You have a season ticket, you’re not vaccinated. What are you doing?

[Bob1875]

Well?

[DaveF]

Not going to the game?

[HibbyAndy]

Not going to the football anyway as you won't get in

[FranckSuzy]

Getting your vaccine.

[green day]

Aw Jesus, another one of these threads........

[JXM73]

Only just got over covid (isolation free from today), double jabbed still going to the game...

[Coco Bryce]

Well?

None of your business to be honest.

[WeAreHibs]

None of your business to be honest.

It is if he sits next to someone that shouldn't be there. Being even more honest!

[Coco Bryce]

It is if he sits next to someone that shouldn't be there. Being even more honest!

Nope. Still none of his business.

[jacomo]

Nope. Still none of his business.


Really? You know how airborne infectious diseases work right?

[WeAreHibs]

Nope. Still none of his business.

Stay safe pal!

[LunasBoots]

Is it mandatory to get a trial vaccine?

[Sir David Gray]

Not going to the football anyway as you won't get in

Very good chance that you will get in unfortunately since there's only spot checks being done rather than everyone being checked.

What began as a great idea in principle has turned into a something that will be largely a pointless exercise.

[Lendo]

Get your guesses in. I’m going with a 10 pager

[green day]

Well?

Ok, you've had your fun and hooked a few argumentative types.

Just delete it, eh?

[Coco Bryce]

Really? You know how airborne infectious diseases work right?

Yes. But again. None of his business if someone has had a voluntary vaccine or not.

The person sitting next to him may be vaccinated but could still have Covid. Having a QR on your phone wont make the slightest bit difference.

The topic has been done to death. Delete.

[cabbageandribs1875]

some are still not quite grasping the possibility of passing it on to the vulnerable huh

[Stairway 2 7]

Yes. But again. None of his business if someone has had a voluntary vaccine or not.

The person sitting next to him may be vaccinated but could still have Covid. Having a QR on your phone wont make the slightest bit difference.

On average much smaller viral load in the vaccinated, so it IS his business if the person beside him is vaccinated

[Brummie_Hibs]

As somebody who has had covid, I (based on recent studies) probably have longer lasting antibodies (3+ years) than those who have been vaccinated (6-9 months).

My chance of spreading it is probably less as well.

But hey, we stopped 'following the science' a long time ago...

[Stairway 2 7]

As somebody who has had covid, I (based on recent studies) probably have longer lasting antibodies (3+ years) than those who have been vaccinated (6-9 months).

My chance of spreading it is probably less as well.

But hey, we stopped 'following the science' a long time ago...

Read this article it will show why it would make a huge difference if everyone was vaccinated at Easter Road

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/the-vaccinated-arent-just-as-likely-to-spread-covid/620161/

No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People

[tamig]

As somebody who has had covid, I (based on recent studies) probably have longer lasting antibodies (3+ years) than those who have been vaccinated (6-9 months).

My chance of spreading it is probably less as well.

But hey, we stopped 'following the science' a long time ago...
Have you had the vaccine?

[Bob1875]

It’s a genuine question, not a wind up. There’s a good chance you’ll get in. I was only gauging opinion as I now have a season ticket that I’m not meant to use.

[Coco Bryce]

On average much smaller viral load in the vaccinated, so it IS his business if the person beside him is vaccinated

Nope. It 100% isn't. I have had Covid and I am double vaccinated but nobody has any right to know any medical information about me. Its called data protection.

[Bob1875]

Ok, you've had your fun and hooked a few argumentative types.

Just delete it, eh?

Eh?

[Since452]

Crying?

[Bob1875]

Yes. But again. None of his business if someone has had a voluntary vaccine or not.

The person sitting next to him may be vaccinated but could still have Covid. Having a QR on your phone wont make the slightest bit difference.

The topic has been done to death. Delete.

I wasn’t wanting a discussion on vaccines, was wondering if people will still ‘chance it’ which many will.

[green day]

Eh?

Or put it in the holy ground.

You absolutely must have known it would descend into vax / ant Vax pish.

[Eyrie]

Hopefully sitting at home, polishing their tin foil hat.

Last year I had my freedom curtailed because I was shielding. This year I've been vaccinated and don't see why I should have to worry about being in crowds because of some selfish idiot that wants to believe a rumour on Facebook instead of proven science. It's their choice not to get vaccinated, so it's their turn to miss out even if it is only something non-essential like a football game.

[Bob1875]

Hopefully sitting at home, polishing their tin foil hat.

Last year I had my freedom curtailed because I was shielding. This year I've been vaccinated and don't see why I should have to worry about being in crowds because of some selfish idiot that wants to believe a rumour on Facebook instead of proven science. It's their choice not to get vaccinated, so it's their turn to miss out even if it is only something non-essential like a football game.

Why worry? You’re vaccinated.

[Andy74]

We don’t have to keep giving idiots airtime on this do we?

[Coco Bryce]

I wasn’t wanting a discussion on vaccines, was wondering if people will still ‘chance it’ which many will.

It's football fans. There will be loads of younger people who are not vaccinated and really won't give as **** about that fact either.

[J-C]

Another yes it is v no it isn't pish argument, always the same posters, gets very very boring after a while.

[JimBHibees]

Getting your vaccine.

Yep not that difficult to be honest. No reason not to unless you have a medical reason not to.

[Stairway 2 7]

Why worry? You’re vaccinated.

It's boring like groundhog day. It stops 97% of hospitalisations which is amazing but not 100%.

92% of adults got vaccinated but the 8% seem to bleat over 50% of the vaccine comments

[tamig]

I wasn’t wanting a discussion on vaccines, was wondering if people will still ‘chance it’ which many will.

If you’re using a borrowed ST and are going to “chance it” if you don’t have the QR code, just stay away.

[JimBHibees]

Nope. It 100% isn't. I have had Covid and I am double vaccinated but nobody has any right to know any medical information about me. Its called data protection.

That's true however also a personal responsibility on people to consider others.

[tamig]

Nope. It 100% isn't. I have had Covid and I am double vaccinated but nobody has any right to know any medical information about me. Its called data protection.

If a steward asks you to display your QR code in a random check will you refuse on the grounds of your DP argument?

[J-C]

That's true however also a personal responsibility on people to consider others.


Jim what we have in this world nowadays is a small minority of the population who don't give a **** about anyone else apart from them, they bleat on about liberties being taken away, used as guinea pigs for an untested vaccine, spread lies and untruths on the web about the vaccine and the virus, blame everyone from scientists to whatever government that runs their country. It's now getting very tiresome.

[Pretty Boy]

If a steward asks you to display your QR code in a random check will you refuse on the grounds of your DP argument?

I'm going to tell them I am a freeman of the land and cite Magna Carta.

[Coco Bryce]

That's true however also a personal responsibility on people to consider others.

Yes, and people also have to respect other peoples decision not to have a voluntary vaccination, whether they agree with it or not. It's just the way it is unfortunately . As I said, I am double vaccinated but I would have no problem whatsoever sitting next to someone that hasn't had it.

[Andy74]

Nope. It 100% isn't. I have had Covid and I am double vaccinated but nobody has any right to know any medical information about me. Its called data protection.

You don’t understand Data Protection.

[HH81]

Anyone on a spot check where they can't prove vaccine should have season ticket cancelled?

[Stairway 2 7]

Anyone on a spot check where they can't prove vaccine should have season ticket cancelled?

Defo as long as its made clear first. We are very fortunate to have full stadiums after the last horrible year

[Coco Bryce]

If a steward asks you to display your QR code in a random check will you refuse on the grounds of your DP argument?

What are you on about? Have you actually read this thread? The argument was whether you know if the person next to you had been vaccinated or not.

[tamig]

I'm going to tell them I am a freeman of the land and cite Magna Carta.

Not applicable northwards of Hadrians Wall I believe 😀

[Coco Bryce]

Anyone on a spot check where they can't prove vaccine should have season ticket cancelled?

Have a word 😂😂

[Bob1875]

Have a word 😂😂

Madness ain’t it

[Brummie_Hibs]

Read this article it will show why it would make a huge difference if everyone was vaccinated at Easter Road

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/09/the-vaccinated-arent-just-as-likely-to-spread-covid/620161/

No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
My point wasn't a vaccinated versus unvaccinated one.

It was vaccinated versus antibodies gained from previously having covid.

There is very little debate about this in the MSM.

[GordonHFC]

There will be no data protection issues because Hibs will neither be storing your information or using it.

[tamig]

What are you on about? Have you actually read this thread? The argument was whether you know if the person next to you had been vaccinated or not.

You were the one banging on about not disclosing medical details. Does proof if vaccination not count as that in your book? Aye, I’ve read the thread. You try reading what others are saying.

[J-C]

There will be no data protection issues because Hibs will neither be storing your information or using it.


This.

A quick look at the code on your phone to see if your double vaxxed and a check with the season ticket to prove you are the same person. No double vax, no entry.

[HH81]

Have a word 😂😂

What should happen then? Be allowed in the ground?

[Brummie_Hibs]

Have you had the vaccine?
With all due respect, I don't need to tell you that, as you are not a doorman and I'm not trying to get into a nightclub or a 10,000 outdoor event.

[Coco Bryce]

There will be no data protection issues because Hibs will neither be storing your information or using it.

I'm genuinely interested how this is gonna work. Are the stewards just going to look at a QR code on your phone (which could actually be for anything?) or are they going to scan it? As if it's the latter they will have your details/info getting stored somewhere no?

[Coco Bryce]

What should happen then? Be allowed in the ground?

Maybe turn them away in the knowledge they really should go and get the vaccine.

Canceling their season ticket though?

[Stairway 2 7]

My point wasn't a vaccinated versus unvaccinated one.

It was vaccinated versus antibodies gained from previously having covid.

There is very little debate about this in the MSM.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/09/05/36-of-those-who-had-covid-19-didnt-develop-antibodies-study-says/

36% of people who have previously had covid don't produce antibodies

[J-C]

I'm genuinely interested how this is gonna work. Are the stewards just going to look at a QR code on your phone (which could actually be for anything?) or are they going to scan it? As if it's the latter they will have your details/info getting stored somewhere no?


Next to the QR code is your name and address with the dates of each vaccination, that's all the stewards need, they may check them with the name on the season ticket as is their right. I was at a gig on Monday at O2 Newcastle and the stewards just checked our phone for the info and got a band on our wrists, took 1 min per person, no details or private info given. Far too many people worrying over giving out info that the stewards couldn't give a **** about.

[tamig]

With all due respect, I don't need to tell you that, as you are not a doorman and I'm not trying to get into a nightclub or a 10,000 outdoor event.

Fair enough. I just read your post as trying to justify if you’ve had the virus you should be treated in a similar way to a vaccinated individual. Having the vaccine has been proven to significantly reduce the likelihood of transmission. Apologies if that wasn’t your intention.

[Coco Bryce]

You were the one banging on about not disclosing medical details. Does proof if vaccination not count as that in your book? Aye, I’ve read the thread. You try reading what others are saying.

You clearly haven't. Proof of vaccination to a steward yes. But having to prove this to some random guy who sits beside you your QR code 😂😂

[SON OF PADDY]

Jim what we have in this world nowadays is a small minority of the population who don't give a **** about anyone else apart from them, they bleat on about liberties being taken away, used as guinea pigs for an untested vaccine, spread lies and untruths on the web about the vaccine and the virus, blame everyone from scientists to whatever government that runs their country. It's now getting very tiresome.


Nail on the head ! 👏👏👏👏

[Coco Bryce]

Next to the QR code is your name and address with the dates of each vaccination, that's all the stewards need, they may check them with the name on the season ticket as is their right. I was at a gig on Monday at O2 Newcastle and the stewards just checked our phone for the info and got a band on our wrists, took 1 min per person, no details or private info given. Far too many people worrying over giving out info that the stewards couldn't give a **** about.

Thanks for that.

[J-C]

You clearly haven't. Proof of vaccination to a steward yes. But having to prove this to some random guy who sits beside your QR code 😂😂

Has anyone implied you have to prove it to someone sitting beside you, the point was raised that people would want to know the people sitting beside them were vaccinated and not some chancer looking to get to the game who could spread the virus. If the they've shown their vaccine status to a steward then that's all that needs to be done.

[Coco Bryce]

Has anyone implied you have to prove it to someone sitting beside you, the point was raised that people would want to know the people sitting beside them were vaccinated and not some chancer looking to get to the game who could spread the virus. If the they've shown their vaccine status to a steward then that's all that needs to be done.

Someone further up the thread said it was their business to know if someone sitting next to them was vaccinated or not. I think the argument was people getting in who weren't.

[flash]

Maybe turn them away in the knowledge they really should go and get the vaccine.

Canceling their season ticket though?

I wouldn't cancel it but I would suspend it until either they get vaccinated or the rules change.

[Andy74]

Someone further up the thread said it was their business to know if someone sitting next to them was vaccinated or not. I think the argument was people getting in who weren't.

Well yeah, it is. People attending these events are entitled to expect that everyone there has been double vaccinated.

[J-C]

Someone further up the thread said it was their business to know if someone sitting next to them was vaccinated or not.


I think they meant they wanted to be secure in the knowledge that everyone at the game had been vaccinated and not someone blagging it with someone else's ticket to the game, what was the point of the OP if he already new the answer, it looked like he was asking if he would get in without the proof of vaccine.

[SON OF PADDY]

This.

A quick look at the code on your phone to see if your double vaxxed and a check with the season ticket to prove you are the same person. No double vax, no entry.


Correct decision ! 👋👋

[tamig]

You clearly haven't. Proof of vaccination to a steward yes. But having to prove this to some random guy who sits beside you your QR code 😂😂

Oh right. Here were your words - “ nobody has any right to know any medical information about me. Its called data protection.”

Except the steward obviously.

[Zambernardi1875]

Will double vaccinated fans who have been going to the games now not go in October because there worried of catching it? No masks or checks up till now so what’s the big deal

[HH81]

Maybe turn them away in the knowledge they really should go and get the vaccine.

Canceling their season ticket though?

Might just make people get it now as they don't want to risk losing their season ticket.

[Danderhall Hibs]

To answer the question a bit more directly - is the answer dying?

[Stairway 2 7]

Will double vaccinated fans who have been going to the games now not go in October because there worried of catching it? No masks or checks up till now so what’s the big deal

Like John snow says, winter is coming

[Andy74]

Will double vaccinated fans who have been going to the games now not go in October because there worried of catching it? No masks or checks up till now so what’s the big deal

Why would they have to not go? They should be able to have even more comfort that everyone attending has been double vaccinated.

[jgl07]

It is if he sits next to someone that shouldn't be there. Being even more honest!
Vaccination does not prevent you from contracting COVID nor does it prevent you from passing it on. It makes the symptoms far less severe and virtually eliminates fatalities.

[Zambernardi1875]

Why would they have to not go? They should be able to have even more comfort that everyone attending has been double vaccinated.

Exactly nothing to worry about ,chill out enjoy the game no need for daft vaccine checks

[Andy74]

Vaccination does not prevent you from contracting COVID nor does it prevent you from passing it on. It makes the symptoms far less severe and virtually eliminates fatalities.

Why does this nonsense keep getting repeated on here? It is wrong.

It is not 100% effective but that isn't what people like you are saying - you are saying it doesn't stop you getting it or passing it on at all. That's rubbish.

[Stairway 2 7]

Vaccination does not prevent you from contracting COVID nor does it prevent you from passing it on. It makes the symptoms far less severe and virtually eliminates fatalities.

It massively reduces the chances

[HNA2]

Closing this as its turned into an extension of the other covid/vaccinations threads.