Sloop John B Song

[DanishJohn]

Can anyone help me ?

Did I dream it or am I losing my marbles?

Did I hear the above song being played yesterday at Ibrox?

[Scorrie]

Yes you probably did. It is “the famine song”. Surprisingly none of the MSM appeared to have heard it…

[G15 Hibs]

They've been singing it for about 15 years or so and its certainly not the Beach Boys version. Yet another racist song they're allowed to get away with, without comment or sanction.

[DanishJohn]

Yes you probably did. It is “the famine song”. Surprisingly none of the MSM appeared to have heard it…

Knew I had.

Subtle and sinister.

[DanishJohn]

They've been singing it for about 15 years or so and its certainly not the Beach Boys version. Yet another racist song they're allowed to get away with, without comment or sanction.

Brian Wilson or Mike Love would be horrified if they knew that story. Problem is I don't think it was the Beach Boys version as it was much slower.

[Kato]

Neither Brian Wilson or Mike Love wrote the song. It's "trad". Not trad in the way the Rangers are usually trad, not that that would stop them.

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[Hermit Crab]

Can anyone help me ?

Did I dream it or am I losing my marbles?

Did I hear the above song being played yesterday at Ibrox?


You did. They have made up their own words, 4 men had a dream, to start a football team or something.

[Dalianwanda]

So spooky…Hibernation recommended a band called Okkervil River on another thread. Having a listen reading this thread and they started singing this…..😳🙃

[DanishJohn]

Neither Brian Wilson or Mike Love wrote the song. It's "trad". Not trad in the way the Rangers are usually trad, not that that would stop them.

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Yep I know Brian Wilson or Mike Love or Tony Asher or Van Dyke Parks never wrote it and I know its Trad.
I was only saying it in a reply to a previous poster who mentioned The Beach Boys.
Still think anyone in the music industry would be horrified by the misuse of such a brilliant brilliant song.

ps What about the orange track suite tops ?

I personally think they are a gross insult to Max Jaffa :wink:

[Hermit Crab]

Yep I know Brian Wilson or Mike Love or Tony Asher or Van Dyke Parks never wrote it and I know its Trad.
I was only saying it in a reply to a previous poster who mentioned The Beach Boys.
Still think anyone in the music industry would be horrified by the misuse of such a brilliant brilliant song.

ps What about the orange track suite tops ?

I personally think they are a gross insult to Max Jaffa :wink:


They're a tribute to the Dutch 'connections' so they say. Absolutely nothing to do with the Orange order you know... They had an orange away way back in the 90s, sure it was NTL that sponsored them at the time. Pretty sure they only wore it at Parkhead and Easter Rd.

[Dalianwanda]

So spooky…Hibernation recommended a band called Okkervil River on another thread. Having a listen reading this thread and they started singing this…..😳🙃

[Antifa Hibs]

Yes you probably did. It is “the famine song”. Surprisingly none of the MSM appeared to have heard it…


They've been singing it for about 15 years or so and its certainly not the Beach Boys version. Yet another racist song they're allowed to get away with, without comment or sanction.


Knew I had.

Subtle and sinister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEmQ-cIgJrQ

[Kato]

Yep I know Brian Wilson or Mike Love or Tony Asher or Van Dyke Parks never wrote it and I know its Trad.
I was only saying it in a reply to a previous poster who mentioned The Beach Boys.
Still think anyone in the music industry would be horrified by the misuse of such a brilliant brilliant song.

ps What about the orange track suite tops ?

I personally think they are a gross insult to Max Jaffa :wink:True. Add in the Big O and Tina Turner.

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[CMurdoch]

What it meant to me aged 18.
I thought it was horribly light weight and tarnished "Pet Sounds".
The same way I felt about "Yellow Submarine" on "Revolver"

[leith lynx]

Yep I know Brian Wilson or Mike Love or Tony Asher or Van Dyke Parks never wrote it and I know its Trad.
I was only saying it in a reply to a previous poster who mentioned The Beach Boys.
Still think anyone in the music industry would be horrified by the misuse of such a brilliant brilliant song.

ps What about the orange track suite tops ?

I personally think they are a gross insult to Max Jaffa :wink:
Some Rangers fans would love to think Sloop John B is on the Beach Boys Holland album!

[leith lynx]

What it meant to me aged 18.
I thought it was horribly light weight and tarnished "Pet Sounds".
The same way I felt about "Yellow Submarine" on "Revolver"

The instrumental arrangement of Sloop John B confirms the genius of Brian Wilson

[Kato]

What it meant to me aged 18.
I thought it was horribly light weight and tarnished "Pet Sounds".
The same way I felt about "Yellow Submarine" on "Revolver"Nothing tarnishes Pet Sounds. Sloop John B is possibly the best production job on the record.

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[gbhibby]

John Blackley is fuming that his song has been hijacked by The Rangers and the words have been changed.

[ABZHFC]

They do (normally) sing Four Lads Had a Dream, to be fair. Of course the four lads in question were Gaelic-speakers who had absolutely nothing to do with 'Britishness', Ulster or the Protestant faith, but that part is conveniently glossed over by that lot

[DanishJohn]

The instrumental arrangement of Sloop John B confirms the genius of Brian Wilson

And the brilliance of the magical Wrecking Crew.:agree:

[leith lynx]

And the brilliance of the magical Wrecking Crew.:agree:

Yes, and don't forget banana and louie!

[Kato]

Yes, and don't forget banana and louie!He also tried to get a horse in the studio.

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[leith lynx]

He also tried to get a horse in the studio.

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.... and the buckets of fire!

[CMurdoch]

Nothing tarnishes Pet Sounds. Sloop John B is possibly the best production job on the record.

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Not when I was 18.
It sounds fine now.

[brog]

Brian Wilson or Mike Love would be horrified if they knew that story. Problem is I don't think it was the Beach Boys version as it was much slower.

Mike Love raised funds for Trump, he would probably be quite happy.

[CMurdoch]

Some Rangers fans would love to think Sloop John B is on the Beach Boys Holland album!

Spookily I listened to the Holland album last week when driving to see my parents.
Improved the journey no end.
Played it again on the return leg.

[leith lynx]

Mike Love raised funds for Trump, he would probably be quite happy.

Mike Love not war🙏

[CMurdoch]

Mike Love raised funds for Trump, he would probably be quite happy.

Mike is a git.

[leith lynx]

Spookily I listened to the Holland album last week when driving to see my parents.
Improved the journey no end.
Played it again on the return leg.

Great album, Sunflower even better!

[leith lynx]

Mike is a git.

Misunderstood, big ego tho!

[DanishJohn]

Misunderstood, big ego tho!

Mike Love just couldn't understand Van Dyke Parks lyrics.
When you listen to the whole Smile album I get it no problem
I understand all the lyrics.
After about 12 pints of lager.

Smile was meant to be the masterclass to top Pet Sounds.
Sorry but I don't think it had any chance of doing that.
To try and compare them though is a bit like comparing an apple and an orange.

[Kato]

.... and the buckets of fire!..and the Vegetables.

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[leith lynx]

Mike Love just couldn't understand Van Dyke Parks lyrics.
When you listen to the whole Smile album I get it no problem
I understand all the lyrics.
After about 12 pints of lager.

Smile was meant to be the masterclass to top Pet Sounds.
Sorry but I don't think it had any chance of doing that.
To try and compare them though is a bit like comparing an apple and an orange.
Yes, Mike didn't want to "f with the formula", but the Beach Boys were a lot more than just 'sun, surf and cars'

[CMurdoch]

Yes, Mike didn't want to "f with the formula", but the Beach Boys were a lot more than just 'sun, surf and cars'

Mike and the record company were upset because the gravy train stopped.
I love all these albums up until 1973 that sold meagerly.
It was slim pickings after that other than the "Love You" album in 1977.

[leith lynx]

Mike and the record company were upset because the gravy train stopped.
I love all these albums up until 1973 that sold meagerly.
It was slim pickings after that other than the "Love You" album in 1977.
Think the band took the wrong direction in 1976, the travelling juke box stifled the Wilson brothers, to be fair though, they have produced fleeting moments of greatness since then, the closing suite on their last 2012 album stands up to anything post Smile

[Kato]

The record company messed up as they released The Beach Boys Greatest Hits (Vol3?) within weeks of Pet Sounds release rather than get behind it.

Truth is The Beach Boys fell out of fashion. Rather than subtle arrangements and baroque chamber pop the fashion, post Hendrix, was for blunt VOLUME. Which BW was never going to deliver. (I suppose the mental health issues and the chronic cocaine habit didn't help either.)

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[leith lynx]

The record company messed up as they released The Beach Boys Greatest Hits (Vol3?) within weeks of Pet Sounds release rather than get behind it.

Truth is The Beach Boys fell out of fashion. Rather than subtle arrangements and baroque chamber pop the fashion, post Hendrix, was for blunt VOLUME. Which BW was never going to deliver. (I suppose the mental health issues and the chronic cocaine habit didn't help either.)

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Another tragedy was the demise of Dennis Wilson, who on reflection was a great talent on his own, lived the fast life, bombed and burnt at age 39!

[CMurdoch]

Think the band took the wrong direction in 1976, the travelling juke box stifled the Wilson brothers, to be fair though, they have produced fleeting moments of greatness since then, the closing suite on their last 2012 album stands up to anything post Smile

Not coincidently the 2012 album is the only BB album I have bought since "Love You"

[Kato]

Not coincidently the 2012 album is the only BB album I have bought since "Love You"

I like the LA Album, the band dong their best BW impersonations. A bit saccharine but OK, it is slim pickings post Love You.

BW 1988 album stands up, and a few tracks from his various solo stuff but diminishing returns is understandable.

[G15 Hibs]

Another tragedy was the demise of Dennis Wilson, who on reflection was a great talent on his own, lived the fast life, bombed and burnt at age 39!

Pacific Ocean Blue is a terrific album, probably the best thing any Beach Boy produced either as a member of the band or solo after Surf's Up.

[CMurdoch]

The record company messed up as they released The Beach Boys Greatest Hits (Vol3?) within weeks of Pet Sounds release rather than get behind it.

Truth is The Beach Boys fell out of fashion. Rather than subtle arrangements and baroque chamber pop the fashion, post Hendrix, was for blunt VOLUME. Which BW was never going to deliver. (I suppose the mental health issues and the chronic cocaine habit didn't help either.)

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That's it in a nutshell. I only started listening to them properly when I became a music obsessive and ended up buying 95% of their albums up until '77.
Joe Public stopped listening when Brian moved on from the short songs about surfing, cars and girls. Capitol reacted by releasing compilations every year.
The Pet Sounds and Smile shows Wilson did almost 20 years ago with The Wondermints as his band are a memory I treasure.

[leith lynx]

Pacific Ocean Blue is a terrific album, probably the best thing any Beach Boy produced either as a member of the band or solo after Surf's Up.

Totally agree and that is the direction the band should have went, some great songs on that album with a big help from cousin Mike Love (who later was Dennis Wilson's father in law!)

[Kato]

That's it in a nutshell. I only started listening to them properly when I became a music obsessive and ended up buying 95% of their albums up until '77.
Joe Public stopped listening when Brian moved on from the short songs about surfing, cars and girls. Capitol reacted by releasing compilations every year.
The Pet Sounds and Smile shows Wilson did almost 20 years ago with The Wondermints as his band are a memory I treasure.

Pet Sounds actually went platinum in the US at the time but there was some glitch and many sales weren't logged nutil years later.

The Pet Sounds gig at The Playhouse was the bomb - a wee warm-up of You're Welcome and Cabinessence blew the top of your head off. Was also at the first night performance of SMiLE at the RFH - sat next to Peter Blake no less.

[leith lynx]

That's it in a nutshell. I only started listening to them properly when I became a music obsessive and ended up buying 95% of their albums up until '77.
Joe Public stopped listening when Brian moved on from the short songs about surfing, cars and girls. Capitol reacted by releasing compilations every year.
The Pet Sounds and Smile shows Wilson did almost 20 years ago with The Wondermints as his band are a memory I treasure.
Thing is, given the quality of their 60 year back catalogue, they are or have been criminally underrated in their own country, much more appreciated here in Europe!

[CMurdoch]

I like the LA Album, the band dong their best BW impersonations. A bit saccharine but OK, it is slim pickings post Love You.

BW 1988 album stands up, and a few tracks from his various solo stuff but diminishing returns is understandable.

I avoided the LA Album but recently heard it and there is good stuff on it like "Good Timin'". Certainly sounded better than "15 Big Ones" from 76.
I bought BW when it came out. It was rereleased with lots of outtakes but I haven't heard them more than once.

Loads of good BB boxsets of sessions and outtakes have come out in recent years.
I'm currently ploughing through the 5 discs of the recently released "Feel Flows: The Sunflower & Surfs Up Sessions 1968-1971"

[Kato]

I avoided the LA Album but recently heard it and there is good stuff on it like "Good Timin'". Certainly sounded better than "15 Big Ones" from 76.
I bought BW when it came out. It was rereleased with lots of outtakes but I haven't heard them more than once.

Loads of good BB boxsets of sessions and outtakes have come out in recent years.
I am currently ploughing through the 5 discs of the most recent one - "Feel Flows: The Sunflower & Surfs Up Sessions 1968-1971

15 stinky ones more like - but it served it's purpose of getting BW back in the studio and we got Love You as a result. I like Had To Phone Ya but prefer his wife's version.

I check out those batch releases on Spotify these days. The biggest revelation is the lead vocals to "Passing By", which BW "wiped" back in the day - "wiped" like he "burned" the Fire tapes.

BW 1988 is like a bookend to Love You, it illustrates the advances in synths over the 10 years between the releases. Love both those albums.

[CMurdoch]

Pet Sounds actually went platinum in the US at the time but there was some glitch and many sales weren't logged nutil years later.

The Pet Sounds gig at The Playhouse was the bomb - a wee warm-up of You're Welcome and Cabinessence blew the top of your head off. Was also at the first night performance of SMiLE at the RFH - sat next to Peter Blake no less.

Wow!
I went to the 1st UK show for Pet Sounds which was at The Armadillo in Glasgow. Drove through in horrific snow.
Some months later I took my wife to the show at The Playhouse on the 12th June 2002 (have a gig poster on the wall). Think that sounds like the show you were at.
The Smile show I was at was in Glasgow.

[leith lynx]

Pet Sounds actually went platinum in the US at the time but there was some glitch and many sales weren't logged nutil years later.

The Pet Sounds gig at The Playhouse was the bomb - a wee warm-up of You're Welcome and Cabinessence blew the top of your head off. Was also at the first night performance of SMiLE at the RFH - sat next to Peter Blake no less.
Wee story about the Beach Boys Playhouse gig in 2008, post concert we went for a few drinks down the shore at Leith, went in to the Malmaison and the whole band were in the lounge, Mike Love later breezed in and bought the whole party drinks.. including us! Him and David Marks very friendly, not so much Bruce Johnston!

[Kato]

Wee story about the Beach Boys Playhouse gig in 2008, post concert we went for a few drinks down the shore at Leith, went in to the Malmaison and the whole band were in the lounge, Mike Love later breezed in and bought the whole party drinks.. including us! Him and David Marks very friendly, not so much Bruce Johnston!Nice. Haven't seen The Beach Boys since the mid80's but that is brilliant you hooked up with them.

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[Kato]

The Playhouse on the 12th June 2002 (have a gig poster on the wall). Think that sounds like the show you were at.

Must be. Great night - a proper edgy gig rather than a "recital" which can happen with that band.

I was on the "SMiLE Research Laboratories" email list at he time (long gone) and it took a while to convince the septics that Cabinessence had actually been performed.

[leith lynx]

Wow!
I went to the 1st UK show for Pet Sounds which was at The Armadillo in Glasgow. Drove through in horrific snow.
Some months later I took my wife to the show at The Playhouse on the 12th June 2002 (have a gig poster on the wall). Think that sounds like the show you were at.
The Smile show I was at was in Glasgow.
Was at that first Glasgow gig as well, think it was Burns night?.. was lucky enough to meet Brian post gig, always remember everyone warm and sweating and there's BW sitting there like a big polar bear with a huge winter parka on just signing stuff and not saying much!

[CMurdoch]

Must be. Great night - a proper edgy gig rather than a "recital" which can happen with that band.

I was on the "SMiLE Research Laboratories" email list at he time (long gone) and it took a while to convince the septics that Cabinessence had actually been performed.

Old men were chatting about it like excited kids in the toilets during the break

[CMurdoch]

Was at that first Glasgow gig as well, think it was Burns night?.. was lucky enough to meet Brian post gig, always remember everyone warm and sweating and there's BW sitting there like a big polar bear with a huge winter parka on just signing stuff and not saying much!

Yeah it was, 25th January 2002.
The night BW opened his 2002 UK tour at the Glasgow Armadillo, ahead of the London RFH gigs.
Appalling weather that night. Snowtastic!
Wonderful gig. Men with a bit of dust in the eye all over the auditorium that night.

[leith lynx]

Nice. Haven't seen The Beach Boys since the mid80's but that is brilliant you hooked up with them.

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First saw them Wembley 1980,also at Wembley 2012, great gig but not the same without Carl & Dennis Wilson, wish I'd seen them at Wembley stadium 1975 tho, where they outstaged Elton John and the Eagles (too young!)

[Kato]

First saw them Wembley 1980

Was BW onstage?

[CMurdoch]

15 stinky ones more like - but it served it's purpose of getting BW back in the studio and we got Love You as a result. I like Had To Phone Ya but prefer his wife's version.

I check out those batch releases on Spotify these days. The biggest revelation is the lead vocals to "Passing By", which BW "wiped" back in the day - "wiped" like he "burned" the Fire tapes.

BW 1988 is like a bookend to Love You, it illustrates the advances in synths over the 10 years between the releases. Love both those albums.

Loads of **** cover versions.
Even the cover art is horrific.
Greasy haired Brian and Love wearing one of his poncy hats.
Dreadful stuff.

Had To Phone Ya" is good. A nice weirdness to it. The Honeys version removes the weirdness.
Only other non cover track I can remember from it is "It's O.K."
"Just Once In My Life" cover is pretty good
What other tracks are serviceable from the album?

[Inconsequential]

I could never get into the Beach Boys. A lover of rock music over five decades with a quite sizable collection I bought Pet Sounds with great expectations as it was rated as an all time great. Just don't like it. Certain albums take a few listens before you start to warm to them but not this one. LP remains virtually pristine in my collection. Now, I wonder if it's worth anything? ��

[Kato]

I could never get into the Beach Boys. A lover of rock music over five decades with a quite sizable collection I bought Pet Sounds with great expectations as it was rated as an all time great. Just don't like it. Certain albums take a few listens before you start to warm to them but not this one. LP remains virtually pristine in my collection. Now, I wonder if it's worth anything? ��

Pet Sounds isn't a rock album.

Some pressings are worth quite a bit. Years ago I got £50 for a "stereoised" early 70's pressing. The stereoisation was rubbish. Check Discogs.

[CMurdoch]

I could never get into the Beach Boys. A lover of rock music over five decades with a quite sizable collection I bought Pet Sounds with great expectations as it was rated as an all time great. Just don't like it. Certain albums take a few listens before you start to warm to them but not this one. LP remains virtually pristine in my collection. Now, I wonder if it's worth anything? ��

As Kato says it all depends on the pressing and there are hundreds of them.
I have a 1976 US mono pressing that according to Discogs is worth £12 minimum, £37 medium and £92 max.
Look yours up. You will need stuff like the country, the catalogue number, mono or stereo, the record label and it's art, whats scratched in the run out grooves, the way the songs are printed on the label and sleeve. That will help you tell what year your copy was pressed and at which pressing plant. Odds are it will be worth £30 which will be more than you paid for it. Obviously condition is mega important to value.

[leith lynx]

Was BW onstage?

Yes, Brian was there (in body!).. he spent most of the gig drinking and smoking while tinkling on the piano, if I remember.

[leith lynx]

Loads of **** cover versions.
Even the cover art is horrific.
Greasy haired Brian and Love wearing one of his poncy hats.
Dreadful stuff.

Had To Phone Ya" is good. A nice weirdness to it. The Honeys version removes the weirdness.
Only other non cover track I can remember from it is "It's O.K."
"Just Once In My Life" cover is pretty good
What other tracks are serviceable from the album?
'Had to phone ya' is 'Trombone Dixie' from the Pet Sounds sessions, 'it's OK' should have been a massive summer hit but they released it in September, 'Once in my life' is a great Brian/Carl duet, 'Rock&Roll music was a big hit in US, but apart from that only Palisdes Park passes muster IMHO

[Kato]

Yes, Brian was there (in body!).. he spent most of the gig drinking and smoking while tinkling on the piano, if I remember.I know the gig you are talking about. My mate who educated me on SMILE (a wee cassette of the 2nd ever bootleg) still revels in the fact he was there.

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[Kato]

'Had to phone ya' is 'Trombone Dixie' from the Pet Sounds sessions

Blimey. I now need to listen to both as I haven't noticed that before. You are sending me down that rabbit-hole again.

I like the Amercian Spring stuff from that mid 70's era. Clean, no baggage sweet production and tunes.

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[CMurdoch]

'Had to phone ya' is 'Trombone Dixie' from the Pet Sounds sessions, 'it's OK' should have been a massive summer hit but they released it in September, 'Once in my life' is a great Brian/Carl duet, 'Rock&Roll music was a big hit in US, but apart from that only Palisdes Park passes muster IMHO

Fortunately that cover although light isn't as well known in the UK as the US whereas the likes of RnR Music was just pointless.

[leith lynx]

Blimey. I now need to listen to both as I haven't noticed that before. You are sending me down that rabbit-hole again.

I like the Amercian Spring stuff from that mid 70's era. Clean, no baggage sweet production and tunes.

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If you listen to the instrumental version of 'Had to phone ya' its a lot more clearer to identify, also works as a great mobile ring!

[leith lynx]

Fortunately that song isn't as well known in the UK as the US whereas the likes of RnR Music was just pointless.

True, but was it better than the Beatles version?

[Kato]

If you listen to the instrumental version of 'Had to phone ya' its a lot more clearer to identify, also works as a great mobile ring!Yup. I hear it.

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[leith lynx]

Blimey. I now need to listen to both as I haven't noticed that before. You are sending me down that rabbit-hole again.

I like the Amercian Spring stuff from that mid 70's era. Clean, no baggage sweet production and tunes.

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Talking about BB rabbit holes, try the 'Sail on' podcast on Spotify, non-returnable! especially the Smile stuff...

[CMurdoch]

Blimey. I now need to listen to both as I haven't noticed that before. You are sending me down that rabbit-hole again.

I like the Amercian Spring stuff from that mid 70's era. Clean, no baggage sweet production and tunes.

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Neither had I!

[Kato]

Talking about BB rabbit holes, try the 'Sail on' podcast on Spotify, non-returnable! especially the Smile stuff...Apart from Priore and Tobelman I have a low threshold for SMiLE chat. Too much rot spoken about that album.


EDIT

Am looking it up now.

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[brog]

I 'worked' with The Beach Boys during their 2 shows at The ABC in 1967. It was their final date of the UK leg & Carl Wilson joined them for the 1st time. He had been fighting the Vietnam draft. I still get shivers when I remember Carl singing God Only Knows with tears running down his face. They were all seriously drunk but I arranged for someone to run across the road & buy them haggis and fish suppers between shows. Terry Reid, great guy and fine singer with Peter Jay and the Jaywalkers was off his face. He spilled red wine all over his white suit backstage & somehow we got it drycleaned and back to him for the 2nd show. It was one big party, I stood beside Helen Shapiro in the wings as she sang the deep parts of Good Vibrations. Incidentally that was 1st time I saw a mixing deck being fed in to supplement the vocals.
At the end of the 2nd show The Beach Boys ran along the corridor and into a car parked by the Stage Door, Mike Love stayed behind sticking his head through the curtains to convince the audience there was another encore coming then took off to join them on the short trip to The Caley.
I came out about 45 minutes later & there were still hundreds of kids waiting for The Beach Boys to emerge!

[CMurdoch]

True, but was it better than the Beatles version?

Generally not a good idea to cover a Chuck Berry song.
The original Chuck Berry version has great Johnnie Johnson piano lines in it.
The Beatles excuse is it was 1964 when they released it and it was early in their career.
The lead vocal is good and they put a bit of welly into it but I would have much preferred another original on the "Beatles For Sale" album instead
The Beach Boys recording of the song is from 1976 when they should have known better.
Their version sounds like Showbizness rather than music
Mike lead vocal is yuck, I like some of the backing vocal sections but it should have been binned.

[CMurdoch]

I 'worked' with The Beach Boys during their 2 shows at The ABC in 1967. It was their final date of the UK leg & Carl Wilson joined them for the 1st time. He had been fighting the Vietnam draft. I still get shivers when I remember Carl singing God Only Knows with tears running down his face. They were all seriously drunk but I arranged for someone to run across the road & buy them haggis and fish suppers between shows. Terry Reid, great guy and fine singer with Peter Jay and the Jaywalkers was off his face. He spilled red wine all over his white suit backstage & somehow we got it drycleaned and back to him for the 2nd show. It was one big party, I stood beside Helen Shapiro in the wings as she sang the deep parts of Good Vibrations. Incidentally that was 1st time I saw a mixing deck being fed in to supplement the vocals.
At the end of the 2nd show The Beach Boys ran along the corridor and into a car parked by the Stage Door, Mike Love stayed behind sticking his head through the curtains to convince the audience there was another encore coming then took off to join them on the short trip to The Caley.
I came out about 45 minutes later & there were still hundreds of kids waiting for The Beach Boys to emerge!

Thanks for sharing Brog
We have well and truly taken this thread off course but it has been fun.
Lots of good stories.

[leith lynx]

I 'worked' with The Beach Boys during their 2 shows at The ABC in 1967. It was their final date of the UK leg & Carl Wilson joined them for the 1st time. He had been fighting the Vietnam draft. I still get shivers when I remember Carl singing God Only Knows with tears running down his face. They were all seriously drunk but I arranged for someone to run across the road & buy them haggis and fish suppers between shows. Terry Reid, great guy and fine singer with Peter Jay and the Jaywalkers was off his face. He spilled red wine all over his white suit backstage & somehow we got it drycleaned and back to him for the 2nd show. It was one big party, I stood beside Helen Shapiro in the wings as she sang the deep parts of Good Vibrations. Incidentally that was 1st time I saw a mixing deck being fed in to supplement the vocals.
At the end of the 2nd show The Beach Boys ran along the corridor and into a car parked by the Stage Door, Mike Love stayed behind sticking his head through the curtains to convince the audience there was another encore coming then took off to join them on the short trip to The Caley.
I came out about 45 minutes later & there were still hundreds of kids waiting for The Beach Boys to emerge!

Interesting, could I ask you what you're role was? am I right in saying Terry Reid passed away a couple of years ago? was meant to be some character! EDIT Just checked, apoligies to Terry Reid et all! Still alive and kicking!

[Kato]

Brilliant, Brog.

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[brog]

Interesting, could I ask you what you're role was? am I right in saying Terry Reid passed away a couple of years ago? was meant to be some character! EDIT Just checked, apoligies to Terry Reid et all! Still alive and kicking!

I was only 19 and really just working as a steward/bouncer. However at prior concert, can't remember who, I was put in charge of all the stewards. About an hour before the BB concert started the ABC manager asked me to act as backstage liaison, primarily for the Beach Boys but also for anyone else. In those days there were 2 shows with about 6 acts and I think Management were concerned show was going to be abandoned if the party continued. It was a hectic night but great fun.

[leith lynx]

I was only 19 and really just working as a steward/bouncer. However at prior concert, can't remember who, I was put in charge of all the stewards. About an hour before the BB concert started the ABC manager asked me to act as backstage liaison, primarily for the Beach Boys but also for anyone else. In those days there were 2 shows with about 6 acts and I think Management were concerned show was going to be abandoned if the party continued. It was a hectic night but great fun.

Thanks brog, great story, any memories of Dennis Wilson?

[Kato]

Thanks brog, great story, any memories of Dennis Wilson?Surely had to drag him out the Pubic Triangle between shows.

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[brog]

Thanks brog, great story, any memories of Dennis Wilson?

I think I nicked a couple of his chips, but not really. I just remember he really was the epitome of a Beach Boy, really good looking and friendly, as they all were.

[leith lynx]

Surely had to drag him out the Pubic Triangle between shows.

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Probably true! Dennis nickname was 'the wood'

[CMurdoch]

15 stinky ones more like - but it served it's purpose of getting BW back in the studio and we got Love You as a result. I like Had To Phone Ya but prefer his wife's version.

I check out those batch releases on Spotify these days. The biggest revelation is the lead vocals to "Passing By", which BW "wiped" back in the day - "wiped" like he "burned" the Fire tapes.

BW 1988 is like a bookend to Love You, it illustrates the advances in synths over the 10 years between the releases. Love both those albums.

This is stuck in my head now. Can't move it!

[leith lynx]

This is stuck in my head now. Can't move it!

C'mon C'mon, C'mon and answer the phone!

[CMurdoch]

C'mon C'mon, C'mon and answer the phone!

:agree:

[Kato]

This is stuck in my head now. Can't move it!Love American Spring. Been listening to "Friends" a lot.

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[leith lynx]

Love American Spring. Been listening to "Friends" a lot.

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Think 'Friends' was the perfect antidote to the madness of 'Smile', for BW at least.

[bringbackbenny]

The best week of my life was in May 2016.

SDG in injury time then Brian Wilson at the Usher Hall a few days later, godlike genius from both lol

[Mick O'Rourke]

I 'worked' with The Beach Boys during their 2 shows at The ABC in 1967. It was their final date of the UK leg & Carl Wilson joined them for the 1st time. He had been fighting the Vietnam draft. I still get shivers when I remember Carl singing God Only Knows with tears running down his face. They were all seriously drunk but I arranged for someone to run across the road & buy them haggis and fish suppers between shows. Terry Reid, great guy and fine singer with Peter Jay and the Jaywalkers was off his face. He spilled red wine all over his white suit backstage & somehow we got it drycleaned and back to him for the 2nd show. It was one big party, I stood beside Helen Shapiro in the wings as she sang the deep parts of Good Vibrations. Incidentally that was 1st time I saw a mixing deck being fed in to supplement the vocals.
At the end of the 2nd show The Beach Boys ran along the corridor and into a car parked by the Stage Door, Mike Love stayed behind sticking his head through the curtains to convince the audience there was another encore coming then took off to join them on the short trip to The Caley.
I came out about 45 minutes later & there were still hundreds of kids waiting for The Beach Boys to emerge!



Briilliant recollection ,Brian
Good memory of an experience most would not encounter



But oor Billy drank Les Gray(MUD) under the table in an hotel in Bristol.
Les nearly missed his set cos of Billy.
Had Alex Harvey speechless wae his jokes and told Noddy Holder to get a haircut
He also invited Cliff Richard to visit the Clerry Inn when they met at a Polydor function in London when he was with Bilbo Baggins

He must have scared the pants of Cliff ..... you knew Billy!!



first EP i bought "God Only Knows"
played this vinyl disc till it nearly melted, or broke my mothers radiogram
wonderful songs



Aye "wouldnt it be nice " ......... to win the cup again !!

[leith lynx]

The best week of my life was in May 2016.

SDG in injury time then Brian Wilson at the Usher Hall a few days later, godlike genius from both lol
Snap!