Head of Recruitment

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Ron's son, unbelievable.

[Crunchie]

Ron's son, unbelievable.
Being debated extensively on the Graham Mathie thread :aok:

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Being debated extensively on the Graham Mathie thread :aok:

So I see now, but deserves its own thread, genuinely shocked.

[Jones28]

So I see now, but deserves its own thread, genuinely shocked.

Why?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Why?

Why what?

[MyJo]

Why what?

i think he is asking why your shocked that RG’s son has been given a role within the club?

[Since90+2]

i think he is asking why your shocked that RG’s son has been given a role within the club?

Because he doesn't appear to have any relevant experience for the role he's been given.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

Because he doesn't appear to have any relevant experience for the role he's been given.

And the manner of it as well - being let slip quietly.

[GonzoReturns]

Father owns club employs son could argue he’s here long term including his family and giving his son (who could take over in the future) an opportunity to learn the business. Personally I think it could be a good thing.

He’s smart enough not to throw his son under a bus. Time will tell.

[Vault Boy]

If it's us putting an official label on the work he's already been doing, I'd be a bit more comfortable with this.

If it's a normal appointment for a position we've been actively trying to recruit for, then it's a red flag. That's not to say Ian can't be a perfectly capable and talented Head of Recruitment, but until he displays that, this appointment will be widely labelled as cronyism.

We should have announced it.

[MyJo]

Because he doesn't appear to have any relevant experience for the role he's been given.

I don’t know anything about him, what did he do for a living previously?

[Lendo]

Whilst I’m a little worried about the apparent cronyism his role might be more of the people management side instead of the actual scouting and recruitment.

Who knows, time will tell.

[St.Kristopher]

He was behind the Charleston Battery link and also the Mueller transfer. He was also praised highly at the time by Mathie in the press.

[WhileTheChief..]

Never seen the phrase ‘Time will tell’ used so often!

[Since90+2]

I don’t know anything about him, what did he do for a living previously?

Pretty certain he's not had a role in British football at any level whatsoever previously. Considering that's 90% of our market for recruitment it's a very strange appointment.

[Since452]

Ron's son, unbelievable.

Is it really unbelievable? He will probably end up owning the club in the future.

[MyJo]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/graeme-mathies-hibs-exit-analysed-transfer-window-played-part-but-writing-was-on-wall-success-must-be-remembered-3387818%3famp

This article suggests that Ian Gordon was the one reviewing the overall structure of the club and the various departments which obviously led to the decision that Mathies role was not needed.

Maybe his role as head of recruitment has a wider spec than simply signing players which is what people are assuming. We’re growing as a club and we have dozens of different departments with hundreds of employees behind the scenes now, there needs to be the right structure in place for that and we’ve seen loads of jobs being advertised at the club recently so it might be as simple as him overseeing this side of things as opposed to being the one tasked with identifying and signing players alone.

From what I’ve read it sounds like Kensall wants to have a more hands-on role in signing players alongside the manager anyway.

[MyJo]

Pretty certain he's not had a role in British football at any level whatsoever previously. Considering that's 90% of our market for recruitment it's a very strange appointment.

Neither has Ivan Kepcija but we seem to be happy with the prospect of linking up with him for player recruitment in some form according to this?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-join-forces-with-former-hajduk-split-and-legia-warsaw-man-ivan-kepcija-in-bid-to-boost-player-recruitment-3329480%3famp

Funnily enough this guys also listed on Linkdin as our head of recruitment - maybe it’s some sort of honorary title lol

[Since90+2]

Neither has Ivan Kepcija but we seem to be happy with the prospect of linking up with him for player recruitment in some form according to this?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-join-forces-with-former-hajduk-split-and-legia-warsaw-man-ivan-kepcija-in-bid-to-boost-player-recruitment-3329480%3famp

Funnily enough this guys also listed on Linkdin as our head of recruitment - maybe it’s some sort of honorary title lol

Not even comparable in the slightest.

One is a guy involved in a link up in a pretty obscure area for recruitment and not even employed by Hibs and the other is now the Head of Recruitment at the football club.

Again, he's had literally no involvement, to the best of my knowledge, with British football previously where 90% of our recruitment is from.

[Allant1981]

Not even comparable in the slightest.

One is a guy involved in a link up in a pretty obscure area for recruitment and not even employed by Hibs and the other is now the Head of Recruitment at the football club.

Again, he's had literally no involvement, to the best of my knowledge, with British football previously where 90% of our recruitment is from.

So maybe the club are keen to start thinking outside the box when it comes to recruitment, so many people on here panic at the slightest wee thing

[J-C]

Could it simply be head of recruitment means sign the players identified by the recruitment team and manager and get then done instead of faffing about last minute. We have people already in place to do the scouting and analysing stuff, we just need someone to get the signatures on the papers.

[tamig]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/graeme-mathies-hibs-exit-analysed-transfer-window-played-part-but-writing-was-on-wall-success-must-be-remembered-3387818%3famp

This article suggests that Ian Gordon was the one reviewing the overall structure of the club and the various departments which obviously led to the decision that Mathies role was not needed.

Maybe his role as head of recruitment has a wider spec than simply signing players which is what people are assuming. We’re growing as a club and we have dozens of different departments with hundreds of employees behind the scenes now, there needs to be the right structure in place for that and we’ve seen loads of jobs being advertised at the club recently so it might be as simple as him overseeing this side of things as opposed to being the one tasked with identifying and signing players alone.

From what I’ve read it sounds like Kensall wants to have a more hands-on role in signing players alongside the manager anyway.

A question I raised on the Mathie thread - only to be assured it was football recruitment. Where the poster got that info from though I have no idea. It could be a much wider recruitment role he’s been tasked with.

[bingo70]

Not even comparable in the slightest.

One is a guy involved in a link up in a pretty obscure area for recruitment and not even employed by Hibs and the other is now the Head of Recruitment at the football club.

Again, he's had literally no involvement, to the best of my knowledge, with British football previously where 90% of our recruitment is from.

Maybe we don’t want 90% of our recruitment going forward from the UK?

[Since90+2]

Maybe we don’t want 90% of our recruitment going forward from the UK?

It will always be the main source of recruitment. Would be mad to think otherwise, especially since Brexit.

[CapitalGreen]

It will always be the main source of recruitment. Would be mad to think otherwise, especially since Brexit.

Have we sacked all our recruitment analysts?

[Sir David Gray]

I don't like this at all, it's a huge red flag for me, particularly with it not being formally announced by the club as far as I'm aware.

It's a pretty worrying development for me and a massive risk by Ron Gordon, if it doesn't work out he'll come in for a lot criticism for this.

[Gatecrasher]

I don't like this at all, it's a huge red flag for me, particularly with it not being formally announced by the club as far as I'm aware.

It's a pretty worrying development for me and a massive risk by Ron Gordon, if it doesn't work out he'll come in for a lot criticism for this.

Agreed, very strange and risky. :agree:

[Since90+2]

I don't like this at all, it's a huge red flag for me, particularly with it not being formally announced by the club as far as I'm aware.

It's a pretty worrying development for me and a massive risk by Ron Gordon, if it doesn't work out he'll come in for a lot criticism for this.

I'm not as worried as you but I understand the sentiments, it looks to me as though it's a father giving his son a way into the football industry that from the outside in looks as though he isn't qualified for.

It doesn't look great, but IMO Ron has enough merit in the tank not to be too worried.

[Sir David Gray]

I'm not as worried as you but I understand the sentiments, it looks to me as though it's a father giving his son a way into the football industry that from the outside in looks as though he isn't qualified for.

It doesn't look great, but IMO Ron has enough merit in the tank not to be too worried.

I just think the way that it's happened and fans just finding out only because they happened to come across it on the club directory on the website looks really shifty.

I expect complete transparency from the club on issues like this. Whether or not that was the intention, the silence from the club about this appointment just makes it seem like rich daddy giving his son a job.

[Peevemor]

I don't like this at all, it's a huge red flag for me, particularly with it not being formally announced by the club as far as I'm aware.

It's a pretty worrying development for me and a massive risk by Ron Gordon, if it doesn't work out he'll come in for a lot criticism for this.He's already being criticised.

[Lago]

Why what?
Why are you shocked?

[bingo70]

I just think the way that it's happened and fans just finding out only because they happened to come across it on the club directory on the website looks really shifty.

I expect complete transparency from the club on issues like this. Whether or not that was the intention, the silence from the club about this appointment just makes it seem like rich daddy giving his son a job.

I don’t mean this to sound as flippant as it does but so what?

The optics of it aren’t good but it’s not a particularly important position. Even if he’s terrible, there’s still a scouting team, the manager will still have loads of contacts and the chief executive will still pull rank over him.

If it’s daddy shoe horning his boy into a job he’d otherwise not have got it doesn’t look great but In that role i can’t see him causing that big an issue. As others have pointed out, it may even be beneficial if he’s got access to the bank accounts.

My only concern is if he’s a dick and him and Jack Ross clash, don’t think there’s any suggestion at this stage that’s something we need to worry about just yet though.

[Lago]

Pretty certain he's not had a role in British football at any level whatsoever previously. Considering that's 90% of our market for recruitment it's a very strange appointment.
And maybe Ron feels we need to expand our recruitment search areas, rather 90% UK.

[Since90+2]

And maybe Ron feels we need to expand our recruitment search areas, rather 90% UK.

The UK will always be our main market, even if it drops to 75% that won't change. To appoint someone who is ultimately in charge of our footballing recruitment who's got no experience, at any level whatsoever, of our main market is not a good idea IMO.

He's appointed him because he's his son, let's just be honest about that. Do we honestly think we would appoint a guy who's never worked in the game as our head of recruitment if he wasn't? Of course not.

[Sir David Gray]

He's already being criticised.

Yes but if it ends up being a success all will be forgotten.

[Since90+2]

I don’t mean this to sound as flippant as it does but so what?

The optics of it aren’t good but it’s not a particularly important position. Even if he’s terrible, there’s still a scouting team, the manager will still have loads of contacts and the chief executive will still pull rank over him.

If it’s daddy shoe horning his boy into a job he’d otherwise not have got it doesn’t look great but In that role i can’t see him causing that big an issue. As others have pointed out, it may even be beneficial if he’s got access to the bank accounts.

My only concern is if he’s a dick and him and Jack Ross clash, don’t think there’s any suggestion at this stage that’s something we need to worry about just yet though.

Head of Footballing recruitment isn't a particularly important position at a football club?

[bingo70]

Head of Footballing recruitment isn't a particularly important position at a football club?

Depending on the structure, not really.

There’s a recruitment team below him so it’s effectively people management and a file carrier between the admin team and the management.

He’s not about to get free reign to just sign who he wants.

[Barney McGrew]

Could it simply be head of recruitment means sign the players identified by the recruitment team and manager and get then done instead of faffing about last minute. We have people already in place to do the scouting and analysing stuff, we just need someone to get the signatures on the papers.

That would make perfect sense. Leave the business part to the business people, which is where it looks like we fell down on in the summer window.

[Since90+2]

Depending on the structure, not really.

There’s a recruitment team below him so it’s effectively people management and a file carrier between the admin team and the management.

He’s not about to get free reign to just sign who he wants.

Don't agree with that at all. A Head of Recruitment is a file carrier? I've never heard of it labeled that before.

The Head of Recruitment is probably the most important person at a football club behind the Head Coach and CEO.

If it's a role in name only as he has other people who are more important then what is the point in having a role at that level of seniority and the salary it likely commands.

[bingo70]

That would Meade perfect sense. Leave the business part to the business people, which is where it looks like we fell down on in the summer window.

I’m pretty relaxed about this. I do think the club could be communicating the mew roles better.

The post you’ve quoted makes sense to me and if that is the case, the club should just say that

[Jim44]

Ron's son, unbelievable.

Recruitment has to start with JR and be administered and completed by an appointed club official. I don’t think that person has to necessarily be a ‘football’ person. Essentially that person has to have the skill and ability to follow protocols and administrative requirements. It suggests that the previous incumbent was unable to fulfil that role satisfactorily.

[bingo70]

Don't agree with that at all. A Head of Recruitment is a file carrier? I've never heard of it labeled that before.

The Head of Recruitment is probably the most important person at a football club behind the Head Coach and CEO.

If it's a role in name only as he has other people who are more important then what is the point in having a role at that level of seniority and the salary is likely commands.

What salary does it command?

He’s the owners son so he’d have influence regardless of the seniority of his title.

What is your big fear here? Do you think we’ll just start signing rubbish because he doesn’t know what he’s doing?

Ross will still be able to veto any deals and most of the signings we make are people Ross is already familiar with so probably found by himself anyway.

[MWHIBBIES]

No idea why the position is playing played down. He is head of recruiting players. Take the job title at face value instead of speculating, it's one of the most important roles at the club.

You wouldn't say "head coach isn't important, there is still loads of other coaches and the players can manage themselves" so why is this different?

[Since90+2]

What salary does it command?

He’s the owners son so he’d have influence regardless of the seniority of his title.

What is your big fear here? Do you think we’ll just start signing rubbish because he doesn’t know what he’s doing?

Ross will still be able to veto any deals and most of the signings we make are people Ross is already familiar with so probably found by himself anyway.

There's no immediate big fear. As I've said it looks to me like a father giving his son a foot in the door into British football with a significant role at one of the biggest clubs in Scotland. I like Ron and everything he's done for the club suggests to me we are in good hands, at the same time it doesn't mean we can't be outspoken when it's clearly a leg up to a relative.

He's not qualified for the role. Considering he has no experience of British or Scottish football I'm not sure that can be denied.

[Since90+2]

No idea why the position is playing played down. He is head of recruiting players. Take the job title at face value instead of speculating, it's one of the most important roles at the club.

You wouldn't say "head coach isn't important, there is still loads of other coaches and the players can manage themselves" so why is this different?

Exactly. It's one of the most senior roles at the club. Actually baffled someone could label the Head of Recruitment as a file carrier.

[bingo70]

No idea why the position is playing played down. He is head of recruiting players. Take the job title at face value instead of speculating, it's one of the most important roles at the club.

You wouldn't say "head coach isn't important, there is still loads of other coaches and the players can manage themselves" so why is this different?

I think people have just got faith in Gordon not spending millions on buying us, running us pretty well and then handing over recruitment to his son with no safeguards in place to stop him just being mental and signing all his pals on £10k a week.

There’s a structure in place with a recruitment team for a reason.

He’s given his son a job he wouldn’t have got in other circumstances but I do think there’s limited damage he can do there, even if he’s absolutely hopeless.

[bingo70]

Exactly. It's one of the most senior roles at the club. Actually baffled someone could label the Head of Recruitment as a file carrier.

Why?

Do you think he or Jack Ross will make final decisions on signing players? Look past the actual job title and ask what it is he’s likely to be doing. He’s unlikely to do any harm.

[MWHIBBIES]

I think people have just got faith in Gordon not spending millions on buying us, running us pretty well and then handing over recruitment to his son with no safeguards in place to stop him just being mental and signing all his pals on £10k a week.

There’s a structure in place with a recruitment team for a reason.

He’s given his son a job he wouldn’t have got in other circumstances but I do think there’s limited damage he can do there, even if he’s absolutely hopeless.

Gordon owns the club, there is basically no limit to the damage that he could do. Now, I'm not thinking that will happen, but this is a red flag.

[Sir David Gray]

I don’t mean this to sound as flippant as it does but so what?

The optics of it aren’t good but it’s not a particularly important position. Even if he’s terrible, there’s still a scouting team, the manager will still have loads of contacts and the chief executive will still pull rank over him.

If it’s daddy shoe horning his boy into a job he’d otherwise not have got it doesn’t look great but In that role i can’t see him causing that big an issue. As others have pointed out, it may even be beneficial if he’s got access to the bank accounts.

My only concern is if he’s a dick and him and Jack Ross clash, don’t think there’s any suggestion at this stage that’s something we need to worry about just yet though.

I just don't like it, it's sending pretty big alarm bells to me.

Hopefully my fears prove to be unfounded.

[Since90+2]

Why?

Do you think he or Jack Ross will make final decisions on signing players? Look past the actual job title and ask what it is he’s likely to be doing. He’s unlikely to do any harm.

Why am I baffled you've labeled our Head of Recruitment a file carrier? I think that's pretty self explanatory.

[MWHIBBIES]

Why?

Do you think he or Jack Ross will make final decisions on signing players? Look past the actual job title and ask what it is he’s likely to be doing. He’s unlikely to do any harm.

You are purely speculating about him doing no harm. He could clearly do a lot of harm. He's in a very important position. Scouts likely report to him, he sets assignments, makes decisions, speaks to agents, must play some part in negotiations etc. If he is clueless it could have a clear negative impact

[Rumble de Thump]

What is it people imagine he will actually be doing? I hope this isn't the start of another flag debate.

[Since90+2]

What is it people imagine he will actually be doing? I hope this isn't the start of another flag debate.

Fulfilling the role of Head of Recruitment? So leading the recruitment for the football department at the club.

Unless he's just been given that title bit will actually be making the tea and managing the file systems.

[bingo70]

Why am I baffled you've labeled our Head of Recruitment a file carrier? I think that's pretty self explanatory.

Fine, I just disagree with you.

With the structure we have in place, I don’t think one person at the top of the admin side of it is as important as you make out. Even if they do have an important sounding title.

[Peevemor]

I honestly think that people should stop panicking and ease up with the "red flag" and "alarm bells" chat.

None of us know the inner workings of the club, especially since the new structure has only been in place 5 minutes.

We don't know Ron's son's remit nor that of some others already in place.

I've already expressed my reservations about us apparently moving away from the structure put in place by Leeann & George Craig, but I'm not going to pee my pants just yet.

[tamig]

Fear, red flags, alarm bells. And not one person knows what the role entails. I trust RG and don’t think the guy’s a mug. The new CEO is also no mug. I can’t understand the hysteria here.

[bingo70]

I honestly think that people should stop panicking and ease up with the "red flag" and "alarm bells" chat.

None of us know the inner workings of the club, especially since the new structure has only been in place 5 minutes.

We don't know Ron's son's remit nor that of some others already in place.

I've already expressed my reservations about us apparently moving away from the structure put in place by Leeann & George Craig, but I'm not going to pee my pants just yet.

Doesn’t happen often but I completely agree with you.

[NC1875]

Could it simply be head of recruitment means sign the players identified by the recruitment team and manager and get then done instead of faffing about last minute. We have people already in place to do the scouting and analysing stuff, we just need someone to get the signatures on the papers.

Exactly this. Too many people thinking Ron’s son is now going to have the last say on who we sign.

He’s here to simply get the deals done on players that other more experienced staff have identified.

[Rumble de Thump]

Fulfilling the role of Head of Recruitment? So leading the recruitment for the football department at the club.

Unless he's just been given that title bit will actually be making the tea and managing the file systems.

What does that involve? The head of recruitment will be leading and fulfilling the role?

[Peevemor]

Doesn’t happen often but I completely agree with you.The world's gone mad... [emoji6]

[MWHIBBIES]

Fear, red flags, alarm bells. And not one person knows what the role entails. I trust RG and don’t think the guy’s a mug. The new CEO is also no mug. I can’t understand the hysteria here.
There is absolutely no hysteria at all.

What is it people imagine he will actually be doing? I hope this isn't the start of another flag debate.

I'd imagine he'll be heading up our player recruitment.

[bingo70]

The world's gone mad... [emoji6]

No it’s not.

[Since90+2]

What does that involve? The head of recruitment will be leading and fulfilling the role?

Heading up our recruitment. The clue is in the name.

[CapitalGreen]

He managed to secure us a new international forward this season so he is ahead of the last guy in that regard.

[MWHIBBIES]

He managed to secure us a new international forward this season so he is ahead of the last guy in that regard.

Who might be absolutely hopeless. While Mathie got Doidge and Nisbet who have already proven their class. Think we have to wait till muller plays before he's considered a coup for Gordon Jr.

[bingo70]

Heading up our recruitment. The clue is in the name.

‘Heading up’ isn’t actually a thing though.

More specifically what is he will be doing?

Finding new players? We’ve got a whole Scouting department for that.
Negotiating deals? New chief executive going to be doing that.
Managing people doing the above? If that’s it then he doesn’t need football experience, he needs people management experience.

I know you don’t like the term file carrier but look past the wording of it for a second, if Ross gets the final decision on players then he’s basically taking information from the scouting team to the manager, that’s all I meant by a file carrier.

[Pretty Boy]

Fear, red flags, alarm bells. And not one person knows what the role entails. I trust RG and don’t think the guy’s a mug. The new CEO is also no mug. I can’t understand the hysteria here.

I think part of it comes from the fact none of this has been particularly well communicated, or communicated at all really.

We have become used to having the structure of the club and the roles of various individuals clearly explained to us in recent years. Now we have an appointment to what is generally accepted as a key position and what looks like some other structural changes being put in place and there has been no announcement or explanation at all. Even those 'defending' the club here are admitting they don't really know what is going on and it's based on little more than trust. I'm not sure that's all that different from being concerned and calling it a hunch.

[CapitalGreen]

Who might be absolutely hopeless. While Mathie got Doidge and Nisbet who have already proven their class. Think we have to wait till muller plays before he's considered a coup for Gordon Jr.

Relax, I was being facetious.

[Rumble de Thump]

Heading up our recruitment. The clue is in the name.

Heading up? Give us another clue.

[Peevemor]

I think part of it comes from the fact none of this has been particularly well communicated, or communicated at all really.

We have become used to having the structure of the club and the roles of various individuals clearly explained to us in recent years. Now we have an appointment to what is generally accepted as a key position and what looks like some other structural changes being put in place and there has been no announcement or explanation at all. Even those 'defending' the club here are admitting they don't really know what is going on and it's based on little more than trust. I'm not sure that's all that different from being concerned and calling it a hunch.Still no reason for the unfounded overreaction.

Hopefully all will be explained in due course.

[Allant1981]

Still no reason for the unfounded overreaction.

Hopefully all will be explained in due course.

Are you even shocked with some of the reactions on here, seems to be the way with most now

[Sir David Gray]

Fear, red flags, alarm bells. And not one person knows what the role entails. I trust RG and don’t think the guy’s a mug. The new CEO is also no mug. I can’t understand the hysteria here.

I don't think there's any hysteria at all.

We have had the owner's son appointed to a prominent role within the club without any announcement, I think some people are understandably showing some concern about that.

It may be the case that it turns out to be a roaring success and hopefully that's what happens but I think an unannounced appointment of the owner's son will arouse some suspicion.

[Since90+2]

I don't think there's any hysteria at all.

We have had the owner's son appointed to a prominent role within the club without any announcement, I think some people are understandably showing some concern about that.

It may be the case that it turns out to be a roaring success and hopefully that's what happens but I think an unannounced appointment of the owner's son will arouse some suspicion.

A balanced and sensible post.

[007]

Are you even shocked with some of the reactions on here, seems to be the way with most now

Jambos on social media on the wind up and succeeding with some folk.

[Rumble de Thump]

I don't think there's any hysteria at all.

We have had the owner's son appointed to a prominent role within the club without any announcement, I think some people are understandably showing some concern about that.

It may be the case that it turns out to be a roaring success and hopefully that's what happens but I think an unannounced appointment of the owner's son will arouse some suspicion.

What will people suspect?

[Peevemor]

I don't think there's any hysteria at all.

We have had the owner's son appointed to a prominent role within the club without any announcement, I think some people are understandably showing some concern about that.

It may be the case that it turns out to be a roaring success and hopefully that's what happens but I think an unannounced appointment of the owner's son will arouse some suspicion.It depends whether you're predisposed to always assuming the worst.

[Pretty Boy]

I don't think there's any hysteria at all.

We have had the owner's son appointed to a prominent role within the club without any announcement, I think some people are understandably showing some concern about that.

It may be the case that it turns out to be a roaring success and hopefully that's what happens but I think an unannounced appointment of the owner's son will arouse some suspicion.

I'm not seeing much hysteria either. Admittedly I have only skimmed the other thread and glanced at Twitter so I could well be missing a total meltdown that hasn't found it's way on to this thread.

I'm not particularly suspicious. I think we might just have to get used to the idea that RG is going to be less open about the workings of the club in comparison to the last few years. Ultimately that's going to mean an enhanced level of speculation.

[Mon Dieu4]

The head of my department would have no clue how to do my job but they are there to oversee things and get the right people in who can get all the other jobs done, I'm not exactly worried by this, a few people have said he will be there to make things are running smoothly and getting deals over the line

[Victor]

The head of my department would have no clue how to do my job but they are there to oversee things and get the right people in who can get all the other jobs done, I'm not exactly worried by this, a few people have said he will be there to make things are running smoothly and getting deals over the line

Exactly. Do you think the head of Heineken breweries knows anything about brewing? No, he is there to make sure that the people who do know about such things, do what they are doing to the best of their abilities and that it makes lots of money for his company.


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[Peevemor]

The head of my department would have no clue how to do my job but they are there to oversee things and get the right people in who can get all the other jobs done, I'm not exactly worried by this, a few people have said he will be there to make things are running smoothly and getting deals over the lineI'm a partner in my firm and employ people more qualified than me. They can do stuff that I can't. As long as we all know what we're meant to be doing and don't stand on each others' toes it works very well.

[Andy74]

Fear, red flags, alarm bells. And not one person knows what the role entails. I trust RG and don’t think the guy’s a mug. The new CEO is also no mug. I can’t understand the hysteria here.

Yep, not high on my list of things to have to worry about.

[Sir David Gray]

What will people suspect?

People being suspicious about Ron Gordon's motives for appointing his son in a move which so far has been quite cloak and dagger in nature.

As I say hopefully it all ends up ok in the end and any concerns prove to be unfounded but if this was happening at a rival club, this place would be full of people poking fun at the situation.

[Sir David Gray]

It depends whether you're predisposed to always assuming the worst.

Not at all.

I don't think you need to always be assuming the worst in order to have concerns about this.

I think it's healthy to be keeping an eye on the goings on at the club and to be asking questions when certain decisions are made. If there's nothing untoward going on then I'm sure Ron Gordon will welcome the scrutiny and be happy to answer any questions the fans might have.

[Peevemor]

Cloak & dagger? [emoji1787]

Is that why they updated the club directory on the official site?

If he wanted to hide stuff surely he'd have had the page deleted.

[Andy74]

Cloak & dagger? [emoji1787]

Is that why they updated the club directory on the official site?

If he wanted to hide stuff surely he'd have had the page deleted.

Yep. We are happy to have Ron’s money and he has a hugely important role for us as owner and Exec chairman and he’s no experience in football. He’s been largely praised though for speaking very well and actioning a number of improvements.

If he thinks his son can play a role and help us then great. It’s his business and fairly normal for family members to be part of their business.

There’s been absolutely nothing in anything Ron has said or done so far which would give any impression other than he knows what he doing and wants us to improve.

[RyeSloan]

Cloak & dagger? [emoji1787]

Is that why they updated the club directory on the official site?

If he wanted to hide stuff surely he'd have had the page deleted.

Web page updated (probably in error) prior to official announcement = cloak and dagger. Seems pretty obvious to me [emoji12]

[Sir David Gray]

Cloak & dagger? [emoji1787]

Is that why they updated the club directory on the official site?

If he wanted to hide stuff surely he'd have had the page deleted.

Nope it means that there's mystery and intrigue attached to it which is one definition of cloak and dagger.

Normally an appointment of this nature would be announced publicly, this one hasn't been so far therefore I think it does have a certain element of mystery and intrigue attached to it.

[Walter]

It seems to me that people have blurred the words of head of recruitment with the old fashioned 'chief scout'

My understanding is that the head of recruitment will negotiate the transfers identified by the management and scouting team

[tamig]

I don't think there's any hysteria at all.

We have had the owner's son appointed to a prominent role within the club without any announcement, I think some people are understandably showing some concern about that.

It may be the case that it turns out to be a roaring success and hopefully that's what happens but I think an unannounced appointment of the owner's son will arouse some suspicion.
None of us know what the role involves. People are speculating. I do call it hysteria. We’ve been on an upward trajectory since RG took over. He doesn’t seem like the sort of guy who will do things on a whim and risk the future success of the club. I think there are plenty examples of what I’d call hysteria and over reaction on both this and the Mathie thread.

[RyeSloan]

Exactly. Do you think the head of Heineken breweries knows anything about brewing? No, he is there to make sure that the people who do know about such things, do what they are doing to the best of their abilities and that it makes lots of money for his company.


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The rather nattily named Dolf van den Brink has spent his career at Heineken and I’m sure has a rather impressive knowledge of how his company brews beer!

But I get your point…leadership roles require a different skills set to the ‘do’ers’ it’s just that normally, as in Dolf’s case, they come with some prior knowledge of the industry they are operating in.

None the less I’m sanguine at this appointment and actually quite like the fact the owners son will be an integral part of the business.

The spotting of suitable talent in a structured and measured way will be important thing and as long as he has the ability to implement that kind of set up then all will be good.

Ron himself alluded to such a thing recently, I think, in an interview suggesting he was looking to be much more data and moneyball stylee focused on the recruitment. I trust in the fact that his son is aligned to the vision and that Ron trusts in his ability to deliver it.

[ancient hibee]

I hope that the involvement of a younger member of Ron's family points to a long term commitment. Ron's not getting any younger.

[Sir David Gray]

None of us know what the role involves. People are speculating. I do call it hysteria. We’ve been on an upward trajectory since RG took over. He doesn’t seem like the sort of guy who will do things on a whim and risk the future success of the club. I think there are plenty examples of what I’d call hysteria and over reaction on both this and the Mathie thread.

Here's hoping you're right.

[bigwheel]

Exactly. Do you think the head of Heineken breweries knows anything about brewing? No, he is there to make sure that the people who do know about such things, do what they are doing to the best of their abilities and that it makes lots of money for his company.


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No…but Head of Brewing will do…..he’s not head of the club, he is head of recruitment..a key role. And one that’s gone rather well for a few years. Most would say he’s got a decent benchmark to keep up to.

We all hope it’s a good appointment. It’s fair for some scepticism though. A nepotism post perhaps, or a great decision…we will find out. Let’s hope it’s the latter. None of us know. So those relaxed about it may be right, and those a wee bit troubled by it may be right….one thing for sure…this won’t be the last time this topic is debated on here. Could be a regular theme this particular one…


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[H18 SFR]

I didn’t comment when the ‘Mathie is pish’ momentum was building other than to say I feared it was an error in judgement to let him move on.

If the alarm bells aren’t ringing right now then I fear deafness has set in.

[Iggy Pope]

Nope it means that there's mystery and intrigue attached to it which is one definition of cloak and dagger.

Normally an appointment of this nature would be announced publicly, this one hasn't been so far therefore I think it does have a certain element of mystery and intrigue attached to it.

Magic, murder, mystery...suspense? Oooh. I’m intrigued. Get me a ticket luv, no, get me a couple.

[CapitalGreen]

I didn’t comment when the ‘Mathie is pish’ momentum was building other than to say I feared it was an error in judgement to let him move on.

If the alarm bells aren’t ringing right now then I fear deafness has set in.

Alarms bells were ringing for me when we failed to bring in a striker and defender before the season started like our manager wanted. If this latest appointment starts having a negative impact on performances on the pitch like the failure to recruit in those 2 key positions by the previous incumbent has then alarm bells will start ringing for me. Until then I’ll keep my powder dry and give the new appointment a chance to prove themselves.

[Rumble de Thump]

People being suspicious about Ron Gordon's motives for appointing his son in a move which so far has been quite cloak and dagger in nature.

As I say hopefully it all ends up ok in the end and any concerns prove to be unfounded but if this was happening at a rival club, this place would be full of people poking fun at the situation.

I asked what they will suspect. Do you suspect something? Are you seriously likening us to Hearts? What is it you know about this role and the people involved that you're not telling us?

[Sir David Gray]

I asked what they will suspect. Do you suspect something? Are you seriously likening us to Hearts? What is it you know about this role and the people involved that you're not telling us?

I don't suspect anything in particular, there's just something about this which doesn't quite sit right with me at the moment.

As I've said a few times now hopefully any concerns people have prove to be unfounded and Ian Gordon goes on to be a massive success.

I don't know anything about the role or the people involved that I'm not telling you. I'm just providing my opinion based on what I've seen so far which is the owner giving his son a fairly prominent role in the club without any formal announcement.

That's not how I'm used to us conducting our business so I think it's natural that questions will be asked.

[NAE NOOKIE]

People appointing members of their family to key positions in the business they own isn't that unusual I suppose. It depends on the motive for it whether or not it turns out to be a good idea.

Some folk shoehorn a family member into their business to keep them out of trouble.
Some folk do it because they feel they can trust family more than an outsider .... see the Mafia :greengrin
Some folk have groomed their kids from early years to follow in their business footsteps and appoint them to positions once they think they are ready for them.

It can work very well or be a disaster. One thing I would say is that as far as I know Ron Gordon isn't here to fail and son or not I doubt he would appoint him to a role in the club he didn't think he could perform well. For that reason and given what he has done so far I'm happy to give Ron the benefit of the doubt here.

I know Mad Vlad did something similar at Hearts, but lets face it this is hardly the same, if his kid had had the intellect of a single celled amoeba he would still have put him on the board.

[Hulk1875]

People appointing members of their family to key positions in the business they own isn't that unusual I suppose. It depends on the motive for it whether or not it turns out to be a good idea.

Some folk shoehorn a family member into their business to keep them out of trouble.
Some folk do it because they feel they can trust family more than an outsider .... see the Mafia :greengrin
Some folk have groomed their kids from early years to follow in their business footsteps and appoint them to positions once they think they are ready for them.

It can work very well or be a disaster. One thing I would say is that as far as I know Ron Gordon isn't here to fail and son or not I doubt he would appoint him to a role in the club he didn't think he could perform well. For that reason and given what he has done so far I'm happy to give Ron the benefit of the doubt here.

I know Mad Vlad did something similar at Hearts, but lets face it this is hardly the same, if his kid had had the intellect of a single celled amoeba he would still have put him on the board.

👏🏻

[B.H.F.C]

I’m not keen on the way he’s pretty much been sneaked in. That’s Ron’s first major error IMO. Just be up front and tell us what’s happening.

However, I’m not particularly concerned by the appointment itself. Said on the Mathie thread that I reckon it’s more of a commercial position in terms of actually doing deals as opposed to identifying players and we clearly failed on the doing deals front in the summer.

[jacomo]

People being suspicious about Ron Gordon's motives for appointing his son in a move which so far has been quite cloak and dagger in nature.

As I say hopefully it all ends up ok in the end and any concerns prove to be unfounded but if this was happening at a rival club, this place would be full of people poking fun at the situation.


Ron’s about to rip off his mask and reveal he is Vlad after all, and his son Roman is running recruitment.

That would certainly be a twist.

[Sir David Gray]

Ron’s about to rip off his mask and reveal he is Vlad after all, and his son Roman is running recruitment.

That would certainly be a twist.

Certainly would.

[Davy Mac]

As ever in business, its all about trust and clearly Ron didn't have any with our recent departures.

Don't know about how anyone else feels but for me, judging by Gerrard's celebration after the final whistle says it all.

The rise of the Hibs!

[MrSmith]

Ron's son, unbelievable.

Not surprised by this as I said on page 5 of the GM away thread on the 16th of September, because he got Mueller, therein lies the reason.

[Lago]

People appointing members of their family to key positions in the business they own isn't that unusual I suppose. It depends on the motive for it whether or not it turns out to be a good idea.

Some folk shoehorn a family member into their business to keep them out of trouble.
Some folk do it because they feel they can trust family more than an outsider .... see the Mafia :greengrin
Some folk have groomed their kids from early years to follow in their business footsteps and appoint them to positions once they think they are ready for them.

It can work very well or be a disaster. One thing I would say is that as far as I know Ron Gordon isn't here to fail and son or not I doubt he would appoint him to a role in the club he didn't think he could perform well. For that reason and given what he has done so far I'm happy to give Ron the benefit of the doubt here.

I know Mad Vlad did something similar at Hearts, but lets face it this is hardly the same, if his kid had had the intellect of a single celled amoeba he would still have put him on the board.
Ah a man who speaks sense 👍

[blackpoolhibs]

I think Ron's son is also an electrician, he's happy with the wages for that too.

[bigwheel]

I think Ron's son is also an electrician, he's happy with the wages for that too.

[emoji1787]. Ah, but is he doing electrical work, or admin for electrical work ?


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[andudare2]

For years there was speculation as to wether Sir Toms offspring would take up stewardship of Hibs when he retired,He then sold to Mr Gordon who has now involved his son in Hibs structure of being run so i can only see this as good long term planning and intent of the Gordon family being involved with the club for many years to come. Not as if there is any sign of mad vlads very own Rodney scenario or are people just naturally suspicious without due cause?

[500miles]

For years there was speculation as to wether Sir Toms offspring would take up stewardship of Hibs when he retired,He then sold to Mr Gordon who has now involved his son in Hibs structure of being run so i can only see this as good long term planning and intent of the Gordon family being involved with the club for many years to come. Not as if there is any sign of mad vlads very own Rodney scenario or are people just naturally suspicious without due cause?

Mathie has been kicked after a very successful season, and sort of replaced by RG's son, with no background in Scottish, UK or European football.

[HFC93]

Do we know if its a permanent appointment?

[Andy74]

Mathie has been kicked after a very successful season, and sort of replaced by RG's son, with no background in Scottish, UK or European football.

Actually largely replaced by our CEO who has significant experience.

[Billy Whizz]

Actually largely replaced by our CEO who has significant experience.

If wasn’t a CEO sacking, or a CEO appointment

[Andy74]

If wasn’t a CEO sacking, or a CEO appointment

I don’t know the point you are making.

The suggestion is that in the new structure Mathie’s sporting director role will not be replaced and the CEO will be doing it. Which seems efficient.

[bigwheel]

I don’t know the point you are making.

The suggestion is that in the new structure Mathie’s sporting director role will not be replaced and the CEO will be doing it. Which seems efficient.



If you are right and we now have a commercial manager turned CEO setting and embedding our football philosophy (as that’s what the sporting director role did) we have a much bigger concern than whether Ron’s son will do well heading up recruitment.

Our CEOs have always have been involved in some elements of recruitment…very few deals got done without previously Petrie and Dempster being actively involved in discussions and negotiations for example. But none of them were mad enough to do anything remotely in the technical football side of our business.

Equally, the whole structure previously avoided it being the manager who managed football strategy also. As it would reset after every appointment.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think RG and co, will think the way you suggest…they will realise this is a football role and not expect the CEO to do it.


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[Andy74]

If you are right and we now have a commercial manager turned CEO setting and embedding our football philosophy (as that’s what the sporting director role did) we have a much bigger concern than whether Ron’s son will do well heading up recruitment.

Our CEOs have always have been involved in some elements of recruitment…very few deals got done without previously Petrie and Dempster being actively involved in discussions and negotiations for example. But none of them were mad enough to do anything remotely in the technical football side of our business.

Equally, the whole structure previously avoided it being the manager who managed football strategy also. As it would reset after every appointment.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think RG and co, will think the way you suggest…they will realise this is a football role and not expect the CEO to do it.


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Think you are hugely overplaying what our sporting director role ever did on that front.

[andudare2]

Mathie has been kicked after a very successful season, and sort of replaced by RG's son, with no background in Scottish, UK or European football.however he was slated all over here for the last transfer window,this however had nothing to do with what i posted which was in regards to there now being family continuity in the owning / running of Hibs,this to me seems straight forward enough and perhaps a little more trust and less suspicion should be given to Ron Gordon and his motive for this appointment or has he given any cause for the suspicious to be this way in anything thing else since he took over,definitely not imo.!

[hhibs]

however he was slated all over here for the last transfer window,this however had nothing to do with what i posted which was in regards to there now being family continuity in the owning / running of Hibs,this to me seems straight forward enough and perhaps a little more trust and less suspicion should be given to Ron Gordon and his motive for this appointment or has he given any cause for the suspicious to be this way in anything thing else since he took over,definitely not imo.!



:top marks

[Borderhibbie76]

I didn’t comment when the ‘Mathie is pish’ momentum was building other than to say I feared it was an error in judgement to let him move on.

If the alarm bells aren’t ringing right now then I fear deafness has set in.

Alarm bells rang for me when Mathie failed to deliver what our manager wanted and asked for all summer - another striker...so il reserve judgement on Ron Junior for now

[Hibbyradge]

It looks to me that we have a team of analysts looking at potential targets plus the manager and coaching staff, and Ian Gordon's role will be to negotiate with other clubs, agents and players to get them in.

Isn't that more or less what he did in South Carolina?

[J-C]

It looks to me that we have a team of analysts looking at potential targets plus the manager and coaching staff, and Ian Gordon's role will be to negotiate with other clubs, agents and players to get them in.

Isn't that more or less what he did in South Carolina?

I've already posted this earlier in this thread and in the Mathie thread, some on here love a panic.

[MWHIBBIES]

I've already posted this earlier in this thread and in the Mathie thread, some on here love a panic.

No one is panicing. The idea that a head of recruitment is some nothing role, or football experience isn't required, is absolute rubbish.

[Peevemor]

No one is panicing. The idea that a head of recruitment is some nothing role, or football experience isn't required, is absolute rubbish.So there's been no talk of red flags, alarm bells, cloak & dagger, etc.?

[Hibbyradge]

No one is panicing. The idea that a head of recruitment is some nothing role, or football experience isn't required, is absolute rubbish.

Ian Gordon has both.

[andudare2]

So there's been no talk of red flags, alarm bells, cloak & dagger, etc.?

👍👍👍

[bigwheel]

So there's been no talk of red flags, alarm bells, cloak & dagger, etc.?

I’ve not sensed any panic…I’ve seen people myself , yourself and some other raise some questions or observations ..but not sensed any tone of panic. Surprise maybe, but no panic. Most people seem
Non plussed tbh .

On a broader level, It’s quite an interesting topic actually. Last time we had a new structure it was announced in a very coordinated way by Petrie around the time it was announced the recruitment of LD. She was given the task when she eventually joined along with George Craig of implementing it .

What stood out for me is that it was really clear as to who did what , and as managers changed we were never starting all over again because the football approach was run by other people .

It will be interesting to see if those principles remain when our revised approach is summarised, or if it is a major change of philosophy.

[Since452]

Ian Gordon isn't going to be sitting with his binoculars at Ochilview on a Tuesday night. Head of recruitment will be overseeing the operation of the recruitment structure. No red flags or alarm bells for me. Let's see if we miss out on any signings on the January deadline day first.

[tamig]

Ian Gordon isn't going to be sitting with his binoculars at Ochilview on a Tuesday night. Head of recruitment will be overseeing the operation of the recruitment structure. No red flags or alarm bells for me. Let's see if we miss out on any signings on the January deadline day first.

Or we could have all the deals already wrapped up and the managers asks delivered early in the window.

[Sir David Gray]

So there's been no talk of red flags, alarm bells, cloak & dagger, etc.?

I'm replying to this against my better judgement but since you've pretty much cherry picked selective quotes from my posts, here goes.

The definition of panic is "a sudden feeling of great fear that cannot be controlled and prevents you from thinking clearly."

There has been absolutely no examples of this in any posts I have read on here on this subject over the last 24 hours.

Some people are showing concern, yourself included in your initial comments unless I'm mistaken, about this situation which I think is a completely reasonable position to take given the circumstances.

Other people are not worried in the slightest which is also a perfectly legitimate stance to take.

All of us want what's best for the club at the end of the day and if that ends up being Ian Gordon becoming our Head of Recruitment then fair enough. However I do think the way it has been done warrants some cautious scrutiny.

[MWHIBBIES]

So there's been no talk of red flags, alarm bells, cloak & dagger, etc.?

Yes, and those things are nothing close is panic.

This is a clear red flag, I'm far from panic, though. In fact, I don't think I've ever actually panicked on anything relating to football in my life.

[tamig]

I'm replying to this against my better judgement but since you've pretty much cherry picked selective quotes from my posts, here goes.

The definition of panic is "a sudden feeling of great fear that cannot be controlled and prevents you from thinking clearly."

There has been absolutely no examples of this in any posts I have read on here on this subject over the last 24 hours.

Some people are showing concern, yourself included in your initial comments unless I'm mistaken, about this situation which I think is a completely reasonable position to take given the circumstances.

Other people are not worried in the slightest which is also a perfectly legitimate stance to take.

All of us want what's best for the club at the end of the day and if that ends up being Ian Gordon becoming our Head of Recruitment then fair enough. However I do think the way it has been done warrants some cautious scrutiny.
They’re not all from your posts. Red flag seems to have been used by a couple of posters. Yet they claim no panic or anything. Red flags and alarm bells I normally associate with concern, fear and panic.

[Pretty Boy]

They’re not all from your posts. Red flag seems to have been used by a couple of posters. Yet they claim no panic or anything. Red flags and alarm bells I normally associate with concern, fear and panic.

Concern, fear and panic are a broad spectrum of emotions though. I panic when an opposition team get a corner in the last minute when we are 1-0 up. I also panic if I turn round in a supermarket and my 4 year old child isn't immediately in my eye line. Broadly the same emotion but on completely different levels.

There seems to be an ongoing implication that there is some mass hysteria breaking out with people predicting imminent doom and I'm just not seeing it. A few people saying there is a 'red flag' doesn't change my view. There's a bit of concern at structural changes within the club and an appointment that seems to have gone unannounced. As I said before that's a departure from what we have become accustomed to. A bit of discussion about it with a range of views from completely disinterested to a bit concerned seems entirely natural to me. It's not really a conversation worth panicking about.

[WhileTheChief..]

If you’re suspicious of something here, are you meaning it in a he’s maybe a dodgy type about to do dodgy things kinda way, or just that he might be crap at the job?

[Peevemor]

I'm replying to this against my better judgement but since you've pretty much cherry picked selective quotes from my posts, here goes.

The definition of panic is "a sudden feeling of great fear that cannot be controlled and prevents you from thinking clearly."

There has been absolutely no examples of this in any posts I have read on here on this subject over the last 24 hours.
...

Of course the word panic wasn't intended in it's most literal sense.

For me, in this case, it was meant to describe the over reaction and excessive criticism and suspicion in relation to something on which we have very little information (apart from a job title).

That has definitely been evident in some posts.

[matty_f]

I'm replying to this against my better judgement but since you've pretty much cherry picked selective quotes from my posts, here goes.

The definition of panic is "a sudden feeling of great fear that cannot be controlled and prevents you from thinking clearly."

There has been absolutely no examples of this in any posts I have read on here on this subject over the last 24 hours.

Some people are showing concern, yourself included in your initial comments unless I'm mistaken, about this situation which I think is a completely reasonable position to take given the circumstances.

Other people are not worried in the slightest which is also a perfectly legitimate stance to take.

All of us want what's best for the club at the end of the day and if that ends up being Ian Gordon becoming our Head of Recruitment then fair enough. However I do think the way it has been done warrants some cautious scrutiny.

This forum is going to be excruciatingly challenging to navigate if we’re assuming the literal dictionary definition of words any time we try to reply.

[Peevemor]

This forum is going to be excruciatingly challenging to navigate if we’re assuming the literal dictionary definition of words any time we try to reply.Either that or the talk of alarm bells, cloaks & daggers takes a completely different complexion.

[Jim44]

There’s clearly two divisions on the Mathie issue. I can see where the pro-Mathie concerns are coming from. Equally, I understand the other side of the coin. As far as I am concerned, on what snippets of info I have had, the club is very satisfied in the direction they have chosen to go. Let’s get behind them 100%.

[Wilson]

There’s clearly two divisions on the Mathie issue. I can see where the pro-Mathie concerns are coming from. Equally, I understand the other side of the coin. As far as I am concerned, on what snippets of info I have had, the club is very satisfied in the direction they have chosen to go. Let’s get behind them 100%.

The club never make bad choices intentionally. From managerial appointments that don't work out to poorly received sponsorship deals. They'll all have good reasoning behind them. I imagine the club are often satisfied but that doesn't always mean they are right.

I agree though that we should get behind them. Ultimately it is Ron's decision to make and it is made. Only time will show if it was right or not.

We can only support them through that time and, anyway, we'll all be here analysing it all the way through.

[blackpoolhibs]

I can see how we'd be critical of the way our team play, or the managers substitutions, but i personally have no idea how well Ron Gordon has run his businesses over the years.

I'd imagine he's done well because he has made the difficult decisions well, and i believe he genuinely wants us to do well.

So looking at this with my unprofessional eye, i believe he thinks he's doing the right thing by appointing his lad to this job, and along with the others, he thinks this will improve us as a club and a team.

Until such times as he's asking for cash in suitcases, i will trust a man who has delivered so far on what he's said.:top marks

[andudare2]

I see on the flumps kickback site that Hibs are now a certainty to be going out the box due to this appointment, desperate or what,telling us we should get in touch with foh for advice etc. Slating hsl as well,dont think any of them have ever grasped the fact that both are as different as chalk&cheese,they were formed to save Hearts,we originally to buy shares at a leisurely pace along with providing funds for players wages etc.no denying they have stuck to their guns on this but it was born out of no other choice,upshot of this post i suppose is lets trust Ron Gordon and stop feeding our neighbours imaginations.

[JimBHibees]

I can see how we'd be critical of the way our team play, or the managers substitutions, but i personally have no idea how well Ron Gordon has run his businesses over the years.

I'd imagine he's done well because he has made the difficult decisions well, and i believe he genuinely wants us to do well.

So looking at this with my unprofessional eye, i believe he thinks he's doing the right thing by appointing his lad to this job, and along with the others, he thinks this will improve us as a club and a team.

Until such times as he's asking for cash in suitcases, i will trust a man who has delivered so far on what he's said.:top marks

Agree with all that. :aok:

[FilipinoHibs]

Is he good with contracts and can convince players to come to Hibs? He's not head of talent spotting.

[Inconsequential]

I can see how we'd be critical of the way our team play, or the managers substitutions, but i personally have no idea how well Ron Gordon has run his businesses over the years.

I'd imagine he's done well because he has made the difficult decisions well, and i believe he genuinely wants us to do well.

So looking at this with my unprofessional eye, i believe he thinks he's doing the right thing by appointing his lad to this job, and along with the others, he thinks this will improve us as a club and a team.

Until such times as he's asking for cash in suitcases, i will trust a man who has delivered so far on what he's said.:top marks A totally rational, intelligent, sensible post Mr. Blackpool! A new standard on Hibsnet.

[jacomo]

I see on the flumps kickback site that Hibs are now a certainty to be going out the box due to this appointment, desperate or what,telling us we should get in touch with foh for advice etc. Slating hsl as well,dont think any of them have ever grasped the fact that both are as different as chalk&cheese,they were formed to save Hearts,we originally to buy shares at a leisurely pace along with providing funds for players wages etc.no denying they have stuck to their guns on this but it was born out of no other choice,upshot of this post i suppose is lets trust Ron Gordon and stop feeding our neighbours imaginations.


They will never be able to distinguish between a criminal using their club as a laundromat and a businessman investing their own money to try and make a club more successful.

Not much you can do with such stupidity.

[Since452]

I see on the flumps kickback site that Hibs are now a certainty to be going out the box due to this appointment, desperate or what,telling us we should get in touch with foh for advice etc. Slating hsl as well,dont think any of them have ever grasped the fact that both are as different as chalk&cheese,they were formed to save Hearts,we originally to buy shares at a leisurely pace along with providing funds for players wages etc.no denying they have stuck to their guns on this but it was born out of no other choice,upshot of this post i suppose is lets trust Ron Gordon and stop feeding our neighbours imaginations.

Any Jambo looking at us without their maroon tinted delusion specs on must see we are a very well run club. I've seen a few on twitter giving it the "Tick Tock" patter. They are still clearly hurting from having the urine extracted out of them for so long. I think both Hibs and Hearts are in a good place right now, both probably as healthy as they have been in my lifetime. It's good for the city and i don't mind what they do as long as we continue to finish above them.

[Peevemor]

Any Jambo looking at us without their maroon tinted delusion specs on must see we are a very well run club. I've seen a few on twitter giving it the "Tick Tock" patter. They are still clearly hurting from having the urine extracted out of them for so long. I think both Hibs and Hearts are in a good place right now, both probably as healthy as they have been in my lifetime. It's good for the city and i don't mind what they do as long as we continue to finish above them.

There are appears to be Hibs supporters that would dosagree with that, giving the amount of moaning at every decision that's made.

[w pilton hibby]

We know Ron has a son called Ian but has anyone confirmed that the Ian Gordon listed on the official site is in fact Ron Gordon's son?

[jacomo]

We know Ron has a son called Ian but has anyone confirmed that the Ian Gordon listed on the official site is in fact Ron Gordon's son?


Now that would be a twist.

[Since452]

We know Ron has a son called Ian but has anyone confirmed that the Ian Gordon listed on the official site is in fact Ron Gordon's son?

There would probably be people up in arms that the random Ian Gordon wasn't as qualified for the position as Rons son

[Mr. Wonderful]

I think people are perhaps being a little too generous to the previous regime and system.

Sure the old regime did bring obvious periods of success, but it also brought its share of mediocrity, failure and disappointment too. Just because we were pish for years before Stubbs, doesn't mean we should be celebrating mid table finishes and being out of the cups as success.

Stubbs: 2 not excellent league seasons and failure to get us promoted, but then he did end the hoodoo. Recruitment team peaked at this time, but ultimately still didn't quite build a side good enough for promotion.

Lennon: Got us up in a league without much challenge in comparison to the previous 2 seasons. A really good spell from January but ultimately we didn't make the grade for 2nd place, due to an average first few months of the season due to poor recruitment. The less said the better about season 2.

Hecky: A real blemish. Awful appointment. Didn't get the club or the fans and made some mind boggling signings and team choices

Ross: Doing a steady job, but with ambition and backing could really push us on.

[JimBHibees]

I think people are perhaps being a little too generous to the previous regime and system.

Sure the old regime did bring obvious periods of success, but it also brought its share of mediocrity, failure and disappointment too. Just because we were pish for years before Stubbs, doesn't mean we should be celebrating mid table finishes and being out of the cups as success.

Stubbs: 2 not excellent league seasons and failure to get us promoted, but then he did end the hoodoo. Recruitment team peaked at this time, but ultimately still didn't quite build a side good enough for promotion.

Lennon: Got us up in a league without much challenge in comparison to the previous 2 seasons. A really good spell from January but ultimately we didn't make the grade for 2nd place, due to an average first few months of the season due to poor recruitment. The less said the better about season 2.

Hecky: A real blemish. Awful appointment. Didn't get the club or the fans and made some mind boggling signings and team choices

Ross: Doing a steady job, but with ambition and backing could really push us on.

Ross is doing a very good job imo rather than steady.

[Mr. Wonderful]

Ross is doing a very good job imo rather than steady.

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

[bigwheel]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

Think we currently have the fifth highest budget in our league ..what makes you suggest third is the least we should expect ?

[JimBHibees]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

The least we should expect that is why it was the first time in about 20 years it happened. Let's get real we want trophies but it rarely happens all we can do is what we are doing and continuing to knock on the door.

[Allant1981]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

If we had continually finished in the top 3 then maybe that should be something we expect but lets get real here, we have been a bang average team for years regardless of what some fans think, our league places and lack of cups confirm this which is why it makes it even sweeter when we do

[Brightside]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

The least we should expect is something we’ve never had in recent times until Jack Ross. So he’s doing a great job.

[blackpoolhibs]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say
Where has this sense of entitlement come from? :confused:

[Since90+2]

The club should be aiming for 3rd place so I actually agree with that sentiment. We obviously haven't achieved it as much as should have but going forward we should aim to cement our place as the 3rd best team in the country.

Jack Ross is definitely the man to achieve that.

[Peevemor]

The club should be aiming for 3rd place so I actually agree with that sentiment. We obviously haven't achieved it as much as should have but going forward we should aim to cement our place as the 3rd best team in the country.

Jack Ross is definitely the man to achieve that.

We should maybe expect to challenge for 3rd which is different from third being the "least we should expect", especially when there are currently 4 clubs with similar or bigger player budgets.

[Billy Whizz]

We should maybe expect to challenge for 3rd which is different from third being the "least we should expect", especially when there are currently 4 clubs with similar or bigger player budgets.

Hearts/Dons might have bigger budgets, but I think we’ve got better players and assets

[Peevemor]

Hearts/Dons might have bigger budgets, but I think we’ve got better players and assets

If they have bigger budgets then it's unrealistic to expect us to finish above them every year. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be there or thereabouts.

[bigwheel]

Hearts/Dons might have bigger budgets, but I think we’ve got better players and assets

Think we are ahead of the dons currently ..will be interesting to see how we do towards the end of the month up there..a tough ground often for us .

If I’m honest I think we may be slightly ahead of Hearts just now, but they have recruited very well and it’s a close race . Will also be interesting to see how they get on against the Rangers this weekend. I suspect they have had hardly anyone away on international duty . Whereas Rangers players will have been all over the place …

Assets - yes , we certainly have that .

[Alfred E Newman]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

That's the sort of nonsense that we ridicule when it appears on Kickback

[Jones28]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

So the least we should expect is a finish that has been achieved what, 3 times in the last 30 years?

[Since452]

Atm he's achieved a 3rd place finish. Which, imo, is the least we should expect of a club like ours. We need trophies and he's fallen at the last hurdle. Potential is there though as I say

The least i'd expect is 5th place. 3rd is historically excellent for us and an extreme rarity

[J-C]

Ron said himself that he expects to be the best of the rest, to me that looks like a minimum of 3rd, his quotes about doubling our wage bill would suggest more investment.

[Mr. Wonderful]

So the least we should expect is a finish that has been achieved what, 3 times in the last 30 years?

The fact that it's been achieved 3 times in 30 years is embarrassing and proves, to me at least, that improvement and change is needed. Keep doing what you've always done and you'll keep getting what you've always got.

Time to be ambitious and demand better.

[bigwheel]

The fact that it's been achieved 3 times in 30 years is embarrassing and proves, to me at least, that improvement and change is needed. Keep doing what you've always done and you'll keep getting what you've always got.

Time to be ambitious and demand better.




Keep doing what we are doing ? You mean other than (in recent times):

New owner, new strategy, changed manager revamped coaching staff , improved performances higher league finish , regular Hampden trips, removal of sporting director. Stadium upgrades , enhanced commercial results , not selling our key assets , new academy head coming , revised football structure , nine new support roles advertised etc etc


What has Ron ever done for us ?

[Since452]

Keep doing what we are doing ? You mean other than (in recent times):

New owner, new strategy, changed manager revamped coaching staff , improved performances higher league finish , regular Hampden trips, removal of sporting director. Stadium upgrades , enhanced commercial results , not selling our key assets , new academy head coming , revised football structure , nine new support roles advertised etc etc


What has Ron ever done for us ?

Outstanding post :top marks

[mal]

I think people are perhaps being a little too generous to the previous regime and system.

Sure the old regime did bring obvious periods of success, but it also brought its share of mediocrity, failure and disappointment too. Just because we were pish for years before Stubbs, doesn't mean we should be celebrating mid table finishes and being out of the cups as success.

Stubbs: 2 not excellent league seasons and failure to get us promoted, but then he did end the hoodoo. Recruitment team peaked at this time, but ultimately still didn't quite build a side good enough for promotion.

Lennon: Got us up in a league without much challenge in comparison to the previous 2 seasons. A really good spell from January but ultimately we didn't make the grade for 2nd place, due to an average first few months of the season due to poor recruitment. The less said the better about season 2.

Hecky: A real blemish. Awful appointment. Didn't get the club or the fans and made some mind boggling signings and team choices

Ross: Doing a steady job, but with ambition and backing could really push us on.

It was pretty much Stubbs' team side that got us promoted; he was up against Hearts' and the Rangers' teams that had much longer to prepare for the Championship as well as budgets much higher than ours. Added to the screwing over we got from the ref in the playoff v Falkirk I think you're being extremely ungenerous here.

[Since452]

It was pretty much Stubbs' team side that got us promoted; he was up against Hearts' and the Rangers' teams that had much longer to prepare for the Championship as well as budgets much higher than ours. Added to the screwing over we got from the ref in the playoff v Falkirk I think you're being extremely ungenerous here.

All very well and good finishing behind Rangers and Hearts, but we also finished behind Falkirk which probably contributed to losing the playoff against them as we ended up having to play two legs against Raith Rovers not long before.

[Lago]

:greengrin
There would probably be people up in arms that the random Ian Gordon wasn't as qualified for the position as Rons son

[Mr. Wonderful]

Keep doing what we are doing ? You mean other than (in recent times):

New owner, new strategy, changed manager revamped coaching staff , improved performances higher league finish , regular Hampden trips, removal of sporting director. Stadium upgrades , enhanced commercial results , not selling our key assets , new academy head coming , revised football structure , nine new support roles advertised etc etc


What has Ron ever done for us ?

That's exactly what I mean. These are all good things, but folk seem to be lamenting the loss of individuals and a structure which had its fair share of time to push us on and didn't.

[Since452]

Ron's son, unbelievable.

Not anymore...

[w pilton hibby]

Not anymore...

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-pushing-ahead-with-new-structure-amid-movement-in-recruitment-department-3416697

[Mikey_1875]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-pushing-ahead-with-new-structure-amid-movement-in-recruitment-department-3416697

Interesting article. Going by that it seems like Ian Gordon does have some experience for the role albeit not in the uk.

Short and sweet for Ivan Kepcija although the article said he was brought in to lead the recruitment; I thought he was going to be employed on more of a consultant type role. Doesn’t matter now anyway I suppose.

[evy]

Interesting article. Going by that it seems like Ian Gordon does have some experience for the role albeit not in the uk.

Short and sweet for Ivan Kepcija although the article said he was brought in to lead the recruitment; I thought he was going to be employed on more of a consultant type role. Doesn’t matter now anyway I suppose.

Another victim of the poor summer window.

[jacomo]

The fact that it's been achieved 3 times in 30 years is embarrassing and proves, to me at least, that improvement and change is needed. Keep doing what you've always done and you'll keep getting what you've always got.

Time to be ambitious and demand better.


True, doesn’t change the fact that your previous post was nonsense.

The club’s stated ambition at this time is about right: we should be challenging for a top 4 finish every season, aiming to win domestic cups, and going further in Europe.

[Mr. Wonderful]

True, doesn’t change the fact that your previous post was nonsense.

The club’s stated ambition at this time is about right: we should be challenging for a top 4 finish every season, aiming to win domestic cups, and going further in Europe.

Fine enough, but there won't ever be wild celebrations for doing so and the manager and players won't go down in history for it.

Each time we've finished 3rd it's been closely followed by huge decline, supporter disengagement, managerial change and attendances falling. Not good enough.

Maybe good enough for teams like Killie and Motherwell but we are and should be a different kettle of fish.

[Is It On....]

The fact that it's been achieved 3 times in 30 years is embarrassing and proves, to me at least, that improvement and change is needed. Keep doing what you've always done and you'll keep getting what you've always got.

Time to be ambitious and demand better.

The change was a proper recruitment strategy for the first time in my lifetime enacted under George Craig and continued by Mathie. Showing steady progress year on year is exactly what I want to see from Hibs. I honestly don't care, and actually quite like it if we research and sign players like JDH who was classed by some as underwhelming in the summer. Some signings have been better than others but we haven't been sucked into the scattergun approach most famously enacted by our noisy neighbours in recent years .

[number9dream]

Not directly related but I see Ben Jacobs has been removed from our long list of staff in the club directory, with Adam head of comms.
Ben didn't last long, did he?
Or is this old news?

[Mr. Wonderful]

The change was a proper recruitment strategy for the first time in my lifetime enacted under George Craig and continued by Mathie. Showing steady progress year on year is exactly what I want to see from Hibs. I honestly don't care, and actually quite like it if we research and sign players like JDH who was classed by some as underwhelming in the summer. Some signings have been better than others but we haven't been sucked into the scattergun approach most famously enacted by our noisy neighbours in recent years .

Yes, and that's been good enough to get us by. There's been peaks and troughs with it, and for the most part we've probably middled for a club of our stature in Scotland.

Absolutely no ill wishes to those who put us on steady footing, but the idea that we should stick to that system and not aim higher is bonkers.

[Oscar T Grouch]

Fine enough, but there won't ever be wild celebrations for doing so and the manager and players won't go down in history for it.

Each time we've finished 3rd it's been closely followed by huge decline, supporter disengagement, managerial change and attendances falling. Not good enough.

Maybe good enough for teams like Killie and Motherwell but we are and should be a different kettle of fish.

The main cause of which was selling the players who got us to that position in the close season. That has been a marked change in strategy for all to see, last season we finished 3rd and immediately secured the best players that achieved that to longer deals.

[Is It On....]

Yes, and that's been good enough to get us by. There's been peaks and troughs with it, and for the most part we've probably middled for a club of our stature in Scotland.

Absolutely no ill wishes to those who put us on steady footing, but the idea that we should stick to that system and not aim higher is bonkers.

I believe in getting better slowly with solid foundations...small improvements built on small improvements every year will be massive over a 10yr basis. The poster child for this being Brentford off course 🙂

[Heisenberg]

Not directly related but I see Ben Jacobs has been removed from our long list of staff in the club directory, with Adam head of comms.
Ben didn't last long, did he?
Or is this old news?

I thought Ben Jacobs was always just a stop gap until we got a permanent member of staff on board? Might be remembering wrong though.

[Mr. Wonderful]

I thought Ben Jacobs was always just a stop gap until we got a permanent member of staff on board? Might be remembering wrong though.

Correct. He's a contractor

[Billy Whizz]

I thought Ben Jacobs was always just a stop gap until we got a permanent member of staff on board? Might be remembering wrong though.

No he was a permanent appt, no idea why it didn’t work out for him

There was an interim for a short time, before he came on board

[Heckys Wheel]

I thought Ben Jacobs was always just a stop gap until we got a permanent member of staff on board? Might be remembering wrong though.

By the sounds of the latest announcement, the comms team are now in place and have a well thought out strategy for what they want to do.

Also sounds like they have researched and have data to back up their decisions.

[bigwheel]

By the sounds of the latest announcement, the comms team are now in place and have a well thought out strategy for what they want to do.

Also sounds like they have researched and have data to back up their decisions.

I wonder what peoples views will be of the match programme being stopped …it was great to mark the history of games ..even if the content was mixed quality …will be sadly missed by me …

[jacomo]

I wonder what peoples views will be of the match programme being stopped …it was great to mark the history of games ..even if the content was mixed quality …will be sadly missed by me …


Agree, think it’s a big shame. They are documents of historical record.

[Dmas]

I’m a little disappointed the Croatian fella has left his role I thought that sounded like a shrewd move by us unfortunate it didn’t work out

[Since452]

I’m a little disappointed the Croatian fella has left his role I thought that sounded like a shrewd move by us unfortunate it didn’t work out

Yeah same here. Thought it was an ambitious tie up. Shame.

[bingo70]

I’m a little disappointed the Croatian fella has left his role I thought that sounded like a shrewd move by us unfortunate it didn’t work out

Agree.

Bit of a strange wee episode to be honest.

[Peevemor]

I’m a little disappointed the Croatian fella has left his role I thought that sounded like a shrewd move by us unfortunate it didn’t work outI wonder if some of Graeme Mathie's projects might be getting shut down and this guy was one of them. I've a feeling that some of the tie-ins with various clubs might go the same way.

I could be well off the mark, but I got the impression that some of the stuff looked like somebody justifying their position.

Based on nothing but my gut feeling.

[Billy Whizz]

I wonder if some of Graeme Mathie's projects might be getting shut down and this guy was one of them. I've a feeling that some of the tie-ins with various clubs might go the same way.

I could be well off the mark, but I got the impression that some of the stuff looked like somebody justifying their position.

Based on nothing but my gut feeling.

You’d have to look at them all in isolation
Stenhousemuir, we had a number of players on loan at them last season. Jack Brydon was the standout, and been in a few 1st team squads this season

Brighton, I’m not sure where the benefits were going go to be, but English Premier league clubs spend a fortune on training grounds and youth development, maybe GM was looking at this more like HTC staff get to share best practices with them, latest equipment et

CSS strollers was to be a pathway for young players, but we haven’t allowed any of our highly rated under 18 team go out on loan this season. Jayden Fairley who’s too old for the under 18’s has joined CCS until January

The most bizarre and nothing to do with GM, is the Charleston Battery tie up. Logically there’s no reason for a link to this club, hope it hasn’t cost us too much

[blackpoolhibs]

I wonder if some of Graeme Mathie's projects might be getting shut down and this guy was one of them. I've a feeling that some of the tie-ins with various clubs might go the same way.

I could be well off the mark, but I got the impression that some of the stuff looked like somebody justifying their position.

Based on nothing but my gut feeling.

:agree: I hope not, our partnership with Chelsea has been mutually beneficial for years now.:wink:

[Since90+2]

You’d have to look at them all in isolation
Stenhousemuir, we had a number of players on loan at them last season. Jack Brydon was the standout, and been in a few 1st team squads this season

Brighton, I’m not sure where the benefits were going go to be, but English Premier league clubs spend a fortune on training grounds and youth development, maybe GM was looking at this more like HTC staff get to share best practices with them, latest equipment et

CSS strollers was to be a pathway for young players, but we haven’t allowed any of our highly rated under 18 team go out on loan this season. Jayden Fairley who’s too old for the under 18’s has joined CCS until January

The most bizarre and nothing to do with GM, is the Charleston Battery tie up. Logically there’s no reason for a link to this club, hope it hasn’t cost us too much

The Charleston linkup I'd agree is the strangest one.

Are they not in the second tier of American football? If they are then you'd have to imagine the odds of any of their players getting a visa here are tiny.

[Pretty Boy]

Is Eddie May still at the club?

I haven't heard his name mentioned for what feels like years but I don't recall any announcement that he had left either.

[Billy Whizz]

Is Eddie May still at the club?

I haven't heard his name mentioned for what feels like years but I don't recall any announcement that he had left either.

Eddie’s still at Hibs thankfully. Club directory has him down as Lead Coach Emerging Talent. Think someone on this thread said he was moving into a more general scouting role

[Peevemor]

Is Eddie May still at the club?

I haven't heard his name mentioned for what feels like years but I don't recall any announcement that he had left either."Lead Coach Emerging Talent" apparently.

Interesting that James McDonaugh isn't listed anywhere.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/club-directory

[Billy Whizz]

"Lead Coach Emerging Talent" apparently.

Interesting that James McDonaugh isn't listed anywhere.

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/our-club/club-directory

He’s not in a senior position to be on it

[Peevemor]

He’s not in a senior position to be on itWhat's he doing (I can't remember what was said when he came back)?

[Billy Whizz]

What's he doing (I can't remember what was said when he came back)?

He’s a coach, not sure what age group

[andudare2]

He’s a coach, not sure what age groupworking with the under 16,s for definite perhaps with other age groups as well but unsure on this part.

[Dmas]

The Charleston linkup I'd agree is the strangest one.

Are they not in the second tier of American football? If they are then you'd have to imagine the odds of any of their players getting a visa here are tiny.

I read an article I think it was maybe Forbes, where pre hibs Ron Gordon was looking to invest in a club in that league and ended up in a sort of cahoots with the new buyer of Charleston, introductions where made with his son Iain and then Ron bought us and we teamed up with them, so I’d be very surprised to see us end that so soon

Edit Forbes article https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellore/2020/12/21/player-development-is-top-priority-in-usl-scottish-premiership-club-partnerships/amp/

[Dmas]

He’s a coach, not sure what age group

Any idea if he is in the frame for this head of academy position Billy? Seems weird to leave Edin City DOF for a job coaching our U16s

[Iggy Pope]

You’d have to look at them all in isolation
Stenhousemuir, we had a number of players on loan at them last season. Jack Brydon was the standout, and been in a few 1st team squads this season

Brighton, I’m not sure where the benefits were going go to be, but English Premier league clubs spend a fortune on training grounds and youth development, maybe GM was looking at this more like HTC staff get to share best practices with them, latest equipment et

CSS strollers was to be a pathway for young players, but we haven’t allowed any of our highly rated under 18 team go out on loan this season. Jayden Fairley who’s too old for the under 18’s has joined CCS until January

The most bizarre and nothing to do with GM, is the Charleston Battery tie up. Logically there’s no reason for a link to this club, hope it hasn’t cost us too much

Proper young team thug! He better have the right trainers.

[Hibbyradge]

Proper young team thug! He better have the right trainers.

No point spending wads on trainers.

He's getting booted out at the end of December.

[Iggy Pope]

No point spending wads on trainers.

He's getting booted out at the end of December.

CCS? You missing this big fellah?

[Hibbyradge]

CCS? You missing this big fellah?

I was joining in.

In hindsight, I should have said kicked tae **** instead of just booted.

[CropleyWasGod]

CCS? You missing this big fellah?

I miss Alexis Korner.

[bingo70]

https://twitter.com/barriestweeting/status/1448762935170449408?s=21

Anybody know anything about this?

Was this an event at the club for shareholders or certain supporters groups?

Hopefully just an interview that’s been done that will be available later.

[hhibs]

I miss Alexis Korner.


Now that was a band, CCS, and Alexis Korner great tracks !!


Remember Alexis Korner performamce in the final episode of The Prisoner" ?

[Barney McGrew]

Was this an event at the club for shareholders or certain supporters groups?

It was a Q&A for sponsors/partnerships

[Iain G]

Now that was a band, CCS, and Alexis Korner great tracks !!


Remember Alexis Korner performamce in the final episode of The Prisoner" ?

Unless I am having a whoosh moment, wasn't that Alexis Kanner? 🤔

[CMurdoch]

Unless I am having a whoosh moment, wasn't that Alexis Kanner? 🤔

You are correct. The late Alexis Kanner.

Alexis Korner was a British blues guitarist and broadcaster
I loved his broadcasting voice. He was mega knowledgeable about music.

[offshorehibby]

You are correct. The late Alexis Kanner.

Alexis Korner was a British blues guitarist and broadcaster
I loved his broadcasting voice. He was mega knowledgeable about music.

Use to love his radio show, was on 7 o'clock on a Sunday just after the top 20.

[CMurdoch]

Use to love his radio show, was on 7 o'clock on a Sunday just after the top 20.

Ta, I was trying to remember when the show was on.
Alexis Korner along with John Peel provided most of my early musical listening education.

[degenerated]

Ta, I was trying to remember when the show was on.
Alexis Korner along with John Peel provided most of my early musical listening education.Pretty good archive of old Peel shows here

http://theperfumedgarden.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_22.html?m=1

[CMurdoch]

Pretty good archive of old Peel shows here

http://theperfumedgarden.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_22.html?m=1

That is fantastic!
Been on the site before but forgot about it.
Thanks for reminding me.
Great to hear his between music chat again.

[McD]

Any idea if he is in the frame for this head of academy position Billy? Seems weird to leave Edin City DOF for a job coaching our U16s


i think I read an article with the owner/ceo of Edinburgh city a while back, where he was quoted as saying something along the lines of not being able to compete with the wages Hibs and others could offer for his staff

[hhibs]

Unless I am having a whoosh moment, wasn't that Alexis Kanner? 🤔


My apologies,old age and alcohol impacting my memory:wink: