New Year Derby moved to Monday 3rd January

[Sean1875]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/hearts-h-selected-by-sky-sports

Not ideal at all. I know its a 'bank holiday' like they claim, but there's a couple in my group that are back to work that day regardless and wont be able to make it now, nonsense. 12:30 kick off too :brickwall

[Brightside]

It’s not a bank holiday for me and plenty other people. Shocker that it’s not at least moved to evening game.

[Peevemor]

Very poor. I'll have to organise the day off to watch it.

[1875Sean]

Seen in the site it said The only way for you to secure a ticket to the game is by purchasing one of our five-game or eight-game match ticket packages!

So no single tickets being sold? Sounds strange

[Since90+2]

I'm not back till the 5th so suits me but that's a strange one. Should really have been at night if it's the Monday.

[Brightside]

@power. Any chance we can appeal this? Plenty people will be working.

[Hibernian Verse]

Absolutely outrageous, and I'm not usually bothered by kick off times or days.

I'll make the game but a lot of people are back to work on the 3rd.

[steino1875]

Bad enough moving it to the 3rd but a 12.30 ko terrible not everyone gets the bank holidays

[JimBHibees]

Seen in the site it said The only way for you to secure a ticket to the game is by purchasing one of our five-game or eight-game match ticket packages!

So no single tickets being sold? Sounds strange

Assume they mean the only way at the moment to secure a seat would be season ticket or the packages. Hope a few people take these up.

[Bristolhibby]

Seen in the site it said The only way for you to secure a ticket to the game is by purchasing one of our five-game or eight-game match ticket packages!

So no single tickets being sold? Sounds strange

At the moment. They are pushing the half season tickets.

No way this won’t go to a public sale.

At least that’s what I’m counting on as I’m planning on flying up from Bristol.

J

[1875Sean]

Assume they mean the only way at the moment to secure a seat would be season ticket or the packages. Hope a few people take these up.

Yeah you would think they would word it better by saying the only way to guarantee a ticket would be get a package, would be madness otherwise

[JimBHibees]

Yeah you would think they would word it better by saying the only way to guarantee a ticket would be get a package, would be madness otherwise

Agree :aok:

[Sean1875]

@power. Any chance we can appeal this? Plenty people will be working.

Agreed, I know the chances are incredibly unlikely but must be something we can do, absolute joke of a kick off date and time for an Edinburgh derby, cant imagine they would have ever considered doing the same for the Glasgow derby the day before.

[Ringothedog]

Surely it is still a holiday as the 1st and 2nd are on a Saturday and Sunday? Or are people saying their employers are “doing” them out of a holiday?

[Scouse Hibee]

Yaaas delighted with that, a game I can actually attend.

[04Sauzee]

Supposed to be working that day and a season ticket holder.

The day doesn't bother me so much but the time certainly does.

[Brightside]

Surely it is still a holiday as the 1st and 2nd are on a Saturday and Sunday? Or are people saying their employers are “doing” them out of a holiday?

Loads of companies don’t take Bank holidays now. It gets added into annual allowance.

[Cod Boy]

Sky dictate all for a pittance for clubs north of the border

[Sir David Gray]

I can still make this but it's a bit of a shocker of a kick off time.

[HibsGW]

Season ticket holders can’t ever be an after thought, that should be a condition of any tv deals.

[Pretty Boy]

I'm off work but I'm lucky in that regard.

More and more places no longer recognise the 2 days at New Year and a lot of sectors never did. They just get added to the full allowance.

Fans who actually attend matches are an afterthought as always.

[Ringothedog]

Loads of companies don’t take Bank holidays now. It gets added into annual allowance.

They still give Christmas , boxing and New Year’s Day as holiday’s
The rest are added to your annual leave

[Stairway 2 7]

They still give Christmas , boxing and New Year’s Day as holiday’s
The rest are added to your annual leave

Are you the spokesman for every sector. Most places now group holidays together including new year. The majority of people in Scotland work bank holidays

[Keith_M]

If somebody works somewhere that a bank holiday isn't automatic at their work, wouldn't they be able to apply for a day off, from their 'days in liue'?


:dunno:

[Peevemor]

If somebody works somewhere that a bank holiday isn't automatic at their work, wouldn't they be able to apply for a day off, from their 'days in liue'?


:dunno:

Possibly, but it's a bit crap having to eat into your annual leave to suit Sky's scheduling.

[Pagan Hibernia]

Rotten news.

I now can’t go.

[04Sauzee]

If somebody works somewhere that a bank holiday isn't automatic at their work, wouldn't they be able to apply for a day off, from their 'days in liue'?


:dunno:

They can in the hope that they get their holiday approved, other people aren't on holiday at that time and depending on the place of work Xmas /new year may be a busy period so holidays can't be taken.

It's a nightmare for some .

[Stairway 2 7]

If somebody works somewhere that a bank holiday isn't automatic at their work, wouldn't they be able to apply for a day off, from their 'days in liue'?


:dunno:

Can apply for it. But that would be a sought after day if your work is open. Also alot of people only get 28 days and wouldn't want to use one for football that should be on weekends or evenings. I'm fortunate 2 get 2 weeks off at Christmas, but this is a p take

[Bishop Hibee]

Fine for me. Looking forward to a day out win, lose or draw :party:

[Ringothedog]

Are you the spokesman for every sector. Most places now group holidays together including new year. The majority of people in Scotland work bank holidays

😂😂. You obviously do speak for every sector and I bow to your superior knowledge on all aspects of new year bank holidays and who works on them.

[Salisbury Hibby]

This is crap. Coming up from England for the New Year. Travelling back on the Monday.

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[hibsdaft]

Disgraceful, and unacceptable.

[Coco Bryce]

Absolutely disgraceful.

That 4 of us ST holders unable to attend as we don't work in the Bank :grr::grr:

I'm ****ing pig sick of Scottish Football just now.

[hibsdaft]

If somebody works somewhere that a bank holiday isn't automatic at their work, wouldn't they be able to apply for a day off, from their 'days in liue'?


:dunno:

Nobody should lose holidays to attend a football match they have already paid for.

[Danderhall Hibs]

I’m surprised this is affecting so many - the 3rd is a holiday (not just for banks) for I thought the majority. Obviously retail and pubs etc will be open but they’re always open so no additional
Impact.

It’s not happened for a while - the last one I remember was the 4-4 game on 2/1 and that wasn’t even a holiday for the majority.

[Ryan91]

I’m surprised this is affecting so many - the 3rd is a holiday (not just for banks) for I thought the majority. Obviously retail and pubs etc will be open but they’re always open so no additional
Impact.

It’s not happened for a while - the last one I remember was the 4-4 game on 2/1 and that wasn’t even a holiday for the majority.

I was under the impression that the 3rd was a Public Holiday due to the 1st falling on a Saturday, so most "offices" would be closed at that time

[WhileTheChief..]

The majority of workplaces are not open on Jan 1.

People that would have been off on Jan 1 will get Jan 3 instead.

[mcohibs]

The majority of workplaces are not open on Jan 1.

People that wound ah e been off on Jan 1 will get Jan 3 instead.

Exactly. Not sure I understand the uproar. This game is essentially still the new year's day derby in terms of the holiday because the 1st is on a Saturday this year.

[EI255]

https://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/article/hearts-h-selected-by-sky-sports

Not ideal at all. I know its a 'bank holiday' like they claim, but there's a couple in my group that are back to work that day regardless and wont be able to make it now, nonsense. 12:30 kick off too :brickwallPost Hogmanay pub time [emoji16]

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[ian cruise]

I’m surprised this is affecting so many - the 3rd is a holiday (not just for banks) for I thought the majority. Obviously retail and pubs etc will be open but they’re always open so no additional
Impact.

It’s not happened for a while - the last one I remember was the 4-4 game on 2/1 and that wasn’t even a holiday for the majority.

The concept of Bank Holidays is outdated in modern society and fewer and fewer businesses will close for them. For example we're expecting everyone who is involved with working on game day to work the Bank Holiday. Many retail companies, offices, and even banks themselves, if you are in a contact centre rather than branch, will still require staff to be available and if they wish it off, they'll need to apply for a holiday and hope the rest of the team haven't done the same.

[WhileTheChief..]

Not for Jan 3 they won’t. Call cnetr, banks and offices will be closed.

It’s exactly the same as the Christmas weekend. As Xmas day and Boxing Day are holidays that fall on a weekend, folk will get the Mon and Tues off instead. They won’t need to ask for them.

[Sir David Gray]

Not for Jan 3 they won’t. Call cnetr, banks and offices will be closed.

It’s exactly the same as the Christmas weekend. As Xmas day and Boxing Day are holidays that fall on a weekend, folk will get the Mon and Tues off instead. They won’t need to ask for them.

The call centre I used to work for will be off on Monday 3rd but not Tuesday 4th as they followed the English bank holidays so they didn't get 2nd January off (or the substitute day).

[blackpoolhibs]

Suits me, i was struggling for the Sunday.:top marks

[Pagan Hibernia]

Bring back the New Year’s Day derby!

[Stairway 2 7]

Exactly. Not sure I understand the uproar. This game is essentially still the new year's day derby in terms of the holiday because the 1st is on a Saturday this year.

I guess your off so you wouldn't need uproar. The hundreds of messages on social media of people who will miss it because are working, are rightfully pissed off

[RyeSloan]

I guess your off so you wouldn't need uproar. The hundreds of messages on social media of people who will miss it because are working, are rightfully pissed off

It will impact some I have no doubt but it’s no different compared to the Monday being the 1st or the 3rd for the substantial majority of people.

The New Year (1st) holiday simply rolls to the Monday and the vast majority of businesses that would have been closed on the first will be closed on the 3rd instead.

Bummer of course by those impacted and in particular those that have made travel plans already but it seriously can’t be impacting a particularly large percentage of people.

And as for bank holidays being rolled into annual leave. Again this is pretty common place now but normally the three days (Christmas, Boxing and New Year) are an exception to that.

[B.H.F.C]

Absolutely disgraceful.

That 4 of us ST holders unable to attend as we don't work in the Bank :grr::grr:

I'm ****ing pig sick of Scottish Football just now.

I’ve never worked in a bank in my life but If Christmas Day or NYD fall on a weekend my work has always been closed on a Monday. I know there will be a number of places that won’t be like that but I’d have thought it’d be a minority rather than a majority.

[Moulin Yarns]

I guess your off so you wouldn't need uproar. The hundreds of messages on social media of people who will miss it because are working, are rightfully pissed off

What I don't understand is those people spending time venting on social media instead of getting their holiday requests in early. 😉

[hibee-boys]

Never usually get that worked up about changes to games but this is really pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable. People buy season tickets with the expectation that games will be, at the very least, moved to evening/Sunday kick offs….even Monday evening would’ve been acceptable. Hardly an incentive to buy season tickets when these games can be moved to any random days/times. I’ll be able to go but the Monday was supposed to be to get over the hangover before back into work🙄

[Partyraiser]

Im a season ticket holder and don't know if ill get the 3rd off as part of my xmas leave yet. luckily I haven't taken a sickie in over 5 years so I have something up my sleeve just in case!

[mcohibs]

I guess your off so you wouldn't need uproar. The hundreds of messages on social media of people who will miss it because are working, are rightfully pissed off

And what about the people who work retail or have other commitments on Sundays but will now be able to go? Folk will be pissed off no matter the outcome so don't read too much into comments (especially social media!).

Games are moved all the time. What about people who work evenings when games are moved to night time? People who work Sundays when games are moved from a Saturday? Can't suit everyone.

Folk are entitled to be annoyed that they will miss it but it's no different to any other game being moved. It's the fact it's a bank holiday and unusual that is throwing people off.

[mcohibs]

Never usually get that worked up about changes to games but this is really pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable. People buy season tickets with the expectation that games will be, at the very least, moved to evening/Sunday kick offs….even Monday evening would’ve been acceptable. Hardly an incentive to buy season tickets when these games can be moved to any random days/times. I’ll be able to go but the Monday was supposed to be to get over the hangover before back into work🙄

But they're not moving games to any random day or time. It's new years day bank holiday. If this game fell on a Tuesday which happened to be 1st January no one would bat an eyelid. People are being thrown off by it being the 3rd. They're rescheduling it with three months notice.

[green day]

I guess your off so you wouldn't need uproar. The hundreds of messages on social media of people who will miss it because are working, are rightfully pissed off


Never usually get that worked up about changes to games but this is really pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable. People buy season tickets with the expectation that games will be, at the very least, moved to evening/Sunday kick offs….even Monday evening would’ve been acceptable. Hardly an incentive to buy season tickets when these games can be moved to any random days/times. I’ll be able to go but the Monday was supposed to be to get over the hangover before back into work🙄

The 1st of January is (always) a national holiday, if we had a match on Monday 1st at 12.30 that would presumably be hunky dory?

Next year the equivalent of the 1st falls on the 3rd..........I am genuinely confused as to why people are so annoyed about this????

[HH81]

Lucky for me got that week off but it is also a BH in England so thought would be up in Scotland.

[Radium]

The 1st of January is (always) a national holiday, if we had a match on Monday 1st at 12.30 that would presumably be hunky dory?

Next year the equivalent of the 1st falls on the 3rd..........I am genuinely confused as to why people are so annoyed about this????

… for the simple reason that many people do not have Monday 03 January 2022 as an automatic day off work because many businesses are open.

I don’t think that there is a dispute around Bank/ Public Holidays, just the practical aspect that for many it is a Monday back at work, and the match is at lunchtime.

I do realise that there are businesses that will be shut and for many there is no issue with the change


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[green day]

… for the simple reason that many people do not have Monday 03 January 2022 as an automatic day off work because many businesses are open.

I don’t think that there is a dispute around Bank/ Public Holidays, just the practical aspect that for many it is a Monday back at work, and the match is at lunchtime.

I do realise that there are businesses that will be shut and for many there is no issue with the change


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In that case its something to take up with their employer because any worth their salt would be giving the 3rd as the equiv of the 1st.

If they work in an industry like hospitality or retail, presumably the Saturday would be equally challenging???

[CentreLine]

… for the simple reason that many people do not have Monday 03 January 2022 as an automatic day off work because many businesses are open.

I don’t think that there is a dispute around Bank/ Public Holidays, just the practical aspect that for many it is a Monday back at work, and the match is at lunchtime.

I do realise that there are businesses that will be shut and for many there is no issue with the change


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Aye, it’s all because we should all have to fall in to line with Santa Cause’s birthday on 25th December. Christmas was never even a public holiday in Scotland until 1958. Now they’re eroding our traditional New Year holiday to bring us in to line. 😖

[Not So Young]

Once again the fans are the last thing TV companies think about

It's a terrible decision

[GRA]

Luckily I'm still able to go due to the 'bank holiday' but this will impact the schedules for plenty of other fans.

Horrible timing for a football game, Monday at 1230pm Kick off :confused:

TV companies having clubs by the goolies yet again :bitchy:

[evy]

Tbf, between xmas and new year I've usually consumed enough bevvy to be confused by which day is which so a Saturday being a Monday works for me.

[Aldo]

Due to work and family commitments I don’t have a ST and won’t purchase one of the packages. So as I’m off over the festive and have a couple of friends and family coming from down south and they wanted to go to the Derby.

Guess that’s out the window then!

For all the good the club have done recently the ONLY way I get to attend this match is by purchasing a 5 or 8 game package.

Pub and telly it is for us!


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[mcohibs]

Due to work and family commitments I don’t have a ST and won’t purchase one of the packages. So as I’m off over the festive and have a couple of friends and family coming from down south and they wanted to go to the Derby.

Guess that’s out the window then!

For all the good the club have done recently the ONLY way I get to attend this match is by purchasing a 5 or 8 game package.

Pub and telly it is for us!


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You'll still be able to buy a derby ticket without buying the package. You're just guaranteed a derby ticket if you do get the package. Same way you would be if you bought a season ticket.

[Aldo]

You'll still be able to buy a derby ticket without buying the package. You're just guaranteed a derby ticket if you do get the package. Same way you would be if you bought a season ticket.

Ah right thanks. Maybe I should read it better! Doh!


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[mcohibs]

Ah right thanks. Maybe I should read it better! Doh!


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To be fair the club haven't communicated it very well. The way it's worded leads you to belive that the only way to get a derby ticket is to get a package

[Aldo]

To be fair the club haven't communicated it very well. The way it's worded leads you to belive that the only way to get a derby ticket is to get a package

Indeed!


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[CMurdoch]

To be fair the club haven't communicated it very well. The way it's worded leads you to belive that the only way to get a derby ticket is to get a package

i suspect that is deliberate in the hope that poor readers will buy ticket packages.
What is for sure is that the club will be using the home games against Hearts as a lever from now on to attempt to drive up drive season ticket and ticket package sales.

[Hibernianinc]

The 3rd is a public holiday. Not a bank holiday.

As others have said, for the purposes of being off work it’s the same as NYD.

Ironically, the 2nd had less cover for folk being off on holiday, although benefited from being a Sunday.

Regardless, paying punters are last to be considered when TV is choosing its schedules 🙄

[Radium]

In that case its something to take up with their employer because any worth their salt would be giving the 3rd as the equiv of the 1st.

If they work in an industry like hospitality or retail, presumably the Saturday would be equally challenging???

… which brings up a question I simply don’t know the answer to. Will the staff working in the stadium on match day be paid at Public Holiday rates?


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[gbhibby]

Why can't they play it on 1 Jan at that time. There is a full epl card that day but that has not stopped then showing a midday Scottish match in the past. Nothing like beating Hearts on New Year's Day.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Why can't they play it on 1 Jan at that time. There is a full epl card that day but that has not stopped then showing a midday Scottish match in the past. Nothing like beating Hearts on New Year's Day.

That’ll depend on their contract.

[green day]

Why can't they play it on 1 Jan at that time. There is a full epl card that day but that has not stopped then showing a midday Scottish match in the past. Nothing like beating Hearts on New Year's Day.

Presumably because the derby is on TV and they will have some English matches on rv on 1st and they will get larger audiences?

Supply and demand

[gbhibby]

Presumably because the derby is on TV and they will have some English matches on rv on 1st and they will get larger audiences?

Supply and demand
Normally BT sports has the midday slot on Saturdays and sky usually have to show a championship game so don't see an issue.

[Glory Lurker]

I know the reasons for it of course, but it's a sorry state when what's probably the oldest regular league derby in the world gets shunted about to be hors d'oeuvre for whatever Sky has planned for later in the day.

[Carheenlea]

Nick Hornby wrote about an Arsenal game at Highbury that was played on a midweek afternoon during the National Strike in the 70’s when he skived off school to attend. Assumed it would just be him and a few pensioners there but it turned out to be their biggest crowd of the season packed into the ground!

If folk want to go they’ll find a way.

[gbhibby]

I know the reasons for it of course, but it's a sorry state when what's probably the oldest regular league derby in the world gets shunted about to be hors d'oeuvre for whatever Sky has planned for later in the day.
No EPL fixtures on 3 Jan at the moment.

[Moulin Yarns]

Nick Hornby wrote about an Arsenal game at Highbury that was played on a midweek afternoon during the National Strike in the 70’s when he skived off school to attend. Assumed it would just be him and a few pensioners there but it turned out to be their biggest crowd of the season packed into the ground!

If folk want to go they’ll find a way.

Oh jing's, that brings back some memories, I think we had the first rangers on a Wednesday afternoon, 1973 or 1974.

[PatHead]

Nick Hornby wrote about an Arsenal game at Highbury that was played on a midweek afternoon during the National Strike in the 70’s when he skived off school to attend. Assumed it would just be him and a few pensioners there but it turned out to be their biggest crowd of the season packed into the ground!

If folk want to go they’ll find a way.

Remember us playing Falkirk on a Wednesday afternoon when stadium reconstruction was going on. We had no floodlights at the time.

[oneone73]

Nick Hornby wrote about an Arsenal game at Highbury that was played on a midweek afternoon during the National Strike in the 70’s when he skived off school to attend. Assumed it would just be him and a few pensioners there but it turned out to be their biggest crowd of the season packed into the ground!

If folk want to go they’ll find a way.

I want to go and I can't because of work. There will be many like me.

[H18 SFR]

Gutted for everyone who is working, it means we can go now so personally delighted.

[Yorkshire HFC]

i suspect that is deliberate in the hope that poor readers will buy ticket packages.
What is for sure is that the club will be using the home games against Hearts as a lever from now on to attempt to drive up drive season ticket and ticket package sales.

I remember in the olden days that when it rained during a match, the fans in the east terrace would chant "what a way to treat your fans", in the hope that they would be let into the cave.

Some things never change - what a way to treat your fans.

[Iggy Pope]

Oh jing's, that brings back some memories, I think we had the first rangers on a Wednesday afternoon, 1973 or 1974.

My mother took me to that. One and only time. Hook or by crook and all that.

[Coach Jon]

Oh jing's, that brings back some memories, I think we had the first rangers on a Wednesday afternoon, 1973 or 1974.

I remember that, remarkably it was the biggest attendance I have ever seen at Easter Road, 49,000 !!!

[Keith_M]

Possibly, but it's a bit crap having to eat into your annual leave to suit Sky's scheduling.


I was more thinking along the lines of people using what otherwise would have been a public holiday, and it's not automatically a day off but they get an extra day added to their allowance for it.


I'm totally in agreement with you about having to take a day from your actual annual allowance, though, if some people have to do that. That would be really unfair.

:agree:

[Iggy Pope]

To be fair the club haven't communicated it very well. The way it's worded leads you to belive that the only way to get a derby ticket is to get a package

They’ve had that communication out since the release of these packages. It’s clearly not the only way. Buying a season ticket guaranteed the game first time around. That, in an ideal world, should really be the only guarantee.
It’s a shame some can’t make it and 12.30 is crap but there was always going to be someone, somewhere, that couldn’t make the game when we have been playing 7 days a week now for a couple of decades. I doubt very much it’s been stuck on at 12:30 on the 3rd so that Hibs can sell more packages while the rest of the world said “aye, why no!”. Fanciful nonsense really.

[zimmer]

In that case its something to take up with their employer because any worth their salt would be giving the 3rd as the equiv of the 1st.

If they work in an industry like hospitality or retail, presumably the Saturday would be equally challenging???

I work in for an engineering firm and don't get bank holidays (just added to annual allowance). I'll need to take a day off now to go to the game

[tamig]

It’s not a bank holiday for me and plenty other people. Shocker that it’s not at least moved to evening game.

Why not? Its effectively 1st January. Do you normally work New Year’s Day?

[Cardinal G]

Bring back the New Year’s Day derby!

Would love that

[green day]

I work in for an engineering firm and don't get bank holidays (just added to annual allowance). I'll need to take a day off now to go to the game

It's not just a bank holiday, it's a national holiday. It is - effectively - New Year's Day.

Are you saying your engineering firm works NYD?

[Peevemor]

I was more thinking along the lines of people using what otherwise would have been a public holiday, and it's not automatically a day off but they get an extra day added to their allowance for it.


I'm totally in agreement with you about having to take a day from your actual annual allowance, though, if some people have to do that. That would be really unfair.

:agree:Here in France, public holidays that fall during a weekend aren't carried forward to the Monday/Tuesday as they are in Scotland. They're effectively lost. I haven't sorted out what I'm doing for the festive period yet, but the chances are that I'd have been back to work on Monday 3rd. I'll now be looking to take the day off.

I know that ST holders and others looking to attend the match are more important, but I'm fairly sure that I won't be the only foreign based hibee affected by this decision.

[zimmer]

It's not just a bank holiday, it's a national holiday. It is - effectively - New Year's Day.

Are you saying your engineering firm works NYD?

No, I get national holidays off (also extra days, off from 25th December to January 1st inclusive). January 2nd is a Scottish holiday, I used to get that off but the company changed that to align with the UK (now get the 2nd added to my annual allowance)

[scoopyboy]

It's not just a bank holiday, it's a national holiday. It is - effectively - New Year's Day.

Are you saying your engineering firm works NYD?

I work in the Pharmaceutical Industry, we work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days a year.

Don't particularly like it but it's the most efficient way for our company to work.

[LancashireHibby]

Must admit that I’m surprised how many people don’t seem to be off on the 3rd. I thought that would be a given in lieu of NYD and that’s even without considering those in Scotland who may still get the 2nd (or 4th in this case) off.

As it is, Monday suits me better for family reasons but the early kick off time might mean I’m snookered for travel anyway.

(On the ‘package’ topic, I emailed the ticket office today about the Rangers game in December and tickets are only going on general sale a week before the game, so it’ll be one hell of a scramble if it’s a similar policy for the derby)

[1875Sean]

Must admit that I’m surprised how many people don’t seem to be off on the 3rd. I thought that would be a given in lieu of NYD and that’s even without considering those in Scotland who may still get the 2nd (or 4th in this case) off.

As it is, Monday suits me better for family reasons but the early kick off time might mean I’m snookered for travel anyway.

(On the ‘package’ topic, I emailed the ticket office today about the Rangers game in December and tickets are only going on general sale a week before the game, so it’ll be one hell of a scramble if it’s a similar policy for the derby)

A lot of large employers go with English bank holidays and that normally means you don’t get that day off, employer following Scottish bank holidays normally get it off

[DavieRoy]

Traditions of workplaces giving staff public holidays now are rare. I can see why the game has been moved to then on that basis.

The other thing people are forgetting is the winter break. This game is eating into the number of days off for the team. If the game was later in the day, it is not ideal for the club in terms of players getting a break.

I personally have no issue with the time as I get public holidays. So is it Sky’s fault or workplaces who no longer keep to the tradition?

The Dundee Derby isn’t live. I am sure if our game wasn’t on, we would have a go at that.

Looking at our crowds so far this season, we haven’t been selling out Saturday 3pm, so no doubt the fans not going so far have another excuse they can use.

[Ringothedog]

I remember that, remarkably it was the biggest attendance I have ever seen at Easter Road, 49,000 !!!

Different games, the afternoon game was the 2nd leg of the league cup which we drew 0-0. The other one you mention was a Scottish cup replay we lost 2-1 to a dodgy penalty

[B.H.F.C]

Must admit that I’m surprised how many people don’t seem to be off on the 3rd. I thought that would be a given in lieu of NYD and that’s even without considering those in Scotland who may still get the 2nd (or 4th in this case) off.

As it is, Monday suits me better for family reasons but the early kick off time might mean I’m snookered for travel anyway.

(On the ‘package’ topic, I emailed the ticket office today about the Rangers game in December and tickets are only going on general sale a week before the game, so it’ll be one hell of a scramble if it’s a similar policy for the derby)

I’m also surprised. I’ve worked in different industries, for different sizes of company and if ever NYD falls on the weekend, I’ve always had the Monday off. There’s obviously places that are 24/7/365, or places that operate seven days a week, but that would apply if the game had remained the Sunday anyway.

[Andy74]

I’m also surprised. I’ve worked in different industries, for different sizes of company and if ever NYD falls on the weekend, I’ve always had the Monday off. There’s obviously places that are 24/7/365, or places that operate seven days a week, but that would apply if the game had remained the Sunday anyway.

Exactly. Nothing really changed here.

[LancashireHibby]

A lot of large employers go with English bank holidays and that normally means you don’t get that day off, employer following Scottish bank holidays normally get it off
The Monday is a Bank Holiday down here as well though with NYD falling on a Saturday

[Glory Lurker]

No EPL fixtures on 3 Jan at the moment.

Even crazier. Maybe a couple of FA Vase games going to be slotted in?

In all seriousness, I expect there will be EPL games that afternoon. At least I hope there will be! Will they be as iconic in their league as the EH derby is here though?

[green day]

No, I get national holidays off (also extra days, off from 25th December to January 1st inclusive). January 2nd is a Scottish holiday, I used to get that off but the company changed that to align with the UK (now get the 2nd added to my annual allowance)

OK, so given the 1st is on a Saturday, presumably you will be off on the Monday (unless sat is a normal working day)?

I really struggle with how this is an issue for most people......

[green day]

I work in the Pharmaceutical Industry, we work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and 365 days a year.

Don't particularly like it but it's the most efficient way for our company to work.
Fair enough, but that must be very very unusual?

[Eyrie]

OK, so given the 1st is on a Saturday, presumably you will be off on the Monday (unless sat is a normal working day)?

I really struggle with how this is an issue for most people......

We normally take three days at Christmas and two at New Year, but this year decided to combine the five days and be off for the week between Christmas and New Year instead of being in for a couple of days that week and then off the Monday and Tuesday.

Which means I'll be at work on the Monday as it stands.

[Glory Lurker]

Enough already! Football fans expressing annoyance at the game getting moved,and to a daft time at that. Yet we have folk saying "you can always take the day off". That's no fitba! We're getting mucked about. There's nothing we can do about it but that doesn't make it okay.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

We played Hearts at ER on Monday 2nd January 2012 which was an afternoon KO. Similar to 3rd January 2022 that day was also a public holiday in leiu for the 1st which fell at the weekend.

Hopefully a better result this time.

[Peevemor]

We played Hearts at ER on Monday 2nd January 2012 which was an afternoon KO. Similar to 3rd January 2022 that day was also a public holiday in leiu for the 1st which fell at the weekend.

Hopefully a better result this time.The 2nd is a public holiday in Scotland in any case.

[Broken Gnome]

OK, so given the 1st is on a Saturday, presumably you will be off on the Monday (unless sat is a normal working day)?

I really struggle with how this is an issue for most people......

My contract hours are Monday-Friday with no bank holidays included. I'm now going to have to try and take time off, but there's other Hibbys who'll be looking to do exactly the same and we can't all have it approved.

The above scenario wouldn't be that rare I'd wager.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

The 2nd is a public holiday in Scotland in any case.

The 3rd January 2022 is a public holiday across the whole UK.

[CentreLine]

The Monday is a Bank Holiday down here as well though with NYD falling on a Saturday

Is it a public holiday or a bank holiday? Certainly a public holiday here in Scotland. England didn’t used to have New Year as a holiday whereas Scotland didn’t have Christmas.

[hibbysam]

I just don’t understand what is wrong with Saturday 1st January. Apologies if it’s been covered but that date has just been removed from our calendar with absolutely no reasoning behind it.

[LancashireHibby]

Is it a public holiday or a bank holiday? Certainly a public holiday here in Scotland. England didn’t used to have New Year as a holiday whereas Scotland didn’t have Christmas.
3rd is a public holiday (in lieu of the 1st). Back to work on the 4th. Tbh, taking that in to consideration, it probably means trains running to the Sunday timetable which makes the 12.30 kick off a nightmare!

[lord bunberry]

I’m struggling what people are finding hard to comprehend here around people not getting the 3rd off. The reality for a huge number of people is that they will be told they have to work on the Monday, it might be a holiday but that won’t matter in the slightest. When I had a job I had to work whether it was a holiday or not, if the work needed to be done there had to be someone there to do it. Most employers will grudgingly give you the 2 days, but anything over that it will be a non starter. For example I was a baker and we’d get the 2 days, but all our customers were open after that so we had to work or they’d go elsewhere and that will be the case for lots of people.

[B.H.F.C]

I’m struggling what people are finding hard to comprehend here around people not getting the 3rd off. The reality for a huge number of people is that they will be told they have to work on the Monday, it might be a holiday but that won’t matter in the slightest. When I had a job I had to work whether it was a holiday or not, if the work needed to be done there had to be someone there to do it. Most employers will grudgingly give you the 2 days, but anything over that it will be a non starter. For example I was a baker and we’d get the 2 days, but all our customers were open after that so we had to work or they’d go elsewhere and that will be the case for lots of people.

I don’t think there will be a huge number of people impacted by the change. There will be people, but a minority of people IMO. Most industries that require folk to work on the Monday will be industries that require folk to work on the Sunday as well.

Just going off my own experience in a number of industries, I’ve always had the Monday off if NYD or Christmas/Boxing Day fall at a weekend.

[lord bunberry]

I don’t think there will be a huge number of people impacted by the change. There will be people, but a minority of people IMO. Most industries that require folk to work on the Monday will be industries that require folk to work on the Sunday as well.

Just going off my own experience in a number of industries, I’ve always had the Monday off if NYD or Christmas/Boxing Day fall at a weekend.
That maybe be your experience, but it’s not been mine. The requirement to work the Sunday will be much lower, only hospitality and retail would expect to work those days and even then it would be reduced numbers. Having the game kicking off at half twelve is piss poor imo. The people saying would you expect to work the 1st are so out of touch with the reality for so many people it’s frightening. For me it makes no difference and I’ll be at the game, but I feel for those having to miss it.

[Glory Lurker]

Still can't believe there's a "dry your eyes" theme here. We're getting mucked about and there's folk who won't make it to the biggest game on the calendar as a result. I'm definitely not going to shrug my shoulders at fellow Hibbies who've been stuffed by this.

[B.H.F.C]

That maybe be your experience, but it’s not been mine. The requirement to work the Sunday will be much lower, only hospitality and retail would expect to work those days and even then it would be reduced numbers. Having the game kicking off at half twelve is piss poor imo. The people saying would you expect to work the 1st are so out of touch with the reality for so many people it’s frightening. For me it makes no difference and I’ll be at the game, but I feel for those having to miss it.

Doubt hospitality would be in reduced numbers on the 2nd. Time of the year to make their money.

I’m not saying there won’t be people having to work the Monday but just off the top of my head local authorities, banking and trades will still be off. I know there will be industries that have to work, there will be loads of examples but I just don’t think there will be a significant number of folk having to miss it because of the change and any that do will probably balance out with folk that it suits better, which a number of folk in this thread have already said it does. I do think it’s a crap kick off time though and the ‘festive feeling’ around it will have started to disappear.

[hibbysam]

Doubt hospitality would be in reduced numbers on the 2nd. Time of the year to make their money.

I’m not saying there won’t be people having to work the Monday but just off the top of my head local authorities, banking and trades will still be off. I know there will be industries that have to work, there will be loads of examples but I just don’t think there will be a significant number of folk having to miss it because of the change and any that do will probably balance out with folk that it suits better, which a number of folk in this thread have already said it does. I do think it’s a crap kick off time though and the ‘festive feeling’ around it will have started to disappear.

If one person misses it due to kicking off at lunchtime on a midweek then that’s significant to me. Football is played at weekends, if it’s midweek it’s in the evening. If people take unsociable hours jobs then that’s a sacrifice they take, but anyone working old fashioned ‘normal’ hours shouldn’t be penalised for absolutely no reason.

[lord bunberry]

Doubt hospitality would be in reduced numbers on the 2nd. Time of the year to make their money.

I’m not saying there won’t be people having to work the Monday but just off the top of my head local authorities, banking and trades will still be off. I know there will be industries that have to work, there will be loads of examples but I just don’t think there will be a significant number of folk having to miss it because of the change and any that do will probably balance out with folk that it suits better, which a number of folk in this thread have already said it does. I do think it’s a crap kick off time though and the ‘festive feeling’ around it will have started to disappear.
This wouldn’t be such an issue if we were playing Dundee but it’s traditionally
our biggest game of the season and people are going to miss it. The bottom line is that games at the weekend kick off during the day and games during the week kick off at night. Holiday or not 12:30 on a Monday is always going to cause issues for people. Everyone who works weekends will accept that they won’t be able to make a lot of games, but I doubt many folk buying a season ticket would envisage a new year derby kicking off at 12:30 on the 3rd.

[B.H.F.C]

If one person misses it due to kicking off at lunchtime on a midweek then that’s significant to me. Football is played at weekends, if it’s midweek it’s in the evening. If people take unsociable hours jobs then that’s a sacrifice they take, but anyone working old fashioned ‘normal’ hours shouldn’t be penalised for absolutely no reason.

There’s games played during the day, on a weekday most festive periods.

[B.H.F.C]

This wouldn’t be such an issue if we were playing Dundee but it’s traditionally
our biggest game of the season and people are going to miss it. The bottom line is that games at the weekend kick off during the day and games during the week kick off at night. Holiday or not 12:30 on a Monday is always going to cause issues for people. Everyone who works weekends will accept that they won’t be able to make a lot of games, but I doubt many folk buying a season ticket would envisage a new year derby kicking off at 12:30 on the 3rd.

Last time we played Hearts over the Christmas/New Year period it was 12:30 on a Thursday. The fact it’s a Public Holiday does make a difference.

Some people might miss it, some other people might be able to go in their place. As much as I think it’s a crap time, I just don’t think there’ll be a huge swing either way.

[Danderhall Hibs]

A lot of large employers go with English bank holidays and that normally means you don’t get that day off, employer following Scottish bank holidays normally get it off

NYD is a holiday for most folk - no matter if Scottish or English. As it’s a Saturday, Monday becomes the holiday.

[WhileTheChief..]

There a lot of people like doing family stuff on the 1st.

For anyone that might not be able to make the Monday, there will be someone who can, who maybe couldn’t have done the Saturday.

I’d imagine most folk that want to be there, will be.

[lord bunberry]

Last time we played Hearts over the Christmas/New Year period it was 12:30 on a Thursday. The fact it’s a Public Holiday does make a difference.

Some people might miss it, some other people might be able to go in their place. As much as I think it’s a crap time, I just don’t think there’ll be a huge swing either way.
On the 1st or 2nd I would fully expect a daytime kick off. As soon as we start extending the holidays beyond the traditional 2 days we’re moving into territory that leaves many fans missing the game.

[lord bunberry]

There a lot of people like doing family stuff on the 1st.

For anyone that might not be able to make the Monday, there will be someone who can, who maybe couldn’t have done the Saturday.

I’d imagine most folk that want to be there, will be.
Doing family stuff is a choice, having to work isn’t, that’s a terrible comparison if I’m being honest. I remember the derby was always on the 1st and there was never anyone complaining they’d miss it because they had to do family stuff.

[B.H.F.C]

On the 1st or 2nd I would fully expect a daytime kick off. As soon as we start extending the holidays beyond the traditional 2 days we’re moving into territory that leaves many fans missing the game.

I’m yet to be convinced many will miss the game. The only reason the 1st or 2nd aren’t the holidays is because they’re weekend and the holiday subsequently being taken on the Monday isn’t anything new.

[lord bunberry]

I’m yet to be convinced many will miss the game. The only reason the 1st or 2nd aren’t the holidays is because they’re weekend and the holiday subsequently being taken on the Monday isn’t anything new.
That’s the whole point I’ve been trying to make. Of course the holiday being taken on the Monday is nothing new, but people not getting that holiday is a common occurrence these days. I’ve no idea what profession you work in, but I think this debate can be split by those who work in an industry that will automatically give you the days off and those that won’t.
This whole thing is driven by a company (sky) who operate in a country that has a long tradition of playing games on bank holidays, other than New Year’s Day we don’t have that tradition and rescheduling games for the 3rd is a step too far imo.

[zimmer]

OK, so given the 1st is on a Saturday, presumably you will be off on the Monday (unless sat is a normal working day)?

I really struggle with how this is an issue for most people......

I can't speak for most people but I get 5 days annual leave automatically taken. This year its the 27th to 31st December, so annual leave on the 27/28/29/30/31 December and back at work on the Monday

[B.H.F.C]

That’s the whole point I’ve been trying to make. Of course the holiday being taken on the Monday is nothing new, but people not getting that holiday is a common occurrence these days. I’ve no idea what profession you work in, but I think this debate can be split by those who work in an industry that will automatically give you the days off and those that won’t.
This whole thing is driven by a company (sky) who operate in a country that has a long tradition of playing games on bank holidays, other than New Year’s Day we don’t have that tradition and rescheduling games for the 3rd is a step too far imo.

I’m not sure when we last played on New Year’s Day, that tradition has been long gone and that’s been down to scheduling the vast majority of the time rather than Sky.

I guess my argument is that I still don’t believe it’ll be that common for lots of folk not to get the holiday. Obviously certain industries and public service excepted.

[zimmer]

I’m not sure when we last played on New Year’s Day, that tradition has been long gone and that’s been down to scheduling the vast majority of the time rather than Sky.

I guess my argument is that I still don’t believe it’ll be that common for lots of folk not to get the holiday. Obviously certain industries and public service excepted.

I'd argue that is there many industries that do recognise public holidays? I don't work in the public sector so can't comment on that but I've never had the 2nd as a holiday in the private sector.

[Libby Hibby]

Horrible date…Horrible Kick Off time…it’s just horrible.

[Since90+2]

I’m not sure when we last played on New Year’s Day, that tradition has been long gone and that’s been down to scheduling the vast majority of the time rather than Sky.

I guess my argument is that I still don’t believe it’ll be that common for lots of folk not to get the holiday. Obviously certain industries and public service excepted.

We played on New Years Day at Tynecastle about 6 or 7 years ago. Can't remember anything else apart from that as I was still absolutely hammered from the night before.

[B.H.F.C]

I'd argue that is there many industries that do recognise public holidays? I don't work in the public sector so can't comment on that but I've never had the 2nd as a holiday in the private sector.

I’d agree there’s plenty places that don’t recognise the 2nd, but that’s not really an issue in this case as the Monday will be the public holiday for the 1st.

[Iain G]

I can't speak for most people but I get 5 days annual leave automatically taken. This year its the 27th to 31st December, so annual leave on the 27/28/29/30/31 December and back at work on the Monday

The 27th and 28th are national holidays this year, as is the 3rd. Worth checking that you are back on the 3rd 👍

[Not In The Know]

Bonkers date. Not sure what sky are thinking and probably shows they don’t care if a uk national audience tune in as England and a big chunk of Scotland will be back to work.

This is the lack of brand building Ron is going on about. Saying that did the club agree or was their hand forced with KO’S. the later date might give Mueller time to bed in more….

[JimBHibees]

Bonkers date. Not sure what sky are thinking and probably shows they don’t care if a uk national audience tune in as England and a big chunk of Scotland will be back to work.

This is the lack of brand building Ron is going on about. Saying that did the club agree or was their hand forced with KO’S. the later date might give Mueller time to bed in more….

No doubt sky can dictate the date and time. Don't really understand the kick off time surely even a 6pm kick off would have been better. Maybe police have had some say re that.

[hibbysam]

We played on New Years Day at Tynecastle about 6 or 7 years ago. Can't remember anything else apart from that as I was still absolutely hammered from the night before.

Last time we played on New Year’s Day was 2011. Fairly sure it was Kevin Kyle’s late winner.

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Bonkers date. Not sure what sky are thinking and probably shows they don’t care if a uk national audience tune in as England and a big chunk of Scotland will be back to work.

This is the lack of brand building Ron is going on about. Saying that did the club agree or was their hand forced with KO’S. the later date might give Mueller time to bed in more….

The majority of people in England and Scotland will be off that day as its a National Holiday throughout the whole UK. I'd argue that the viewing figures will be higher as it'll be the only game on.

[hibbysam]

There’s games played during the day, on a weekday most festive periods.

Outwith Boxing Day? That’s the only day in the Scottish calendar that I’ve known a midweek game to have a lunchtime kick off (now that we don’t play on NYD).

[AFKA5814_Hibs]

Outwith Boxing Day? That’s the only day in the Scottish calendar that I’ve known a midweek game to have a lunchtime kick off (now that we don’t play on NYD).

The EPL has a full fixture card scheduled for 3pm on Tuesday 28th December as its the substitute holiday for Boxing Day which falls on the Sunday.

[hibbysam]

The EPL has a full fixture card scheduled for 3pm on Tuesday 28th December as its the substitute holiday for Boxing Day which falls on the Sunday.

So not Scotland then? What happens down there has no bearing on me. I’ll be surprised if I’ve ever attended a game outwith Boxing Day or New Year’s Day in Scotland where it’s a midweek daytime kick off.

[B.H.F.C]

Outwith Boxing Day? That’s the only day in the Scottish calendar that I’ve known a midweek game to have a lunchtime kick off (now that we don’t play on NYD).

Sure we played Rangers at Ibrox during the day, Championship season. Was meant to be Boxing Day but pushed back a day or two. Think there was a bit of fuss last year with Aberdeen playing during the day between Christmas and New Year, not on a public holiday.

[DavieRoy]

Easy to blame the SPFL and Sky.

We aren’t exactly selling out games on Saturday at 3pm just now.

Plus, what does it say about workers rights nowadays that people don’t get holidays in lieu over New Year.

They aren’t even showing the Dundee Derby on TV!

[Peevemor]

Easy to blame the SPFL and Sky.

We aren’t exactly selling out games on Saturday at 3pm just now.

Plus, what does it say about workers rights nowadays that people don’t get holidays in lieu over New Year.

They aren’t even showing the Dundee Derby on TV!

I'm don't see how the number of tickets we're selling just now is relevant.

[hibbysam]

Sure we played Rangers at Ibrox during the day, Championship season. Was meant to be Boxing Day but pushed back a day or two. Think there was a bit of fuss last year with Aberdeen playing during the day between Christmas and New Year, not on a public holiday.

Think your right - although it was on my birthday so I wasn’t giving any hoots about it that day 😂

Generally speaking more people are likely to be off the whole week between xmas and new year than they are after new year - although still a pain in the arse for some.

[CentreLine]

Easy to blame the SPFL and Sky.

We aren’t exactly selling out games on Saturday at 3pm just now.

Plus, what does it say about workers rights nowadays that people don’t get holidays in lieu over New Year.

They aren’t even showing the Dundee Derby on TV!

It had not occurred to me before but recent reporting puts out a very plausible reason for 3pm Saturday being traditional kick off time. Most people, especially those in manual labour, worked a morning half day on a Saturday as part of their normal working week. Finishing around 12 or 1 allowed time to visit the pub with their wages and then to the game. Almost ritual in its frequency, especially when you could rely on a home game every second week.

Things have changed across the board, in society and socially, as well as within the game and the game has no choice but to move with those times. Broader exposure, sponsorship and TV money is what keeps the wheels oiled. Working hours are infinitely variable as are holidays, as is disposable income. Pressures from technology are huge and celebrity is everything to some.

So what more can football do?
First it relies on the loyalty of an ageing support to bring through another generation. Without that the youngsters are drawn towards the celebrity driven larger leagues. So the club has to raise its profile and we are seeing that starting under RG. Not to mention other forward thinking club chairs.

The stadium progress is good but has a way to go.
The approaches to the stadium are almost as important as the interior and its great to see some work going on there too.

First priority has to be the home support experience but as things progress, I firmly believe that we have to make the experience for away fans as impressive as for the home fans. People talk about things like Killie Pies, or the atmosphere in the ridiculously small Tynecastle. Our home is significantly more impressive in so many ways and why shouldn’t we ensure the game day experience is as good for away fans? Showing our class and respect for their experience would certainly raise the respect they already have for Hibs, however grudgingly. I want young kids going home talking excitedly about their match day experience at ER being way ahead of their experience at other grounds. And their elders having to agree or their protests sounding pathetic. The knock-on from that might be to attract more talent our way from grass roots.

Back to kick off times. I like the idea, pushed a couple of years back, by Aberdeen’s chairman, that the league allow kick off times to be moved to allow for worldwide audiences.
11:00am kick off would be an evening game in the Far East
8:30pm kick off would be an early evening game in New York, or 12:30pm in Las Vegas

We no longer have a labour driven clock dictating times so why not recognise that and move with the current environment? I

[ian cruise]

Still can't believe there's a "dry your eyes" theme here. We're getting mucked about and there's folk who won't make it to the biggest game on the calendar as a result. I'm definitely not going to shrug my shoulders at fellow Hibbies who've been stuffed by this.

What about all the Hibbies who can now make the the game who could not before, would you move the game back to the 2nd and deny them the opportunity to attend?

Modern working schedules means there's no perfect scenario here, some are always going to miss out.

[Eyrie]

What about all the Hibbies who can now make the the game who could not before, would you move the game back to the 2nd and deny them the opportunity to attend?

Modern working schedules means there's no perfect scenario here, some are always going to miss out.

Correct.

As it stands, I'm unlikely to even see the game on TV which is frustrating but that could happen under other circumstances eg if the game was lunchtime on Sunday 2nd, I could be under instruction to attend a family event so instead of complaining, I can accept the change and get on with my life.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Outwith Boxing Day? That’s the only day in the Scottish calendar that I’ve known a midweek game to have a lunchtime kick off (now that we don’t play on NYD).

Last one I remember was the 4-4 game at tiny - 3pm ko on 2/1 when it’s not a national holiday.

[loanheadhibby]

There a lot of people like doing family stuff on the 1st.

For anyone that might not be able to make the Monday, there will be someone who can, who maybe couldn’t have done the Saturday.

I’d imagine most folk that want to be there, will be.

Aye it’s a sad state of affairs in general. Back in the day, January 1st was all about the derby. Out on Hogmanay and then the derby in the afternoon at 3pm.

No better way of starting the New Year than having your ugly neighbours over for a rip roaring game.

In my opinion, it’s a sad decline for supporters of both sides.

[CentreLine]

Aye it’s a sad state of affairs in general. Back in the day, January 1st was all about the derby. Out on Hogmanay and then the derby in the afternoon at 3pm.

No better way of starting the New Year than having your ugly neighbours over for a rip roaring game.

In my opinion, it’s a sad decline for supporters of both sides.

Yep, going to sound all sad now. It was **** having a birthday on New Year’s Day but the derby kind of felt like it belonged to me on my birthday and made it special when otherwise people’s attention was all on New Year. And not just as a kid. The derby was a huge part of Hogmanay/ Ne’er Day plans and it’s a bummer it doesn’t really happen any more.

[gbhibby]

Aye it’s a sad state of affairs in general. Back in the day, January 1st was all about the derby. Out on Hogmanay and then the derby in the afternoon at 3pm.

No better way of starting the New Year than having your ugly neighbours over for a rip roaring game.

In my opinion, it’s a sad decline for supporters of both sides.
Hangover cure getting out in the fresh air. Always a great atmosphere when it was played on the 1st, especially 01/01/1973.