Nathan Wood

[Key West]

Spotted him yesterday playing piggy in the middle at half time, a good all round defensive display yesterday must have made his chances of getting a game even more remote, maybe waiting for Porteous to be suspended?

[Since452]

Not ideal for Neil Warnock or Nathan that he hasn't broken into the side. Porto has been excellent though and Hanlon is our captain. Is it a season long loan? We'll need him at some point.

[Hiber-nation]

He's here as a squad player. He'll maybe get a game if Porteous or another defender is out. Defence are doing fine at the moment.

[H18 SFR]

Did anyone pick up on the accuracy of the guy’s shooting in the warm up drill?

I’d be converting him to a striker. Stokes the ball so cleanly.

[bingo70]

He was always just going to be coming in as cover.

That’s why I could never understand why we were looking to pay big money by our standards for McCart. No way he’s any better than Porteous or Hanlon so we’d have spent a fortune for someone to sit on the bench.

[gbhibby]

Should be given a chance. Heard he was very quick as well.

[Coco Bryce]

He's 6'2" maybe we could play him as a target man up front :greengrin

[easty]

He was always just going to be coming in as cover.

That’s why I could never understand why we were looking to pay big money by our standards for McCart. No way he’s any better than Porteous or Hanlon so we’d have spent a fortune for someone to sit on the bench.

Exactly, he was brought in as cover, he’s been available as cover, I don’t see the issue.

[Since452]

He was always just going to be coming in as cover.

That’s why I could never understand why we were looking to pay big money by our standards for McCart. No way he’s any better than Porteous or Hanlon so we’d have spent a fortune for someone to sit on the bench.

The more i see of McCart the more i feel we've dodged a bullet.

[Pretty Boy]

He was getting ready to come on at one point yesterday.

Him and Gogic had been warming up, Wood went back in, was standing behind the dug out getting instructions from a tablet or clipboard or something then stood for another minute or 2 before he was told to sit down.

[lord bunberry]

Exactly, he was brought in as cover, he’s been available as cover, I don’t see the issue.
I think he’ll be away in January if he’s not playing. He’s a young player who apparently has lots of potential, sitting on the bench every week won’t be acceptable to him or Middlesbrough. That would be the case with any young player on loan I’d imagine.

[Smartie]

Did anyone pick up on the accuracy of the guy’s shooting in the warm up drill?

I’d be converting him to a striker. Stokes the ball so cleanly.

The new David Stephens?

[Tully]

Certainly a lot better than David Stephens

[hibeejeebies]

He's 6'2" maybe we could play him as a target man up front :greengrin

Two birds, one stone. I like it.

[hibbysam]

We are going to have to rotate a little at some point - especially around November/December when we play so many games and suspensions hit. It’ll be up to him then to take his chance.

[gbhibby]

The more i see of McCart the more i feel we've dodged a bullet.
Thought Rooney was outstanding for St J. Looked excellent when he moved more centrally to cover for McCart.

[bigwheel]

The more i see of McCart the more i feel we've dodged a bullet.

Reminded me of Hanlon …similar standard ..obviously had a mare getting sent off , but outside of that did fine

Can’t imagine him currently being a starter for us though, unless we moved to a three

[cabbageandribs1875]

I think he’ll be away in January if he’s not playing. He’s a young player who apparently has lots of potential, sitting on the bench every week won’t be acceptable to him or Middlesbrough. That would be the case with any young player on loan I’d imagine.


this :agree: he could be playing for Middlesbrough u23's instead against probably better opposition, i can't remember the timing but was he taken on when it looked like josh doig was away.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Thought Rooney was outstanding for St J. Looked excellent when he moved more centrally to cover for McCart.


he did have a good game :agree:

[easty]

I think he’ll be away in January if he’s not playing. He’s a young player who apparently has lots of potential, sitting on the bench every week won’t be acceptable to him or Middlesbrough. That would be the case with any young player on loan I’d imagine.

I’d have no problem with him being recalled in January if Middlesbrough want him to get first team football. He’s their player, and it’s their problem.

[easty]

this :agree: he could be playing for Middlesbrough u23's instead against probably better opposition, i can't remember the timing but was he taken on when it looked like josh doig was away.

I don’t agree that he’d be up against better opposition playing in Middlesbrough U23s. You’d maybe get a few decent players every now and then, but the majority would be guys who, if they came to us on loan, would be a sub.

[Lendo]

He's 6'2" maybe we could play him as a target man up front :greengrin

Did we not do that with Rob Jones on a few occasions?

[cabbageandribs1875]

I don’t agree that he’d be up against better opposition playing in Middlesbrough U23s. You’d maybe get a few decent players every now and then, but the majority would be guys who, if they came to us on loan, would be a sub.


i had actually used arguably first before changing to probably :) either way the guy is captain of the english u20's and could be pitting himself against a whole different type of player down south

[easty]

i had actually used arguably first before changing to probably :) either way the guy is captain of the english u20's and could be pitting himself against a whole different type of player down south

He probably is a good player, but the defence is playing well enough that there’s no reason to play him.

If he was our player then I’d probably argue that we should be giving him minutes, but he’s not, and I couldn’t really care less about developing another teams player, if it’s not directly benefiting us.

[Highwayman]

He probably is a good player, but the defence is playing well enough that there’s no reason to play him.

If he was our player then I’d probably argue that we should be giving him minutes, but he’s not, and I couldn’t really care less about developing another teams player, if it’s not directly benefiting us.
Take your point that it’s not Hibs responsibility to develop other teams young players.
But it could give teams down south points to ponder about sending young players up to ER only to find they’re confined to the bench.
Think Wood will get an opportunity sometime,but the longer he doesn’t the more likely it is that Middlesbrough will take action to shorten his loan spell.

[Nicho87]

Did we not do that with Rob Jones on a few occasions?

Think so and I can’t recall us ever scoring from him playing in the emergency striker role for the last five minutes truth be told.

[Since452]

I couldn't care less but it's quite poor from Middlesbrough sending him to a club where he is unlikely to play. If we've got a good player on the bench waiting to come on then that's all im really bothered about but if i was a Middlesbrough fan i'd be asking a few questions of Warnock especially with them toiling by the looks of it.

[Smartie]

I couldn't care less but it's quite poor from Middlesbrough sending him to a club where he is unlikely to play. If we've got a good player on the bench waiting to come on then that's all im really bothered about but if i was a Middlesbrough fan i'd be asking a few questions of Warnock.

Maybe part of the experience he is gaining with us is challenging for a starting spot rather than being gifted one?

He's got to train well, stay patient and be sure to take his chance when he gets it. That's what Middlesbrough are going to want him to do over the next few years.

There's probably a higher chance of him managing to break into the team with us than with them ie less players to get ahead of to get his 1st team game.

It should be a deal that suits all 3 parties and I still think it could be.

There's no way he should have been expecting to breeze in ahead of either Hanlon or Porto but he should be given a fair crack at keeping his position when he eventually gets his chance.

[jacomo]

Take your point that it’s not Hibs responsibility to develop other teams young players.
But it could give teams down south points to ponder about sending young players up to ER only to find they’re confined to the bench.
Think Wood will get an opportunity sometime,but the longer he doesn’t the more likely it is that Middlesbrough will take action to shorten his loan spell.


Boro make seek to end the loan early, they may not, but these things happen, especially with keepers and centre backs who are rarely substituted during the game.

I doubt any other club will think twice about loaning us a player based on what has happened with Nathan Wood so far.

[Lendo]

Think so and I can’t recall us ever scoring from him playing in the emergency striker role for the last five minutes truth be told.

Nah me either, but he would have had it not been from one of the best saves I’ve seen Craig Gordon ever make.

[Eyrie]

I couldn't care less but it's quite poor from Middlesbrough sending him to a club where he is unlikely to play. If we've got a good player on the bench waiting to come on then that's all im really bothered about but if i was a Middlesbrough fan i'd be asking a few questions of Warnock especially with them toiling by the looks of it.

Yup.

Middlesbrough would have asked about potential game time and looked at how likely that was to happen. They still sent Wood to us and not somewhere he'd have been playing regularly.

[hibbysam]

Yup.

Middlesbrough would have asked about potential game time and looked at how likely that was to happen. They still sent Wood to us and not somewhere he'd have been playing regularly.

If it was an issue for them then they will have put a fee into the contract for every game he doesn’t play. Fairly common where clubs expect the player to play.

[easty]

If it was an issue for them then they will have put a fee into the contract for every game he doesn’t play. Fairly common where clubs expect the player to play.

I dunno if it’s as common as Football Manager would have us believe.

I’d imagine the vast majority of loans in Scotland only have a % of salary covered at most. Maybe it gets called a “loan fee” but it’s just covering wages.

[hibbysam]

I dunno if it’s as common as Football Manager would have us believe.

I’d imagine the vast majority of loans in Scotland only have a % of salary covered at most. Maybe it gets called a “loan fee” but it’s just covering wages.

It’s common down south. It won’t happen a lot up here but my point was around if Boro were desperate for him to play every week then they’d have something like that included so that we felt obliged to or it would hurt our pockets.

[cabbageandribs1875]

I don’t agree that he’d be up against better opposition playing in Middlesbrough U23s. You’d maybe get a few decent players every now and then, but the majority would be guys who, if they came to us on loan, would be a sub.


the more i think about it the more i'm baffled(not hard to do) :) why would middlesbrough send the english u2-'s captain on loan to a club where he's not getting first team action, why send him up here to sit on a bench when he could sit on a bench down there, again i'm sure the timing of this was when young doig was expected to move on and we needed someone to fill his position albeit we still would have had a more than capable left back to fill in :hmmm: i'd like to see him get a game but not at the expense of young doig missing out

[hibsbollah]

I dunno if it’s as common as Football Manager would have us believe.

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Sacrilege! It’s the root of all footballing knowledge I tells ye

[hibsbollah]

Was interested to read he’s Dean Gordon’s son, very decent full back for Crystal Palace in the 90s with an occasional spectacular goal in him. They must have settled on Teesside.

[JimBHibees]

Was interested to read he’s Dean Gordon’s son, very decent full back for Crystal Palace in the 90s with an occasional spectacular goal in him. They must have settled on Teesside.

Think Dean played for Middlesbrough also. Assume must have settled in the area.

[JimBHibees]

the more i think about it the more i'm baffled(not hard to do) :) why would middlesbrough send the english u2-'s captain on loan to a club where he's not getting first team action, why send him up here to sit on a bench when he could sit on a bench down there, again i'm sure the timing of this was when young doig was expected to move on and we needed someone to fill his position albeit we still would have had a more than capable left back to fill in :hmmm: i'd like to see him get a game but not at the expense of young doig missing out

I think it is as simple as them thinking he is more likely to get game time here. Think Warnock is pretty up to speed with our league so thought a decent move and probably also impressed we have our own training centre. Player probably comfortable coming up to Edinburgh plus also not far from home. May also know Jack from his Sunderland days. Sure he will get some game time however our centre backs are playing well at present which may also be because he provides genuine competition which is a good thing also.

[lord bunberry]

the more i think about it the more i'm baffled(not hard to do) :) why would middlesbrough send the english u2-'s captain on loan to a club where he's not getting first team action, why send him up here to sit on a bench when he could sit on a bench down there, again i'm sure the timing of this was when young doig was expected to move on and we needed someone to fill his position albeit we still would have had a more than capable left back to fill in :hmmm: i'd like to see him get a game but not at the expense of young doig missing out
I wonder how good you have to be to get a game for the under 20s team. I’d imagine if he was considered a top prospect he’d be playing in the far more prestigious under 21 team. I’m not putting him down, but it does seem a bit strange that someone with what looks like a cracking CV can’t get a game for Middlesbrough and is being loaned out to us. The more I think about it the more I’m intrigued to see him play.

[Northernhibee]

I also think that people are underestimating how good a partnership Hanlon and Porteous are. It must be a nightmare to displace them from a squad getting good results.

[Coco Bryce]

I also think that people are underestimating how good a partnership Hanlon and Porteous are. It must be a nightmare to displace them from a squad getting good results.

This :agree:

[Stevie Reid]

I'm just glad he hasn't been needed. If we had a couple of injuries at CH, a good few folk would be claiming that the squad is weak and that the recruitment was poor.

He'll get his time, for sure. Hope it isn't for a good while though.