Brother Beaton at it again?

[The Harp Awakes]

What's everyone's take on Sevco's penalty last night? Was Brother Beaton giving The Rangers a helping hand again?

I watched the incident on Sportscene and couldn't see any foul. The Sportscene pundits both said it was a penalty but only when viewed from another angle. In typical amateurish fashion, Sportscene only showed the incident from one angle.

[Magpie]

Wasn’t Beaton in a Rangers pub having a bevy after refereeing a previous Old Firm game where Rangers won? Most of them are corrupt imo.

[The Harp Awakes]

Wasn’t Beaton in a Rangers pub having a bevy after refereeing a previous Old Firm game where Rangers won? Most of them are corrupt imo.

Aye that's right.

[Nicho87]

This is the elite league in scotland this sort of thing doesn’t go on!

[StirlingHibee]

The Aberdeen defender had a hold of the lad's shirt. End of.

[Hibby70]

Richard Gordon on the radio said he watched it loads of times and couldn't see anything that would warrant a penalty.

I watched it once and he had a hold of his shirt. Still soft mind you but Richard Gordon is a prick. I was glad Aberdeen didn't get 3 points .

[hibbysam]

The Aberdeen defender had a hold of the lad's shirt. End of.

Agree with this. My grievance is that there is no danger it would be given at the other end (unless the game was done) and it happens all the time at corners/free kicks with nothing given.

[Keith_M]

It's funny because that was my first thought as well

[Pretty Boy]

Penalty.

The type that don't get given enough imo

[SHODAN]

Agree with this. My grievance is that there is no danger it would be given at the other end (unless the game was done) and it happens all the time at corners/free kicks with nothing given.

You say that, but the one and only time I saw Hibs win at Ibrox (and the last time we actually beat them) was via a penalty decision you'd never think we'd be given over there. It was correct, mind you - just not blatant!

[gbhibby]

When did a slight shirt tug cause a player to fall like a sack of tatties. There were at least half a dozen times shirts were tugged in the box last night but no penalties given.

[Weegreenman]

Penalty for me I’m afraid to say 😳

[neil7908]

Just watched on YouTube and I can't see anything to suggest it's a penalty.

There is no way in a million years a team gets that decision at Ibrox against Sevco. It's incredible how often these decisions are given when Sevco are in a tight game. Almost suspicious 🤔

[Eyrie]

When did a slight shirt tug cause a player to fall like a sack of tatties. There were at least half a dozen times shirts were tugged in the box last night but no penalties given.

That's what football players do.

Look at the Celtc player last night behaving as if Boyle had just haymakered him when there was minimal contact. Spent a couple of minutes rolling from side to side on a soaking wet pitch, which is real dedication to feigning injury.

[easty]

Never a penalty

[loanheadhibby]

What's everyone's take on Sevco's penalty last night? Was Brother Beaton giving The Rangers a helping hand again?

I watched the incident on Sportscene and couldn't see any foul. The Sportscene pundits both said it was a penalty but only when viewed from another angle. In typical amateurish fashion, Sportscene only showed the incident from one angle.
Shelley and Faddy both thought it was a penalty on Sportscene.
Beaton did give us a helping hand v St Johnstone which has turned out to be a big three points.
I though last night's award was ridiculous.

[hibbysam]

You say that, but the one and only time I saw Hibs win at Ibrox (and the last time we actually beat them) was via a penalty decision you'd never think we'd be given over there. It was correct, mind you - just not blatant!

Was that the Scott Allan/Jamie McLaren one? They were hardly a force back then though so far easier to give decisions which barely affects them. Now it’ll have a proper impact on the title race there is no way clubs are getting decisions against that pair.

[kaimendhibs]

Penalty my hoop

[KeithTheHibby]

Penalty my hoop

You grab a jersey it’s a foul, simple as. Ref called it correctly.

[kaimendhibs]

You grab a jersey it’s a foul, simple as. Ref called it correctly.

Every, and I mean every single game, you see shirts pulled

[Pretty Boy]

Every, and I mean every single game, you see shirts pulled

And if more refs gave penalties or fouls against attackers when it was the other way then it would stop.

Every so often a ref shows typical inconsistency and gives a penalty and you get pundits going on about 'a dozen penalties a game if you give those fouls'. So what? If you acknowledge pulling a shirt is a foul then it should be penalised. Players would soon get the message.

[JimBHibees]

And if more refs gave penalties or fouls against attackers when it was the other way then it would stop.

Every so often a ref shows typical inconsistency and gives a penalty and you get pundits going on about 'a dozen penalties a game if you give those fouls'. So what? If you acknowledge pulling a shirt is a foul then it should be penalised. Players would soon get the message.

Funny how their inconsistency consistently favours certain teams. :greengrin

[easty]

And if more refs gave penalties or fouls against attackers when it was the other way then it would stop.

Every so often a ref shows typical inconsistency and gives a penalty and you get pundits going on about 'a dozen penalties a game if you give those fouls'. So what? If you acknowledge pulling a shirt is a foul then it should be penalised. Players would soon get the message.

I don't think every pull on a shirt is a foul, in the same way that I don't think every but of contact should give a player a right to fall over.

There was never enough in it at Ibrox the other night to send that Rangers player to the ground.

[JimBHibees]

I don't think every pull on a shirt is a foul, in the same way that I don't think every but of contact should give a player a right to fall over.

There was never enough in it at Ibrox the other night to send that Rangers player to the ground.

Yep never a foul imo. Staggering decision which would never in a million years have been given at the other end as we know only too well from recent games against Rangers. Referees are quite simply scared to do so.

[Peevemor]

I don't think every pull on a shirt is a foul, in the same way that I don't think every but of contact should give a player a right to fall over.

There was never enough in it at Ibrox the other night to send that Rangers player to the ground.

I think it should be. Every shirt pull comes from either a conscious decision or a bad habit. In any case it's against the rules of the game so instead of making other rules more complicated (eg. offside) why not apply a zero tolerance to some of the simpler, existing ones?

[JimBHibees]

I think it should be. Every shirt pull comes from either a conscious decision or a bad habit. In any case it's against the rules of the game so instead of making other rules more complicated (eg. offside) why not apply a zero tolerance to some of the simpler, existing ones?

What happens when both players are doing it?

[bigwheel]

What happens when both players are doing it?

Pen To Rangers ! ;).

[Spike Mandela]

Not a penalty for me. Certainly not one given at any other ground in Scotland.

Sat and watched Sportscene with McFadden describing a shirt pull and no matter how many times I rewound it I couldn’t see it.

What I do see is every cross and corner every week in every game you can clearly see blatant shirt holds and shirt tugs with absolutely nothing given. What I think you get at Ibrox are referees looking to give anything when it is required.

[Peevemor]

What happens when both players are doing it?

That's for the referee to do his job. :greengrin

Seriously I see no need for any tolerance on shirt pulling. Some of the stuff that goes on at corners and some free kicks is plain daft.

Clamp down on it and all doubt is removed.

[JimBHibees]

That's for the referee to do his job. :greengrin

Seriously I see no need for any tolerance on shirt pulling. Some of the stuff that goes on at corners and some free kicks is plain daft.

Clamp down on it and all doubt is removed.

Agree totally about the holding and grappling at corners it is terrible and should be sorted.

[Key West]

That's for the referee to do his job. :greengrin

Seriously I see no need for any tolerance on shirt pulling. Some of the stuff that goes on at corners and some free kicks is plain daft.

Clamp down on it and all doubt is removed.

They tried to clamp down in the EPL it lasted a week or 2.

[Eyrie]

What happens when both players are doing it?

Award a foul against the attacking team.

That will stop them doing it as they'll lose out whether or not the defender is also at it, whilst defenders will have stop because it will be a penalty if they are the only ones shirt pulling.

Assuming of course, the officials enforce the rule.

[Waxy]

If you get caught tugging a shirt you should get made to wear a pair of big fluffy mittens for the rest of the game.

[Peevemor]

If you get caught tugging a shirt you should get made to wear a pair of big fluffy mittens for the rest of the game.

Bit of a bummer if you get itchy nads. :greengrin

[Since90+2]

Never a penalty in a million years. Genuinely baffled folk think it is.

[allmodcons]

Award a foul against the attacking team.

That will stop them doing it as they'll lose out whether or not the defender is also at it, whilst defenders will have stop because it will be a penalty if they are the only ones shirt pulling.

Assuming of course, the officials enforce the rule.

Surely that depends on where they are officiating.

[Keith_M]

Ex ref Steve Conroy in the paper today saying it wasn't a penalty and is a great exame of why we need VAR

[Zambernardi1875]

Is that Beaton drinking in the crown bar in bellshill after the game with the crown bar loyal

[A Hi-Bee]

A hun is a hun is a hun, no gonna change and no gonna change with VAR, as the same crowd o people will be making the decisions, Scottish fitba is a joke.
A wish we could afford to set up a panel of overseas refs to judge the crazy and obvious cheating that goes on in Scotland.

[Alfred E Newman]

When did a slight shirt tug cause a player to fall like a sack of tatties. There were at least half a dozen times shirts were tugged in the box last night but no penalties given.

Darren McGregor didn’t go down at Pittodrie last week when his shirt was been pulled and was sent off for staying on his feet and trying to shake the offender off.

[stoneyburn hibs]

Var will sort out the Hun refs.

[Kato]

Var will sort out the Hun refs.Sort them out for overtime sitting in booth somewhere still giving them dodgy decisions?

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[stoneyburn hibs]

Sort them out for overtime sitting in booth somewhere still giving them dodgy decisions?

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Fair point, hopefully the three involved in every Hun game are not of that persuasion.
I'd like to think not.
Does a panel pick the var team?
I'm clueless as to the workings of this.

[Hibernia&Alba]

I think it was one of those which is a penalty by the letter of the law, but which aren't often given. Of course, if you are Rangers and need a goal at Ibrox, it's a nailed on penalty. Aberdeen wouldn't have been given a penalty for that.

[Peevemor]

I think it was one of those which is a penalty by the letter of the law, but which aren't often given. Of course, if you are Rangers and need a goal at Ibrox, it's a nailed on penalty. Aberdeen wouldn't have been given a penalty for that.Which is why IMO there should be zero tolerance for shirt pulling - there would be no argument/room for doubt.

[Hibernia&Alba]

Is that Beaton drinking in the crown bar in bellshill after the game with the crown bar loyal

The Crown Bar, how very apt for a Rangers pub. Almost as good as The Masonic Arms in Larkhall. :greengrin