a free shot away.

So its an Unfortunate sequence of events caused by a few factors including the deflection, sclaffed clearance and outnumbered on the break. I wouldnt blame either player really.

Surely portos clearance is a mistake should be clearing that away in his sleep. Looks like indecision Porto waiting on a call and Macey not sure when to come for it. Really poor goal yo lose and just glad it wasn't vital.

lord bunberry
22-11-2021, 10:14 AM
It sure was...an absolutely horrific backpass which he done well to divert onto Post
I wasn’t aware it had hit the post, it just looked like he miss controlled the ball. I was up the back of G2 right behind the other goal so I was probably as far away as you could be. Tbh I’m glad I didn’t know :greengrin

hibsbollah
22-11-2021, 10:24 AM
Surely portos clearance is a mistake should be clearing that away in his sleep. Looks like indecision Porto waiting on a call and Macey not sure when to come for it. Really poor goal yo lose and just glad it wasn't vital.

Aye well i suppose it could be classed as a mistake, i just think theres a few factors going on that made it explainable. If Porto had more time and had passed it straight to Arfield id be more inclined to point fingers at him, but like i said, deflection, moving all over the place, not much time to react, hes a bit off balance. More blame to Porto than to Macey but its just one of those unfortunate occasions. And of course Macey DID hesitate and change his mind, but thats because of the deflection.

If we're going to be picky i suppose we should classify mistakes by severity and explicability, 1 to 5; id have Macey 1 Porto a 2 but nowhere near a Zibby or malkowski at 5:greengrin

CentreLine
22-11-2021, 10:34 AM
I agree with the last sentence, that its possible to think two things at the same time on this, but i dont think hes particularly at fault for the goal. There are a number of elements going on at the same time 1. Cross deflects off Doig, putting a different trajectory on it, and it WAS coming with pace, so i disagree with you on that 2. Porto moves across into Maceys line of sight, as the ball crosses the 6 yard box the two players are equidistant from the ball, classic 'corridor of uncertainty' where it could be either players responsibility. If Macey commits himself there it could be a collision with porto, he doesnt have hindsight 4. Porto sclaffs it straight to Arfield, not a mistake as such but unfortunate 5. Doyle Hayes has two players to mark at the edge of the box so Arfield is unmarked and gets a free shot away.

So its an Unfortunate sequence of events caused by a few factors including the deflection, sclaffed clearance and outnumbered on the break. I wouldnt blame either player really.

Good summary. I would add that Morelos was within touching distance of Macey and had he called for Porto to leave it Morelos would have made life very difficult for him taking it cleanly. It was Porto’s ball to clear but he too had to deal with the deflection.

CMurdoch
22-11-2021, 10:39 AM
I thought the goal was clearly Porteous fault. All he had to do was calmly kick the ball back in direction it came from but by trying to kick it out the way he cuts across it.

He had another poor clearance in his own box in the second half which went 30 feet in the air but only 6ft forward. Fortunately nothing came of it.
I should also say he also had a load of great tackles, clearances and defensive headers.

As for the passback incident, putting that at McGregors door. Daz also had two far worse pass backs against Aberdeen recently and has been sent off twice in a handful of appearances. One of my favourite players but all the evidence tells me he should have retired from playing in the summer. It comes to every player even great ones like him.

Northernhibee
22-11-2021, 10:46 AM
I now get nervous when I see McGregor take to the pitch for us, which has never been the case before. I still love him to bits obviously, but think he’s no longer of the standard we need.

worcesterhibby
22-11-2021, 10:59 AM
I thought the goal was clearly Porteous fault. All he had to do was calmly kick the ball true in any direction.
He had another poor clearance in his own box in the second half which went 30 feet in the air but only 6ft forward. Fortunately nothing came of it.
I should also say he also had a load of great tackles, clearances and defensive headers and set up Boyle for the 1st goal.

As for the passback incident, putting that at McGregors door. Daz also had two far worse pass backs against Aberdeen recently and has been sent off twice in a handful of appearances. One of my favourite players but all the evidence tells me he should have retired from playing in the summer. It comes to every player even great ones like him.

I agree that Porto's general play was brilliant, particularly in the air he was commanding. It wasn't him that set up the first goal though it was an intentional chested backpass by Tavernier and he wasn't under any particular pressure. Ballgoun goes down easily under pressure from Porto in front of him, but the ball is nowhere near either of them. The assist was a beautiful bit of skill by Tavernier :greengrin

On the backpass issue, Macey lifted his hand and was ready to bat the ball off the line if it hadn't hit the post...that would have been a free kick for a pass back, but not a goal.

hibbysam
22-11-2021, 11:02 AM
Good summary. I would add that Morelos was within touching distance of Macey and had he called for Porto to leave it Morelos would have made life very difficult for him taking it cleanly. It was Porto’s ball to clear but he too had to deal with the deflection.

Not for me, Morelos is nowhere near as shown in this. Macey is on the front foot and was actually in a decent starting position. Have no idea why he chose to retreat but you can see here Porto is leaving it at this point.

worcesterhibby
22-11-2021, 11:11 AM
I'm more than happy with Macey in goal for Hibs, has shown he can be an excellent shot stopper, collects more crosses than any Hibs goalie for years and will only improve as he gets more games and builds his experience and confidence. The fact that we are trying to find freeze frames that might indicate that he has to take some responsibility for a marginally poor decision that unluckily led to a goal, shows how good he was yesterday. With him in goal we will see a lot of penalty's saved and missed..he is massive and is very intimidating to take a penalty against, opposition players will feel they have to absolutely hit the corner and it will lead to misses..look at his stats for penalty's saved/missed in2 years time and they will be better than any previous Hibs goalie !

hibsbollah
22-11-2021, 11:12 AM
I agree that Porto's general play was brilliant, particularly in the air he was commanding. It wasn't him that set up the first goal though it was an intentional chested backpass by Tavernier and he wasn't under any particular pressure. Ballgoun goes down easily under pressure from Porto in front of him, but the ball is nowhere near either of them. The assist was a beautiful bit of skill by Tavernier :greengrin

On the backpass issue, Macey lifted his hand and was ready to bat the ball off the line if it hadn't hit the post...that would have been a free kick for a pass back, but not a goal.

As someone said on quick bang earlier, Porto nullified Morelos, which was his main job and he did it brilliantly. I barely noticed he was playing.

worcesterhibby
22-11-2021, 11:14 AM
As someone said on quick bang earlier, Porto nullified Morelos, which was his main job and he did it brilliantly. I barely noticed he was playing.

If you are struggling to notice him in future..he's the portly, grumpy one :greengrin

CMurdoch
22-11-2021, 11:34 AM
I'm more than happy with Macey in goal for Hibs, has shown he can be an excellent shot stopper, collects more crosses than any Hibs goalie for years and will only improve as he gets more games and builds his experience and confidence. The fact that we are trying to find freeze frames that might indicate that he has to take some responsibility for a marginally poor decision that unluckily led to a goal, shows how good he was yesterday. With him in goal we will see a lot of penalty's saved and missed..he is massive and is very intimidating to take a penalty against, opposition players will feel they have to absolutely hit the corner and it will lead to misses..look at his stats for penalty's saved/missed in2 years time and they will be better than any previous Hibs goalie !

I've just had a good look at the goal and it's down to Ryan.
He hits across the line of the ball in trying to kick the ball away from goal instead of simply kicking it back in the direction it came from.
What he tries is far higher risk because it needs far better timing.
Decision making error.

Shrekko
22-11-2021, 02:10 PM
He was at fault for the goal, there was no pace on the ball, he started to come and changed his mind meaning Porteous had to deal with it at the last second. Other than that he was fairly flawless though and took a few tricky balls out the air to relieve pressure.

You can be satisfied - in fact delighted with his performance, while also understand why he should’ve taken the cross for the goal.

I totally disagree he was at fault for the goal and don't think he changed his mind at all- happened far too quickly. He'll have had to change his body shape as soon as Porto intervened. I'm guessing communication in such a big stadium in those situations is difficult and I'm just going to put it down to that- was a poor clearance though.

B.H.F.C
22-11-2021, 02:28 PM
I totally disagree he was at fault for the goal and don't think he changed his mind at all- happened far too quickly. He'll have had to change his body shape as soon as Porto intervened. I'm guessing communication in such a big stadium in those situations is difficult and I'm just going to put it down to that- was a poor clearance though.

Macey definitely changed his mind. You can see him step forward then step back. He definitely shouted initially, could see that from my seat in the south at the time. I think he got done by the spin on the ball and misjudged it initially.

I thought he was really good otherwise and commanded his box well. Really toon the pressure off us at times.

BoomtownHibees
22-11-2021, 02:30 PM
The way Paul Hanlon reacted to the goal made me think he felt Macey had to do better. I thought that too at the time however Porto still has to do better with his clearance