John McGinn yesterday

[hibeg]

He was superb at Old Trafford, bossed the midfield. Maguire should have been sent off for a rugby tackle on him, they just could not handle his drive and intensity
Top Brass at Man U would surely have been impressed.
He was also excellent in the recent game at Chelsea
He seems to have stepped up a level after a ropey 20/21 season.
If he keeps up these recent standards then there can surely be no doubts that big bids will be incoming.

[blackpoolhibs]

Last season he came back from injury and was not the same player for a while, but this season he's back to himself and more.:top marks

God i hope someone buys him. :greengrin

[mcohibs]

What percentage of the transfer fee to we get if he is bought?

[green day]

He was superb at Old Trafford, bossed the midfield. Maguire should have been sent off for a rugby tackle on him, they just could not handle his drive and intensity
Top Brass at Man U would surely have been impressed.
He was also excellent in the recent game at Chelsea
He seems to have stepped up a level after a ropey 20/21 season.
If he keeps up these recent standards then there can surely be no doubts that big bids will be incoming.

Watched the whole game, agree entirely - he was excellent.

I would go so far as to say that Man Urd may have won that match if he was playing for them.

[hibby rae]

What percentage of the transfer fee to we get if he is bought?

Never been properly announced. Rumoured to be anything between 10 and 20%.

[Andy74]

Never been properly announced. Rumoured to be anything between 10 and 20%.

It was confirmed at the last AGM. Can’t be arsed looking but it was confirmed. The finance director went to look at the contract to be sure.

[gbhibby]

Villa fans reckon he is a £60m+ player. If he keeps up his performances I am sure they will receive some offers come January.

[danhibees1875]

Never been properly announced. Rumoured to be anything between 10 and 20%.

It has been but I can't remember it off hand.

I think it was effectively just over 10% after StM take their cut.

I have the following numbers in my head (based on a cut price £50M transfer :wink: ):
Villa: £42.5M
Hibs: £5.25M
St mirren: £2.25M

[MWHIBBIES]

No one is gonna pay what he's worth to Villa. Think he'll be there for a while.

[easty]

No one is gonna pay what he's worth to Villa. Think he'll be there for a while.

Dunno. This is a league where Ben White moved for £50m.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

No one is gonna pay what he's worth to Villa. Think he'll be there for a while.

:agree:

Villa have no reason to sell their assets, and only sold Grealish as they had no option when the 100M buy out fee was met.

[JohnM1875]

No one is gonna pay what he's worth to Villa. Think he'll be there for a while.

He might well love it at Villa but if someone like a Man Utd, Liverpool etc come in for him he'll 100% want to take that challenge on. So Villa will sell if he wants the move.

[MWHIBBIES]

Dunno. This is a league where Ben White moved for £50m.

White was a bit different, though. Obviously arsenal overplayed, that's for sure. But they're buying a cb for 10 years, who is homegrown, never really settled at Brighton (wanted away to Leeds a year before) and Brighton could afford to lose him as they have Dunk, Veltman and the other big lad, Burn I think, to fill that role.

Villa are a much bigger club who just got 100 million, and McGinn definitely won't force a move. I personally just can't see it, but you never know.

[Joe6-2]

Just watched the game, he was excellent!
Can’t believe the penalty MU got! Well, I do believe it actually

[Lago]

Last season he came back from injury and was not the same player for a while, but this season he's back to himself and more.:top marks

God i hope someone buys him. :greengrin
Seems very happy and settled at Villa, good luck to him.

[SChibs]

White was a bit different, though. Obviously arsenal overplayed, that's for sure. But they're buying a cb for 10 years, who is homegrown, never really settled at Brighton (wanted away to Leeds a year before) and Brighton could afford to lose him as they have Dunk, Veltman and the other big lad, Burn I think, to fill that role.

Villa are a much bigger club who just got 100 million, and McGinn definitely won't force a move. I personally just can't see it, but you never know.

They also have Shane Duffy who is apparently playing well this season

[richard_pitts]

Watched the whole game, agree entirely - he was excellent.

I would go so far as to say that Man Urd may have won that match if he was playing for them.

I've always said he'd do very well at Man United - exactly the kind of midfielder their best teams have had and what they need.

[CmoantheHibs]

I think he may move in the next year or 2. He will want to play against the best in the champions league and he is almost 27 and close to his prime. I don’t think Villa will be able to push into the cl spots so to achieve this he will likely have to move on. It will all depend on whether one of the big 4 want him and are willing to meet what Villa want.

[nonshinyfinish]

It has been but I can't remember it off hand.

I think it was effectively just over 10% after StM take their cut.

I have the following numbers in my head (based on a cut price £50M transfer :wink: ):
Villa: £42.5M
Hibs: £5.25M
St mirren: £2.25M

Yep, the figures given at the AGM were 15% with 30% of that going to St Mirren – effectively 10.5% of whatever the fee is to Hibs and 4.5% to St Mirren.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Highly doubt we will see anyone pay what villa would want for McGinn, he’ll be there for a long time

[Flanny boy]

He was superb at Old Trafford, bossed the midfield. Maguire should have been sent off for a rugby tackle on him, they just could not handle his drive and intensity
Top Brass at Man U would surely have been impressed.
He was also excellent in the recent game at Chelsea
He seems to have stepped up a level after a ropey 20/21 season.
If he keeps up these recent standards then there can surely be no doubts that big bids will be incoming.
Aye but he still wouldn’t get in the Celtic team 😆

[hibeg]

I think he may move in the next year or 2. He will want to play against the best in the champions league and he is almost 27 and close to his prime. I don’t think Villa will be able to push into the cl spots so to achieve this he will likely have to move on. It will all depend on whether one of the big 4 want him and are willing to meet what Villa want.

That was sort of my point in the OP. He was really good at Stamford Bridge and without doubt man of the match at Man U.
The big 4 will surely have noted that. I wasn’t sure if he was really at that level but now think he is.
On current form I reckon he could fit in at Man U or Liverpool
If either of them bid and SJM wanted the move then I reckon it would happen
Fee ? No idea but it would be lots of cash for Hibs :thumbsup:

[MWHIBBIES]

That was sort of my point in the OP. He was really good at Stamford Bridge and without doubt man of the match at Man U.
The big 4 will surely have noted that. I wasn’t sure if he was really at that level but now think he is.
On current form I reckon he could fit in at Man U or Liverpool
If either of them bid and SJM wanted the move then I reckon it would happen
Fee ? No idea but it would be lots of cash for Hibs :thumbsup:
There is just zero chance Liverpool pay the 60 odd million villa would want. That isn't their transfer policy at all.

[Centre Hawf]

He really is one of the best midfielders in that league outside the big 6. He'd walk into a few of their squads too.

[hibeg]

There is just zero chance Liverpool pay the 60 odd million villa would want. That isn't their transfer policy at all.

Ok, it will have to be Man U then :greengrin

[J-C]

McGinn bossed the midfield yesterday, that'll not be going unnoticed.

[The Veteran]

On his day, one of the best midfielders in the UK.

[HoboHarry]

There is just zero chance Liverpool pay the 60 odd million villa would want. That isn't their transfer policy at all.
I also think he won't end up at Liverpool but that 60M is less than they paid for both Allyson and Van Dijk. Liverpool will pay the fee if they want a player badly enough.

[MWHIBBIES]

I also think he won't end up at Liverpool but that 60M is less than they paid for both Allyson and Van Dijk. Liverpool will pay the fee if they want a player badly enough.

Mcginn is a tier below those guys in terms of ability, though.

[HoboHarry]

Mcginn is a tier below those guys in terms of ability, though.
That's an opinion on your part but not really the point either. You said Liverpool wouldn't pay that much per their transfer policy and that's simply not true if they want the player badly enough.

[Since452]

Mcginn is a tier below those guys in terms of ability, though.

Playing and training with better players and coaches would bring him on again

[BILLYHIBS]

McGinn has undoubtedly improved as a player since going to Villa and has adjusted well to playing at a higher level

It was apparent for all to see on Saturday

He is not the most naturally gifted of players but has worked hard on his game improving his range of passing and as we all know he can bring other qualities to the table : drive commitment unbridled enthusiasm a winner and a desire to drag his team single handedly up the park

A Scotland international scoring 10 goals from midfield

Yes Liverpool might not pony up but someone else will

He would not look out of place in that Man Utd side

If Celtic had only just paid the asking price they would have 10 titles now

If Jack Grealish is worth 100m anything came happen down South

Never say never as McGinn is unique no other top midfield player in the EPL has the qualities McGinn has

If anything I am surprised he doesn’t score more goals ?

[MWHIBBIES]

That's an opinion on your part but not really the point either. You said Liverpool wouldn't pay that much per their transfer policy and that's simply not true if they want the player badly enough.

Aye, okay. They'll pay that for real world class best in their position guys, on the back of shifting coutinho for 130 million.

McGinn really isn't the type Liverpool will spend silly money on. That's based on the 5 years since klopp arrived. It's not a knock against McGinn.

[Just_Jimmy]

Dunno. This is a league where Ben White moved for £50m.And grealish fell over a few times and went for £100m.

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[easty]

I also think he won't end up at Liverpool but that 60M is less than they paid for both Allyson and Van Dijk. Liverpool will pay the fee if they want a player badly enough.

£45m for Diego Jota not so long ago, from Wolves.

£45m for Fabinho and £52m for Keita. 2 midfielders who are not better than John McGinn.

[MWHIBBIES]

£45m for Diego Jota not so long ago, from Wolves.

£45m for Fabinho and £52m for Keita. 2 midfielders who are not better than John McGinn.

Fabinho is a tier above McGinn in centre midfield imo.

It's not that I don't rate McGinn. He's a great player who would likely do well at Liverpool. But he's not the type of signing they have gone for in the last 5 years. That may change, who knows.

[WhileTheChief..]

If he signs a new deal with Villa does that mean an end to our sell-on clause or would it carry over onto his new contract?

[danhibees1875]

If he signs a new deal with Villa does that mean an end to our sell-on clause or would it carry over onto his new contract?

Carry on, the deal is with Hibs, not between John and Villa.

I think he's signed a new deal since moving there already.

[nonshinyfinish]

If he signs a new deal with Villa does that mean an end to our sell-on clause or would it carry over onto his new contract?

Wouldn't change anything, the wording of the clause will be "any future transfer income" or something to that effect.

[gbhibby]

Fabinho is a tier above McGinn in centre midfield imo.

It's not that I don't rate McGinn. He's a great player who would likely do well at Liverpool. But he's not the type of signing they have gone for in the last 5 years. That may change, who knows.

McGinn is a dfferent type of player . Because a player is playing for a top four club does not make them a tier above. SJM would not look out of place in any of these teams. just ask villa fans. Does he need to add an o to his surname to make him a tier above.

[superfurryhibby]

McGinn will go where the money takes him. For all that he's a decent loyal player etc, etc..... He's not going to turn down a move to a top club, one where he plays at the highest level, sets himself up for life and has the chance of winning a trophy.

If Villa are swayed by an offer, then that will be enough incentive for him.

Time will tell, but I hope he gets a move ASAP.

[MWHIBBIES]

McGinn is a dfferent type of player . Because a player is playing for a top four club does not make them a tier above. SJM would not look out of place in any of these teams. just ask villa fans. Does he need to add an o to his surname to make him a tier above.
I know. Fabinho is a core player in a champions league and league winning Liverpool side, and a copa winning Brazil side. He's a world class defensive midfielder. He's a fantastic player. Better than McGinn imo.

[gbhibby]

I know. Fabinho is a core player in a champions league and league winning Liverpool side, and a copa winning Brazil side. He's a world class defensive midfielder. He's a fantastic player. Better than McGinn imo.
John McGinn is not a defensive midfielder so it's like comparing apples with pears. There are things that SJM can improve on like any player but a team is made up of players with different qualities and skills. There was something on YouTube put up when there were rumours of Liverpool being interested in him based on his stats and his stats made it a no brainer. There was the same thing done on YouTube when Man Utd rumour was in the press and again his stats were superb.
Hope he gets a move as we will benefit. Villa fans have been critical of him but now he seems to be back to full fitness he is the first name on their teamsheet.

[Since90+2]

McGinn will go where the money takes him. For all that he's a decent loyal player etc, etc..... He's not going to turn down a move to a top club, one where he plays at the highest level, sets himself up for life and has the chance of winning a trophy.

If Villa are swayed by an offer, then that will be enough incentive for him.

Time will tell, but I hope he gets a move ASAP.

He's already set for life. He's probably on atleast 40k a week at Villa at the minute. That's £2 million a year before bonuses.

[jacomo]

McGinn will go where the money takes him. For all that he's a decent loyal player etc, etc..... He's not going to turn down a move to a top club, one where he plays at the highest level, sets himself up for life and has the chance of winning a trophy.

If Villa are swayed by an offer, then that will be enough incentive for him.

Time will tell, but I hope he gets a move ASAP.


He’s already at a top club playing in the richest domestic league in the world.

[The Modfather]

Arsenal should sign him. Although not sure they could afford him and from a footballing perspective it’s probably a sideways move. I think he’d be an upgrade on Xhaka though and make Arsenal more than the sum of their parts.

[easty]

He’s already at a top club playing in the richest domestic league in the world.

Villa are not a top club

[LeithMike]

SJM is definitely good enough to play for any of the top English teams as a box to box midfielder - which is getting to be a rare commodity in the game.

Injuries permitting, at 26, he's still young enough to have another 4-5 years at the peak of his skillset. Given his game is based so much on physicality, I would expect his ability to diminish after getting into his early thirties and he'll probably have to look at reinventing himself as a defensive midfielder (much like Scott Brown) but I'm not sure he will excel in that role.

On that basis, if he's going to move to one of the top 4 it will probably have to be this summer. Aston Villa though look to have plenty cash though and may not be willing to sell.

Regardless of whether he moves or not here's hoping he's going to have a great few years.

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[jacomo]

Villa are not a top club


Ok no need to go all Old Firm supporter on us.

[superfurryhibby]

He’s already at a top club playing in the richest domestic league in the world.

Yes, they are doing as you say, but surely a top club, in terms of the league he's already playing in, is one that makes it to the Champions League and (sometimes) wins domestic trophies?

For me Villa are a club with a fine tradition but they've been missing top flight football for many years and are best described now as a club seeking to consolidate themselves in their league? Not sure they have even played in Europe this century?

If McGinn gets a move to a Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea or Man City, then he'll be operating at a different level in terms of money and Champions League opportunity?

[Since452]

He'd be the closest thing to Roy Keane that Man United have had since Roy Keane. Oli must have seen that first hand at the weekend.

[superfurryhibby]

He's already set for life. He's probably on atleast 40k a week at Villa at the minute. That's £2 million a year before bonuses.

Yes, and a future transfer will take that a level further.

[easty]

Ok no need to go all Old Firm supporter on us.

It’s “Old Firm Supporter” like to point out that Villa aren’t a top club?

How? Why?

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

Villa are not a top club

In the Premier League as played in England, I would say that any side in the top flight, is a top club.

[easty]

In the Premier League as played in England, I would say that any side in the top flight, is a top club.

Fair enough.

I disagree. I would call them a top flight club, but they’re not comparable to the top teams, the Manchester teams or Chelsea or Liverpool. They’re not even a Spurs or Arsenal.

[gbhibby]

In the Premier League as played in England, I would say that any side in the top flight, is a top club.
Does that include Arsenal? 😁😁

[Since90+2]

Villa are a top club. Man Utd, Liverpool ect are elite level clubs.

[easty]

I’m not trying to create any debate around what a top club is, so if it’s offended anyone, I take it back. Villa can be a top club if they want.

I don’t really care.

[NORTHERNHIBBY]

I’m not trying to create any debate around what a top club is, so if it’s offended anyone, I take it back. Villa can be a top club if they want.

I don’t really care.

These are the types of discussions that we have after we have won so we hopefully can look forwards to loads more 🙂🙂

[Highwayman]

John McGinn is a top quality player and none of the lukewarm remarks about him on this thread will change my opinion about him.

The thing I find odd is that he is the only player from the 2016 cup winning team that has really enhanced his career.

Others such as McGeouch,Fyvie and Cummings have not really made the progress in their careers as might have been expected.Whilst Stokes has disappeared altogether.

I know Henderson is playing in Italy but giving the progress I expected him to make,I thought he would have been a full Scotland International. by now.

[jacomo]

It’s “Old Firm Supporter” like to point out that Villa aren’t a top club?

How? Why?


Because in almost all the ways that matter, Villa are a top club.

EDIT: just seen your previous reply and agree, it’s pointless arguing about such things. But those Hibs fans expecting a big sell on fee when McGinn moves onto the ‘next level’ might need to accept there isn’t much further for him to go. Villa are historically one of England’s big clubs with a large fan base, are now established back in the top flight, seem to be well run and have wealthy backers. McGinn seems a sensible lad. He might well look at all that and think ‘why move?’

[cameronw-hfc]

John looks to be back at it after an incredibly disappointing last season, he's also next to a bit more mobility around the park as a whole and he's really shining now. Has to keep it up though, is yet to have a full great season in the Prem

[superfurryhibby]

Because in almost all the ways that matter, Villa are a top club.

EDIT: just seen your previous reply and agree, it’s pointless arguing about such things. But those Hibs fans expecting a big sell on fee when McGinn moves onto the ‘next level’ might need to accept there isn’t much further for him to go. Villa are historically one of England’s big clubs with a large fan base, are now established back in the top flight, seem to be well run and have wealthy backers. McGinn seems a sensible lad. He might well look at all that and think ‘why move?’

Aside from the financial considerations, which I think would incentivise 99% of players, maybe McGinn fancies winning more trophies or playing in the Champions League? I don't think Villa are very likely to deliver either.

I suppose Villa he could become unwanted at Villa too. These things happen in football all the time.

It is more debateable whether he has the talent to play for a Man U, Liverpool etc, etc. I'd be very surprised if he was ever offered that kind of move myself, but it would be huge for HIbs finances if he moves on.

[MWHIBBIES]

Arsenal should sign him. Although not sure they could afford him and from a footballing perspective it’s probably a sideways move. I think he’d be an upgrade on Xhaka though and make Arsenal more than the sum of their parts.

Arsenal is a good step up from Villa. And they spent huge amounts in the summer. Not really the type they've been signing either, though. Do agree he'd do well there.

[Shrekko]

John looks to be back at it after an incredibly disappointing last season, he's also next to a bit more mobility around the park as a whole and he's really shining now. Has to keep it up though, is yet to have a full great season in the Prem

I think 'incredibly disappointing' is over egging it just a tad! He had a quieter spell when getting back up to speed after an injury but was still a 1st pick literally every single week he was available. I know a few Villa fans were starting to question him at points but I always feel the manager knows a bit more than them. He definitely had more than a few great performances last season- Chelsea away when he totally outshone ****e was one. During his time in the EPL he's been an above average performer most of the time, regardless of whether he's had a full great season or not- that makes him worth the figures people have talked about. Whether he does ever move is 50/50 I think and that's because Villa, who are rich, won't want to sell.... which kind of speaks volumes.

[HoboHarry]

I think 'incredibly disappointing' is over egging it just a tad! He had a quieter spell when getting back up to speed after an injury but was still a 1st pick literally every single week he was available. I know a few Villa fans were starting to question him at points but I always feel the manager knows a bit more than them. He definitely had more than a few great performances last season- Chelsea away when he totally outshone ****e was one. During his time in the EPL he's been an above average performer most of the time, regardless of whether he's had a full great season or not- that makes him worth the figures people have talked about. Whether he does ever move is 50/50 I think and that's because Villa, who are rich, won't want to sell.... which kind of speaks volumes.
It could also be the case that McGinn's agent had a financial release clause when he signed the new contract. I don't know obviously but his agent surely had that in mind.....

[Since452]

Because in almost all the ways that matter, Villa are a top club.

EDIT: just seen your previous reply and agree, it’s pointless arguing about such things. But those Hibs fans expecting a big sell on fee when McGinn moves onto the ‘next level’ might need to accept there isn’t much further for him to go. Villa are historically one of England’s big clubs with a large fan base, are now established back in the top flight, seem to be well run and have wealthy backers. McGinn seems a sensible lad. He might well look at all that and think ‘why move?’

They aren't a top club. Big club historically but they aren't a Man United, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.

[Shrekko]

It could also be the case that McGinn's agent had a financial release clause when he signed the new contract. I don't know obviously but his agent surely had that in mind.....

Yeah they do seem to be quite common.

[jacomo]

They aren't a top club. Big club historically but they aren't a Man United, Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.


Chelsea, you’re having a laugh.

They’d be nowhere without stolen oligarch riches.

[Since90+2]

Chelsea, you’re having a laugh.

They’d be nowhere without stolen oligarch riches.

Chelsea are a massive club these days. People might not like it, myself included, but they have won the Champions League twice in 10 years along with numerous Premier League titles.

They are a very very big club. They might not have got their without Russian money, but it's like that old saying about aunties and baws.

[Allant1981]

Chelsea, you’re having a laugh.

They’d be nowhere without stolen oligarch riches.

Chelsea are one of the biggest clubs in europe, not sure how thats even up for debate

[mjhibby]

Aside from the financial considerations, which I think would incentivise 99% of players, maybe McGinn fancies winning more trophies or playing in the Champions League? I don't think Villa are very likely to deliver either.

I suppose Villa he could become unwanted at Villa too. These things happen in football all the time.

It is more debateable whether he has the talent to play for a Man U, Liverpool etc, etc. I'd be very surprised if he was ever offered that kind of move myself, but it would be huge for HIbs finances if he moves on.

Andy Robertson is good enough for Liverpool so I don't see any reason why not. Sjm would have world class players around him so could express himself more and get 10 goals a season. Arsenal would be a perfect and I can see him going there for around £50m. Whether villa will sell is another matter. I doubt he'll move in January but if he has a stellar season then next summer could be interesting. Obviously from a hibs point of view it would be great if we could get a few million windfall but I'll leave it to Sjm to decide what's best for him.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

Andy Robertson is good enough for Liverpool so I don't see any reason why not. Sjm would have world class players around him so could express himself more and get 10 goals a season. Arsenal would be a perfect and I can see him going there for around £50m. Whether villa will sell is another matter. I doubt he'll move in January but if he has a stellar season then next summer could be interesting. Obviously from a hibs point of view it would be great if we could get a few million windfall but I'll leave it to Sjm to decide what's best for him.

Not because I have aa particular dislike of ArsenL but a small part of me would die if he went there. Were/are On a massive slide. He’s better than that.

[MWHIBBIES]

Not because I have aa particular dislike of ArsenL but a small part of me would die if he went there. Were/are On a massive slide. He’s better than that. Arsenal have a team of fantastic young players, though. Certainly didn't look like a team on a massive slide on Sunday, thats Tottenham. I think Arsenal have gone backwards as far as they're going to go.

[Gmack7]

I hope he was watching Grealish (**** last night)up against some of the best players on the planet and fancy some of the same

[JimBHibees]

Arsenal have a team of fantastic young players, though. Certainly didn't look like a team on a massive slide on Sunday, thats Tottenham. I think Arsenal have gone backwards as far as they're going to go.

That is surely still to be proven though I think Saka and Smith Rowe are excellent

[Iain G]

Aside from the financial considerations, which I think would incentivise 99% of players, maybe McGinn fancies winning more trophies or playing in the Champions League? I don't think Villa are very likely to deliver either.

I suppose Villa he could become unwanted at Villa too. These things happen in football all the time.

It is more debateable whether he has the talent to play for a Man U, Liverpool etc, etc. I'd be very surprised if he was ever offered that kind of move myself, but it would be huge for HIbs finances if he moves on.

He would be a better option than Fred,Van Der Beek or Matic in that average Man Utd midfield and would add a lot of energy into their play.

[MWHIBBIES]

That is surely still to be proven though I think Saka and Smith Rowe are excellent

Odegaard, Gabriel, Tierney, Tomiyasu are all still young as well and great players. Ramsdale and Ben White have looked good in the last few games too. There is a lot of potential there, although they'll not all make it, it's a very talented bunch.

[Keith_M]

What percentage of the transfer fee to we get if he is bought?


It's a long and convoluted explanation as to why but .....


10.5% to Hibs and 4.5% to St Mirren.


e.g. if they sell him for £30M, Hibs get £3.15M

[easty]

Arsenal have a team of fantastic young players, though. Certainly didn't look like a team on a massive slide on Sunday, thats Tottenham. I think Arsenal have gone backwards as far as they're going to go.

Arsenal did look good on Sunday. However, good results haven’t really been the problem for them, it’s consistency that they've struggled with under Arteta. They beat Chelsea twice in the league last season, they beat Man Utd, Leicester and Spurs once too.

They’ve got a good run of very winnable fixtures coming up (Brighton away, Palace at home, Villa at home), good chance for them to kick on.

[Steve20]

John looks to be back at it after an incredibly disappointing last season, he's also next to a bit more mobility around the park as a whole and he's really shining now. Has to keep it up though, is yet to have a full great season in the Prem

He wasn't disappointing last season. He might not have been at the standards he set previous years, but he was excellent those years. He was still fine last season.

But yeah, I get the point that he's back to being the top class player he is.

[easty]

Odegaard, Gabriel, Tierney, Tomiyasu are all still young as well and great players. Ramsdale and Ben White have looked good in the last few games too. There is a lot of potential there, although they'll not all make it, it's a very talented bunch.

Totally agree, looks good on paper.

What’s happened to Martinelli? He was the next big thing, now he’s barely getting minutes at all.

[blackpoolhibs]

Hibs beat Arsenal, let that sink in for a moment, we beat Arsenal. Yes it was a friendly, but that showed you just how far they have dropped in terms of quality.

And remember on Sunday they only beat Tottenham, who are also a shadow of the side they were 3 years ago.

Neither will be anywhere near the top 4, and probably not even top 6, Of course McGinn would improve Arsenal, he would improve Man United's midfield too.

God i hope he moves soon.

[jacomo]

Aside from the financial considerations, which I think would incentivise 99% of players, maybe McGinn fancies winning more trophies or playing in the Champions League? I don't think Villa are very likely to deliver either.

I suppose Villa he could become unwanted at Villa too. These things happen in football all the time.

It is more debateable whether he has the talent to play for a Man U, Liverpool etc, etc. I'd be very surprised if he was ever offered that kind of move myself, but it would be huge for HIbs finances if he moves on.


I think McGinn stands comparison with Henderson or McTominay. I think Klopp would appreciate his qualities… even the very elite teams need grafters and energy. It’s not all about the rabonas.

[MWHIBBIES]

Totally agree, looks good on paper.

What’s happened to Martinelli? He was the next big thing, now he’s barely getting minutes at all.

Injuries I think. Missed a chunk of last season. Not being in Europe definitely hurts his minutes this season.

[MWHIBBIES]

Hibs beat Arsenal, let that sink in for a moment, we beat Arsenal. Yes it was a friendly, but that showed you just how far they have dropped in terms of quality.

And remember on Sunday they only beat Tottenham, who are also a shadow of the side they were 3 years ago.

Neither will be anywhere near the top 4, and probably not even top 6, Of course McGinn would improve Arsenal, he would improve Man United's midfield too.

God i hope he moves soon.

Arsenal were just 6 points off top 4 last season tbf, and they're definitely stronger. Top 4 are all better sides, but they should be top 6.

[blackpoolhibs]

Arsenal were just 6 points off top 4 last season tbf, and they're definitely stronger. Top 4 are all better sides, but they should be top 6.

Every team will strengthen each season.

[WeeRussell]

John McGinn could quite conceivably play for any club in the world in my opinion. There aren’t many players out there that play the game he does nearly as well as him. He’s really quite unique.

He’s also now unquestionably Villa’s best midfielder (and Scotland’s for that matter). And playing very well for them.

Who knows what the immediate future holds, but a move to one of the very biggest (or top) clubs is in no way out of the question for me.

[MWHIBBIES]

Every team will strengthen each season.

You just said spurs have declined from 3 years ago? How was that possible if they kept strengthening.

[Kato]

You just said spurs have declined from 3 years ago? How was that possible if they kept strengthening.The other teams have strengthened more?

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[MWHIBBIES]

The other teams have strengthened more?

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Na, spurs just got much worse. Teams don't strengthen every year. That's just not possible

[blackpoolhibs]

You just said spurs have declined from 3 years ago? How was that possible if they kept strengthening.

Most teams will trade players, spend more and speculate.

Some do it better than others.

[Kato]

Na, spurs just got much worse. Teams don't strengthen every year. That's just not possibleAgreed, tongue in cheek there. Spurs no where near as potent as they have been in recent years.

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[007]

SJM on a Question of Sport on Friday. Should add a couple of £m to his value. 😀

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mcginn-bbc-question-of-sport-21713892

[gbhibby]

SJM on a Question of Sport on Friday. Should add a couple of £m to his value. 😀

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mcginn-bbc-question-of-sport-21713892
How many Hibs or ex Hibs players have appeared on that show. George Best, Michael O'Neil Steve Archibald Andy Goram spring to mind.