Atmosphere

[nickwhibs]

Firstly, yes I know the performance yesterday had a big impact on the atmosphere, especially in second half. However, I’ve noticed recently and even still at 0-0 that there wasn’t much atmosphere. There’s been a lot of talk recently about improving the match day experience, but for me and I’m sue many others, a good atmosphere is part of that, even if the game itself is dull or really poor like yesterday. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how we can improve this (other then the team playing better of course)? I remember even 2 or three years ago the ground was far livelier, especially in the east stand. Things like safe standing and a potential move of the signing section to FFL would help but that likely won’t happen until next season at the earliest.

[H18 SFR]

I personally think the general atmosphere has regressed since the singing section moved back to the East.

If anyone can point out a game that has had a good atmosphere since the move I will happily stand corrected.

[Keith_M]

I thought the atmosphere from the guys in the South Stand was pretty impressive.


In the first half, the young guys in the corner of the East Stand were good, as they always are. But as soon as United scored, the home support just went quiet, which was a shame

[007]

I personally think the general atmosphere has regressed since the singing section moved back to the East.

If anyone can point out a game that has had a good atmosphere since the move I will happily stand corrected.

If it has, I don't think it has anything to do with the singing section. So far generally we've had smaller crowds than pre -covid, yesterday was the biggest away crowd (and we were dismal, singing section were good to start with but the team didn't give us much to cheer/sing about) and don't think we've played particularly well at home yet other than the 1st half against Ross County (might be forgetting another time).

[B.H.F.C]

There was no buzz about the place even before a ball was kicked yesterday. I don’t think it’s anything to do with who sits where etc, it’s just that a lot of folk don’t particularly feel excited by this team. Which is also the main reason there’s so many empty seats IMO.

[Magpie]

There was no buzz about the place even before a ball was kicked yesterday. I don’t think it’s anything to do with who sits where etc, it’s just that a lot of folk don’t particularly feel excited by this team. Which is also the main reason there’s so many empty seats IMO.

That’s what I think too. Boyle is the only player that I feel can get me off my seat. Boring days.

[Weegreenman]

Easter Road is like a library these days. Anyone who denies this is simply kidding themselves on and are doing the club no favours.

We need some radical changes for the better. If people have to be moved, so be it. Something needs to give.

[Weegreenman]

If it has, I don't think it has anything to do with the singing section. So far generally we've had smaller crowds than pre -covid, yesterday was the biggest away crowd (and we were dismal, singing section were good to start with but the team didn't give us much to cheer/sing about) and don't think we've played particularly well at home yet other than the 1st half against Ross County (might be forgetting another time).

Apparently there was 15k + at yesterday’s game. Certainly didn’t look like it.

[Centre Hawf]

That’s what I think too. Boyle is the only player that I feel can get me off my seat. Boring days.

I don't necessarily disagree or agree with you on this but considering how well our general results have been this season i've found it surprising that when restrictions on fans were lifted the big crowds haven't seemed to flock back even just for the sake of it on one of the first few games. Even when we had the Europa Conference games with the smaller crowds I don't think we sold them out very well? Just seems to be a real apathy from a lot of people for the club at the moment.

Maybe it's because we're not exactly an entertaining team, maybe others want to see the signings made to justify them going and the transfer window put some people off, maybe the rest think we should be in Hearts' position instead. I honestly don't know. Yesterday certainly won't have helped increase numbers for the next few games at least.

[Mikey_1875]

The atmosphere hasn’t been great at all this season at home I would agree. I sit on the other end of the east from the singing section and didn’t really hear much pre-match or before the goals. One thing that seems more common that i’m guilty of as well is just clapping along to the songs instead of singing.

Don’t really have any answers to improve it, was impressed with Utd yesterday and also when we visited Motherwell. I suppose one thing they have in common is that they are exceeding expectations this season. We haven’t had a OF team or hearts at home yet this season so hopefully we will see an improvement when we have Celtic under the floodlights next.

[Key West]

Dundee United created an atmosphere for their fans by working hard, consistently getting the basics right and playing at a decent tempo.
Yesterday when the passing in general was poor were basically relying on 3 players to try and get things going, Doig, Murphy and as usual Boyle.

[madhatter]

Barely any players to get excited by. I would say a fair amount turned up to ER through some kind of duty. Who actually turns up to ER expecting to be entertained at the moment? I unfortunately do not. Boyle's runs are about all I genuinely get excited by, the rest is percentage football and a borefest.

Rightly or wrongly a sizeable number of Hibs fans want to see fast free flowing attacking football where the team takes risks. That's something that rarely happens these days. Happened more under Stubbs and Lennon.

This style of football will struggle to get bums on seats shortly. Nevermind bums off seats in excitement.

[B.H.F.C]

I don't necessarily disagree or agree with you on this but considering how well our general results have been this season i've found it surprising that when restrictions on fans were lifted the big crowds haven't seemed to flock back even just for the sake of it on one of the first few games. Even when we had the Europa Conference games with the smaller crowds I don't think we sold them out very well? Just seems to be a real apathy from a lot of people for the club at the moment.

Maybe it's because we're not exactly an entertaining team, maybe others want to see the signings made to justify them going and the transfer window put some people off, maybe the rest think we should be in Hearts' position instead. I honestly don't know. Yesterday certainly won't have helped increase numbers for the next few games at least.

Think I saw someone mention on another thread that we were told, a lot, last year that it would feel different when we were back in the ground (in relation to the criticisms about style of play etc). The way it is at ER at the moment, in terms of empty seats and general atmosphere, suggests otherwise. Like you, it’s not quite been what I expected since we got back. Probably a bit different away from home.

[LaMotta]

Easter Road is like a library these days. Anyone who denies this is simply kidding themselves on and are doing the club no favours.

We need some radical changes for the better. If people have to be moved, so be it. Something needs to give.

:agree:

The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.

[Jones28]

I don't necessarily disagree or agree with you on this but considering how well our general results have been this season i've found it surprising that when restrictions on fans were lifted the big crowds haven't seemed to flock back even just for the sake of it on one of the first few games. Even when we had the Europa Conference games with the smaller crowds I don't think we sold them out very well? Just seems to be a real apathy from a lot of people for the club at the moment.

Maybe it's because we're not exactly an entertaining team, maybe others want to see the signings made to justify them going and the transfer window put some people off, maybe the rest think we should be in Hearts' position instead. I honestly don't know. Yesterday certainly won't have helped increase numbers for the next few games at least.

I think we will find that a lot of people will have fallen out of the habit and it will be a while before they get back into it.

[Key West]

Barely any players to get excited by. I would say a fair amount turned up to ER through some kind of duty. Who actually turns up to ER expecting to be entertained at the moment? I unfortunately do not. Boyle's runs are about all I genuinely get excited by, the rest is percentage football and a borefest.

Rightly or wrongly a sizeable number of Hibs fans want to see fast free flowing attacking football where the team takes risks. That's something that rarely happens these days. Happened more under Stubbs and Lennon.

This style of football will struggle to get bums on seats shortly. Nevermind bums off seats in excitement.

I'm definitely turning up out of duty and Boyle is usually the difference between us winning and losing.

Hibs especially at home should be setting the tempo right from the start, nowadays it is 18 passes to get back to where we started passing the ball along the back line before
before either telegraphing a pass out wide or launching a long ball forward in hope.

[Jones28]

:agree:

The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.

This is ultimately what needs to happen imo. Can be moved to the east where lots of the young lads currently are and it would look phenomenal on tv.

[JohnM1875]

I'm definitely turning up out of duty and Boyle is usually the difference between us winning and losing.

Hibs especially at home should be setting the tempo right from the start, nowadays it is 18 passes to get back to where we started passing the ball along the back line before
before either telegraphing a pass out wide or launching a long ball forward in hope.

We really miss Porto as well. He's always the one to fire a pass into feet through the middle of the park. Without him I agree it's boring pedestrian stuff that's so easy to defend against. No wonder we're quiet.

[Weegreenman]

:agree:

The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.

I agree, although I’d go even further. Why not make that whole end the singing section.
It works for away teams at the other end. Rangers, Celtic and Hearts all generate a brilliant atmosphere.
It can be done.
A few noses will be put out of joint but this is for the greater good of the club.

I’d also like to see us close of either a section at either end of the east or maybe even cut it off three quarters of the way up.
We could open these sections up to walk ups if need be.
This way, there won’t be big gaps everywhere.

I know this will attract negativity but something needs to give.

[RyeSloan]

:agree:

The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.

The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.

[Key West]

We really miss Porto as well. He's always the one to fire a pass into feet through the middle of the park. Without him I agree it's boring pedestrian stuff that's so easy to defend against. No wonder we're quiet.

Whatever people think of Porteous he wears his heart on his sleeve. I want to see passionate players giving their all for 90 minutes regardless of the scoreline, what you put into practice serves you well for the next game. I saw a glimpse of that in the 3-2 win at Motherwell.

[Weegreenman]

The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.

I’ve been to quite a few stadiums all over Europe were the supporters are loud and still bouncing whether they are winning or losing.

I agree the team needs to do better but we as supporters can do better and it starts by having a whole stand that everyone knows as our singing section.

[LaMotta]

The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.

I agree that of course performances can help the atmosphere, but what about the atmosphere also helping performances?

Really cant agree that the singing section is fine where it is - too few people lost amongst a big stand.

The Famous five looks great when full - atmosphere is not just about noise, its visual too - having a singing section up and out the way totally limits the atmosphere they can create. The famous five is the stand that people see on the telly, its where the fans should be drawing the ball into the net. The FF looked pathetic yesterday though.


I’ve been to quite a few stadiums all over Europe were the supporters are loud and still bouncing whether they are winning or losing.

I agree the team needs to do better but we as supporters can do better and it starts by having a whole stand that everyone knows as our singing section.
:agree:

[matty_f]

Think I saw someone mention on another thread that we were told, a lot, last year that it would feel different when we were back in the ground (in relation to the criticisms about style of play etc). The way it is at ER at the moment, in terms of empty seats and general atmosphere, suggests otherwise. Like you, it’s not quite been what I expected since we got back. Probably a bit different away from home.

I felt different in the ground to watching on TV. Probably more pissed off , but i can imagine how bad that would have been to watch on TV yesterday.

[BILLYHIBS]

Some atmosphere at the Newcastle game for obvious reasons

1-0 The Toon

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[lord bunberry]

The atmosphere is almost always rubbish against the teams we’ve played so far. We’ve not had a big game at home yet. Yesterday had potential for a decent atmosphere with Utd bringing a good noisy support, but the team capitulated. The Celtic game will see a decent atmosphere return.

[Weegreenman]

The atmosphere is almost always rubbish against the teams we’ve played so far. We’ve not had a big game at home yet. Yesterday had potential for a decent atmosphere with Utd bringing a good noisy support, but the team capitulated. The Celtic game will see a decent atmosphere return.

Painting over the cracks mate. Even the Edinburgh Derby at Easter Road is as poor an atmosphere as I’ve seen for many a year.

As has already been said, I think the whole famous five should be given over to supporters who are committed and want to go the extra mile to create not just an atmosphere but an electric atmosphere, one that we can all get behind and hoped it transcends down on to the pitch to our players.
It can be done. Jist look at some of the displays we’ve seen in the FF. They have been outstanding.

[RyeSloan]

Painting over the cracks mate. Even the Edinburgh Derby at Easter Road is as poor an atmosphere as I’ve seen for many a year.

As has already been said, I think the whole famous five should be given over to supporters who are committed and want to go the extra mile to create not just an atmosphere but an electric atmosphere, one that we can all get behind and hoped it transcends down on to the pitch to our players.
It can be done. Jist look at some of the displays we’ve seen in the FF. They have been outstanding.

Yer dreaming if you think you could get the whole of the FF full of fans that will sing and generate an atmosphere regardless of how the team are playing.

It’s nothing to do with where the singing section is now.

It’s all to do with the fact that in general we simply don’t have any serious numbers of supporters that will turn up and do what you want regardless.

We do though have a support that’s capable of generating an atmosphere but they need a team on the pitch to give something to enable that.

[Alfred E Newman]

The pedestrian way we start games at home, sets the tone I’m afraid.
It kills the atmosphere stone dead.

[Weegreenman]

Yer dreaming if you think you could get the whole of the FF full of fans that will sing and generate an atmosphere regardless of how the team are playing.

It’s nothing to do with where the singing section is now.

It’s all to do with the fact that in general we simply don’t have any serious numbers of supporters that will turn up and do what you want regardless.

We do though have a support that’s capable of generating an atmosphere but they need a team on the pitch to give something to enable that.

I disagree. However I don’t think it’ll happen with the best will in the world. Far too many Hibs supporters who lack any vision and are happy to carry on regardless. Shame really.

[Hiber-nation]

The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.

So true. The last time the ground was consistently bouncing was in the 2nd half of 17-18. It's going to take a massive transformation to get that back again. It's all fine talking about the fans creating an atmosphere but whether you like or or not it is down to the players.

[Keith_M]

I think it's an exaggeration to say that no games at ER have had a good atmosphere this season. It was decent enough, for instance, when we played Livi and Ross County... games where there's not exactly a history of an amazing atmosphere. Late on against St Johnstone was OK as well, I thought, after we scored.

The guys in Section 45 have worked really hard to create a decent atmosphere and sometimes it's paid off and others it hasn't, as it all depends how willing the other Fans are to join in, which doesn't seem to the case when we're not playing well, or we're losing.

You can hear the young guys in the Singing Section loud and clear from the far end of the ground, so their location doesn't seem to be the biggest issue.

[Pretty Boy]

It's always dead at games v anyone bar Hearts, Rangers, Celtic and sometimes Aberdeen.

Yesterday was particularly flat though. There wasn't much to get excited about but the fans were pretty quick to turn. I've said elsewhere why I think that is so it's not worth repeating again.

[Iain G]

Dare I suggest that the drumming isn't conducive to getting people to start songs or chanting?

[LaMotta]

Vitesse fans made so much atmosphere at NEC today that they broke a stand:shocked:

https://twitter.com/FootballlForAll/status/1449761576056238087

[Keith_M]

Vitesse fans made so much atmosphere at NEC today that they broke a stand:shocked:

https://twitter.com/FootballlForAll/status/1449761576056238087?s=20




Jeezo

[SHODAN]

Most of us in there hadn't seen us lose a game in-person for over a year and a half. I think we were just stunned tbh.

[CMurdoch]

Dare I suggest that the drumming isn't conducive to getting people to start songs or chanting?

Sounded like someone randomly kicking a cardboard box

[SHODAN]

Vitesse fans made so much atmosphere at NEC today that they broke a stand:shocked:

https://twitter.com/FootballlForAll/status/1449761576056238087




I'm amazed no one seems to be injured there.

[LaMotta]

It's always dead at games v anyone bar Hearts, Rangers, Celtic and sometimes Aberdeen.

Yesterday was particularly flat though. There wasn't much to get excited about but the fans were pretty quick to turn. I've said elsewhere why I think that is so it's not worth repeating again.

Agreed, but it's good at most away games though against the other teams.

Some of that down to bevvy before the game, but it def helps fans being closer together in a smaller stand, usually behind the goal.

[SChibs]

Kept seeing people saying the singing section should move back to the east so the whole East joins in rather than just one corner of the f5. Now the section has moved back the East is still quiet apart from the group in the corner trying their best

[Franck Stanton]

Too many "cucumber sandwich" attitude fur coat & no knickers attending games. Admittedly I sit in ff lower, & usually join in with most of the chants/ songs, however. ....those around me look at me as though I have two heads tut tutting.

[jacomo]

I'm amazed no one seems to be injured there.


Wow! A seconds pause, and then on with the party!

Seriously hope everyone is ok.

[Alfred E Newman]

Too many "cucumber sandwich" attitude fur coat & no knickers attending games. Admittedly I sit in ff lower, & usually join in with most of the chants/ songs, however. ....those around me look at me as though I have two heads tut tutting.

What a load of nonsense.

[Keith_M]

... Admittedly I sit in ff lower, & usually join in with most of the chants/ songs, however. ....those around me look at me as though I have two heads tut tutting.


I'm the same and I think that's the biggest problem. People often join in the clapping but that's about it.


I've had season tickets in different parts of the stadium and experienced pretty much the same thing.

[Iain G]

What a load of nonsense.

Yeah there were no cucumber sandwiches in the West upper, was most dissapointed that I had to put up with the afternoon tea without them, at least the scones have improved but there was no clotted cream...have written my letter of complaint to Ron.

[LoaningCrHibbie]

:agree:

The solution is obvious I think - lower section of the famous five should be turned into the singing section, directly behind the goal. Longer term it should be safe standing.

Well said ! That is were the singing section should be, it's obvious. I also agree with your comment on that is were any safe standing should be. It would surely help the atmosphere at Easter Road ?

[LaMotta]

Well said ! That is were the singing section should be, it's obvious. I also agree with your comment on that is were any safe standing should be. It would surely help the atmosphere at Easter Road ?

When I win tbe euromillions I'll make sure it happens :greengrin

[Nicho87]

Atmosphere is set by the tempo of the players on the pitch

No coincidence under Ross we have seen very flat home atmospheres this season even after a year of non attending

You can’t rely on games under the lights all the time

[Hibby70]

Dare I suggest that the drumming isn't conducive to getting people to start songs or chanting?

I agree, it's just coming over as some guy battering a drum as hard as he can. Found it quite irritating yesterday - but then everything was pissing me off.

Time to put the singing section to bed and forget about moving them all around the ground every couple of seasons.

[Carheenlea]

Every clubs the same - home games a bit sterile on atmosphere front but away games are always buzzing. Dundee Utd fans yesterday was a case in point - away end rocking but Tannadice like a library.

[B.H.F.C]

Every clubs the same - home games a bit sterile on atmosphere front but away games are always buzzing. Dundee Utd fans yesterday was a case in point - away end rocking but Tannadice like a library.

I thought yesterday was a bit different to just lacking in atmosphere. There was a total lack of buzz about the place, before a ball was even kicked. And the crowd weren’t slow in turning on them either. It’s not a particularly joyful place these days IMO.

[wookie70]

Vitesse fans made so much atmosphere at NEC today that they broke a stand:shocked:

https://twitter.com/FootballlForAll/status/1449761576056238087




Every time I'm at Tiny I feel this is going to happen. Glad it appears no-one was hurt.

In terms of atmosphere moving the singing section will make no difference. There is only a few hundred of them from what I can see and they are like most fans. When the game lacks energy so do they. We now have a big gap at the top right of the FF as they have moved if you are interested in the aesthetics of the crowd. In the smaller cup games the singing section doesn't even appear to bother attending. Well done to anyone who creates an atmosphere at ER but the singing section are just supporters like the rest of us and should have to buy their ST and wait for seats to become available like the rest of us.

I agree with a few posters here. The low energy, pragmatic football is the big reason there isn't much of an atmosphere at ER. When we get players back from injury I think the atmosphere will improve, as will our results and our style of play.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Ach ..... don't even have to read the thread. Until the 'singing' section become a safe standing area in the FF lower we will constantly see threads like this one, how many has there been over the last 20 years?

It's at the back of the East .... can hardly hear them, outsung by the tiny away support.

It's at the front of the East .... can hardly hear them, outsung by the tiny away support.

It's at the top corner of the FF upper .... cant see them, cant hear them, outsung by the tiny away support.

It's in the far corner of the East ,,, cant hear them, outsung by the tiny away support ... I acknowledge, decent United support on Saturday for once, so not tiny.

To say the singing section is so small it will never fill the FF lower as a standing section is nonsense .... the only thing that's going to encourage folk to become part of it and see it grow is to move it to a standing area compromising the whole of the FF lower where folk will want to be part of it. Move them there, make it standing and watch it grow and grow.

[Franck Stanton]

What a load of nonsense.

Oh really.

[swordin3]

I hope the present apathy is not coming from the management team.I have hopes for Jack Ross but Saturday looked that there were too many aspects of our play that was wrong.Speed of play ,reactions to balls in their box and ours.Murphy & Boyle were the only 2 that were up to speed.we missed out our centre midfield the whole game giving Utd the centre of the pitch to control the game.We had at least 10 set plays where we did not attack at all just ball watched.The passing along the back line shows lack of ideas and slows us right down. Continually going down the lines has proved fruitless the majority of times as our crossing and delivery is of amateur standard and not hitting our Players. Cmon Jack a lot of our failings are basics .

[JimBHibees]

The solution is a football team that don’t send you to sleep.

The singing section is just fine where it is but the fans had zero effort to back yesterday.

You can’t expect a good atmosphere or fans willing their team on when in the mangers words the players are simply ‘lazy’.

I know it’s a bit chicken and egg when it comes to fans backing the players and players giving the fans something to back. But when the performance on the pitch is so flat then what chance does anyone have in creating an atmosphere.

I’m 100% sure that if the players start giving the fans a few morsels then the atmosphere will be absolutely fine.

Totally agree a performance when we are taking the initiative from the off at home is going to generate an atmosphere. Both St Mirren and United have been the same in the first half waiting on something happening and no real intensity pressure or efforts at goal. How many efforts on goal have we had in the first half of these games? Both we have been passive and lost a goal just before half time then immediately change it with a half time sub.

[ABZHFC]

The elephant in the room is pricing. It costs far too much to attend games like Dundee United (H) at Easter Road nowadays. Inevitably, this prices out the kind of fans who are more likely to be boisterous and wanting to be up on their feet for 90 minutes singing, whilst those (normally a bit older and with more disposable income) who prefer to sit and watch the game will still keep coming. I have nothing against fans who prefer to sit and watch the game nowadays by the way, I’m sure when they were young they did their stints standing on the terraces shouting and bawling, and they should be accommodated at Easter Road too. But the pricing structure at Hibs means that unless you can commit towards a season ticket, walk-up costs are ridiculously high. This undoubtedly is to the detriment of the atmosphere, as it will mostly be the younger fans who are less likely to be able to commit towards getting a season ticket at a semi-reasonable price, and it is something that urgently needs addressed

[jakeshibs]

I may get pelters but here goes anyway

We are quick to criticise Jack Ross, Ron Gordon, the players and everyone else but we as fans also have a responsibility to lift the players when it is not going to plan, it is easy to support victories or great play, but that is not when a support is needed. You need the support when it's difficult , to lift the heads, to dig deep, we also let the team down on Saturday.

I was there and am guilty as found it hard to raise my spirits but once home, and analysed the atmosphere it was quiet and boring and agree the performance did not inspire me, but thats when we should dig in and change it.

my opinion as a loyal hibs fan, sorry if others disagree

[Antifa Hibs]

We've been having these threads every season since the old East was flattened and will be having them until Hibs actively sort out the situation.

The situation is pretty ridiculous just now. We've got the singing section stood with the drum numbering about 30-50 in block 45. Then the whole of block 44 sitting. Then you've got a mish-mash of sitting and standing in rear quarter of 43. Its unworkable until the club sort it out, some people will be pissed off about having to move but hey ho they'll get over it. Trial FF lower, commit to East upper, whatever - just commit to a proper singing/standing section.

[DIXIHIBS]

Hibs need to sort this out. FF lower for singing/standing. Older fans like myself will go every week but the young team want/need atmosphere. If the games are as flat as saturday then the younger fans will simply not bother going. Atmosphere is a huge part of football but especially for younger fans. Im afraid since the east became a stand, apart from the odd occasion, sadly its just not the same.

[wookie70]

Hibs need to sort this out. FF lower for singing/standing. Older fans like myself will go every week but the young team want/need atmosphere. If the games are as flat as saturday then the younger fans will simply not bother going. Atmosphere is a huge part of football but especially for younger fans. Im afraid since the east became a stand, apart from the odd occasion, sadly its just not the same.


I remember the terrible atmosphere in the Seated East at the AEK Athens game. Sitting has little to do with it imo, sitting next to your mates definitely does have a factor but the singing section has has a few different positions where they have been allowed a section of the stadium. I get the build it and they may come approach but seating does not necessarily mean no atmosphere. Hampden a week or so back had an amazing atmosphere despite being a terrible stadium. A team getting stuck in and playing to their full potential creates atmosphere not a costly "downgrade" of a part of our stadium at the moment occupied by future supporters.

[DIXIHIBS]

I remember the terrible atmosphere in the Seated East at the AEK Athens game. Sitting has little to do with it imo, sitting next to your mates definitely does have a factor but the singing section has has a few different positions where they have been allowed a section of the stadium. I get the build it and they may come approach but seating does not necessarily mean no atmosphere. Hampden a week or so back had an amazing atmosphere despite being a terrible stadium. A team getting stuck in and playing to their full potential creates atmosphere not a costly "downgrade" of a part of our stadium at the moment occupied by future supporters.
Seating does effect atmosphere. I think nearly everybody stood for the whole athens game. Im not saying seating is necessarily the only problem but you need an area for "singers" to congregate. That was the case for the east before it was changed. Fans who used to be together then got spread around the stadium. Of course you can great atmospheres like hampden last week but that was an exception. Those future supporters you mention are far more likely to come back week after week if there is a better atmosphere. I realise the team plays a huge part in this but saturday was like a morgue. Some fans were getting funny looks coz they dared to stand up and try to encourage the team ffs.

[Fuzzywuzzy]

I like my seat in the FF lower. Those getting moved would be moving to not great seats. I sat at the west the corner of the FFL. Dreadful view of the game

[WhileTheChief..]

All this talk of a singing section makes us sound like a nursery school.

Atmosphere was always better before we had such a thing.

We need to scrap the family section too.

Despite folk on here saying it's popular, hardly anyone sits there. I took a few pics of it on Saturday and can hardly see any kids there at all. It's being abused by way too many folk.

[theonlywayisup]

Dare I suggest that the drumming isn't conducive to getting people to start songs or chanting?

Glad someone else has written this, because that was one of my early observations on Saturday. As soon as the initial cheering at kick-off died away, the two things I noticed was the singing from the away fans and the banging of the drum to a beat that I did not recognise, with no singing audible where I was sitting.

I've said this before and I say it again, there are some songs that are football anthems that fans will belt out and there are others that whilst popular songs don't get fans singing to the same intensity.

The Hanlon "Two nil down at Tiny" song, MB "Starman" song etc are all great songs, popular at away games, but get lost at ER. What's needed is the singing of the basic anthem type songs / chant that everyone knows and the sound reverberates around the stadium. The "Super John McGinn" song is an anthem type song, that most join in and the noise levels increase. "We are Hibernian FC" is another. The "Micky Weir" song was another. These don't need a drum to start the singing!

[wookie70]

Seating does effect atmosphere. I think nearly everybody stood for the whole athens game. Im not saying seating is necessarily the only problem but you need an area for "singers" to congregate. That was the case for the east before it was changed. Fans who used to be together then got spread around the stadium. Of course you can great atmospheres like hampden last week but that was an exception. Those future supporters you mention are far more likely to come back week after week if there is a better atmosphere. I realise the team plays a huge part in this but saturday was like a morgue. Some fans were getting funny looks coz they dared to stand up and try to encourage the team ffs.

You could stand now just as we did at Hampden and nearly always do at Tiny and other away games. The Wotherspoon game was a great atmosphere from what I remember. I sit right opposite where the Singing Section is. They were quiet on Saturday, don't blame them. The Utd fans, around 6-700 I would guess were loud the whole game. They were seated behind the goals and no doubt were sitting next to supporters who they didn't know. If the singing section want it to be louder then they should sing up. If they want the rest of the crowd to join in then they have to know the words. Away fans will as there is usually a good atmosphere when travelling and if you go regularly you will pick up the songs. There is nothing stopping ER from having a great atmosphere now, it has on lots of occasions.

[Weegreenman]

We've been having these threads every season since the old East was flattened and will be having them until Hibs actively sort out the situation.

The situation is pretty ridiculous just now. We've got the singing section stood with the drum numbering about 30-50 in block 45. Then the whole of block 44 sitting. Then you've got a mish-mash of sitting and standing in rear quarter of 43. Its unworkable until the club sort it out, some people will be pissed off about having to move but hey ho they'll get over it. Trial FF lower, commit to East upper, whatever - just commit to a proper singing/standing section.

Good post mate. I agree

[Since90+2]

Let's be honest here, a major part of the issue is we simply aren't a very vocal home crowd these days. Very few Scottish crowds are.

I think making the FF lower standing has the potential to make a bit of a difference, but if people are expecting a huge difference in atmosphere at a run of the mill game they are going to be disappointed.

[OstKurve Hibs]

I’ve been to quite a few stadiums all over Europe were the supporters are loud and still bouncing whether they are winning or losing.

I agree the team needs to do better but we as supporters can do better and it starts by having a whole stand that everyone knows as our singing section.

This in a nutshell, they also dont leave at half time or 15 mins b4 the end en masse

[Since90+2]

This in a nutshell, they also dont leave at half time or 15 mins b4 the end en masse

That's not unique to Hibs within Scottish football though.

Scottish fans are generally pretty crap if we are being totally honest.

[S.sct]

I think we will find that a lot of people will have fallen out of the habit and it will be a while before they get back into it.

Got to agree, I am one of those you describe and feel no desire to return. Wasn't enjoying what I was watching pre-Covid and certainly haven't from watching on TV. The pandemic made the decision for me.

[Shrekko]

That's not unique to Hibs within Scottish football though.

Scottish fans are generally pretty crap if we are being totally honest.

I think you’re right that Scottish football fans are generally pretty dire - which maybe comes from it being such an imbalanced league.

Have to say though - I genuinely do not see the same level of mass clearances in other grounds that you do at ER when we lose a goal or are a couple of goals behind with 15-20 mins left.

It’s everyone’s choice in terms of what you want to do on a Saturday but crowds sticking with a team can make a big difference. Don’t think watching most of the crowd leave with plenty time left is going to help inspire strong finishes to a game.

Before Saturday things seems reasonably good …what exactly will it take to motivate our fans to turn up and then back the team?

[wookie70]

That's not unique to Hibs within Scottish football though.

Scottish fans are generally pretty crap if we are being totally honest.


Apart from turning up to watch their team, they are pretty much the best in the world per capita for that.

[wookie70]

Have to say though - I genuinely do not see the same level of mass clearances in other grounds that you do at ER when we lose a goal or are a couple of goals behind with 15-20 mins left.


There is a mass clear out at Ibrox around that time when they are winning! Most grounds empty when the result is beyond doubt, as it was on Saturday. When the team totally capitulates the fans typically do too. We are no better or worse than most fans in Scotland.

[the tornadoe]

This is ultimately what needs to happen imo. Can be moved to the east where lots of the young lads currently are and it would look phenomenal on tv.

Agree.... you really do need to crack a few eggs to make an omelette. There will be a few fans not happy but at the end of the day we need an atmosphere at home games and this would certainly help..

[Since90+2]

Apart from turning up to watch their team, they are pretty much the best in the world per capita for that.

The thread is about atmosphere not attendance.

[LaMotta]

Ach ..... don't even have to read the thread. Until the 'singing' section become a safe standing area in the FF lower we will constantly see threads like this one, how many has there been over the last 20 years?

It's at the back of the East .... can hardly hear them, outsung by the tiny away support.

It's at the front of the East .... can hardly hear them, outsung by the tiny away support.

It's at the top corner of the FF upper .... cant see them, cant hear them, outsung by the tiny away support.

It's in the far corner of the East ,,, cant hear them, outsung by the tiny away support ... I acknowledge, decent United support on Saturday for once, so not tiny.

To say the singing section is so small it will never fill the FF lower as a standing section is nonsense .... the only thing that's going to encourage folk to become part of it and see it grow is to move it to a standing area compromising the whole of the FF lower where folk will want to be part of it. Move them there, make it standing and watch it grow and grow.

:agree:

Quite disheartening to see some of the responses.

People saying its the teams performance that dictates atmosphere - well thats only part of the reason and its also largely uncontrollable.

One thing that is is controllable is where the signing section is located to give the best possible chance for a relatively small amount of fans to be vocally and visually buoyant and help create that atmosphere when the team needs it.

Easter Road can be an uninspiring place when things are not going well and there are loads of empty seats, particularly behind the goal. Its largely accepted by neutrals that, despite it being basic, Tynecastle is the best stadium in Scotland for generating atmosphere. I don't know why we wouldnt want to try something different to improve things at ER.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Well said ! That is were the singing section should be, it's obvious. I also agree with your comment on that is were any safe standing should be. It would surely help the atmosphere at Easter Road ?

Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.

[Peevemor]

Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.That's not the case. The old East was noisy when you were in the old East. If you were sitting in the West the noise coming from the other side of the ground wasn't that loud.

[Keith_M]

Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.


If that's true, then how come the fans in the away end were so loud on Saturday?

:dunno:


I'm not quite sure where people get the idea from that we used to have an amazing atmosphere and that's suddenly disappeared, as the atmosphere at most games against the smaller sides has mostly been poor for the last 40 years that I know of.

The truth is that the majority of fans that attend home games rarely get involved in the singing, unless it's against the OF or their local rivals. That's true of all clubs, not just Hibs.

The young guys in Section 45 are at least making an effort and I definitely applaud them for that. I personally think there would be games with a bit if a flat atmosphere no matter what part of the stadium they're in, especially if we play as badly as Saturday.

[lord bunberry]

If that's true, then how come the fans in the away end were so loud on Saturday?

:dunno:


I'm not quite sure where people get the idea from that we used to have an amazing atmosphere and that's suddenly disappeared, as the atmosphere at most games against the smaller sides has mostly been poor for the last 40 years that I know of.

The truth is that the majority of fans that attend home games rarely get involved in the singing, unless it's against the OF or their local rivals. That's true of all clubs, not just Hibs.

The young guys in Section 45 are at least making an effort and I definitely applaud them for that. I personally think there would be games with a bit if a flat atmosphere no matter what part of the stadium they're in, especially if we play as badly as Saturday.
:top marks

[B.H.F.C]

If that's true, then how come the fans in the away end were so loud on Saturday?

:dunno:


I'm not quite sure where people get the idea from that we used to have an amazing atmosphere and that's suddenly disappeared, as the atmosphere at most games against the smaller sides has mostly been poor for the last 40 years that I know of.

The truth is that the majority of fans that attend home games rarely get involved in the singing, unless it's against the OF or their local rivals. That's true of all clubs, not just Hibs.

The young guys in Section 45 are at least making an effort and I definitely applaud them for that. I personally think there would be games with a bit if a flat atmosphere no matter what part of the stadium they're in, especially if we play as badly as Saturday.

Run of the mill league games have always been quite flat, agree with that.

Saturday felt a bit different though. This is a Hibs team that is meant to be doing well though. The place is empty and there was just no buzz about the place at the weekend.

I do think it’s time that they tried something different and moved the family section. The Famous Five lower wasn’t even at 50% capacity on Saturday.

[007]

If Ron gets his way and gets booze back in the stadium it'll help the atmosphere a bit. A few that might not have gone to the pub before kick off will have a drink or 2 at the stadium and those who go to the pub before can top themselves up at half time and be in the mood for a wee sing song in the 2nd half.

[Pretty Boy]

Run of the mill league games have always been quite flat, agree with that.

Saturday felt a bit different though. This is a Hibs team that is meant to be doing well though. The place is empty and there was just no buzz about the place at the weekend.

I do think it’s time that they tried something different and moved the family section. The Famous Five lower wasn’t even at 50% capacity on Saturday.

I'm not even sure many families are all that attracted to the FF lower these days.

I've started taking my 4 year old this year and we sit in the FF Upper. There are loads of kids around us and I don't think the kids tickets up there are that much more than the family section. I started going to games sitting on the benches in the old cowshed. Then I sat in the FF lower when it was built. The thought of moving back there even now I have a child of my own never even crossed my mind.

I get it's not nice for people to be forcibly moved from their seat but it happened to me when we got tossed out of section 25 with no consultation from the club. They weren't prime seats but it was a good group and I was sad to move. I survived though and like where I sit now, I'm sure others would cope if they had to move to try something different as well.

[B.H.F.C]

I'm not even sure many families are all that attracted to the FF lower these days.

I've started taking my 4 year old this year and we sit in the FF Upper. There are loads of kids around us and I don't think the kids tickets up there are that much more than the family section. I started going to games sitting on the benches in the old cowshed. Then I sat in the FF lower when it was built. The thought of moving back there even now I have a child of my own never even crossed my mind.

I get it's not nice for people to be forcibly moved from their seat but it happened to me when we got tossed out of section 25 with no consultation from the club. They weren't prime seats but it was a good group and I was sad to move. I survived though and like where I sit now, I'm sure others would cope if they had to move to try something different as well.

I think they could quite easily create a family section elsewhere, be it the end of the east or whatever. Or alternatively, they just do away with a family section. I sit in the middle of the East and there are plenty bairns in there.

I think there are bigger reasons than where a singing section is located behind the lack of atmosphere but, equally, I like the idea of trying to do something with the FF lower.

[Keith_M]

Run of the mill league games have always been quite flat, agree with that.

Saturday felt a bit different though. This is a Hibs team that is meant to be doing well though. The place is empty and there was just no buzz about the place at the weekend.

I do think it’s time that they tried something different and moved the family section. The Famous Five lower wasn’t even at 50% capacity on Saturday.


👍

[jacomo]

Of course it would. Deep down everyone on here knows it too.
In the championship days sides like Greenock bloody Morton would turn up with about 200 fans and make a racket.
Where the fans are stood singing is all important these days. We did away with the only stand with any acoustics when we tore down the old east.


The old East sounded good if you were in it. All the rest of the stadium heard was a muffled, incomprehensible cacophony, as the sound bounced around inside it.

[WhileTheChief..]

Atmosphere isn't just about singing.

Where's the collective cheers, groans and shouts at incidents throughout the games? Used to happen all the time, now, not so much.

Sometimes there's a cracking atmosphere in the ground without songs. It's raw passion coming through from loads of people shouting or gasping for breath as a shot goes wide etc.

I know I shouldn't mention it, but under Lennon, ER was buzzing most weeks. Even walking into or out of the stadium there was a feeling of excitement. (this isn't having a go at JR before you jump on me!).

If there's stuff to shout about on the pitch, we'll shout about it. Same as most fans everywhere.

[Pretty Boy]

Atmosphere isn't just about singing.

Where's the collective cheers, groans and shouts at incidents throughout the games? Used to happen all the time, now, not so much.

Sometimes there's a cracking atmosphere in the ground without songs. It's raw passion coming through from loads of people shouting or gasping for breath as a shot goes wide etc.

I know I shouldn't mention it, but under Lennon, ER was buzzing most weeks. Even walking into or out of the stadium there was a feeling of excitement. (this isn't having a go at JR before you jump on me!).

If there's stuff to shout about on the pitch, we'll shout about it. Same as most fans everywhere.

It's an interesting point.

What was the game with the horrendous ref at ER this year? Was it St Mirren? That certainly got the fans going. Not so much singing but the collective abuse of the ref generated plenty noise.

[Tambo]

It's an interesting point.

What was the game with the horrendous ref at ER this year? Was it St Mirren? That certainly got the fans going. Not so much singing but the collective abuse of the ref generated plenty noise.

St Johnstone which to be fair wasn't that bad an atmosphere if I remember correctly.

[JohnM1875]

St Johnstone which to be fair wasn't that bad an atmosphere if I remember correctly.

St Johnstone was decent enough actually. Even a wee bit west upper participation.

Expected Saturday to be a lot more lively, especially to combat the noise the Utd fans were making, which was really impressive so fair play to them. But with how poorly we played I wasn't surprised with how flat the fans were. Seemed like we were all shocked at how weak a performance we put in.

Hooefully be rocking next Wednesday for the other uglies though.

[wookie70]

Atmosphere isn't just about singing.

Where's the collective cheers, groans and shouts at incidents throughout the games? Used to happen all the time, now, not so much.

Sometimes there's a cracking atmosphere in the ground without songs. It's raw passion coming through from loads of people shouting or gasping for breath as a shot goes wide etc.

I know I shouldn't mention it, but under Lennon, ER was buzzing most weeks. Even walking into or out of the stadium there was a feeling of excitement. (this isn't having a go at JR before you jump on me!).

If there's stuff to shout about on the pitch, we'll shout about it. Same as most fans everywhere.

That is a great point although it wasn't buzzing when we were in freefall and in some games not any better than Saturday. The atmosphere was very poor in that respect at the weekend but as the players weren't breathing that hard most of the fans probably couldn't be bothered either.

I don't think the singing section moving yet again would make the blindest bit of difference to the atmosphere for the ground as a whole. It may cost a few players wages for a season or two which could hurt the atmosphere further. Those in it might enjoy it but I doubt that many would gravitate to one of the worst views in the ground, where they don't get a seat and miles away from the away support.

In reply to other posters the emptiest part of the FF wasn't the lower section but the upper right part which the signing section vacated.

[Keith_M]

St Johnstone which to be fair wasn't that bad an atmosphere if I remember correctly.






That's definitely what's missing, bad Referees

:greengrin

[BegbieHSC]

I find the fan culture difference between Scottish fans and European fans very interesting.

Evidently, with the push for safe standing, the displays, the marches, there is a drive from the likes of Since 1875, the Green Brigade, Motherwell boys etc to appear and model themselves after European Ultras.

What all the fan groups in Scotland are incapable of doing seemingly is continuing to cheer and boisterously support their team when the going gets tough. Lots of European Ultras keep supporting the team loudly, regardless of whether the team is putting on a horrific display. Since 1875 had packed up and gone, like many of us as soon as the 3rd goal went in.

I can’t stop thinking of Dortmund fans bouncing after getting beat 0-3 by Bayern at the Signa Iduna https://youtu.be/kUrtWli6oWo
Dortmund won the league the year before that video, so can hardly argue it’s just down to them being used to routine thrashings from Bayern. It’s just how these groups support their teams - non stop in the stadium.

I’m unsure if it’s something in our footballing culture, because I couldn’t personally belt out a song to support a team putting in a gutless, shambolic performance, and I doubt rowdy, noisey Hibs fans would have helped turn around our shambolic display on Saturday.

I just find the difference intriguing, and if our singing section really want to be like their European counterparts, they should try and not succumb to the collective despair the rest of us do.

[swordin3]

I think as a support we are as passionate as others but we tent to ask for at least what looks like effort ,good football,attacking prowess and ultimately a good result.We as fans rightly expect to be entertained and
When we are not we are vocal or demand better which is fair.Sometimes we can let ourselves down by getting personal with certain players which is not acceptable.We as fans have been disappointed in every single way over the years and these scars are thre to see in our support. It's up to the Players, fans machday DJ's to get an atmosphere going it takes everyone as we are a team.Fact

[blackpoolhibs]

Football has changed over the years, you rarely get a good thumping tackle, or an up and at them style of play.

What we have now is a game played at walking pace for large parts of the game, and a possession based style that rarely works unless there is a mistake somewhere.

I think this has a big part in folk feeling less enthusiastic these days, and why the need for certain parts of the ground being classed as librarys.

[The Modfather]

I find the fan culture difference between Scottish fans and European fans very interesting.

Evidently, with the push for safe standing, the displays, the marches, there is a drive from the likes of Since 1875, the Green Brigade, Motherwell boys etc to appear and model themselves after European Ultras.

What all the fan groups in Scotland are incapable of doing seemingly is continuing to cheer and boisterously support their team when the going gets tough. Lots of European Ultras keep supporting the team loudly, regardless of whether the team is putting on a horrific display. Since 1875 had packed up and gone, like many of us as soon as the 3rd goal went in.

I can’t stop thinking of Dortmund fans bouncing after getting beat 0-3 by Bayern at the Signa Iduna https://youtu.be/kUrtWli6oWo
Dortmund won the league the year before that video, so can hardly argue it’s just down to them being used to routine thrashings from Bayern. It’s just how these groups support their teams - non stop in the stadium.

I’m unsure if it’s something in our footballing culture, because I couldn’t personally belt out a song to support a team putting in a gutless, shambolic performance, and I doubt rowdy, noisey Hibs fans would have helped turn around our shambolic display on Saturday.

I just find the difference intriguing, and if our singing section really want to be like their European counterparts, they should try and not succumb to the collective despair the rest of us do.

I’ve seen criticism on here of the Tartan Army for continuing to sing, dance and enjoy ourselves despite the result on our trips.

I’ve no real interest in singing anymore and happy to sit there until it’s time to fold and put away my tartan blanket. I’ve no real gripes with the atmosphere. If folk want to sing great, if folk don’t want to that’s fine too and they can have one of my worthers originals. I’d not have a problem with an ultras style atmosphere where they sing and drum all game regardless of what’s going on, other than it feeling a little forced IMO. I do think that events on the park are the biggest driver for atmosphere as others have said.

[miy00015]

Don’t post here often cause feel like a lot can turn into a bunfight but here.


The atmosphere at Easter Road is very poor. In my opinion this is for a fair few reasons.


First is we simply don’t play exciting football, in fact we kind of mirror what teams did to us in previous seasons 15/16/17 where we sit down and time waste once in the lead.

The second is the singing section have been chucked about the stadium and really need to be somewhere in S43 or right behind the goals in the FF (I know this opens a can of worms) I honestly think safe standing in the lower FF would be incredible and I would move there if it was implemented.

The third thing is the pre match music and build up kills any potential atmosphere stone dead. That and now the advertisements every few minutes which drowns out anything from the home support at the moment. (This isn’t to slate the announcer he’s great at beg engaged with the support I just think pre match can be a lot softer)

There’s probably a few more things that escape me right now but I agree that many are priced out of the games/season tickets. This is another reason I hope safe standing is implemented, may have an area of reduced prices.


Please feel free to tell me I’m talking guff

[Keith_M]

If Ron gets his way and gets booze back in the stadium it'll help the atmosphere a bit. A few that might not have gone to the pub before kick off will have a drink or 2 at the stadium and those who go to the pub before can top themselves up at half time and be in the mood for a wee sing song in the 2nd half.


Get everybody p1ssed, sounds like a plan to me

:aok:



I may have mentioned this once or fifty times before but, I still think they should introduce cheerleaders as well

:greengrin

[Antifa Hibs]

I remember the terrible atmosphere in the Seated East at the AEK Athens game. Sitting has little to do with it imo, sitting next to your mates definitely does have a factor but the singing section has has a few different positions where they have been allowed a section of the stadium. I get the build it and they may come approach but seating does not necessarily mean no atmosphere. Hampden a week or so back had an amazing atmosphere despite being a terrible stadium. A team getting stuck in and playing to their full potential creates atmosphere not a costly "downgrade" of a part of our stadium at the moment occupied by future supporters.

The fact the only memorable game for atmosphere thats constantly brought up here and amongst Hibs fans was 20 years ago surely proves how bad things are!?

And i don't get the downgrading part? The Aberdeen red shed is still an all seater stand but designated as a standing area. The Broamloan lower is all seated yet has 4000 stood every game....

[Antifa Hibs]

If that's true, then how come the fans in the away end were so loud on Saturday?

:dunno:


I'm not quite sure where people get the idea from that we used to have an amazing atmosphere and that's suddenly disappeared, as the atmosphere at most games against the smaller sides has mostly been poor for the last 40 years that I know of.

The truth is that the majority of fans that attend home games rarely get involved in the singing, unless it's against the OF or their local rivals. That's true of all clubs, not just Hibs.

The young guys in Section 45 are at least making an effort and I definitely applaud them for that. I personally think there would be games with a bit if a flat atmosphere no matter what part of the stadium they're in, especially if we play as badly as Saturday.

Thats true for most home games on the planet including countries like Italy and Germany. However most clubs have common sense to put singers and standers alike in one section to increase and maximise the atmosphere.

[Libby Hibby]

I think a dedicated standing / singing section would definitely help.

Condense the FF lower to the 1st 3 sections from the main stand and use the 2 sections nearest the East for singing / standing and watch this area grow.

Something positive will come of this.

[Keith_M]

I was just reading a press release from Aberdeen where they said that on average, 35% of Season Tickets holders are missing at home games.

I'd be interested to know what the equivalent is at ER as the stadium often looks a lot more empty than the announced attendance would suggest.

[Keith_M]

Thats true for most home games on the planet including countries like Italy and Germany. However most clubs have common sense to put singers and standers alike in one section to increase and maximise the atmosphere.


Agreed, let's make it Section 43.

:aok:

[Shrekko]

I was just reading a press release from Aberdeen where they said that on average, 35% of Season Tickets holders are missing at home games.

I'd be interested to know what the equivalent is at ER as the stadium often looks a lot more empty than the announced attendance would suggest.

Must surely be about the same at ER? I’d be very surprised if there was as many as 10,000 there on Saturday.

[hibee-boys]

Must surely be about the same at ER? I’d be very surprised if there was as many as 10,000 there on Saturday.

Not only are there less season ticket holders turning up there is less walk up fans buying tickets, we’ve not come anywhere near selling out a home game at ER this season, and that’s just our ends, we’ve had over spill into the away plenty times in the recent past. I suppose this will remain the case whilst people can tune in from home and/or walk up fans can watch through PPV, I see the club are advertising that for next weeks game.

[HibeeHibernian4]

Not only are there less season ticket holders turning up there is less walk up fans buying tickets, we’ve not come anywhere near selling out a home game at ER this season, and that’s just our ends, we’ve had over spill into the away plenty times in the recent past. I suppose this will remain the case whilst people can tune in from home and/or walk up fans can watch through PPV, I see the club are advertising that for next weeks game.

Because our chairman has made it the best part of £30 a game.

[Jones28]

Because our chairman has made it the best part of £30 a game.

That’s my standpoint, I will have to plan trips to games and probably won’t bother when it’s the old firm.

[Hibs90]

Because our chairman has made it the best part of £30 a game.

Not necessarily his decision unless you know otherwise?

[SChibs]

I find the fan culture difference between Scottish fans and European fans very interesting.

Evidently, with the push for safe standing, the displays, the marches, there is a drive from the likes of Since 1875, the Green Brigade, Motherwell boys etc to appear and model themselves after European Ultras.

What all the fan groups in Scotland are incapable of doing seemingly is continuing to cheer and boisterously support their team when the going gets tough. Lots of European Ultras keep supporting the team loudly, regardless of whether the team is putting on a horrific display. Since 1875 had packed up and gone, like many of us as soon as the 3rd goal went in.

I can’t stop thinking of Dortmund fans bouncing after getting beat 0-3 by Bayern at the Signa Iduna https://youtu.be/kUrtWli6oWo
Dortmund won the league the year before that video, so can hardly argue it’s just down to them being used to routine thrashings from Bayern. It’s just how these groups support their teams - non stop in the stadium.

I’m unsure if it’s something in our footballing culture, because I couldn’t personally belt out a song to support a team putting in a gutless, shambolic performance, and I doubt rowdy, noisey Hibs fans would have helped turn around our shambolic display on Saturday.

I just find the difference intriguing, and if our singing section really want to be like their European counterparts, they should try and not succumb to the collective despair the rest of us do.

The main difference is fans in Europe go to games to support and get behind the team first and foremost whereas fans in Scotland go to watch a game of football. It's 100% a mentality thing.

How many folk on here moan about the atmosphere being poor but do nothing at the game to make it any better? Go up and sit with the section and help them make more noise and grow to improve the atmosphere. The view from the sides of the East further back are fine so that's not an excuse

[LaMotta]

Brondby fans look tremendous packed into that corner at Ibrox.

That's what we need to visualise for the Famous five signing/standing section:cb